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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN REP DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF FORMER GOV MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS SEN JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ REP TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV TOMMY G THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV JAMES S GILMORE III, R-VA FORMER GOV MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that So lots of Americans do that HUNTER: But here's what happens Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health They then recover their money in the United States And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions Otherwise, they would Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey The states lock up the insurance industry They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else If we're able to do that BLITZER: Thank you HUNTER: we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmurgathercom blogger, who is Joshua Williamson Joshua asks, Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and US employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the US population? Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates We never had one question on health care Thank that person for talking about health care Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care That's 16 percent of the gross national product Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity You do that, you'll be able to change health care The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher And I talked to small-business people, and they said, I can't afford the policies anymore And we said, You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess Washington is all talk And we said, We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover ROMNEY: And that's what we did It relies on personal responsibility This is a big issue for this country Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase We have to stand up and not just talk about it I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue We get all of our citizens insured We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance We have to stand up and say, The market works Personal responsibility works We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable They never have to worry about losing it That's the answer Thank you BLITZER: Thank you, Governor (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf Next question comes from you, sir Your name is Max Latona QUESTION: Yes, it is VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions So I'm happy to get those (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle BLITZER: Thank you, Governor (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct I would put it in maybe a slightly different way We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago We're friends now BLITZER: All right GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago They're some of our best friends today We have great resources in this country And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war I do not believe that's part of the American tradition We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well BROWNBACK: Thank you And thank you for the question from a philosopher I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with I have great respect for the mayor I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party But our party has stood on principles It's a party of principles It's not a party of personalities We lose when we walk away from our principles BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble And that's the country wants us to do BLITZER: Thank you, Senator BROWNBACK: is to stand for principles (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano Neil, you are an airline agent QUESTION: Yes, I am VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire You have a question tonight for Governor Romney QUESTION: Yes, I do First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant I love immigrants I love legal immigrants coming to our country I'm happy to communicate to them And I hope they vote for me ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents They do not get a special pathway That's a mistake That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill That's a mistake in my view Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that But we have extraordinary opportunities What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America Now, Asia has come out of poverty A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty They're consumers We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids Thank you BLITZER: Thank you, Governor Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country TANCREDO: Right Yes, exactly No, I would not advertise in Spanish Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages No, it is absolutely wrong English is the language of this country And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that It's a good thing And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories It doesn't matter We need that thing to hold us together BLITZER: All right Thank you, Congressman (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders There is indeed a special path It's especially hard It's eight to 13 years My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country We have to stop the illegal immigration But we've had waves throughout our history Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, DC, to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children They must come into our country legally But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them MCCAIN: Thank you BLITZER: Thank you (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir QUESTION: Good evening VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008 VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking We let spending get out of control We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted We've got to stop the earmarking The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost Republicans became Democrats I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Go ahead, Governor ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America We have to once again take people forward And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century Our products and services can lead the world BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us We didn't come up with new ideas We got to transform health care We got to wind down the war in Iraq We got to make sure that we really are conservatives If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base It's well founded We have to do something about that BLITZER: Thank you Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune PAUL: And now we are fighting a war And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question Principle is the difference The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it Let me say this Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words HUNTER: He said, Families lift our nation up They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family Then we'll be a great party again BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them BLITZER: Thank you HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do BLITZER: Thank you Let's go back to Jennifer VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire QUESTION: Yes, I do VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome If you come here legally, welcome It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came But let's be serious about this, you guys We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the US should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No I'm very uncomfortable with it I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration It's a very complex subject I think we've had a very good debate about it And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? The person who believes in that the most is the best American And the person who doesn't isn't an American BLITZER: Thank you GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words We should always be open to legal immigration It reforms us It makes us better It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves BLITZER: Thank you GIULIANI: and their families If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking Look, America is a land of opportunity The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights That means we go as far as our ambition will take us That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream Of course it has to be legal Of course that it has to be regulated MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill BLITZER: Thank you MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences BLITZER: Thank you, Senator (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer Go ahead, Jennifer VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight You're a state legislator What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you GILMORE: Glad to When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people It stands for everyone It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people We're going to talk about giving back more tax money We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages And you earned this money We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer BLITZER: Thank you, Governor Hold on one second BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right I've got to let all three of them respond Governor Romney, go ahead first But do it very briefly ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan He did it Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home BLITZER: Thanks, Governor ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values BLITZER: Thank you ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism And you saw that two nights ago here They couldn't even utter the words Islamic terrorism It's our biggest enemy They couldn't utter it We need somebody who can stand up to that And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine BLITZER: Thank you GIULIANI: put everything in government Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party BLITZER: Thank you GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier Protect our American family It's under assault in many respects, as we all know And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism It is a force of evil that is within our shores Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here We can win We will never surrender They will I am prepared to lead My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon But we will prevail BLITZER: Thank you, Senator (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate It bring the end of our debate here Please be sure to join us for our next debate That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google You're going to want to see this Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well 20:27:40 DRUGS WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS OTHERWISE THEY COULD 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHERCOM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND US EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE US POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50% AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR YOUR NAME IS MAX 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST ANSELM COLLEGE 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO WE'RE FRIENDS NOW 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY >> THANK YOU 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD >> THANK YOU, MAYOR 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL >> THANK YOU 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION I'M A PHILOSOPHER 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT >> YES, I AM 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH 20:39:46 >> YES LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT I LOVE IMMIGRANTS 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY THAT'S A MISTAKE 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY ENERGY 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM >> THANK YOU 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 DC, TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM 20:44:00 THANK YOU >> THANK YOU 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR >> GOOD EVENING 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE WITH 233 MILES 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS THE DEMOCRATS 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT >> THANK YOU 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR >> YOU CAN THANK YOU 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY >> THANK YOU 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES >> THANK YOU 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT 20:50:25 WELCOME IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE US SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US IT MAKES US BETTER 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE >> THANK YOU 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU >> GREAT QUESTION 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA AND I REJECTED THAT 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON AS A TAXPAYER 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU THANK YOU, GOVERNOR 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN HE DID IT 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME STRONG MILITARY 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE >> THANK YOU 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT DIX THE LONDON SUICIDE