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[FOX NEWS: BILL O'REILLY INTERVIEWS HILLARY CLINTON PART 1] [NEW YORK, NY USA] Bill O'Reilly interview with Senator Hillary Clinton 20:00:17 BILL: "THE O'REILLY FACTOR" IS 20:00:22 ON. >> DO YOU BELIEVE THIS REVEREND 20:00:24 WRIGHT GUY? WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEAR 20:00:26 FELLOW AMERICANS SAY THAT STUFF ABOUT AMERICA? 20:00:29 SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON MAKES HER FIRST APPEARANCE IN THE NO- 20:00:34 SPIN ZONE. I WILL TALK TO HER ABOUT THE 20:00:36 CAMPAIGN. YOUR HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT FOR 20:00:40 EIGHT YEARS AND DIDN'T DO BUTTKUS. 20:00:43 AND WHY SHE WILL NOT CRACK DOWN ON THE SANCTUARY CITIES. 20:00:47 A WORLD EXCLUSIVE, HILLARY CLINTON AND ME. 20:00:48 >> I'M RUNNING FOR THE TOUGHEST JOB IN THE WORLD. 20:00:51 BILL: AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE DICK MORRIS AND DENNIS MILLER 20:00:55 REACT TO THE CONVERSATION. ALSO, THE FAR LEFT BLOGS ARE 20:00:58 GOING NUTS OVER THIS CHAT. MATARY -- MARY KATHERINE HAM ON 20:01:03 THAT. CAUTION, YOU ARE ABOUT TO ENTER 20:01:05 THE NO-SPIN ZONE. "THE FACTOR" BEGINS RIGHT NOW. 20:01:09 NOAH CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE 20:01:11 --WWW.NCICAP.ORG-- BILL: I'M BILL O'REILLY. 20:01:22 THANK YOU FOR WATCHING US TONIGHT. 20:01:24 HILLARY CLINTON ENTERS THE NO-SPIN ZONE. 20:01:25 THAT WOULD BE THE SUBJECT OF THIS EVENING'S TALKING POINTS 20:01:27 MEMO IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A TALKING POINTS MEMO BUT WE'RE 20:01:31 NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH GOOD STUFF WITH THE SENATOR. 20:01:33 HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED. EARLIER THIS WEEK WE GOT A CALL 20:01:36 THAT SENATOR CLINTON WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN SOUTH BEND, 20:01:38 INDIANA, THIS MORNING. SO WE FLEW OUT LAST NIGHT. 20:01:41 WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR WITH HER IN THE A.M. 20:01:43 THE INTERVIEW WILL BE IN FOUR PARTS OVER TWO DAYS. 20:01:46 TOMORROW WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THE WAR ON 20:01:49 TERROR, AND FOREIGN POLICY. TONIGHT WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT'S 20:01:52 HAPPENING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW AND THE CAMPAIGN. 20:01:55 ROLL THE TAPE. SENATOR, FIRST OF ALL, THANK 20:01:59 YOU FOR TALKING TO US. >> I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU, 20:02:02 BILL. BILL: ARE YOU REALLY? 20:02:04 SO FEW PEOPLE ARE. >> I ENDED UP THINKING I HAD TO 20:02:09 TRY TO HELP YOU OUT HERE. BILL: I NEEDED ALL THE HELP I 20:02:13 COULD GET. ALSO WE'RE IN THE LAND OF THE 20:02:16 FIGHTING IRISH. WE HAVE THE THING GOING ON. 20:02:18 CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS REVEREND WRIGHT GUY? CAN YOU BELIEVE 20:02:21 THIS GUY? WHAT DO YOU THINK? 20:02:22 >> WELL, I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE VOTERS TO DECIDE. 20:02:25 BILL: WHAT DO YOU THINK AS AN AMERICAN? 20:02:27 >> WHAT I SAID WHEN I WAS ASKED DIRECTLY IS I WOULD NOT HAVE 20:02:31 STAYED IN THAT CHURCH. BILL: NO, BUT YOU'RE AN 20:02:33 AMERICAN CITIZEN, I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, HE'S AN 20:02:36 AMERICAN CITIZEN. WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEAR 20:02:39 FELLOW AMERICAN CITIZENS SAY THAT STUFF ABOUT AMERICA? 20:02:41 WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I TAKE OFFENSE AT IT. 20:02:45 I THINK IT'S OFFENSIVE AND OUTRAGEOUS. 20:02:48 I WILL EXPRESS MY OPINION, OTHERS CAN EXPRESS THEIRS. 20:02:51 IT IS PART OF JUST AN ATMOSPHERE THAT WE'RE IN TODAY 20:02:53 WHERE ALL KINDS OF THINGS ARE BEING SAID AND PEOPLE HAVE TO 20:02:57 DECIDE WHAT THEY BELIEVE. I SURE DON'T BELIEVE THE UNITED 20:03:00 STATES GOVERNMENT WAS BEHIND AIDS. 20:03:03 BILL: WHEN I SEE PEOPLE JUMPING UP AND APPLAUDING WHEN HE SAYS 20:03:07 THAT, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE MORAL EQUIVALENT OF AL QAEDA, 20:03:10 WHEN I SEE MY FELLOW CITIZENS, I DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY 20:03:14 ARE JUMP UP AND APPLAUD THAT, THAT DISTURBS ME. 20:03:16 >> BILL, THIS IS PART OF THE MOSAIC AND DIVERSITY OF 20:03:20 AMERICA. OBVIOUSLY ON OPINIONS LIKE THAT 20:03:22 -- I HELP TO THINK IT IS JUST TOTALLY OFF BASE. 20:03:25 IT IS SO FAR OUT IT'S HARD TO EVEN UNDERSTAND AND TAKE 20:03:28 SERIOUSLY. BUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO 20:03:32 ME ABOUT IS NOT THAT. I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHAT I HEAR 20:03:34 IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR LIVES. 20:03:37 LET SOMEBODY ELSE WORRY ABOUT TAKING ON WHATEVER SOMEONE 20:03:39 SAID. BILL: BUT TRUST ME ON THIS. 20:03:43 POLITICIAN RATINGS, REVEREND WRIGHT, THROUGH THE ROOF. 20:03:47 >> FOLKS ARE MAKING UP THEIR MINDS, WEIGHING IT, TRYING TO 20:03:50 FIGURE IT OUT. I THINK FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL 20:03:52 CAMPAIGN, THEY WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO 20:03:56 ABOUT TAX PRICES TO BE BLUNT. BILL: I FEEL SORRY FOR BARACK 20:03:59 OBAMA ON THIS ONE. I FEEL SORRY FOR HIM. 20:04:02 HIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN DERAILED BY SOME LOONEY GUY. 20:04:05 ISN'T THAT AMAZING? >> WELL, HE SPOKE OUT 20:04:08 FORCEFULLY YESTERDAY. BILL: DO YOU FEEL SORRY FOR 20:04:11 OBAMA? >> WELL, I THINK HE MADE HIS 20:04:13 VIEWS CLEAR FINALLY, THAT HE DISAGREED. 20:04:15 I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE HAD TO DO. 20:04:18 BILL: OK. OIL PRICES. 20:04:19 NOW, YOU WANTED TO SUSPEND THE FEDERAL GAS TAX. 20:04:24 SO DOES JOHN MCCAIN. WHICH I HEAR THAT, I SAY SAME 20:04:27 OLD POLITICIAN STUFF, BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS 20:04:30 OPPOSED, IS OPPOSED TO ANWAR DRILLING. 20:04:32 YOU VOTED AGAINST NUCLEAR ENERGY SEVEN TIMES. 20:04:39 I'M SAYING TO MYSELF BOTH PARTIES HAVE SOLD THE FOLKS OUT 20:04:42 ON ENERGY. NOW THE FOLKS ARE GETTING 20:04:44 HAMMERED AND THEY SHOULD BE ANGRY AT BOTH PARTIES. 20:04:47 >> HERE IS WHAT I THINK. I THINK THERE IS PLENTY OF GAME 20:04:50 TO GO AROUND. BILL: EVEN FOR YOU? 20:04:53 >> FOR ALL OF US. >> BUT FOR CONSUMERS, DRIVERS, 20:04:58 POLITICAL OFFICIALS, THE OIL COMPANIES, YOU NAME IT. 20:05:01 WE'RE NOT ACTING LIKE AMERICANS, BILL. 20:05:03 WE'RE NOT IN CHARGE. I WANT TO PUT US BACK IN 20:05:05 CHARGE. BILL: THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR 20:05:08 VOTING ON DRILLING AND NUKES? >> HERE IS WHAT I'M GOING TO 20:05:11 DO. IN THE SHORT TERM, I DO WANT A 20:05:13 GAS TAX STOP. BILL: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 20:05:20 >> THE OIL COMPANIES HAVE MADE OUT LIKE BANDITS. 20:05:23 THERE IS NO BASIS FOR THEM TO HAVE THESE HUGE PROFITS. 20:05:26 THEY ARE NOT INVENTING ANYTHING NEW. 20:05:29 BILL: THEY TAKE 20% OF THEIR PROFITS AWAY FROM THEM? >> YOU 20:05:32 SET A BASE LINE. ABOVE THAT BASE LINE YOU BEGIN 20:05:35 TO TAX THEIR PROFITS. CONGRESS HAS TO SAY YES. 20:05:38 THAT'S AN UPHILL CLIMB. I'M TRYING TO LAY THE 20:05:41 GROUNDWORK SO WHEN I'M PRESIDENT WE CAN GET IN THERE 20:05:44 AND SAY THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TOO LONG. 20:05:47 WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE ON OPEC. IT'S A CARTEL, A MONOPOLY. 20:05:51 BILL: YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM ON? THEY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY. 20:05:55 >> I WOULD FILE COMPLAINTS. I WOULD ALSO CHANGE THE LAW SO 20:06:00 THAT CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES COULD FILE ANTITRUST ACTIONS. 20:06:02 WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. 20:06:05 BILL: IF YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, THEY SAY SLAP 20:06:08 ANOTHER 20 BUCKS ON THE PRICE OF OIL. 20:06:10 >> AT THE SAME TIME WE'LL NOT BE SITTING IDLY BY ACTING LIKE 20:06:13 WE CAN JUST GET AWAY WITH THIS. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE 20:06:17 BEHAVE, THE WAY WE DRIVE. WE HAVE NOT PAID ATTENTION FOR 20:06:20 MORE THAN 35 YEARS. BILL: I'M WITH YOU 100%. 20:06:24 IF YOUR HUSBAND IS PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS AND MR. AL GORE 20:06:28 WAS GLOBAL WARMING VICE PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS. 20:06:30 >> I SAY WE HAVE TO ELECT A PRESIDENT WHO IS A FIGHTER, WHO 20:06:33 WILL TAKE ON THE OIL COMPANIES, AND IS GOING TO SAY TO 20:06:36 AMERICANS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT TO REALLY BE FOCUSED ON HOW 20:06:39 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE MONEY. BILL: AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND 20:06:43 THAT I'M ANGRY AND SO IS EVERYBODY WATCHING HERE BECAUSE 20:06:45 BOTH PARTIES SOLD US OUT. YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO 20:06:49 BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY WITH THE HEALTH CARE PROGRAM. 20:06:51 >> I'M NOT, NO. NO, I'M NOT. 20:06:55 BILL: CALIFORNIA, OK, $20 BILLION DEFICIT. 20:06:59 OUR HOME STATE, YOU AND I, WE BOTH LIVE IN NEW YORK. 20:07:04 $5 BILLION DEFICIT, OK? BIGGEST EXPENDITURE IN BOTH CAL 20:07:10 AND NEW YORK. MEDICAID, MEDICAL. 20:07:14 FRAUD BETWEEN 10% AND 20%. YOU WILL TELL ME PRESIDENT 20:07:17 HILLARY CLINTON WILL RUN THIS EFFICIENTLY AND B, NOT BANKRUPT 20:07:20 THE COUNTRY WHEN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK ARE ALREADY BANKRUPT? 20:07:23 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? MOSES IS GOING TO COME DOWN? 20:07:28 >> HE COULD HELP, COULDN'T HE? ON THOSE TABLETS HERE IS WHAT'S 20:07:32 GOING TO BE WRITTEN. IF WE DON'T GET TO UNIVERSAL 20:07:36 HEALTH CARE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PLEAD MONEY. 20:07:37 IF WE DON'T HAVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY LIKE THROUGH 20:07:40 ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, WE WILL NEVER CATCH UP TO THE 20:07:45 FRAUD. IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION TO 20:07:47 PROTECT WHAT IS BEST ABOUT THE AMERICAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, WE 20:07:49 WON'T RECOGNIZE IT IN 10 OR 20 YEARS. 20:07:51 HERE IS WHAT I SAY. EVERYBODY WHO HAS HAD HEALTH 20:07:53 INSURANCE WHO IS HAPPY WITH IT, YOU KEEP IT, NO CHANGES. 20:07:55 WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS TAKE AN ALREADY EXISTING PLAN. 20:07:58 IT'S NOT GOVERNMENT RUN. IT'S NOT A NEW BUREAUCRACY. 20:08:01 IT'S THE WAY CONGRESS AND FEDERAL EMPLOYEES GET THEIR 20:08:03 HEALTH CARE. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO 20:08:05 EVERY AMERICAN. I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME. 20:08:07 BILL: YOU'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE THEM. 20:08:09 >> WE ARE. HERE'S WHY. 20:08:11 YOU ALREADY ARE SUBSIDIZING IT. YOUR FAMILY POLICY HAS A $900 20:08:15 HIDDEN TAX. WHY? 20:08:17 WHEN SOME POOR PERSON WHO DOESN'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE 20:08:20 -- BILL: GOES TO THE EMERGENCY 20:08:21 ROOM, YOU HAVE TO PICK IT UP. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET THE COST 20:08:26 DOWN FOR EVERYBODY. PEOPLE SHOULD PAY SOMETHING IF 20:08:28 THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY IT. UNDER MY PLAN, WE WILL TELL THE 20:08:31 INSURANCE COMPANIES NO MORE DISCRIMINATION. 20:08:35 YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. 20:08:39 BILL: IT'S A COMPLICATED BUSINESS ISSUE. 20:08:42 >> IT'S A MORAL ISSUE. BILL: IT IS SELF-RELIANCE THAT 20:08:46 HAS TO KICK IN. >> THERE IS. 20:08:48 BILL: I DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS TAKING 20:08:51 HEROIN AND DRINKING A BOTTLE OF GIN A DAY. 20:08:55 >> I ASSUME YOU WANT TO PAY FOR SOME HARD-WORKING FAMILY WHOSE 20:08:59 KID HAS JUVENILE DIABETES OR SOMEBODY WHO GETS DIAGNOSED 20:09:02 WITH MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS. BILL: I THINK THERE SHOULD BE 20:09:04 SAFETY NETS. >> IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE WILL 20:09:07 MEET AGAIN IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS. WE WILL HAVE MORE UNINSURED 20:09:11 PEOPLE. WE WILL NOT HAVE PUT INTO PLACE 20:09:13 THE SAFEGUARDS AND ACCOUNTABILITY THAT OUR HEALTH 20:09:15 CARE SYSTEM NEEDS. BILL: ALL RIGHT. 20:09:17 IN A MOMENT, WE'LL CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION WITH SENATOR 20:09:19 CLINTON. WE'LL ZERO IN ON WHETHER SHE 20:09:21 BELIEVES SHE HERSELF IS A POLARIZING PERSONALITY AND SOME 20:09:24 OF THE UNFAIR TREATMENT SHE HAS GOTTEN FROM LIBERAL NEWS 20:09:27 OUTLETS. BILL: SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON 20:12:39 ENTERS THE NO-SPIN ZONE. I SPOKE WITH HER THIS MORNING 20:12:41 IN SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, AND THE CONVERSATION QUICKLY BECAME 20:12:44 PERSONAL. YOU KNOW, YOUR HUSBAND AND I 20:12:46 MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. DID YOU KNOW THAT? 20:12:48 >> I HAVE HEARD THAT. BILL: WE MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. 20:12:51 YOU IF YOU'RE PRESIDENT WILL TAKE MORE OF MY MONEY AND YOUR 20:12:54 HUSBAND'S MONEY AWAY, AWAY. OK. 20:12:56 NOW I'M PAYING 33% TAX NOW. YOU WILL RAISE THAT TO WHAT? 20:13:00 >> I'M GOING UP TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE 190'S. 20:13:04 BILL: 39%. >> 39. 20:13:07 BILL: I'M GETTING A 6.5% BUMP. >> IT'S ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE 20:13:11 MAKING $250,000. BILL: YOU'RE TALKING TO HIM. 20:13:14 >> I KNOW. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE 20:13:16 GOING TO PAY MORE SO THAT WE CAN CUT MIDDLE-CLASS TAXES ON 20:13:20 PEOPLE WHO GET UP EVERY DAY AND DO HARD WORK TO KEEP OUR 20:13:23 COUNTRY GOING. BILL: BEFORE I VOTE FOR YOU, I 20:13:25 WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT OF MY 20:13:28 WALLET. >> I WILL TAKE AS MUCH AS YOU 20:13:30 WERE PAYING IN THE 1990'S. AS I RECALL, YOU DID PRETTY 20:13:33 WELL IN THE 1990'S. BILL: 6.5, OK. 20:13:37 PAYROLL TAX, YOU WILL KNOCK THAT AT THEM? 20:13:40 >> I HAVE NOT MADE ANY COMMITMENT ON WHAT WE WILL DO. 20:13:42 HERE'S WHY. I LEARNED A LESSON FROM RONALD 20:13:45 REAGAN. IN 1980 WHEN HE WAS ELECTED, 20:13:47 OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM WAS IN A MESS. 20:13:49 THE DEMOCRATS WEREN'T AGREEING AND A LOT OF THE REPUBLICANS 20:13:52 WERE NERVOUS. SO SPEAKER TIP O'NEILL, ANOTHER 20:13:54 GREAT AMERICAN POLITICIAN, THE TWO OF THEM, THE TWO IRISHMEN, 20:13:58 GOT TOGETHER AND SAID LET'S HAVE A COMMISSION. 20:14:00 BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO FIX THIS IS IF 20:14:03 EVERYBODY SAID HEY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. 20:14:05 I AM NOT GOING TO RAISE THE PAYROLL TAX. 20:14:09 BILL: I COULD PAY IT ON EVERY NICKEL I MAKE. 20:14:12 THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER EIGHT GOING ONTO THE SIX AND A HALF. 20:14:14 >> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF LIFTING THE CAP. 20:14:18 BILL: YOU WILL KEEP IT 109. >> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE. 20:14:22 BILL: YOU'RE WAFFLING HERE? >> I'M NOT WAFFLING. 20:14:26 I'M SAYING I WILL NOT IMPOSE ADDITIONAL BURDENS ON 20:14:29 MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES. BILL: I'M NOT MIDDLE CLASS. 20:14:31 I'M A RICH GUY. >> RICH PEOPLE, GOD BLESS US, 20:14:35 WE DESERVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE OUR 20:14:37 COUNTRY AND OUR BLESSINGS CONTINUE UNTIL THE NEXT 20:14:39 GENERATION. BILL: I'M A SAVER AND I'M 20:14:41 PRUDENT. I'M ASSUMING I WILL GET A 14% 20:14:43 HIT. >> DON'T ASSUME THAT. 20:14:45 YOU CAN'T ASSUME THAT FROM ME. I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING LIKE 20:14:47 THAT. BILL: YOU WILL RAISE TAXES ON 20:14:50 THE WEALTHY. THAT'S INCOME REDISTRIBUTION. 20:14:52 YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS. INCOME REDISTRIBUTION IS WHY 20:14:55 SOME CONSERVATIVES DON'T LIKE YOU. 20:14:56 IT'S BECAUSE YOU TAKE FROM THE WEALTHY AND YOU GIVE TO THE 20:15:00 LESS AFFLUENT. THAT'S SOCIALISM. 20:15:02 THAT HAS A SOCIALIST COMPONENT. >> TEDDY ROOSEVELT, WAS TEDDY 20:15:07 ROOSEVELT A SOCIALIST? BILL: SOMEWHAT? 20:15:10 >> I THINK TEDDY ROOSEVELT WAS A GREAT AMERICAN WHO UNDERSTOOD 20:15:13 OUR COUNTRY WORKS BETTER WHEN WE'RE ALL IN IT TOGETHER. 20:15:18 90% OF THE BENEFITS OF INCOME IN THE LAST DECADE HAVE GONE TO 20:15:20 PEOPLE LIKE US. INCOME DISTRIBUTION WAS MUCH 20:15:23 BROADLY DISPERSED. YOU WERE GROWING UP ON LONG 20:15:26 ISLAND. I WAS GROWING UP OUTSIDE OF 20:15:27 CHICAGO. MY DAD GOT UP EVERY DAY. 20:15:30 HE WAS A SMALL BUSINESSMAN. HE WORBLINGD HIS HEAD OFF. 20:15:31 HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE DECK WAS STACKED AGAINST HIM. 20:15:34 HE THOUGHT OK, I'M GOING TO BE TREATED FAIRLY IF I DO MY PART. 20:15:39 BILL: IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD LEVITTTOWN, THERE WAS NO INCOME 20:15:43 DISTRIBUTION AT ALL. THERE WAS EARNING MONEY. 20:15:44 YOU KEPT MOST OF IT BECAUSE TAXES WERE REALLY LOW. 20:15:47 >> THAT IS NOT TRUE. LOOK AT THE TAX RATES IN THE 20:15:50 1940'S, THE 1950'S, AND THE 1960'S. 20:15:54 BILL: FOR THE WEALTHY, BUT NOT FOR MY DAD. 20:15:57 >> WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE 1950'S AND 1960'S 20:16:01 THEN? WHEN PRESIDENT KENNEDY MADE 20:16:04 THAT DRAMATIC ANNOUNCEMENT HE WAS GOING TO TOP THE -- CUT THE 20:16:07 TOP RATE FROM 90% TO 70%, PEOPLE STOOD UP AND CHEERED. 20:16:11 ALL I WANT TO DO IS GET BACK TO WHAT WORKED IN THE 190'S. 20:16:14 IN THE 190'S, WE HAD ONE OF THE STRONGEST, FAIREST ECONOMIES WE 20:16:18 EVER HAD. DID PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME PAY 20:16:20 A LITTLE MORE? WE SURE DID. 20:16:22 BUT SEW SO DID EVERYBODY ELSE BENEFIT BECAUSE MIDDLE CLASS 20:16:26 TAXES STAYED EVEN. BILL: WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD BUSH 20:16:30 ECONOMY. >> IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, THE 20:16:32 TYPICAL AMERICAN FAMILY HAS LOST $1,000 IN INCOME. 20:16:35 THEIR ENERGY COSTS HAVE GONE UP $2,000. 20:16:38 THEIR AVERAGE TAX CUT THEY GOT OUT OF WHATEVER HE WAS DOING 20:16:40 WAS $600. PEOPLE ARE NET LOSERS UNDER THE 20:16:44 BUSH ECONOMY. THEY ARE NET WINNERS UNDER THE 20:16:46 CLINTON ECONOMY. WE'LL BRING BACK A GOOD, 20:16:48 POSITIVE ECONOMY FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. 20:16:50 BILL: I THINK THAT'S DEBATABLE. >> WE COULD GO ON ALL DAY. 20:16:54 BILL: YOU COULD. SOME PEOPLE SAY THERE IS NOT A 20:16:56 BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND BARACK OBAMA. 20:16:58 OVERALL PHILOSOPHY, OVERALL LOOK. 20:17:00 IT'S A DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL LINE. HE IS MORE LIBERAL THAN YOU, 20:17:03 BUT IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S A PERSONALITY RUN WHICH IS 20:17:05 WHY BEFORE REVEREND WRIGHT DERAILED THEM, BARACK OBAMA HAD 20:17:09 SOME MOMENTUM. BECAUSE YOU ARE A MORE 20:17:13 POLARIZING PERSONALITY THAN HE IS. 20:17:14 WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT. PERCEIVED AS A NICER GUY. 20:17:18 >> I HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. 20:17:20 I BEAR A LOT OF THE SCARS OF THE IDEOLOGICAL AND THE 20:17:23 POLITICAL BATTLES. I STAND UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE 20:17:25 IN. I BELIEVE, FOR EXAMPLE, 20:17:27 UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ACHIEVE IN 20:17:29 THIS COUNTRY. BILL: SO DOES HE? 20:17:32 >> NO, HE DOESN'T, ACTUALLY. MY POINT IS I HAVE BEEN DOING 20:17:35 THAT FOR 15 YEARS. SO THE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH 20:17:39 ME, IT'S FAIR. THIS IS THE WAY OUR SYSTEM IS. 20:17:41 THEY TAKE SHOTS AT ME. YOU KNOW WHEN I STARTED RUNNING 20:17:45 IN NEW YORK, PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK I COULD WIN. 20:17:48 I WON 67% OF THE VOTE. THE REASON IS BECAUSE I REACHED 20:17:50 ACROSS PARTY LINES. I'M THE ONE WITH THE RECORD OF 20:17:52 BIPARTISANSHIP. BILL: BUT YOU'RE A MORE 20:17:55 POLARIZING PERSONALITY. YOU'RE LIKE I AM. 20:17:56 I HATE TO SAY THAT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. 20:17:59 BUT YOU ARE. OBAMA, HE'S A NICE GUY. 20:18:02 THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. >> I HAPPEN TO THINK IF YOU 20:18:04 WANT TO TAKE ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES, THE DRUG 20:18:07 COMPANIES, THE OIL COMPANIES, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE TOUGH. 20:18:09 WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS A FIGHTER AGAIN. 20:18:12 WILL THAT CREATE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE A LITTLE UPSET? 20:18:15 YES. BUT IF WE DON'T GET BACK TO 20:18:17 FIGHTING FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO 20:18:19 RECOGNIZE OUR COUNTRY. BILL: ALL RIGHT. 20:18:21 BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S PERSONALITY CONTESTS, 20:18:24 A LOT OF THIS, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 20:18:26 IN NEW YORK, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO IMPROVE UPSTATE NEW 20:18:29 YORK AND YOU DIDN'T AND THE ECONOMY IS WORSE THAN IT WAS 20:18:31 WHEN YOU TOOK OVER YEARS AGO AND YOU BLAMED IT ON BUSH. 20:18:34 JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE DONE SOME GOOD THINGS, I LIVE 20:18:37 IN THE STATE, BUT NEW YORKERS HIGHEST TAX IN THE UNION. 20:18:40 FINALLY QUESTION, ARE YOU SURPRISED -- YOU HAVE TO TELL 20:18:43 ME THE TRUTH HERE. YOU LOOK ME IN THE EYES, I'M 20:18:46 GOING TO BELIEVE YOU. ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT FOX NEWS 20:18:48 HAS BEEN FAIRER TO YOU THAN NBC NEWS, AND A LOT OF THE OTHER 20:18:51 LIBERAL NEWS NETWORKS? ARE YOU SURPRISED? 20:18:56 >> I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS THAN A FAIR AND BALANCED 20:18:59 COVERAGE OF MY CAMPAIGN. BILL: I KNOW YOU'RE BEING A 20:19:02 LITTLE -- BUT REALLY, AREN'T YOU SURPRISED? 20:19:04 >> LOOK, I AM NOT A PUNDIT OR A COMMENTATOR. 20:19:08 I WILL LEAVE THAT TO YOU. THAT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY. 20:19:11 BILL: BUT AREN'T YOU SURPRISED? >> I'M RUNNING FOR THE TOUGHEST 20:19:15 JOB IN THE WORLD. IT GOES WITH THE TERRITORY. 20:19:16 BILL: YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL ME WHETHER YOU'RE SURPRISED. 20:19:19 >> YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS A CAMPAIGN 20:19:22 OF FIRSTS. SITTING DOWN TODAY, ANOTHER 20:19:24 FIRST IN THIS CAMPAIGN. I HAVE BEEN HAVING A GOOD TIME, 20:19:26 ALTHOUGH I WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON NEW YORK BECAUSE WE 20:19:29 DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME BIG CHANGES IN NEW YORK, CHANGES 20:19:32 THAT I HAVE ADVOCATED AND I HOPE WE WILL FINALLY GET AROUND 20:19:35 TO DOING IT. LOOK, WE HAVE BUSINESS TO DO IN 20:19:37 THIS COUNTRY. BILL: TOMORROW AS MENTIONED, 20:19:39 WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE WAR ON TERROR, INCLUDING WATERBOARDING 20:19:43 IN IRAN, IRAQ, AND AFGHANISTAN. I THINK YOU WILL FIND IT VERY 20:19:46 INTERESTING. COMING NEXT, TWO OBAMA 20:19:49 SUPPORTERS REPLY TO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD. 20:19:52 AND DENNIS MILLER HAS BEEN LISTENING WITH RAPT ATTENTION 20:19:54 TO THE CLINTON INTERVIEW. [ Female Announcer ] 20:21:05 THE SCENT OF GARDENIA -- REFRESHING, ENLIVENING, 20:21:07 UPLIFTING -- NOW IN CLOTHES. 20:21:15 INTRODUCING GARDENIA AND PEAR BLOSSOM 20:21:17 FROM DOWNY SIMPLE PLEASURES. 20:21:19 THE SOOTHING SCENT 20:21:21 OF LAVENDER -- CALMING AND RELAXING -- 20:21:25 EXPERIENCE IT IN YOUR CLOTHES. 20:21:31 VANILLA AND LAVENDER. 20:21:32 FROM DOWNY SIMPLE PLEASURES. 20:23:19 BILL: IT'S ONLY FAIR WE GIVE BARACK OBAMA'S PEOPLE SOME TIME 20:23:22 TO REACT TO THE HILLARY CLINTON INTERVIEW. 20:23:24 WE HOPE SENATOR OBAMA HIMSELF WILL TALK WITH US SOON. 20:23:26 IN THE MEANTIME, JOINING US FROM MICHIGAN, NANCY SKINNER, 20:23:30 AND LOS ANGELES SONYA ACKER. BOTH ARE DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS 20:23:34 WHO PREFER OBAMA. HOW DO YOU THINK HILLARY 20:23:36 CLINTON CAME OFF? >> I THOUGHT IT WAS A MASTERFUL 20:23:39 INTERVIEW. I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS VERY 20:23:42 CLEVER AND SMART OF THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN TO AGREE TO THIS IN 20:23:44 THE FIRST INSTANCE. I THOUGHT SHE DID A FINE JOB. 20:23:47 I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I TOOK SOME NOTES. 20:23:50 I'M A LAWYER. I CAN'T HELP BUT ALWAYS WRITE 20:23:52 THINGS DOWN. ONE THING THAT I NOTED WAS SHE 20:23:55 MADE A POINT OF SAYING THAT SHE LEARNED FROM RONALD REAGAN. 20:24:04 I THINK THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PAYROLL 20:24:07 TAX. SUCH A SUBTLE BUT YET REALLY 20:24:10 MASTERFUL STROKE. SHE KNOWS THAT REAGAN IS 20:24:13 SOMEBODY WHO IS STILL QUITE A CULT FIGURE TO EVEN SOME OF THE 20:24:16 DEMOCRATIC VOTERS SHE IS NOW TRYING TO WOO. 20:24:19 BILL: EXCELLENT POINT, TANYA. >> A FEW MONTHS AGO, SHE REALLY 20:24:23 BEAT UP ON BARACK OBAMA WHEN HE SAID THAT RONALD REAGAN WAS A 20:24:26 VISIONARY. IT'S JUST INTERESTING HOW SHE 20:24:27 VERY CLEVERLY BUT ALSO VERY SUBTLY WEAVED RONALD REAGAN 20:24:31 INTO THE CONVERSATION. I THOUGHT SHE DID A VERY SMART 20:24:35 JOB. BILL: I THINK YOU JUST MADE AN 20:24:38 EXCELLENT POINT. I KNOW NANCY HAS SOME EXCELLENT 20:24:40 POINTS, TOO. WHAT ARE THEY? 20:24:41 >> WELL, BILL, IF HILLARY CAN TAKE ON BILL O'REILLY, THEN SHE 20:24:46 CAN HANDLE ALL THE ROGUE NATIONS OUT THERE. 20:24:48 I WILL SAY THAT. SHE REALLY DID A GREAT JOB IN 20:24:50 THAT INTERVIEW, NO CONCERNS THERE. 20:24:52 AND SHE IS A FABULOUS CANDIDATE. 20:24:54 SHE REALLY IS. THAT'S, I THINK, THE PROBLEM 20:24:56 FOR DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. 20:24:59 WE HAVE TWO TERRIFIC CANDIDATES OUT THERE. 20:25:01 SHE HIGHLIGHTED HER STRENGTHS AND HER LONG FIGHTS AGAINST 20:25:05 HEALTH CARE AND HAVING TAKEN A STAND WHEN IT WASN'T POPULAR, 20:25:08 BUT SENATOR OBAMA, YOU KNOW, ON THE IRAQ WAR, HE TOOK THAT 20:25:12 STAND. HE CAME TO DETROIT AND HE 20:25:14 TALKED ABOUT RAISING CAFE STANDARDS IN DETROIT WITH THE 20:25:17 GAS TAX. ANOTHER STAND. 20:25:19 HE'S SAYING NO, WE JUST REALLY CAN'T -- THIS WON'T WORK TO 20:25:22 HAVE A TAXPAYER GAS FIX. SO THEY HAVE BOTH TAKEN STANDS. 20:25:25 THEY ARE BOTH PEOPLE OF SUBSTANCE AND CHARACTER. 20:25:27 ALL THESE OTHER DISTRACTIONS ABOUT WRITING. 20:25:29 I KNOW YOU REALLY TRIED TO -- I HAVE TO TAKE YOU TO TASK FOR 20:25:32 ONE THING, BILL. WHEN YOU SAID THAT REVEREND 20:25:36 WRIGHT, THIS HAS DERAILED OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN. 20:25:38 I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S CLOSE TO THE TRUTH. 20:25:40 BILL: THEN YOU'RE NOT READING THE POLLS, NANCY. 20:25:43 THE POLLS CAME OUT TODAY, OBAMA'S UNFAVORABILITY RATING 20:25:46 UP 11 POINTS. YOU'RE NOT READING THE POLLS. 20:25:49 >> IT'S BUMPED. IT'S NOT BEING DERAILED, 20:25:51 OBVIOUSLY. BILL: THAT'S SPECULATION ON 20:25:53 YOUR PART. THIS LOON HAS DERAILED AND 20:25:55 TAKEN EVERY WHIT OF WIND OUT OF BARACK OBAMA'S SAILS. 20:25:58 NOW, TANYA MADE THE POINT, I THINK TANYA IS CORRECT THAT 20:26:02 HILLARY CLINTON BY DOING THIS INTERVIEW IS REACHING OUT TO 20:26:04 INDEPENDENT VOTERS, CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS WHO CAN 20:26:06 VOTE, BY THE WAY, IN INDIANA. AND SHE IS SAYING TO THEM 20:26:10 LISTEN, I AM LOOKING OUT FOR EVERYBODY. 20:26:15 BARACK OBAMA IS NOT HERE. HE'S NOT GOING TO DO THIS. 20:26:18 HE IS BEING WEIGHED DOWN. I'M LIGHT AND LIVELY. 20:26:22 TANYA, SHE DID LOOK RELAXED, DID SHE NOT? 20:26:25 >> SHE LOOKED VERY RELAXED. SHE WAS COMFORTABLE. 20:26:28 SHE WAS PLAYFUL. I THINK SHE IS ALSO TRYING TO 20:26:31 REMEDY OR HEAL THIS PERCEPTION OF HERS AS BEING THIS SORT OF 20:26:35 IRON MAIDEN, HARD WOMAN. BILL: SHE IS TRYING TO SOFTEN 20:26:41 UP. THAT'S WHY SHE HAD THE PINK 20:26:45 OUTFIT ON. BILL: DID I DO THAT, TOO? 20:26:47 I'M TRYING TO BE PHIL DONAHUE-ISH. 20:26:50 >> YOU WERE WARM AND FUZZY. YOU HAVE TO START CRYING IN 20:26:53 SOME OF THESE INTERVIEWS. BILL: I HAVE TO GET SOME SLEEP 20:26:56 OR I AM GOING TO START CRYING. >> YOU ALMOST HAD A CRUSH ON 20:26:59 HER. WE THINK, BILL. 20:27:01 BILL: THE REVEREND WRIGHT COVER JUST MENTIONED CONTINUES. 20:27:04 AND BARACK OBAMA'S POLL NUMBERS ARE SLIPPING. 20:27:06 WE'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU. DICK MORRIS WILL ANALYZE. 20:27:09 THEN DENNIS MILLER ON WHAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM HILLARY CLINTON 20:27:12 A FEW MINUTES AGO. MILLER TAKING NOTES AS WELL. 20:27:20 THERE IS A MOMENT OF DISCOVERY., WE SEE THAT ALL OF LIFE 20:27:24 IS ELEMENTAL. AND AS WE MARVEL AT ELEMENT 20:27:27 BONDING WITH ELEMENT, WE SOON REALIZE THAT 20:27:30 WHEN YOU ADD THE HUMAN ELEMENT TO THE EQUATION, 20:27:34 THE CHEMISTRY CHANGES. WE FIND A WAY OF SEEING THAT 20:27:36 GIVES US A WAY OF TOUCHING. ISSUES. 20:27:41 AMBITIONS. LIVES. 20:27:43 THE HUMAN ELEMENT. NOTHING IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL. 20:27:47 NOTHING MORE ELEMENTAL. WHOA. 20:28:52 THAT'S A THREE-SHEETER. FOUR-SHEETER. 20:28:55 NOPE. ONE-SHEETER. 20:28:58 [ Female Announcer ] GO AHEAD. 20:29:00 TRY ONE SHEET OF OUR BEST BOUNTY EVER. 20:29:01 IT HAS THICK, THIRSTY QUILTS. IT'S OUR 20:29:03 MOST ABSORBENT BOUNTY YET. AND IT'S SO DURABLE, 20:29:08 ONE SHEET KEEPS WORKING TILL THE JOB'S DONE. 20:29:11 LAB TESTS PROVE BOUNTY HOLDS UP WHILE THE OTHER GUY DOESN'T. 20:29:16 SO GET BOUNTY. THE ONE SHEET 20:29:17 QUICKER PICKER-UPPER. BILL: A BRAND-NEW POLL SHOWS 20:30:34 THAT REVEREND WRIGHT HAS DEEPLY HURT BARACK OBAMA. 20:30:37 THE SENATOR'S UNFAVORABLE NUMBERS ARE UP NINE POINTS 20:30:39 SINCE FEBRUARY. ALSO, A SURVEY U.S.A. POLL 20:30:42 SHOWS THE RACE GETTING TIGHTER IN NORTH CAROLINA. 20:30:44 OBAMA'S LEAD OVER CLINTON HAS SHRUNK TO JUST FIVE POINTS. 20:30:47 AGAIN, WE BELIEVE IT IS THE WRIGHT EFFECT. 20:30:49 JOINING US NOW FROM FLORIDA TO ANALYZE THAT AND OUR CHAT WITH 20:30:52 HILLARY CLINTON, THE GENIUS BEHIND DICKMORRIS.COM, DICK 20:30:56 MORRIS. RUNNING OUT OF ADJECTIVES FOR 20:30:59 YOU. I'M GETTING IT IN. 20:31:01 LET'S DO OBAMA FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO HILLARY SECOND. 20:31:04 POLLS CAME OUT TODAY. THEY WERE ALL BAD NEWS FOR 20:31:06 OBAMA. NANCY SKINNER MIGHT BE RIGHT. 20:31:09 JUST MAY BE A TEMPORARY THING BECAUSE THIS IS OVERSATURATION 20:31:12 ON WRIGHT. THIS HAS TO HURT HIM. 20:31:16 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT BARACK OBAMA YESTERDAY BY THROWING 20:31:19 WRIGHT UNDER THE BUSH FINALLY HAS ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING OR IS 20:31:23 IT JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAUNT HIM? 20:31:26 >> BOTH. HE ACCOMPLISHED A GREAT DEAL 20:31:28 AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAUNT HIM. 20:31:30 IT'S GOING TO BE THE DEFINING ISSUE OF THIS ELECTION. 20:31:35 BY THAT I DON'T MEAN THE PRIMARY. 20:31:37 THE PRIMARY IS OVER. I MEAN HIM AGAINST CAMPAIGN. 20:31:41 -- HIM AGAINST MCCAIN. THE CHINESE CHARACTER FOR 20:31:44 CRISIS, THEY SAY IT'S HALF OPPORTUNITY, HALF DANGER. 20:31:47 I HAVE A COLUMN ON THAT WEBSITE THAT YOU MENTIONED 20:31:51 DICKMORRIS.COM ANALYZING THIS. THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WRIGHT NOW 20:31:53 PRESENTS TO OBAMA IS TO POSITION HIMSELF VIS-A-VIS 20:31:56 REVEREND WRIGHT. HE BEGAN HIS CAMPAIGN 20:31:59 ESSENTIALLY POSITIONING HIMSELF VERSUS SHARPTON AND JACKSON, 20:32:03 SAYING I'M NOT A BLACK CANDIDATE LIKE THEY ARE. 20:32:05 I'M LIKE I AM. NOW WRIGHT HAS BECOME THE 20:32:10 PERSONIFICATION, THE POSTER CHILD OF EVERYTHING THAT WHITES 20:32:14 AND AMERICANS FEAR ABOUT A RADICAL BLACK POTENTIAL 20:32:18 PRESIDENT. AND WHAT OBAMA CAN DO NOW IS 20:32:20 PLAY HIMSELF OFF AGAINST WRIGHT JUST LIKE HE DID AGAINST 20:32:24 JACKSON AND SHARPTON, BUT THIS TIME DO IT BY NAME. 20:32:28 BILL: BUT THEN YOU SAY NO, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CONTINUITY 20:32:32 BECAUSE HE SPENT SO MUCH TIME WITH THE MAN. 20:32:34 YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP TO BEING CALLED THE PHONY AND ALL OF 20:32:37 THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH HIM FOR 20 YEARS. 20:32:39 >> THAT'S THE DANGER PART. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY. 20:32:42 HE MIGHT AS WELL USE THE POSITIVE END OF THIS BY SHOWING 20:32:46 HOW RADICALLY DIFFERENT HE IS FROM WRIGHT AND PEOPLE WOULD 20:32:50 BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT HE IS NOT CRAZY AND 20:32:54 ANTI-AMERICAN LIKE REVEREND WRIGHT. 20:32:55 BILL: I DON'T HAVE VERY MANY PLACES TO GO ANYMORE. 20:32:59 >> BUT THE DANGER PART IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS MCCAIN 20:33:02 AND THE MEDIA ARE GOING TO CRAWL ALL OVER THAT CHURCH AND 20:33:06 SAY HAVE YOU IN THE PEW, AND WHEN YOU SEE OBAMA AND DID YOU 20:33:10 SEE REVEREND WRIGHT AND WHAT DID OBAMA HEAR WRIGHT SAY? 20:33:14 BILL: WHAT ABOUT YOUR KIDS AND WHAT DID THEY DO? 20:33:17 I HAVE EVEN MORE STUFF TOMORROW TO DROP ON THIS STORY. 20:33:19 YOU WANT TO WATCH TOMORROW BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE STUFF ON 20:33:22 WRIGHT. IT'S RIDICULOUS. 20:33:24 IT'S SO ABSURD WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON OUT THERE. 20:33:26 GO AHEAD. >> WHEN HE SAID REVEREND WRIGHT 20:33:29 ISN'T THE SAME MAN I KNEW 20 YEARS AGO, THAT'S FINE. 20:33:31 BUT WHAT ABOUT THE INTERVENING 20 YEARS, WHERE WERE YOU? 20:33:34 BILL: THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 20:33:37 >> JUST LIKE JOHN KERRY'S CAMPAIGN BECAME HOSTAGE TO THE 20:33:41 MEMORIES OF VETERANS WHO SERVED WITH HIM IN VIETNAM. 20:33:44 BILL: ABSOLUTELY, SWIFT BOAT TOOK IT OVER. 20:33:47 >> OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN WILL BE HOSTAGE TO THE MEMORY OF THIS. 20:33:49 BILL: THAT'S A VERY GOOD ANALOGY. 20:33:52 I THOUGHT HILLARY CLINTON DID A SMART THING BY COMING IN AS WE 20:33:54 HAVE DISCUSSED. SHE IS REACHING OUT TO 20:33:56 INDEPENDENTS. AND YOU KNOW, SHE WAS FAIRLY 20:34:00 FORTHCOMING. WHAT DID YOU THINK? 20:34:02 >> LET'S SAY THE REAL WORD, NOT REACHING OUT TO INDEPENDENTS. 20:34:06 THE REAL WORDS ARE THAT SHE HAS CHANGED HER CAMPAIGN FROM 20:34:09 PEOPLE THAT REALLY LIKE HILLARY, REALLY AGREE WITH HER 20:34:12 ON ABORTION AND AGREE WITH HER ON FEMINISM TO A CAMPAIGN BASED 20:34:15 ON PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE OBAMA BECAUSE OF REVEREND WRIGHT. 20:34:20 AND SHE IS GETTING VOTES AGAINST MCCAIN SHE WOULD LOSE. 20:34:25 IN SEARCH OF THOSE VOTES THAT SHE IS ON YOUR SHOW. 20:34:30 BILL: SHE IS IN A POSITION NOW WHERE NEXT TUESDAY, NORTH 20:34:33 CAROLINA AND INDIANA, IF SHE LOSES BOTH THOSE STATES, IT'S 20:34:35 LIGHTS OUT. THE NEW POLLS SAY THEY ARE 20:34:38 MAKING SOME INROADS. >> IF SHE WINS THEM, IT'S 20:34:40 LIGHTS OUT, TOO. BILL: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 20:34:43 >> THIS IS ALL HYPE. SHE GAINED 10 DELEGATES FROM 20:34:47 PENNSYLVANIA. BILL: IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY 20:34:50 DIFFERENCE WITH THE NUMBERS. HERE IS WHAT THE CALCULATION 20:34:52 IS. IF SHE WINS BOTH OR EVEN ONE, 20:34:54 SHE STAYS IN THE RACE BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT HAPPEN TO 20:34:57 OBAMA. SOME OTHER SHOE MIGHT DROP. 20:34:59 THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. >> YEAH, BUT WHAT'S GONE ON NOW 20:35:02 IS THAT BY THE TIME THESE PRIMARIES ARE OVER, OBAMA WILL 20:35:05 HAVE 1,920 DELEGATES. BILL: IF HE DOESN'T BLOW UP. 20:35:09 IF HE DOESN'T BLOW UP. THERE IS OTHER STUFF SWIRLING. 20:35:13 >> YEAH, BUT HE'S GOING TO BE -- I GUARANTEE YOU 1,920 20:35:16 DELEGATES. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A RACE 20:35:19 BY THE SUPER DELEGATES TO GET THEIR NAMES IN TO BE THE ONE 20:35:22 THAT PUT HIM OVER. BILL: YOU WERE ADVISING HILLARY 20:35:26 CLINTON -- IF YOU WERE ADVISING HILLARY CLINTON, I KNOW YOU 20:35:28 WOULD JUST SAY JUST STAY IN AS LONG AS CAN YOU IN CASE 20:35:31 SOMETHING FALLS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD TELL 20:35:34 HILLARY CLINTON? WHAT BILL IS TELLING HER. 20:35:36 STAY IN, BEAT UP OBAMA, ELECT MCCAIN AND RUN IN 12. 20:35:41 BILL: DICK MORRIS, EVERYBODY. WHEN WE COME BACK, DENNIS 20:35:44 MILLER WITH SOME THOUGHTS ON HILLARY CLINTON AND THE 20:35:47 NEVER-ENDING REVEREND WRIGHT SITUATION. 20:35:49 THEN POLICING THE NET ON THE FAR LEFT GOING CRAZY OVER MY 20:35:52 INTERVIEW WITH MRS. CLINTON. [ Female Announcer ] 20:36:21 IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DESTINATION BUT THE DISCOVERIES 20:36:23 YOU MAKE ALONG THE WAY. NOW THE EXPERIENCE 20:36:25 COMES TO LIFE... IN YOUR CLOTHES. 20:36:32 INTRODUCING THE DOWNY RADIANCE COLLECTION 20:36:34 WITH SCENT PEARL INFUSION. WITH AN EMBRACE, 20:36:39 SCENT PEARLS RELEASE TO RENEW THE DELICATE FRAGRANCE. 20:36:42 WHERE WILL THE SCENTS TAKE YOU? 20:36:45 THE NEW RADIANCE COLLECTION FROM DOWNY. 20:36:48 VISIT DISCOVERINGRADIANCE.COM. OKAY GUYS, SEE YOU LATER. 20:37:22 CAN'T DO LATER, I'VE GOT AN 11:00 WITH THE SPANISH TUTOR 20:37:24 AND I'M DOUBLE BOOKED AT NOON. I CAN SQUEEZE YOU IN 20:37:25 AT TWO AFTER BALLET. I'VE GOT 15 MINUTES 20:37:27 OPEN AT 3:45. 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THE INTERVIEW WITH HILLARY 20:39:09 CLINTON, OF COURSE, AND THE UNENDING REVEREND WRIGHT 20:39:14 SITUATION. JOINING US FROM L.A., THE GUY 20:39:15 WHO KNOWS NO FEAR. SYNDICATED RADIO TALK SHOW STAR 20:39:19 DENNIS MILLER. LOVE THE GLASSES. 20:39:21 YOU ARE LOOKING LIKE PROFESSORER WIN CORY OUT THERE. 20:39:24 A YOUNGER GUY. >> WE HAVE HIM TAKING HUME 20:39:30 CRONIN'S PICTURE IN THE BEGIN GAME. 20:39:32 BILL: A LOT OF YOUNGER VIEWERS DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS. 20:39:34 YOU AND I, OF COURSE, REMEMBER HIM. 20:39:37 WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THE THROWING BARACK OBAMA UNDER THE 20:39:40 BUS YESTERDAY, THROWING BARACK OBAMA? 20:39:43 THROWING REVEREND WRIGHT UNDER THE BUS BY SENATOR OBAMA. 20:39:46 WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THAT? >> IT'S A TALE OF TWO TAPE 20:39:49 RECORDERS. I THOUGHT IT WAS POLITICALLY 20:39:52 OPPORTUNISTIC ON BARACK'S PART TO DO THAT. 20:39:54 I DON'T THINK HIS MAIN PROBLEM IS REVEREND WRIGHT. 20:39:57 I KNOW YOU DO. I THINK IT WAS THE TAPE 20:39:59 RECORDER LEFT ON AT THE SWELL PARTY OUT IN SAN FRANCISCO. 20:40:02 THAT'S WHY HE CAME ON FOX WITH CHRIS. 20:40:04 I THINK HILLARY LEFT A TAPE RECORDER ON WHEN SHE DISENGAGED 20:40:08 FROM THE DAILY COZE CROWD. THAT'S WHY SHE IS ON WITH YOU. 20:40:14 I WOULD CAUTION YOU ABOUT YOUR NEWFOUND FRIEND EVERY YEAR ON 20:40:18 "SURVIVOR" THERE IS A GIRL WHO SPOONS NEXT TO THE GUY AT THE 20:40:22 FIREPLACE EVERY NIGHT. THEN SHE VOTES HIM OUT WHEN SHE 20:40:24 GETS A CHANCE. IF I WERE YOU, I HANG ONTO THE 20:40:28 IMMUNITY TITLE. BILL: I'M NOBODY'S FRIEND BUT 20:40:31 YOU. I'M IN THIS TO WATCH THEM YOU 20:40:33 WILL. THEY KNOW THAT. 20:40:34 THERE WAS NO DEAL YOU CAN'T ASK THIS, YOU CAN'T ASK THAT. 20:40:37 THERE WAS NONE OF THAT. I ASKED HER QUESTIONS AND IT 20:40:40 WAS CLOSE COMBAT. WHENEVER SHE SAID SOMETHING 20:40:41 THAT I FELT WASN'T TRUE, I CHALLENGED WHICH IS WHAT WE DO. 20:40:45 >> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? BILL YRK SURE. 20:40:48 >> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION, BILL? 20:40:51 IT WAS A NICE CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HAVE 20:40:55 WENT ANY FURTHER THAN WHEN YOU SAID SEVEN TIMES YOU VOTED 20:40:58 AGAINST NUCLEAR ENERGY AND YOU VOTED AGAINST ANWAR AND IT 20:41:01 MOVED ON FROM THAT. I THOUGHT HOW DOES THIS MOVE ON 20:41:03 FROM THERE? I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THE 20:41:06 NEXT FOUR SEGMENTS AND JUST WAVEN YOU DO THE O'REILLY 20:41:10 HAMMER AND SAY NO, WAIT A MINUTE. 20:41:11 YOU CAN'T GO RIGHT TO SAYING OIL PRICES AND AMERICANS ARE 20:41:14 HURTING AND PLAYING THE EMPATHY CARD. 20:41:16 YOU ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM. ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE THAT? 20:41:19 I DON'T WANT IT TO MOVE ON. BILL: I WAS FAIRLY RUDE IN 20:41:23 SAYING YOUR HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS, 20:41:25 ALONG WITH THE GLOBAL WARMING GUY, AL GORE, AND THEY DID 20:41:29 QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BUPKUS. >> I DON'T THINK HILLARY 20:41:33 CLINTON HAS EVER IN HER LIFE HAD A GUY SAY THAT. 20:41:36 NOW, YOU'RE RIGHT, I COULD HAVE SPENT -- I COULD HAVE SPENT THE 20:41:40 NEXT FIVE MINUTES HAMMERING HER THAT SHE VOTED AGAINST NUKE 20:41:44 ENERGY AND SHE VOTED AGAINST ANWAR, BUT THEN I COULDN'T HAVE 20:41:47 GOTTEN INTO THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE HER HEALTH CARE PROGRAM 20:41:50 MIGHT BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY. AND I COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN INTO 20:41:52 THE LEFT-WING, YOU KNOW, HAMMERING HER, BUT SHE IS STILL 20:41:56 NOT GOING TO THROW THEM UNDER THE BUS. 20:41:58 >> ALL RIGHT, LISTEN, I AM DOING A LITTLE BACK SEAT 20:42:01 DRIVING, YOU'RE RIGHT. BILL: I LIKE THAT, MILLER. 20:42:04 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE YOU HERE. >> THE NEXT TIME SHE BRINGS UP 20:42:07 UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, THOMAS LIPSIN FROM "AMERICAN THINKER" 20:42:11 CALLED ME TODAY. HE SAID IT ALL. 20:42:13 IT'S ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. HE SAID WHERE WAS SHE WHEN SHE 20:42:16 WAS OP THE BOARD AT WAL-MART FOR SIX YEARS? 20:42:19 WHY DIDN'T SHE TAKE CARE OF THE GARDEN OF HEALTH CARE THAT WAS 20:42:21 IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF HER? SHE TALKS ABOUT THE UNIVERSE. 20:42:25 BILL: SHE WASN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THEN. 20:42:26 SHE WANTED TO MAKE SOME MONEY. I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR 20:42:29 HILLARY CLINTON OR ANY OTHER POLITICIAN, BUT THEY ARE ALL 20:42:32 OPPORTUNISTS, YOU KNOW THAT. I WILL INTERVIEW JOHN MCCAIN 20:42:35 NEXT WEEK. IT WILL BE THE SAME EXACT 20:42:36 INTERVIEW. IT WILL BE ME AND MCCAIN IN 20:42:38 LITTLE CHAIRS, MANO A MANO. I WILL ASK HIM JUST AS TOUGH 20:42:42 QUESTIONS THERE. BUT I COULD GO BACK IN MCCAIN'S 20:42:44 LIFE AND I COULD PULL OUT STUFF THAT HE DID CRAZY. 20:42:47 I'M GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND ALL OF THAT. 20:42:49 BUT YOU KNOW, LOOK, THERE COMES A POINT WHERE YOU ARE TAKING 20:42:52 THE LESSER OF THREE EVILS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TAKING. 20:42:55 THERE IS NO PERFECT CANDIDATE. YOU KNOW THAT. 20:42:57 >> ALL RIGHT. LISTEN, I DON'T MIND PAYING 20:43:00 MORE TAXES. I'M LIKE YOU. 20:43:02 I WILL GO UP TO 39 WITH 10, I WILL GO UP TO 50. 20:43:05 I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ONE OUT OF EVERY TWO BUCKS I MAKE. 20:43:09 BILL: YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE FROM HILLARY CLINTON, I 20:43:11 WOULD LIKE HER TO BE POLITE ABOUT IT. 20:43:13 THIS WHOLE THING WHERE SHE IS IN A BIND NOW AND SHE COMES 20:43:16 DOWN AND SLUMS WITH FOX WHEN SHE WON'T DO THE DEBATE BECAUSE 20:43:19 SHE NEEDS TO PULL THIS ELECTION OFF, IT'S STARTING TO BOTHER 20:43:22 ME. SOMEBODY OUGHT TO COME TO FOX 20:43:26 PREEMPTIVELY. THERE IS THAT WORD AGAIN. 20:43:27 SAY LISTEN, YOU GUYS ARE THE CORE OF THE COUNTRY, YOU'RE THE 20:43:30 HEARTLAND. I NEED YOUR VOTE. 20:43:32 GUESS WHAT, IF I DO ASK YOU FOR ANOTHER 6.5%, I WILL NOT TREAT 20:43:35 YOU LIKE SOME PIG IN A CASTLE UP ON A HILL. 20:43:38 WE'RE GOING TO THANK YOU. BILL: THIS OPENS THE DOOR. 20:43:40 LOOK, THE GREATEST THING ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW -- AND WE'RE 20:43:43 GOING TO GET TO THIS IN THE POLICING OF THE NET, IS THIS 20:43:47 HAS EMASCULATED ALL OF THESE FAR LEFT EXTORTION TYPES LIKE 20:43:51 MOVE ON AND THE COAST WHICH THREATENED HILLARY CLINTON AND 20:43:55 THREATENED BARACK OBAMA AND ALL THE OTHER DEMOCRATS. 20:43:58 >> I THINK IT HAS DONE THAT. BILL: RIGHT. 20:44:01 AND NOW ALL OF THOSE EXTORTIONISTS, ALL OF THOSE 20:44:05 GEORGE SOROS PUPPETS, ALL OF THEIR POWER IS GONE, IN AN 20:44:10 INSTANT GONE. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CALL ANY 20:44:13 SHOTS. YOU KNOW WHO HAS TO GET HIS 20:44:14 BUTT IN HERE NOW? YOU KNOW WHO HAS TO GET HIS 20:44:17 BUTT IN HERE NOW? NOW WHO? 20:44:21 >> DALEY COVE. NO, BARACK. 20:44:26 IF HE DIDN'T, I SAY COME ON, WHERE ARE YOU? 20:44:29 HE HAS GOT TO COME IN. I FIND IT IRONIC THAT HILLARY 20:44:34 CLINTON IS BEING DONE IN BY THE VAST LEFT-WING CONSPIRACY. 20:44:36 I FIND THAT DELICIOUS. BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. 20:44:39 AND SHE GOT REVENGE BY COMING IN HERE AND PUTTING IT RIGHT IN 20:44:43 THEIR FACE, MILLER. >> ALL RIGHT. 20:44:45 I WILL GIVE HER THAT, BILL. DON'T GET MAD AT ME. 20:44:49 IT JUST GOT EVEN MORE CONFUSING BECAUSE I JUST SAW ON FOX NEWS 20:44:53 CHANNEL THAT THE REVEREND WRIGHT JUST ENDORSED HILLARY. 20:44:55 WHERE DO WE GO FROM THIS? BILL: YOU AND I, MILLER, I HAVE 20:44:59 INVITED REVEREND WRIGHT OUT TO DINNER. 20:45:02 YOU, ME, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EAT, GET THAT TOGETHER. 20:45:05 >> PLEASE, COUNT ME IN ON THAT. BILL: HE'S GOING TO PICK US UP 20:45:10 IN HIS MERCEDES. DID YOU KNOW HE HAD A MERCEDES? 20:45:12 >> I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. I'M GLAD HE'S RICH. 20:45:16 BILL: TOMORROW ON "THE FACTOR," YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY 20:45:20 CARS HE HAS, WHAT HIS BANK ACCOUNT IS, AND HOW MUCH BLING 20:45:23 HE HAS GOT. DENNIS MILLER, EVERYBODY. 20:45:26 THAT'S TOMORROW. IN A MOMENT, THE HATEFUL 20:45:29 LEFT-WING BLOGS, FAR LEFT BLOGS AS I JUST SAID ARE NOT PLEASED, 20:45:33 SENATOR CLINTON TALKED WITH ME. POLICING THE NET, WE'LL BUST 20:45:36 THEM NEXT. 20:45:56 PLUG IN. THE FIRST 20:45:57 ULTRA-ADAPTABLE ROOM. FROM MARRIOTT 20:48:55 BILL: BACK OF THE BOOK SEGMENT TONIGHT. 20:48:57 POLICING THE NET, THREE HOT TOPICS. 20:49:00 COMEDIAN DAMON WAYANS OVERSEAS IN AN OFFENSIVE INTERNET SKIT. 20:49:06 JOINING US NOW FROM WASHINGTON ARE INTERNET COP MARY KATHERINE 20:49:10 HAM. IT'S BEEN A PRETTY WILD, ROLL I 20:49:12 CANNING PROGRAM. I NEED YOU TO RESTORE SOMEDAY 20:49:15 CORE. >> I WILL DO MY BEST. 20:49:17 BILL: THAT RHYMES. OK. 20:49:20 FAR LEFT BLOGS ON OBAMA THROWING WRITE UNDER THE BUS. 20:49:24 WHAT DID THEY DO? >> WELL, IT'S THE SORT OF NORMAL OBAMA 20:49:27 CHEERLEADING. WHAT'S REALLY FASCINATING ABOUT 20:49:30 IT HOW THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE SAYING IT WAS BRAVE AND 20:49:34 ADMIRABLE FOR HIM NOT TO THROW WRIGHT UNDER THE BUS IN PHILLY 20:49:37 ARE SAYING IT WAS BRAVE AND ADMIRABLE FOR HIM TO DO SO 20:49:41 YESTERDAY. BRAVE IS A SNYONYM FOR 20:49:43 POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT. BILL: WHATEVER SENATOR OBAMA 20:49:47 DOES IN THESE LOONS' EYES WILL BE BRAVE. 20:49:50 >> IT WILL BE A-OK. THE OTHER RATIONALE IS IF OBAMA 20:49:53 WERE WHITE AND HIS PASTOR WERE WHITE, THIS WOULDN'T BE A BIG 20:49:57 DEAL. THEY ARE ONLY DOING THIS 20:49:58 BECAUSE THE MEDIA THINKS HE'S THIS SCARY BLACK MAN. 20:50:01 THEIR WORDS, NOT MINE. BILL: THIS IS FAIRLY REGULAR ON 20:50:04 THE HUFFINGTON POST AND THE COAST, THEY MAKE EVERYTHING A 20:50:07 RACIAL ISSUE, CORRECT? >> RIGHT. 20:50:09 IN DOING SO, THEY ACTUALLY SAY SOME FAIRLY INSENSITIVE RACIAL 20:50:13 THINGS THEMSELVES, IMPLYING THAT WRIGHT WAS SOMEHOW SEDUCED 20:50:16 INTO TAKING HIS 15 MINUTES OF FAME AT OBAMA'S EXPENSE AS IF 20:50:20 HE IS THIS HAPLESS MAN THAT CAN'T MAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS. 20:50:23 BILL: OF COURSE THE FAR LEFT WAS FURIOUS HILLARY CLINTON 20:50:26 CAME IN HERE BECAUSE IT ERODES THEIR EXTORTION CAPABILITIES. 20:50:34 WHEN BARACK OBAMA SPOKE WITH CHRIS WALLACE ON SUNDAY AND NOW 20:50:37 I'M SPEAKING WITH SENATOR CLINTON TODAY AND TOMORROW, ALL 20:50:41 OF THE BLACKMAIL -- AND THE BLACKMAIL, LET ME EXPLAIN TO 20:50:43 THE AUDIENCE, WAS IF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES COME TO 20:50:46 FOX NEWS AND DEBATE OR EVEN DO AN INTERVIEW, THEN WE WILL SAY 20:50:49 TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT THEM AND STOP ALL FUNDRAISING 20:50:52 MECHANISMS. THAT WAS THE GEORGE SOROS-LED 20:50:55 BLACKMAIL THAT WAS JUST DESPICABLE AND DANGEROUS. 20:51:04 NOW IT'S ALL FALLING APART, IS IT NOT? 20:51:08 >> THE FACT IS THAT WHAT THE LEFT BLOGGERS ARE WILLING TO 20:51:12 JETTISON IS ALL OF THE NORMAL AMERICAN VIEWERS, THE MOST IN 20:51:15 CABLE NEWS THAT WATCH FOX NEWS. THEY HANDICAP THEIR CANDIDATES 20:51:19 BY DOING SO. OBAMA AND HILLARY DO THEMSELVES 20:51:21 FAVORS BY COMING ON FOX AND ACTING LIKE GROWNUPS AND FATES 20:51:27 -- FACING QUESTIONS. BILL: THERE IS THE FREEDOM OF 20:51:30 SPEECH COMPONENT THAT THE FAR LEFT SO ADMIRES BUT DON'T TALK 20:51:34 ON FOX NEWS OR WE'LL HURT YOU. THE HUFFINGTON REPORT, DON'T 20:51:38 TALK ON FOX NEWS OR WE'LL HURT YOU. 20:51:40 I HAVE TO RUN THIS. VIEWER WARNING, PLEASE. 20:51:44 UNBELIEVABLY OFFENSIVE STUFF COMING UP. 20:51:45 IF YOU'RE SENSITIVE, KIDS IN THE ROOM. 20:51:47 COME BACK IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS. ROLL THE TAPE. 20:51:51 >> DON'T FEAR MY [BEEP]. ABORTION MAN IS HERE TO HELP. 20:51:57 >> GOT TO HELP ME [BEEP] OUT. >> I WILL. 20:52:06 >> I HAVE YOU NOW, FIEND. BILL: AND IT GETS WORSE. 20:52:14 THAT'S DAMON WAYANS. HE IS A MOVIE STAR. 20:52:16 THIS IS HIS WEBSITE, RIGHT, HIS PRODUCTION. 20:52:19 >> HE DID THIS PRODUCTION, HE PRODUCED IT. 20:52:21 HE DOESN'T STAR IN IT. IT'S REALLY DISGUSTING. 20:52:23 I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. IT'S NOT FUNNY. 20:52:25 IT'S ALMOST SO VILE AS TO SUGGEST IT'S A PARODY OF SOME 20:52:28 SORT, BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK IT IS. 20:52:30 THE DEAL IS YOU MAKE SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THIS, YOU GET 20:52:35 PEOPLE, PRO-LIFE GROUPS PROTESTING YOU AND IT DRAWS A 20:52:38 LOT OF TRAFFIC. BILL: YOU GET ATTENTION. 20:52:40 I THINK IT ILLUSTRATES THERE IS REALLY NOTHING SACRED AMONG 20:52:43 PEOPLE LIKE DAMON WAYANS. >> I DON'T GET IT, HE HAS DONE 20:52:47 "MY WIFE AND KIDS," WHICH IS SOME DECENT FAMILY ORIENTED 20:52:51 PROGRAMMING. HE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BAD GUY 20:52:52 IN GENERAL. THIS IS DEFINITELY OVER THE 20:52:54 EDGE. BILL: IF MR. WAYANS HAS AN 20:52:56 EXPLANATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT. 20:52:58 MARY KATHERINE HAM, THANK YOU. KEEP AN EYE ON THOSE PINHEADS 20:53:02 OUT THERE. THERE SHE IS, PAULA ABDUL. 20:53:05 SHE FIGURES IN TONIGHT. WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE TAPE WE 20:53:07 HAVE FOR YOU. . 20:56:18 BILL: TIME NOW FOR "PINHEADS AND PATRIOTS." 20:56:22 AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF NUTS SAYING 9/11 WAS AN 20:56:27 INSIDE JOB. ONE LOON CONFRONTED FORMER BUSH 20:56:33 SPEECH WRITER BOB FROM. >> DO YOU THINK THIS HOAX THAT'S 20:56:36 THE 9/11 INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO KEEP ON GOING OR COULD YOU 20:56:40 PERHAPS SEE THAT THERE WILL BE CULPABILITY -- 20:56:43 >> TURN OFF THE CAMERA. GO AWAY. 20:56:46 >> I WILL NOT TURN OFF THE CAMERA. 20:56:48 WE'RE IN PUBLIC, AND ARE YOU WORRIED PERHAPS ABOUT THE 20:56:53 CRIMINAL LIABILITY OF BEING PARTNER TO MASS MURDER AFTER THE 20:56:58 FACT? BILL: WE DON'T ENCOURAGE 20:56:59 PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NECESSARY. 20:57:03 NOBODY SHOULD BE BOTHERED LIKE THAT. 20:57:05 MR. FRUM IS A PATRIOT. THE ALWAYS CONFUSING OR CONFUSED 20:57:12 PAULA ABDUL HAD TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HER JUDGING 20:57:16 DUTIES. >> THE TWO SONGS MADE ME FEEL 20:57:18 LIKE YOU'RE NOT FIGHTING HARD ENOUGH TO GET INTO THE TOP FOUR. 20:57:22 SO DAVID COOK -- >> JUST ON THE FIRST SONG NOW. 20:57:27 >> I THOUGHT YOU SANG TWICE. OH, MY GOD. 20:57:31 BILL: NO, HE ONLY SANG ONE SONG. FOR TONIGHT MISS ABDUL IS A 20:57:36 PINHEAD. I KNOW "AMERICAN IDOL" IS HARD 20:57:40 TO UNDERSTAND AND FOLLOW. FINALLY THE MAIL. 20:57:42 SHORT THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF THE CLINTON INTERVIEW. 20:57:45 DIANE THOMPSON. BECAUSE THEY DON'T BOTHER TO GET 20:57:52 MARRIED AT ALL, MADAM. THEY JUST COHAB TATE AND ABUSE 20:57:58 CHILDREN. WELL, I AGREE. 20:58:26 WELL, THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BITTER AMERICANS, SIR, AND 20:58:29 WRIGHT IS SIMPLY EXPLOITING THEM. 20:58:31 AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE NEW INFORMATION ON HIS ECONOMIC 20:58:33 CIRCUMSTANCE TOMORROW. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A WIN ALL THE 20:58:41 WAY AROUND. I'VE BEEN THERE. 20:58:49 YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, SIR. 20:58:52 I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CONTROL THEIR EMOTIONS. 20:59:04 LOOKING OUT FOR YOU, BRIAN. THOUSANDS OF FOLKS