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Interview Insert Continues: Robert Lipsyte: Okay, well, now we, let's not let Eric drive this show because we have real people here. Do you think that what talk show hosts do solves problems or causes problems, particularly the people who hang up on people and yell at people and insult. Bob Grant: I think we fill a void. There. Look, I've been doing nothing but this for 25 years. And I can tell you, from the mail that I get from people I meet when I do personal appearances, we fill a void. In many cases, we are part of an extended family. And just as you may have a brother in law that you argue with, but still enjoy his company, we fill that role also. Absolutely. Robert Lipsyte: It's an emotional void as well as any kind of political void. And that whether you're somebody's sister or sister in law or Lynn Samuels: I think people look at it that way. I think. What scares me since I've been on ABC is is the amount of hatred that comes over the phones from the listeners. I mean, I think we allow people to ventilate some horrible feelings of hatred towards you or just hatred toward particular groups of people, toward homeless people, gay people Bob Grant: You say we allow- that's an elitist attitude. We allow them to ventilate. If they have those emotions, why shouldn't they be heard? There you go. Lynn, you make me laugh you get on the air and you say the most outrageous things. And then you're surprised at the reaction you get, Barry Farber: Gentlemen and Lynn, we have we have we have the phenomenon of David Duke of the Ku Klux Klan, who I think we all know you've had him on, haven't you? Bob Grant: I have. Barry Farber: I've had him on, I don't know if Lynn's had him on Lynn Samuels : Not me. Barry Farber: And I had him on back in the days when I didn't feel this way as much as I do now, and he apparently didn't feel as much this way. He was a southern conservative. In those days. He has won the most votes, Ku Klux Klan, that he has won the most votes in a Louisiana primary. Bob Grant: What's that got to do with us? Barry Farber: I think it has everything to do with us. I think our business invented David Duke, and I think it's time for talk show hosts to take stock of what we are doing. The murder of Alan Berg proved, didn't have to be proven to me, but it proved to a lot of people out there that it is not a toy it is not the Merry milkman and I think the confection of David Dukes and other right wing haters is on our conscience. Bob Grant: Only right wing hate. Are there only right wing haters, don't nobody from the left wing hates. Lynn Samuels : No. Bob Grant : Oh, come on! Barry Farber: Well, sure that Bob Bob, the the left wing haters, the communists have been sufficiently defeated and humiliated. It is the right wing haters who have the prairie Bob Grant : Well Barry I want to tell you something you couldn't get on a lot of college campuses to speak, they probably would have put you out of there because you would be called a right wing fascist. Barry Farber: That's right. Bob Grant : Okay. Right. But that isn't the point. The point is that you're suggesting that we draw up a list of persona non grata. And you and Bob Lipsyte should not have these persona non grata individuals as guests. Is that what you're saying? Robert Lipsyte : That's a very important, that's a very important question. Because in this country, everybody has the right to be heard, but not necessarily the right to be heard on your show or Barry's or Lynn's. Lynn Samuels: There's a whole theory that I believed in that these right wing hateful people should be exposed by being on the radio or being on television, and it's gone beyond that. No, I now agree with Barry Farber, it's gone beyond that, I think it makes them look respectable to put them on the air. Barry Farber: Absolutely. Look, they're on television, they must come out they are kissed by tongues of electronic flame. They are valid. Bob Grant : Alright, how do you feel about some black militant that is interviewed, a guy who has been blowing up buildings, a guy who has been engaged in nothing but violence, and then he's interviewed on Channel 13, for example, and below the person's likeness is the caption "militant or activist"? What do you think of that? What do you think of portraying a bomb thrower as quote "an activists?" Barry Farber: We all have our standards. You asked me about the blacklist. I don't respect anybody who doesn't have a blacklist. They have the right to be heard. But they don't have the right to be on the Bob Grant show. And they don't have the right to be on the Lynn Samuels show or the Barry Farber show, I feel that that I have to he can militant activists, that alone doesn't turn me off. Is he a hater? is he up to good or no good? I have the right to decide for myself. I'm the world's foremost authority on how I feel. Is he up to good or no good? And is he? Is he real? Or is he a media confection?
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Reel Summary | The Eleventh Hour, Show #115 Title: Talk Radio Guests: Eric Bogosian, Actor /Lynn Samuels, Barry Farber, Bob Grant - Radio Talk Show Hosts. Secret "former" unidentified Radio Talk Show Host. Description: Talk Radio Show Hosts discuss the controversies around the themes, pros and cons, of their type of programming. Original Broadcast Date: 1-27-89 |
Description | Interview Insert Continues: Robert Lipsyte: Okay, well, now we, let's not let Eric drive this show because we have real people here. Do you think that what talk show hosts do solves problems or causes problems, particularly the people who hang up on people and yell at people and insult. Bob Grant: I think we fill a void. There. Look, I've been doing nothing but this for 25 years. And I can tell you, from the mail that I get from people I meet when I do personal appearances, we fill a void. In many cases, we are part of an extended family. And just as you may have a brother in law that you argue with, but still enjoy his company, we fill that role also. Absolutely. Robert Lipsyte: It's an emotional void as well as any kind of political void. And that whether you're somebody's sister or sister in law or Lynn Samuels: I think people look at it that way. I think. What scares me since I've been on ABC is is the amount of hatred that comes over the phones from the listeners. I mean, I think we allow people to ventilate some horrible feelings of hatred towards you or just hatred toward particular groups of people, toward homeless people, gay people Bob Grant: You say we allow- that's an elitist attitude. We allow them to ventilate. If they have those emotions, why shouldn't they be heard? There you go. Lynn, you make me laugh you get on the air and you say the most outrageous things. And then you're surprised at the reaction you get, Barry Farber: Gentlemen and Lynn, we have we have we have the phenomenon of David Duke of the Ku Klux Klan, who I think we all know you've had him on, haven't you? Bob Grant: I have. Barry Farber: I've had him on, I don't know if Lynn's had him on Lynn Samuels : Not me. Barry Farber: And I had him on back in the days when I didn't feel this way as much as I do now, and he apparently didn't feel as much this way. He was a southern conservative. In those days. He has won the most votes, Ku Klux Klan, that he has won the most votes in a Louisiana primary. Bob Grant: What's that got to do with us? Barry Farber: I think it has everything to do with us. I think our business invented David Duke, and I think it's time for talk show hosts to take stock of what we are doing. The murder of Alan Berg proved, didn't have to be proven to me, but it proved to a lot of people out there that it is not a toy it is not the Merry milkman and I think the confection of David Dukes and other right wing haters is on our conscience. Bob Grant: Only right wing hate. Are there only right wing haters, don't nobody from the left wing hates. Lynn Samuels : No. Bob Grant : Oh, come on! Barry Farber: Well, sure that Bob Bob, the the left wing haters, the communists have been sufficiently defeated and humiliated. It is the right wing haters who have the prairie Bob Grant : Well Barry I want to tell you something you couldn't get on a lot of college campuses to speak, they probably would have put you out of there because you would be called a right wing fascist. Barry Farber: That's right. Bob Grant : Okay. Right. But that isn't the point. The point is that you're suggesting that we draw up a list of persona non grata. And you and Bob Lipsyte should not have these persona non grata individuals as guests. Is that what you're saying? Robert Lipsyte : That's a very important, that's a very important question. Because in this country, everybody has the right to be heard, but not necessarily the right to be heard on your show or Barry's or Lynn's. Lynn Samuels: There's a whole theory that I believed in that these right wing hateful people should be exposed by being on the radio or being on television, and it's gone beyond that. No, I now agree with Barry Farber, it's gone beyond that, I think it makes them look respectable to put them on the air. Barry Farber: Absolutely. Look, they're on television, they must come out they are kissed by tongues of electronic flame. They are valid. Bob Grant : Alright, how do you feel about some black militant that is interviewed, a guy who has been blowing up buildings, a guy who has been engaged in nothing but violence, and then he's interviewed on Channel 13, for example, and below the person's likeness is the caption "militant or activist"? What do you think of that? What do you think of portraying a bomb thrower as quote "an activists?" Barry Farber: We all have our standards. You asked me about the blacklist. I don't respect anybody who doesn't have a blacklist. They have the right to be heard. But they don't have the right to be on the Bob Grant show. And they don't have the right to be on the Lynn Samuels show or the Barry Farber show, I feel that that I have to he can militant activists, that alone doesn't turn me off. Is he a hater? is he up to good or no good? I have the right to decide for myself. I'm the world's foremost authority on how I feel. Is he up to good or no good? And is he? Is he real? Or is he a media confection? |
Genre | 1980s NEWS |
Color | color |
Year | 1991 |