American politician and later, a federal government official. After serving three terms as a congressman from Arizona, he served as Secretary of the Interior from 1961 to 1969, under presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. In this interview he talks mostly about his son who was a conscientious objector and fled to Canada instead of being drafted THE FIRST QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK YOU WAS ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES IN WORLD WAR TWO. DID YOU HAVE ANY SECOND THOUGHTS OR HESITATION ABOUT GOING INTO THI! AIR FORCE IN WORLD WAR ll? Well, in the beginning - by that I mean 1939 - I was just 19, but t studied and thought a lot about it, and then I was a Mormon missionary for two years. I was a Mormon missionary at the time of Pearl Harbour Jn the eastern part of the United States, and t had strong feelings against war then, and I actually considered in the beginning being a conscientious objector, but of course that all changed and when I saw Hitler, what kind of a confrontation he presented to civilization, I changed my views, and I enlisted in the air force, and I was an enlisted gunner, a sargeant in bombers in Italy. I'M WONDERING THEN, IF YOU HAD BEEN PRESENTED WITH THIS SITUATION IN VIETNAM, A DIFFERENT WAR, IF YOU WERE YOUNGER, WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE DONE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? Well my experience prior to World War II I guess maybe made me a little more sensitive with my children, having - you know you lean towards the pacifist approach. After all, here we were, 20 years after World War I and the same nation's back at it again. and it just seemed counter-productive to some people, and I was in that category, I was bothered by it. Well let the Europeans have another war. Why should we get involved jn it, you see, and I guess that conditioned me to be more more understanding, I hope it did. BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT, IF YOU HAD BEEN YOUNG DURING VIET NAM - YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW HITLER WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS MENACE. DURING VIET NAM MAYBE THE MENACE WAS DIFFERENT. 2:58 "" Well I can understand or ( could understand the war protest movement because had ambivalent feelings myself, in (as 1 think there were three or four of us in President Johnson's cabinet that probably would have qualified or designated at that time as doves - the hawks and doves - I think we essentially had some 3:45 No, my feelings didn't run that strong - doubts about the war, but you the way our government operated under Kennedy and Johnson, there was in effect the war cabinet and the rest of the cabinet, and we were never brought in on decisions, and that made it particularly when you had a job as I did, that I thought was wonderful and the best job in the country and I was doing things that were positive, and I thought good for the country, so why should I break off, since I was not involved in the war decision making.// 4:29 WHEN PEOPLE ARE CONFRONTED WITH A CONFLICT BETWEEN PATRIOTISM - (prompt) WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY'RE CONFRONTED WITH A CONFLICT BETWEEN PATRIOTISM SUCH AS STEVEN DECATUR'S MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG, AND A QUESTION OF HIGHER PRINCIPLE, THAT THEY BELIEVE IS HIGHER, SUCH AS HENRY DAVID THOREAU GOING TO JAIL RATHER THAN SUPPORT THE MEXICAN WAR. IM JUST WONDERING, WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THAT KIND OF CONFLICT, AS MANY PEOPLE WERE DURING VIET NAM, WHAT THEY SHOULD DO? Well the the old concept - you know, my country right or wrong - is really very primitive when you examine it closely, and in a nation like ours, that makes - or has strong- feelings about morality and individuality, cause that's what a democracy Is all about, then it's inevitable it seems to me that - (noise interrupts) THAT'S A WONDERFUL ANSWER. MAYBE START AGAIN. YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU THOUGHT MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG WAS PRIMITIVE. DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT THAT? Well the old 100 percent blind patriotism - my country right or wrong - is really rather primitive when you look at it-, and I think in the last 100 years or so In this country there has developed great subtlety in terms of the right of the individual to have a position of conscience.· We did respect conscientious objectors in both of the big wars and that becomes part of the tradition.. 0f course what you had happen with Viet Nam is that rather than having a small group of people who had problems of conscience, the problems of conscience were with the young people who were being asked to serve in this war, and that's what made it so intense and turbulent and unusual. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT, ABOUT THE INTENSITY AND TURBULENCE IN THE VIET NAM ANTI-WAR PROBLEM WITH THE DRAFT? Well when you saw high school and college age students feeling so deeply that they would do desperate public things, Jt was clear that here was an un.usual situation. I often wondered whether some of our leaders - President Johnson for example - Fully understood the position that young people were put in, and that this was something different than Korea or World War II and so on. It wasn't just another war, and that's what made this such a remarkable exceptional situation for the United States to find itself in, in the 1960's. DID THIS ISSUE EVER COME UP IN CABINET? THE DRAFT? THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT? No, these things weren't discussed. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE IMPACT OF THE VIET NAM WAR WAS ON AMERICA, ON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, ON THE CONCEPT OF NATIONAL SERVICE? 7:57 Well, looking back on it now, I can see more clearly things that I had intimations of at that time. This did damage to our society. I think we lose something when we lose the draft, when we lost the idea that young people should serve their country. I think that's something important and precious and we lost it as a result of this war, and the divisions it produced in the country. I think my own political party - the Democratic party, which has always represented the more liberal point of view like the Viet Nam war shattered the Democratic party, it's never been the same since, and I think some of the older Democrats like myself are beginning to recognize how serious this was, and I think this has done harm to the liberal spirit of this country. It's it's put It In a position, a subordinate position, whereas during Roosevelt's time and I think up through Kennedy certainly you could say that the liberal spirit was a dominant Important part or life in the United States. RIGHT. RJGHT. THOSE ARE ALL WONDERFUL ANSWERS. I'LL GO NOW TO SCOTT, SPECIFICALLY. WHY DID SCOTT JOIN THE REGULAR ARMY WHEN HE HAD OTHER OPTIONS AFTER COLLEGE, SUCH AS THE NATIONAL GUARD OR RESERVES? WHAT MADE HIM DECIDE TO TAKE THAT ROUTB? Well he was - be got a low draft number and he could have stayed in college and saved a few years, but he's very independent-minded and he just decided that he'd take his chances and he'd do it. I wasn't sure with him whether be would show up when he was drafted and that he might - I was very uneasy about it. But he did. He came. He went through boot camp at Fort Benning- in the summer, and I think this was a way of showing himself and maybe the rest of us that it wasn't physical stamina or physical courage that he was lacking in, that he could go through this experience., which he did, and really it was after that that he made his decision. He'd finished. He had an assignment to communications school,, where he would have tone. He wasn't being sent immediately to Viet Nam, but then it came out in him that lf he thought the war was wrong and he wanted to protest that be had to do something, and I was surprised - you know I never got a chance to talk wlth him before he deserted and went to New Mexico, and then friends took him on to Canada. DO YOU REGRET NOT HAVING TALKED TO HIM? Well I talked to him later. I talked to him when I went to Canada, and I could see then how strong his convictions were. You have to recognize, and I could see this at the time, for a young person like, in the dead of winter as it were, to leave your country, to go to a foreign country, that•s a decision that took enormous courage. I think all of these young men and women who left the United States had to have very strong convictions. YoU don't make that kind of decision particularly in a country like the United States where we're always saying to ourselves, this is a wonderful country and it's a generous country and yet suddenly you had this situation where it appeared to a lot or young people not as a generous country, and as a country that was fighting a war that was unjust and crueL WHY DID SCOTT DESERT? WAS THERE A PARTICULAR MOTIVATION? I don't think there was any any specific thing that that triggered it. (overlapping) No, I'm not sure that that was a trigger. I think he thought - he said this after-wards - that maybe if some of the sons of prominent people deserted and went to Canada that that might send a signal and that might change things. That was of course the judgment of a young man and I'm not sure it was right, but he had some of those kinds of feelln-gs and convictions. HIS DESERTION WAS NOT WIDELY REPORTED AT THE TIME, I DON'T THINK. DO YOU KNOW WHY IT WASN'T REPORTED OR - ? No, after all, unless unless a person sets out to dramatize what they have done, like a lot of the war protestors did later. Of course, they were trying to create attention to themselves, but the sort of thing th.at Scott did is a personal statement and I don't know why it didn1t get more publicity but it didn1t. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN ,YOU CROSSED THE BORDER AT CHRISTMAS IN 1969? I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW DID YOU FIND OUT SCOTT DESERTED? 14:36 Well we - we knew - he came through Washington/Fas in Georgia and gathered up some of his things, and went to New Mei{co where we had friends, we had family friends there, and I think my wife and I talked to him. on the_phone and so on. But he_quickly, because he sensed there might be danger, a friend of his drove him to Edmonton and this was in this was in December. The winter - was there and so on so I decided

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Eve's Film Review visits Billy Merson at his home. <br/> <br/>"Golf's one of my hobbies," said Billy as he trained to take it out of Colonel Bogey." M/S of Billy dressed in white and smoking taking shots against a practice net. "But the river's my chief attraction - anything with water in it always fascinates me ---" L/S of Billy and a female friend walking down the steps of a cute house on a riverbank. They are followed by two friends and when they get to the river's edge they wave at someone off screen. "Exercise? Why bless us we live on it ---" Shots of Billy and his friends jumping and diving off a board in their garden into the river. There is also a slide which everyone has a go on. C/U of Billy splashing around with his children (?) in the river. C/U of Billy in a cosy cardigan having a small sherry. He toasts the camera. End title reads: "And the same to you." <br/> <br/>Safety print exists - show print. Probably to be found in the "Stars as They Are" roll.

The Good German Premiere – Sound bite; Christian Oliver Christmas, I still can’t get used to it, palm trees, Christmas, still trying to catch on the year has went by so fast but my parents are here, my mom, my father came out from Germany and my sister, I can’t wait to see my sister, I’m going back to Germany so I’m going home for Christmas and do it the way your suppose to do it, with snow. I mean for me I’m going to go home, see friends and go skiing. Enjoy Christmas with the family.

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FRIENDS OF DON SHERWOOD 2006 AD / ADVERTISEMENT / COMMERCIAL "COUNT ON ME" TRT :30 "Rep. Don Sherwood, the Pennsylvania Republican accused of choking his former mistress, has issued a television ad in which he asks for forgiveness for the "mistake" he made which "nearly cost him" the love his wife and daughters. While saying that the "allegation of abuse was never true," Sherwood tells the voters of Pennsylvania's 10th congressional district that if they were to forgive him, he will stay focused on reducing taxes, creating jobs, and bringing home the district's fair share." Script of "Count on Me" (TV) (ON CAMERA) DON SHERWOOD: I made a mistake that nearly cost me the love of my wife Carolyn (sp) and our daughter. As a family we worked through this because of my deep regret, our love, and the fact that the allegation of abuse was never true. While I'm truly sorry for disappointing you, I never wavered from my commitment to reduce taxes, create jobs and bring hope our fair share. Should you for me, you can count of me to keep fighting hard for you and your family. I'm don Sherwood and I approve this message.

Who's Boss?

A group of friends are toasting each other. One of them has a bottle and he is pouring cider into a glass. It is a summer evening and they are about to dine outside in a field, above them are hanging festive lights.

01:13 ""Evan Thompson"" by Jim Mulryan and Tabby Mulryan. Somewhere in Nevada, Evan Thompson comments on the stereotypes city dwellers have about country folk: ""[They think of us as] redneck, gun wielding, madmen that want to shoot all city people probably. I think Hollywood portrays us as not having a whole lot of brains. . . I think they see us as not knowing a whole lot. Yet if they come in from out of the city and we watch them, we think, 'Oh boy, no wonder you're all killing each other. You're all a bunch of wackos.' We like people, but we don't like neighbors. I think that's like most country people. They like people but don't want to live next door to them."" yes 09:30 ""Diving Mules"" by Skip Blumberg. At the Orange County Fair in Middletown, New York, controversy beaks out at a mule diving exhibit. An animal activist claims that the mules are trained with electric cattle prods. The woman who trains the mules says th at they only use mules that like the water. When asked if the activists love animals, the mule trainer says, ""I don't think they love animals. If they did, they'd move out of the city where they keep their little dogs and cats in their little condos and apartments and move out on a farm where they could enjoy them."" The protester says, ""People can say they love their wives and beat them."" The mule trainer: ""We love the animal activists. All they do is get us a lot of work."" 14:56 ""Country Fiddle and Banjo Contest"" by Andrew Jones. In Lowell, Massachusetts, a fiddler and a banjo picker belt out a Cajun tune. 15:51 ""Roaring Springs, Texas"" by Kathie Robertson. Joey Thacker, the mayor of Roaring Springs, comments on the economics of rural life forcing people to the city. Bennie Dillard, rancher: ""I don't think we've missed anything. If I have I don' t know what it was."" S.N. Fletcher: ""You bet you miss a lot. You're not angry. You live longer."" 24:06 ""Pyrenees Portrait"" by Esti Galili Marpet and Bill Marpet. In Villeraze, France: An old man talks about his family's roots in the area, ""When the old people die, it'll be all over... soon Villeraze will be just a place for tourists."" An 85-year-old woman points to the microphone and asks, ""Are you taking my picture with that?"" 27:14 ""Coyoteland"" by Jay April. In Los Angeles, California: A woman recounts the tale of a coyote stealing her dog form the backyard. Louis Dedeaux, L.A. wildlife specialist, says that once coyotes start eating domestic pets, it becomes a regular part of their diets. Louis on coyotes: ""They're really a good animal. We're building and crowding them in."" Lyla Brooks, a California Defender of Wildlife, says, ""People don't know how to coexist with wildlife. It's a people problem."" In the meantime, Louis checks his traps. Lyla: ""As a rule I don't like trappers, but you seem like a likable fellow... I'm surprised he picked up this profession. He should do something else."" Louis: ""I can monitor it in this profession. It's gonna happen anyway. I can make sure it's done as humanely as possible."" Louis drives through a construction area and says, ""This is why I'm trapping. They're gonna build more homes, take up more space and bring in more domestic pets."" Louis catches a coyote in a trap, ""It's a necessary evil... What justifies it for me is the pets I save... I might have to take a life to save ten."" With the camera focused on the door of the animal regulation truck, Louis shoots the coyote. Louis lets go ""our friend the gopher snake."" Jay: ""You must like that part, letting something go?"" Louis: ""It's the best part of all."" 35:56 ""Sharkey's Cowboys"" by Jim Mulryan and Tabby Mulryan. In Gardnerville, Nevada: Sharkey Begovich praises the courage of the original cowboys: ""A cowboy has to survive from the day he's born to the day he dies... They're a vanishing breed... Honor is a thing of the past."" 45:36 ""Too Old to Die Young"" by Magda Cregg. A music video on the destruction of the Redwood Forest. Features archival logging footage and scenes from Earth First! demonstrations. ""Death rides a logging truck."" 48:50 ""Doug Peacock"" by Jimmy Sternfield. Noted environmentalist Doug Peacock (a.k.a. George Hayduke): ""The overriding issue is not taxation. It's simply the survival of the planet itself... We're going to go down the tubes. Our grandchildren might not even have the chance of a life and maybe it's not a life worth living. That is the reality... We're not going to have too many elections where we have the chance to talk about other issues. If all the powerful countries on Earth took all the resources they put in military, nuclear war and transferred that into making the planet a better place to live, we'd have a chance... Maybe just 50-50. The odds are just that bleak and that's what oughta be talked about."

00:00:00:03 MS Romney at podium, Ann Romney and crowd behind/ Mitt "What an honour to have our friends here tonight, this touches our heart. Its so extraordinarily powerful to come here and see so many friends and see behind me almost the entire Massachussettes Republican state legislature. To have gov. Weld here and Kerry Hely and so many friends. You know Ann, of course, and my family, my sons and daughters here, daughters-in-law but also at the far end is my brother and don't ask me if he's younger than me. He's older than me!" (0:40) / 00:00:40:22 "My brother Scott, he's been campaigning all over the country for me and I appreciate your being here tonight on a very special night. You know Ann came to me and she said 'you know the one thing that's clear tonight is that nothing's clear' but I think she's wrong. One thing that's clear is this campaign is going on."/ Crowd cheers and waves signs, chants "Mitt" (0:42) / 00:01:23:12 "I think there's some people who that it was all oign gto be done tonight. But its not done tonight. We're going to keep on battling, we're going to go all the way to the convention, and we're going to win this thing and we're going to the White House." (0:16) /

Sound Bite: Marlee Matlin – eco friendly Well in terms of being green in our family we recycle a great deal uhm important, it would be nice if my kids could walk more often then have me drive them but at the same time being that its LA and it’s a little tough and we’re a little spread out from everything so its tough to walk.

AN INDIANA WORLD WAR II VET RECEIVES HIS MEDALS LATE.

A group of friends are sitting at a dining table out in a field on a summers evening in southern France. Some are standing serving and being served cooked food. Above them hang festive lights.

THIS DIGIBETA VERSION HAS BEEN MADE FROM THE PRINT - VERSION ON TAPE *PM0864* WILL PROBABLY BE BETTER QUALITY AS TAKEN FROM THE NEGATIVE. <br/> <br/>Eve's Film Review visits Billy Merson at his home. <br/> <br/>"Golf's one of my hobbies," said Billy as he trained to take it out of Colonel Bogey." M/S of Billy dressed in white and smoking taking shots against a practice net. "But the river's my chief attraction - anything with water in it always fascinates me ---" L/S of Billy and a female friend walking down the steps of a cute house on a riverbank. They are followed by two friends and when they get to the river's edge they wave at someone off screen. "Exercise? Why bless us we live on it ---" Shots of Billy and his friends jumping and diving off a board in their garden into the river. There is also a slide which everyone has a go on. C/U of Billy splashing around with his children (?) in the river. C/U of Billy in a cosy cardigan having a small sherry. He toasts the camera. End title reads: "And the same to you." <br/> <br/>Safety print exists - show print. Probably to be found in the "Stars as They Are" roll.

FRIENDS OF DON SHERWOOD 2006 AD / ADVERTISEMENT / COMMERCIAL "COUNT ON ME" TRT :30 "Rep. Don Sherwood, the Pennsylvania Republican accused of choking his former mistress, has issued a television ad in which he asks for forgiveness for the "mistake" he made which "nearly cost him" the love his wife and daughters. While saying that the "allegation of abuse was never true," Sherwood tells the voters of Pennsylvania's 10th congressional district that if they were to forgive him, he will stay focused on reducing taxes, creating jobs, and bringing home the district's fair share." Script of "Count on Me" (TV) (ON CAMERA) DON SHERWOOD: I made a mistake that nearly cost me the love of my wife Carolyn (sp) and our daughter. As a family we worked through this because of my deep regret, our love, and the fact that the allegation of abuse was never true. While I'm truly sorry for disappointing you, I never wavered from my commitment to reduce taxes, create jobs and bring hope our fair share. Should you for me, you can count of me to keep fighting hard for you and your family. I'm don Sherwood and I approve this message.

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