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REPUBLICAN DEBATE
[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA WHEN WE BELIEVE IN THE ESSENTIAL IDEALS 20:36:12 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST AMERICAN IDEALS, THEY COME FROM 20:36:15 GOD. AND I THINK IT'S OUR MORAL 20:36:17 OBLIGATION TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF 20:36:19 THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 20:36:21 CONGRESSMAN PAUL, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN THE 20:36:25 UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE 20:36:28 JUST RECENTLY THAT WE NOW PROMOTE PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:33 I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN TRADITION. 20:36:36 WE IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS DECLARED WAR IN THE DEFENSE OF 20:36:40 OUR LIBERTIES OR GO TO AID OF SOMEBODY. 20:36:43 BUT NOW WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF PREEMPTIVE WAR. 20:36:46 WE HAVE REJECTED THE JUST-WAR THEORY OF CHRISTIANITY. 20:36:50 AND NOW, TONIGHT, WE HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO REMOVE 20:36:55 FROM THE TABLE A PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST THE 20:36:59 COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NO HARM TO US DIRECTLY IN OUR -- IS NO 20:37:03 THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME TO OUR 20:37:08 SENSES ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF WAR AND PREEMPTION AND GO BACK TO 20:37:14 TRADITIONS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND 20:37:17 DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. BUT NOT TO THINK THAT WE CAN 20:37:20 CHANGE THE WORLD BY FORCE OF ARMS AND TO START WARS. 20:37:23 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. SENATOR BROWNBACK REALLY WANTS 20:37:27 TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. 20:37:30 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M A PHILOSOPHER. 20:37:32 I THINK IT'S THE LIFE ISSUE, CLEARLY. 20:37:35 AND I'M PRO-LIFE AND I'M WHOLE LIFE. 20:37:37 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THE MOST, THE PROUDEST ABOUT OUR 20:37:41 PARTY ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE STOOD FOR LIFE. 20:37:42 WE'VE BEEN A PARTY THAT HAS STOOD FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE. 20:37:46 AND IT WAS IN OUR PLATFORM IN 1980 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 20:37:51 AND WITH THAT RESPECT, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY OTHER 20:37:54 COLLEAGUES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY 20:37:57 THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE IN THIS PARTY. 20:37:59 BECAUSE IT IS AT OUR CORE. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY LIFE IS 20:38:02 BEAUTIFUL, IS SACRED, IS A CHILD OF A LOVING GOD, FROM NATURAL -- 20:38:06 FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. 20:38:08 AND THAT APPLIES NOT ONLY HERE AND IN THE WOMB, IT APPLIES TO 20:38:12 SOMEBODY THAT'S IN POVERTY, IT APPLIES TO THE CHILD IN DARFUR. 20:38:15 AND THAT PHILOSOPHY, BEING PRO-LIFE AND WHOLE LIFE, IS 20:38:19 SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY HELP MOVE US FORWARD AS A 20:38:22 COUNTRY AND AS A PARTY. >> SENATOR, IF RUDY GIULIANI GOT 20:38:25 THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO 20:38:27 SUPPORT HIM? >> THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT THE 20:38:33 FIRST DEBATE AND I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A 20:38:36 PARTY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 20:38:38 MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO 20:38:41 NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PRO-LIFE. 20:38:42 >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIM? 20:38:44 >> I CAN SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OF OUR 20:38:47 PARTY. BUT OUR PARTY HAS STOOD ON 20:38:49 PRINCIPLES. IT'S A PARTY OF PRINCIPLES. 20:38:51 IT'S NOT A PARTY OF PERSONALITIES. 20:38:55 >> THANK YOU. >> WE LOSE WHEN WE WALK AWAY 20:38:56 FROM OUR PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE. 20:38:58 THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS US TO DO IS STAND FOR PRINCIPLES. 20:39:01 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM NEIL. 20:39:04 YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AGENT. >> YES, I AM. 20:39:06 >> YOU LIVE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:08 YOU HAVE A QUESTION TONIGHT FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY. 20:39:10 >> YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL 20:39:12 FOR JOINING US IN BEAUTIFUL MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. 20:39:15 HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR ROMNEY EXCLUSIVELY. 20:39:17 YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF -- YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF FLIP FLOPPING ON 20:39:24 IMMIGRATION. JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU 20:39:27 INDICATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'D WANT THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE 20:39:31 OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE ENGLISH. 20:39:35 HOWEVER, WHY ARE YOU AIRING ADS? SPANISH? 20:39:38 >> GOVERNOR, LET ME ALSO ADD SOMETHING ON THIS. 20:39:41 YOUR CAMPAIGN PROVIDES A SPANISH-SPEAKING VERSION WITH 20:39:44 YOUR WEBSITE WITH YOUR SON ALSO SPEAKING IN SPANISH. 20:39:46 >> YES. LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR. 20:39:50 I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT. I LOVE IMMIGRANTS. 20:39:52 I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO OUR COUNTRY. 20:39:55 I'M HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND I HOPE THEY VOTE FOR ME. 20:39:57 AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING 20:40:01 TO REACH OUT TO THEM IN ANY LANGUAGE I CAN TO HAVE THEM VOTE 20:40:03 FOR ME AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING THIS A 20:40:06 GREAT LAND. I'LL TELL YOU AS WELL, I VERY 20:40:11 FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE OUR 20:40:13 BORDERS. THAT WE HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT 20:40:15 VERIFICATION SYSTEM AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE 20:40:19 ILLEGALLY DO NOT GET AN ADVANTAGE TO BECOME PERMANENT 20:40:22 RESIDENTS. THEY DO NOT GET A SPECIAL 20:40:25 PATHWAY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. 20:40:26 THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE BILL, THE KENNEDY-McCAIN 20:40:30 BILL. THAT'S THE MISTAKE IN MY VIEW. 20:40:31 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE BROADER ISSUE. 20:40:34 WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES AS THEY RELATE TO 20:40:36 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 20:40:39 BUT WE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES. 20:40:41 WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO STAND FOR IS MORE THAN SOLVING 20:40:45 PROBLEMS. IN THE 19th CENTURY, THE NEW 20:40:47 FRONTIER FOR US WAS THE AMERICAN WEST. 20:40:48 IN THE 20th CENTURY, IT WAS THE EUROPE SELLING PRODUCTS TO 20:40:53 EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. NOW ASIA HAS COME OUT OF 20:40:57 POVERTY. A BILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE STEEPED 20:40:58 IN POVERTY ARE COMING OUT OF POVERTY. 20:41:00 THEY'RE CONSUMERS. WE CAN SELL PRODUCTS TO THEM, 20:41:03 MEDICINES, TECHNOLOGY. ENERGY. 20:41:05 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> WE HAVE A PARTY OF THE 20:41:07 FUTURE. AND WE HAVE TO STOP TO WORRYING 20:41:09 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND THINK WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE. 20:41:11 WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE 20:41:14 AMERICA A GREAT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 20:41:16 >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, WOULD YOU 20:41:21 ADVERTISE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN IN SPANISH? 20:41:23 SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO THE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED COMMENT 20:41:26 YOU RECENTLY MADE THAT MIAMI WAS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 20:41:30 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, I WOULD NOT ADVERTISE IN 20:41:33 SPANISH. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, 20:41:35 ENGLISH -- THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS 20:41:37 IMPORTANT FOR US FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 20:41:40 IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. 20:41:42 IT IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS A COUNTRY TOGETHER. 20:41:44 ANY COUNTRY. BILINGUAL COUNTRIES DON'T WORK. 20:41:48 AND WE SHOULD NOT ENGCOURAGE IT. AND EVEN IN THE BILL THAT 20:41:51 SENATOR McCAIN IS PUSHING, HE SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS -- HE 20:41:55 SUPPORTS ENGLISH ONLY OR OFFICIAL ENGLISH, DOESN'T GO ON 20:41:58 TO TELL THAT, OF COURSE, HE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CODIFY 20:42:03 PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ORIGINAL PLAN, ORIGINAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, 20:42:06 A SIGN THAT SAYS ALL PAPERS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE 20:42:09 TO BE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 20:42:13 ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY. 20:42:16 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT. 20:42:18 IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT HOLDS US ALL TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF 20:42:21 WHERE WE COME FROM. >> THANK YOU. 20:42:23 >> REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS AND HISTORIES, IT DOESN'T 20:42:27 MATTER. WE NEED THAT THICK THING TO HOLD 20:42:30 US TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:42:33 SENATOR McCAIN, I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND. 20:42:35 >> FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNOR, MUCHOS GRACIAS. 20:42:40 WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. THERE IS, INDEED, A SPECIAL 20:42:45 PATH. IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD. 20:42:48 IT'S 8 TO 13 YEARS. MY FRIENDS, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE 20:42:51 TALKING ABOUT. THE LATE I WAVE OF MIGRANTS INTO 20:42:53 THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL 20:42:57 IMMIGRATION. BUT WE'VE HAD WAVES THROUGHOUT 20:42:59 OUR HISTORY. HISPANICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 20:43:01 ABOUT, A DIFFERENT CULTURE, A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WHICH HAS 20:43:05 ENRICHED MY STATE WHERE SPANISH WAS SPOKEN BEFORE ENGLISH WAS. 20:43:09 MY FRIENDS, I WANT YOU TO NEXT TIME YOU'RE DOWN IN WASHINGTON, 20:43:12 D.C., TO GO TO THE VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL. 20:43:15 AND LOOK AT THE NAMES ENGRAVED IN BLACK GRANITE. 20:43:18 YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT OF HISPANIC NAMES. 20:43:21 WHEN YOU GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TODAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:43:24 TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF HISPANIC BACKGROUND. 20:43:28 YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO MEET SOME OF THE FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE 20:43:31 STILL GREEN-CARDHOLDERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN CITIZENS OF THIS 20:43:35 COUNTRY, WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO 20:43:39 RISK THEIR LIVES IN ITS SERVICE IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THEIR 20:43:43 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL BLESSED NATION. 20:43:50 SO LET'S FROM TIME TO TIME REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE GOD'S 20:43:53 CHILDREN. THEY MUST COME INTO OUR COUNTRY 20:43:55 LEGALLY, BUT THEY HAVE ENRICHED OUR CULTURE AND OUR NATION, AS 20:43:58 EVERY GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS BEFORE THEM. 20:44:00 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 20:44:04 >> JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, GOOD EVENING, TO YOU, 20:44:08 SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. 20:44:09 >> YOU LIVE IN MASON NAME. WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:44:11 >> I WORK SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. 20:44:15 >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION DON'T? >> IN 2006 WE SAW THE FIRST -- 20:44:18 THE WORST REPUBLICAN DEFEAT IN LIVING MEMORY. 20:44:20 IF WE DO MORE OF THE SAME, WHY DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT? 20:44:25 I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WHY THEIR POSITION 20:44:28 IS -- OR HOW THEIR POSITION DIFFERS FROM THE PRESENT 20:44:32 ADMINISTRATION'S SO WE WON'T SEE A REPEAT OF 2006 AND 2008. 20:44:35 >> SENATOR McCAIN, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THIS ONE? 20:44:38 >> SPENDING. SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, 20:44:42 WHICH LED TO CORRUPTION. WE HAVE MEMBERS, FORMER MEMBERS 20:44:45 OF CONGRESS IN JAIL AS WE SPEAK BECAUSE THIS EARMARKING. 20:44:48 WE LET SPENDING GET OUT OF CONTROL. 20:44:50 WE PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 20:44:53 GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GREAT SOCIETY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS AND 20:44:57 OUR REPUBLICANS BECAME DISPIRITED AND DISENCHANTED. 20:45:00 WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE EARMARKING. 20:45:03 THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. WITH 233 MILES. 20:45:09 $233 MILLION BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND IN ALASKA WITH 50 PEOPLE ON IT 20:45:13 WAS THE TIPPING POINT. I WANT TO PROMISE YOU, AS 20:45:16 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'LL VETO EVERY BILL THAT HAS A 20:45:20 PORK-BARREL PROJECT ON IT AND I'LL MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT 20:45:24 FAMOUS AND WE'LL GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND WE'LL STOP THE 20:45:26 CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON. >> IF ALL OF YOU WILL -- IF ALL 20:45:29 OF YOU WILL LIMIT YOUR ANSWER TO ABOUT 10 OR 15 SECONDS, WE'LL GO 20:45:33 DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT HAS BEEN 20:45:37 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE SINCE TAKING OFFICE? 20:45:40 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT JOHN IS SAYING. 20:45:42 THE THING THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENT IS -- 20:45:45 I WOULD ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY IN WASHINGTON. 20:45:47 WASHINGTON IS A MESS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 20:45:51 REPUBLICANS LOST. REPUBLICANS BECAME DEMOCRATS. 20:45:53 I WOULD ESTABLISH PROGRAMS LIKE I DID IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE I 20:45:57 HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HEAVILY DEMOCRAT CITY, PROGRAMS TO 20:46:02 MEASURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU GET WHAT YOU MEASURE. 20:46:05 IF YOU DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FAILURE. 20:46:08 I CAN TURN AROUND NEW YORK, I CAN TURN AROUND WASHINGTON. 20:46:11 >> GO AHEAD, GOVERNOR. >> IT'S GOING FROM SMALL BORE TO 20:46:15 LARGE BORE. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S SPENDING 20:46:17 AND YES, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS WE 20:46:20 HAVE. BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A 20:46:21 PARTY OF THE FUTURE AND WITH A VISION. 20:46:23 RONALD RAG00 A VISION FOR WHERE HE WAS GOING TO TAKE AMERICA. 20:46:27 WE HAVE TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE PEOPLE FORWARD AND THAT VISION 20:46:30 IS THE NEW FRONTIER OF THE 21st CENTURY. 20:46:32 OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES CAN LEAD THE WORLD. 20:46:33 >> SENATOR? >> SPENDING. 20:46:35 BUT BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S HOPE AND IDEAS. 20:46:38 I HAVE WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE LINE HERE. 20:46:41 TAKING ON CANCER AND DEATHS BY CANCER, AND ENDING DEATHS BY 20:46:45 CANCER IN TEN YEARS. THE LEADING CAUSE OF FEAR IN 20:46:48 AMERICA TODAY IS THAT YOU'LL GET CANCER. 20:46:50 AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR REACH. 20:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING I CAN 20:46:55 THINK WE CAN GO AT AND SHOULD GO AT AND IT TOUCHES A LOT OF 20:46:59 AMERICANS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS 20:47:02 PRESIDENT BUSH'S BIGGEST MISTAKE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS? 20:47:05 >> BECAUSE WE WENT TO WASHINGTON TO CHANGE WASHINGTON. 20:47:07 WASHINGTON CHANGED US. WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH NEW 20:47:09 IDEAS. WE GOT TO TRANSFORM HEALTH CARE. 20:47:11 WE GOT TO -- WE GOT TO WIND DOWN THE WAR IN IRAQ. 20:47:14 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE CONSERVATIVES. 20:47:17 IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, LIKE FOOLISHLY AND AS STUPIDLY 20:47:20 AS THE DEMOCRATS, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20:47:25 PROFESSIONAL VOTERS. THE DEMOCRATS. 20:47:27 NOT THE AMATEUR SPENDERS, THE REPUBLICANS. 20:47:29 >> CONGRESSMAN? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, 20:47:32 IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT RAN 20:47:34 AS A CONSERVATIVE AND GOVERNED AS A LIBERAL. 20:47:38 THAT IS WHAT HAS REALLY BEEN THE BASIS, I THINK OF THE DISTRUST 20:47:41 THAT HAS DEVELOPED AMONG THE REPUBLICAN BASE. 20:47:44 IT'S WELL FOUNDED. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 20:47:46 THAT. >> THANK YOU. 20:47:49 CONGRESSMAN PAUL? >> THE PRESIDENT RAN ON A 20:47:52 PROGRAM OF A HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, NO NATION BUILDING AND 20:47:55 NO POLICING OF THE WORLD. AND HE CHANGED HIS TUNE. 20:47:58 AND NOW WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AND OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 20:48:02 AROUND THE WORLD TO MAINTAIN OUR EMPIRE IS NOW APPROACHING $1 20:48:08 TRILLION A YEAR. >> YOU CAN THANK YOU. 20:48:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO 20:48:11 BE CUT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE THAT 20:48:14 IS NEEDED HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:17 GOVERNOR GILMORE. >> WOLF, LET ME ANSWER THE 20:48:19 QUESTION. PRINCIPLE IS THE DIFFERENCE. 20:48:21 REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY OF PRINCIPLE AND WHEN WE 20:48:25 DEVIATE FROM THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES REMEMBER. 20:48:27 LET ME SAY THIS -- NUMBER ONE, ON THE ISSUE OF 20:48:29 IMMIGRATION. IT VIOLATES THE PRINCIPLE OF THE 20:48:32 RULE OF LAW, AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL AND SUPPORT IT AS 20:48:37 REPUBLICANS, WE WILL LOSE AGAIN. SPENDING, IF WE CONTINUE TO 20:48:40 EARMARK AND SPEND AND SPEND, WE WILL BE VIOLATING OUR 20:48:43 PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU. 20:48:44 >> AND FINALLY ON TAXES, THE PRESIDENT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TAX 20:48:47 PROGRAM AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT'S NOT ONLY HELPED THE 20:48:49 ECONOMY BUT HELPED REGULAR PEOPLE AND HILLARY CLINTON IS 20:48:51 WRONG WHEN SHE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE TAX CUTS. 20:48:54 >> THANK YOU. CONGRESSMAN? 20:48:57 >> YOU KNOW, WOLF, WHEN MY SON RETURN FROD FALLUJAH, HE WROTE 20:49:02 THESE WORDS. HE SAID FAMILIES LIFT OUR NATION 20:49:05 UP. THEY PROVIDE US WITH FIDELITY, 20:49:08 MORALITY AND FAITH IN GOD AND RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF 20:49:11 AMERICANS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO 20:49:13 REUNITE WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY AND PASS POLICIES THAT ARE 20:49:16 CONSTANT WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 20:49:18 THEN WE'LL BE A GREAT PARTY AGAIN. 20:49:19 >> GOVERNOR? >> I THINK THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA 20:49:21 ARE PRETTY SMART. AND THE FACT IS THEY KNOW THAT 20:49:25 IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE TAXATION AND A TAX SYSTEM THAT LITERALLY 20:49:28 STEPS ON THEIR HEAD AND THEY HAVE A REGULATION SYSTEM THAT 20:49:31 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COMPETE, AND THEN 20:49:35 WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE 20:49:38 CONFIDENCE IN, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LITIGATION THAT 20:49:42 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE 20:49:46 IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. THE RESULT IS A JOB MIGRATION. 20:49:49 AND IF YOU ASK WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PROBLEM WAS? 20:49:51 IT'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP US 20:49:54 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS WERE AND HOW WE NEEDED TO SOLVE 20:49:58 THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 20:49:59 >> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO JENNIFER. 20:50:03 >> ERIN GARDNER IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? 20:50:06 >> YES, I DO. >> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TONIGHT? 20:50:08 >> WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN YOUR 20:50:11 OPINION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:50:14 WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE ATTRIBUTES OF AN 20:50:17 AMERICAN? >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO? 20:50:20 >> IT MEANS, NUMBER ONE, CUT FROM THE PAST. 20:50:22 IF YOU COME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT, GREAT. 20:50:25 WELCOME. IF YOU COME HERE LEGALLY, 20:50:27 WELCOME. IT MEANS YOU CUT YOUR TIES WITH 20:50:29 THE PAST. FAMILIAL, ESPECIALLY POLITICAL 20:50:33 TIES FROM THE COUNTRY FROM WHENCE YOU CAME. 20:50:36 BUT LET'S BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU GUYS. 20:50:38 WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE WANT. 20:50:41 AND WHAT IT'S GOT TO GET DOWN TO THIS IS THIS -- 20:50:45 ARE WE READY FOR A TIME-OUT? ARE WE ACTUALLY READY TO SAY 20:50:49 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? WE HAVE TO STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL 20:50:53 IMMIGRATION EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AS 20:50:55 IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND AS REFUGEES? 20:50:58 ARE WE WILLING TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND SAY ENOUGH -- WE HAVE 20:51:01 GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILAING PEOPLE 20:51:05 WHO HAVE COME IN THIS GREAT WAVE OF IMMIGRATION? 20:51:08 THE PROCESS OF ASSIMILATION IS NOT GOING ON. 20:51:11 AND HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US FOR US 20:51:14 TO CATCH UP WITH THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE BOTH 20:51:16 LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY AND ASSIMILATE THEM? 20:51:18 I TELL YOU THIS, IT WILL TAKE US THIS LONG. 20:51:21 UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH AND TWO FOR ANY 20:51:24 OTHER LANGUAGE. >> I PROMISE, GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, 20:51:27 YOU'D HAVE TO CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE. 20:51:30 DO YOU AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO THAT THE U.S. SHOULD 20:51:35 EFFECTIVELY END MOST LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE COUNTRY? 20:51:38 >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER 20:51:40 OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD WELCOME INTO THIS COUNTRY. 20:51:44 AND IT'S CERTAINLY ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WE 20:51:47 MAY NEED LEGALLY COMING HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE A 20:51:50 BORDER THAT IS SEALED AND THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WE 20:51:54 HAVE TO GO TO IF WE GO THROUGH IN A STADIUM, WE GO IN ONE AT A 20:51:58 TIME AND WE HAVE A TICKET. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK 20:52:03 AMERICANS ARE REALLY ASKING US FOR IS A SANE, SENSIBLE SYSTEM 20:52:06 THAT'S BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IF YOU COME HERE, AND YOU COME HERE 20:52:10 FLEW THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GO 20:52:13 THROUGH IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING 20:52:18 TODAY. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, ARE YOU 20:52:20 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT CONGRESSMAN TAN DRADE DOUGH SAYS 20:52:22 ABOUT IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY? 20:52:24 >> I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. 20:52:27 IT'S ONE THING TO DEBATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT'S A COMPLEX 20:52:30 SUBJECT AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT AND I THINK 20:52:34 IT SHOULD BE FIXED THE WAY I'VE TALKED ABOUT. 20:52:38 ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEFINED BETTER THAN I'M ABLE TO DO OR 20:52:42 CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO OR ANYONE ON THE STAGE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN 20:52:46 SAID BEING AN AMERICAN IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAME OVER HERE ON 20:52:48 THE MAYFLOWER OR YOU CAME HERE YESTERDAY. 20:52:51 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM? 20:52:52 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION? 20:52:53 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM FOR WOMEN? 20:52:55 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO VOTE? 20:52:58 HOW MUCH DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW? 20:52:59 THE PERSON THAT BELIEVES THAT IN THE MOST IS THE BEST AMERICAN. 20:53:02 AND THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T ISN'T AN AMERICAN. 20:53:05 AND THAT'S ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S WORDS. 20:53:08 WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. 20:53:09 IT REFORMS US. IT MAKES US BETTER. 20:53:11 IT BRINGS US PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIVE FOR 20:53:15 THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. IF WE LOSE THAT, WE LOSE THE 20:53:19 GENUS WHICH HAS MADE AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 20:53:20 >> I WILL GO BACK TO JENNIFER IN A SECOND. 20:53:23 BUT I WANT SENATOR McCAIN TO RESPOND AS WELL. 20:53:25 WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO SAYS, WHAT GOES THROUGH 20:53:29 YOUR MIND? >> IT'S BEYOND MY REALM OF 20:53:35 THINKING. LOOK, AMERICA IS A LAND OF 20:53:38 OPPORTUNITY. A QUESTION WAS JUTVE JUST 20:53:40 ASKED -- WHAT IS IT TO BE AN AMERICAN? 20:53:42 IT'S TO SHARE A COMMON GOAL THAT OF US, A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE 20:53:46 CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN 20:53:52 INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE BETTER LIFE 20:53:56 FOR OURSELVES AND YOUR ON OUR CHILDREN. 20:53:58 AND THE LADY THAT HOLDS HER LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN DOOR IS STILL 20:54:01 THE IDEAL AND THE DREAM. OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE LEGAL. 20:54:04 OF COURSE THAT IT HAS TO BE REGULATED AND 18 MONTHS BY THE 20:54:10 WAY, WILL GO BY WHILE WE FIX THE BORDER BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING 20:54:13 ELSE ON THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. 20:54:15 >> BUT AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. 20:54:18 AND IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND LIBERTY AND AS RONALD REAGAN 20:54:22 SAID, A SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. 20:54:25 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ERECT 20:54:29 BARRIERS AND FENCES. >> GO AHEAD, JENNIFER? 20:54:32 >> YOU ARE A STATE LEGISLATOR. WHAT IS YOUR HOMETOWN? 20:54:34 >> HOLLIS. >> AND WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? 20:54:36 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO INCLUDE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND TO 20:54:43 BRING BACK TO THE PARTY THOSE INDEPENDENTS WHO WERE FORMERLY 20:54:46 REGISTERED REPUBLICANS? >> GOVERNOR GILMORE? 20:54:53 TO YOU. >> GREAT QUESTION. 20:54:54 WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, I WAS TOLD THAT A 20:54:59 CONSERVATIVE COULDN'T APPEAL TO MODERATE AREAS IN THE STATE OF 20:55:02 VIRGINIA. AND I REJECTED THAT. 20:55:03 BECAUSE I BELIEVED THE CONSERVATISM STILL STANDS FOR 20:55:06 ALL PEOPLE. IT STANDS FOR EVERYONE. 20:55:08 IT GOES TO THIS QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING ABOUT. 20:55:11 WHAT'S AN AMERICAN? AN AMERICAN IS SOMEONE WHO'S 20:55:15 NOBLE. SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN 20:55:17 THEMSELVES AND THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SOMEONE THAT THE 20:55:19 REST OF THE WORLD CAN LOOK UP TO AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN 20:55:21 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND WHEN I RAN FOR GOVERNOR, I 20:55:24 WENT TO THE MODERATE COMMUNITIES AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO 20:55:27 TALK ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20:55:31 GETTING BACK MORE TAX MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 20:55:33 VALUE THAT IS YOURS AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, TO DECIDE WHERE 20:55:35 YOUR CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN 20:55:38 PAY THE TUITIONS OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY THE MORTGAGES AND YOU 20:55:41 EARN THIS MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT YOU 20:55:43 HAVE TO PAY TAXES. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE 20:55:46 OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AS A TAXPAYER. 20:55:50 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:55:52 >> WOLF, CAN I -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. 20:55:55 CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE ARNOLD 20:55:58 SCHWARZENEGGER, YOUR GOVERNOR IN CALIFORNIA, HAS BECOME VERY 20:56:00 POPULAR OUT THERE BY BRINGING IN INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES AND 20:56:06 TRYING TO FORGE A CONSENSUS AMONG REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. 20:56:12 SHOULDN'T THE GOP NATIONALLY BE FOLLOWING THE ARNOLD 20:56:15 SCHWARZENEGGER EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA? 20:56:17 >> NO. AND LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I 20:56:20 LOOK AT -- I LOOK AT GOVERNOR ROMNEY, MAYOR GIULIANI, MY GOOD 20:56:25 FRIEND, JOHN McCAIN. GOVERNOR ROMNEY JOINED WITH BILL 20:56:28 CLINTON FOR THE 1994 GUN BAN WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THAT. 20:56:33 MAYOR GIULIANI STOOD WITH HIM AT THE WHITE HOUSE ON THAT. 20:56:36 GOVERNOR ROMNEY HAS PASSED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MAJOR STEP 20:56:40 TOWARD SOCIALISM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HIS MANDATED HEALTHCARE 20:56:44 BILL. JOHN McCAIN IS STANDING STRONG 20:56:46 WITH TED KENNEDY ON THIS -- ON THIS KENNEDY-McCAIN-BUSH BORDER 20:56:53 ENFORCEMENT BILL. I THINK THE GUY WHO'S GOT THE 20:56:57 MOST INFLUENCE WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IS TED KENNEDY AND I 20:57:00 THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KENNEDY WING ON THE 20:57:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> I GOT TO LET ALL THREE OF 20:57:04 THEM RESPOND. GOVERNOR, ROMNEY, GO AHEAD, 20:57:06 FIRST, BUT DO IT VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE MODEL FOR HOW THE 20:57:12 REPUBLICAN PARTY WINS AND WINS MODERATES, DEMOCRATS, 20:57:15 INDEPENDENTS, CONSERVATIVES IS WHO? 20:57:17 RONALD REAGAN. HE DID IT. 20:57:19 RONALD REAGAN WON IN MASSACHUSETTS. 20:57:21 BOTH TIMES HE RAN. HOW DID HE DO THAT? 20:57:24 HE HAD A STOOL HE SAT ON THAT HAD THREE LEGS. 20:57:27 ONE WAS A STRONG MILITARY. AND TODAY A STRONG MILITARY 20:57:31 MEANS MORE TROOPS, MORE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE OUR TROOPS ARE 20:57:33 CARED FOR IN THE BATTLEFIELD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND 20:57:36 THE VETERANS RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET 20:57:38 HOME. STRONG MILITARY. 20:57:40 STRONG ECONOMY. KEEPING OUR TAXES DOWN AND 20:57:43 KEEPING AND VALUES AND STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND THAT'S THE 20:57:47 STOOL WITH ALL THREE LEGS. AND ONE MORE THING, OPTIMISM 20:57:50 WITH A FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. 20:57:52 I WANT YOU TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE HEARD 20:57:54 FROM CONGRESSMAN HUNTER. >> I THINK, MA'AM, THE WAY TO 20:57:57 ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT IS TO NOMINATE ME. 20:57:59 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK -- AND I THINK THE 20:58:02 REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN UNITE AROUND TWO MAJOR PRINCIPLES THAT 20:58:05 ARE BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. BEING ON OFFENSE AGAINST 20:58:10 TERRORISM, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ON DEFENSE AGAINST 20:58:12 TERRORISM. YOU SAW THAT TWO NIGHTS AGO. 20:58:14 ISLAMIC TERRORISM. IT'S OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. 20:58:17 THEY COULDN'T UTTER. THEY NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN 20:58:19 STAND UP TO THAT. AND SECOND, SOMEBODY THAT WILL 20:58:21 BE ON OFFENSE FOR A GROWTH ECONOMY. 20:58:23 FIGHT THIS IMPULSE TO RAISE TAXES, DO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. 20:58:26 PUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PRINCIPLES 20:58:29 THAT UNITE US AND MAKE US THE MAJORITY PARTY. 20:58:31 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT SOME 20:58:33 OF OUR DIFFERENCES. SENATOR McCAIN? 20:58:36 >> PROTECT THE FAMILY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS EARLIER. 20:58:40 PROTECT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY. IT'S UNDER ASSAULT IN MANY 20:58:43 RESPECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW. AND, SECOND, TAKE THE LEAD IN 20:58:49 FIGHTING THIS TRAN SCENDANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 20:58:55 RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. IT'S A FOREIGN EVIL WITHIN OUR 20:59:00 SHORES. LOOK AT THE LAST FEW DAYS AT 20:59:03 JFK, THE ATTEMPT AT FT. DIX. THE LONDON SUICIDE
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[REPUBLICAN DEBATE] [MANCHESTER, NH USA] REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE SPONSORED BY CNN JUNE 5, 2007 SPEAKERS: SEN. SAM BROWNBACK, R-KAN. REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, R-CALIF. FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ. REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-COLO. FORMER MAYOR RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, R-NEW YORK CITY REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS FORMER GOV. TOMMY G. THOMPSON, R-WIS FORMER GOV. JAMES S. GILMORE III, R-VA. FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R-ARK. WOLF BLITZER, MODERATOR SCOTT SPRADLING, WMUR-TV JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR-TV TOM FAHEY, NEW HAMPSHIRE UNION LEADER What should we here in the United States be doing to bring down the price of prescription drugs? HUNTER: And, Wolf, the fabulous Grampy, my father-in-law, who lives with us, is one of those people that trots down and goes through the border at Yuma and does that. So lots of Americans do that. HUNTER: But here's what happens. Eighty percent of the new drugs and new inventions that save our lives, that help preserve the lives of the relatives of everyone who's in this particular room right now, 80 percent of those inventions are made in the United States because we have free enterprise, where people can go out, invest. And maybe they drill three dry holes in trying to produce a good drug that will save somebody's lives. Then maybe they hit the jackpot and they produce something that will save people and help their health. They then recover their money in the United States. And what they have left over, in terms of market, they put into the Third World. But Third World countries like Mexico could never provide the amount of money that it takes to make those inventions. Otherwise, they would. Here's what we have to do: We need to be able to buy our health care insurance across state lines, Wolf. Right now the same single policy that can be purchased in Long Beach for $73 costs $334 in New Jersey. The states lock up the insurance industry. They won't let Americans buy across state lines, just like they do everything else. If we're able to do that... BLITZER: Thank you. HUNTER: ... we're going to bring down the cost of health insurance. BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. BLITZER: Jennifer, let's go back to another question. VAUGHN: Also on the topic of health care tonight, this is a question from our wmur.gather.com blogger, who is Joshua Williamson. Joshua asks, "Millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the current state of our health-care system, and U.S. employers are at a disadvantage due to the high cost of health insurance. What would you do to fix the health-care system? And would you support implementing a single-payer system, in which the government acts as the insurer in order to save enough money to cover the millions of uninsured and to lower premiums for the rest of the U.S. population?" Governor Thompson, let's have you weigh in on that. THOMPSON: You know, I've been here for two debates. We never had one question on health care. Thank that person for talking about health care. Number one, we spend $2 trillion on health care. That's 16 percent of the gross national product. Ninety-three percent of the cost of health care goes into waiting until after you become sick. Only 7 percent of the money is used to keep you well in the first place. THOMPSON: We got to completely transform the health care system, make it a wellness system and make it a prevention system. Secondly, we have 125 million Americans that have one or more chronic illnesses. In order to change this, we have to educate the American people about tobacco, about diabetes, about cardiovascular and about obesity. You do that, you'll be able to change health care. The third thing, 25 percent of Americans use two-thirds of the cost of health care. If you manage those diseases, you can reduce that down to 50 percent and save lots of money. Fourth, information technology, electronic medical record, a patient bill of rights and be able to have e-prescribing. And if you do that, you're going to be able to save billions of dollars. If you just go paperless, ladies and gentlemen, you will save 10 percent of the cost of health care. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Governor, very much. Governor Romney, you worked with the Democrats in the state legislature in your home state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You worked with Ted Kennedy to come up with a program that provides some -- mandates, in effect, the individual health insurance coverage. BLITZER: Some conservatives say this is simply big government, more liberal involvement in people's lives. What do you say to those conservatives who are critical of the way you handled this issue in Massachusetts? ROMNEY: Well, I want to talk to the people, not just to those conservatives who are critical. And the people of this country recognize they've got some real concerns in health care. And I learned after I was governor a short bit of time -- I talked to people and they say, "If I lose my job, I'm going to lose my insurance. And my insurance premiums are getting higher and higher and higher." And I talked to small-business people, and they said, "I can't afford the policies anymore." And we said, "You know, we've got to find a way to get everybody insured. And the last thing we want is to have the government take over health care, because anything they take over gets worse, not better. "We're going to turn to Washington, because Washington makes a mess. Washington is all talk. And we said, "We need to find a way to get everybody in our state insured with private insurance." The half a million who didn't have insurance, all the people worried that if they lost their job, they'd lose insurance, we said, "We've got to find a way to get them insured without raising taxes, without a government takeover." ROMNEY: And that's what we did. It relies on personal responsibility. This is a big issue for this country. Every Democrat up there is talking about a form of socialized medicine, government takeover, massive tax increase. We have to stand up and not just talk about it. I'm the guy who actually tackled this issue. We get all of our citizens insured. We get people that were uninsured with private health insurance. We have to stand up and say, "The market works. Personal responsibility works." We're going to have insurance for all of our citizens they can afford, that's theirs, that's portable. They never have to worry about losing it. That's the answer. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Thank you, Wolf. Next question comes from you, sir. Your name is Max Latona. QUESTION: Yes, it is. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. What do you do for a living, sir? QUESTION: I teach philosophy here at Saint Anselm College. VAUGHN: And what's your question tonight? QUESTION: My question is a simple one: In your opinion, what is the most pressing moral issue facing this country today? And, if you're elected president, how would you address that issue? VAUGHN: Governor Huckabee, you are an ordained minister. What is the most pressing moral issue in this country? HUCKABEE: Well, it looks like I'm getting all the moral questions tonight, and I guess that's a good thing. (LAUGHTER) That's better than getting the immoral questions. So I'm happy to get those. (LAUGHTER) HUCKABEE: I really believe that, if you define it a moral issue, it is our respect, our sanctity and our understanding of the value of every single human life. Because that is what makes America a unique place on this planet: We value every life of an individual as if it represents the life of us all. Many of us who are pro-life, quite frankly, I think, have made the mistake of giving people the impression that pro-life means we care intensely about people as long as that child is in the womb. But beyond the gestation period, we've not demonstrated as demonstrably as we should that we respect life at all levels, not just during pregnancy. We shouldn't allow a child to live under a bridge or in the backseat of a car. We shouldn't be satisfied that elderly people are being abused and neglected in nursing homes. It should never be acceptable to us that people are treated as expendable -- any people. But the unique part of our country is that we elevate and we celebrate human life. And if you look at us with a contrast to the Islamic jihadists, who would strap a bomb to the belly of their own child, march him into a crowded room, set the detonator and kill innocent people, they celebrate death; we celebrate life. It's the fundamental thing that makes us unique, and it keeps us free. I pray we never, ever abandon that basic principle. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, what is the most pressing moral issue in America today? GIULIANI: I think the governor is correct. I would put it in maybe a slightly different way. We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God. We have a country in which we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom for the individual, the right to elect our own officials. And the reality is that in some of the world, much of the world, that doesn't exist. And I think the challenge for our generation is going to be, are we able to share those gifts in an appropriate way with the rest of the world? If we can bring along the Middle East, if we can bring along those countries that are presently our enemies, and get them to see the values of these ideals, if we have the moral strength to be able to explain it to them in the way Ronald Reagan was able to do with communism, then we can end up having the peace that we want. And we should not -- we should never become pessimistic about this. Remember, this is the country that was at war with Vietnam just a short while ago. We're friends now. BLITZER: All right. GIULIANI: This was a country that was at war with Japan, Italy and Germany a generation ago. They're some of our best friends today. We have great resources in this country. And watching the strength of America when we believe in the essential ideals that we have -- they're not just American ideals; they come from God. And I think it's our moral obligation to find the right way to share that with the rest of the world. BLITZER: Thank you, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Congressman Paul, what is the most pressing moral issue in the United States right now? PAUL: I think it is the acceptance just recently that we now promote preemptive war. I do not believe that's part of the American tradition. We, in the past, have always declared war in defense of our liberties or go to aid somebody. But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war. We have rejected the just war theory of Christianity. And now, tonight, we hear that we're not even willing to remove from the table a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. PAUL: I mean, we have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our Constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights, but not to think that we can change the world by force of arms and to start wars. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you, Congressman. Senator Brownback really wants to weigh in, as well. BROWNBACK: Thank you. And thank you for the question from a philosopher. I think it's the life issue clearly, and I'm pro-life and I'm whole life. And one of the things I'm the most -- the proudest about our party about is that we've stood for life. We've been a party that has stood for a culture of life. And it was in our platform in 1980, and it continues today. And with that respect -- and I have respect for my other colleagues -- that's why I don't think we can nominate somebody that's not pro-life in this party, because it is at our core. BROWNBACK: We believe that every life is beautiful, is sacred, is a child of a loving God from natural -- from conception to natural death. And that applies not only here and in the womb, it applies to somebody that's in poverty, it applies to the child in Darfur. And that philosophy, being pro-life and whole life, is something I think can really help move us forward as a country and as a party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator, if Rudy Giuliani got the Republican presidential nomination, would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: That question came up at the first debate, and I stated that this is something that we as a party have struggled with. I have great respect for the mayor. I don't think we're going to nominate somebody that's not pro-life. BLITZER: Would you be able to support him? BROWNBACK: I can support and will support the nominee of our party. But our party has stood on principles. It's a party of principles. It's not a party of personalities. We lose when we walk away from our principles. BROWNBACK: That's when we have trouble. And that's the country wants us to do... BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. BROWNBACK: ... is to stand for principles. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: Next question tonight from Neil Capano. Neil, you are an airline agent. QUESTION: Yes, I am. VAUGHN: You live in Manchester, New Hampshire. You have a question tonight for Governor Romney. QUESTION: Yes, I do. First of all, I would like to thank all of you for joining us tonight in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire. However, my question is for Governor Romney exclusively. You've been accused of -- you've been accused of flip-flopping on immigration. Just earlier tonight you indicated that you said that you want the national language of the United States to be English. However, why are you airing ads in Spanish? VAUGHN: Governor, let me also add something on this. Your campaign also provides a Spanish-speaking version of your Web site, with your son also speaking in Spanish. ROMNEY: Let me make it real clear: I'm not anti-immigrant. I love immigrants. I love legal immigrants coming to our country. I'm happy to communicate to them. And I hope they vote for me. ROMNEY: And I'm happy to have people all over the country, and I'm going to reach out to them in any language I can to have them vote for me and understand why I'm going to support making this a great land. I'll tell you as well, I very firmly believe that we have to make sure that we enforce our borders, that we have an employment verification system, and that those people who've come here illegally do not get an advantage to become permanent residents. They do not get a special pathway. That's a mistake. That's the problem I have with the bill -- the Kennedy-McCain bill. That's a mistake in my view. Now, let me tell you what I think about the broader issue. We talked tonight about all of the issues as they relate to the problems that we have, and I understand that. But we have extraordinary opportunities. What the Republican Party has to stand for is more than solving problems. In the 19th century, the new frontier for us was the American West. In the 20th century, it was Europe -- selling products to Europe and North America. Now, Asia has come out of poverty. A billion people who are steeped in poverty are coming out of poverty. They're consumers. We can sell products to them: medicines, technology, energy. ROMNEY: We are the party of the future, and we have to stop worrying about the problems and thinking we can't deal with those. We have to focus on the future and our opportunity to make America a great place for our kids and grandkids. Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Congressman Tancredo, would you advertise for your campaign in Spanish? Specifically, I am referring to the highly publicized comment you recently made that Miami was like a third world country. TANCREDO: Right. Yes, exactly. No, I would not advertise in Spanish. Believe me when I tell you this: The preservation of the English language is important for us for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is because it is what holds us together. It is the glue that keeps a country together -- any country. Bilingual countries don't work, and we should not encourage it. And even in the bill that Senator McCain is pushing he says that it supports English-only or official English. TANCREDO: He doesn't go on to tell you that, of course, he says that we're going to codify President Clinton's original plan, original executive order signed, that said all papers produced by the government have to be in various languages. No, it is absolutely wrong. English is the language of this country. And you know what? We should not be ashamed of that. It's a good thing. And it holds us all together, regardless of where we come from, regardless of our backgrounds, our histories. It doesn't matter. We need that thing to hold us together. BLITZER: All right. Thank you, Congressman. (APPLAUSE) Senator McCain, I'd like you to respond. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchos gracias. (LAUGHTER) We need to enforce our borders. There is indeed a special path. It's especially hard. It's eight to 13 years. My friends, we know what we're talking about is the latest wave of migrants into this country. We have to stop the illegal immigration. But we've had waves throughout our history. Hispanics is what we're talking about, a different culture, a different language, which has enriched my state, where Spanish was spoken before English was. MCCAIN: My friends, I want you the next time you're down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You'll find a whole lot of Hispanic names. When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you're going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You're even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they're willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation. So let's, from time to time, remember that these are God's children. They must come into our country legally. But they have enriched our culture and our nation, as every generation of immigrants before them. MCCAIN: Thank you. BLITZER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Jennifer, go ahead. VAUGHN: John Lewicke, good evening to you, sir. QUESTION: Good evening. VAUGHN: You live in Mason, New Hampshire. What do you do? QUESTION: I work self-employed as an electrical engineer. VAUGHN: What's your question tonight? QUESTION: In 2006, we saw the worst Republican defeat in living memory. If we do more of the same, why do we expect anything different? And I'd like to ask each of the candidates how their position differs from the present administration's so that we won't see a repeat of 2006 in 2008. VAUGHN: Senator McCain, do you want to begin with this one? MCCAIN: Spending. Spending, spending, spending, which led to corruption. We have former members of Congress in jail as we speak because of this earmarking. We let spending get out of control. We presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society. MCCAIN: And our constituents and our Republicans became dispirited and disenchanted. We've got to stop the earmarking. The bridge to nowhere, with 233 miles -- a $233 million bridge to an island in Alaska with 50 people on it was the tipping point. I want to promise you, as president of the United States, I'll veto every bill that has a pork-barrel project on it. And I'll make the authors of it famous, and we'll get spending under control, and we'll stop the corruption in Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: If all of you will limit your answer to about 10 or 15 seconds, we'll go down the line, starting with Mayor Giuliani. What has been President Bush's biggest mistake since taking office? GIULIANI: I would like to add to what John is saying. The thing that I would do different is, I would establish accountability in Washington. Washington is a mess, and that's one of the reasons Republicans lost. Republicans became Democrats. I would establish programs like I did in New York City, where I had to deal with a heavily Democratic city: FedStat program to measure accountability. You get what you measure; if you don't measure success, you have failure. And I turned around New York City; I can turn around Washington. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor. Go ahead, Governor. ROMNEY: It's going from small bore to large bore. Yes, of course, it's spending and yes, we're going to have to deal with all the issues and the problems we have. But the Republican Party is a party of the future and with a vision. Ronald Reagan had a vision for where he was going to take America. We have to once again take people forward. And that vision is the new frontier of the 21st century. Our products and services can lead the world. BLITZER: Senator? BROWNBACK: Spending, but it's bigger than that. It's hope and ideas, and I want one -- I have one I want to put on the line here. Taking on cancer and deaths by cancer, and ending deaths by cancer in 10 years. The leading cause of fear in America today is that you'll get cancer. And this is one that's actually within our reach, and it is something I think we can go at and we should go at, and it touches a lot of Americans. BLITZER: The question is, what's President Bush's biggest mistake over these past several years? THOMPSON: Because we went to Washington to change Washington, Washington changed us. We didn't come up with new ideas. We got to transform health care. We got to wind down the war in Iraq. We got to make sure that we really are conservatives. If we're going to spend money like as foolishly and as stupidly as the Democrats, the voters are going to vote for the professional spender, the Democrat, not the amateur spender, the Republican. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Congressman? TANCREDO: The biggest problem, I think, in this administration has been the fact that he ran -- the president ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal. That is what has really been the basis, I think, of the distrust that has developed among the Republican base. It's well founded. We have to do something about that. BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman Paul? PAUL: The president ran on a program of a humble foreign policy, no nation-building and no policing of the world, and he changed his tune. PAUL: And now we are fighting a war. And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Governor Gilmore? GILMORE: Let me answer the question. Principle is the difference. The Republicans have always been a part of principle, and when we deviate from that, the people of the United States remember it. Let me say this. Number one, on the issue of immigration, it violates the principle of the rule of law, and if we pass this bill and support it as Republicans, we will lose again. Spending, if we continue to earmark and spend and spend, we will be violating our principles. And finally on taxes, the president has a pretty good tax program, as a matter of fact. It's not only helped the economy, but helped regular people. And Hillary Clinton is wrong when she says that we should eliminate those tax cuts. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Congressman? HUNTER: You know, Wolf, when my son returned from Fallujah, he wrote these words. HUNTER: He said, "Families lift our nation up. They provide us with fidelity, morality, faith in God and raising the next generation of Americans." The Republican Party has to reunite with the American family and pass policies that are constant with the American family. Then we'll be a great party again. BLITZER: Governor? HUCKABEE: I think the people of America are pretty smart. And the fact is, they know that if they have excessive taxation and a tax system that literally steps on their head, and they have a regulation system that makes it very difficult for our businesses to compete, and then we've got a system of immigration that we don't have confidence in, and in addition to that we have litigation that makes it very difficult for our businesses to be able to operate in the free- enterprise system, the result is a job migration. And if you ask what the president's problem was, it's a lack of communication to be able to really help us understand what those problems were and how we needed to solve them. BLITZER: Thank you. HUCKABEE: That's what we need to do. BLITZER: Thank you. Let's go back to Jennifer. VAUGHN: Erin Gardner's here with us tonight. Erin, you live in the Gate City -- Nashua, New Hampshire. QUESTION: Yes, I do. VAUGHN: What is your question tonight? QUESTION: With regards to illegal and legal immigration, in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American? What are the tangible and intangible attributes of an American? VAUGHN: Congressman Tancredo? TANCREDO: It means, number one, cut from the past. If you come here as an immigrant, great, welcome. If you come here legally, welcome. It means you've cut your ties with the past, familial, especially political ties with the country from which you came. But let's be serious about this, you guys. We can talk about all the immigration reform we want and what it's got to get down to is this: Are we ready for a time-out? Are we actually ready to say, enough is enough, we have to stop all legal immigration except for people coming into this country as family members, immediate family members, and/or refugees. Are we willing to actually say that and say, enough is -- we have got to actually begin the process of assimilating people who have come in this great wave of immigration. TANCREDO: The process of assimilation is not going on. And how long -- how long will it take us -- for us to catch up with the millions of people who have come here, both legally and illegally, and assimilate them? I'll tell you this: It will take this long: Until we no longer have to press one for English and two for any other language. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I promised, Governor Huckabee, you'd have a chance to weigh in on this immigration issue. Do you agree with Congressman Tancredo that the U.S. should effectively end most legal immigration into the country? HUCKABEE: No, I disagree with that. I think that there are a number of people that we should welcome into this country; certainly engineers and doctors and scientists that we may need legally coming here. What we need to do is to have a border that is sealed and the same kind of process that we have to go through if we go into a stadium: We go in one at a time and we have a ticket. That's the only thing I think Americans really are asking us for, is a sane, sensible system that's based on the idea that if you come here, that you come here through the same process that we would be expected to go through if we went to another country, which is not happening today. BLITZER: Mayor Giuliani, are you comfortable with what Congressman Tancredo says about immigration to this country? GIULIANI: No. I'm very uncomfortable with it. I mean, the reality is, it's one thing to be debating illegal immigration. It's a very complex subject. I think we've had a very good debate about it. And I think the bill needs to be fixed in the way that I've indicated. But we shouldn't be having a debate about legal immigration. Abraham Lincoln defined what an American is better than I'm going to be able to do it or Congressman Tancredo or anyone on this stage. Abraham Lincoln, who fought the Know-Nothing movement, said, "Being an American is not whether you came over on the Mayflower or you came here yesterday. "How much do you believe in freedom? How much do you believe in freedom of religion? How much do you believe in freedom for women? How much do you believe in the right to vote? How much do you believe in the rule of law? "The person who believes in that the most is the best American. And the person who doesn't isn't an American." BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And that's Abraham Lincoln's words. We should always be open to legal immigration. It reforms us. It makes us better. It brings us people who want to make a better live for themselves... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... and their families. If we lose that, we lose the genius that has made America what it is. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: I'm going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I want Senator McCain to respond as well. When you hear what Congressman Tancredo says, what goes through your mind? MCCAIN: It's beyond my realm of thinking. Look, America is a land of opportunity. The question was just asked, what is it to be an American? It's to share a common goal that all of us -- a principle -- are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. That means we go as far as our ambition will take us. That means we have a better life for ourselves and our children. And the lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door is still the ideal and the dream. Of course it has to be legal. Of course that it has to be regulated. MCCAIN: And 18 months, by the way, will go by while we fix the border before we do anything else on this issue. But America is still the land of opportunity, and it is a beacon of hope and liberty and, as Ronald Reagan said, a shining city on the hill. BLITZER: Thank you. MCCAIN: And we're not going to erect barriers and fences. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Let me go back to Jennifer. Go ahead, Jennifer. VAUGHN: Carolyn Gargasz, you're here with us tonight. You're a state legislator. What is your hometown? QUESTION: Hollis. VAUGHN: And what's your question? QUESTION: What would you do to include moderate Republicans and to bring back to the party those independents who were formerly registered Republicans? VAUGHN: Governor Gilmore, speaking with you. GILMORE: Glad to. When I was a candidate for governor, I was told that a conservative couldn't appeal to moderate areas in the state of Virginia. GILMORE: And I rejected that because I believe that conservatism still stands for all people. It stands for everyone. It goes to this question that my colleagues were talking about, what's an American? An American is someone who is noble, someone who is greater than just themselves and their own personal interest, and someone the rest of the world can look up to, and someone who believes in liberty and freedom. And when I ran for governor, I went to the moderate communities and said, listen, we're going to talk about empowering people. We're going to talk about giving back more tax money. We're going to talk about the value that is yours around the kitchen table to decide where your child is going to go to school or whether or not you can pay the tuitions or whether you can pay the mortgages. And you earned this money. We understand very well that you have to pay taxes, but we also understand the value of every single person as a taxpayer. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor. Hold on one second. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in, because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates, and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldn't the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California? HUNTER: No. And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain -- Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. HUNTER: I think the guy who's got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: All right. I've got to let all three of them respond. Governor Romney, go ahead first. But do it very briefly. ROMNEY: The model for how the Republican Party wins, and wins moderates, Democrats, independents, conservatives, is who? Ronald Reagan. He did it. Ronald Reagan won in Massachusetts, both times he ran. How'd he do that? He had a stool he sat on that had three legs. One was a strong military, and today a strong military means more troops, more funding to make sure that our troops are cared for on the battlefield with the equipment they need and our veterans receive the care they need when they get home. BLITZER: Thanks, Governor. ROMNEY: Strong military, strong economy, keeping our taxes down, and strong families and strong family values. BLITZER: Thank you. ROMNEY: That's the stool with all three legs. BLITZER: Mayor? ROMNEY: And one more thing: optimism and a vision for the future. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Thank you. Mayor, I want you to respond specifically to what we've heard from Congressman Hunter. GIULIANI: I think, ma'am, the way to accomplish what you want is to nominate me. (LAUGHTER) That would be the way to do it. And I think the Republican Party can unite around two major principles that are being than all of us: being on offense against terrorism -- unlike the Democrats, who are on defense against terrorism. And you saw that two nights ago here. They couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorism." It's our biggest enemy. They couldn't utter it. We need somebody who can stand up to that. And second, someone who'll be on offense for a growth economy -- fight this impulse to raise taxes, do socialized medicine... BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: ... put everything in government. Those are the two big principles that unite us and make us the majority party. BLITZER: Thank you. GIULIANI: And we have to respect some of our differences. (APPLAUSE) BLITZER: Senator McCain? MCCAIN: Protect the family -- that's one of the questions earlier. Protect our American family. It's under assault in many respects, as we all know. And second, take the lead in fighting this transcendent issue of our time, the battle and struggle against radical Islamic extremism. It is a force of evil that is within our shores. Look at the events of the last few days at JFK, the attempt at Fort Dix, the London suicide bombers. My friends, this is a transcendent struggle between good and evil. Everything we stand for and believe in is at stake here. We can win. We will never surrender. They will. I am prepared to lead. My life and my experience and my background and my heroes inspire me and qualify me to lead in this titanic struggle, which will not be over soon. But we will prevail. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE) Thank all of you for joining us. This, unfortunately, is time for us to say goodbye for this second part of this debate. It bring the end of our debate here. Please be sure to join us for our next debate. That will occur on July 23rd from Charleston, South Carolina. It promises to be a revolutionary approach to campaign debates, in partnership with YouTube and Google. You're going to want to see this. Our thanks once again to Saint Anselm College here in Manchester and to our partners, WMUR-TV and the New Hampshire Union Leader. Coverage on CNN continues right now with my colleague Anderson Cooper and our colleague Larry King as well. 20:27:40 DRUGS. WHAT SHOULD WE HERE IN THE 20:27:42 UNITED STATES BE DOING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION 20:27:46 DRUGS? >> AND, WOLF, THE FABULOUS 20:27:49 GRAMPA, FATHER-IN-LAW, WHO LIVES WITH US IS ONE OF THE 20:27:52 PEOPLE THAT TROTS DOWN AND GOES THROUGH THE BORDER AT YUMA AND 20:27:55 DOES THAT. SO LOTS OF AMERICANS DO THAT. 20:27:58 BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. 80% OF THE NEW DRUGS AND NEW 20:28:01 INVENTION, THAT SAVE OUR LIVES AND HELP PRESERVE THE LIVES OF 20:28:04 THE RELATIVES OF EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, 80% OF 20:28:08 THOSE INVENTIONS ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATESVE UNITED STATES 20:28:10 BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE ENTERPRISE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND 20:28:13 INVEST AND MAYBE THEY DRILL THREE DRY HOLES IN TRYING TO 20:28:17 PRODUCE A GOOD DRUG THAT WILL SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND MAYBE 20:28:20 THEY HIT THE JACKPOT AND THEY PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL SAVE 20:28:23 PEOPLE AND HELP THEIR HEALTH. THEY RECOVER THE MONEY IN THE 20:28:27 UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER IN TERMS OF MARKET, 20:28:29 THEY PUT INTO THE THIRD WORLD. BUT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES LIKES 20:28:33 MEXICO COULD NEVER PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO MAKE 20:28:36 THE INVENTIONS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD. 20:28:40 HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUY OUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE ACROSS 20:28:43 STATE LINES, WOLF. RIGHT NOW THE SAME SINGLE POLICY 20:28:47 THAT CAN BE PURCHASE CHASED IN LONG BEACH FOR $300, COSTS $375 20:28:53 IN NEW JERSEY. THEY CAN'T BUY ACROSS STATE 20:28:56 LINES LIKE THEY CAN DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. 20:28:58 IF WE CAN DO THAT WHOOSH WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH 20:29:01 CARE. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. 20:29:03 LET'S GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM OUR 20:29:07 WMUR GATHER.COM BLOGGER WHO IS JOSHUA WILLIAMSON. 20:29:13 JOSHUA ASKS -- MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE 20:29:15 DISSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 20:29:17 AND U.S. EMPLOYERS ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE DUE TO THE HIGH 20:29:20 COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO FIX THE 20:29:24 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND TWO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN 20:29:28 WHICH THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AS THE INSURER IN ORDER TO SAVE ENOUGH 20:29:31 MONEY TO COVER THE MILLIONS OF UNINSURED AND TO LOWER PREMIUMS 20:29:34 FOR THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION? 20:29:36 GOVERNOR THOMPSON, LET'S HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT. 20:29:38 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DEBATES. 20:29:40 WE NEVER HAD ONE QUESTION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:43 THANK THAT PERSON FOR TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. 20:29:45 NUMBER ONE, WE SPEND $2 TRILLION ON HEALTH CARE. 20:29:52 93% OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE GOES INTO WAITING UNTIL AFTER 20:29:55 YOU BECOME SICK. ONLY 7% OF THE MONEY IS USED TO 20:29:58 KEEP YOU WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE. 20:30:00 WE GOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKE IT 20:30:03 A WELLNESS SYSTEM AND MAKE IT A PREVENTION SYSTEM. 20:30:08 SECONDLY, WE HAVE 125 MILLION AMERICANS THAT HAVE ONE OR MORE 20:30:12 CHRONIC ILLNESSES. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS WE HAVE 20:30:14 TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT TOBACCO, ABOUT DIABETES, 20:30:19 ABOUT CARDIOVASCULAR AND ABOUT OBESITY. 20:30:21 YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE HEALTH CARE. 20:30:23 THE THIRD THING, 25% OF AMERICANS USE TWO-THIRDS OF THE 20:30:28 COST OF HEALTH CARE. IF YOU MANAGE THOSE DISEASES, 20:30:30 YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 50%. AND SAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 20:30:34 FOURTH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS, A 20:30:38 PATIENT BILL OF RIGHTS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE E-PRESCRIBING AND 20:30:43 IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 20:30:45 DOLLARS. IF YOU JUST GO PAPERLESS, LADIES 20:30:49 AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL SAVE 10% ON THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. 20:30:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR, VERY MUCH. 20:30:54 GOVERNOR ROMNEY, YOU WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN YOUR STATE 20:30:58 LEGISLATION IN YOUR HOME STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF 20:31:00 MASSACHUSETTS, YOU WORKED WITH TED KENNEDY TO COME UP WITH A 20:31:03 PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SOME MANDATES IN EFECT THE INDIVIDUAL 20:31:08 HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. SOME CONSERVATIVES SAY IT'S BIG 20:31:14 GOVERNMENT, MORE LIBERAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 20:31:15 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL 20:31:19 OF THE WAY YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE IN MASSACHUSETTS? 20:31:20 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO THOSE 20:31:24 CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE CRITICAL. AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY 20:31:26 RECOGNIZE THAT THEY GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ON HEALTH CARE. 20:31:28 AND I LEARNED AFTER I WAS GOVERNOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, 20:31:31 I TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, IF I LOSE MY JOB, I'M TO WORRIED 20:31:34 I LOSE MY INSURANCE. AND MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE 20:31:36 GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER. 20:31:38 AND I TALKED TO SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, I CAN'T 20:31:41 AFORWARD THE POLICIES ANYMORE. WE SID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO 20:31:44 FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY INSURED. 20:31:47 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HELD 20:31:50 CARE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY TAKE 20:31:51 OVER GETS WORSE, KNOT BETTER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN TO 20:31:55 WASHINGTON. BECAUSE WASHINGTON MAKES A MESS. 20:31:56 WASHINGTON'S ALL TALK. WE SAID WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 20:31:59 GET EVERYBODY IN OUR STATE INSURED WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE. 20:32:02 THE HALF A MILLION WHO DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE 20:32:05 WORRIED THAT IF THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'D LOSE INSURANCE, WE 20:32:08 SAID, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INSURED WITHOUT RAISING 20:32:11 TAXES WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 20:32:14 IT RELYS ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 20:32:16 THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 20:32:18 EVERY DEMOCRAT UP THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF 20:32:20 SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 20:32:23 MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND NOT JUST 20:32:25 TALK ABOUT IT. I'M THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY TACKLED 20:32:29 THIS ISSUE. WE GET ALL OF OUR CITIZENS 20:32:32 INSURED. WE GET PEOPLE UNINSURED WITH 20:32:34 PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY THE 20:32:37 MARKET WORKS. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS. 20:32:39 >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING DO HAVE INSURANCE 20:32:40 FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 20:32:43 THAT'S THEIRS. IT'S PORTABLE, THEY NEVER HAVE 20:32:45 TO TWO AREPRY ABOUT LOSING IT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. 20:32:48 JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 20:32:51 YOU, SIR. YOUR NAME IS MAX. 20:32:54 >> YES, IT IS. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? 20:32:57 >> I TEACH PHILOSOPHY AT ST. ANSELM COLLEGE. 20:33:00 >> WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE 20:33:03 MOST PRESSING MORAL ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY TODAY? 20:33:06 AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT 20:33:10 ISSUE? >> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, YOU ARE AN 20:33:12 ORDAINED MINISTER. WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING MORAL 20:33:15 ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY? >> IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING ALL 20:33:18 THE MORAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. 20:33:20 THAT'S BETTER THAN GETTING THE IMMORAL QUESTIONS. 20:33:23 SO I'M HAPPY TO GET THOSE. I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU DEFINE 20:33:26 IN A MORAL ISSUE IT IS OUR RESPECT, OUR SANCTITY AND OUR 20:33:31 UNDERSTANDING OF THE VALUE OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE, BECAUSE 20:33:34 THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA A UNIQUE PLACE ON THIS PLANET. 20:33:38 WE VALUE EVERY LIFE. OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS IF IT 20:33:42 REPRESENTS THE LIFE OF US ALL. MANY OF US WHO ARE PRO-LIFE, 20:33:47 QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING PEOPLE THE 20:33:50 IMPRESSION THAT PRO-LIFE MEANS WE CARE INTENSELY ABOUT PEOPLE 20:33:54 AS LONG AS THAT CHILD IS IN THE WOMB. 20:33:57 BUT BEYOND THE GESTATION PERIOD WE'VE NOT DEMONSTRATED, AS 20:34:02 DEMONSTRABLY AS WE SHOULD, THAT WE RESPECT LIFE AT ALL LEVELS. 20:34:05 NOT JUST DURING PREGNANCY. WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW A CHILD TO 20:34:11 LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE OR IN THE BACK SEAT OF A CAR. 20:34:13 WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE ARE BEING ABUSED 20:34:17 AND NEGLECTED IN NURSING HOMES. IT SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO 20:34:23 US THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, ANY PEOPLE. 20:34:27 BUT THE UNIQUE PART OF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE ELEVATE AND 20:34:30 WE CELEBRATE HUMAN LIFE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT US WITH THE CONTRAST 20:34:37 TO THE ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHO WOULD STRAP A BOMB TO THE BELLY 20:34:43 OF HIS OWN CHARGE AND SET THE DETONATOR AND KILL INNOCENT 20:34:46 PEOPLE, THEY CELEBRATE DEATH, THEY SELL WE CELEBRATE LIFE. 20:34:52 IT'S THE KEY ISSUE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 20:34:54 I PRAY THAT WE NEVER, EVER ABANDON THAT PRINCIPLE. 20:34:57 >> THANK YOU. MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT IS THE MOST 20:35:00 PRESSING MORAL ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY? 20:35:03 >> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CORRECT. 20:35:04 I'D PUT IT MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 20:35:06 WE HAVE GREAT GIFTS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT COME TO US FROM 20:35:09 GOD. WE HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH WE 20:35:11 HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM FOR 20:35:14 THE INDIVIDUAL, THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR OWN OFFICIALS AND THE 20:35:18 REALITY IS THAT IN SOME OF THE WORLD, MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT 20:35:21 DOESN'T EXIST. I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR 20:35:24 GENERATION IS GOING TO BE -- ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE GIFTS 20:35:27 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD? 20:35:30 IF WE CAN BRING ALONG THE MIDDLE EAST, IF WE CAN BRING ALONG 20:35:35 THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE PRESENTLY OUR ENEMIES AND GET 20:35:37 THEM TO SEE THE VALUES OF THESE EIGHT DEALS. 20:35:39 IF WE HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN 20:35:43 THE WAY THAT RONALD REAGAN DID WITH COMMUNISM, THEN WE CAN END 20:35:48 UP WITH HAVING THE PEACE THAT WE WANT. 20:35:50 AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THIS. 20:35:53 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH VIETNAM A SHORT WHILE 20:35:56 AGO. WE'RE FRIENDS NOW. 20:35:57 THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS AT WAR WITH JAPAN, ITALY AND 20:36:01 GERMANY A GENERATION AGO. THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BEST FRIENDS 20:36:04 TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 20:36:05 >> WE HAVE GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTRY AND WATCHING THE 20:36:08 STRENGTH OF AMERICA W