NO LABELS EVENT 1030AM / HD
INT BROLL OF THE "NO LABELS" EVENT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FEATURING SEVERAL OF THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES /
Today, eight presidential candidates are attending the No Labels Problem Solver Convention hosted by Jon Huntsman and Joe Lieberman with the goal of bringing New Hampshire's famed independent voters together. It's one of the only presidential forums where we will see both Republicans and Democratic candidates together. Martin O'Malley is kicking it off at 8:30AM <x-apple-data-detectors://0>, Lindsey Graham is at 9:45AM <x-apple-data-detectors://1>, Donald Trump is at 11AM <x-apple-data-detectors://2>followed by Chris Christie at 1:15pm <x-apple-data-detectors://3>. Bernie Sanders will address the event via livestream at 2pm <x-apple-data-detectors://4> followed by George Pataki at 3PM <x-apple-data-detectors://5>. Jim Webb isat 3:30 <x-apple-data-detectors://6>, also via livestream and John Kasich rounds out the day at 5:15PM <x-apple-data-detectors://7>.
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WASH 8 NO LABELS EVENT NH P2
11:09:24
TRUMP: Thank you very much, everybody. That's so nice. Wow. No Labels, that's right. I'm a believer.
You know, John and Joe called, and they said would you do it. This was about two months ago. And I said well, I think I will be able to. They explained what No Labels represented, we all know that that's where we have to go in this country because we're getting nothing done whatsoever.
So I said I think so. I have to get out. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able to do it. So they then -- the next day, they announced I will be there without question, right?
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11:09:59
TRUMP: They're tough negotiators. So I had another problem. We had another speech someplace. It was actually quite a bit of a problem. And I told them I wouldn't do it. See, they were solvers, they were problem solvers. And they went nuts. They were not happy. Is that right, Joe and Jon? They were not happy people. And ultimately I said, I may have gone a little over that 50 percent level. And so here I am. Right? Here I am.
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And I love New Hampshire. And as Joe said, you know, the latest poll came out, 32 to 14 or 13, or something -- I think it's 13. And I have the 32, which is even better. Somebody said, why do you talk about the polls? Because I am winning. They go, but nobody else ever talks about the polls; that's because they do lousy in the polls.
11:10:50
Nobody else talks about the polls, they don't do well in the polls. Believe me, if they were doing well, they would be talking about the polls. But we had 32 to 13. And that is a big gap and that is in New Hampshire. And we've been here a lot. I know so many people, I have friends in New Hampshire, they are amazing people. Amazing. So, thank you all, I really appreciate it.
So when we talk about no labels and we talk about getting along -- and I'm not going to say it too much, because Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan, you probably hear it every speaker, but I look at that as the ultimate -- where two people with different views, different everything and they liked each other and they got along and they got things done. And they had a leader in Ronald Reagan.
11:11:34
Because ultimately it is about the president, it is. Much more so about the president then you can imagine. And if the president is a leader, if he is a real leader, or she is a real leader, you will get things done.
But you need the leadership to come from the very pinnacle, from the very top. And if it doesn't, it's not going to happen. And that's not happening now. It's not happening now.
People aren't getting together. And I see it. You know, I have actually been doing this for a long time. A lot of people say, oh, gee -- I was very establishment. I was the ultimate. I gave more money than anybody. I mean, I would give so much money, I was all establishment when I gave contributions, right? When I decided to run, I was anti-establishment. Can you believe this? But we can't take a chance on a loss.
11:12:20
I mean, I watched previously -- two, in particular, two -- and last time, I was seriously thinking about doing it, I decided not to, because I thought it was a race that could have been won, should have been won, and I don't want that to happen again. I don't want it to happen again. Because I think it's -- really, if you look at what happened four years ago, boy, timing was right. Everything was right. And it should have been done.
Well, it is going to be done this time, and hopefully it's going to be done by me. And I think we are going to have a result is going to be great. We are going to turn the country around. We are going to make America great again. And that's what's going to happen. That's what's going to happen.
11:12:58
I looked at a couple of things that I thought would be appropriate. And I'm thinking back about of my career. And on my career -- when I was a young, a young man in New York, we had a problem called a skating rink. It took eight years. Everyone knows. The Wollman Skating Rink. They now study it in all the business schools. They're all nodding their heads. We all studied it.
I didn't study it, but I did it. But it's in all the business schools, about what private enterprise can do. And we had a rink. I mean, it wasn't such a little deal. It was an 80,000 foot rink. It's a very big rink. And the government under Mayor Ed Koch couldn't -- they couldn't get it built. They were trying -- it was actually a renovation, it wasn't even building. And after eight years -- and I have a daughter growing up, and she kept saying, dad, I want to go ice skating.
11:13:51
And for year after year, I would say to Ivanka -- anybody ever hear of Ivanka? Right? She's great. But she said, can I go ice skating, dad? And for years, for seven years, I said I can't. There was no ice. And I would go over to the rink, and I'd see the man and the workers, and they'd be sitting down. They had lunch breaks, it would take like four or five hours. There would be hundreds of guys sitting at the rink. I said, boy, that's terrible.
And I'd pass it. And after the seventh years, I went to Koch. I said, Ed, I can do this thing right fast. This is ridiculous. They're not working; they're using the wrong everything. And I met with the unions. I met with people doing refrigeration. They were doing refrigeration, the engineer was based in Miami, Florida.
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11:14:38
I said -- it's true. And they were using freon. And freon -- that means if you have a little tiny hole in 30 miles of pipe, little tiny hole, it's not going to work. Gas, it'll go out. And I said, "That doesn't sound good, but why do we want a guy" -- so I called up the Montreal Canadians ice hockey team. I said, "Could I ask you question? Who does your rinks?" "Oh, we have somebody excellent. He's based right here in Montreal." I said, "Now we're talking."(LAUGHTER)
11:15:06
TRUMP: And he came in -- great guy. Came in, he looked at what was happening, he immediately said, "You can't use freon, it won't work. It'll freeze, it's this -- it won't work. You have to use brine." You know what brine it? It's water with salt in it. How simple could that get? So on top of everything else, it was much less expensive.
Anyway, I got to town, Ed Koch said, "Well, you do it," because it was a very huge embarrassment for the New York people. They all know what I'm talking about. And we had cement mixers because it was a massive pour. They were pouring little sections, like ten feet by ten feet. You can imagine this missive rink. Like take the biggest office floor you know and double and triple it and then pour a little section and then another little section, and then the vandals would come in at night and steal all the copper, because the freon you have to use the copper.
11:15:57
So I said, "This is not good." So -- and you want one contiguous pour. So I had trucks from based from -- literally from the rink all the way back to Harlem. All the way up, way up to 125th Street, cement mixers. We poured it all in one day. It was 24 hours. They were pouring during the day, during the night. It was 26 hours and 25 minutes. And we poured one contiguous pour, it healed beautifully.
When the city did it, it was like this. So they had on one side, a foot and a half of water, and on the other side, they didn't have any water. So they couldn't make ice for a lot of reasons. So -- and actually, you know, when I talk about the price, the biggest problem I had was demolition. That was the biggest cost. I had to demolish everything that was done.
11:16:44
So I got it done. I got everybody together and we got it done. And to this day, it is the most successful ice-skating rink. I still run it. I run it. Nobody -- every time it comes up, the city wants -- they want me to -- they don't want to take any chances, but I've run it for many years and it's the number one in the world and it does great.
And it sort of -- I was just thinking about it coming up because we are talking about no labels. I was talking to John, I was talking to Joe and we are talking about getting together. I got together with everybody. The city, the council. Everything had to be done fast. The beauty is, I did it in four months, this is after eight years. I did it in four months. I did it for $1.8 million. The city had spent over $20 million, and I always say most of it was demolition. OK?
11:17:28
That's what happens, and you can do that with this country. You can do it with the country, and believe me, you can do things that people have no idea construction wise. Our roads are falling apart, our bridges, our tunnels, our airports. I just left LaGuardia Airport. It's like a third world airport. No, it's third world. I mean, it's horrible. You look at it, you go out to the runways, it's horrible.
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And I go to places because I travel all over the world, I have so many different relationships and partnerships and very complicated stuff and I meet the richest people, the richest companies in the world and I'm partners with many of them in different parts. You go to Qatar and you go to all of the different places -- by the way, all over China. All over China. You go to Bahrain, you go to Saudi Arabia.
11:18:18
You see airports -- you have never seen anything like it. You've never seen anything like it. They've built temporary airports while they're building the big one that are 100 times nicer than anything we have in this country. We're -- we're just -- it's -- it's -- we've lost it. We've lost it.
Another deal that just happened, and this was, again, getting everybody together. The city of New York in the Bronx, right outside of Manhattan, and most of you have read about it, they had a 350 acre piece of land on the water on the East River. The East River is great. People have apartments on the East River, right? He knows what I'm going to say. It was 350 and expandable into 550 acres. This is like five minutes outside of Manhattan. I'd say right off the Manhattan ramp.
11:19:03
They've been building the golf course, I think, for 30 years. I think. Somebody said its really not 30, it's 21 years. OK. It's 21. So whether it's 20, 21, or 30, but I think it's 30. It has been under construction for many, many years. We believe the cost is over $300 million.
In fact the mayor said to me, "What do you think it should have cost?" I said, "About $7 million," but I believe the cost is over $300 million. And they couldn't get it done. Mayor Bloomberg said, "You've got to help us. Please, you've got to help us." So they want to an RFP. I've got the RFP, so I have a long-term deal and I took it over. I got it done in less than a year. For peanuts. It's beautiful. It's getting all rave reviews.TRUMP: I had to get the city together, I had to get all the unions together. I had to get everybody together and we got it done and they worked so hard, and now it's open and setting every record because of its location. It's phenomenal. I mean, to be right next to Manhattan and on the river, it's unbelievable.
11:20:07
So you can do these things, but it's about leadership. You have to get people together. And frankly, if I had somebody that worked for me who was good, it wouldn't be good enough. It had to come from me because I needed the mayor's help, I needed the city council's help, I needed a lot of -- it's -- and the case we're talking about is -- comes from the president. Has to come from the president.
And I'll give you something that, to me, is so big. Corporate inversion. You know, I look at your different things that you have, things that you want to do. Create 25 million jobs. This is the organization that you want to do. Balance the federal budget by 2030 -- 2030?
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11:20:48
That's an easy one.
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2000 -- actually, you know, I looked at -- because they gave me this note, I said -- I said I think there's a typo.
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2030. Secure Social Security, they have to do it. People have a contract. We all have a contract. I don't need mine, by the way. And by the way, I think if somebody doesn't want it, give it up. But it's got to be that person's decision.
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11:21:15
OK? It's got to be that person's -- you know, I have friends that are worth hundreds of millions and billions of dollars that get Social Security. They don't even know the check comes in. They'll never see the check.
I -- you know, there are a lot of -- a lot of people would give it up. I mean, for the good of the country. It's almost like give it up. I want to do that. I don't know if anybody's even talked about it. I've never heard it, but I have friends that -- they all say we don't want it. Let's give it up. You have a lot of people who are doing -- and you do it on the basis of spirit for the country because we have to keep Social Security for the people that really need it.
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11:21:17
It's so important.
And make America energy secure by 2024. I mean, it's almost energy secure now. We have so much -- because of technology, what we have in the ground is enormous. But we're not allowed to export it, and we have more than anybody. You know, we have more really good stuff.
I have friends, Harold Ham (ph) and some other people, they're oil people, they great people. We have the best stuff, the really best stuff. I'm not talking about the Tar Sands, which are fine, but it's very expensive to get the oil -- very, very expensive. And it costs a lot of money. You have to heat it and you have to cool it and you have to do all sorts of -- it's expensive.
11:22:28
We have the best stuff. We have prime, we have prime. And we don't use it. And yet, we're not allowed to use coal anymore, and yet we export coal to China, and then we say China has to go under the agreement. But they don't have to go under for 25 and 35 years. So we're doing it now, they're doing it in 35 years. I mean, how stupid are we? How stupid do they think we are, OK?
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How stupid do they think we are? It's like our military. I love the military, I love our vets. I will take such great care of our vets. Believe me. I have a lot of my friends here.
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11:23:05
A lot of my friends are here, the vets. Our vets are being treated worse -- I'm telling you, worse than illegal immigrants coming into this country. They're being treated worse, and they're our greatest people.
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And our wounded warriors, they're not being treated fairly. And we'll take care of that.
But when you look at all of the difficulties -- I watched President Obama last night on television. He bombed, very simply. And it was not easy for him because Steve Kroft, who was doing the -- now, I -- they were much nicer to me two weeks ago, don't we agree? I was on with Putin, can you believe that? Putin and Trump. Nice stablemates. Very nice.
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11:23:46
Putin and Trump. But Obama was on last night, and I thought -- you know, after about 10, 15 minutes, I said, you know, every single thing is negative. ISIS, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy. A hundred million people in the labor force, 100 million. Think of it. They're not going to get jobs.
You know, the statistic of 5.4 percent, it's a phony statistic. Doesn't mean anything...
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... other than the politicians in this room -- they don't count because they're fabulous; these are fabulous people.
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11:24:21
I hate to insult people when they're sitting there with their wives. You know, it's terrible. So these are great people. But other than them, that statistic was made up by politicians, because you always look good. A guy looks for a job, he can't find one. Or a woman. They go back home, they say, "I can't find one -- I've looked now for months, I can't find one." They go back, they're considered essentially employed. Whoever heard of this?
TRUMP: We have 100 million people, 100 million people out of the workforce. It's the highest number it's ever been. You know, somebody said, a very, very talented person, said our unemployment rate -- and I'm going to -- I'm not going to take this number -- but actually said our unemployment rate is 42 percent. Think of it. And if you really add it up, it is. So I only say 20, 21, 22 because I want to be nice to the president, OK? But it's a disaster. We have to take create jobs, we have to take jobs back from all of these countries that are ripping us. We have to bring them back. We have to bring them back home.
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11:25:22
So what happens -- and what has to happen is we will get into a situation where hopefully when the next president is interviewed by 60 Minutes or whoever, they can say, wow, you have really made some unbelievable strides with trade deals. I mean, I have Carl Icahn lined up. I have the smartest toughest negotiators in the world lined up. They don't want anything for it. Just like I don't want a salary. If I win -- I don't want -- somebody said to me the other day, would you want your salary if I become president?
I said, never thought of it, I said no, I don't want it. I don't want it. These guys don't want anything. They actually want to help. They want to do something. And I know -- I know people that are so tough and smart. You don't just need tough, I was saying the other day -- they said you want tough in terms of speaker. You want tough. And I said, no, I don't want tough. I want tough and smart.
11:26:22
Tough is no good. I know too many tough people, they are not smart. You need the combination. Right? Right. But you need the combination. We need smart, tough people. We've got to bring our country back. We can't go on like this. We can't go on like this. We cannot continue to lose. The U.S. trade deficit with China -- I had it looked up. It is almost $400 billion a year. And last year it was the same thing and then I went back five years, it was almost -- it gets worse. It gets worse.
11:26:56
Now if you want to do business with China, you can't. I have friends that are manufacturers. They can't get their product in and if they do they get a huge tariff. They have to pay a huge tariff. A man that I am very close to -- by the way, I love the Chinese. I think they are great. But their leaders are too smart. I love Mexico. I love the Mexican people. They are great. But their leaders are too smart for our leaders. They're killing us at the border, they're killing us with trade. Nabisco is moving into Mexico. Can you believe it, their big plant. They're leaving Chicago, which means I am never going to eat another Oreo again. Nobody is -- I'm serious. Never. Never.
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11:27:34
Ford is building a $2.5 billion plant in Mexico. How does that help us? They're closing in Michigan all these plants and they're going to build this massive plant. Explain -- I went to the Wharton School of Finance. Why? Why is this good for us? Why? In Tennessee, they are all set to announce a big plant. And the company announced very quickly, very ruthlessly, they have decided to go to Mexico instead. So now they are going to Mexico instead. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
We're going to keep our jobs in the United States. You want to do business with some of these countries, they charge you taxes. We don't charge them tax, because we are stupid. We don't charge them. It's not fair. So we need problem solvers. We need leaders and you can't have leadership unless you know how to -- you know, let's -- we are going to make our country rich again.
11:28:28
A woman came up to me and said Mr. Trump, I like you. She is from New Hampshire. I like you so much, but are you a nice enough person to be president? Can you believe it? I said, I think I'm nice. I love people. But it's not -- I told her, I said, I'm nice, believe me. I'm going to take care of people. I'm going to take care of women.
I'm going to take care of men. I'm going to take care of the African-Americans. Look at their unemployment rates. It's a record. African-American youths. Look at what's going on in the inner cities. African-American youth, they can't get jobs at all, 60 percent, 70 percent unemployment. I'm going to take care of people. But I said to her, I don't think, I really don't believe this is going to be about am I nice person. I think people are fed up with incompetent politicians that don't get things done. I'm telling you.
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11:29:17
I think they are fed up. And I think this is going to be an election that's going to be largely based on competence. Because we want our country back. We want to take it back. We want our country back. So it's really an honor to be with you. It's an incredible group. Behind me is the future...
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... except for a couple of people in the audience that I know. Forget them. But this is the future. And I thought I would take a couple of questions. They were asking would I be able to take a couple of questions so it would be my honor.TRUMP: Go ahead, sir, yes. Go ahead, sure. Yes.
11:30:00
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
TRUMP: Wait, wait.
QUESTION: Mr. Trump...
TRUMP: You look healthy to me. Go ahead.
QUESTION: I would like to thank you for continuing this constructive conversation. As you probably know, President -- sorry, President Bush started PEPFAR, which has been an incredible fund. The President's emergency plan for AIDS relief. It has been very effective at...
TRUMP: Good.
QUESTION: ... AIDS treatment globally. And what I -- as long as -- with a group of college students across the country really wanted to ask you if you would commit to doubling the number of people on treatment to 30 million people by the year 2020?
11:30:49
TRUMP: Well, I like committing to all of those things. Those are great things. Alzheimer's, AIDS, so many different -- you know, we are close on some of them. On some of them, honestly, with all of the work that has been done -- which hasn't been enough, we are not very close.
But the answer is yes, I believe so strongly in that. And we're going to lead the way. We're going to lead the way on that.
OK, yes, sir.
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11:31:09
QUESTION: Michael (inaudible), here in New Hampshire.
TRUMP: Good.
QUESTION: And I am impressed that you are here in person, I have to admit.
TRUMP: That's good, thank you.
QUESTION: I'm going to throw a question at you and I think it's going to be a hard one for you to answer.
TRUMP: Go ahead.
QUESTION: So, here is the challenge. Compromise has become the dirty word. If the other side said, we would do this, and that, and all they asked was for a tax increase, a specific tax increase or getting rid of a tax deduction, what could you offer at the table again, as a gesture of compromise?
11:31:47
TRUMP: OK, well, let me just tell you, the word compromise is not a bad word to me. As a negotiator, and having written the "Art of the Deal," and having made deals all my life -- and I'm coming out with a book in three weeks.
It's a rough title. Does anyone know the title of the book? It's a rough title -- "Crippled America." You know, I tell you, it is a very sad title. Simon & Schuster called me, they said, "We would love to do a book." And I said -- I started writing and I worked with a group, and they're great people. And I realized how much negativity is going on.
And I said that. And then they sent this great photographer on, and they took these beautiful pictures of me smiling. I'm smiling, so happy, you know, I'm smiling. I look nice. My wife said, "You look really good, dear." Great.
But I didn't use that picture. I used the worst picture in the whole group, and it is mean, it's angry, because I am angry about what's happening to the country and I put it right on the cover of the book.
11:32:39
It's a horrible picture, which shows I don't have as much ego as -- it's a horrible picture, but I like the word compromise. We need compromise, there is nothing wrong with compromise, but it's always good to compromise and win. Meaning, let's compromise and win. Now, as far as taxes are concerned, you know, I put out a plan where I'm reducing taxes very substantially.
In fact, we are bringing corporate down to 15 percent. We are bringing tremendous tax reductions to virtually everybody. We are getting rid of a lot of the deductions, like carried interest. Which is meant for the hedge fund deductions, I mean, these are hedge fund deductions.
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11:33:17
We are getting rid of them. The hedge fund guys don't want to talk to me anymore. They wanted to give me millions. I am self- funding my campaign. I'm not taking money from hedge funds or anybody else. They want to give me millions, I don't want it.
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Because if I take it, I have got to be like Jeb Bush, I have got to be like Rubio, I got to be like all these guys, and I got to do what they tell me to do. Because believe me, they are puppets. Believe me, they are puppets.
11:33:39
So, I'm self-funding my campaign, but we have asked for a major tax reduction and a major, major simplification. So I think you will be very happy, and the word compromise is absolutely fine. But if you are going to compromise, ask for about three times more than you want.
You understand? So when you compromise, you get what you want. OK.
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Yes, go ahead. Go ahead. She doesn't have a mic. Who's got a mic, back there? OK, good -- oh, look who we have. Good.
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11:34:12
QUESTION: I'm Allie Knowles (ph). I'm Miss America's Outstanding Teen.
TRUMP: Good.
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And I travel across the country and teach kids about saving money, which is hard. Our government doesn't -- isn't even fiscally responsible. So I'm asking every single candidate, and I have been waiting to ask you.
TRUMP: In particular.
QUESTION: Oh, yeah, of course. So, specifically, what are you going to be doing about the $18 trillion deficit?
11:34:37
TRUMP: All right. Well, what we're going to do, I mean, we do -- and by the way, it's now $19 trillion -- so we have now $119 trillion in deficits, $19 trillion. You know, if you look, we owe -- when I say that -- we owe -- this is what you're talking about -- we owe $19 trillion as a country, and we are going to knock it down and we are going to bring it down big league and quickly. We're going to bring jobs back, we are going to bring business back. We are going -- we are going to stop our deficits. We're going stop our deficits. We are going to do it very quickly.
Oh, how? Are you ready? Number one, we have tremendous cutting to do. You have a Department of Education that is totally out of control, massive costs. And you know, most of the -- and some of the Republican candidates like Common Core. I am totally against Common Core. I want local education.
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11:35:31
When I am in New Hampshire and Iowa and South Carolina, I want -- so important. So we're going to have that. We're going to save on Department of Environmental Protection because they're not doing it. They're not doing their job and they are making it impossible for our country to compete, and many, many other things. Hundreds of billions of dollars is going to be saved just in terms of running government.
In addition to that, I'm going to bring millions of jobs back into this country. OK darling? Thank you. OK. Questions. Yes Madam.
11:36:06
Q: My name is Micaela Connery (?) and in the spirit of problem solving I am wondering if you are at all concerned that some of the divisive language you use on campaign trail undermines your ability to solve problems?
11:36:14
TRUMP: I have to say what I do. You know what? I mean, I understand. I under-- here is the thing. I went to IV league schools,I know what's divisive I know what's not divisive, in all fairness. What you do, I don't want necessarily be politically correct all the way down the line. Because I am seeing people, I see people that can't even function. I see politicians they are afraid to say anything, because it's not politically correct. And they know the answers and they refuse to give them because they're afraid it's not going to be politically correct. I am going to have to be who I am. Now at the same time I am running against a lot of people. It was 16 now it's 15. As you know one dropped out, many are going to be dropping out I think very soon.
11:37:04
If they are smart, they are going to be dropping out. Many. Too many people! Too many people! When it becomes a different kind of a situation you'll see I'm going to be much less divisive. But always remember this, I never start anything, I never start, I said before, counterpuncher. I don't start, they start, they get nasty. Whether it's Graham, whether it's Perry from Texas, I get along great then all of a sudden they start-- because they dying, they are doing so badly, they are doing so badly that they figure-- I don't think anybody in this room wants to have somebody that's not going to fight back. The problem we have in this country is we have people now that don't fight back, they don't fight back. The country is tremendously, the country is being hurt tremendously by it. Ok.Another question.
11:37:56
Q: Mr. Trump my name is Kyle Smith (?) I am a student leader [...] Thank you first of all and I was wondering what your plan is in working across the aisle to Increase civic engagement among millennials, getting college students some.
TRUMP: So important.
Q: ...and mainly also student loans.
11:38:27
TRUMP: So important and that's gonna be worked on. The one thing I get may be more than any other question is student loans. I am getting it from the students. They go out, they get an education from great colleges, many great colleges. They become the best student in their class, everything is great and then they can't get a job. The best way to solve that is to create jobs. But they can't get jobs. The students are going out. they are in (?) they are borrowing money all over the place. They borrowed the student loan money which is by the way one of the only agencies in government that makes a lot of money. That's the one place maybe we shouldn't be making so much money.
11:39:03
But it's the question that I get more than any other question. We're going to be cutting that down we gonna get people incentive to get out and get an education, but most-- at a much lower price. Don't forget these schools, because they get so much money from government through the students, they are raising their fees to a point that's ridiculous. They don't need to get that kind of money. They don't need to get that kind of money. Because of the fact the government is giving out so much money, you take a look at what's happened to the cost of education and believe me it hasn't gone up that much. So we're going to do a number, we are gonna get those numbers down, and also we're going to have jobs so when you graduate you're going to end up getting a nice job where you're very happy. ok? Thank you. Great question. Go ahead.
11:39:50
Q: What's your perspective on the freedom caucus, of aka I guess tea party which has been at the heart of ?
11:40:02
TRUMP: I love the tea party, I do. I love the tea party. You know what I tell you about the tea party. These are people, in all fairness 'cause you can't really-- these are people that love this country, they do love this country and they want the country to be great. I mean it's very important. Go ahead.
11:40:19
Q: The issue is, for example, I see, not to offend anyone, but quite frankly I see that Planned Parenthood is a deck chair on the Titanic. So that's where I am coming from...
TRUMP: But that's their point of view...
Q:...to shut down the entire government over it. It's kind of the small world mindset.
11:40:40
TRUMP: They don't want Planned Parenthood funded, and I think a lot of people understand that including me. They don't want it funded, I mean I understand that. You do have that. A lot of people feel that way.
11:41:00
Q: Maybe I am wrong. Maybe you confirm me wrong, but I don't think that you're a friend to women. (applause) What...
11:41:12
TRUMP: I knew I shouldn't have picked her. I knew I shouldn't have picked her. All Right, so let me give you that answer right now. I respect women incredibly. I have had women working for me in positions that they had never worked in terms [...] in terms of so many different jobs, I had a woman who is charge of the building of Trump Tower, many years before it was even-- before anybody would have even thought of it. And did a fantastic job. I have given women more opportunity than I would say virtually anybody in the construction industry. I have a daughter named Ivanka and wife named Melania who constantly want me to talk about women's health issues, because they know how I feel about it. And they know how I feel about women. I respect women, I love women I cherish women. You know Hillary Clinton said he shouldn't cherish. WEll I said , I do cherish, I cherish women. My mother was one of the great people of the world, maybe the greatest ever. My mother. I respect women.
11:42:13
I'm going to take care of women. You know, Jeb Bush didn't want to fund women's health issues. You read that, you saw that. And then he took it back later. I will take care of women and I have great respect for women and I do cherish women and I will take care of women. I will take care also from enemy, meaning the enemy on different shores that's looking to come in and do numbers. Believe me I will take care of people in this country far better than any of the folks that you are looking at right now, that I can tell you. ok.yea, go ahead.
11:42:56
Oh, I thought it was finished. [turns around to prior person asking the question]
Q: I want to get paid the same as a man, and I think you understand that. So, if you become president will a woman make the same as a man and do i get to choose what i do with my body?
11:43:12
TRUMP: You're going to make the same if you do as a good a job. You are going to make the same if you do as good a job. And I happen to be pro life. ok, I am pro life. Ok, Any other questions?
[invites the next person to ask a question]
Harvard, do you go to Harvard?
11:44:04
Q: Hi, this is Sean (?) thank you so much for coming to speak to us today. I have a quick question to something you said early this summer about, basically you said that South Korea takes advantage of the US in terms of the defending spending on the Korean peninsula-- You said [...] are not going to pay anything. I just want to get the facts straight...
11:44:21
TRUMP: Are you from South Korea?
Q: No, I was born in Texas raised in Colorado. But I want to say, no matter where I am from I like to get the facts straight, and I want to tell you that that's not true, South Korea paid 861 million dollars...
11:44:36
TRUMP: Which is peanuts compared to what it's costing us.
Q: Yea, but the United States also ...
TRUMP: Excuse me, excuse me it's peanuts compared to what it's costing. It's peanuts. And by the way they are a very wealthy country. Part of the problem when we are talking about like your question about deficit and about losing, why can't we do-- we're defending Germany, we're defending Japan, South Korea, we are defending so many countries, we get peanuts, we get nothing. You know, you are right we get a small payment. It's a fraction, it's a tiny fraction. I say all the time about SK, I ordered 4,000 TV sets recently for a big project. They all come from SK, my only bidder was SK. Except for Sony which is in Japan and they lost their way, ok. my only bidder, whether it's LG or whether Samsung. These are wealthy countries. We have 28,000 soldiers on the border of SK, so we defend Germany which is sending cars and everything over, making-- it's an eco behemoth, we're defending Japan. So here is the deals that we make, we defend Japan and we have to defend them with our lives.
11:45:49
If anyone attacks Japan we have an agreement, we have to go and attack and fight and die and spend. But if anybody attacks us, Japan doesn't have to do a thing. That's the way we run things. It's not going to happen with me, folks. It's not going to happen with me. And if we are defending people that are far richer than us, they are gonna have to pay for it. We want to help them. But why are we defending Germany, why are we defending South Korea, Japan and don't do anything for us. We are going to have great relationships, but why do we pay the cost of defending in the world? And you know when you are looking at your military budget, yea, it's far higher than anybody else's. you know why it's higher? Because we are defending all these countries, not helping us. We're going to change things around and we're going to make America great again, believe me. That you all very much. Thank you. Thank you.
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GRAHAM: Out of respect for people, I won't dance.
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When I first announced for the Senate I took Senator Thurmond's place. Anybody heard of Senator Thurmond? Yes, we change senators every 50 years whether we need to or not.
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So Bob Dole was my National Chairman. Strom Thurmond, and James Brown was the entertainment.
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What's the moral of the story? No one knew I was there.
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And seeing Bob Dole trying to keep time was...
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... sort of worth it all. Speaking trying to keep time. I want to take some questions I've enjoyed -- thank God for New Hampshire. It's the last place...
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... it's the last place on earth where you can meet 20 people running for president if you're lucky.
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10:06:56
So keep South Carolina in your prayers; it's been a tough year. The Charleston shooting, I would like to just note the people in the Mother Emanuel Church did a better job of representing my state and mankind than I could have ever hoped to have done, so.
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If you're looking for a model to follow go to that church. It is really been tough; 18 inches of rain in 18 hours down in Charleston; I hope these dams hold, but our Governor and her whole team's doing a great job.
So let's talk about our country a little bit. Do you agree that America's worth fighting for?
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10:07:47
Yes?
You think it's worth dying for?
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Is it worth compromising for?
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In many ways it is easier to go to Afghanistan than it is Washington.
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At least you know who the enemy is.
So I want to talk to you a little bit about trade-offs. Anybody married?
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I think you know what I'm talking about. Life, at its best, is a series of trade-offs.
Hey, Paul.
So the bottom line here's what the next president needs to do, whoever who he or she may be. They need to get us in a room in Washington, come to the White House, have a drink, maybe more than one.
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10:08:38
Get everybody liquored up and solve problems.
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So this is what Reagan and O'Neill did: campaign finance reform. You want to get money out of politics?
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Yes. Join my campaign.
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We -- we've accomplished that.
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Citizens United has to be revisited because it's going to be pretty hard to solve any problem with unlimited giving by unknown people.
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10:09:26
So it will probably take a Constitutional Amendment, but I think there's a way to get there, and that would be a priority to me because if you don't get this fixed I think the days of problem solving are behind us when you got 158 families financing half -- giving half the money, and one, I want to know who they are, by the way; call them up.
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Something's broken there. Debt. Do you all agree that debt is a no-label problem?
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10:10:05
The debt that we're about to pass on future generations could care less if you're a Republican family or a Democratic family. Now what drives the debt? Spending, well, that's pretty clever. What drives the debt over time? Spending on what? Entitlement reform. How many of you think Social Security is worth saving?
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Me too.
10:10:30
Social Security and Medicare are programs that people depend on for a quality of life when they retire. They're jeopardy of being overwhelmed because 80 million baby boomers, of which I'm one, are going to retire in the next 20 years, 25 years. Anybody born from '46 to '64?
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Yes.
Anybody born after '64?
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Good luck.
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You're going to need it.
So have you heard of Simpson-Bowles? All right.
10:11:10
Here's what I would do if I were president, I would dust it off and I'd use it as a template, because there's no way you can tax your way out of this problem. 80 million people are going to retire in mass, we're going to be down to two workers for every retiree in the next 20 years. In 1950 there were 16 workers for every retiree, in 20 years it's going to be two. Now Strom Thurmond had four kids after he was 67; if you're willing to do that we may can turn this around.
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If you think you can do that you probably have a high opinion of yourself.
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So, and I'm not betting on you can deliver, so I'm going to Plan B.
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10:12:01
So what do you do? You got a lot of people wanting their Social Security checks and their Medicare bills paid, and you got two people paying FICA taxes and Social -- and Medicare taxes. Simpson-Bowles is a great trade-off; here's what Republicans have to do: we have to eliminate deductions in the tax code that many of us enjoy. 1.2 trillion a year given away in deductions, we're going to have to bring some of that money back into the Treasury and we're going to have to put it on debt, and we're going to have to violate pledges that all of us have signed.
Have you heard of the Grover Norquist Pledge? Now, I like Grover, and here's what Grover says, "If you eliminated deduction, let's say second home interest deduction, something that would be hard but if you eliminated that, under the pledge you'd have to take all the money to buy down tax rates." The problem with that is no Democrat's going to get in the room to adjust the age or retirement or means to it as benefits.
10:12:59
So what Simpson-Bowles requires is for Republican to eliminate a deduction, take some of the revenue to pay down debt, and what do our Democratic friends have to do in return? We have to adjust the age of retirement because we're all living so much longer and we have to ask people in my income level, I make $175 thousand a year, I'm not saying I'm worth it, but that's what we pay ourselves.
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We're going to ask upper-income Americans to take smaller benefits, not draconian-cuts, but some, smaller COLAs to get the baby boomers through retirement in dignity without whipping out the country.
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Now that's Simpson-Bowles.
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10:13:43
So when you hear a -- when you hear a Republican say, "I won't do revenue." That means that you're not going to help the country. When you hear a Democrat say, "We don't need to deal or mess with Social Security Medicare." That means you got your head in the sand.
We're $70 dollars short of the money we need over the next 75 years to pay the Medicare Social Security Bills. If you took the entire wealth of the one percent, including their dogs...
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... everything, you're $30 trillion, you're half of what you need, you're not going to grow the economy enough to close the gap, and if you eliminate the Defense Department, which is 20 percent of one third of the budget, you don't even move the needle.
So we know what to do, let's just do it.
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10:14:35
Immigration. I had six primary opponents over this one topic. I've been working on this for a decade, I'm called Lindsey Grahamnesty and Lindsey Gomez.
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To all the Gomez's other there, I'll try to honor the family name.
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My big sin was I would sit down with Democrats and try to find the way forward to deal with a very difficult issue.
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And I tell you what the -- the trade-offs are simple; on the Republican side, once we secure the border, which we all want, once we increase legal immigration, which most of us believe we need, crush her (ph) down to two workers unless you have a bunch of kids after you're 67, you better be looking around for workers. Most all of us want to control who gets a job from the National E-Verify system, but we break down at the 11 million. Here's the problem on my side of the isle; we cannot seem to embrace a rational solution to the 11 million.
10:15:37
Anytime you touch this it's amnesty this and amnesty that. The one thing I'm here to tell you is that you can talk about immigration reform, you can vote for immigration reform in the reddest or red states and you can still win because I am still here.
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So we had -- I had six opponents from mildly disturbed to completely insane.
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The insane guy's the one I worry the most about. I won by 41 points, and here's what I told people in South Carolina, "Tell me how you deport 11 million people, physically do it. Tell me how you fix immigration without one Democratic vote." To my Democratic friends, if you will meet me in the middle I will meet you in the middle, and we have done it time and time again, so...
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10:16:45
If I am president of the United States we're not going to quit until we get this right. And my friends in the House, we have sent you three bills that got over 65 votes dealing with immigration comprehensively, it is time for you to up your game.
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Once you secure your border, once you control who gets a job, once you increase legal immigration, no one wants a felon as to the 11 million who are non-felons. You stay on our terms, you have to learn our language; I don't speak it well, but look how far I've come.
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10:17:26
You have to pay a fine, you have to pay taxes, you have to get in the back of the line and you have to wait 10 years for a green card, but here's what I will never agree to: I hate the European model of second-class citizens. If we're going to let you stay here all of your life we're going to let you be part of the country.
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How many of you here believe climate change is real?
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I do too.
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10:18:07
So here's the trade-off; for those of you who believe climate change is real you're going to have to deal with a guy like me who will push a lower carbon economy over time in a business friendly way. The great trade-off is energy producers and environmentalists in a room trying to find over a 50 year period a way to go to a lower carbon economy in the mean time, responsibly exploring for fossil fuels that we own and trying to create alternative energy in every sector of the economy.
10:18:43
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GRAHAM: It is to me, folks, a problem needs to be solved, not a religion. So our -- so my friends on the left who making this a religion, you're making a mistake. To my friends on the right who deny the science, tell me why.
I'm not a scientist, I made a D science. You know why? Because she'd never given an F.
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10:19:03
So. But I've been to the Antarctic, I've been to Greenland, I've been to Alaska and I've heard from people who live in these regions how the climate is changing. And when 90 percent of Climatologists tell you it's real, who am I to tell them they don't know what they're talking about. So the...
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... the trade-off is Joe Lee Rimming, John Kerry and Lindsey Graham got closed (ph) and we had the whole spill in the Gulf. More nuclear power because it's a good job creating method of energy, it's non-emitting. Exploring for all in gas in a reasonable way. Pushing low carbon technologies, having the government involved until we can get a foot hold on a lower carbon alternative energy economy in setting carbon targets that would give America clean water and clean air. Those are the trade-offs.
10:19:58
Finally, and I'll take questions, there's no foreign policy element to no labels. Should there be? Let me tell you about a group who buys into no labels. Radical Islam is very much into no labels; they look out into this audience and they don't see anything different, and if you spent two minutes you'd see a lot of things different in this audience in terms Liberal, Conservative, Moderate, Libertarian, Vegetarian.
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Baptist, Jew, you name it we got it. They see us all the same; we're Americans, we buy into the idea of worshipping God the individual way, not the group way or maybe not at all. We buy into electing our leaders, not having them thrust upon us. We buy into the idea that young women have value.
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10:20:57
So here's the thought, if we can't agree that Radical Islamic terrorists, who crucify children, who sell women into slavery in the name of God, who slaughter everybody in the faith that disagrees with them, who throws gay couples off roofs. If we can't come together and say that we stand united against you, we're making a mistake.
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10:21:30
So I will tell you ladies and gentlemen how to solve this problem with terrorism is a bit complicated. Uniting against it should be as easy as wanting to solve the other problems I just described. Let me just say this in ending; three thousand of us died on 9/11 for one reason: they couldn't kill more of us. If they would they could. I've never been more worried about another 9/11 then I am right now. The enemies of mankind, not just this nation, are getting stronger and getting more lethal by the day.
10:22:16
I hope that no labels could find some accommodate for foreign policy plank that says the following, "America should lead, we should be involved, we should help others deal with the problem, common to mankind and it is more than dropping a bomb." I am the chairman of the Foreign Operations Sub-Committee, in charge of all the foreign aid in the federal budget. I believe that the PEPFAR Program that Bush created in Africa is making a safer and is making us better.
10:22:53
I believe that foreign assistance will do more damage to radical Islam over the arc of time than a bomb. I believe that educating a young, poor girl in a remote region in the Mid-East is the ultimate antidote to terrorism.
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I believe that America, at her best, is the hope of mankind. Let us be at our best. Thank you.
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10:23:39
QUESTION: Senator, welcome to New Hampshire. Representative of Balus Herald (ph). My question to you is -- is a veterans issue, and I know you're a veteran, you've been up there many years. You all passed a Veterans Accountability Act, and a lot of people bragged about it and used veterans as political pawns and not one person was fired. There's a bill of 10-82 on the Veterans Accountability Act where only a few senators have signed on board. My question is why have you and none of the Republicans and Democrats come together, it's been up there for years, to fix the V.A. system where we got veterans dying?
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10:24:21
GRAHAM: One, thank you for your service. The reform that we did pass, with Senator McCain's leadership, allows veterans a choice card if they live over 40 miles from a facility, they can go to a local doctor or a hospital. If you wait over 30 days you can access a local doctor or hospital. In New Hampshire your local provider's in Vermont. So that was a pretty big deal for people in New Hampshire, but your point is well taken.
We're fighting a bureaucracy that's not going to give up without a fight. How about this idea? If you've served your country and you're eligible for health care, give you a card where you can go anywhere you want to go anytime you want to go.
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10:25:08
Now that costs money, but money well spent. But you can't do that unless you deal with entitlements. By 2040 all the money you spend in taxes or -- send in taxes goes to pay Medicare Social Security and interests on the debt. Do you get where I'm coming from? There'll be no money left for the Department of Defense, no money left for the Department of Education, no money left for the V.A.. If you don't turn it around the tsunami of entitlement spending by age taxing, means testing and flattening out the tax code to generate revenue, it is all talk. So count me in for helping the veteran, count me in for helping the Alzheimer's patient, count me in for helping people overseas who need our help to reconstruct their lives so they can push back against radical Islam.
Count me in for all this, but let me tell you, none of it's going to happen if the next president of the United States can't get us in a room and do something like Simpson-Bowles.
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10:26:10
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
GRAHAM: Can't hear you.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
GRAHAM: The crowd's turning on you.
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10:26:22
QUESTION: As far as I know, the Constitution requires Congress to declare war. Last time Congress declared war, to my knowledge, in December of '41. We've been in a lot of wars and we haven't won very many since then. So would you require a congressional deceleration of war before we go, and then if you declare war, go to win it?
10:26:48
GRAHAM: All right. I think we've declared war five times in the history of the Nation. The one thing you can't have is 535 commander and chiefs; that's not a way to conduct military operations. So the bottom line is would I seek congressional authorization to use force to destroy ISIL in Syria? Yes, I would, but I don't think I'm required to do so because I think ISIL is a direct threat to our homeland.
How many of you believe that ISIL wants to hit us if they could?
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How many of you believe that the number one job of the president of the United States is to be commander and chief and protect the homeland?
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10:27:35
So let me tell you what I would do to destroy ISIL.
You're not going to do it from the air; you got to have a ground component. We have 3,500 Americans on the ground in Iraq, General Kane (ph), who's the architect of the surge, says we need about 10 thousand. The good news is that's a fraction of what we've had in the past; a couple Army aviation battalions with American helicopters flown by American pilots to take the fight to ISIL and Ramadi and Mosul more affectively. Special forces on the ground; if they've picked up the phone, they got in the car, we'd be on top of them to disrupt their operations. Forward air controllers to drop bombs on the right people, 70 percent of the air craft come back with the bombs on the racks. Trainers at the battalion level so the Iraqis won't cut and run. That's what I would do, and I want you to know that before you vote, that if you vote for me, whatever it takes as long as it takes till we destroy these bastards is my view of ISIL.
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Now as to Syria. I don't know if there's anybody left to train, but a no fly zone would be a great relief to the Syrian people.
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Establishing a place for them to go without being barrel-bombed would be a great step. A safe-haven enclave to start training people without fear of being killed, having the region buy into what we're doing. The good news is that every Arab country and Turkey is against Assad being in power because he's a puppet of Iran. And the real good news is the Syrian people are not radical Islamists, to say they are is a slander to them; I have been there a lot and they're not going to accept Assad as their leader because he's massacred their families.
10:29:13
So what would I do? I'd ask for a regional force, create an enclave, train the free Syrian army for affectively and support them from a regional point of view, and I would ask Congress to help me and I would go in with a goal of winning, and when you bring them down you better stay because if you leave too soon it repeats itself again; this is a generational struggle. Syria has been raped and decimated, the amount of money to reconstruct Syria is going to be enormous, but it should come from the entire world, not just us. The Arabs should pay for this war, we've paid for the last two.
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10:29:51
None of that's possible unless you rebuild your military; we're on track to have the smallest Army since 1940, the smallest Navy since 1915, we'll be spending half of what we normally spend on defense, 2.3 percent in terms of GDP by 2021, given the threats that's insane. And it's just not the defense budget that's being cut, the NIH budget's being cut, the CDC's budgets been cut. So let's replace these defense cuts, non-defense cute, across the board with more rational ways of getting out of debt, and that goes to entitlement reform and tax cut reforms. So the answer to me -- to your question is that I would seek Congress' blessing, but I would not let a dysfunctional Congress keep me from defending America against an enemy that is surely coming here.
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And I am fighting to win; winning is my goal, destroying these bastards is my goal.
10:30:45
QUESTION: All right, thank you Senator Graham for being here. My name is...
GRAHAM: Strong letter to follow.
QUESTION: ... my name is Kyle Oasting (ph), I'm the No Labels College Chapter Leader at Indiana University.
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I just want to say...
GRAHAM: Do you know anybody in New Hampshire?
QUESTION: Do I know anybody in New Hampshire?
GRAHAM: Yes, because Indiana's way down the road.
10:31:08
QUESTION: I know, right?
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I just want to say as a Republican as well, thank you for running for president and for being a voice of reason in this race, it's much appreciated.
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A few years ago Wall Street crashed and they got a bail out while the middle class still crashed and they haven't gotten a bail out. Today Wall Street is doing greater than ever. What is -- what is your plan, specifically, to make sure than Main Street gets their bail out? Because it's long overdue.
Thank you.
10:31:35
GRAHAM: OK, thank you.
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Rather than the government bailing out Main Street, how about creating jobs on Main Street?
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If you think the government is the salvation of the middle class don't vote for me. If you think jobs are the salvation for the middle class vote for me.
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A little about me. I grew up in the back of a liquor store, this is why I would be a good president for you.
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My mom and my dad, neither one of them finished high school, they owned a liquor store, a bar and a pool room. We lived in one room until I was in high school. I was well loved, they worked six days a week; it's a hard way to make a living. When I was -- I went to college for the first time of anyone in my family in 1975 after coming back from my first vacation to Disney World, which was like going to Mars...
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... my mom was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease. By June of '76 she had passed. We got wiped out because we were under insured. 15 months later my dad dies, I'm 22 my sister's 13. If it had not been for Social Security Survivor Benefits we would not have made it, so when I talk about Social Security I know what I am talking about. I would give up some benefits today; I'm 60, I'm not married, I don't have any kids, I've got a 401(k) plan, I've got a congressional retirement, I got a military retirement, I would gladly give up some COLA and shave my benefits to save a system worth saving so it's there for other people who need for than I do.
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To -- to those who worry about the economy, a $15 minimum wage is going to displace people, not grow the middle class. The middle class is somebody who has to not go on vacation when the child's sick. You make too much to be on government assistance, but you still live paycheck to paycheck. Let me end on this note; competition for labor is the best hope of the middle class. When a bunch of people wanting to hire you, not a few people.
10:33:46
So why did Boeing come to South Carolina? They could have gone anywhere in the friggin' world. Why did Valvo come to South Carolina? Why did BMW come to South Carolina? Because we wanted them to come to South Carolina. We would take your work force needs, go to the technical colleges and train a work force superior to second to none, ready to go, helping you help yourself; we would get permits done in times that you never even envisioned, still being environmentally sensitive. We had a tax structure that welcomed you; there's a reason they came to South Carolina, and let me tell you what happened to the middle class in South Carolina. Everybody who has a manufacturing business had to pay more because if you didn't your employee was going to go to Boeing. The best thing I can do for waitresses in this country and waiters is to train an environment somebody will open up a restaurant across the street and hire you away.
10:34:46
I want to take what we did in South Carolina to Washington. I want to unleash the greatest economy in the world; people are more screwed up then we are. We're this far away from energy independence, manufacturing with the right kind of tax code can bloom, we can take this money partner (ph) overseas, bring it back in and One Time Good Deal and the Highway Trust Fund, we can build roads and we can build bridges, and these technologies you have in your pocket may be made in China, but they were invented here.
10:35:16
Our best days are ahead. We're going to lean into our enemies, we're going to hold each other and we're going to solve problems for the good of us all.
Thank you very, very much.
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MARTIN OMALLEY SPEECH:
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09:03:20
O'MALLEY: Thanks, very, very much. OK, thank you. Governor Engler, thanks very, very much. One little correction by way of problem solving, as you can see from the backdrop behind me. I am not yet in Las Vegas. But I will be going out to Las Vegas. I am talking to you from Baltimore, Maryland. Land of the free and home of the brave, and it's a great honor to be able to talk with all of you, at least in this way.
And I'm looking forward to the Democratic party finally joining this game, and having a debate about how we solve our nation's problems. It's a wonderful idea, isn't it? Both parties having debates?
09:04:00
So, look, I want to thank Senator Lieberman. I want to thank Governor Huntsman. And I also want to thank Governor Engler. And I especially want to acknowledge Nancy Jacobson, who I've known for many, many years, and is the founder of the No Labels movement.
I thought I would share a few ideas with you before we go to question and answer. And as I often say when I'm given the talk on the chair in New Hampshire, by golly, if you have answers, make sure you raise your hand first.
09:04:28
Because really, what we are doing in the context of this presidential campaign is not only selecting a person to lead us forward, but also we are on a search for answers, aren't we? That sort of deeper understanding that we must achieve as a people that actually precedes the better actions we need to take as a country. The better actions that will make our country stronger, so we can give our children and future with more opportunity and -- rather than less. So, let me do a couple of things in the next few minutes before we open it up. I want to share with you first of all my take on what I believe are -- the theory of our case is as a nation right now, and then I want to share with you a little bit about my experience, which is the experience of solving problems. And then I want to talk to you about something I'm seeing out in our country today, which is not only a yearning for new leadership, but the emerging of a new way of governing, which I see coming up and emanating out of our cities and towns and also coming up from the attitudes and the perspective of the next generation of Americans. So let's begin, shall we?
09:05:36
You and I are part of a living, self-creating mystery called the United States of America. But the promise that's at the heart of that mystery is actually a very real and concrete promise. It's a covenant among us and between us that says wherever you start in our country you start, but through your own hard work, your own talent, you should be able to get ahead.
Call it the -- call it an economy that works for all us, call it the American Dream, it is the actions that solve problems and address challenges in every generation so that we can include more of our people more fully in the economic success of our country. That's what it means to be an American.
09:06:23
The truth of our times, the hard truth of our times that we must acknowledge, however, is this. While we have come a long way since the Wall Street crash of 2008, our country still faces big challenges and big problems. Thanks to President Obama's leadership, we are now creating jobs again as a country. And of course, we're the only species on the planet without full employment, so there is no progress without jobs.
So our country is doing better, but the hard truth of our times is that 70 percent of us are earning the same or less today than we were 12 years ago. And that's not how our economy is supposed to work, that's not how our country is supposed to work.
There is a growing injustice in our country today, and this growing injustice is leading to income inequality like we haven't seen for a hundred years and declining opportunities for our kids. And this problem won't solve itself, we need to solve it.
09:07:22
We are Americans. Our economy is not money, it is people, it is all of our people. And so we have to invite one another -- Democrats, Independents and Republicans -- to return to the table of democracy and solve these problems, not with words but with actions.
My experience is the -- not the experience so much of a legislator, but my experience as a mayor and governor is the experience of an executive, of a person who has forged new consensus after new consensus in order to get things done. What sort of things? I'm talking about tackling the worst violent crime problem of any city in America and achieving record reductions in violent crime, even as we achieved record reductions in our incarceration rate.
09:08:15
I'm talking about making our public schools number one in America. I'm talking about making college more affordable for more people by going four years in a row in a recession without a penny's increase in college tuition. Passing a living wage, raising the minimum wage, passing marriage equality and the DREAM Act and passing the most comprehensive gun safety legislation of any state in America after the slaughter of the innocent in Newtown.
Now, none of those things were -- none of those things was easy; they were all difficult. And we didn't get them done by running to our labeled corners. No. Instead, we invited one another to come with ideas to help us solve these problems. And that is the new way of leadership that I believe the people of our country are demanding of all of their elected leaders.
09:09:09
One of the happy things I came home with after traveling around the country for a year before I was -- before I made the decision to run for president was the realization that most people in our nation actually feel a lot better about how their cities are run today than they did 10 or 15 years ago. Why is that? It's not because their cities are necessarily rolling in cash; in fact, we haven't had a federal program and a federal action for cities in decades. What -- the reason why people are feeling better about how their cities are governed is because of entrepreneurial men and women who take on that title of mayor and actually go to work every day to get things done. They're not afraid of the information age, they know everybody can see and know things at the same time they do, so they don't obsess with trying to maintain a time advantage that they know things before the public knows them.
09:10:07
Shimon Peres, I once heard speak, and he said that, in this information age, the people are now smarter than their leaders and they know more than their leaders.
So, what does this mean for us as states and a country? I believe that we need to embrace new technology, the Internet, geographic information systems to make our state and federal governments performance measured entities, so that all of us, as citizens controlling this enterprise can see whether we are doing better this week than we were last week.
But most of our governments are led on the tyranny of last year's budget. Lots of department heads can tell you what sort of budget they want for next year, but very few of them can tell you specifically, at least at the state and federal levels, whether we are doing any better this week in solving our problems than we were last week. But in cities, they can, increasingly, more and more.
09:11:01
You see, the nature of leadership has changed, as I see it. And this is -- especially want to talk to the young people who are there in the room. In the time that you have come of age, there has been a big shift in leadership.
And I'm going to hold something up and show it to you. It used to be that leadership was this triangle, this hierarchy, this pyramid of command and control where the leader needed to be at the top and have all the information and hoard it, and things got done on the basis of because I said so, or worse, on the basis of ideology.
But the nature of leadership has changed in the information age. And the place for the leader to be now is in the center of the emerging truth, in a circle of collaboration and cooperation, and yes, dialogue and communication around problem-solving, asking one another every day, are the things we are doing working to achieve a better result, or not?
09:12:12
If they are, we should do more of it . If it's not, we should stop doing it and do less of it.
So, that is the way I have always governed. And I think part of what has allowed the to do that is I am of a different generation than some of my older baby boomer brothers and sisters or parents. I don't ask if an idea is from the left or from the right, or whether it's Democratic or Republican, I ask whether it works. And if it works, we do it.
And that is how we have been able to achieve some pretty nation-leading results and actually get some things done before any political pollster would tell you it was popular.
09:12:52
So, what does that mean for our country today? I believe that it means we need to take actions, and have the guts to show people that the things we are doing are actually working. We are a great people. We still have another 240 years of creative service ahead of us. And that is why I have laid out 15 strategic goals to rebuild the truth of the American dream, so that every family can get ahead, so wages go up again with productivity and not down.
09:13:22
So that a college degree is actually a gateway to a life of opportunity, not a trapdoor to a lifetime of debt. And to square our shoulders to the great challenge of our time of climate change, and actually create a 100 percent clean electric energy grid by 2050, and create 5 million jobs along the way.
Let's be honest with one another.
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09:13:45
It is not about words, it is about actions. And each of the goals that I have put forward, things like national service to cut youth unemployment in half in the next three years, things like cutting the deaths from gun violence in half in the next 10 years.
All of these things have dates attached to them. Why? Because the difference between a dream and a goal is a deadline. These problems won't solve themselves. We need to solve them.
And I thank you, No Labels, for having me with you this morning in this way, and I look forward to your questions, and more importantly, I look forward to your answers.
And I need your help. Thanks a lot.
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09:14:38
MODERATOR: Thank you very much, Governor. And if you were here, you would be right in the center of the knowledge. Right in this stage, it is all around, all sides.MODERATOR: And the first question is coming from a lady -- right over there, I saw a hand go up over there. So, let's start with you, ma'am.
09:14:55
QUESTION: Hi, I'm Jessica (ph). I'm from Manchester, New Hampshire. I want to thank you for being with us.
My question for you is rather specific. What would your energy policy look like as president? And do you think we should utilize our national resources to create jobs and grow the economy, while also working on solar and wind power?
09:15:16
O'MALLEY: Well, sure. The -- let me -- let me say this. I have put forward -- I am the only candidate in my party, or I should say, I can safely say I'm the only candidate in either party, to put forward a plan to move us forward to a 100 percent clean electric energy grid by 2050.
We did not land the man on the moon within all-of-the-above strategy. We landed a man on the moon because we faced up to a huge engineering challenge. We were intentional about the choices we make. So, this is what my -- and I commend you, please, go on my website. It's jonhuntsman.com <http://jonhuntsman.com/>.
(LAUGHTER)
09:16:03
Now, I'm just kidding. I wanted to see if you all are still listening. It's actually martinomalley.com <http://martinomalley.com/>. And we have put a pretty specific proposal out there. Among some of the leading actions, in order to move us to that clean electric energy grid, I believe we need to stop subsidizing fossil fuel extraction...
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And instead, and act long -- and instead, enact long-term investor credits first solar and for wind. I believe that we need to embrace clean technology and energy conservation technology. We need to see, through more investments in workforce housing and affordable housing, the advent of a new type of housing that is nit zero in its energy use. That could bring forward a whole new era of clean design and clean architecture, in terms of our built environment.
09:17:07
And I believe we need to make investments in the clean energy grid that will enable us to move the natural resources, renewable resources that we have, from places where wind is abundant, to places where energy is heavily used. What does that mean? That means, instead of drilling for oil off the Chesapeake Bay and the East Coast of the United States, we should be laying the vertebrae and the power lines so we can create wind off the East Coast, where so many of our people live.
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And in the heart of American cities, where unemployment is actually higher now in many, many cities, than it was eight years ago, we need to throw ourselves into a whole program of training, workforce training, and retrofitting of old buildings in order to reduce energy consumption.
09:17:58
If we do all of these things, and if we invest more, rather than less in developing base load cleaner, greener technologies, like the next generation of safer nuclear, we can get to 100 percent clean electric grid by 2050, but it's not going to happen by itself, and it's not going to happen by embracing nostalgia.
Every job is important. We need to be intentional about those might have to transition in this clean economy, but we will not get there without solving this problem moving forward in an intentional ways, and that is what I intend to do as president.
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09:18:32
MODERATOR: Very good. All right, Governor, you can see in the room, with all of these green shirts, all these problem solvers that are here in the room, but we have a superhero that's going to ask the next question, it's Problem-Solver Man.
He's right here in the room, he's got the mic, and he is ready to go.
Problem-Solver Man, go ahead.
09:18:52
QUESTION: Hello. Governor O'Malley, how are you doing? Can you hear me?
MODERATOR: He can hear you.
O'MALLEY: Did Problem-Solver Man -- Problem-Solver Man, do you have a theme song?
QUESTION: I don't, but I am in Spandex, I don't know if you can see that.
(LAUGHTER)
But I'm in -- oh, I have some advice for -- you for -- you are going to Las Vegas tonight, right?
09:19:10
O'MALLEY: Yeah, I'm going in a couple -- in about an hour.
QUESTION: OK, cool. I'm sure you're getting a lot of political advice, but I'm just going to give you some advice my grandma gave me when I turned 21 and went to Vegas. Don't gamble.
That's my main advice; just be careful. But I guess my question for you is, Governor, you know, you have talked about how you will be a bipartisan president.
So, within your first 100 days of office, which bipartisan restaurant would you take John Boehner to?
(LAUGHTER)
Or, you know, whoever.
09:19:39
O'MALLEY: I didn't know that restaurants were partisan. I thought that food and alcohol, in fact, were decidedly nonpartisan.(LAUGHTER)
O'MALLEY: Let me -- can I -- but let me -- Problem-Solver Man...
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MODERATOR: There is a question in there somewhere.
O'MALLEY: Yes, yes.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
09:20:03
O'MALLEY: I -- I think the -- let me answer the call of your question that's in there somewhere. This is what I have learned as a mayor and as a governor. You have to call the legislature the time, and you -- when -- you have to make sure that -- that you -- you relate and talk to people like people.
In other words, I think it was de Tocqueville who said that one of the unique things about America is the strength of our soft ties. Our ability to hold different political opinions and political views, but still be able to relate to one another as human beings.
09:20:38
And one of the sad byproducts, if we're not careful of it, is -- of this information age, is that we can program our phones, we can program our TVs, we can program the -- the streams of news we receive so that we only -- we only talk to people who think most exactly like us. And there's a danger in that.
So some of the things we got done in Maryland, we only got done with Republican votes. And I believe that part of the reason that happened was because we were very intentional about having -- about -- about having -- you know, nonpartisan, bipartisan pizza night at the -- at the governor's mansion, at making sure that we broke bread and treated people decently and -- and invited people to -- you know, a -- a holiday open house, and -- and all sorts of other things, with -- regardless of party label.
09:21:32
And so were it not for some Republican votes, I would not have been able to repeal the death penalty, something that took us three tries, and were only able to do with some Republican votes. I would not have been able to pass marriage equality, again, something that took us three tries and that we were only able to do because of some Republican votes.
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09:21:54
And as I -- as we went back and -- and researched the -- the priority bills that I put in as governor, I was happy to see that 75 percent of the governor's bills -- and we only do about a dozen every session -- 75 percent of them received bipartisan support in one house or the other -- or rather, majority Republican support in one house or the other.
And I think we have to stay focused on the goals that unite us and the principles that unite us. Our belief in (ph) the dignity of every person. Our belief in our own responsibility to advance the common good we share. Thank you, Problem-Solver Man.
09:22:33
QUESTION: Thank you.
MODERATOR: Thank you, Governor.
QUESTION: So essentially -- essentially, more pizza parties in Congress.
MODERATOR: Governor, we've got a question down -- I've got a hand...
O'MALLEY: Well, I don't -- it's not that -- it's not that simple. It's not that simple, but it -- it -- but sometimes it does come down to just treating people like human beings, and -- and picking up the phone, and calling members, and asking them their perspective, knowing what their wives' names are...
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...knowing -- you know, what they do in life, knowing who their kids are. You know? We have to treat people like people.
09:23:03
MODERATOR: Well, Governor, we've got 10 minutes left. Let's see if we can get another question in.
O'MALLEY: OK.
MODERATOR: All the way down the aisle there.
O'MALLEY: We'll do light -- let's do lightning round, Governor.
(CROSSTALK)
O'MALLEY: How about we do lightning round? How about if the questioner does 30 seconds, I will be 30 seconds.
MODERATOR: All right, very good. First one.
09:23:17
QUESTION: Well, I hope this takes you more than 30 seconds. My name is Ken Mason, I'm a resident of New Hampshire.
I made the mistake of going on YouTube and looking at the 1992 presidential debates, and what I saw was the exact same issues that are being brought up this year. It tells me that nothing effective has happened in more than 20 years in Washington.
You're a person of great influence. I think that's great. What I'm asking you today is what will you do to unlock that gridlock, regardless of whether you are the elected president or not?
O'MALLEY: OK.
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09:24:05
O'MALLEY: I believe that all of us have a responsibility to -- to stay at the table, not to check out, not to not assume that big money has taken over our politics. Not to assume that these -- you know, that the -- the outcome is determined before we have the conversation.
And so that's what I intend to do. And that's what I have done all my life. There's no easy -- there's no easy solution to the gridlock that we see now. I would -- I would push back on you a little bit. I think it's actually a lot worse now than it was in 1992. And certainly, we suffered a huge setback when our country was nearly plunged into a second Great Depression. But I -- I do -- this is what I believe, though, and talking to young people in our country, I really find among people under 30, young Americans that deny climate change is real or think that we shouldn't come together to do something about it. I rarely find young Americans who want to...
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09:25:05
... bash immigrants. I rarely find young people that want to deny rights to gay couples or children, so that tells me we're actually moving in a better direction, in a more connected place, a more generous place.
(APPLAUSE)
And I'm going to attempt to continue to speak to that place and to call forward the good energy of our next generation.
09:25:26
MODERATOR: Governor, we want to wish you a -- I guess our lightning round has resulted in a lightning bolt taking me off this stage...
(LAUGHTER)
... and making room for the next panel. But we want to thank you from Baltimore, Maryland today for your willingness to be here, number one. You're the first, but won't be the last. And thank you for taking some questions and for your candor.
Well, thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Martin O'Malley. Thank you. Hey. Very good.
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CHRIS CHRISTIE SPEECH:
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CHRISTIE: All right. Good afternoon, good afternoon. I'm from not going to give any speech to this group. This is a group that knows what they want to talk about, knows what they want to hear about, and I'm much better giving you the time to ask me questions. So, no speech for me. Let's start -- let's just start with questions. Let's go.
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All right -- listen, this guy knows what he's doing. On the night the Mets are hosting their first baseball playoff game in nine years, he put the Mets hat on to get a Mets fan to get him the first question. You got it.
Smart guy. All right. Someone going to bring the microphone, or just yell it. Let's see.
Q: [INAUDIBLE]
13:18:15
I will repeat the question. Don't worry. They don't have a microphone to them yet. Yeah, OK. So, the question was, he said that my views on marijuana are well-known and that in the spirit of bipartisanship, he wants to know if I would be willing to meet states have way on recreational marijuana.
In the spirit of bipartisanship, no.
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13:18:53
And here's why. Here's why. There are a few reasons. The first one is that the laws in this country matter. They matter; and when we have lawless this in this country, we have a situation where folks feel like they can pick and choose which laws they like and which ones they don't. And you know, if we are ignoring a law you don't like, you are probably pretty happy. The minute we start ignoring a law you do like, all of a sudden, we have got a big problem on our hands.
So, I say to folks who want to legalize recreational marijuana, go to Congress and get a president who's going to legalize it and sign it. That's the way we do these things. Not by letting the states go off road and decide for themselves, well, we don't want to follow the laws here. Now, this is where I have the biggest problem with what is happening now. Because we don't have folks who are respect thing the law.
13:19:48
So, why is it the people of New Jersey have to follow the law that says there's no recreational marijuana, but the people in Washington state they don't have to follow it?
It doesn't make any sense.
And so, my -- so that's the kind philosophical reason, all right? But the bigger reason from a policy perspective for me is that it is a bad idea. And I believe it's a bad idea because every study I've seen shows that marijuana is a gateway drug to other drugs, and if you walk around to this state or many other states I've been in, including my own, we have enormous drug abuse problems, enormous drug abuse problems that we don't need to be adding to in this country.
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13:20:31
So, I would say let's hope this our attention on treatment of those folks who have the disease of drug addiction, and try to give them the tools they need to reclaim their lives. Let's not focus on those other issues. So, in the spirit of bipartisanship, the answer would be no.
All right. Right on the aisle, here.
13:20:53
QUESTION: Governor Christie...
CHRISTIE: No, no, I was picking this young lady right here. But I will get to you, then, OK.
QUESTION: Oh, thanks so much. Hi, Governor Christie. I'm actually a proud citizen of New Jersey, it's good to see you here today.
CHRISTIE: There we go. All right.
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13:21:09
QUESTION: So, as a college student, an issue that's very important to me and a large network of students I represent is that of global health, specifically funding for AIDS. And I know you are a big proponent of bipartisanship, and this is definitely a bipartisan issue over the years.
So I was wondering if you are willing to make the commitment already made by Senator Clinton and Mr. Trump today to work double the number of people on aids treatment around the world to 30 million by 2020, a path that would prepare us for an AIDS-free generation?
13:21:38
CHRISTIE: Sure, listen. First off, I'll just answer the question directly, the answer is yes. And let me tell you why, though. You are right it's a bipartisan issue and it was made a bipartisan issue by President George W. Bush.
And I'm extraordinarily proud of the president and what he did to say that this type of disease running rampant through parts of the world, when we know there was an ability to treat it and make people better was just immoral. And that the American people, not only have a responsibility, but that is who we are.
That if we have a way to help others who are suffering, that we're the group of folks in this world that stand up and help the suffering.
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13:22:22
And so, absolutely would join that commitment and think that it's not only the right thing to do, it's the smart thing to do. A healthier African continent in particular is better for world peace and stability. And that we should be shooting for that, and that is clearly one of the ways we could do it.
So, thank you.
All right. Let's go over to this side. Right there in the middle; you're waving your hand at me. Yes, sir, that one, right there. Yes.
13:22:53
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE).
CHRISTIE: Oh, man, how do I know it? It's like a feel thing, you know? We have a -- we have a feel thing between us.
OK, (inaudible).
13:23:03
QUESTION: All right, my question is this, Governor. Everybody says the best way to deal with public school education is to go back and let the districts handle the educational levels themselves.
But prior to No Child -- no, A Nation at Risk, all the local school districts had control over their school systems, and they -- some of them were decent and some of them were abysmal.
Do you really feel it in the nation's best interest, and in this technological age it is far more important to the United States, to the government, it is an issue of national security that we have highest level of education?
Now, everybody says No Child Left Behind was bad and whatever else was bad and go back -- how would you look at this to be assured every kid has the opportunity to have a world-class education?
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13:24:15
CHRISTIE: All right. First off, I agree with the premise of your question that education is not only a human rights issue, it's a national security issue. It's both.
But I do agree as we have watched the educational system evolved in our country that we are much better off having these decisions made at the local level, and here is why.
I don't believe there's anybody who cares more about a child's education than their parents. Now, we can always find exceptions to that rule, and there are kids who do not live in stable homes, who do not have the appropriate adult influences, we know that and I will talk about that in a second.
13:24:54
But in the main in America, the people who care most about a child's education are their mother and their father. And so, I want the educational decisions made as close to those two people as we possibly can, and I want to give them as much choice in their ability to educate their child as they can possibly have.
And that means everything from homeschooling to private and parochial schools, to charter and renaissance public schools, to regular public schools. I'm a regular public school guy. I went from k to 12 to the public schools in New Jersey and I feel like they served me extraordinarily well.
I married a woman who is number nine of ten children and she went to Catholic school her entire life as did the rest of her family. So when we got married and had children, I thought they should go to public school. Mary Pat thought they should go to parochial school. So of course, all four of our children go to parochial school.
(LAUGHTER)
13:25:47
CHRISTIE: And it's served them extraordinarily well and it serves me extraordinarily well to have agreed with Mary-Pat on that. So I think parents should be making those and I think they should be making those choices regardless of their economic ability to effectuate those choices. We should not be making these decisions based upon just, if you have enough money. It's what you believe in your heart is the best way for your child to be educated.
And my wife really believes, and she has brought me around to the belief, for our kids, that she wanted them having that religious education, enjoined with their academic education. And that's not the choice everybody else ought to make and it's not the choice my parents made. But I like those choices being made close to the local level and curriculum choices being made close to the local level.
13:26:41
Because then, if the curriculum has gone off the rails, you have the ability to be able to go to your local school board and raise hell over it. And if it's happening, quite frankly at the federal part of the education, good luck. Not going to happen. You are not going to have the same ability to affect it.
And so that's why I'm now -- I'm on the side of making those choices at the local level. But acknowledging in your questions that there's no perfect way to do this and that is why parental and adult involvement in making sure we are keeping an eye on what's happening in our schools in every respect is a responsibility that requires vigilance.
13:27:15
And if we are not doing it, we only have ourselves to blame for the education that our kids are getting because we are certainly spending enough money on it in America. We're not getting the results we need right now and we need to change that around, so. That is the way I would approach that problem. All right. Let's go up to the bleachers.
This guy. Right? With the glasses, right there. Yes sir.
13:27:35
QUESTION: Hello, Governor Christie. My name is A. Fontenez (ph). I am too from New Jersey.
CHRISTIE: Well, if you are from there, you know we don't say it that way. Come on.
QUESTION: I'm a big fan of yours by the way.
CHRISTIE: Thank you. You sound like a Saturday Night Live skit brother. Go ahead.
Good to see you. OK.
13:27:54
QUESTION: So, we here at No Labels really aim to reform our broken political system to make our country progress for the good of the American people. So my question for you is, if you are elected as our next President, what specifically will you do to reform our broken political system?
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13:28:15
CHRISTIE: Let me say this, I have a fundamental disagreement with the premise of your question. I don't think it is the system that is broken. I think it's the people who are running it better broken.
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CHRISTIE: I think, -- this is the same system we've had for a long time that can work. And it can work. But you have to understand that compromise is not capitulation. Right now, we have an attitude that says if you are willing to compromise, you are a capitulator. That's not the case. It's not the case at all.
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So first, we have to talk about the idea that people have to make the decision. I have a Democratic legislature. Senator Boxer (ph) said so on the introduction. So I wake up every morning knowing that they are not making a good day for me, OK? We don't agree on a whole lot and it's not like every morning they wake up and say how can we make the governor happy today?
In Washington, they use that as an excuse to do nothing. They say, well if they don't agree with me and they don't like me and I don't like them and I don't agree with them so I'm not going to do it. If that is what I had done in New Jersey for the last six years, I really like you.
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If I've done that in New Jersey for the last six years, we would not have capped property taxes, we would not have cut spending, we would not have vetoed taxes and kept them lower. We wouldn't have reformed teacher tenure. We would not have reformed pensions and benefits. Because everything I wanted in those areas, I did not get everything I wanted in those proposals.
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But I got more of what I wanted than I didn't want and I had to give a little bit to the other side to get them to come on board. I mean, I got pension and benefit reform sponsored by the Democratic Senate president who is the president of the iron workers local. OK? That is called compromise. That is called working together. So I don't believe the system is broken, what I believe is that the people we have employed to run it have broken their promise and their word to the American people. So what I would do going to Washington is do the same that I've done when I go to Trenton; when I have to stand up and fight I will, so I've vetoed over 400 bills since I've been Governor, more than any governor in New Jersey history. I've vetoed more tax increases than any governor in American history, and all those vetoes have been sustained.
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So when I need to fight on something that's important I fight, but I also have a room in the State House where I bring the members of the Legislature, the leadership, to sit whenever they want to talk and to reason together. And we can argue outside in public, but when we get in that room it's time to get business done and get business done for the -- for -- for the people of the State of New Jersey. But the only way you do that is to build relationships, and that's the last part of this. We don't make anything, we don't create anything. OK? We govern. That's all you do when your elected to these positions, and if you don't make personal relationships with the people on both sides of the isle, then guess what, it's never going to work because they won't trust you ever because they don't know you.
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The best bit of political advice, and I'll end the answer with this, the best bit of political advice I ever got was from a non-politician in a non-political setting. I was the U.S. Attorney in New Jersey, he was the Deputy Attorney General of the United States and he had been my colleague as the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan; he's now the director of the FBI, guy name Jim Comey. And Jim came to visit me when I was U.S. Attorney as my boss and when he was leaving I said to him, "What are you doing next?" And he said, "I'm going to the New York Times Editorial Board." And I said, "Jim, you're John Ash Croft's Deputy, you're in George W. Bush's administration, you're going to the New York Times Editorial? Look, of you have a death wish, what's wrong with you?" And he looked at me he said, "No, no Chris, you don't understand. I'm going to the New York Times Editorial Board because it's harder to hate up close."
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And it is extraordinarily good political advice everybody.
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It's harder to hate up close everybody, much harder to hate up close.
All right, I'll go to this gentlemen on the isle, right here.
13:32:15
QUESTION: Governor Christy, Steve Corbin from Iowa.
CHRISTIE: Yes, Sir.
QUESTION: Hopefully you know where Iowa is.
CHRISTIE: I've -- I've come to learn that, Steve, yes.
QUESTION: We've -- we've seen you there, thank you.
I have a simple question, I hope, for you. Why would any presidential candidate in any of the 535 representatives and senators ever be opposed to four goals of No Labels that are supported in the super-majority by Republicans, Democrats and Independence. Can you think of a reason why they would be opposed to any of the four goals of No Labels?
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CHRISTIE: Listen...
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CHRISTIE: You're -- you're now, Steve -- Steve you're in very dangerous territory now, because now you're trying to impute logical into the way political decisions are made sometimes, so.
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Be very, very careful about that. Listen, I wouldn't be here today if I didn't think that this organization and its goals were worthy and noble and achievable. OK? So that's why I'm here, otherwise I'd be someplace else.
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But remember too, remember too that every leader brings a unique skill set and approach to their job. And so there may be times where you see me going in one direction or another, and you think, "No, no, no, the target's over here." And my method to getting to the target may be to go this way and then that way to get to the goal. That's why trust is so important in this also, and there has to be a sense of trust that you develop with the people you represent because you're not always going to be able to, nor are they going to want to listen to every method you're going to employ to get where you want to get to, but let's agree on the goals, I think that's an important thing, and let's get organizations who really care about getting something done in this country.
I will tell you this, if I hear one more -- I just -- I want to turn off the news with all this stuff that's going on in Washington right now with who's going to be the Speaker of the House. Who cares? I mean, who cares?
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Because, quite frankly, whether it's been a Democratic speaker or a Republican speaker of late, they don't get anything done. I saw -- I watched these Sunday shows this weekend and I heard more talk about, "Well, who's going to decide the Committee chairs, and who will decide whether there can be free and open amendments and who's going to decide what bill gets brought to the floor?" You know what I want and what most of you want? How about they just do something? Do something...
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... rather than all this -- this intrigue in that city where all they want to do is talk about who gets the big office, who gets the big title and who's able to get the best table at the best restaurant in Washington?
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I'm bored, I think you are too, and especially as our country continues to deteriorate, I'd like the leaders in Washington to start telling me about what they believe and what their goals are, and then start to work towards achieving them together rather than continuing to bicker with each other over stuff that nobody in the main in America cares about, except for the people between Washington, D.C. and New York who ride that Acela train all the time.
All right. Other questions? That lady in the back. Right there. Yes, ma'am.
13:35:25
QUESTION: Thank you, governor, and thank you because you remembered you were going to call on me at the next event.
CHRISTIE: I did. I spotted you. It took a while. Big crowd here.
QUESTION: I have a question about the Social Security. I love the (ph) work -- working across the aisles. It's a great idea that No Labels wants to do.
But with our seniors living on an average of $16,000 a year for Social Security checks, what do you have to say about the cap on Social Security, making it fairer for the working class and lower middle class so we can survive? Thank you.
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CHRISTIE: In seven or eight years, Social Security is not going to be able to make the payments they make now. So take that in for second. In seven to eight years, a Harvard and Dartmouth study which came out just a few months ago said, Social Security will be insolvent.
Now, there's two different ways to approach this problem -- I guess there's three. The first would be what we were doing, which is to ignore it. That's one approach.
The second approach is to give the government more money, the third approach is to work on reforming the programs in order to make them affordable. I'd go for part three, and I'm the only person in the race who has actually put forward an entitlement reform plan, in detail.
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It's the first thing I did in this race, and the reason is because of what this woman said. We have so many people in this country who are dependent upon making sure they get their Social Security payment. So there's a few things we need to do.
First is we need to acknowledge a happy truth, which is we're all living longer. We're living longer, better lives. The average life expectancy for a woman in this country now is 83 years old. The life -- average life expectancy for a man is 79.
I saw a few women smiling out there. I want to let you know that 10 years ago, you were ahead of us by six years. Ten years later, you're only ahead by four. We are gaining on you.
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And that four-year vacation from us that you are expecting at the end of your life, you may not get it. You may be stuck with us the entire time.
Now listen: at 83 and 79, these programs were designed for people who died in their mid-60s. We're living 15 to 20 years longer and drawing from the Social Security fund for that much longer.
So let's acknowledge the fact that by having this happy circumstance because of medical science and pharmacology and all the rest -- eating better, better lifestyles -- we need to raise the retirement age. We need to raise it two years, I believe, and -- and phase it in over the next 25.
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That would mean one month in increase in eligibility a year for 25 years. Believe me, the world will not stop spinning on its axis because of this. And when I get accused of throwing Grandma off the cliff for this, all right, that means that is the highest, longest fall ever. It took 25 years for her to get from the top of the cliff to the bottom. So let's be serious and honest with each other.
Secondly, Social Security should be a program that is there for the folks who need it. We need to have Social Security be there for the folks who it makes the difference between living their old age in poverty or living their old age in dignity. The difference between rent and heat and food. Those are the people that we need to make sure we take care of.
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So I say to folks, if you're making over $200,000 a year in retirement income -- retirement income, that means you've got four million to five million bucks, at least, saved away -- if you do, I say to you, God bless you, great job.
I also say God bless America, because this is the only country you could have done it in. And I say you shouldn't get a Social Security check. You should not get a Social Security check.
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Now, I did a -- I did a town hall meeting in Exeter where someone yelled out to me, "I paid for it, I want my money back." I said, listen, OK. Two points on that -- first is, you're right, you should get it back, but the government lied to you and stole from you.
And I'm not the first one to point this out to you. There's no trust fund, everybody, OK? There's no lockbox. All right? There's IOUs in the lockbox. It's not there. They're spending your money today. So forget that, it's a fiction, and someone needs to tell you the truth about that. Because, guess what? You already know it.
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And secondly, there's plenty of things you pay for that you don't get money back for, but what you get back is peace of mind, right? So -- let's say like homeowner's insurance. Everybody who owns a home, you buy homeowner's insurance. You buy it in case your house burns down, or there's a flood, or there's a robbery. Some calamity that -- you know then the money will be there for you to rebuild your home.
Well, let's say you owned a home for 25 years, and you are going to sell it now and you never made it claim the entire time -- you invite the insurance company to the closing to ask for the money back?
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I think if you do, they won't come, but if they do, they'll just come to laugh at you. Because what they will say to you is what you got in return was the peace of mind, the knowing that when you put your head on the pillow at night, if something happened, we would be there to make you whole.
Social Security has to be the same thing. If you play by the rules and pay into the system, it will be there when you need it.
But I know -- my friend Mark Zuckerberg, when I talking about this entitlement reform thing said, "So, Governor, entitlement reform, tell me exactly what does that mean? I said what it means for you, Mark, is you get nothing -- you get absolutely nothing. You are going to get zero, brother.
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You don't need it, and then get it -- that's the way we have to take care of Social Security. And if we don't do it -- if we don't do it, I'm talking about option one, which some people say take the cap off the payroll tax and everybody pay more. Let me ask you a question. The government that lied to you and stole from you already, you think the way to solve this problem is to give them more money?
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Because believe me, next time, they won't do it, right? Next time they won't do it. Of course they will. If they get a choice between taking, cutting a program or increasing tax, or stealing from this pile of money over here that you all know is sitting there, but no one is using right now, so, we just borrow a little from that and it will be fine.
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Understand what politicians are like, OK? They're taking from that pile of money. Don't give them more. It's -- this is about the people who have done very well. If you take the cap off, it means taking it from them now and counting on the fact that the government won't waste it.
Or taking it from them later, when you have to trust the government at all, they have no part in the equation. Let's not trust the government to give them more money please, everybody. Let's take it on the backend, let's make Social Security solvent.
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And let's have it be there for the people who need it.
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All right, all right. Let's see, let's go to that gentleman in the plaid shirt down the aisle. Yes, sir.
Good, they're coming at you, look, they are all running at you.
They're either going to give you a microphone or arrest you, I don't know which one's going to happen, so.
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All right, it's a microphone. Good, I'm relieved.
13:42:20
QUESTION: Londonderry, New Hampshire.
CHRISTIE: Yes, sir.
QUESTION: When the government shuts down, that damages the full faith in the United States as the world leader for the monetary system. Now, what could you do, or what do you recommend be done so we never experience another shut down in government?
Because I feel my government should never shut down because of some stupid reason that they seem to come up with.
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CHRISTIE: Listen, I said this the last time it closed down -- it's a fundamental failure of leadership by everyone when government shuts down. A fundamental failure of leadership.
All you are getting hired to do is to govern, and then you stop governing and say that's OK? That is what you are hired to do. And so, for instance, in New Jersey, before I became governor, the governor was a guy named Jon Corzine, and he had a Democratic legislature. OK?
They closed down the government in 2006 because they couldn't agree on how much to raise taxes. Imagine -- you want to talk about the variety of stupid reasons to close down government? Here are two sets of people who said they ought -- they agreed, they wanted to raise taxes, but they couldn't agree on how much. So they shut down government.
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Now, this is -- put aside non-partisan or bipartisan, this is a Democratic legislature with a Democratic governor. They shut down government for that reason.
One of the things I said when I was running against Governor Corzine in 2009 was the government will never shut down on my watch, ever. I will make sure that it doesn't, it is my responsibility as governor to make sure. And I have had a much tougher task, I'd say, because I have a Democratic legislature with me as a conservative Republican governor.
We've gone through six years together and we have not closed down the government once. And here's why. Because we get in the room like adults and we make agreements. Agreements that neither one of us like sometimes, but we make agreements because we know our job is to make sure state parks remain open on 4th of July, to make sure folks who need human services in our state continue to get them.
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Because that is what we are supposed to be there to provide. The public safety has to continue, and our state police have to remain funded and out on the roadways.
It is not an option. And anybody who closes done the government has engaged in a fundamental failure of leadership with the American people, and if the federal government closes down sometime in the next couple of weeks, that's a pox not only on the House and Congress, it's a pox on the president of the United States. Because he has an obligation, too, to bring people in the room and get them to agree.
So, everyone is a failure when that happens. It hasn't happened on my watch in New Jersey, and if I'm president, it won't happen then, either.
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CHRISTIE: All right, all right. This gentleman right here.
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QUESTION: Thank you so much for being here today. I'm born and raised in Washington, D.C., and I wanted to ask you about a question that has not come up often. But we talk about the politicians and the gridlock in D.C., but we don't talk about the 650,000 residents that live there and lack a basic a democratic, fundamental right, and that's the right to vote in our Congress. We currently have no voting members there.
And I want to ask you why has this become at this conference, No Labels, why has this become a partisan issue that has prevented Washington, D.C. residents, the only capital of any country in the world, that doesn't have the right to vote. Why can we not get them this basic, Democratic right? Thank you.
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CHRISTIE: Because I think that we're the only the capital, and I'll have to check myself on this, but I think we maybe the only capital created just to be a seat of government. And the fact is that Washington, D.C. was created to be a seat of government. That is how it was created and what it was created for. And it is now expanded and grown into something different. But, I have to tell you the truth, I'm not one who has given this a whole lot of thought, but I will give you my initial gut reaction.
My initial gut reaction is, I don't think adding another person to Congress is going to help. And I just don't think fundamentally, it will help or make an enormous difference. I understand the philosophical argument you are making and I'm not completely rejecting it. But I have to be honest with you. I haven't given it enough thought to give you a really thoughtful answer about it.
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So, how about this. Somebody out here is going to come to my next town hall meeting here in New Hampshire when I'm back again next week. Make sure you ask me that question again. I'll give it some thought in the next week. But I don't want to give you an off-the-cuff answer that I haven't thought about. That's my initial instinct. But I will come back. I will give you a full answer on it.
All right. They have turned my screen blank, which means I can do what, one more? All right. The powers that be say one more, so I'm going to give one more. And let's go to this young lady right there in the middle.
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QUESTION: Hi Thank you, Governor.
CHRISTIE: Thank you.
QUESTION: So National Service is a really important program to communities across the country. I'm just wondering if you are elected, will you expand National Service?
CHRISTIE: Yes, I will, and for a few reasons. First off, the folks from Americorps were extraordinarily helpful to us in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy.
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CHRISTIE: We had Americorps volunteers from all over the country who came to New Jersey and stayed with us for months. Months helping us get people back on their feet, getting their lives back to some sense of normalcy. Helping to clean up debris, helping to rebuild. Helping to cook meals, helping to read to children when they were out of school. All different kinds of things that Americorp volunteers did that were indispensable, not only to helping us rebuild, but also to giving the people in my state were really suffering, a sense that they were not alone.
CHRISTIE: And I think that's an intangible that you cannot place a value on. And so the enthusiasm and compassion that Americorp members brought to New Jersey, made me an even bigger supporter of the program. I also think we need to expand National Services a way to start to deal with the student debt problem in our country.
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CHRISTIE: There's a whole bunch of layers to this which I can't go into now because my clock has run out but what I will tell you is that one of the options I think we need to give young men and women who graduate college with a significant amount of debt is for them to participate in National Service to work that debt off. It's going to be great for our communities. It'll be great for our communities and our states and our country.
And it will also give those young men and women in opportunity not to have to carry that milestone around their neck which prevents them from buying a home, starting a family and doing the kinds of things they want to do, because they leave with such an enormous amount of debt.
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Now we need to deal with the colleges and universities too. And I talk about that all the time, but I won't today because you asked about National Service. National Service is an important thing to honor in this country and not just in the military, but across all types of disciplines.
And so, I would give young men and women the opportunity to engage in National Service in a much broader way when they graduate from college and when they do so, to have them work off things on their student loan debt so that they are not carrying a mortgage of their own before they ever own a home in this country that prevents them from really starting their lives.
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So I thank those people for participating and I think we should expand it.
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So the screen up here now says, "Time ending, wrap up." And then in case you don't really clear on that in big red they put, "Time's up!" So I'm from New Jersey, which means, Hell I ignore stuff like that.
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I will just tell all of you that I think the gathering of all of you here today is enormously encouraging to me as a candidate for public office. That men and women of both parties and Independents who care deeply about this country's future are here today to try to make sure that those voices are heard and that you make sure you hear from us about what we believe in and what we're willing to stand for and fight for.
By you being here I know what you're willing to stand for and fight for, and that's a better America and a more stable world for everybody. I thank you for than. I thank Senator Lieberman and Governor Huntsman for what you're doing, I appreciate it very much.
Thank you for having me.
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