--SUPERS--\n:00\nMay 19, 2010\nLos Angeles\n\n:42\nDecember 28, 2016\n\nDallas, Texas\n\n1:30\nDecember 14, 2015\nLos Angeles\n\n\n --VIDEO SHOWS--\n-Mayhew on red carpet\n-interview with Mayhew\n-interivew with Mayhew on red carpet\n\n -----CNN INFO-----\n (CNN) -- Peter Mayhew, the original Chewbacca, has died, according to his agent.\n Mayhew, 74, died on April 30 with his family by his side in his North Texas home. He is survived by his wife, Angie, and three children.\n The Hollywood icon played Chewbacca in the original "Star Wars" trilogy, episode 3 of the prequels and the New Trilogy, according to a statement from his family.\n Mayhew, who once used a wheelchair because of a bum knee, stood tall to portray Chewbacca once more in "Star Wars: The Force Awakens." He also consulted on "The Last Jedi" to help teach his successor.\n "He put his heart and soul into the role of Chewbacca and it showed in every frame of the films from his knock-kneed running, firing his bowcaster from the hip, his bright blue eyes, down to each subtle movement of his head and mouth," his family said. "But, to him, the Star Wars family meant so much more to him than a role in a film."\n Mayhew started the Peter Mayhew Foundation to support people in crisis situations, including providing food and supplies for the children of Venezuela during their recent road to freedom.\n "His kindness, generosity and care will live on in the Peter Mayhew Foundation with Angie taking the helm as his voice," his family said.\n A memorial service for friends and family will be held on June 29. In early December, there will be a memorial in Los Angeles for fans.\n\n Tributes pour in for the 'Star Wars' legend\n\n Just two days before May 4, a day when "May the Fourth" puns run rampant, celebrities and "Star War" fans remember Mayhew as the man who inhabited the Wookie suit dating back to the '70s.\n "He was the gentlest of giants," said Mark Hamill, who played Luke Skywalker in the original trilogy. "A big man with an even bigger heart who never failed to make me smile & a loyal friend who I loved dearly-I'm grateful for the memories we shared & I'm a better man for just having known him. Thanks Pete."\n Fans shared images of meeting Mayhew at different conventions over the years. \n "I am so thankful that Mr. Mayhew found the strength to participate in this year's Star Wars Celebration, even after he had to cancel a day due to health reasons. I was honored that my wife @gokatteego and I could have our picture taken with him. It means so much to us," said Keith Forche, who shared a picture taken on April 13 at the Star Wars Celebration 2019 in Chicago.\n Dan Robinson, who met the legend at San Diego Comic Con 2004, said Mayhew brought life to a character no one could understand, other than Han, of course.\n "Body movements, head tilts, and expressive eyes. He was such a humble softspoken man that always took time for the fans," he told CNN. "He was my first 'Star Wars' actor I got an autograph from. I was in awe of being 6 foot 2 and watching my hand disappear into his when I shook his hand and thanked him for all he brought to 'Star Wars.' I've been a fan since I was 2 years old when I saw it in 1979 [at a drive-in] for a re-release."\n\n\n The man behind the 'Chewie' mask\n\n Standing 7 feet and 3 inches tall, Mayhew once said playing Chewbacca transformed him, according to a statement on the "Star Wars" fanchise site.\n "The attitude was different," he said about acting in the costume. "The walk was different. Do the scenes, come back, take the mask off, Peter was back."\n "Star Wars" first debuted in theaters on May 25, 1977, and ignited a major worldwide fandom.\n "Peter was larger than life in so many ways ... a gentle giant playing a gentle giant. Rest in peace," Disney CEO Robert Iger said.\n\n Mayhew's portrayal of the beloved "Star Wars" character was integral to the trilogy's success, Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy said.\n "When I first met Peter during 'The Force Awakens,' I was immediately impressed by his kind and gentle nature," she said. "Peter was brilliantly able to express his personality through his skillful use of gesture, posture, and eyes. We all love Chewie, and have Peter to thank for that enduring memory."\n\n\n --KEYWORD TAGS--\nPETER MAYHEW CHEWBACCA STAR WARS\n\n

AP-APTN-0930: US Skyscraper Tuesday, 1 May 2012 STORY:US Skyscraper- New 1 World Trade Center becomes New York's tallest building LENGTH: 02:49 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/POOL/AP PHOTOS/WABC STORY NUMBER: 739003 DATELINE: New York - 30 Apr 2012/Recent LENGTH: 02:49 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/ FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY/ STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/ INTERNET SHOTLIST AP TELEVISION NEWS - AP CLIENTS ONLY New York - 30 April 2012 1. Tilt up of One World Trade Center ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA OR INTERNET New York - April 30, 2012 2. Wide of beam on crane being lifted to the top of One World Trade Center (MUTE) AP TELEVISION NEWS - AP CLIENTS ONLY New York - April 30, 2012 3. People clapping as beam is put in place POOL - AP TELEVISION CLIENTS ONLY New York - April 30, 2012 4. Pull out of beam being put in place (making One World Trade Center taller than the Empire State Building) 5. SOUNDBITE:(English): Bill Baroni, The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey: "Becoming the tallest building in New York sends a very clear message: they didn't win (meaning attackers who flew planes into World Trade Center on 11 September, 2001) What we see here today is this determination to remember what we lost, and rebuild even higher. This is a great day for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, but it will be greater when this building is teeming with tenants and teeming with people going to work." AP TELEVISION NEWS - AP CLIENTS ONLY New York - April 17, 2012 6. Zoom in, shows One World Trade Center, Empire State Building behind POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY New York - April 30, 2012 7. SOUNDBITE: (English) Scott Rechler, The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey: "The development of this building, combined with the other buildings on the World Trade Center site will result in more than 14 (b) billion dollars of economic activity and when completed will serve as a centre for economic growth for decades to come." AP TELEVISION NEWS - AP CLIENTS ONLY New York - April 30, 2012 8. Wide of One World Trade Center 9. SOUNDBITE: (English) Vox pop, Michael Dortheimer, New Yorker: "The tallest unoccupied building. It's 10-and-a-half years and I live on the other side of the highway and it's taken long enough and it probably won't be occupied until maybe 2015. So what do I think? Non-event." 10. Driving view of One World Trade Center, on west side of Manhattan 11. SOUNDBITE: (english) Vox pop, Catherine McVay Hughes, New Yorker: "We're very happy to have our own diamond, our own building back, for being the way-finding (landmark) for lower Manhattan." 12. Wide of One World Trade Center construction workers 13. SOUNDBITE (English): John Miller, WTC steel erector: "It's been a long time coming man. Ground Zero World Trade Centre, tallest building in New York, back in effect." AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/ FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY/ STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE New York - Oct. 2010 to April 2012 14. Time lapse video from still photos of construction progress at One World Trade Centre from October, 2010 to April, 2012 STORYLINE: One World Trade Center, the monolith being built to replace the twin towers destroyed in the attacks of 11 September, 2001, claimed the title of New York City's tallest skyscraper on Monday, as workers erected steel columns that made its unfinished skeleton a little over 1,250 feet (381 metres), just enough to peep over the roof of the observation deck on the Empire State Building. After riding an elevator to the 90th floor, a small group of officials and journalists had to climb three steep ladders to reach the top platform, which was encircled by blue safety netting. Bill Baroni, The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, said the building sends a clear message to the attackers of 11 September 2001. "What we see here today," he said, "is this determination to remember what we lost, and rebuild even higher." New Yorkers seemed happy with the project but one pointed out that it was still the tallest unoccupied building, which had taken a decade to build and probably would not be occupied until 2015. "So what do I think? Non-event." he said Monday's milestone though, is just a stepping stone: workers are still adding floors to the building once called the Freedom Tower and when it reaches its full height next year it is likely to be declared the tallest building in the US, and third tallest in the world. Much depends on the status of a 408-foot-tall (124 metres) needle that will sit on the tower's roof: Count it, and the World Trade Centre is back on top. Otherwise, it will have to settle for Number 2, after the Willis Tower in Chicago. Even with the needle, which will function as a broadcast antenna, the world's tallest building will still be the Burj Khalifa, in Dubai, which opened in 2010 and stands at 2,717 feet (828 metres.) It's next nearest rival in New York is the Bank of America building. 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<p><b>--SUPERS</b>--</p>\n<p>File</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--VO SCRIPT</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Shooting survivors have ‘distressingly high’ risk of repeat firearm injury, study finds, especially young Black males</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Dr. Edward Barksdale needed answers and he turned to Cleveland’s SWAT team, the county juvenile detention center and the local police to get them.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Barksdale, a pediatric trauma surgeon and the surgeon-in-chief at UH Rainbow Babies and Children’s Hospital/University Hospitals, wanted to know exactly what it was that was sending the same kids to his operating room — shot not just once but on more than one occasion. One boy, only 7 years old, had been shot three separate times and needed three separate operations, he said.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>WASHINGTON, DC - APRIL 20: Several hundred high school students from the Washington area observe 19 minutes of silence while rallying in front of the White House before marching to the U.S. Capitol to protest against the National Rifle Association and to call for stricter gun laws April 20, 2018 in Washington, DC. Students marched to mark the 19th anniversary of the Columbine High School shooting and to demand that Congress pass 'common sense gun violence prevention legislation'. </p>\n<p>About 1 in 5 high school students have witnessed community violence, new CDC report says</p>\n<p>In fact, in one two-year period, Barksdale said, he operated on gunshot wounds in 70 kids, and 30% came back to the hospital because they’d been shot again. Most were Black boys ages 6 to 16.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Of that group, he said, another 30% would be back at the hospital in that same two-year period needing help after a suicide attempt or a major depressive episode.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“Most people see gun violence as a public safety issue. I see it as a public health issue that is basically driven by the sense of hopelessness,” Barksdale told CNN. “Primarily, these are young men who feel that there is no future.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Recurring gun injuries afflict communities far beyond Cleveland. New research, published Monday in the Annals of Internal Medicine, explored trends in St. Louis and found young Black men to be particularly at risk.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Barksdale decided that he could no longer just operate on these children again and again; he had to do something to give them hope. So in 2019, he helped create the Antifragility Initiative Program, one of several multidisciplinary hospital-based violence intervention programs across the US. It follows up with kids and their families to provide mental health, education and other services after hospital care to try to keep them from becoming victims of violence or trauma again.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“The point is, if you can build community around people and help people see a different purpose, then they don’t put themselves in harm’s way, because they see a different future for themselves,” Barksdale said.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>America’s gun epidemic claimed more than 48,000 lives in 2022, federal data shows, marking one of the deadliest years on record. And gun violence has become the leading cause of death among children and teens in the United States. But most gun injuries are not fatal, leaving thousands of victims to live with the resulting trauma.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“When you look only at the mortality data, you’re really getting just a microcosm of the full scope of the burden of disease,” said Dr. Kristen Mueller, an associate professor of emergency medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Along with the physical and emotional effects, survivors of firearm injury carry a “distressingly high” risk of being shot again, Mueller and others wrote in the new study.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>gun violence widespread impact kff 042023</p>\n<p>Gun violence has affected most families in the US, new survey finds</p>\n<p>About 1 of every 14 gunshot victims will be harmed by a firearm again within a year, according to the new research. Within five years, that risk rises to about 1 in 8, and it jumps to about 1 in 6 after eight years.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“That is pretty comparable to your risk of a second heart attack or a second stroke,” said Mueller, the lead author of the new study. “But these kids are young. They’re teenagers or in their early 20s, and they’re having two or more life-threatening events in a year or five years or eight years. It’s really concerning.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>The findings are based on patient records from four Level I trauma hospitals in the St. Louis area that participated in a regional hospital-based violence intervention program.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>The hospitals had medical records for about 9,600 people who were treated for a firearm injury from 2010 through 2019. About 1,200 were seen for a new firearm injury over the course of that decade, including 149 who died from a subsequent gunshot.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Victims of firearm injury were most likely to be young Black men — and the disparities were even more glaring among those who had a repeat injury.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>About 96% of patients with a repeat firearm injury were Black, compared with 87% of all patients with an initial firearm injury, the new study found. Patients with a repeat firearm injury also tended to be younger, with an average age of 25, compared with an average age of 29 for firearm injuries in general. More than 90% of patients with a repeat gun injury were male.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“When you talk to people who have been shot, they talk about the fear, that complete lost sense of safety,” said Dr. Kathleen O’Neill, a trauma surgeon at Yale-New Haven Hospital. She was not involved in the new study but has published other research on the topic, including extensive interviews with gun violence survivors.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“We discharge them from the hospital really half-healed, because we don’t address all of the social and emotional aspects of having been shot. We’re sending them back to a community that they don’t perceive as safe.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>(add caption)</p>\n<p>Black and Hispanic people in Chicago exposed to gun violence at ‘significantly and persistently higher rate,’ report says</p>\n<p>That fear may lead people to engage in more risky behavior themselves, she said. Victims might start carrying their own firearm and become more quick to solve a conflict with a gun.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>In the new study, researchers found that people living in socially disadvantaged neighborhoods were more likely to receive a firearm injury and were at increased risk for a repeat injury. But they also found that those place-based vulnerabilities were closely tied to structural racism.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“Patients in this study frequently lived in communities marked by decades of disinvestment,” the researchers wrote. “Such communities in St. Louis and elsewhere that experience concentrated disadvantages that include high poverty, unemployment, and income inequality also experience higher rates of firearm violence. Prioritizing community (re)investment approaches represents an important set of strategies to reduce community violence and promote public health and safety.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Despite growing attention on gun violence in the US, there is no comprehensive national data on nonfatal firearm injuries. The new research from St. Louis is the latest addition to a collection of smaller cohort studies that attempt to capture the broader toll that gun violence can have.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Earlier research found that there are at least two survivors for every death from gun violence. But the new study suggests that the ratio is much higher: closer to 7-to-1.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>People walk past the Dollar General store where three people were shot and killed the day before on Sunday in Jacksonville, Florida. </p>\n<p>A federal hate crime probe is underway after 3 people were killed in a racist rampage in Jacksonville, officials say. Here’s what we know</p>\n<p>Across the disparate studies, however, there is a “very reproducible phenomenon,” O’Neill said: Those who are most at risk of interpersonal gun violence — and recurrent gun injury — have some kind of social connection to people who also engage in risky behaviors.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“But that’s a really hidden population,” she said. “It’s really hard to quantify it, and we really are handicapped in this entire epidemic, because we’ve only recently been given real funding to study it.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Experts agree that it’s critical to continue to gain insights into those who are at risk of recurrent gun violence in order to build intervention programs that are most impactful — and to scale up appropriately.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“Firearm injuries are just like every other disease that we take care of in hospitals. They can be identified, tracked, treated and ultimately prevented,” Mueller said. “And just like chronic diseases like hypertension or diabetes, you need to be doing followup after you diagnose it.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Barksdale’s intervention program in Cleveland is one example of hope. Since its inception, the program has cared for 365 children who had been shot or had come to the hospital for some other trauma-related injury. Only 10 of them have been injured again.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>GET CNN HEALTH'S WEEKLY NEWSLETTER</p>\n<p>Sign up here to get The Results Are In with Dr. Sanjay Gupta every Tuesday from the CNN Health team.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>A key to the success of the program, Barksdale believes, is that workers from the hospital reach out within 48 hours of the children’s discharge.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“It’s critical that we call within 48 hours, because it’s in that time when the toughest of [kids] is listening to his mother or is finally seeing the light, and they’re open for us to intervene and present options that will keep them from dying or going to prison,” he said.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Within a month, someone from the hospital goes to the child’s home to get a sense of their environment and what they may need. They offer trauma-focused cognitive behavioral therapy, and they will address other issues that can leave children vulnerable, such as housing, clothing, food, tutoring and basic medical care.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>They also try to get a sense of the child’s identity.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“We want to understand if they have a sense of purpose, any goals or direction, and we want to help restore that if it is missing,” Barksdale said.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Hospital-based violence intervention programs restore a person’s sense of identity, help their self-esteem and give them a sense of agency, he said.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“We want to move them from hurt to heal to hope to whole,” Barksdale said.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--TEASE--</b></p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--SUPERS</b>--</p>\n<p>File </p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--VIDEO SHOWS</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--LEAD IN</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--VO SCRIPT</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--SOT</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--TAG</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--REPORTER PKG-AS FOLLOWS</b>--</p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>-----END-----CNN.SCRIPT-----</b></p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--KEYWORD TAGS--</b></p>\n<p></p>\n<p><b>--MUSIC INFO---</b></p>\n<p></p>

AP-APTN-1830 North America Prime News -Final Friday, 16 April 2010 North America Prime News World Airports 4 05:02 Pt No Singapore/CNN/CNBC/BBC WRAP Stranded passengers in airports due to volcanic ash, Paris take-off Europe Ash 04:01 See script REPLAY Eurocontrol comment, pilot describes incident, scientific plane takes off Iceland Floods 02:08 No Access Iceland REPLAY Swollen river, ice flash floods from melting glacier, evacuation centre, sots China Quake 4 03:38 AP Clients Only REPLAY Rescuers, villagers and monks try to find survivors under quake rubble Kyrgyzstan Bakiyev 2 03:47 Pt No Access Russia WRAP Officials take weapons from ousted leader's family, Bakiyev ++US Goldman Sachs 01:39 AP Clients Only NEW Goldman Sachs accused of civil fraud in subprime mortgage market ++Brazil US Dam 01:31 AP Clients Only NEW Judge overturns delay for bidding on Amazon dam, James Cameron sots B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 1830 GMT. APEX 04-16-10 1456EDT -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-1830: World Airports 4 Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:World Airports 4- WRAP Stranded passengers in airports due to volcanic ash, Paris take-off LENGTH: 05:02 FIRST RUN: 1730 RESTRICTIONS: Pt No Singapore/CNN/CNBC/BBC TYPE: Various/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/Mediacorp News STORY NUMBER: 643229 DATELINE: Various - 16 April 2010 LENGTH: 05:02 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY MEDIACORP NEWS - NO ACCESS SINGAPORE/CNN/CNBC/BBC SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 1330 EUROPE PRIME NEWS, 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Rome, Italy 1. Wide of Fiumicino Rome airport 2. Wide control tower 3. Wide interior of Fiumicino Rome airport 4. People lining up to check timetable 5. Screen giving passengers information 6. People waiting 7. SOUNDBITE: (English) Michael Parson, Tourist from Ireland: "Last night we were taken to a hotel in Ostia (town close by airport), which was very nice, and we were all happy to be in 'Bella Italia'. So, if you have to be stuck, Italy is the best place in the world. We love it." 8. Wide of people looking at screen (FIRST RUN 1330 EUROPE PRIME NEWS, 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Amsterdam, The Netherlands 9. Various of people queueing at Air Berlin check-in 10. Wide of people queuing to buy train tickets 11. Wide of couple sitting on floor 12. Low shot of airport official speaking with passengers 13. Passengers waiting by their luggage trolley 14. Various of people sleeping on stretchers in airport ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1730 NEWS UPDATE, 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Paris, France 15. British Airways Open Skies plane taking off from runway at Orly airport bound for Newark, New Jersey, US 16. Pan interior airport of screens showing cancelled flights and air traffic disrupted 17. Check-in desk 18. SOUNDBITE: (English) Frank Freiler, General Manager of Beauty Care Solutions: "So we're one of the lucky few. It sounds like they are actually going to get out of Paris today and get back to beautiful downtown Newark, New Jersey." (FIRST RUN 1330 EUROPE PRIME NEWS, 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Delhi, India 19. Various of tourists sitting outside at Delhi airport 20. Pan of display board showing flight status 21. Close-up of display board 22. Wide of passengers 23. Wide of passengers leaving with their luggage 24. SOUNDBITE: (English) David Overend, British Tourist "This volcano in Iceland spreading ash all over Britain and I think it's causing problems with the navigation systems and also a concern about particles going into engines. So, obviously, till the British authorities are absolutely satisfied that it's safe we can't fly which is the right thing to do but it's a bit frustrating." 25. Airline official putting up notice 26. Passenger talking to airline official (FIRST RUN 1330 EUROPE PRIME NEWS, 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Bangkok, Thailand 27. Wide pan of passengers in Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport departure hall 28. Close pan of departures board showing flight to London delayed 29. Wide of airport, people walking, pushing trolleys 30. Wide pan of passengers queuing at airline desk 31. SOUNDBITE: (English) Helene Uschakow, German tourist: "We have lost our jobs when we don't come to the work." 32. Various of people, whose flights are delayed, sitting in hotel garden 33. SOUNDBITE: (English) Brendan Wright, British tourist: "Beside myself. Because I've got no money left, don't know where to go, what to do, on my own, so, yeah, completely lost." 34. Wide of airport departures hall (FIRST RUN 1330 EUROPE PRIME NEWS, 16 APRIL 2010) MEDIACORP NEWS - NO ACCESS SINGAPORE, CNN, CNBC, BBC Singapore 35. Pan of stranded passengers at Changi Airport 36. Various of passengers in waiting area 37. Flight information boards 38. Close-up of cancelled flight information 39. Various of stranded passengers 40. SOUNDBITE: (English) No Name Given, Tourist: "It's an absolute nightmare. Nobody tells you anything. They said they were going to come down and tell us within the hour, and nobody came down and told us anything until the next day." 41. SOUNDBITE: (English) No Name Given, Tourist: "They're providing us with food and water and drinks and blankets. Obviously the floor's hard, but we've got through the night." 42. Departure information board 43. Various of passenger at Singapore Airline counter 44. SOUNDBITE, Nicholas Ionides,Vice-President, Public Affairs for Singapore Airlines "The situation now is that we don't know when those airports will be reopened, those airports that are closed. So we're in very close contacts with authorities in those areas, and we're trying to find out as soon as we can, when those airports will be opened. " 45. Pan across departure information board 46. Wide of stranded passengers at Changi Airport STORYLINE: Thousands of travellers worldwide who were hoping to fly into Europe airports were stranded on Friday as ash from a volcano in Iceland caused havoc with flight travel. Travel chaos engulfed major European cities and the UN warned of possible health risks from falling ash. Thousands of planes stayed on the tarmacs to avoid the hazardous cloud and aircraft were unable to fly in. Eurocontrol, the European air traffic agency, said the flight disruptions that upended travel in Europe and reverberated throughout the world on Thursday were even worse on Friday. Half a dozen European nations had closed their airspaces it said. The cloud was drifting east and about 60 percent of European flights were not operating. Delays will continue into Saturday, it said. Passengers were left stranded in Rome Fiumicino international airport on Friday when international flights to northern Europe were cancelled due to volcano cloud. Italian news agency reported the cancellation of at least 34 international flights to and from northern Europe during the first part of Friday. But later on Friday a British Airways plane chartered by Open Skies took off from Orly airport in the French capital Paris, bound for Newark in the United States - one of the few planes allowed to leave French airspace all day. There were about 45 passengers aboard, amongst them Frank Freiler, a general manager for Beauty Care Solutions in the United States. "So we're one of the lucky few," he said. "It sounds like they're actually going to get out of Paris today and get back to beautiful downtown Newark, New Jersey." No explanation was given as to why civil aviation restrictions were lifted for some but not all planes. Airspace reopened on Friday over the northern parts of Norway and Sweden but remained closed in the rest of the Nordic region because of the volcanic ash cloud from Iceland, officials said. Sweden reversed a gradual reopening of its airspace after weather reports indicated the plume would continue to spread over the region into the weekend. Only small airports in the northernmost parts of the country were operational. The country's civil aviation authority said it didn't know when the restrictions would be lifted. Norwegian airport operator Avinor reopened airspace over the northern half of Norway's west coast in the morning but most of the country remained a no-fly zone, including Oslo's Gardermoen Airport. In Denmark, aviation officials said the airspace would stay closed at least through 0600GMT Saturday. Finland, which closed its airspace early on Friday, said it would extend the measure to Sunday afternoon instead of Saturday, as earlier planned. Finnish airports operator Finavia Corp. said it expected the volcanic ash plume to remain over the country for several days. State-run Air India cancelled 11 flights on Friday from New Delhi and Mumbai to Frankfurt-Chicago, Frankfurt-Newark, London-Toronto, and directly to London and Paris, according to a statement. Jet Airways, a private airline said it had cancelled 15 flights from New Delhi and Mumbai to London and Brussels and to Toronto, Newark and New York via Brussels pending the reopening of European airports and air space. Thai Airways announced on its website that it cancelled ten flights between Bangkok and Europe on Friday. Some travellers stuck in Thailand said they may have to wait until 20 April for the earliest flight to Europe. Others said they'd been told it could be May before they get onto a flight. Singapore airport authorities faced a shortage of hotel rooms to accommodate stranded passengers. 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APTN APEX 04-16-10 1434EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Europe Ash Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:Europe Ash- REPLAY Eurocontrol comment, pilot describes incident, scientific plane takes off LENGTH: 04:01 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: See script TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/SKY/PA/EUMETSAT STORY NUMBER: 643183 DATELINE: Various - 16 April 2010 LENGTH: 04:01 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SKY - NO ACCESS UK/RET/CNNI/AL JAZEERA ENGLISH PA - NO UK/COMMERCIAL USE EUMETSAT - AP CLIENTS ONLY/ MUST COURTESY EUMETSAT SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 0830 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Berlin, Germany 1. Pan exterior of Airberlin planes on tarmac (FIRST RUN 0830 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) AuBC - NO ACCESS AUSTRALIA Sydney, Australia 2. Wide exterior of Quantas plane on tarmac 3. Mid of Qantas containers next to plane 4. Wide interior of people waiting at check-in desks (FIRST RUN 0830 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Paris, France 5. Wide of Air France planes on tarmac 6. Mid of Air France plane tails ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) AP Photos - No Access Canada/For Broadcast use only - Strictly No Access Online or Mobile Brussels, Belgium - 16 April 2010 7. STILL showing computer display at the European Air Navigation Agency, the coloured dots representing aircraft in flight in European airspace ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) PA - NO UK/COMMERCIAL USE London, UK - 29 January 1982 8. STILL British Airways 747 Captain Eric Moody receiving an award for landing safely in Jakarta, Indonesia, after volcanic dust caused total loss of power in all four engines ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) SKY NEWS - No Access UK/RTE/CNNi/Al Jazeera English 9. SOUNDBITE (English) Eric Moody, Former 747 pilot: (The 'He' that Captain Moody refers to is the cabin steward) "We'd gone from down around 15, 16 thousand feet and I knew that the oxygen masks had now dropped down in the cabin and I wanted to speak to him and I tried to talk to him on the telephone system on board but that wasn't working and that was part, we were confused because lots of things we had been trained, that would work in these situations weren't working and vice versa so all three of us on the flight deck admitted to being very confused during the whole thing however, the only way I could speak to him was to use the passenger address and I thought well I've always been an honest sort of a bloke, let's tell them the truth. And I just said 'Good evening again ladies and gentlemen, this is Captain Eric Moody here, we've got a small problem in that all four engines have failed we're doing our upmost to get them going, I trust you are not in too much distress.'" ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Brussels, Belgium - 16 April 2010 10. Wide of news conference 11. Close up of map showing european airspace 12. SOUNDBITE (English) Joe Sultana, Deputy Director of Central Floor Management Unit at Eurocontrol: "I think the decision made by each state and each air navigation service provider was taken in the interests of safety of air travel. There is guidance from the International Civil Aviation Authority. I cannot say whether it is an overreaction - undereaction, I think everyone is working in the interests of safety." ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) EUMETSAT - AP CLIENTS ONLY/ MUST COURTESY EUMETSAT Satellite image of Europe - 16 April 2010 13. Satellite image of volcanic ash cloud (peach coloured) stretching from northern Finland to the United Kingdom ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 16 APRIL 2010) SKY - NO ACCESS UK/RET/CNNI/AL JAZEERA ENGLISH Cranfield Airfield, UK - 16 April 2010 14. Scientific plane taxiing on tarmac 15. SOUNDBITE (English) Guy Gratton, Scientist: ++SOUNDBITE STARTS UNDER PREVIOUS SHOT++ "We're going to be flying to the North and Northeast of London, operating over East Anglia and the North Sea, between about 5 thousand and 15 thousand feet. The intention is to identify where the edges of the ashcloud are and I certainly expect to be finding it this time. The Met office are currently seeing a thin layer of ash over Cardington, which is just a few miles from here between 6 and 8 thousand feet and the satellites are showing the bulk of the ash running down the east side of the North Sea and over Denmark so we're going to be looking at the edges of that, refining the model the Met office have got and hopefully putting them in a good position to make the best possible advice with regard to whether and when it's safe to reopen the London airports." 16. Research plane taking off from Cranfield Airfield to collect data on volcanic ash over UK STORYLINE: Eurocontrol, the European air navigation safety agency, said on Friday that travellers should brace themselves for more disruptions because of ash from Iceland's volcano. Deputy Director of Central Floor Management Unit at Eurocontrol, Joe Sultana, said that they had no option but to err on the side of caution. "There is guidance from the International Civil Aviation Authority. I cannot say whether it is an overreaction - undereaction, I think everyone is acting in the interests of safety," he told reporters in Brussels. Eurocontrol predicted only 12,000 flights in all of Europe on Friday, down from 28,000 on a normal day. On Thursday, when the air traffic emergency gradually spread across Europe, there were 20,334 flights. Twelve countries have been affected by the no-fly ban on Friday: Britain (excluding Scotland), Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Estonia, northern France (including all Paris airports), northern parts of Germany, parts of Poland (including Warsaw airport) and the Czech Republic. On Friday, trans-Atlantic flights, normally 300, were severely curtailed. Only about 120 flights arrived from across the Atlantic, said Eurocontrol. Former British Airways pilot, Eric Moody, told British broadcaster Sky just how dangerous volcanic ash can be to a plane after one of his flights almost crashed. "And I just said 'Good evening again ladies and gentlemen, this is Captain Eric Moody here, we've got a small problem in that all four engines have failed we're doing our upmost to get them going, I trust you are not in too much distress,'" he explained how he was forced to tell his passengers of the danger they were in. Captain Moody was later given the Hugh Gordon Burge award for managing to land the plane safely in Jakarta. Meanwhile, in a bid to learn more about exactly where the perimeter of the ash is and how quickly it is spreading around the United Kingdom a group of scientists took a special research plane up into the sky on Friday to take samples. "The satellites are showing the bulk of the ash running down the east side of the North Sea and over Denmark so we're going to be looking at the edges of that, refining the model the Met office have got and hopefully putting them in a good position to make the best possible advice with regard to whether and when it's safe to reopen the London airports," Scientist Guy Gratton told British broadcaster Sky. The information brought back from the mission, due to land back at Cranfield Airport in Bedfordshire at 9pm (2000 GMT), will be given to the Met Office to help with its forecasting. 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APTN APEX 04-16-10 1434EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Iceland Floods Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:Iceland Floods- REPLAY Swollen river, ice flash floods from melting glacier, evacuation centre, sots LENGTH: 02:08 FIRST RUN: 1330 RESTRICTIONS: No Access Iceland TYPE: Icelandic/Nat SOURCE: RUV STORY NUMBER: 643208 DATELINE: Eyjafjallajokull - 16 April 2010 LENGTH: 02:08 RUV - NO ACCESS ICELAND SHOTLIST: 1. Pan of flash flood that came from the Eyjafjallajokull (ay-yah-FYAH'-plah-yer-kuh-duhl) volcano overnight, bursting the banks of a nearby river 2. Various of fast flowing water with ash in it 3. Various of water gushing over broken levee 4. Pan right of fast flowing water with pumice lumps floating on the surface 5. Wide pan of high river 6. Various of blocks of ice surrounded by bits of pumice/ash 7. Tilt-up from river to sky 8. Officials monitoring the river 9. Close-up of officials faces 10. Various of farmer Elin S. Ragnarsdottir talking on her mobile at the Hvolsvollur emergency centre 11. SOUNDBITE (Icelandic) Elin S. Ragnarsdottir, Farmer: "Sure. We completely depend on the Civil Protection people. They are doing a wonderful job. We feel very welcome here." 12. Emergency centre workers carrying a table into centre STORYLINE Ice chunks the size of houses tumbled down from a volcano beneath Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull glacier on Thursday, as hot gases melted the ice. The volcano began erupting on Wednesday for the second time in less than a month. Torrents of water filled with ash and pumice roared down the steep slopes of the volcano. About 40 people nearby were evacuated because of flash floods, which washed away chunks of the country's main ring road. Farmer Elin S. Ragnarsdottir was one of the locals being looked after at the Hvolsvollur emergency centre. "We completely depend on the Civil Protection people. They are doing a wonderful job. We feel very welcome here," she said. More floods from melting waters are expected as long as the volcano keeps erupting, a member of the Civil Protection Department said. Iceland, a nation of 320-thousand people, sits on a large volcanic hot spot in the Atlantic's mid-oceanic ridge, and has a history of devastating eruptions. One of the worst was the 1783 eruption of the Laki volcano, which spewed a toxic cloud over Europe. 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APTN APEX 04-16-10 1434EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: China Quake 4 Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:China Quake 4- REPLAY Rescuers, villagers and monks try to find survivors under quake rubble LENGTH: 03:38 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Mandarin/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 643201 DATELINE: Jiegu, Yushu County - 16 April 2010 LENGTH: 03:38 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST 1. Top shot of collapsed school complex with excavator digging rubble 2. Rescuers and monks gathered in front of damaged school complex 3. Body of student being placed in a blanket to be taken away by monks 4. Wide of monks and rescuers 5. Various of monks taking body away 6. Close-up of body being wrapped in quilts 7. Various of research team, students and parents gathered watching monks wrap student's body 8. Wide of monk wrapping body 9. Woman crying 10. Wide of Chen Guangming, Vice Principle of Yushu Vocational Boarding School, talking to two journalists 11. SOUNDBITE (Mandarin) Chen Guangming, Vice Principle of Yushu county's Vocational Boarding School: "Some teachers and I were digging and pulling out students with our bare hands. We didn't have any kind of tools. We couldn't lift the bigger rocks so we found some ropes and pulled them. Mostly we used our hands, you see mine are cut. This way we were able to pull out five, three of them are still alive." 12. Former student looking at photos he found in the rubble 13. Photo of a student who was found dead 14. Tilt-up from school books on floor of hallway to rescuers working at end of hallway 15. Reverse shot of search team 16. Pan of devastated neighbourhood on hill 17. Various of people searching through rubble to find possessions 18. Wide of crowd gathered to receive relief supplies from cargo truck 19. Police holding back crowd as relief supplies are distributed 20. People watching from behind police line 21. Various of tents wrapped in plastic bags being handed down from truck to waiting residents 22. Various of troops and rescue team searching through rubble for survivors 23. Various of monks sitting on ground chanting ritual prayers for those died beneath Jiegu Temple 24. Various of pile of wrapped bodies of earthquake victims in cloths on a stage 25. Various of oil lamps 26. SOUNDBITE (Mandarin) GeGa, Tibetan Buddhist Monk: "For us the Tibetan people, this is critically important. Every Tibetan here believes in Buddhism. For them, religious rituals, like chanting of scriptures and a belief in salvation for the dead, are very important. If there is no ritual, like praying and helping the dead into the afterlife, Tibetans would feel very guilty." 27. Wide of monks performing ritual in front of bodies 28. Close-up of monk chanting prayer into microphone 29. Various of monks chanting 30. Close-up of Tibetan prayer wheel spinning in monk's hand STORYLINE Rescuers probed the rubble for sounds or movement on Friday in a rush to find anyone still buried alive more than 48 hours after an earthquake hit western China, killing at least 791 people. Many survivors shivered through a second night outdoors as they waited for tents to arrive in the remote, mountainous Tibetan area. People with broken arms or legs cried in pain as medical teams could offer little more than injections for relief. Stunned survivors wandered the dusty streets of Jiegu, where relief workers estimated 70 percent to 90 percent of the low-slung town of wood-and-mud housing had collapsed. The official Xinhua News Agency reported on Friday afternoon the death toll had risen to 791, with 294 missing. The report said 11,477 people were injured, 1,174 severely. The strongest of the quakes on Wednesday morning measured magnitude 6.9 by the US Geological Survey and 7.1 by China's earthquake administration. China Central Television (CCTV) reported that about 40-thousand tents would be in place by Saturday, enough to accommodate all survivors. Also on the way was more equipment to help probe for signs of life under the debris, it said. The remote mountain region's high altitude, about 13-thousand feet (four-thousand metres), left some rescuers and even their sniffer dogs breathless or feeling ill. At one collapsed school, civilians, including Tibetan monks in crimson robes, joined rescue workers on top of a pile of debris to pull out the bodies of students. "Some teachers and I were digging and pulling out students with our bare hands. We didn't have any kind of tools ... Mostly we used our hands, you see mine are cut. This way we were able to pull out five, three of them were still alive," said Chen Guangming, Vice Principle of Yushu County's Vocational Boarding School, where the bodies of 26 students were found. Xinhua quoted a local education official as saying 66 children and 10 teachers had died, mostly in three schools, but more remained missing. A spokesman for the Qinghai-based educational NGO Gesanghua, said the first and third grade classrooms at the Yushu No. 3 Wanquan Elementary School crumbled because they were built with mud, instead of brick and cement. An employee at the Children's Home of Hope for orphans, said 30 of the home's children were missing, including many who attended classes at the No. 3 Wanquan school. The collapsed schools were an eerie echo of the massive Sichuan quake in 2008, in which thousands of students died when their poorly built schools collapsed. But unlike Sichuan - where schools toppled as other buildings stood - nearly everything fell over in Yushu. Meanwhile, Tibetan monks prayed over hundreds of bodies on Friday at a makeshift morgue next to their monastery. One of the monks from the Jiegu Monastery, estimated that about thousand bodies had been brought to a hillside clearing in the shadow of the monastery. He said a precise count was difficult because bodies continued to trickle in and some had already been taken away by family members. Dozens of monks began singing chants, or sutras, late in the afternoon and planned to begin cremating the unclaimed bodies on Saturday. According to one of the monks it was impossible to perform traditional sky burials for all. Tibetan sky burials involve chopping a body into pieces and leaving it on a platform to be devoured by vultures. 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APTN APEX 04-16-10 1434EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Kyrgyzstan Bakiyev 2 Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:Kyrgyzstan Bakiyev 2- WRAP Officials take weapons from ousted leader's family, Bakiyev LENGTH: 03:47 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: Pt No Access Russia TYPE: Russian/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/RU-RTR/KTR STORY NUMBER: 643185 DATELINE: Various, 15/16 April 2010 LENGTH: 03:47 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY RU-RTR - NO ACCESS RUSSIA KYRGYZ TV - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, APRIL 16 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Teyit, Jalal-Abad region, southern Kyrgyzstan, April 16 2010 1. Wide shot of ousted president Kurmanbek Bakiyev's supporters around yurt (tent) where Bakiyev's family is holding talks with representatives of the new government 2. Pan of talks inside yurt 3. Pan from Kanybek Turdumambetov, prosecutor of the Jalal-Abad region, to General Artur Medotbekov, deputy head of the state security service GSNB 4. Mid shot of weapons handed in by the Bakiyev family - four Saiga automatic rifles and one Kalashnikov automatic rifle 5. Mid shot government officer picking up one rifle 6. Close up of inspector emptying magazine 7. Close up of rounds of ammunition on the floor 8. Mid shot of weapons (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, APRIL 16 2010) KYRGYZ TV - AP CLIENTS ONLY Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, April 16 2010 9. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) Roza Otunbayeva, interim president: "Bakiyev's active movements, his public speeches in Jalal-Abad and Osh, where he was surrounded by gunmen, have put the country on the edge of a civil war. We could not let a new tragedy happen to our people." ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1230 NEWS UPDATE, APRIL 16 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE - Osh, southern Kyrgyzstan, April 15 2010 10. Ousted president Kurmanbek Bakiyev getting out of car, people cheering 11. Bakiyev addressing crowd 12. Wide of crowd running as gunfire starts, AUDIO: Gunfire (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, APRIL 16 2010) KYRGYZ TV - AP CLIENTS ONLY Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, April 16 2010 13. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) Roza Otunbayeva, interim president: "Bakiyev won't evade justice, he will not be able to hide anywhere in the world. None of the relatives or allies of Bakiyev that were with him until the end, have been allowed out of the country." ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1230 NEWS UPDATE, APRIL 16 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE - Osh, Kyrgyzstan, April 15 2010 14. Bakiyev's convoy leaving Osh 15. Pan from crowd to armed man firing in sky, AUDIO: Gunfire (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, APRIL 16 2010) RTR - NO ACCESS RUSSIA Brasilia, Brazil, April 15 2010 16. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) Dmitry Medvedev, Russian president: "We had to get various parties involved. At the summit in Washington I held talks with both the president of Kazakhstan who helped solve this issue, and with the US president, taking into account the various divergent interests in the country and in the region as a whole. Finally reason triumphed, and I would like to say again that I really hope that we have managed to avoid a deterioration in the development of events there." (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, APRIL 16 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Teyit, Jalal-Abad region, southern Kyrgyzstan, April 16 2010 17. Wide shot of Bakiyev's supporters outside yurt where Bakiyev's family is holding talks with representatives of the new government 18. Mid shot Kanybek Bakiyev, Kurmanbek Bakiyev's brother, talking to supporters 19. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) Kanybek Bakiyev, Kurmanbek Bakiyev's brother: "On the one hand, we are less worried about his fate and his life now that he is holding talks with the opposition (in Kazakhstan). Let us hope a compromise solution is found. But the people are still excited and concerned over the president's fate." 20. Wide shot of crowd of Bakiyev supporters arguing with government officials as they try to leave Bakiyev's estate 21. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) General Artur Medotbekov, deputy head of the state security service: "The Prosecutor-General's Office has launched a criminal case and wants to interrogate Zhanybek Bakiyev and former defence minister Bakyt Kalyev. Bakyt Kalyev has been detained, while Zhanybek Bakiyev should come here now and testify." 22. Mid shot of Medotbekov leaving the compound 23. Mid shot of officials transferring confiscated weapons which are placed inside a vehicle STORYLINE: Relatives of Kyrgyzstan's ousted president submitted weapons to officials on Friday in their home village in the south of the country, a day after the president himself fled the country. While the moves appeared to reduce the likelihood of resistance by Kurmanbek Bakiyev backers, Kyrgyzstan's interim authorities were still searching for one of his brothers after issuing a warrant for his arrest, and it was unclear if Zhanybek Bakiyev would submit peacefully. Zhanybek Bakiyev, former head of the presidential guard service, is accused of ordering that shots be fired into a crowd of protesters on April 7 in the capital, Bishkek. The shooting enraged protesters, who stormed government buildings, driving the president to take refuge in the family compound in the southern village of Teyit. At least 83 people died in the Bishkek violence. For more than a week, the president tried to marshal support to resist the opposition figures who claimed power in Bishkek after his departure. But after fleeing a support rally on Thursday when gunfire broke out, he flew to neighbouring Kazakhstan under a plan negotiated by the US, Russian and Kazakh presidents, the United Nations, the European Union and the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe. It was unclear how long he would remain in Kazakhstan. Interim leader Roza Otunbayeva said on Friday the country would push for an international investigation of the violence and that "Bakiyev won't evade justice." Police and the regional prosecutor came to the Bakiyev family compound on Friday morning, and Bakiyev's brother Akhmat, who is not sought for arrest, turned over several hunting and assault rifles. Otunbayeva on Thursday showed The Associated Press what she said was a formal letter of resignation handwritten by the president and received by fax. "Bakiyev's active movements, his public speeches in Jalal-Abad and Osh, where he was surrounded by gunmen, have put the country on the edge of a civil war,"Otunbayeva said. General Artur Medotbekov, Deputy Head of the state security service said former defence minister Bakyt Kalyev had been detained. On Thursday a member of the interim government said Kalyev was arrested in southern Kyrgyzstan while attempting to escape. The government member said Kalyev was also accused of ordering a crowd of protesters be fired upon in Bishkek on April 7. Bakiyev's departure raised hopes for a quick settlement of the crisis in the former Soviet republic, which hosts a US air base at the capital's airport. The Manas base has resumed full operations, the US Embassy said on Thursday. "Refuelling operations continue as usual, and the transit of troops has resumed," the embassy said in a statement. The troop transports to and from Afghanistan had been suspended since last week, other than a brief resumption Friday to fly a few hundred troops from the base back to the US. Russia, which also has an air base in Kyrgyzstan, has supported the US-led operations in Afghanistan but has shown growing impatience with the US military presence in the Central Asian region, which it considers its backyard. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said in a statement issued by the Kremlin on Thursday that the Bakiyev regime collapsed because of corruption, its reliance on clan ties and inability to solve social problems. "I really hope that we have managed to avoid a deterioration in the development of events there," he said. He said Russia would provide humanitarian aid to Kyrgyzstan. 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APTN APEX 04-16-10 1434EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++US Goldman Sachs Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:++US Goldman Sachs- NEW Goldman Sachs accused of civil fraud in subprime mortgage market LENGTH: 01:39 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 643228 DATELINE: New York - 16 April 2010/FILE LENGTH: 01:39 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: FILE: New York, New York - exact date unknown 1. Various of Goldman Sachs building (85 Broad Street) Washington DC - April 16 2010 2. Various of US Securities and Exchanges Commission (SEC) New York - 16 April 2010 3. SOUNDBITE: (English) Art Hogan, Chief Market Analyst at Jeffries and Co: "The SEC (Securities and Exchanges Commission) is saying Goldman was deceptive and misleading in the way they marketed a particular product." FILE: New York, New York - exact date unknown 4. Flag flying outside Goldman Sachs building (85 Broad Street) New York - 16 April 2010 5. SOUNDBITE: (English) Art Hogan, Chief Market Analyst at Jeffries and Co: "In the near term obviously, one of the offshoots that we are seeing today is that the stock prices in general are going down, the financials are the worst performing group in the S&P 500, down about five percent, the S&P is down about two percent. So this has had a market reaction and now we'll see if that is going to be an over-reaction or if there's something that plays out over the next several days." FILE: New York, New York - exact date unknown 6. Tilt-down Goldman Sachs building (85 Broad Street) New York - 16 April 2010 7. SOUNDBITE: (English) Art Hogan, Chief Market Analyst at Jeffries and Co: "Goldman Sachs has been long one of the top investment banks. If you look back over the last couple of years of this financial crisis we went through, they certainly were able to come out of it in a better fashion than Bear Sterns or Lehman did. They have got a reputation for having very, very aggressive trading and very, very smart people working there, that's long been the case. They have had decades of the reputation of being one of the top investment banks and they certainly seem to have come out of the financial crisis in better shape than some of their competitors did." New York - 16 April 2010 8. Various exteriors of Goldman Sachs building (85 Broad Street) STORYLINE: The US government has accused investment bank Goldman Sachs & Co. of defrauding investors by failing to disclose conflicts of interest in mortgage investments it sold as the housing market was collapsing. The Securities and Exchange Commission said in a civil complaint on Friday that Goldman failed to disclose that one of its clients helped create - and then bet against - subprime mortgage securities that Goldman sold to other investors. The SEC said the fraud, a blow to the reputation of Wall Street's most powerful firm, was orchestrated in 2007 by a Goldman vice president then in his late 20's. The employee, Fabrice Tourre, has since been promoted to executive director of Goldman Sachs International in London. Tourre, the SEC said, boasted to a friend that he was able to put such deals together as the mortgage market was unravelling in early 2007. In an email to the friend, he described himself as "the fabulous Fab standing in the middle of all these complex, highly leveraged, exotic trades he created without necessarily understanding all of the implications of those monstrosities!!!" Two European banks that bought the securities lost nearly one (b) billion dollars, the SEC said. The agency is seeking to recoup profits reaped on the deal. Goldman Sachs denied the allegations. In a statement, it called the SEC's charges "completely unfounded in law and fact" and said it will contest them. "The SEC (Securities and Exchanges Commission) is saying Goldman was deceptive and misleading in the way they marketed a particular product," Art Hogan, Chief Market Analyst at Jeffries and Co, said. Goldman, founded more than 140 years ago, built a reputation as a trusted adviser to its investment banking clients. In recent years, it shifted toward taking more risks with its clients' money and its own. Goldman's trading allowed the firm to weather the financial crisis better than most other big banks. It earned a record 4.79 (b) billion US dollars in the last quarter of 2009. The SEC's enforcement chief said the agency is investigating a wide range of practices related to the crisis. The prospect of possible legal jeopardy for other major financial players roiled the stock market. Goldman Sachs shares fell more than 12 percent. The Dow Jones industrial average sank more than 100 points in midday trading. The charges come as lawmakers seek to crack down on Wall Street practices that helped cause the financial crisis. Among proposals Congress is weighing are tougher rules for complex investments like those involved in the alleged Goldman fraud. The Goldman client implicated in the fraud is one of the world's largest hedge funds, Paulson & Co. The SEC said it paid Goldman roughly 15 (m) million dollars in 2007 to put together an investment offering that was tied to mortgage-related securities the hedge fund viewed as likely to decline in value. Separately, Paulson took out a form of insurance that allowed it to make a huge profit when those securities became nearly worthless. ABN Amro, a major Dutch bank, was the biggest loser in the securities, having paid Goldman 841 (m) million US dollars, according to the SEC. And IKB, a German commercial bank, lost nearly all its 150 (m) million US dollars investment, the agency said. Most of the money they lost went to Paulson in a series of transactions between Goldman and the hedge fund, the SEC said. The civil lawsuit filed by the SEC in federal court in Manhattan was the government's most significant legal action related to the mortgage meltdown that ignited the financial crisis and helped plunge the country into recession. The SEC is seeking unspecified fines and restitution from Goldman Sachs and Tourre. Paulson & Co. is run by John Paulson, who reaped (b) billions by betting against subprime mortgage securities. He is not related to former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. In an annual letter to shareholders, Goldman said it began reducing its exposure to the US mortgage market in late 2006. It said it did so by selling mortgage investments or buying credit default swaps. The swaps are a form of insurance that pays out if the value of the underlying asset declines. Those hedges, also known as short positions, served Goldman well. As the housing market began to decline and losses piled up for other big banks, Goldman suffered less damage. That led to criticism that the bank benefited at the expense of clients who bought mortgage-backed securities that became toxic. Goldman denied that. 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APTN APEX 04-16-10 1550EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++Brazil US Dam Friday, 16 April 2010 STORY:++Brazil US Dam- NEW Judge overturns delay for bidding on Amazon dam, James Cameron sots LENGTH: 01:31 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/Amazon Watch STORY NUMBER: 643213 DATELINE: Washington DC/Tocantins - 15 April 2010/Recent LENGTH: 01:31 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY AMAZON WATCH VNR - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: AMAZON WATCH VNR - AP CLIENTS ONLY Village along Xingu River - 13 April 2010 1. Various of village in Brazilian Amazon visited by director James Cameron AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Washington DC - 15 April, 2010 2. SOUNDBITE: (English) James Cameron, Film Director "What is being requested here is that the people who are directly affected by the project have a voice in the approval process for this type of project. And the reason the environmental community and the indigenous rights community is so focused on this project is because it will create precedent for the 19 or 20 other major hydro-electric projects that are planned in Brazil." AMAZON WATCH VNR - AP CLIENTS ONLY Village along Xingu River - 13 April 3. Various of village in Brazilian Amazon visited by director James Cameron AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Washington DC - 15 April, 2010 4. SOUNDBITE: (English) James Cameron, Film Director "It does involve the international community because these big hydroelectric projects in the Amazon are destroying parts of the forest which are the biggest natural mechanisms for carbon sequestration. One of them on the planet as the forest dies it releases that carbon back into the environment, we all suffer. The point that I make to them, and I haven't got to speak directly to President Lula but the point that I've made in press conferences down there is that every nation shares a responsibility for carbon pollution. And because North America has basically led the pack in carbon pollution for a very long time it has a greater debt to pay on a global level." 5. Pan from Cameron to audience STORYLINE: A judge on Friday overturned a decision that could have delayed construction of a huge Amazon dam opposed by environmentalists, Indians and the director of "Avatar." The decision was made in the Brazilian capital to suspend contract bidding scheduled for next week and also overturned the suspension of the environmental licence for the 11-thousand-megawatt Belo Monte dam, according to a statement from Brazil's solicitor general. A spokeswoman for federal prosecutors acting on behalf of dam opponents said the decision was being analysed and that an appeal would be filed, but it was not clear when. She spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with policy. Brazil's electricity regulator resumed plans to hold an auction Tuesday to pick a consortium to build and operate the 11 (b) billion US dollars dam and sell electricity to the nation, said a spokeswoman for the agency, known as Aneel. She also spoke on condition of anonymity because of department rules. "Avatar" director James Cameron was in Brazil this week to protest the dam, and the decision to delay bidding came on Wednesday. Environmentalists and indigenous groups say Belo Monte would devastate wildlife and the livelihoods of 40-thousand people who live in the area to be flooded. They also argue that the energy generated by the dam will largely go to big mining operations, instead of benefiting most Brazilians. Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has repeatedly insisted that the dam is essential for Brazil's future energy needs. Latin America's largest nation has a fragile energy grid that was hit last year by a blackout that darkened much of the nation. Belo Monte would supply 6 percent of the country's electricity needs by 2014. This is the same year Brazil will host World Cup Football and just two years before Rio de Janeiro holds the 2016 Olympics. Cameron this week called the proposed dam a "pivotal battleground" because it will set the stage for development of more dams. He took part in a protest against the dam in Brasilia and visited with Indians in the small Amazon city of Altamira near the proposed dam site. Actress Sigourney Weaver, who starred in "Avatar", accompanied Cameron. Their visit was reminiscent of a 1989 trip by rock star Sting, who protested the same dam alongside Indians in an event that helped persuade international lenders not to finance it. Brazil was shuddering under a heavy foreign debt at the time. But economically booming Brazil no longer needs money from abroad to build the dam. Silva has said foreign visitors from rich nations should not lecture Brazil about the dam and Amazon deforestation because their countries mowed down their own forests centuries ago. Brazilian officials also contest estimates made by environmentalists of the damage the dam would cause, saying the dam was approved after years of planning to protect wildlife and people living nearby. The solicitor general's office said in its statement that the dam's construction will create 18-thousand jobs in one of Brazil's poorest regions, the state of Para. 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AP-APTN-2330 Americas L Prime News-Final Sunday, 11 April 2010 Americas L Prime News ++Haiti Relocation 02:30 AP Clients Only NEW Quake victims relocated amid fears they could be affected by looming rainy season Haiti Celebrities 02:07 AP Clients Only REPLAY Singer Shakira and actor Sean Penn meet with earthquake victims Mexico US 01:30 No Access Mexico/Telemundo REPLAY Attacker throws explosive device over wall around US consulate US Arrivals 02:10 AP Clients Only REPLAY India, Pakistan PMs arrive ahead of nuclear conference Poland Body 5 01:54 Part No Access Poland REPLAY Service as body of president repatriated from Russia ++Hungary Elections 3 02:30 AP Clients Only NEW Vote counting in parliamentary elections; results; Orban Mideast Holocaust 02:32 No Access Israel REPLAY Yad Vashem ceremony on eve of Holocaust Memorial Day Germany Buchenwald 2 03:59 See Script WRAP Survivors, veterans mark Buchenwald liberation B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 2330 GMT. APEX 04-11-10 1956EDT -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-2330: ++Haiti Relocation Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:++Haiti Relocation- NEW Quake victims relocated amid fears they could be affected by looming rainy season LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Eng/Creole/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 642676 DATELINE: Various - 10/11 April 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY ++AUDIO QUALITY AS INCOMING++ SHOTLIST Corail-Cesselesse - 11 April 2010 1. Wide of graders levelling land for tent camp 2. Wide of tents at new camp Corail-Cesselesse - 10 April 2010 3. Wide of Haitian President Rene Preval walking with officials at new camp 4. Various of Preval entering tent 5. Preval inside tent 6. SOUNDBITE (English) Rene Preval, Haitian President: "Now, with the rainy season, we have to move them, you know, to a more secure location, out of the water and that's what we are doing here." Corail-Cesselesse - 11 April 2010 7. Workers setting up tent 8. Worker tying tent flap, zoom in on worker's hands 9. Trucks carrying gravel 10. Close of water spigots 11. Wide of water bladder 12. Wide of portable toilets 13. Children eating inside tent 14. Parents inside tent opening crackers 15. SOUNDBITE (Creole) Aniette Floret, camp resident: "I am not satisfied because I thought it was going to be finished." 16. Woman and children inside tent 17. Wide of tents at new camp Port-au-Prince - 11 April 2010 18. Wide of tents at Petionville Golf Club camp 19. Top shot of tents at golf club 20. Wide of people waiting next to bus to be relocated 21. People waiting to get on bus 22. Buses leaving, taking people to new camp 23. Close of bus window with people inside 24. Bus leaving STORYLINE The relocation of Haitian earthquake victims from a vulnerable tent city at the Petionville Golf Club continued on Sunday, with more people sent to a new camp on the outskirts of the capital Port-au-Prince. The first 14 families were moved on Saturday, with another 250 families scheduled to be relocated on Sunday; the first of a total of 6-thousand people to be shifted to the new camp over the next two weeks, according to aid groups. But the pace was slower than expected on Sunday, with less than 100 people sent to the new settlement at Corail-Cesselesse, an extremely dry and dusty area about nine miles (15 kilometres) north of the capital, with thousands more waiting their turn. United Nations and US officials recommended that 7,500 people be relocated within ten days because with Haiti's looming rainy season they are at high risk of flooding or mudslides in the makeshift camps at the Petionville golf course. It was unclear where the remaining 1,500 people in high-risk areas would be moved to, because there is no room for them at the Corail-Cesselesse camp, which covers nearly 11 square miles. On Sunday, adults and children living at the Petionville golf course walked up a steep hill with their belongings and climbed into buses that rumbled off to yet another temporary home. They wore yellow wristbands that indicated their departure time and new neighbourhood of Corail-Cesselesse. But not all were happy when they arrived at the new camp, some saying it was too far and unfinished. "I am not satisfied because I thought it was going to be finished," said one camp resident, as her six children munched on crackers from a food care package inside their new tent. Haiti's rainy season officially begins on May 1, but scattered showers already have made people skittish, and for good reason. The Caribbean is bracing for what some forecasts predict will be a more-active-than-usual hurricane season, and Haiti is extremely vulnerable to floods and mudslides because of widespread deforestation and erosion. Officials say the rush to beat the rainy season led to the hastily built camp in Corail-Cesselesse that offers minimal living conditions. Oxfam barely had time to install latrines before the first families arrived on Saturday. Oxfam, World Vision and CARE criticised the Haitian government for its lack of planning in a joint statement. Organisations need time to lay gravel on the ground to prevent dust storms and flooding and to place latrines in strategic locations to ensure the safety of people, especially women and children at night, officials said. Haitian President Rene Preval visited the new site on Saturday and vowed to continue to move people away from danger zones. "Now, with the rainy season, we have to move them, you know, to a more secure location, out of the water and that's what we are doing here," Preval told reporters while looking over the facilities at the new camp. But the government has been slow in finding suitable land to build temporary resettlement camps, leaving tens of thousands of evacuees living in makeshift tent camps amidst the rubble of Port-au-Prince. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 04-11-10 2037EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: Haiti Celebrities Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:Haiti Celebrities- REPLAY Singer Shakira and actor Sean Penn meet with earthquake victims LENGTH: 02:07 FIRST RUN: 2030 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Spanish/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 642674 DATELINE: Port-au-Prince - 11 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:07 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST 1. Wide of US actor Sean Penn greeting Colombian singer Shakira at Petionville Golf Club, zoom in on Penn, pull out as they start walking away 2. Shakira and Penn walking down road inside tent camp at golf club, followed by group of people and media 3. Penn and Shakira standing inside tent camp surrounded by media, UPSOUND (English) Sean Penn, US actor: "All right, so either you guys will respect, that, if you're not here that this trip happens, if you are here it won't. You've got your pictures. And we will let people know how obstructionist you have been in the process upstairs. So we're asking that you finish your pictures here, and then you'll let us proceed on." 4. Zoom in on Shakira talking to Haitian children, overlaid by Penn speaking (in previous shot) 5. SOUNDBITE: (Spanish) Shakira, Colombian singer: "Well, we continue forward, which is why we came to look at some properties, to meet with our partners to see what we need to build, a school "Barefoot" (Shakira's foundation), with nutrition, sanitation. So I am very enthusiastic about that project, so we are seeing the reality from up close, the situation in Haiti. There is a lot of need." 6. Mid of Penn and Shakira 7. Shakira talking to children, zoom in on children 8. Shakira and entourage walking away STORYLINE Colombian singer Shakira arrived on Sunday at the Haitian capital Port-au-Prince where she toured one of the largest makeshift camps and began searching for a location to build a school. The pop star waved to onlookers and greeted infants living on a Haitian golf course that has been transformed into a sprawling makeshift camp for 50-thousand quake survivors. Shakira was greeted by US actor Sean Penn, whose foundation "Jenkins-Penn Haitian Relief Organisation (J/P HRO) has been leading the different NGOs in providing food and aid to the tent camp. The two stars spoke about challenges confronting Haiti since the January 12 disaster. Shakira said she was searching for suitable land to build a school for needy children, where students can get not only an education but also benefit from nutritional and health programmes. Her Barefoot foundation provides nutrition to more than six-thousand children in Colombia, and she is member of the ALAS foundation that advocates for children across Latin America. Shakira who in 2006 recorded the hit "Hips don't lie" with American-Haitian singer Wyclef Jean took part in the "Hope for Haiti" telethon which obtained (m) millions of US dollars to help rebuild Port-au-Prince. Since the January 12th earthquake struck Haiti, various celebrities like Angelina Jolie or Harrison Ford have visited the country offering their help. 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APTN APEX 04-11-10 1927EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: Mexico US Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:Mexico US- REPLAY Attacker throws explosive device over wall around US consulate LENGTH: 01:30 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: No Access Mexico/Telemundo TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: TV Azteca STORY NUMBER: 642666 DATELINE: Nuevo Laredo - 10 April 2010 LENGTH: 01:30 TV AZTECA - NO ACCESS MEXICO/TELEMUNDO SHOTLIST: Nuevo Laredo - 10 April 2010 1. Various of US consulate 2. Police officers outside consulate, zoom out 3. Car passing by the consulate 4. Police vehicle parked outside the consulate building 5. Entrance to the consulate 6. Minor damage in one of the windows, pull out 7. Minor damage in a wall 8. Various of police and military outside consulate 9. Car passing in front of consulate entrance 10. Minor damage in a window, zoom out 11. Wide of street STORYLINE: An attacker threw an explosive device over the wall of the US consulate in the Mexican city of Nuevo Laredo, according to the US Embassy. Friday's attack broke windows and startled employees inside, but caused no injuries. An Embassy spokesman said an investigation into the incident was underway. The US consulate in Nuevo Laredo and the consular agency in the border town of Piedras Negras will be closed on Monday pending a review of security. Mexican federal prosecutors said they were reviewing evidence from the scene, including video feeds from security cameras at the consulate. Nuevo Laredo, across the Rio Grande River from Laredo, Texas, and other cities have seen increased violence as powerful Mexican drug cartels battle over control of lucrative trafficking along the border. Until recent weeks, US State Department employees in the area had not been victimised. But last month, gunmen chased down and killed an American woman who worked at the US consulate in Ciudad Juarez, and her husband. Another man married to a Mexican consulate worker was also killed. In 2008, two men fired shots and threw a grenade, which didn't explode, at the US consulate in Monterrey. Nobody was hurt in that attack, but the consulate's gate was damaged. Five days later, gunmen again fired at that consulate. 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APTN APEX 04-11-10 1929EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: US Arrivals Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:US Arrivals- REPLAY India, Pakistan PMs arrive ahead of nuclear conference LENGTH: 02:10 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: POOL STORY NUMBER: 642672 DATELINE: Washington - 11 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:10 POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: 1. Plane with Pakistani Prime Minster Yousuf Raza Gilani landing 2. Plane taxiing 3. Pakistani Prime Minster Yousuf Raza Gilani walks out of plane and is greeted by officials 4. US President Barack Obama, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel walking from the White House to bilateral meetings ahead of the Nuclear Summit 5. US President Barack Obama and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh photo-op STORYLINE: World leaders continued to fly into Washington on Sunday including Pakistan's president Yousuf Gilani. Pakistan, like its neighbour and long time rival India, hold nuclear weapons and both have continued a decades long dispute over the region of Kashmir which has occasionally flared into fighting. US President Barack Obama has begun a series of meetings with foreign leaders who have come to Washington for his nuclear security conference. The first to arrive for talks at Blair House across from the White House was India's prime minister, Manmohan Singh. Obama walked across Pennsylvania Avenue with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. At the conference on Monday and Tuesday, representatives of 47 countries will try to come up with an agreement on how to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of extremists. 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APTN APEX 04-11-10 1929EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: Poland Body 5 Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:Poland Body 5- REPLAY Service as body of president repatriated from Russia LENGTH: 01:54 FIRST RUN: 2030 RESTRICTIONS: Part No Access Poland TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: TVN/AP Television STORY NUMBER: 642675 DATELINE: Warsaw - 11 April 2010 LENGTH: 01:54 SHOTLIST: 1. Pan down of St Anne's Church, Presidential Palace in Warsaw 2. Interior wide shot of St Anne's Church 3. Choir performing 4. Various of choir 5. Audience listening 6. Various of people listening to the choir 7. Wide shot of people listening outside the church 8. Candles 9. People putting down candles 10. Close up candles and flowers 11. Various of candles and people putting down candles 12. Woman holding a Polish flag 13. Wide shot of Presidential palace STORYLINE Poles expressed their grief at a service at St. Anne's Church on Sunday after a plane crash in Russia killed 96 people including Poland's president and dozens of political, military and religious leaders. Poles joined a church service in Warsaw and sang hymns while thousands of others expressed their grief by tossing flowers at the hearse carrying President Lech Kaczynski's body to the presidential palace after it was returned from Russia's Smolensk airport, the site of the crash. No date for a funeral has been set. Kaczynski was the first serving Polish leader to die since exiled World War II-era leader Gen. Wladyslaw Sikorski was killed in a mysterious plane crash off Gibraltar in 1943. Church bells pealed at noon and emergency sirens shrieked for nearly a minute before fading. Hundreds bowed their heads, eyes closed, in front of the presidential palace. Buses and trams halted in the streets. The Saturday crash occurred in thick fog near the Katyn forest, where Russian secret police in 1940 executed thousands of Polish military officers. Among the dead were Poland's army chief of staff, the navy chief commander, and heads of the air and land forces. At the Field Cathedral of the Polish Army in Warsaw, hundreds gathered for a morning Mass and left flowers and written condolences. New acting chiefs of the military were in place on Sunday and an interim director of the central bank was named as Poland tried to come to grips with the loss of dozens of civilian and military leaders. Also aboard the aging Russian airliner were the national bank president, the deputy foreign minister, the army chaplain, the head of the National Security Office, the deputy parliament speaker, the Olympic Committee head, the civil rights commissioner and at least two presidential aides and three lawmakers. 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APTN APEX 04-11-10 1929EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: ++Hungary Elections 3 Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:++Hungary Elections 3- NEW Vote counting in parliamentary elections; results; Orban LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Hungarian/English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 642673 DATELINE: Budapest - 11 April 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST ++INTERIOR SHOTS++ 1. Wide of votes being counting 2. Close of ballots 3. Close pan from election worker to ballots 4. Various of election workers counting the ballots 5. Ballots being stacked and put aside ++NIGHT SHOTS++ 6. Wide of street 7. Cutaway of souvenirs, T-shirts on sale at stall 8. Election poster of centre-right Fidesz party leader Viktor Orban 9. SOUNDBITE (Hungarian) Csombor Csaba, Vox pop: "We trust Fidesz (centre-right party) would win, so (former Prime Minister Viktor) Orban will have better support in the Parliament." 10. Results being shown on large screen 11. Various of people cheering and clapping 12. Close of Hungarian flag 13. Mid of crowd welcoming election winner, centre-right Fidesz party leader Viktor Orban onto stage 14. Wide of Orban on stage, crowd cheering 15. SOUNDBITE (Hungarian) Viktor Orban, centre-right Fidesz party leader: "History is a great and close-fisted lord, but when (it) starts giving you can feel it. After the first round we can declare that we have the necessary majority to form the government." 16. Women in crowd carrying election poster 17. Close of women shouting 18. Various of people cheering 19. Zoom out from screen to the stage, party officials and supporters celebrating 20. Mid of Orban waving to supporters from the stage 21. Pull in to large screen broadcasting results 22. Couple walking in the street 23. SOUNDBITE (English) Tom Koraszi, who holds dual citizenship with Canada and Hungary: "After this election; very, very hard work, and I hope there will be enough power in the people to say 'I want to succeed'. One man can lead, but he can't do it alone." 24. Wide of the Danube River and palace STORYLINE Fidesz, Hungary's centre-right party led by former Prime Minister Viktor Orban, reclaimed the right to govern on Sunday, winning over 50 percent of the vote and handing the ruling Socialists a humiliating defeat. Fidesz's landslide victory had been expected by pollsters and its result of 52.8 percent in the first round translated into 206 seats for now in the 386-seat legislature. Orban, Prime Minister from 1998 to 2002, told a huge crowd of cheering supporters that after the first round of voting, he now had the necessary majority to form a government. Orban also told supporters that he had a huge task in front of him, facing an economy mired in recession. The extreme right Jobbik party took more than 15 percent to come in third. While widely forecast, the strong gain of Jobbik represented the greatest political shake-up of the election, shattering Hungary's traditional post-communist status quo of a parliament dominated by the centre right and the left. The governing Socialists, whom many Hungarians blame for their dismal economy, were far behind with 19.3 percent and 28 seats, followed closely by the far-right, anti-Gypsy Jobbik with 26 seats and 16.7 percent, over three times as much as any other far-right party since the country's return to democracy from communism in 1990. The depth of the Socialist fall was reflected in a comparison of their present showing to that of the last election four years ago, when they garnered 43 percent support. A green party, Politics Can Be Different, exceeded expectations with 7.4 percent and 5 seats ahead of a second round on April 25 when the fate of the remaining 111 seats is decided in runoffs for 57 constituencies where no candidate got at least half the votes. Voter turnout was 64.3 percent, down from 67.8 percent in the 2006 elections. The Socialists owed their stunning defeat to loss of credibility amassed during eight years of government and deeply unpopular austerity measures imposed in the past months. Despite the euphoria of Fidesz supporters, the party has a difficult task ahead. Hungary's economy is mired in a recession which saw the economy contract by 6.3 percent last year and unemployment rise to a new high of 11.4 percent. 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APTN APEX 04-11-10 2016EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: Mideast Holocaust Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:Mideast Holocaust- REPLAY Yad Vashem ceremony on eve of Holocaust Memorial Day LENGTH: 02:32 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: No Access Israel TYPE: Hebrew/Natsound SOURCE: IBA STORY NUMBER: 642667 DATELINE: Jerusalem - 11 April 2010 LENGTH: 02:32 IBA - NO ACESS ISRAEL SHOTLIST: 1. Wide of soldiers standing in guard of honour 2. Israeli president Shimon Peres and israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu arriving at memorial 3. Wide of service 4. Israeli Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau, a holocaust survivor, lighting torch 5. Wide of memorial 6. SOUNDBITE: (Hebrew) Shimon Peres, Israeli President: "Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of those capable of mass destruction, with voices encouraging that destruction, that is the most perilous combination to world peace, they are making the world an uncontrollable place." 7. Various of people sitting during ceremony 8. SOUNDBITE: (Hebrew) Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister: (++OVERLAID WITH VARIOUS OF AUDIENCE++) "We encounter in the best case a limp reaction, and even that is fading. We don't hear the asked for protest, we do not hear the necessary rejection, no harsh denunciation, no outcry. The world is not changing its course. As if that was not enough, there are people who criticise us, against Israel. Today, 65 years after the Holocaust we need to say with frankness, the enraging thing is the lack of revolt. The world is gradually accepting the Iranian destruction declaration against Israel and we still can't see the international determination needed in order to stop Iran in its armament. But If we have learned anything from the Holocaust it is that we must not be silent or be deterred in the face of evil." 9. End shot of memorial STORYLINE: Israeli leaders at an annual memorial day for the six million (m) Jews killed by Nazis in the Holocaust of World War II, warned of an Iranian nuclear programme they believe is aimed at weapons production. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu complained bitterly about international reaction to what he called Iran's drive toward nuclear bombs and its intention to destroy Israel, but he did not hint at a possible Israeli response. "We encounter in the best case a limp reaction, and even that is fading," Netanyahu said on Sunday. "We do not hear the necessary rejection, no harsh denunciation, no outcry." Netanyahu spoke at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, Israel's official Holocaust memorial authority, before hundreds of Holocaust survivors and their families, Israeli leaders, diplomats and others. A military honour guard stood at one side of the podium and a girls' choir on the other. "If we have learned anything from the Holocaust," Netanyahu said, "it is that we must not be silent or be deterred in the face of evil." In his address at the ceremony, President Shimon Peres recalled visiting the village in Poland where he was born. He said that nothing remained of all the Jewish homes and synagogues there. Turning to the present, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate urged the world to confront threats of genocide, singling out Iran's nuclear programme. Israel dismisses Iranian claims that it is not making nuclear bombs. "Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of those capable of mass destruction, with voices encouraging that destruction - that is the most perilous combination to world peace," Peres said. The day is one of the most solemn on Israel's calendar. Restaurants, cafes and places of entertainment closed down across Israel on Sunday evening at the start of the annual remembrance day. Local TV channels scrapped their light entertainment and substituted documentaries about the Holocaust and other similarly serious programming. Radio networks aired interviews with survivors and panel discussions about the significance of the genocide and lessons for the future. At midmorning on Monday, air raid sirens are set to wail across the country, marking two minutes of silence in memory of the victims. On Monday, Holocaust memorial day ceremonies include gatherings around the country, starting in the Israeli parliament, or Knesset, where people read the names of victims of the Holocaust. The project, called "Every Person Has a Name," is meant to break down the number of 6 million (m) into stories of individuals, families and communities wiped out during the war. 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APTN APEX 04-11-10 1929EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: Germany Buchenwald 2 Sunday, 11 April 2010 STORY:Germany Buchenwald 2- WRAP Survivors, veterans mark Buchenwald liberation LENGTH: 03:59 FIRST RUN: 1730 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: English/German/Natsound SOURCE: Various STORY NUMBER: 642670 DATELINE: Buchenwald - 11 Apr 2010/FILE LENGTH: 03:59 RTL - NO ACCESS GERMANY, Austria (except: Infoscreen, ATV+), German-speaking Switzerland (except: Telezueri), Luxembourg and Alto Adige UNIVERSAL ARCHIVES - AP CLIENTS ONLY AP PHOTOS - No Access Canada/Broadcast use only/Strictly No Access Online or Mobile SHOTLIST: RTL - NO ACCESS GERMANY, Austria (except: Infoscreen, ATV+), German-speaking Switzerland (except: Telezueri), Luxemburg and Alto Adige Weimar, Germany - April 11, 2010 1. Wide of visitors and ceremony participants at entrance gate of Buchenwald concentration camp 2. Mid of participants walking through gate 3. Various of Charles Thomas Payne, grand-uncle of US President Barack Obama UPSOUND: (English) "It's very strange." 4. Various of Payne 5. Mid of group of participants talking, tilt-down and pan to wreaths 6. Wide pan of ceremony, participants singing 7. Participant laying down wreath 8. Pan of ceremony 9. SOUNDBITE (German) Christine Lieberknecht, Premier of Thuringia State: "Memory is the imperishable of the past. Your pain, your suffering, your sorrow, honourable survivors of the hell of Buchenwald will never pass away." 10. Pan of survivors and veterans 11. SOUNDBITE (German) Norbert Lammer, German Bundestag speaker: "Many of these children would not have survived without the care of the inmates. These people serve our special respect and thanks." UNIVERSAL ARCHIVES - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Buchenwald, Near Weimar, Germany - April 1945 12. Various archive footage of Buchenwald camp after liberation AP PHOTOS - No Access Canada/Broadcast use only/Strictly No Access Online or Mobile FILE: Chicago, United States - July 22, 2008 13. STILL of Barack Obama's great uncle, Charles Payne RTL - NO ACCESS GERMANY, Austria (except: Infoscreen, ATV+), German-speaking Switzerland (except: Telezueri), Luxemburg and Alto Adige Weimar, April 11, 2010 14. Close-up of wreath with sash reading (German) "Embassy of the state of Israel" 15. Pan left of participants during minute's silence 16. People laying down roses on memorial plate 17. Mid of veterans holding flag, tilt-down to wreath 18. Wide of crowd surrounding memorial plate 19. Wide of concentration camp behind fence 20. Mid of slogan on camp entrance gate reading (German) "Each to his own" 21. Wide of entrance gate of Buchenwald concentration camp STORYLINE: Survivors of the Buchenwald concentration camp have been joined by US veterans and German dignitaries at a ceremony marking the 65th anniversary of its liberation. Participants laid wreaths, sang and later held a minute's silence in memory of those who died at the camp. "Memory is the imperishable of the past. Your pain, your suffering, your sorrow, honourable survivors of the hell of Buchenwald will never pass away," said the Premier of Thuringia State, Christine Lieberknecht, in a ceremony address. The US Army liberated Buchenwald on April 11, 1945. Some 56,000 people died at the Nazi camp, including Jews, communists, Roma and others from across central Europe. Among those present on Sunday was President Barack Obama's great-uncle, Charles Payne, who assisted in the liberation of the nearby Ohrdruf labour camp - a subcamp of Buchenwald - as a soldier with the 89th Infantry Division. Payne described being back at the camp on Sunday as "very strange". Obama visited Buchenwald last year. Israel on Monday commemorates Holocaust Memorial Day to remember the 6 million (m) Jews killed by Nazis in the Holocaust of World War II. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 04-11-10 2016EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM -------------------

AP-APTN-2330 Americas L Prime News-Final Thursday, 15 April 2010 Americas L Prime News World Ash 2 02:30 AP Clients Only WRAP Airports closed, ash, aerials, reax, vulcanologist ++Iceland Volcano 2 01:08 No Access Iceland NEW Floods force evacuations as volcano melts glacier ++UN Bhutto 02:30 AP Clients Only NEW UN investigators blame bad security for Bhutto death +US Obama Space 02:30 Pt No NAmerica/Internet NEW Obama predicts Mars landing in his lifetime; pledges support for NASA ++Mexico First Lady 02:30 AP Clients Only NEW Mexico's First Lady praises first ladies who 'draw attention to issues' ++China Wen 02:30 No Access China NEW Wen visits earthquake zone, tells rescuers "Never give up" ++UK Debate Reax 02:30 AP Clients Only NEW Reax after first UK televised election debate +UK Debate 2 05:00 See Script WRAP UK political leaders hold 1st televised election debate ADDS more ++Haiti Fuel 02:30 AP Clients Only NEW Fuel shortages add to problems in post-earthquake Haiti B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 2330 GMT. APEX 04-15-10 1956EDT -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-2330: World Ash 2 Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:World Ash 2- WRAP Airports closed, reax, voxes, vulcanologist LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/French/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 643144 DATELINE: Various - 15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) Frankfurt, Germany 1. Exterior of Frankfurt airport 2. People queuing inside terminal 3. Information board showing cancelled flights 4. Pan of people queuing 5. Close of board showing cancelled flights (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) Brussels, Belgium 6. Wide top pan of Brussels airport exterior, planes 7. Stranded passengers inside terminal 8. Tilt up of information board showing cancelled flights 9. Pan of passengers waiting 10. Low angle shot of passengers looking at departures board showing cancellations (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) Amsterdam, Netherlands 11. Group of passengers leaving Schiphol Airport with their luggage 12. Wide of people looking at departure board, zoom in on cancelled flights 13. Pan of people buying train tickets 14. SOUNDBITE (English) Marianne De Biie, Schiphol Airport spokesperson: "Nobody has any idea at this moment, we know that a lot of airspaces in Europe are closed, England, Belgium is already closed, Denmark, Scandinavia and traffic in Holland will stop as of seven o'clock this evening, and we just hope that the ashes cloud will blow over very soon." 15. Pan from empty observation deck to tarmac with grounded planes (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) Paris, France 16. Interior of Gare du Nord train station 17. Passengers carrying bags arriving at Eurostar departure area 18. SOUNDBITE (English) Elizabeth Wright, American tourist: "They told me there were no flights at the airport so they sent us here to Gare du Nord but now there are no trains. There are no trains until the twentieth (20 April, 2010) I hear, possibly Saturday we can get a train if we're lucky. If we wait in the long line we might be able to get a train on Saturday. Wait, is today Thursday? I'm all confused. That's two days from now and so I've also heard that now all of the hotels near Gare du Nord are getting full up so I don't know what I'm going to do for two days." 19. Passengers waiting to purchase tickets for Eurostar train to London (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) Newark, New Jersey, US 20. Wide of Newark Airport terminal B 21. Woman looking at flight schedule boards 22. Close pan of flight schedule board showing flights to London Heathrow cancelled (FIRST RUN 1830 NORTH AMERICA PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) New York City, New York, US 23. Various exteriors of JFK International Airport Hotel 24. Mid of stranded British tourists sitting on bench outside hotel 25. SOUNDBITE (English) Grace Schofield, 23, of Yorkshire, England: "I want to go home. I just want to go home now. I'm fed up and we have no money to stay out here and I need to rest." 26. Pan from Schofield's hands to mid of the two friends sitting on bench (FIRST RUN 2130 NEWS UPDATE - 15 APRIL 2010) Paris, France 27. Mid of passengers queueing inside Charles de Gaulle airport 28. Information screens showing cancellations 29. SOUNDBITE (English) Jay (Only name given) 22 year-old Chinese citizen studying in London: "We have to find another way back to the UK, for example Eurostar, but it is almost fully booked." (FIRST RUN 2130 NEWS UPDATE - 15 APRIL 2010) Paris, France 30. Set up of Dr. Francois Beauducel (Geo-physicist at the Institute of Earth Physics of Paris) and Dr. Freysteinn Sigmundson (Vulcanologist at the University of Iceland) walking into Dr. Beauducel's office, talking to each other and looking at chart on desk 31. SOUNDBITE (English) Dr. Freysteinn Sigmundson, Vulcanologist at the University of Iceland: "(Speaking about how long the ash will remain in the atmosphere) There is no general rule there. It is very dependent on the size of the eruption, on the climate conditions associated. What is interesting here is that it is a small eruption. The magma flow rate is not large. It is very small compared to many other eruptions. We know that in previous eruptions of this volcano, some have lasted long with intermittent activity. So this volcano can cause trouble over days or even weeks after intermittent times." 32. Cut-away of Dr. Sigmundson pointing to details on volcano map 33. Beauducel pointing to graphics on computer screen showing seismic activity 34. Close of seismic activity data on computer 35. SOUNDBITE (French) Dr. Francois Beauducel, Geo-physicist at the Institute of Earth Physics of Paris: "What is very clear is that this time, there are special circumstances and this is an eruption with little direct effect. Even in Iceland there are very few direct effects. If you look at the maps, there is a very small area that has been affected. So in this instance, we have a typical secondary eruption with effects linked to the meteorological conditions. So, you have to have the coincidence between the direction of the winds and the eruption and it's because of the combination of these two effects that it is quite exceptional." 36. Various of Dr. Francois Beauducel at his computer STORYLINE An enormous ash cloud from a remote Icelandic volcano caused the biggest flight disruption since the 2001 attacks on the twin towers in the United States on Thursday as it drifted over northern Europe and stranded travellers on six continents. Officials said it could take days for the skies to become safe again in one of aviation's most congested areas. The cloud, floating miles (kilometres) above Earth and capable of knocking out jet engines, wrecked travel plans for tens of thousands of people. Non-emergency flights in Britain were cancelled, and most will stay grounded until at least midday on Friday. Authorities in Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Belgium also closed their air space. France shut down 24 airports, including the main hub of Charles de Gaulle in Paris, while Germany's Berlin and Hamburg were shut on Thursday evening, and several flights out of the US had to turn back. A spokeswoman for air traffic service Eurocontrol said half of all trans-Atlantic flights were expected to be cancelled on Friday, and added that the ash had led to the cancellation of about four-thousand flights within Europe on Thursday, and that could rise to six-thousand on Friday. At London's Heathrow airport, normally one of the world's busiest with more than 1,200 flights and 180-thousand travellers a day, departure boards listed rows of cancelled flights. Ironically, Iceland's Keflavik airport remained open on Thursday. Flights to Europe were cancelled but those to North America were operating normally. A volcano beneath Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull glacier began erupting on Wednesday for the second time in less than a month, triggering floods and shooting smoke and steam miles into the air. About 700 people from rural areas near the volcano were evacuated on Thursday because of flash flooding, as water carrying icebergs the size of small houses rushed down the mountain. The Civil Protection Department said there could be damage to roads and other infrastructure. Video showed spectacular images of hot gases melting the thick ice, sending cascades of water thundering down the steep slopes of the volcano. The ash cloud became a menace to air travel as it drifted south and east toward northern Europe, including Britain, about 1,200 miles (two-thousand kilometres) away. The ash plume drifted at between 20-thousand feet and 36-thousand feet (six-thousand meters and 11-thousand meters), where it could get sucked into airplane engines and cause them to shut down. The smoke and ash also could affect aircraft visibility. Britain's air traffic service said late on Thursday it was extending a ban on most air traffic until 1 p.m. local time (8 a.m EDT) on Friday, but flights to Scotland and Northern Ireland may be allowed to resume before then. The agency said Britain had not halted all flights in its space in living memory, although many were grounded after the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States. Several US flights bound for Heathrow, including those from Chicago, San Francisco, Denver, Las Vegas and New York, had to return to their departure cities or land elsewhere when London airports were closed. Canadian airlines also cancelled some Europe-bound flights. In Washington, the Federal Aviation Administration said it was working with airlines to try to reroute some flights around the huge ash cloud, which is hundreds of miles wide. Flights from Asia, Africa, South America, Australia and the Middle East to Heathrow and other top European hubs were also put on hold. Eurostar train services from and to France and Belgium and Channel ferries were packed as travellers sought ways home, with many commuters struggling to buy tickets as trains quickly filled up. The Icelandic plume lies above the Atlantic Ocean close to the flight paths for most routes from the US East Coast to Europe, and over northern Europe itself. Meteorologists and vulcanologists were monitoring the flows of the ash cloud on Thursday. Dr. Francois Beauducel, a geo-physicist at the Institute of Earth Physics of Paris said that there were special circumstances surrounding the eruption. "You have to have the coincidence between the direction of the winds and the eruption and it's because of the combination of these two effects that it is quite exceptional," Beauducel said. Dr. Freysteinn Sigmundson, vulcanologist at the University of Iceland said that while the eruption was small, it could "cause trouble over days or even weeks after intermittent times." Explosive volcanic eruptions inject large amounts of highly abrasive ash, essentially very small rock fragments, into the upper atmosphere, the cruising altitude of most jet airliners. It can cause significant damage to both airframes and engines. Health protection officials in Britain said some of the ash will fall to ground level overnight, starting in Scotland before moving south, although Britain's weather forecasters said the public should not be concerned. The US Geological Survey said about 100 aircraft have run into volcanic ash from 1983 to 2000. In some cases engines shut down briefly after sucking in volcanic debris, but there have been no fatal incidents. 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Various aerial shots of flash flooding caused by melting icebergs 2. View of ash cloud seen through plane window 3. Pan of scientists abroad plane 4. Close of screen on plane instrument showing ash cloud coverage of sky 5. Scientists looking at screen, zoom in on screen showing imagery of ash cloud 6. Zoom out of ash cloud seen through plane window STORYLINE An enormous ash cloud from a remote Icelandic volcano drifted over northern Europe on Thursday and stranded air travellers on six continents. A volcano beneath Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull glacier began erupting on Wednesday for the second time in less than a month, triggering floods and shooting smoke and steam miles into the air. About 700 people from rural areas near the volcano were evacuated on Thursday because of flash flooding, as water carrying icebergs the size of small houses rushed down the mountain. The Icelandic Civil Protection Department said there could be damage to roads and other infrastructure. Hot gases melted the thick ice, sending cascades of water thundering down the steep slopes of the volcano. The ash cloud became a menace to air travel as it drifted south and east towards northern Europe. The ash plume drifted at between 20-thousand feet and 36-thousand feet (6-thousand metres and 11-thousand metres), where it could get sucked into plane engines and cause them to shut down. The smoke and ash could also affect aircraft visibility. A spokeswoman for air traffic service Eurocontrol said the ash had led to the cancellation of about 4-thousand flights within Europe on Thursday, and that could rise to 6-thousand on Friday. The Icelandic ash plume lies above the Atlantic Ocean close to flight paths over northern Europe, and most routes between Europe and the US East Coast. A geophysicist at the Icelandic Meteorological Office said the problem might persist for weeks, depending on how much wind carries the ash. 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APTN APEX 04-15-10 1933EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: ++UN Bhutto Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:++UN Bhutto- NEW UN investigators blame bad security for Bhutto death LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Natsound SOURCE: UNTV STORY NUMBER: 643150 DATELINE: New York - 15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 UNTV - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST 1. Wide of three-member United Nations Bhutto Commission of Inquiry taking their seats for news conference 2. Cutaway media 3. SOUNDBITE (English) Heraldo Munoz, Chairman of Bhutto Commission of Inquiry and Chile's UN Ambassador: "The federal government under General Musharraf (former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf), although fully aware of and tracking the serious threats to Ms. Bhutto's security, did little more than pass on those threats to her and to provincial authorities and were not proactive in neutralising them when insuring that the security provider was commensurate to the threats. The federal government failed in its primary responsibility to provide effective protection to Ms. Bhutto on her return to Pakistan." 4. Cutaway media 5. SOUNDBITE (English) Heraldo Munoz, chairperson of commission and Chile's UN Ambassador: "Ms. Bhutto's assassination could have been prevented, if the Rawalpindi District Police had taken adequate security measures. The security arrangements for Ms. Bhutto by the Rawalpindi District Police were ineffective and insufficient." 6. Cutaway media 7. SOUNDBITE (English) Heraldo Munoz, chairperson of commission and Chile's UN Ambassador: "To conclude, it remains the responsibility of the Pakistani authorities to do what has yet to be done, in the case of the assassination of Ms. Benazir Bhutto, that is to carry out a serious and credible criminal investigation that determines who conceived, planned, financed and executed this hideous crime and bring those responsible to justice. Doing so will not repair the irreparable loss that Pakistan and the world has suffered, but it will constitute a major step towards ending impunity for this political crime." 8. Cutaway media STORYLINE A United Nations commission on Thursday said the assassination of Pakistan's former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, could have been prevented and blamed all levels of government for failing to provide adequate security. It also accused intelligence agencies and other officials of severely hampering the investigation into her murder. Bhutto was killed in a gun and suicide-bomb attack on December 27, 2007, as she was leaving a rally in the garrison town of Rawalpindi, where she was campaigning to return her Pakistan People's Party to power in parliamentary elections. There had previously been an attempt on her life when she returned to Pakistan ten weeks earlier on October 18, 2007 after eight and a half years in self-imposed exile. The panel said her death could have been prevented if the government under then-President Pervez Musharraf, the Punjab state government, and the Rawalpindi District Police had taken adequate security measures. "The security arrangements for Ms. Bhutto by the Rawalpindi District Police were ineffective and insufficient," Chile's UN Ambassador Heraldo Munoz, who chaired the three-member commission told a news conference. The commission also found that the investigation into her death was severely hampered by intelligence agencies and other government officials, and criticised the Pakistani authorities for failing to conduct a "serious and credible criminal investigation" or bring those responsible to justice. "Doing so will not repair the irreparable loss that Pakistan and the world has suffered, but it will constitute a major step towards ending impunity for this political crime," Munoz said. He added that it was not the role of the commission to make any judgments on whether the failure to provide adequate security was deliberate. Musharraf's government blamed Baitullah Mehsud, a Pakistani militant commander with reported links to al-Qaida. Officials at the US Central Intelligence Agency also said Mehsud was the chief suspect. But Bhutto's party repeatedly hinted that Musharraf or his allies were involved and demanded a UN probe, claiming it was the only way the truth would be revealed. Faranaz Ispahani, spokeswoman for President Asif Ali Zardari, Bhutto's husband, said: "The UN commission has meticulously identified the criminal attitude of the previous dictatorial regime that led to Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto's death." "The report will pave the way for a proper police investigation and possible penal proceedings," she told the Associated Press in Islamabad. The commission said Musharraf's government, though fully aware and tracking threats against Bhutto, did little more than pass them on to her and to provincial authorities and did not take action to neutralise them or ensure "that the security provided was commensurate with the threats." The commission said the additional security provided by Bhutto's party "lacked leadership and were inadequate and poorly executed." The commission criticised the Rawalpindi District Police's actions in the immediate aftermath of the murder, including "the hosing down of the crime scene and failure to collect and preserve evidence." The decision to not conduct an autopsy made it impossible to determine a precise cause of death, the panel said. The commission said that it was the general opinion that the 15 and a half-year-old suicide bomber who killed Bhutto was not acting alone, and faced threats from a number of places, "including al-Qaida, the Taliban, local jihadi groups and potentially from elements in the Pakistani establishment." However, the investigation focused on pursuing "lower level operatives," not those further up the hierarchy. The commission said Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence conducted parallel investigations, gathering evidence which was only selectively shared with the police. The commission's report also said it believed that police failure to investigate Bhutto's assassination "effectively" was "deliberate." The commission urged the Pakistani government to conduct a thorough review of intelligence agencies "based on international best practices" and reform of the police to ensure "democratic policing" and protection of individual human rights. To address the broader issue of impunity for political crimes, the commission called for Pakistan to consider establishing a "fully independent Truth and Reconciliation Commission to investigate political killings, disappearances and terrorism in recent years" and provide victims with "material and moral reparations." The report was originally scheduled to be presented on March 30 but Zardari asked Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to delay the release and he agreed. Pakistan's presidential spokesman, Farhatullah Babar, said the country asked for the delay so the commission could attempt to question two heads of state who he said had called Bhutto before her death warning her of "serious threats to her life." The commission responded saying its investigation had been completed. Munoz, a dissident who was imprisoned during the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet, said the commission received "significant support" from the Pakistani government and many of its citizens. It conducted more than 250 interviews and reviewed hundreds of documents, videos, photographs and documentary material, he said. The UN secretary-general set up a special trust fund to pay for the commission's work and asked for voluntary contributions. UN associate spokesman Farhan Haq said on Wednesday that the Pakistani government was the major contributor. 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APTN APEX 04-15-10 2146EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: ++US Obama Space Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:++US Obama Space- NEW Obama predicts Mars landing in his lifetime; pledges support for NASA LENGTH: 03:03 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: Pt No NAmerica/Internet TYPE: English/Nats SOURCE: Various STORY NUMBER: 643148 DATELINE: Florida - 5/14/15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 03:03 POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET NASA TV - AP CLIENTS ONLY AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY Cape Canaveral, Florida - April 15, 2010 1. Wide of rocket on launch pad, expected to to take cargo to the International Space Station after next month's test launch 2. Zoom out of US President Barack Obama walking towards Falcon 9 rocket 3. Close-up Obama listening to Elon Musk, chief executive of SpaceX POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 4. Pan Obama walking onto stage 5. Cutaway of audience applauding and taking seats ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 6. SOUNDBITE: (English) Barack Obama, US President: "I am 100 percent committed to the mission of NASA and its future." 7. Close-up of audience applauding NASA TV - AP CLIENTS ONLY Cape Canaveral, Florida - April 5, 2010 ++NIGHT SHOT++ 8. Various of space shuttle Discovery launch ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 9. SOUNDBITE: (English) Barack Obama, US President: "We'll start by sending astronauts to an asteroid for the first time in history. By the mid-2030s, I believe we can send humans to orbit Mars and return them safely to Earth. And a landing on Mars will follow. And I expect to be around to see it." POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 10. Close-up audience members applauding ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 11. SOUNDBITE: (English) Barack Obama, US President: "The point is what we're looking for is not just to continue on the same path - we want to leap into the future. We want major breakthroughs - a transformative agenda for NASA." POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 12. Wide of Obama speaking ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 13. SOUNDBITE: (English) Barack Obama, US President: "The bottom line is, nobody is more committed to manned space flight, to human exploration of space than I am. But we've got to do it in a smart way, and we can't just keep on doing the same old things that we've been doing and thinking that somehow is going to get us to where we want to go." POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY Kennedy Space Centre, Florida - April 15, 2010 14. Close-up astronaut Buzz Aldrin listening 15. Wide of Obama leaving stage AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Titusville, Florida - April 14, 2010 16. Wide entrance to Kennedy Space Centre 17. SOUNDBITE: (English) Christine Raub, Space Shuttle worker: "You may see it as 30 years old, we see it as still young. The orbiters were built for 100 flights." 18. Wide of shut down motel 19. Close-up exterior shot of motel lobby 20. Wide of motel behind fence 21. Papers blow in wind on sidewalk of abandoned shopping centre 22. Various shots of Laurilee Thompson, restaurant owner, in her kitchen 23. SOUNDBITE: (English) James Tulley, Titusville Mayor: "You have to remember that the people who live here helped to put a man on the moon, they helped to build that space station up there. These are not unsophisticated people. They're talented people, they're creative people, and we'll figure out a way." 24. Car passes Mercury-Redstone rocket outside space centre 25. Pull out of abandoned shopping centre STORYLINE: US President Barack Obama predicted on Thursday that his new space exploration plans would lead American astronauts to Mars and back in his lifetime, a bold forecast relying on rockets and propulsion still to be imagined and built. Several former astronauts have contended Obama's planned changes to the US space programme will deal a staggering blow to the nation's manned space flight plans. Fighting back in front of an audience at the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida, Obama said he was "100 percent committed to the mission of NASA and its future." The president said of the pioneering US space trips, first to an asteroid and then on to Mars, "I expect to be around to see it." He spoke near the historic Kennedy Space Centre launch pads that sent the first men to the moon. "We want to leap into the future, not continue on the same path as before," Obama said as he sought to reassure NASA workers that America's space adventures would soar on despite the impending termination of space shuttle flights. His prediction was reminiscent of President John F. Kennedy's declaration in 1961, of man landing on the Moon. That goal was fulfilled in 1969. Obama did not predict a Mars landing soon. But he said that by 2025 "we'll start by sending astronauts to an asteroid for the first time in history," he said. "By the mid-2030s, I believe we can send humans to orbit Mars and return them safely to Earth. And a landing on Mars will follow." He outlined plans for federal spending to bring more private companies into space exploration following the soon-to-end space shuttle programme. He acknowledged criticism for his drastic changes to the space agency's direction. But, he said, "The bottom line is: Nobody is more committed to manned space flight, the human exploration of space, than I am. But we've got to do it in a smart way; we can't keep doing the same old things as before." Among his most vocal critics has been Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon. Obama did not mention Armstrong, who did not attend the speech, but he did praise Buzz Aldrin, one of Armstrong's Apollo 11 crewmates. Aldrin did attend the speech, flying in with Obama on Air Force One. Obama also said his administration would rescue a small part of the moon programme: its Orion crew capsule. But instead of taking four astronauts to the moon, the not-yet-built Orion will be slimmed down and used as an emergency escape pod for the space station. Addressing concerns of job losses to space programme workers, particularly in Florida, Obama said that despite reports to the contrary, his plan would add more than 2,500 jobs to the Cape Canaveral region over the next two years than would the plan worked out by his predecessor. Shuttle worker Christine Raub has been working at the Kennedy Space Centre since before the first shuttle launch and she and her co-workers don't think of the shuttles as aging. "You may see it as 30 years old, we see it as still young. The orbiters were built for 100 flights." The economic news delivered by Obama will be cautiously received by local residents who have already felt the effects of the space shuttle programmes end. Restaurants have lost workers as once busy motels and shopping enters have closed their doors. 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APTN APEX 04-15-10 2056EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: ++Mexico First Lady Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:++Mexico First Lady- NEW Mexico's First Lady says first ladies can help bring attention to issues LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Spanish/Nats SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/CEPROPIE STORY NUMBER: 643152 DATELINE: Mexico City - 14/15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY CEPROPIE - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Mexico City, 15 April 2010 1. First Lady of Mexico, Margarita Zavala, seated outside Presidential Palace 2. SOUNDBITE: (Spanish) Margarita Zavala, First Lady of Mexico: "There's a part of social sensitivity, of approaching the people, which, while not to say it isn't part of the president's job, but that we (the first ladies) can facilitate more. There are some issues which we are freer to choose to address, like working with children and young people - and that helps. And of course all of our work goes along - and I'm saying it also as the wife of the president - goes along with the efforts and the priorities of a government." CEPROPIE - AP CLIENTS ONLY Mexico City, 14 April 2010 3. US First Lady Michelle Obama greeting Zavala 4. Various of Obama and Zavala talking AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Mexico City, 15 April 2010 5. SOUNDBITE: (Spanish) Margarita Zavala, First Lady of Mexico: (talking about Michelle Obama) "We have in common the fact that we are both mothers, but also, we both consider stability in our family as essential, and we're both convinced that it's important both for the family and for the president. And the other thing is that we've seen each other on other occasions, like for example, when the G20 gets together or the G8, or in Pittsburgh recently, or in February when I went to Washington. And that has also helped our friendship, on the one hand our personal friendship, our personal lives, but also the relationship we have as neighbouring countries." 6. Zavala leaving interview CEPROPIE - AP Clients Only Mexico City, 14 April 2010 7. Various of Obama and Zavala walking together STORYLINE Their presidential husbands establish official policy and formally pledge bilateral cooperation, but first ladies are often the ones who can most effectively draw attention to certain social issues, Mexico's first lady said in an interview on Thursday. Margarita Zavala spent three days visiting schools and museums in Mexico City with US first lady Michelle Obama. They may not have been talking about Mexico's rampant drug violence or the 275-thousand Mexicans deported from the US last year, but it was clear that the children and family programmes they highlighted could help resolve such grim and entrenched problems. "There are some issues which we (the first ladies) are freer to choose to address, like working with children and young people," Zavala told The Associated Press during an exclusive interview at the presidential residence in the capital Mexico City. Beyond their shared ideals, Zavala and Michelle Obama also appear to be developing a strong personal friendship, the two laughed together and chatted cheerfully at various events. Seeing each other fairly often at gatherings like the G20 and the G8 has "helped our friendship, on the one hand our personal friendship, but also the relationship we have as neighbouring countries," Zavala told the AP. Finding common ground has been easy for the two women: They're both well-educated lawyers who left their professional lives to back their husband's political careers and raise their young children. The Obamas have two daughters: Sasha, 8, and Malia, 11. Zavala and Calderon have three children: Maria, 13; Luis Felipe, 10; and Juan Pablo, 7. "We both consider stability in our family as essential, and we're both convinced that it's important both for the family and for the president," she said. Family stability and positive opportunities for young people are the messages that both first ladies stressed during Michelle Obama's two-day visit to Mexico. Since her husband took office, Zavala has been advocating improvements in the plight of thousands of Mexican children who immigrate alone to the US in search of their parents. She says about 50-thousand children are deported back to Mexico every year, including 22-thousand who travelled unaccompanied by adults. Some never find their parents, she said. In recent months, Zavala also has joined Michelle Obama's campaign to reduce childhood obesity, while Obama has advocated strengthening opportunities for Mexican children. Meanwhile, Mexico's increasingly brutal drug-gang violence has seen nearly 23-thousand people killed since Zavala's husband, Mexican President Felipe Calderon, took office in late 2006 and promptly deployed more than 45-thousand soldiers to battle the drug cartels. The troops have taken out several top drug traffickers, only to see new drug bosses quickly take their places. The US has supported the effort, providing helicopters, dogs, surveillance gear and other law-enforcement support through the 1.3 (b) billion US dollar Merida Initiative. Critics say the army-led offensive is only fuelling the war. For them, the real solution would be to reduce the heavy demand for drugs in the US while stimulating the Mexican economy to provide other opportunities for would-be drug traffickers. As the first ladies were meeting on Wednesday night, six people were killed, including a mother and her 8-year-old child, a taxi driver and a federal police officer, and five wounded during an apparently drug-related gunbattle on the main boulevard of the Pacific coast resort city of Acapulco. President Barack Obama and his top Cabinet officials have repeatedly visited Mexico to underscore their shared responsibility for violence stemming from drug trafficking, but Michelle Obama and Zavala are pressing for social programmes that, in the end, may present more subtle and effective solutions. 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APTN APEX 04-15-10 2024EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: ++UK Debate Reax Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:++UK Debate Reax- NEW Reax after first UK televised election debate LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 643141 DATELINE: Manchester/London - 15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: Manchester 1. Pull out from screen showing beginning of debate programme to wide of media centre 2. Various of members of media watching debate 3. Wide of Conservative Treasury Spokesman George Osbourne briefing media 4. Wide of Business Secretary Lord Mandelson talking to media 5. SOUNDBITE: (English) Lord Mandelson, British Business Secretary: "I don't want to claim victory for Brown; all I'd say is that he's shown himself very comfortable and very at ease with this format, certainly performing a darn sight better, if I may say, than he sometimes comes across at Prime Minister's Questions in the House of Commons." 6. Wide of ministers and their advisors talking to media 7. SOUNDBITE: (English) William Hague, Conservative Shadow Foreign Secretary: "David Cameron won. I've only seen one survey so far but he was well ahead in that survey, and I think he won the debate. I think he showed he can be a prime minister. I think his answers in particular on the health service, on discipline in schools, on immigration, showed what a change he would bring to this country and that's what he wanted to get across." 8. Wide of Liberal Democrat Treasury Spokesman Vince Cable talking to media 9. Cutaway of cameraman 10. SOUNDBITE: (English) Vince Cable, Liberal Democrat Treasury Spokesman: "I think because we get less exposure in between elections I think the public were not as familiar with him (Nick Clegg) as with David Cameron and Gordon Brown, but they've seen the personality now and I think this came across in a very attractive way, very calm, but very passionate about the things he and we as a party feel strongly about. I think it was a very successful debate for him." London 11. Wide of body language expert Robert Phipps watching debate on monitor, zoom in to UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown on screen 12. SOUNDBITE: (English) Robert Phipps, body language expert: "Obviously they've had an awful lot of coaching before they went into tonight's debate and some of it has paid off for them, some of it hasn't. I think the fact that Nick Clegg has possibly been trained to actually look directly down the camera, I think that went too far and it will go against him. David Cameron was not very forceful, his hand gestures were not very dominant, whereas Gordon Brown's hand gestures were very emphatic, very dominant, using a lot of clenched fists and pointing the thumb forward - so if anybody was going to come out on top in terms of the dominant stakes, and who was the more controlling, and if you like, the alpha male of the three, I think Gordon Brown came off the better of the three." 13. Wide pan of exterior of sports bar where debate is being shown ++NIGHT SHOT++ 14. Various of people watching debate in bar 15. SOUNDBITE: (English) Vox pop, Jonathan Bartley, director of think tank Ekklesia: "I'm warming to Nick Clegg. It's been very interesting to see him debate with Cameron and Brown on a level playing field, and actually hear what he has to say - so often his voice seems to be drowned out, to hear him actually putting his position alongside the other two party leaders, makes you realise that he has something to say." 16. SOUNDBITE: (English) Vox pop, Jessica Leonard, consultant: "As a voter in this country I'm just really pleased to actually see them there on television, you know, getting up there in front of us and defending their views. Because very often, you know, when you vote in an election, all you get is a large document, and no one ever ends up reading it, and then you just get the views of the pundits on television." 17. Pan across people watching debate STORYLINE As Britain's first-ever televised election debate came to an end on Thursday, an army of spin doctors and senior politicians poured into the media centre in Manchester to weave their account of what happened, and who came out on top. Gordon Brown's minister for business, Lord Mandelson, said he wasn't claming victory for Brown - but he performed "a darn sight better, if I may say, than he sometimes comes across at Prime Minister's Questions" in parliament. William Hague, who's expected to become foreign secretary if David Cameron enters Downing Street, said Cameron had won the debate and his answers "showed what a change he would bring to this country." Vince Cable, for the third place Liberal Democrats, said it was a success for party leader Nick Clegg because it had raised his profile - a view widely shared by pollsters. But body language expert Robert Phipps said Clegg had not come across as well as Brown in terms of the physical image he projected. He said Clegg's habit of looking "directly down the camera" to try to engage viewers at home instead of the studio audience "went too far and it will go against him." Phipps said Brown had come across as the most dominant of the three leaders, with his use of "emphatic" hand gestures and "clenched fists", in contrast to David Cameron. Initial polls handed the victory to Clegg. A ComRes poll conducted immediately after the debate ended, said 43 percent of the people thought Clegg was the clear winner; 26 percent thought the Conservatives' David Cameron won and 20 percent thought Labour's Prime Minister Gordon Brown won. There was some 11 percent who thought there was no clear winner. ComRes sampled some 4,032 people by telephone immediately after the debate for ITV News. No margin of error was given, but in samples of a similar size there is plus or minus of less than two percentage points. A crowd gathered to watch the debate in a sports bar in central London, with many people praising Clegg's performance. Jonathan Bartley, the director of think tank Ekklesia, said he was warming to Clegg and that it was "very interesting to see him debate with Cameron and Brown on a level playing field." One woman said she was pleased to see the leaders defending their views in a more personal way on television instead of simply through weighty manifestos. Because very often, you know, when you vote in an election, all you get is a large document, and no one ever ends up reading it, and then you just get the views of the pundits on television." The debate was billed as an exciting prelude to one of the closest elections in years, but it was more subdued than US presidential debates or even the vicious exchanges often seen in Parliament. An estimated 20 (m) million tuned in to see the candidates inside a Manchester studio. Swing votes will be crucial in this election. A Populus poll for the Times newspaper showed the Labour Party closing in on the Conservatives. The poll gave the Conservatives 36 percent - a drop of 3 percentage points - to Labour's 33 percent. The Liberal Democrats had 21 percent. The margin of error was 2.5 percentage points. Many polls say that because the election is so close that no party may win an outright majority in Parliament. If that happens, it will be the first time since 1974 that Britain has seen a hung Parliament. If there is a hung Parliament, that could prompt yet another election this year. An estimated 6 (m) million swing votes are at stake. The next two debates on April 22 and April 29 will focus on foreign policy issues and the economy, the most significant of all issues in the May 6 election. 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APTN APEX 04-15-10 2146EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: +UK Debate 2 Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:+UK Debate 2- WRAP UK political leaders hold 1st televised election debate ADDS more LENGTH: 05:00 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: English/Nats SOURCE: ITV STORY NUMBER: 643146 DATELINE: Manchester - 15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 05:00 ITV - AP CLIENTS ONLY +++TELEVISION RESTRICTIONS: 1. All clips must be credited on-screen and verbally afterwards as follows: "The First Election Debate courtesy of ITV" 2. No usage after 2259 GMT on Saturday 15 May 2010 ++++ONLINE RESTRICTIONS: Online clients can use up to ten minutes of clips, subject to the following restrictions: 1. All clips must be credited as follows: "The First Election Debate courtesy of ITV" 2. No usage before 2100 GMT on Thursday 15 April 2010 3. No usage after 2259 GMT on Saturday 15 May 2010 SHOTLIST (FIRST RUN 2130 NEWS UPDATE - 15 APRIL 2010) 1. Various of opening montage 2. Various of moderator Alistair Stewart opening proceedings, the three leaders, Labour's Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Conservative leader David Cameron and Nick Clegg of the Liberal Democrats standing at lecterns ++NEW (FIRST RUN 2330 LATAM PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) 3. SOUNDBITE (English) Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrats leader: ++Includes cutaway of audience++ "Don't let them tell you that the only choice is between two old parties who have been playing pass the parcel with your government for the 65 years now, making the same promises, breaking the same promises. Making the same old mistakes over and over again. Because I think all the challenges, all the problems we have, I think we can be really hopeful about the future. I genuinely believe we could have a better country if we do things differently. So give real change a chance." 4. Cutaway of party leaders 5. SOUNDBITE (English) Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister: ++Includes cutaways++ "We have got to make a decision now about we secure the recovery this year. We've got to make a decision about whether we put funds into this economy, or take them out of the economy. Now, I am very clear - we mustn't make the mistakes of the 1930s or the 1980s when unemployment rose for five years after the official end of the recession. So we've got to make sure that money is in the economy this year so that the recovery is secure. And then we've got to make sure that as we cut our deficit, we are fair to our national health service, our policing and our schools. And that's why the National Insurance rise is necessary, to protect our health service, our schools and our police." 6. Wide top shot 7. SOUNDBITE (English) David Cameron, Conservative leader: ++Includes various cutaways++ "I think one of the things I have heard in this debates is just repeated attempts to try and frighten you about a Conservative government. And I would say, choose hope over fear, because we have incredibly exciting and optimistic plans for the future country. A great vision where we build a bigger society, where we get our economy moving, where we stop Labour's jobs tax which could destroy the economy. I think it's been shown tonight the idea you have to go on wasting money to secure the recovery is simply wrong. You heard a lot about policy tonight, but I think as important as policy, is your values." 8. Cutaway of debate 9. SOUNDBITE (English) Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrats leader: "Well I don't think any politician deserves your trust, you talked about credibility, deserves any credibility, until everyone has come clean about what has gone wrong. Now there have been some changes to the expenses rules. But you know there are still people who haven't taken full responsibility for some of the biggest abuses of the system." 10. Wide of debate 11. SOUNDBITE (English) David Cameron, Conservative leader: "We are not seeing enough police on the street, we are not catching enough burglars, we are not convicting enough and, when we do convict them, they are not getting long enough sentences." 12. Audience member asking question 13. SOUNDBITE (English) Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrats leader: "We should have a complete review on whether our military equipment is right for job that we're asking our brave soldiers and brave servicemen and women to do, because of course the world is changing, and the threats to this country are changing with it." (FIRST RUN 2130 NEWS UPDATE - 15 APRIL 2010) 14. SOUNDBITE (English) Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister: "Six (b) billion pounds out of the economy means lost jobs, it means lost businesses, it means lost growth. If we take that money out of the economy now, I fear for what could happen. And we do not want to have a double-dip recession in this country." 15. Cutaway audience member asking question ++NEW (FIRST RUN 2330 LATAM PRIME NEWS - 15 APRIL 2010) 16. SOUNDBITE (English) Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrats leader: ++Includes cutaway of audience++ "I think everybody will be surprised that the last question of the evening should actually have flowed into so much consensus. I think it's one of those issues, a bit like public sector pensions, I also think the scale of the public sector deficit, it's one of those issues where I think if we could go introduce and new kind of politics in this country, not the old style of politics, we could actually come up with a solution that everybody could agree to, because I think you and your family would benefit so much." (FIRST RUN 2130 NEWS UPDATE - 15 APRIL 2010) 10. Various of leaders shaking hands and leaving at the end of debate, to audience applause, Brown coming forward to shake hands with members of the audience STORYLINE Preliminary polls indicated a victory for the leader of Britain's third-placed political party, following a historic, televised debate between the three candidates vying to become the country's next Prime Minister. Thursday's 90-minute clash between Labour's Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Conservative leader David Cameron and Nick Clegg of the Liberal Democrats focused on domestic issues, including crime and immigration policy. Pollsters expected the debate to break the deadlock in this wildly unpredictable national election, with half of the British electorate, some 20 (m) million people, expected to be watching the show. After the debate finished, just after 2100 GMT, two polls in its immediate aftermath suggested that it was Nick Clegg, the outsider in a traditionally two-horse race between Labour and the Conservatives, that had emerged victorious. Research by YouGov for British tabloid newspaper suggested the Lib Dem leader had impressed voters most, rating him as the most impressive by 51 percent, well ahead of ahead of David Cameron on 29 percent and Gordon Brown on 19 percent. YouGov questioned a representative sample of 1,091 viewers, asking them to leave aside their own party preference in delivering an assessment. A ComRes poll for ITV News echoed those findings, rating him as the winner by 43 percent of the 4,032 viewers polled, almost double Cameron's score of 26 percent and Brown's 20 percent. The 43-year-old looked relaxed with his hand resting in his pocket. He also spoke confidently and passionately - often looking intently into the camera or to the audience - about topics ranging from immigration to greed in the banking industry. Audience members in Thursday's debate asked questions about immigration, health care, pensioners, the economy and the armed forces. Clegg called for a complete review of equipment provided to the military, which include troops fighting in Afghanistan. But the question that seemed to resonate most with the audience and the candidates was over the expense scandal last year that exposed lawmakers of all three main political parties for submitting claims for everything from pornography to country estate chandeliers. Many voters have said they have been disgusted by politics since the expense scandal that began unraveling as Britain sunk deeper into economic turmoil. Clegg responded to the question about what parties would do to clean up politics forcefully, calling for an overhaul of Britain's political system and accusing Cameron's party of protecting Conservative donor Lord Ashcroft, a Belize-based billionaire who has funded the party for more than a decade. Donations are under investigation by the Electoral Commission since allegations that the company was not eligible to give money because it was based abroad with no direct UK connection. "There are still people who haven't taken full responsibility for some of the biggest abuses of the system," said Clegg. Clegg's remarks also seemed pointed at Cameron's social class - the 43-year-old Cameron comes from a privileged family and is married to an aristocrat's daughter. Since he took the reigns of the Conservative Party, he has been trying to convince voters with the idea that the party once led by Margaret Thatcher is more compassionate and inclusive today. Cameron often clashed with Clegg and Brown, saying the current law and order system wasn't working properly." "We are not seeing enough police on the street, we are not catching enough burglars, we are not convicting enough and, when we do convict them, they are not getting long enough sentences," said Cameron. The Conservatives' manifesto has pledged to scrap planned increases to national insurance, a payroll tax levied on employers and their workers. "If we take that money out of the economy now, I fear for what could happen. And we do not want to have a double-dip recession in this country," Brown said. Britain's uncertain national election may deliver a surprising twist: The country's perennial third-placed party, the hitherto toothless Liberal Democrats, could play kingmaker. For the first time in nearly 40 years, polls suggest neither the governing Labour Party nor the main opposition Conservatives may win an outright parliamentary majority in the country's May 6 election. That would plunge Britain into a frantic round of political bartering not seen since 1974, creating a hung Parliament in which the Liberal Democrats will likely decide the fate of Brown and his main challenger, Cameron. While traditionally aligned with Brown's centre-left Labour party, the Liberal Democrats look increasingly likely to side with the more dynamic Cameron forming a pact that would oust Labour after 13 years in office. Brown and Cameron appeared to spend much time agreeing with the Liberal Democrat leader, while Clegg talked of cross-party consensus when it came to the issue of dealing with the elderly. "I think if we could go introduce and new kind of politics in this country, not the old style of politics, we could actually come up with a solution that everybody could agree to, because I think you and your family would benefit so much," said Clegg during the debate. Two more televised debates, on April 22 and April 29, will focus on foreign policy issues and the economy, also significant issues in the May 6 election. 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APTN APEX 04-15-10 2102EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-2330: ++Haiti Fuel Thursday, 15 April 2010 STORY:++Haiti Fuel- NEW Fuel shortages add to problems in post-earthquake Haiti LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Creole/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 643151 DATELINE: Port-au-Prince - 15 Apr 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST 1. Wide petrol station near downtown 2. People queuing for petrol 3. Men pressed around petrol pump 4. Various shots of plastic containers placed on ground by pump 5. Zoom out of policeman holding gun to crowd 6. Men pushing up against each other in queue 7. SOUNDBITE: (Creole) Etienne Joseph, Resident queuing for petrol: "Preval can't organise anything, look at this, this government does nothing for us." 8. Station attendant putting petrol pump in car 9. Close of petrol purchase meter rolling 10. Wide shot of idle fuel trucks near fuel depot Cite Soleil 11. Wide shot of fuel storage tank 12. Front-loader driving down normally traffic-packed street 13. Pan from man sitting under a tree and looking at idle fuel storage depot, to idle truck STORYLINE Haitians scuffled at petrol pumps and waited for hours at filling stations on Thursday as the quake-ravaged country struggled with fuel shortages caused by a delayed shipment from Venezuela. Drivers chased rumours of available petrol across the hills of the rubble-filled capital in the aftermath of the January 12 earthquake. Some abandoned their cars to carry empty milk jugs, bottles and buckets on foot to collect as much fuel as rationing station owners would allow them to buy. The impoverished Caribbean nation is dependent on imports to fuel cars, generators and the intricately painted group taxis known as "tap-taps" that connect people to jobs, food and each other. Haitian officials tried to reassure citizens, telling them fuel would arrive on Sunday aboard the delayed Royal Dutch Shell-operated tanker, but that did little to soothe nerves. Etienne Joseph, a resident in line at a packed queue for fuel, said "look at this, this government does nothing for us." The country's limited fuel supply is replenished twice a month by ship, much provided under preferential terms by Venezuela's PetroCaribe program. The shipment scheduled to arrive on Tuesday was delayed during an intermediate stop in the eastern Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda. With few reserves on hand, distributors clamped down and limited customers to about five gallons (22 litres) at a time. Petrol sold for about 5 US dollars a gallon (1.30 US dollars a litre) in the capital on Thursday, a typical price in the fuel-starved country. Finance Minister Ronald Baudin said the government has authorised petrol companies to import from the neighbouring Dominican Republic, which also suffers from fuel shortages, but acknowledged "the distribution is a little slow." Baudin told The Associated Press that officials are trying to set up a three-month supply of fuel to act as a "buffer" in case of future delays. A senior official with the United Nations mission in Haiti said earthquake relief efforts have not been affected because the international body and humanitarian groups have reserves to last through the weekend. But if the shipment does not arrive by Sunday, the petrol shortage will become critical, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity. 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AP-APTN-2330: Canada US UK Saturday, 26 June 2010 STORY:Canada US UK- REPLAY Bilateral meetings at G8 with Obama with Cameron LENGTH: 02:30 FIRST RUN: 2130 RESTRICTIONS: No Access NAmerica/Internet TYPE: Eng/Nats SOURCE: ABC STORY NUMBER: 649659 DATELINE: Toronto - 26 June 2010 LENGTH: 02:30 ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET SHOTLIST Huntsville 1. US President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron walking towards Marine One helicopter and getting in, en route to Toronto Toronto 2. Marine One approaching landing spot 3. Pan from photographers to wide of Marine One on the ground in Toronto 4. Mid shot of Obama and Cameron getting out of the chopper and walking across the lawn 5. Wide shot of Obama and Cameron during bilateral meeting 6. SOUNDBITE (English) Barack Obama, US President: "The last conversation I had with David Cameron was before, well I guess it wasn't the last one, but a recent conversation was before the match between the United States and England at the World Cup. And since it ended in a tie, we are exchanging and paying off our debts at the same time. This is Goose Island 312 beer from my hometown of Chicago and David, I understand this is..." 7. SOUNDBITE (English) David Cameron, British Prime Minister: "This is Hobgoblin, from the Wychwood Brewery in Whitney in my constituency." 8. SOUNDBITE (English) Barack Obama, US President: "And so, I advised him that in America, we drink our beer cold. So he has to put this in the refrigerator before he drinks it, but I think he will find it outstanding. And I'm happy to give that a shot, although I will not drink it warm." 9. SOUNDBITE (English) British Prime Minister David Cameron "It's 5.2 percent, you can have it cold, it's all right, but I don't think you'll like it (cold)." 10. Obama and Cameron clink bottles and say "cheers", exchange bottles on table 11. SOUNDBITE (English) Barack Obama, US President: "We are convinced that we have the right strategy to provide the time and the space for the Afghan government to build up capacity over the next several months and years, and this period that we're in right now is going to be critical, both on the political front and on the military front, and there's going to be extremely close consultation between our two countries." 12. SOUNDBITE (English) David Cameron, British Prime Minister: "It's been great to have this opportunity of the meeting, and the discussions we had at the G-8 and the G-20. And thank you also for the lift between the two. You threatened to send me a bill, but as I said, times are very tight in the UK, so I'm afraid we'll have to take that as a free lift." 13. Wide shot of Obama and Cameron STORYLINE: US President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron said on Saturday that the troubled Afghanistan war must show progress this year. The two leaders, concluding their first meeting since the British Conservative leader took power last month with a coalition government, said their nations have the right strategy in Afghanistan. "This period that we are in is going to be critical," Obama said. With a resurgent Taliban, major US-led offensives planned, and June already the deadliest month of the nine-year-old Afghanistan war, the fight is considered at a critical juncture. Earlier, Obama and Cameron were among those putting their seal on a statement from the summit of the leading eight industrial democracies that sketched out a strategy for enabling Afghanistan security forces to take over increased responsibility for the country within five years. Cameron also said separately, in a television interview, that there will likely be no British troops in Afghanistan five years from now. The meeting between Obama and Cameron had an informal feel after the president gave his British ally a ride back to Toronto on his specially outfitted presidential helicopter. "He threatened to send me a bill," Cameron joked. "But I said times are very tight in the UK, so I'll have to take that as a free lift." There was more joking surrounding their bet over the US-England football match in the World Cup, which ended in a 1-1 tie. So each gave the other a beer: "Goose Island 312," brewed in Chicago, from Obama to Cameron, and "Hobgoblin" from the British leader's constituency of Whitney, from Cameron to Obama. The two had been expected to address the difficulties that the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has introduced into the American-British relationship. BP PLC, a British-based company, which also has significant American interests, has come under fierce criticism from Obama and others in the US since a rig it was leasing exploded on April 20, causing the biggest offshore oil spill in US history. Neither leader mentioned the topic when the two briefly addressed reporters after their hour-long session. 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AP-APTN-1830 North America Prime News -Final Tuesday, 30 March 2010 North America Prime News Canada G8 02:58 No Access Canada REPLAY G-8 foreign ministers meet in Canada, family photo Russia Blasts Wrap 04:06 AP Clients Only WRAP Memorial, morgue, Medvedev, Putin, US Ambo, analyst Afghan US 01:35 AP Clients Only REPLAY Chairman of US Joint Chiefs tours Marjah after US operation Pakistan Diplomat 02:27 Pt No Iran/No BBC Persian TV/No VOA Persian TV REPLAY Iranian agents free diplomat kidnapped in Pakistan Mideast Land Day 03:33 AP Clients Only REPLAY Land Day events, Fayyad, Palestinian rallies ++US Fairground 01:15 No Access NAmerica/Internet NEW 2 stranded in the air on stalled Miami fair ride SKorea President 02:03 AP Clients Only REPLAY President visits scene of sinking China Babies 00:58 No Access China REPLAY Two mortuary workers detained after 21 babies' bodies found in river Argentina Maradona 01:49 Part No Access Brazil REPLAY Argentina coach Maradona bitten on lip by dog Switz Cern 2 02:17 AP Clients Only WRAP Atom smasher sets collision record, collider B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 1830 GMT. APEX 03-30-10 1456EDT -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-1830: Canada G8 Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Canada G8- REPLAY G-8 foreign ministers meet in Canada, family photo LENGTH: 02:58 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: No Access Canada TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: CTV STORY NUMBER: 641562 DATELINE: Gatineau, Quebec - 30 March 2010 LENGTH: 02:58 CTV - NO ACCESS CANADA SHOTLIST: 1. Wide of G-8 (Group of Eight) foreign ministers lining up for photo 2. Zoom in and pan across foreign ministers 3. Foreign ministers eating maple syrup and ice, zoom out 4. Wide of foreign ministers outside 5. Foreign ministers entering conference room 6. Wide of conference room 7. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov talking with German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle 9. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper entering room 10. Sergei Lavrov and Guido Westerwelle listening to Harper 11. SOUNDBITE: (English) Stephen Harper, Canadian Prime Minister: "Your meeting today does come however at a particularly difficult time in the international community's dealings with the governments of Iran and North Korea. Both are countries whose actions contravene their international obligations. Both use violence and intimidation to deprive their citizens of fundamental rights. Both are serious threats to global security." 12. Close-up of US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner 13. SOUNDBITE: (English) Stephen Harper, Canadian Prime Minister: "There is much at stake if nuclear proliferation leads to the use of nuclear weapons whether by state or non-state actors, then no matter where the bombs are set off, the catastrophe will be felt around the world." 14. Wide of ministers as Canadian Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon adjourns meeting, Harper gets up to shake hands 15. Harper shaking hands with Clinton and others STORYLINE: Top diplomats from the world's leading economies increased pressure on both Iran and North Korea on Tuesday over their suspected nuclear programmes. Opening a conference of foreign ministers from the eight industrialized nations, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Iran must halt its nuclear enrichment activities and comply with demands to come clean about its atomic program. "Your meeting today does come however at a particularly difficult time in the international community's dealings with the governments of Iran and North Korea," Harper told the visiting ministers. "Both are countries whose actions contravene their international obligations. Both use violence and intimidation to deprive their citizens of fundamental rights. Both are serious threats to global security," he added. Iran is already under three sets of UN Security Council sanctions and China has been holding up consideration of a fourth, saying diplomacy must be given more time to work. But last week it softened its position in a conference call among senior officials from the six nations working most closely on the matter, according to diplomats. Harper also spoke about how war, international organised crime, poverty and underdevelopment were all enemies of the G-8's goals to not only ensure prosperity, but to build a better world. He both lauded the G-8 countries for their efforts in Afghanistan and urged the Afghan government to assume more responsibility for its own security. Those urgings came after Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon repeated that Canada will end its combat role in Afghanistan after 2011. US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said earlier that the United States would like to see Canadian troops stay longer than the date set by the Canadian Parliament, to help train the Afghan army. The tone appeared cordial as the G-8 ministers gathered for the family photo against a backdrop of rural Quebec province. Following the photo opportunity, foreign ministers were directed to a trough of ice with maple syrup for a mid-morning sugar treat. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1427EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Russia Blasts Wrap Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Russia Blasts Wrap- WRAP Memorial, morgue, Medvedev, Putin, US Ambo, analyst LENGTH: 04:06 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Rus/Eng/Nats SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 641576 DATELINE: Moscow, 30 March 2010 LENGTH: 04:06 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST (FIRST RUN 1430 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 30 MARCH 2010) 1. People paying their respects at makeshift memorial inside Lubyanka station 2. Close up of flowers 3. Wide of U.S. Ambassador to Russia, John Beyrle, paying tribute to victims 4. SOUNDBITE (Russian) John Beyrle, U.S. Ambassador to Russia: "I came here to express my condolences to the relatives of all the victims of yesterday's horrendous terrorist attack. As the US Ambassador I would like to say with all my heart that the American people stands together at this moment with the people of Russia." 5. Zoom in on people and makeshift memorial, screen reading: (Russian) "Moscow is grieving" 6. Mid of men waiting for train 7. Pan of train arriving 8. Wide of people in station, including off-duty Russian army cadets (FIRST RUN 1430 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 30 MARCH 2010) 9. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev sitting down at meeting with Russia's top law enforcement officials 10. Cutaway of officials 11. Wide of meeting 12. Cutaway of officials 13. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) Dmitry Medvedev, Russian President: "I think that we could also pay some attention to perfecting aspects of legislation aimed at preventing terrorist attacks, including the precise nature of the work of the various agencies that work on investigating crimes of this type." 14. Mid of meeting 15. Cutaway of Prosecutor General, Yuri Chaika (left), and Chairman of the Russian Supreme Court, Vyacheslav Lebedev (right) 16. SOUNDBITE: (Russian) Vladimir Putin, Russia Prime Minister: "We know that they are keeping a low profile now. But this is a matter of honour for the law enforcement agencies to drag them out from the depths of the sewer into the daylight. I am sure this will be done." 17. Mid of meeting (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 30 MARCH 2010) 18. Wide shot of Morgue Number 2 of the Moscow Bureau of Forensic Medicine 19. Close up of windows 20. Wide of entrance 21. Close up sign reading in Russian: "Bureau of Forensic Medicine" 22. Wide of relatives of victims walking in the street 23. SOUNDBITE (Russian) Valentina Yegeazaryan, grandmother of victim of metro bombings: "I cannot get my child back. There have been so many terrorist attacks and yet what what have they (the authorities) done? Some time passes, and then the same thing happens again." 24. Mid of relatives talking 25. Close up of Valentina Yegeazaryan, grandmother of victim, crying 26. Wide of relatives leaving 27. Wide of relatives of victims in the yard of the morgue 28. Mid of man grieving 29. Wide of morgue building (FIRST RUN 1430 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 30 MARCH 2010) 30. Mid of newspaper 31. Close up of newspaper photo with headline written in Russian "Revenge for the Caucasus" 32. SOUNDBITE (English) Maria Lipman, Political Analyst of Carnegie Centre in Moscow: "This policy of negligence, this policy of looking the other way at embezzlement, at corruption, at common crime, at all sorts of problems that only accumulated and grew in those regions, radical Islam is being one of them, this policy is no longer working. Neglect shown with regard to those regions has now backfired." 33. Set up of Maria Lipman, Political Analyst at Carnegie Centre in Moscow STORYLINE: Russians and other officials gathered on Tuesday to pay their respects at one of the stations hit in yesterday's suicide bombings in Moscow's metro system. Mourners, including US ambassador to Russia, John Beyrle, left flowers at a makeshift memorial in the Lubyanka metro station. "As the US Ambassador I would like to say with all my heart that the American people stands together at this moment with the people of Russia," Beyrle said. The blasts, which killed 39, shocked a country that had grown accustomed to such violence being confined to a restive southern corner - and marked the return of acts of terror to the everyday lives of Muscovites after a six-year break. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin vowed to "drag out from the depths of the sewer" the masterminds of the attacks. "We know that they are keeping a low profile now. But this is a matter of honour for the law enforcement agencies to drag them out from the depths of the sewer into the daylight. I am sure this will be done," he said. At a meeting of top law enforcement officials Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said that work needed to be done on "perfecting aspects of legislation aimed at preventing terrorist attacks." As senior politicians called for the return of the death penalty, the attacks have raised fears that civil liberties may again be sacrificed under the pretext of fighting extremism - a charge Putin faced during his eight-year presidency. As president, Putin consolidated control in the wake of the 2004 Beslan school hostage crisis by abolishing the election of regional governors, and came to power in 1999 promising a strong crackdown on rebels in Russia's North Caucasus. The attacks provide a serious challenge to the Russian government, and in particular its claims to have pacified the region. Political analysts say that Russia's history of human rights abuses and its overall neglect of the region have led to increasing instability. "This policy of negligence, this policy of looking the other way at embezzlement, at corruption, at common crime at all sorts of problems that only accumulated and grew in those regions, radical Islam is being one of them, this policy is no longer working," said Maria Lipman, a political analyst at the Carnegie Centre in Moscow. Many have speculated that the blasts - blamed on Muslim extremists in the Caucasus region, which includes Chechnya - were retaliation for the recent killing of separatist leaders in the area by Russian police. No claims of responsibility have been made. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1428EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Afghan US Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Afghan US- REPLAY Chairman of US Joint Chiefs tours Marjah after US operation LENGTH: 01:35 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 641548 DATELINE: Marjah - 30 March 2010 LENGTH: 01:35 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY ++AUDIO AS INCOMING++ SHOTLIST 1. Wide of American soldiers walking in front of US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Navy Admiral Mike Mullen, as he walks around Marjah 2. Wide of local Afghans looking on 3. Wide of Mullen walking along road 4. Mullen shaking hands with locals 5. SOUNDBITE: (English) Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff: "This is my third trip to Helmand in the last several months, and certainly the change which has occurred in Marjah is critical, and what I wanted to see more than anything else was not just better security, but what are we putting in place for the people, how are we going to make the people's lives better, how is the connection between the provincial governor, the local leaders, as well as Kabul." 6. Wide of troops and armoured vehicle in road 7. SOUNDBITE: (English) Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff: "An exceptional operation. There were many Afghan leaders involved in it from the military standpoint, from the army standpoint. The Afghan National police are here now and it was a joint, partnered operation and it was, more than anything else, it was focused on the security for the people, and while there were tragically some lost, that focus is really what won out so that we could provide the security." 8. Wide of Mullen walking with Helmand Governor Gulab Mangal 9. Wide of Mangal seated next to Mullen on ground in circle talking to local leaders 10. Wide of Mullen talking to locals through interpreter 11. Interpreter talking between Mullen and local elders 12. Local elders listening to Mullen STORYLINE US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Navy Admiral Mike Mullen, toured the Afghan town of Marjah on Tuesday, his first such visit following the joint Afghan-NATO offensive in the area. Mullen met the governor of Helmand province, Gulab Mangal, and other local elders to discuss the security situation. Mullen described the change in Marjah after the offensive as "critical." "What I wanted to see more than anything else was not just better security, but what are we putting in place for the people," he said. In last month's operation, Afghan and NATO troops stormed Marjah with the aim of purging Taliban forces from their southern stronghold. Afghan national police are now handling security in the area and the operation has, for the most part, been claimed as a success by American officials. Mullen's visit to Helmand came two days after US President Barack Obama made his first visit to the country since taking office. He held talks with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and addressed US troops at Bagram air base near Kabul. The next big military operation for the US and NATO troops is planned for June in Kandahar, a much larger city and the spiritual home of the Taliban. US officials previously have disclosed plans for a NATO-led offensive in the area this year but have not said when it might happen. The two-month offensive will be a major test of Obama's new strategy in Afghanistan and a bellwether of the war in general. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 03-30-10 1428EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Pakistan Diplomat Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Pakistan Diplomat- REPLAY Iranian agents free diplomat kidnapped in Pakistan LENGTH: 02:27 FIRST RUN: 1330 RESTRICTIONS: Pt No Iran/No BBC Persian TV/No VOA Persian TV TYPE: Farsi/Natsound SOURCE: VARIOUS STORY NUMBER: 641550 DATELINE: Islamabad/Peshawar - 30 Mar 2010/FILE LENGTH: 02:27 IRANIAN GOVERNMENT HANDOUT - NO ACCESS IRAN/BBC PERSIAN/VOA PERSIAN ++AP Television is adhering to Iranian law that stipulates all media are banned from providing BBC Persian or VOA Persian any coverage from Iran, and under this law if any media violate this ban the Iranian authorities can immediately shut down that organisation in Tehran.++ AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST IRANIAN GOVERNMENT HANDOUT -- NO ACCESS IRAN/BBC PERSIAN/VOA PERSIAN FILE: Date and Location Unknown 1. STILL of kidnapped Iranian diplomat, Heshmatollah Attarzadeh, as shown on website of Iranian Embassy in Islamabad AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Islamabad - 30 March 2010 2. Various screen shots from website for Iranian Embassy in Islamabad, including page about Attarzadeh and his rescue from Pakistan AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Taftan border crossing - Date Unknown 3. Mid of border crossing on the Pakistan-Iran border, sign reading: (English) "Welcome to Islamic Republic of Iran" 4. Mid of border crossing 5. Various wide shots of security fences in border area 6. Mid of gate at border crossing AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Peshawar - 30 March 2010 7. Wide exterior of Iranian Consulate General building 8. Close of sign reading: (Urdu/English) "Consulate General of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Peshawar" 9. Mid of Iranian flag flying outside 10. Close of photo of Attarzadeh 11. Security officers searching visitors to consulate building AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Peshawar - 13 November 2008 12. Mid of body of security guard killed during Attarzadeh's kidnapping, covered with white sheet, being put into ambulance 13. Various of diplomat's car, damaged during kidnapping AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Islamabad - 30 March 2010 14. Pan of Fariborz Shokoohi, community leader for Iranians living in Islamabad, with his family 15. Mid of Shokoohi 16. SOUNDBITE (Farsi) Fariborz Shokoohi, Community leader for Iranians living in Islamabad: "As human beings, we are very happy that an Iranian national has been freed. Our group stands against terrorist activities. We are against kidnapping and terrorism. We don't support it." 17. Mid of children playing 18. Wide of street STORYLINE Iranian intelligence agents mounted a "complicated" cross-border mission and freed an Iranian diplomat who had been kidnapped in 2008 by gunmen in northwestern Pakistan, Iranian state television reported on Tuesday. The agents rescued Heshmatollah Attarzadeh of Iran's Peshawar consulate "in a complicated intelligence operation" and took him back to Iran, the report said. Iran's Intelligence Minister Heidar Moslehi said that Iran had asked Pakistani authorities to free the diplomat, but after they failed to do the job, Tehran had handled the problem itself. A senior Pakistani security official, however, maintained that Pakistani intelligence did in fact help in the rescue operation. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue, did not provide any further details. Attarzadeh and his Pakistani bodyguard were driving over a narrow bridge in Peshawar on November 13, 2008, when two gunmen blocked their way with a car and opened fire. The attackers fled with the diplomat after killing the bodyguard. Peshawar is the capital of Pakistan's North West Frontier Province, and borders the largely autonomous tribal regions, parts of which have become strongholds for Taliban and al-Qaida militants who have staged repeated attacks on the city. In the 1980s, Peshawar was a hub for US-backed guerrillas fighting Soviet troops in neighbouring Afghanistan, some of whom went on to form the Taliban and al-Qaida. Al-Qaida leader, Osama bin Laden, now believed to be hiding in the adjacent tribal regions, was among them. Despite that legacy, the city of some two (m) million people was once considered relatively safe for foreigners. But organised crime and militancy are on the rise - and increasingly hard to distinguish - and it was possible that the Iranian was kidnapped for ransom. A year after Attarzadeh was kidnapped, a Pakistani employee of the same Iranian consulate was gunned down near his home. Tuesday's operation marks the latest success by Iran's intelligence services to be announced on television. Last month, Iran captured Abdulmalik Rigi, leader of an armed Sunni opposition group whose insurgency in southeast Iran had destabilised the border region with Pakistan. Rigi was arrested on a flight from Dubai to Kyrgyzstan last month after he had left Pakistan. The Pakistani government claimed that Rigi's capture would have not been possible without Islamabad's cooperation, but Iran insisted that its intelligence agents alone captured the militant leader. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1428EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Mideast Land Day Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Mideast Land Day- REPLAY Land Day events, Fayyad, Palestinian rallies LENGTH: 03:33 FIRST RUN: 1130 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 641529 DATELINE: Various - 30 March 2010 LENGTH: 03:33 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST East of Gaza City, close to Israeli border, Gaza Strip 1. Wide of protesters marching towards border with Israel 2. Palestinian protestors carrying signs against Israeli settlements and the Israeli "separation barrier" 3. Palestinian women demonstrating, holding signs 4. Wide of Palestinian protestors burning tyres next to border fence 5. Smoke rising, Israeli army jeep on border 6. Protestors waving Palestinian flags 7. Wide of Israeli tank driving on other side of border Khan Younis, Gaza Strip 8. Ambulance parked outside hospital accident and emergency department 9. Injured Palestinian man on trolley being wheeled along hospital corridor 10. Close-up of injured man, pan as he is wheeled into ward 11. Injured man in bed with man standing next to him holding drip 12. Wide of crowd around hospital bed 13. Another injured man being treated Karawa Beni Hassan village, West Bank 14. Wide of group of Palestinian protesters walking up hill 15. Wide of Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad with horse drawn plough, symbolically ploughing up land at site disputed by Palestinians and Jewish settlers 16. SOUNDBITE (English) Salam Fayyad, Palestinian Prime Minister: "Today is the 34th anniversary of the Land Day, a day of great significance to us Palestinians throughout the world and especially here, as we endeavour to saveguard and protect our right to life on our land. I thought this would be an important location to be in here, given that it is a remote, it is, as you can see, targeted by settlers who live nearby, they started to frequent the place and our people actually, naturally and spontaneously, started to flock to this place and to fix it up and actually to begin to plant it, which is really the best way to protect the land." Qalqilya, West Bank 17. Wide of protesters marching with flags and banners to mark Land Day 18. Group of protesters close to security barrier 19. Protestor standing next to Israeli army officer next to gate in security barrier 20. Palestinian protestors throwing stones 21. Israeli army jeep at scene 22. Palestinian protestors throwing stones 23. Various of tear gas being fired at protestors Ramallah, West Bank 24. Wide of protesters marching into main square 25. Various of protestors in square holding signs and flags STORYLINE Palestinians were taking part in protest marches and other events across the Gaza Strip and West Bank on Tuesday to mark "Land Day" - an annual day of protests against Israeli incursions into Palestinian territory. Hundreds of protesters marched from Gaza City to the border with Israel, where they burned tyres and waved Palestinian flags at Israeli tanks passing by on the other side of the fence. Three protesters were injured at another Land Day protest south of Gaza City and were taken for treatment to a hospital in Khan Younis. In the West Bank, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad joined local Palestinian residents to symbolically plough up a piece of land that is claimed by both Palestinians and Jewish settlers. Fayyad ploughed a strip of the field using a traditional horse-drawn plough, as residents of the village of Karawa Beni Hassan looked on. Land Day is "a day of great significance to us Palestinians throughout the world and especially here, as we endeavour to saveguard and protect our right to life on our land," Fayyad said. He claimed the piece of land had been "targeted by settlers who live nearby" and said local Palestinians had chosen to plough the land to "protect" it. Protest marches were also held in the West Bank town of Qalqilya and in Ramallah. Palestinians are angry that Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as the route of Israel's so-called "separation barrier", are encroaching on Palestinian territory. Tensions between Israel and the Palestinians have increased following a recent Israeli government announcement of plans to build 1,600 new homes for Jewish people in east Jerusalem, which the Palestinians want as a capital of a future state. Israel captured east Jerusalem from Jordan in 1967 and later annexed it, a move that was never recognised as legitimate by the international community. The international community considers the Jewish neighbourhoods in east Jerusalem to be illegal settlements, no different from the more than 120 Jewish settlements that dot the West Bank. The US has criticised Israeli construction in east Jerusalem and has asked Israel for gestures towards the Palestinians to help relaunch peace talks, which were about to start earlier this month when the latest spat over settlements broke out. The planned negotiations were thrown into doubt after Israel announced the construction plans. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has consistently rejected calls for any halt to building in Jerusalem. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1428EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++US Fairground Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:++US Fairground- NEW 2 stranded in the air on stalled Miami fair ride LENGTH: 01:15 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: No Access NAmerica/Internet TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: ABC STORY NUMBER: 641586 DATELINE: Miami, 30 March 2010 LENGTH: 01:15 ABC - NO ACCESS NAMERICA/INTERNET SHOTLIST 1. Wide of stalled carnival ride at Miami-Dade County Fair, zoom in of two people stuck on ride, dangling sideways in the air 2. Various of people stuck on ride 3. Wide of ride; fire truck driving towards ride 4. Rescue workers on cherry picker truck moving towards stranded ride passengers, pan to people stuck on ride STORYLINE Two people were stranded high in the air aboard a stalled carnival ride in Miami, in the US state of Florida on Tuesday as a rescue team rushed to get them down. A fire department spokeswoman said a call came in at 1:54 p.m. (1745GMT) on Tuesday to report the stalled ride - called the Spin Rider - at the Miami-Dade County Fair. Footage filmed from a helicopter hovering over the scene showed the seemingly calm riders strapped into their seats on an arm of the ride which was stuck vertically up into the air, with their feet dangling above the fairground. Rescue workers climbed into a cherry picker and approached the ride. The ride eventually - almost 50 minutes after it had initially stalled - began moving slowly towards the ground before the pair were able to get off. The Spin Rider stalled about two hours after the fair had opened for the day. The fair began on Thursday and lasts until April 11. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1539EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: SKorea President Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:SKorea President- REPLAY President visits scene of sinking LENGTH: 02:03 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Korean/Nat SOURCE: South Korean Presidential Office STORY NUMBER: 641549 DATELINE: West Sea, 30 March 2010 LENGTH: 02:03 South Korean Presidential Office - AP Clients Only SHOTLIST 1. South Korean President Lee Myung-bak coming out of helicopter 2. Lee shaking hands with navy officials onboard ship 3. Pan from sea to Lee and navy official 4. Close of Lee 5. Lee shaking hands with navy crew 6. Close of map 7. Various of Lee in meeting with navy officials 8. SOUNDBITE: (Korean) Lee Myung-bak, South Korean President: ++addressing naval officials++ "Opening the sunken ship's door and confirming whether the crews are alive or not should be the first priority. You have to do that as soon as possible, consult with the US side, and do your best in saving people's lives." 9. Lee boarding boat en route to another ship to meet victims' families 10. Various shots of Lee meeting family members of victims, on another ship 11. Pan of military briefing 12. Mid of Lee being briefed 13. Official holding briefing 14. SOUNDBITE: (Korean) Lee Myung-bak, South Korean President: "We cannot lower our tight guard until North Korea gives up its nuclear power through the six-party talks. We can defend ourselves as long as we are strong." 15. Lee shaking hands with navy officials STORYLINE South Korea's president ordered the military to be alert on Tuesday for any moves by rival North Korea, after his defence minister said last week's explosion that sank a South Korean ship may have been caused by a North Korean mine. The blast ripped the 1,200-ton ship apart last Friday night during a routine patrol near Baengnyeong Island near the tense maritime border west of the divided Korean peninsula. Fifty-eight crew members, including the captain, were plucked to safety; 46 were still missing on Tuesday, with little hope remaining for their survival. President Lee Myung-bak flew to the wreckage site on Tuesday to review search operations, meet marines and console family members. Baengnyeong is just eight miles (13 kilometres) from, and within sight of, a North Korean military base where surface-to-ship guided missiles and artillery are heavily deployed, the presidential Blue House said in a statement. Lee told officers South Korea must maintain its military readiness until North Korea gave up its nuclear weapons program. "We cannot lower our tight guard until North Korea gives up its nuclear power through the six-party talks. We can defend ourselves as long as we are strong," Lee said. A 53-year-old diver who lost consciousness during the underwater mission to locate the missing crewmen died on Tuesday, the Joint Chiefs of Staff said. A second diver was being treated for injuries, officials said. Lee expressed his condolences over the death, calling it "unfortunate and regrettable," according to his office. As the search continued, divers attempted on Tuesday to break into the ship but made little headway due to strong currents and poor underwater visibility, according to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said there were no signs of life inside. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1428EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: China Babies Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:China Babies- REPLAY Two mortuary workers detained after 21 babies' bodies found in river LENGTH: 00:58 FIRST RUN: 1330 RESTRICTIONS: No Access China TYPE: Mandarin/Nat SOURCE: IQILU.COM STORY NUMBER: 641556 DATELINE: Jining, 29 March 2010 LENGTH: 00:58 IQILU.COM - NO ACCESS CHINA ++QUALITY AS INCOMING+++ SHOTLIST: Outskirts of Jining, Shandong province - 29 March 2010 1. Wide of bridge spanning the Guangfu River 2. Close of reeds on river 3. Wide pan of people searching along river 4. Wide of bodies discovered along river 5. Mid of reeds 6. Zoom in on body of baby on riverbank 7. SOUNDBITE: (Mandarin) vox pop, local resident, name unknown: "I thought it was artificial and then I found it was real. When I walked further, I found more bodies." 8. Mid of villagers looking along river 9. SOUNDBITE: (Mandarin) vox pop, local resident, name unknown: "Yesterday a fisherman said there were two babies' bodies on the other side of the bank, and two in the reed marshes. There were four bodies." 10. Wide of river, fishermen in boat 11. Tilt up of riverbank to bridge 12. Close of baby's foot with hospital tag visible reading: "Baby's mother's name: (left blank)", Weight: (left blank), Height (left blank)" 13. Wide of traffic on bridge, pan to people searching alongside river 14. Mid of man digging 15. Mid of second man digging 16. Wide of people looking from bridge STORYLINE: Two mortuary workers have been detained in China after 21 babies' bodies were found floating in a river. The bodies were discovered washed ashore along a river in east China, and authorities suspected they were dumped there as "medical waste" by local hospitals, state media reported on Tuesday. An initial investigation showed that eight of the 21 babies wore identification tags on their feet tracing them back to a hospital in nearby Jining in Shandong province, according to the People's Daily Web site. The other 13 were unidentified. State media reported that three of the eight had originally been admitted to the hospital in a critical condition, but did not say when they were admitted. The reports did not give the number of girls or boys. Xinhua said the bodies of the 21 babies were cremated, though it was not clear whether they had all been identified. Hospital mortuary workers Zhu Zhenyu and Wang Zhijun were sacked and taken away by police, Xinhua said, citing Jining government spokesman Gong Zhenhua. The babies' families had paid the pair to dispose of the bodies, but they instead dumped them at the river. It was not clear whether Zhu and Wang dumped the bodies directly in the river or if they made an attempt to bury them. Three top hospital officials were sacked or suspended and the government ordered the Jining Municipal Health Bureau to make a public apology, Xinhua said. Video footage posted on the Web site of the Shandong Broadcasting Company, IQILU.com, showed the bodies of babies lying on the shore. The report said some babies were wrapped in plastic bags, at least one of which had "medical waste" written on it. One local resident said he thought the first body he came across was a toy, but then he spotted several others. "When I walked further, I found more bodies," he said. Some of dead babies shown in the video, ranging from newborns to several months old, wore hospital identification tags. People's Daily said all the bodies were babies, while the official Xinhua News Agency said several were foetuses. Zhong Haitao, a spokesman at the Jining Health Bureau, told Xinhua the bodies were recovered by local residents and firefighters on Monday after they were discovered under a bridge spanning the Guangfu River on the outskirts of Jining. Xinhua said the river is not one of the city's drinking water sources. An official from the information office of China's Health Ministry said she was not aware of the case, while telephone calls to the Jining Health Bureau and the Shandong Health Bureau rang unanswered Tuesday. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1435EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Argentina Maradona Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Argentina Maradona- REPLAY Argentina coach Maradona bitten on lip by dog LENGTH: 01:49 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: Part No Access Brazil TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/TV GLOBO STORY NUMBER: 641571 DATELINE: Buenos Aires - 30 March 2010/FILE LENGTH: 01:49 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY TV GLOBO - NO ACCESS BRAZIL SHOTLIST AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Buenos Aires, Argentina - 30 March 2010 1. Various of exterior of hospital where Argentina coach Diego Maradona is being treated for dog bite, media AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Caracas, Venezuela - 28 January 2009 2. Maradona on football pitch showing off his skills with a football 3. Wide of Maradona embracing a boy, zoom in 4. Maradona kicking ball TV GLOBO - NO ACCESS BRAZIL FILE: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - 22 December 2005 5. Various of Maradona entering field surrounded by body guards 6. Wide of Brazilian player Artur Antunes Coimbra Zico running to rescue Maradona from the media 7. Various of Maradona greeting other players 8. Maradona kneeling down and hugging Brazilian player Renato Gaucho 9. Various of Maradona playing 10. Maradona asking to be replaced FILE: Buenos Aires, Argentina - November 2006 11. Various of Maradona unveiling statue of himself STORYLINE Argentina football coach Diego Maradona underwent minor facial surgery on Tuesday after he was bitten by one of his pet dogs. The Argentine television station TN said Maradona had reconstructive surgery to repair an injury to his upper lip after he was bitten. He was expected to be discharged later on Tuesday from a clinic in the capital Buenos Aires. An official at Los Arcos clinic, who declined to be identified, said Maradona was in no danger and in good condition. Clinic officials said a news conference would be held later in the day. Argentine news reports said Maradona was playing with his Shar Pei when it bit him at his home in the Buenos Aries suburb of Ezeiza. Shar Pei are often used as a guard dog, though they are known to adjust well to family situations. Maradona, who led Argentina to the 1986 World Cup, will coach the Gauchos in the World Cup in South Africa. The team plays Canada on May 24 in Buenos Aries before leaving for its training headquarters in South Africa. Regarded as one of the world's greatest players, Maradona is revered in Argentina despite problems with drug addiction, scandals and lately the poor play of the team, which struggled to qualify for the World Cup despite some of the world's top players including Barcelona star Lionel Messi. Argentina plays in Group B in South Africa with Nigeria, Greece and South Korea. 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APTN APEX 03-30-10 1509EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Switz Cern 2 Tuesday, 30 March 2010 STORY:Switz Cern 2- WRAP Atom smasher sets collision record, collider LENGTH: 02:17 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: CERN VNR STORY NUMBER: 641572 DATELINE: Geneva - 30 March 2010/FILE LENGTH: 02:17 CERN VNR - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 30 March 2010) FILE: Date and Location Unknown 1. Various of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) as it was being built (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 30 March 2010) Geneva - 30 March 2010 2. Various of scientists and researchers in LHC control room waiting for experiment to start 3. Mid of screen showing illustration of beam collision 4. Set up shot of Mike Lamont, LHC Machine Coordinator, in control room 5. SOUNDBITE (English) Mike Lamont, LHC (Large Hadron Collider) Machine Coordinator: "We've got both beams up at 3.5TeV (teraelectronvolt) and we've brought them into collision in each of the four experiments. So there's events happening now inside the experiments, and the next stage is... what we're doing now is bringing in the collimators, these blocks that come in very close to the beam and act to protect the experiments if anything goes wrong. So having done that, once they're in place, this will take us two or three minutes, we can go into stable beams and then the experiments can switch on the detectors fully and start taking data." 6. Various of people celebrating and applauding the moment of successful collision ++AUDIO AS INCOMING++ 7. SOUNDBITE (English) Guido Tonelli, CMS (Compact Muon Solenoid) Spokesman: "We are just at the beginning. Clearly we have to do a lot of work, we have to understand our detector, to understand physics in this new region of energy. But if we are lucky, within a few months we will be really able to start a major adventure in modern physics." 8. Top shot pan of LHC control room STORYLINE The world's largest atom smasher set a record for high-energy collisions on Tuesday by crashing proton beams into each other at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone in the 10 (b) billion US dollar Large Hadron Collider (LHC)'s ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and micro-forces, scientists at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of seven (t) trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometre) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. In a control room, scientists erupted into spontaneous applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. "Clearly we have to do a lot of work, we have to understand our detector, to understand physics in this new region of energy. But if we are lucky, within a few months we will be really able to start a major adventure in modern physics," said Guido Tonelli, a spokesman for the CMS (Compact Muon Solenoid) detector at the LHC. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, scientists hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorise was the creation of the universe some 14 (b) billion years ago. The extra energy is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorise gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant that the protons had to be "dumped" from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on September 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 metres) below the ground. It cost 40 (m) million US dollars to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator - the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest known place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles. When collisions become routine, the beams will be packed with hundreds of (b) billions of protons, but the particles are so tiny that few will collide at each crossing. The experiments will come over the objections of some people who fear they could eventually imperil Earth by creating micro black holes - subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars. CERN and many scientists dismiss any threat to Earth or people on it, saying that any such holes would be so weak that they would vanish almost instantly without causing any damage. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 03-30-10 1509EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM -------------------

AP-APTN-1830 North America Prime News -Final Monday, 3 May 2010 North America Prime News UN Nuclear 02:46 AP Clients Only REPLAY Sec-Gen opening comments, Iranian President Ahmedinejad US Merger 02:25 AP Clients Only REPLAY United Airlines and Continental announce merger Iraq Recount 4 03:37 AP Clients Only WRAP Vote recount, oil minister, UN rep sbites; Talabani, al-Maliki China Kim 01:16 See Script REPLAY Stills of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il in China; Video ++US Oil Spill 3 02:35 AP Clients Only NEW Latest on efforts to stop oil spewing into sea; dead turtles Greece Crisis 5 03:34 AP Clients Only WRAP Protests against govt; Papandreu, Tsipras; military protest Europe Press Freedom 03:04 Part No Access Kosovo REPLAY Memorial unveiled in Kosovo, protest in Paris on World Press Freedom day France Polanski 2 01:16 AP Clients Only REPLAY Polanski says US wants to serve him 'on a platter to media'; file FILE Redgrave 02:07 See Script REPLAY Actress Lynn Redgrave has died, her children have announced B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 1830 GMT. APEX 05-03-10 1456EDT -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-1830: UN Nuclear Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:UN Nuclear- REPLAY Sec-Gen opening comments, Iranian President Ahmedinejad LENGTH: 02:46 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Farsi/Natsound SOURCE: UNTV STORY NUMBER: 644574 DATELINE: New York, 3 May 2010 LENGTH: 02:46 UNTV - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: 1. Wide of United Nations Secretary-General at podium 2. SOUNDBITE: (English) Ban Ki-moon, United Nations Secretary-General: (++PARTLY OVERLAID WITH MID OF IRANIAN PRESIDENT MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD++) "With respect to the Iranian nuclear programme, I call on Iran to fully comply with the Security Council resolutions and fully cooperate with the IAEA. I encourage Iran to accept the nuclear fuel supply proposal put forward by the agency. This would be an important confidence building measure." 3. Mid of Iranian delegation 4. SOUNDBITE: (English) Ban Ki-moon, United Nations Secretary-General: "There is also a need to ensure that the right to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes does not have unintended consequences. It should be unacceptable for countries to use the treaty as a cover to develop nuclear weapons, only to withdraw afterwards." 5. Wide of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at podium 6. Iranian delegation 7. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian President: "To start I would like to say a word about the statements by the Secretary-General. The Secretary-General said that Iran must accept the fuel exchange and that the ball is now in Iran's court. Well, I would like to tell you and inform him as well that we have accepted that from the start and I would like to announce once again that to us that is an accepted deal. Therefore we have now thrown the ball in the court of those who should accept our proposal and embark on cooperation with us." 8. United States delegation 9. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian President: ++PARTLY OVERLAID WITH MID OF RUSSIAN DELEGATION++ "The nuclear bomb is a fire against humanity rather than a weapon for defence. The possesion of nuclear bombs is not a source of pride. Its possesion is disgusting and shameful. Even more shameful is the threat to use such weapons, which if used have a scale of destruction that is incomparable to any crime committed throughout history." 10. Close-up of UK delegation walking out on Ahmadinejad speech 11. Close-up of United States delegation walking out on Ahmadinejad speech 12. Close-up of empty France delegation chair STORYLINE: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday rejected allegations his country is developing nuclear weapons, saying there was no credible proof to that effect. In the first day of a monthlong conference reviewing the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), the Iranian leader dismissed allegations that his country's uranium enrichment programme is designed to produce a bomb, prompting the US and other nations to call for sanctions. He referred to the new US Nuclear Posture Review's provision retaining an option to use US atomic arms against countries not in compliance with the non-proliferation pact, a charge Washington lays against Iran. As the Iranian president spoke, the US delegation, of working-level staff, walked out of the General Assembly hall. Ahmadinejad is the only head of state participating in the conference. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, opening the conference, directly challenged Tehran. "I encourage Iran to accept the nuclear fuel supply proposal put forward by the agency, this would be an important confidence building measure," he said, He called on the Tehran government "to fully comply with Security Council resolutions" demanding that it halt enrichment, which Washington and others contend is meant to produce the nuclear fuel for bombs in violation of Iran's NPT obligations. Ahmadinejad later bandied the demands of the Secretary-General by saying Iran had already agreed to the fuel programme. "I would like to tell you and inform him as well that we have accepted that from the start and I would like to announce once again that to us that is an accepted deal. Therefore we have now thrown the ball in the court of those who should accept our proposal and embark on cooperation with us," he said. Although Ahmadinejad's presence meant the first-day agenda was dominated by the Iran issue, it was only the beginning of a four-week diplomatic marathon meant to produce a consensus final document pointing toward ways to better achieve the NPT's goals of checking the spread of nuclear weapons, while working toward reducing and eventually eliminating them. The treaty is regarded as the world's single most important pact on nuclear arms, credited with preventing their proliferation to dozens of nations since it entered into force in 1970. It was a grand global bargain: Nations without nuclear weapons committed not to acquire them; those with them committed to move toward their elimination; and all endorsed everyone's right to develop peaceful nuclear energy. The 189 treaty members gather every five years to discuss new approaches to problems, by agreeing, for example, that the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN nuclear inspection agency, should be strengthened. 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APTN APEX 05-03-10 1429EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: US Merger Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:US Merger- REPLAY United Airlines and Continental announce merger LENGTH: 02:25 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 644573 DATELINE: Various, 3 May 2010/File LENGTH: 02:25 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: FILE - date and location unknown 1. Mid of plane landing 2. Mid of United plane 3. Mid of Continental planes 4. Continental aircraft New York City - 3 May, 2010 5. Wide of United and Continental press conference 6. SOUNDBITE (English) Glenn Tilton, United Airlines CEO: "We have more opportunity together however than either one of us, as Jeff just said a moment ago, could realise independent of each other. As he said, this company is going to be able to serve our shareholders, our stakeholders, and our employees in ways that frankly neither Continental nor United could do if we weren't about to embark on this journey. But today the companies are ready for that journey." 7.Mid of photographers 8. SOUNDBITE (English) Jeff Smisek, Continental CEO: "The synergies that we have projected for the combined company have no airfare increases whatsoever in those synergies. We do not set prices. We didn't set prices in the market before this transaction. We won't set prices in the market after this transaction. We respond to customer demand. This is a brutally competitive industry. What we are doing today is making ourselves more competitive on a global scale." San Francisco, California - 30 April, 2010 9. Mid of man at a United ticket counter 10. Wide of United check-in 11. SOUNDBITE (English) Jim Goetz, Continental Passenger: "Well I hope bigger means better. I always felt that travellers with the airlines, I always felt like a second-class citizen. So if this merger is going to take place I hope it becomes more friendly for the passengers." 12. Tight of Continental Airlines sign 13. Mid of people at Continental check-in 14. SOUNDBITE (English) Jeff Fox, Continental Passenger: "Ultimately I make my decisions about who to fly with, about price. It is not so much to do with the name, but I'm hoping that this kind of thing actually will be cost saving in general and maybe result in lower prices actually." 15. Mid of people at Continental counter 16. Mid of United sign STORYLINE: United Airlines has agreed to buy Continental in a three (b) billion-plus dollar deal that would create the world's largest carrier. The new United would surpass Delta Air Lines in size, which should help it attract more high-fare business travellers. It will fly to 370 destinations in 59 countries. The companies insisted the deal is a merger of equals. But United shareholders will hold a majority stake, the airline will be based in United's hometown of Chicago and it will be called United. It would be run by current Continental CEO Jeffery Smisek, however. United CEO Glenn Tilton, a longtime advocate of consolidation in the airline industry, will be non-executive chairman for up to two years before Smisek adds the chairman title. The new parent company will be called United Continental Holdings Inc. and have about 29 (b) billion dollars in annual revenue based on 2009 results and 7.4 (b) billion dollars in unrestricted cash. The airlines said combining would save them one (b) billion dollars to 1.2 (b) billion dollars a year by 2013, including between 800 (m) million dollars and 900 (m) million dollars in new yearly revenue. The deal would create a giant with major hubs in key domestic markets including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and San Francisco and an international network stretching from Shanghai to South America. It will leave three big US airlines with major international routes - the new United, Delta and American Airlines, with US Airways a distant fourth. United is the third-largest US carrier by traffic, while Continental Airlines is No. 4. Shares of both companies rose in morning trading Monday. United parent UAL Corp. shares rose 39 cents, or 1.8 percent, to $21.99, while Continental shares rose 25 cents, or 1.1 percent, to 22.60 dollars. Wall Street has pushed consolidation as a way to let airlines raise fares by reducing the number of flights and seats. Antitrust regulators are likely to scrutinise the deal for its effect on fares, but Smisek and Tilton said even a larger United won't have power to boost prices because other carriers might undercut them. "The synergies that we have projected for the combined company have no airfare increases whatsoever," Smisek said. Two years ago, Continental walked away from a deal with United at the last moment. Smisek said in an interview that times had changed since 2008, when both airlines were low on cash and facing record fuel costs. Continental shareholders will get 1.05 UAL shares in exchange for each Continental share. The two carriers are similar in size. As of Friday's closing stock prices, UAL's had a stock market value of 3.6 (b) billion dollars, while Continental's was 3.1 (b) billion dollars. The companies expect to close the deal in the fourth quarter, with approval needed from shareholders and regulators. The deal came together in just three weeks after reports surfaced that United was in discussions with US Airways, the nation's No. 6 airline. Labour issues have often been messy in airline consolidation. Smisek and Tilton said they had briefed their unions on the deal. Both companies said their boards had approved the transaction unanimously, which would include a labour representative on the UAL board. Pilots at both airlines are represented by the Air Line Pilots Association. People briefed on the negotiations said the two groups have not started negotiations on a joint contract. The machinists' union, which represents 16,000 workers at United and more than 10,000 Continental employees, said it was concerned about the impact of the deal on pensions, benefits and job security. Both United and Continental have been losing money first due to higher fuel costs, then a recession. Last year, UAL lost 651 (m) million US dollars, while Continental lost 282 (m) million. Revenue plunged 19.1 percent at UAL and 17.4 percent at Continental. They have eliminated flights to meet the new, lower demand - United cut capacity 7.4 percent last year, and Continental shrank 5.2 percent. 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APTN APEX 05-03-10 1430EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Iraq Recount 4 Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:Iraq Recount 4- WRAP Vote recount, oil minister, UN rep sbites; Talabani, al-Maliki LENGTH: 03:37 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Arabic/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/Agency Pool STORY NUMBER: 644571 DATELINE: Baghdad - 3 May 2010 LENGTH: 03:37 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY AGENCY POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST (FIRST RUN 1430 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 3 MAY 2010) AGENCY POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY 1. Employees of Independent High Electoral Commission (IHEC) recounting votes 2. Various of recount 3. Close-up of ballot box ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1530 NEWS UPDATE - 3 MAY 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY 4. Various of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani meeting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki 5. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Nouri al-Maliki, Prime Minister: "God willing, the meeting was fruitful as it will help solve all problems and hardships facing the political process. It (the meeting) is a step on the path of accelerating the formation of the next government." 6. Mid of al-Maliki and Talabani (FIRST RUN 1430 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 3 MAY 2010) AGENCY POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY 7. Wide of State of Law (Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's coalition) official and Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani at news conference 8. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Hussain al-Shahristani, State of Law official and Iraqi Oil Minister: "We do not believe what is going on today is accurate work and the IHEC has not complied with the decision of the review panel. So the State of Law has submitted a new complaint to the electoral review panel this morning, showing that the IHEC is insisting on not letting the results reflect the Iraqi voters' will on March 7." 9. Various of recount 10. Wide of news conference 11. SOUNDBITE (English, simultaneously translated into Arabic) Ad Melkert, UN representative in Iraq: "It is an important moment in the election process in Iraq. The recount has started this morning and it has been set up in a very professional way and it is yet another reassurance to the Iraqi voters that their vote will be respected and therefore it is also important that those that have issued complaints now find a way through the recount to see whether these complaints are justified." 12. Cutaway of journalists 13. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Faraj al-Haidari, IHEC chief: "The electoral commission's measures are according to the decision of the review panel. The decision of the review panel stressed the necessity of conducting the recount in the polling stations in which votes were discarded and not only in the disputed stations but all over Baghdad." 14. Various of news conference STORYLINE Iraqi election officials have argued publicly with supporters of the prime minister who demanded a halt to a partial recount of votes just as the process got under way. The recount of 2.5 (m) million votes cast March 7 in the capital Baghdad was ordered at the request of Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who narrowly lost to former prime minister Ayad Allawi with heavy Sunni support. It has further delayed the formation of a government. Al-Maliki demanded recounts in five provinces and got one in Baghdad, which started Monday morning. But about an hour after it began, representatives of the prime minister's State of Law coalition arrived at the Rasheed Hotel in the walled-off Green Zone where the recount was in progress and demanded publicly at a news conference that it be halted. The coalition complained the commission wasn't conducting the recount properly by not reopening voter records and checking voter signatures against ballots. State of Law official and Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani also charged that election commission officials had manipulated the votes and demanded they be held accountable. Election officials dismissed the charge, and the recount continued uninterrupted after the argument. Election commission chief Faraj al-Haidari and al-Shahristani raised their voices and wagged fingers at each other as journalists crowded around. State TV cut their live transmission of the event but the spat continued off-camera just a few yards from where the recount was taking place, with bodyguards trying to keep journalists away from the officials. No party won a clear parliamentary majority in the election, and more than a month of haggling among political factions has not produced any clear indication of how a ruling coalition might look. Al-Maliki has vociferously challenged the results which gave him 89 of 325 seats in parliament, trailing close behind Allawi's bloc with 91 seats. On Monday, al-Maliki held talks with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani in Baghdad. "It (the meeting) is a step on the path of accelerating the formation of the next government," al-Maliki told reporters after the meeting. If the recount alters the results, it could infuriate Iraq's once-dominant Sunni Arab minority, which is already wary of al-Maliki's Shiite-led government and what they see as efforts to steal the election. The United Nations, the US Embassy, and the Arab League as well as Iraqi election officials have all declared the election free of systematic fraud. The United Nations representative in Iraq, Ad Melkert, called the recount process professional and urged people to be patient while it is carried out. 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APTN APEX 05-03-10 1430EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: China Kim Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:China Kim- REPLAY Stills of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il in China; Video LENGTH: 01:16 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: Various STORY NUMBER: 644552 DATELINE: Dalian - 3 May 2010 LENGTH: 01:16 NHK - NO ACCESS JAPAN, NO ACCESS INTERNET - MUST SHOW "NHK" LOGO - CLIENTS MUST USE THE VIDEO AS IT IS - NO MODIFICATION OF VIDEO ALLOWED (NO ENLARGEMENT, NO SCALING OUT, NO CHANGE OF SPEED) AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE - NO ACCESS JAPAN SHOTLIST ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1230 NEWS UPDATE, MAY 03, 2010) NHK - NO ACCESS JAPAN, NO ACCESS INTERNET - MUST SHOW "NHK" LOGO - CLIENTS MUST USE THE VIDEO AS IT IS - NO MODIFICATION OF VIDEO ALLOWED (NO ENLARGEMENT, NO SCALING OUT, NO CHANGE OF SPEED) 1. Security and officials outside hotel 2. North Korean leader Kim Jong Il (wearing sunglasses) getting into car outside hotel - video filmed through window 3. Slow motion replay of Kim getting into car (FIRST RUN 1130 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, MAY 03 2010) AP PHOTO/KYODO NEWS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE - NO ACCESS JAPAN - MANDATORY ON SCREEN CREDIT "KYODO NEWS" 4. STILL - North Korean leader Kim Jong Il wearing sunglasses (++Same location as shots 1-3) 5. STILL - Wide of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il with Chinese guard saluting in the background 6. STILL - North Korean leader Kim Jong Il getting into car 7. STILL - Close-up of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il getting into car STORYLINE: Reclusive North Korean leader Kim Jong Il visited neighbouring China on Monday, reportedly arriving by a luxury 17-car train reports said. Japan's NHK filmed Kim getting into a car at a hotel in the northern port city of Dalian, the broadcaster reported. Earlier in the day, Kim's special armoured train arrived to a phalanx of soldiers and police in the Chinese border town of Dandong, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said. Kim is known to shun air travel. It is his first journey abroad in years as his regime faces a worsening economy and speculation it may have torpedoed a South Korean warship. Kim met local Dandong leaders before moving on, the Hong Kong-based Information Centre for Human Rights and Democracy said in a release, citing sources in the border town who claimed they saw the North Korean leader. The train then headed to Dalian, the Yonhap news agency said. A convoy of 15 limousines was seen arriving at the city's five-star Furama Hotel, the report said, citing unidentified sources in Dandong and Beijing. Kyodo News agency, citing unidentified sources knowledgeable about China-North Korea relations, also said Kim and his party were seen at the hotel. A switchboard operator at the hotel, where the presidential suite runs more than 2,100 dollars a night, told The Associated Press that security had been tightened but she would not say whether Kim was expected. Kim's visit comes at an awkward time for Beijing. The Chinese leadership has been trying to get Kim to agree to return to six-nation nuclear disarmament talks stalled now for a year, and believed that it had won the North Korean dictator's assent last October. Since then, however, prospects for negotiations have dimmed. Pyongyang has been unwilling to comply with requests from the US to resume the talks, and tensions have risen between North Korea and South Korea, partly over the mysterious ship sinking in late March in which 46 sailors were killed. Rumours of a Kim trip, the first since one to China in 2006 and since the 68-year-old leader reportedly suffered a stroke in 2008, have circulated for months since Chinese President Hu Jintao invited the notoriously reclusive leader for a visit to mark the 60th anniversary of diplomatic ties between the allies. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 05-03-10 1430EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++US Oil Spill 3 Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:++US Oil Spill 3- NEW Latest on efforts to stop oil spewing into sea; dead turtles LENGTH: 02:35 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 644572 DATELINE: Various, 2-3 May 2010 LENGTH: 02:35 ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THESE TURTLES DIED FROM THE OIL SPILL++ AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: Gulfport, Mississippi, 2 March 2010 ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THESE TURTLES DIED FROM THE OIL SPILL++ 1. Various of dead turtles on beach 2. Various of Institute for Marine Mammal Studies officials placing turtle carcass in bag Pass Christian, Mississippi, 3 March 2010 ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THESE TURTLES DIED FROM THE OIL SPILL++ 3. Wide of Institute for Marine Mammal official taking photos of dead turtle 4. Various of dead turtle 5. Turtle being placed in bag Longbeach, Mississippi, 3 March 2010 ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THESE TURTLES DIED FROM THE OIL SPILL++ 6. WIde of dead turtle 7. Close-up dead turtle Gulfport,Mississippi, 3 March 2010 8. SOUNDBITE: (English) Gus Harris, Owner of Cajun Crawfish Restaurant: "Well, we don't know how bad it's going to be and whatever impact it has on us, financially it's going to hurt us. Even if we are able to prepare shrimp or oysters elsewhere, the prices are going to go up and that's going to mean customers are going to come less often. Things are tight enough as it is, fuel prices are already high. How much money they have to eat out with, this is an area where we depend on the Gulf." Longbeach, Mississippi, 3 March 2010 9. Various of US Environmental Services workers cleaning oil off beach 10. Wide of workers on beach 11. Various of bags full of oil being loaded onto US Environmental Services truck, truck drives away STORYLINE: BP PLC said on Monday it will pay for all the cleanup costs from a ruptured oil well in the Gulf of Mexico that could continue spewing crude for at least another week. The announcement came as officials with the Institute for Marine Mammal Studies continued to find dead turtles on Mississippi beaches on Monday. They were taken away for examination to determine whether oil was a factor in their deaths. Necropsies have been completed on five of the 25 dead sea turtles that have been found in the past few days along Mississippi beaches with no evidence of oil found, said Brian Gorman of the National Marine Fisheries Service, which is overseeing the procedures being done in Gulfport. At least six of the 25 turtles are the endangered Kemp's Ridley, which breed nowhere else in the world but on beaches in Mexico and southern Texas, and are considered among the most imperiled turtle species. The oil spill has rattled fishermen as well as business-owners along the Mississippi Delta. On Sunday, fishermen from the mouth of the Mississippi River to the Florida Panhandle got the news that more than 6,800 square miles of federal fishing areas were closed, fracturing their livelihood for at least 10 days and likely more as the prime spring season was kicking in. "We don't know how bad it's going and whatever it impact it has on us, financially it's going to hurt us," Gus Harris, the owner of Cajun Crawfish Restaurant, said In Gulfport, Mississippi. Meanwhile, workers shovelled oil into large trash bags on Longbeach, Mississippi. BP posted a fact sheet on its website saying it took responsibility for the response to the Deepwater Horizon spill and would pay compensation for legitimate claims for property damage, personal injury and commercial losses. BP's CEP said chemical dispersants put into the sea seem to be having a significant impact in keeping oil from flowing to the surface, though he did not elaborate. The update on the dispersants came as BP was preparing a system never tried nearly a mile (1.6 kilometres) under water to siphon away the geyser of crude from a blown-out well. However, the plan to lower 74-ton, concrete-and-metal boxes being built to capture the oil and siphon it to a barge waiting at the surface will need at least another six to eight days to get it in place. That could spill at least another (m) million gallons (3.8 million litres) into the Gulf, on top of the roughly 2.6 (m) million gallons (9.8 million litres) already estimated to have spilled since the April 20 blast. Those numbers are based on the Coast Guard's estimates that 200-thousand gallons (757,060 litres) a day are spilling out, though officials have cautioned it's impossible to know exactly how much is leaking. By comparison, the tanker Exxon Valdez spilled 11 (m) million gallons (42 million litres) off the Alaska coast in 1989. Officials also were trying to cap one of three leaks to make it easier to place the first box on the sea floor. Crews continued to lay boom to try to keep the spill from reaching the shore, though choppy seas have made that difficult and rendered much of the oil-corralling gear useless. 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APTN APEX 05-03-10 1610EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Greece Crisis 5 Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:Greece Crisis 5- WRAP Protests against govt; Papandreu, Tsipras; military protest LENGTH: 03:34 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Greek/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 644569 DATELINE: Athens - 3 May 2010 LENGTH: 03:34 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS, MAY 03 2010) 1. Various of military personnel marching through historic Plaka district 2. Close-up of military decoration on officer's shoulder 3. Military personnel 4. Pan of protesting military personnel 5. Air Force officers 6. Military with Greek flag 7. SOUNDBITE (Greek) Anastassios Vytinidis, naval officer "There is great indignation and something must be done. The Greek military personnel are reaching their limits." (FIRST RUN 1230 NEWS UPDATE - 3 MAY 2010) 8. Various of garbage trucks being driven through streets by striking garbage workers 9. Wide of striking municipal workers, including garbage workers 10. Close-up of worker in orange vest, chanting 11. Wide of marching demonstrators 12. SOUNDBITE (Greek) Andreas, last name not given, striker: "The strike will last indefinitely, until they take the measures back." 13. SOUNDBITE (Greek) Katerina, last name not given, worker for the municipality of Athens: "They deceived us. They didn't tell us all this from the start. George (Papandreou) was telling us he would do one thing and he did another. He sold us out." 14. Wide of Parliament with garbage truck passing in front of it 15. Close-up of riot police (FIRST RUN 1330 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 3 MAY 2010) 16. Papandreou leaving presidential palace 17. SOUNDBITE (Greek) George Papandreou, Prime Minister: ++SOUNDBITE ENDS ON PAPANDREOU LEAVING NEWS CONFERENCE++ "We will make a new beginning, a Greece that is more just, that is transparent, a Greece that is more humane, a Greece of development, competitive, a Greece of which we could all be proud. It is in our hands to make this crisis an opportunity." 18. Left Coalition party leader Alexis Tsipras crossing street and entering grounds of presidential palace 19. SOUDNBITE (Greek) Alexis Tsipras, Left Coalition party leader: "We presented our recommendation for the need to have a democratic way out and for the people of Greece to select their future; our recommendation is for a referendum on these measures. We deem there is an alternative route, there is an alternate perspective." 20. Various of people demonstrating and holding protest banner, being stopped by police next to presidential palace STORYLINE: Members of Greece's military marched through Athens on Monday in a show of protest against the austerity measures announced by the government. Greece announced more austerity measures on Sunday worth 40 (b) billion dollars through 2012 - including public service and pension pay cuts, higher taxes and a more streamlined government. The measures are expected to exacerbate its recession, but a massive rescue plan announced at the weekend will include 13.3 (b) billion dollars for a "stabilisation fund" to support Greek banks. Garbage workers also demonstrated, driving their trucks through the streets of the Greek capital. About 1,000 garbage collectors and other striking municipal workers marched to the Greek parliament chanting "trash for parliament, not the landfill!" "They deceived us. They didn't tell us all this from the start. George (Papandreou) was telling us he would do one thing and he did another. He sold us out," said one municipal worker. A number of demonstrations against Greece's austerity measures have been taking place over the weekend. The tough measures enabled the country to secure the loans from the European Union (EU) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Unions have protested sharply, but Prime Minister George Papandreou insists the new measures are vital for Greece's financial survival. "It is in our hands to make this crisis an opportunity," Papandreou said on Monday after meeting with the country's president, Karolos Papoulias. Left Coalition party leader Alexis Tsipras also met with Papoulias and later called for a referendum on the measures. "We deem there is an alternative route, there is an alternate perspective," Tsipras told reporters. Greek labour unions and opposition parties reacted angrily to the new austerity package, accusing the government of breaking a pledge not to impose any further cuts after previous measures were announced in March. Unions are planning a general strike on Wednesday. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 05-03-10 1430EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Europe Press Freedom Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:Europe Press Freedom- REPLAY Memorial unveiled in Kosovo, protest in Paris on World Press Freedom day LENGTH: 03:04 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: Part No Access Kosovo TYPE: Albanian/French/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/RTK STORY NUMBER: 644555 DATELINE: Various, 3 May 2010 LENGTH: 03:04 RTK - NO ACCESS KOSOVO AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST RTK - NO ACCESS KOSOVO Vitina, Kosovo 1. Pan of guests seated for unveiling of memorial 2. Guests at memorial 3. John Lawton (closest to camera), father of journalist Kerem Lawton, who was killed in Kosovo in 2001 while working for Associated Press Television News 4. SOUNDBITE (Albanian) Shyqri Halabaku, President of Kerem Lawton Journalist's Club: "Today's unveiling of this monument on behalf of the Kerem Lawton Journalist's Club is a memorial that symbolises not only the enormous sacrifice but also the tireless work of journalists around the world." 5. Close-up of guest 6. Unveiling of memorial 7. Plaque with photo of Kerem Lawton 8. Inscription on memorial 9. Model camera hanging from memorial 10. Dignitaries including John Lawton and director of AP television's international news operations in London, Sandy MacIntyre, standing by memorial 11. Wide of people at unveiling AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Paris, France 12. Wide of Reporters Sans Frontieres (Reporters Without Borders) activists outside Iranian embassy 13. Emassay sign 14. Various of Reporters Without Borders activists throwing balls made out of newspapers into the courtyard of the Iranian embassy 15. SOUNDBITE (English) Reza, Iranian photographer working in Paris: "This is one of the darkets times of our history in Iran, the darkest time because we are under a military coup, and not only the journalists but the whole nation is under this military coup. Iraq has become the biggest prison in the world, in a prison that has where there's no law, a lawless prison even." 16. Balls made out of newspapers in courtyard of the Iranian embassy 17. Various of activists chanting 18. SOUNDBITE (French) Jean-Francois Juillard, head of Reporters without Borders: "We have chosen Iran because it is one of the worst countries for press freedom in the world, it is one of the biggest prisons for journalists in the world, it is the country where the biggest number of journalists have fled because they were threatened to death, threatened of arrest. In the last months, since the controversial elections of June 12th 2009, there is a wave of repression on Iranian journalists as never before. Today it is absolutely impossible to do the job of a journalist in Iran." 19. Activists chanting outside embassy STORYLINE Kosovo marked World Press Freedom Day on Monday with the unveiling of a memorial dedicated to Kerem Lawton, a producer for Associated Press Television News, killed in Kosovo in 2001. Lawton died when a mortar shell slammed into his vehicle as he was covering border fighting between ethnic Albanian rebels and Macedonian government forces. Both the Macedonian army and the rebel National Liberation Army denied responsibility for the attack and a subsequent NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) investigation failed to determine who was responsible. "Today's unveiling ? symbolises not only the enormous sacrifice but also the tireless work of journalists around the world," said Shyqri Halabaku, president of the Kerem Lawton Journalist's Club, that initiated the project in the municipality of Vitina, an area bordering Macedonia. The unveiling was attended by Lawton's father, John and Sandy MacIntyre, director of AP television's international news operations in London. Over 1,500 journalists have died while covering stories in the last 14 years, according to International News Safety Institute (INSI) a group of news organisations, journalists and individuals committed to improving safety for media staff working in dangerous environments. Forty-two journalists have been killed during 2010 alone, according to an April 28 INSI press release. At least 27 of those deaths were confirmed to be connected with the victims' work as journalists, the press release said. Most of the journalists were killed while covering corruption, crime and unrest in their home countries, INSI said on its website (www.newssafety.org). Most of the cases remain unresolved. Meanwhile, in Paris, a group of activists from Reporters Sans Frontieres (Reporters Without Borders) marked World Press Day by throwing balls made of newspapers into the courtyard of the Iranian embassy. RSF on Monday released a list of what it claimed were the world's 40 worst "predators of the press". The list - made up of politicians, government officials, religious leaders, militias and criminal organisations - included Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. 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APTN APEX 05-03-10 1430EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: France Polanski 2 Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:France Polanski 2- REPLAY Polanski says US wants to serve him 'on a platter to media'; file LENGTH: 01:16 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: French/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 644580 DATELINE: Paris, Cannes, 3 May 2010/FILE LENGTH: 01:16 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 1530 NEWS UPDATE, MAY 03 2010) Paris - 3 May 2010 1. Wide of French newspapers with Polanski headlines 2. Pan of newspapers 3. Mid of Liberation's articles quoting Polanski "I ask to be treated as anyone else" 4. Close up of Figaro's articles 5. SOUNDBITE (French) Bernard Henri Levy, French philosopher who published Polanski's text: "He believed in the fairness of justice. He let his lawyers work and in the dead end, where he is now, this text is a cry of rage." 6. Zoom in on newspapers ++NEW (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS, MAY 03 2010) FILE - Cannes, 25 May 2005 7. Various of film director Roman Polanski on red carpet, being photographed FILE - Paris, 28 February 2008 8. Film director Roman Polanski talking to reporter STORYLINE: Filmmaker Roman Polanski, breaking a months-long silence, said on Sunday that the US is demanding his extradition from Switzerland on a 33-year-old sex case largely to serve him "on a platter to the media." Polanski, who is under house arrest in his Alpine Swiss chalet, laid out his case against extradition on an online magazine run by one of his staunchest supporters, French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy. On Sunday Levy said "in the dead end where he is now, this text is a cry of rage." One of Polanski's complaints is that Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley, "who is handling this case and has requested (the) extradition, is himself campaigning for election and needs media publicity." Cooley is running for California attorney general. Swiss authorities are trying to decide whether to extradite Polanski to Los Angeles for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl. Polanski was arrested seven months ago as he arrived in Zurich to receive a lifetime achievement award at a film festival. The Oscar-winning director of "Rosemary's Baby," "Chinatown" and "The Pianist" was put behind bars for more than two months before being transferred on 4.5 (m) million US dollar bail to house arrest in the luxury resort of Gstaad. Polanski wrote in the online magazine, La Regle du Jeu, that he had mortgaged his apartment to pay the bail. Three decades ago, Polanski was accused of plying his victim with champagne and part of a Quaalude pill, a sedative, during a modelling shoot and raping her. He was initially indicted on six felony counts, including rape by use of drugs, child molesting and sodomy. He later pleaded guilty to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse. What happened after that is a subject of dispute. The defence says the now deceased judge, Laurence J. Rittenband, had agreed in meetings with lawyers to sentence Polanski to a 90-day diagnostic study and nothing more. But the judge later changed his mind and summoned Polanski for further sentencing - at which time he fled to his native France, lawyers said. Polanski claimed the judge "betrayed" him and wanted "to gain himself some publicity at my expense." He said the request for his extradition is "founded on a lie." Polanski said retired Deputy District Attorney Roger Gunson, who worked on the case three decades ago, has confirmed his take on events under oath. The director's lawyers have argued that unsealing transcripts of Gunson's secret testimony would show the extradition request is based on false and incomplete statements by the Los Angeles district attorney's office. Polanski added: "I can no longer remain silent because the United States continues to demand my extradition more to serve me on a platter to the media of the world than to pronounce a judgment concerning which an agreement was reached 33 years ago." The filmmaker has kept largely silent under house arrest. In December, he released a message thanking his supporters for their letters. 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APTN APEX 05-03-10 1430EDT ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: FILE Redgrave Monday, 3 May 2010 STORY:FILE Redgrave- REPLAY Actress Lynn Redgrave has died, her children have announced LENGTH: 02:07 FIRST RUN: 1730 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: English/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/AP PHOTOS STORY NUMBER: 644581 DATELINE: FILE LENGTH: 02:07 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE SHOTLIST: AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Beverly Hills, California, 8 March 1999 1. Pull out from close-up of actress Lynn Redgrave AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE FILE: New York, 11 November 1976 2. STILL: Actress Lynn Redgrave at Sardi's restaurant AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE FILE: Los Angeles, 31 August 1981 3. STILL: Actress Lynn Redgrave holds her 6-week-old daughter Annabel during a press conference AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE FILE: New York, 27 December 1989 4. STILL: Lynn Redgrave and her husband, director-actor John Clark AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE FILE: Los Angeles, March 1989 5. STILL: Actress Lynn Redgrave is shown with her daughter Annabel AP PHOTOS - NO ACCESS CANADA/FOR BROADCAST USE ONLY - STRICTLY NO ACCESS ONLINE OR MOBILE FILE: New York, 11 June 2007 6. STILL: Actresses Lynn Redgrave, left, and Vanessa Redgrave arrive at the premiere of "Evening" AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: London, 9th December 2003 7. Lynn Redgrave speaking to reporter AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Los Angeles, 13 March 1997 8. Lynn Redgrave arriving and speaking to reporter AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: New York, 27 January 1999 9. Lynn Redgrave arriving 10. Wide of Lynn Redgrave speaking to reporter 11. SOUNDBITE (English) Lynn Redgrave, actress: "It feels awfully good. I'm still floating a little bit. I haven't quite come down. I'm working on a film here and my colleagues on 'The Simian Line,' William Hurt and Harry Connick Jr. and the entire crew are still treating me with this wonderful sort of royalty thing, you know. They call me to the set by calling for a Golden Globe winner, not Miss Redgrave or Lynn, it's 'could the Golden Globe winner please come to the set if she wouldn't mind,' you know, things like that. So I'm really loving it." AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY FILE: Hollywood, California, 16 November 1999 12. Lynn Redgrave speaking to reporter 13. Wide of Lynn Redgrave posing for photographers STORYLINE: Lynn Redgrave, an introspective and independent player in her family's acting dynasty who became a 1960s sensation as the unconventional title character of "Georgy Girl" and later dramatised her troubled past in such one-woman stage performances as "Shakespeare for My Father" and "Nightingale," has died. She was 67. Her publicist Rick Miramontez, speaking on behalf of her children, said Redgrave died peacefully Sunday night at her home in Connecticut. Children Ben, Pema and Annabel were with her, as were close friends. "Our beloved mother Lynn Rachel passed away peacefully after a seven year journey with breast cancer," Redgrave's children said in a statement on Monday. "She lived, loved and worked harder than ever before. The endless memories she created as a mother, grandmother, writer, actor and friend will sustain us for the rest of our lives. Our entire family asks for privacy through this difficult time." Redgrave was diagnosed with breast cancer in December 2002, had a mastectomy in January 2003 and underwent chemotherapy. The British actress' death comes a year after her niece Natasha Richardson died from head injuries sustained in a skiing accident and just a month after the death of her older brother, Corin Redgrave. The youngest child of Michael Redgrave and Rachel Kempson, Lynn Redgrave never quite managed the acclaim - or notoriety - of elder sibling Vanessa Redgrave, but received Oscar nominations for "Georgy Girl" and "Gods and Monsters," and Tony nominations for "Mrs. Warren's Profession," "Shakespeare for My Father" and "The Constant Wife." In recent years, she also made appearances on TV in "Ugly Betty," "Law & Order" and "Desperate Housewives." In theatre, the ruby-haired Redgrave often displayed a sunny, sweet and open personality, much like her ebullient offstage personality. It worked well in such shows as "Black Comedy" - her Broadway debut in 1972 - and again two years later in "My Fat Friend," a comedy about an overweight young woman who sheds pounds to find romance. Tall and blue-eyed like her sister, she was as open about her personal life as Vanessa has been about politics. In plays and in interviews, Lynn Redgrave confided about her family, her marriage and her health. She acknowledged that she suffered from bulimia and served as a spokeswoman for Weight Watchers. With daughter Annabel Clark, she released a 2004 book about her fight with cancer, "Journal: A Mother and Daughter's Recovery From Breast Cancer." Redgrave was born in London in 1943 and despite self-doubts pursued the family trade. She studied at London's Central School of Speech and Drama, and was not yet 20 when she debuted professionally on stage in a London production of "A Midsummer's Night Dream." Like her siblings, she appeared in plays and in films, working under Noel Coward and Laurence Olivier as a member of the National Theatre and under director/brother-in-law Tony Richardson in the 1963 screen hit "Tom Jones." True fame caught her with "Georgy Girl," billed as "the wildest thing to hit the world since the miniskirt." The 1966 film starred Redgrave as the plain, childlike Londoner pursued by her father's middle-aged boss, played by James Mason. 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AP-APTN-1830 North America Prime News -Final Friday, 12 March 2010 North America Prime News Mexico Killings 02:15 AP Clients Only REPLAY Gunmen kill five in attack on funeral wake Pakistan Violence Wrap 03:49 Part No Access Pakistan WRAP Twin suicide bombs kill 43; third explosion hits city Europe US 01:45 Part No NAmerica/Internet REPLAY Brown and Sarkozy accuse US of protectionism over plane deal Mideast Tension 2 03:21 AP Clients Only REPLAY Scuffles at Friday prayers; ADDS Naalin protest, Hamas demo Mideast Boy 02:02 AP Clients Only REPLAY 2 Israeli soldiers indicted for Gaza war conduct, in treatment of boy ++Jordan Biden 01:05 AP Clients Only NEW US Vice President visits Petra at end of diplomatic tour Vatican Germany 02:47 AP Clients Only German bishop says pope dismayed at alleged abuser, analyst Thailand Protest 2 01:14 AP Clients Only REPLAY Anti-government 'red shirts' arriving for weekend rally to force elex India Putin 03:28 AP Clients Only REPLAY Russian PM holds talks with Indian leaders, signs deals B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 1830 GMT. APEX 03-12-10 1357EST -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-1830: Mexico Killings Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Mexico Killings- REPLAY Gunmen kill five in attack on funeral wake LENGTH: 02:15 FIRST RUN: 1730 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 639985 DATELINE: Ciudad Juarez - 11 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 02:15 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: ++NIGHT SHOTS++ 1. Wide of street with funeral home where shootings took place 2. Mid of two bodies on the ground 3. Wide of vehicle with body of a victim inside 4. Mid of federal police taking pictures of evidence at crime scene 5. Wide of soldiers at crime scene with bodies in background 6. Various shots of municipal police pulling sheets over bodies 7. More various shots of scene with vehicle, bodies and police 8. Wide of street cordoned off where funeral home is located 9. Mid of military vehicle blocking street 10. Close up of armed soldiers in military vehicles 11. Mid of street where shooting took place 12. Mid of soldier guarding bodies of victims 13. Close up of bullet shell at crime scene 14. Wide of soldiers at crime scene 15. Close up of female family member of a victim crying at crime scene 16. Wide of area where shooting took place 17. Mid of soldiers blocking the street 18. Wide of local police taking photos at crime scene 19. Wide of local police uncovering victim's body to gather evidence 20. Mid of uncovered body 21. Wide of body in vehicle through bars 22. Close up of leg of victim 23. Various shots of federal police questioning a witness 24. Wide of police tape blocking off area 25. Mid of people observing crime scene 26. Wide of federal police at crime scene 27. Wide of neighbours observing crime scene 28. Mid of neighbours outside crime scene with bodies in the background 29. Mid of body surrounded by ballistic markers STORYLINE Gunmen burst into a wake in the border city of Ciudad Juarez on Thursday and opened fire, killing 5 young men and wounding five others, including a 10-year-old girl. The wake was being held at a private home for an 18-year-old man who had been shot to death in his car two days before. The bodies of the shooting victims lay in the street outside the home, after they apparently tried to flee the gunmen, a Chihuahua state official said. There was no immediate information on the condition of the wounded, who were taken to local hospitals for treatment. The city has been plagued by drug gang violence in which gunmen often seek to finish off wounded rivals or associates of previous victims. Gunmen have attacked homes where they believe rivals might be gathering. About 17,900 people have been killed since President Felipe Calderon launched an offensive against drug trafficking in December 2006. 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APTN APEX 03-12-10 1349EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Pakistan Violence Wrap Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Pakistan Violence Wrap- WRAP Twin suicide bombs kill 43; third explosion hits city LENGTH: 03:49 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: Part No Access Pakistan TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: GEO TV/AP TELEVISION/EXPRESS TV STORY NUMBER: 639993 DATELINE: Lahore - 12 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 03:49 GEO TV - NO ACCESS PAKISTAN AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY EXPRESS TV - NO ACCESS PAKISTAN SHOTLIST (FIRST RUN 1330 NEWS UPDATE - 12 March 2010) GEO TV - NO ACCESS PAKISTAN ++THIS VIDEO REFERS TO SUICIDE BOMBINGS IN WHICH 43 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND 100 WOUNDED++ 1. Mobile phone footage of explosion taking place (FIRST RUN 1130 NEWS UPDATE - 12 March 2010) GEO TV - NO ACCESS PAKISTAN ++THIS VIDEO REFERS TO SUICIDE BOMBINGS IN WHICH 43 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND 100 WOUNDED++ 2. Mobile phone footage showing immediate aftermath of bomb blasts, burning debris, onlookers at scene, people tending to the injured (FIRST RUN 1330 NEWS UPDATE - 12 March 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY 3. Various high angle shots of police and firefighters near blast scene 4. Ambulances driving away from scene 5. Wide exterior of Lahore General Hospital 6. Various of injured being brought into hospital (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 12 March 2010) EXPRESS TV - NO ACCESS PAKISTAN ++THIS VIDEO REFERS TO SERIES OF SMALL EXPLOSIONS IN LAHORE RESIDENTIAL AREA IN WHICH 3 PEOPLE WERE INJURED++ ++NIGHT SHOTS++ 7. Tracking shot of emergency vehicles at scene 8. Police at scene 9. Police standing around mound of dirt 10. Building near scene 11. People standing behind police cordon 12. Police with metal detector examining mound of dirt 13. Police digging in mound of dirt 14. Building near scene STORYLINE A pair of suicide bombers targeting army vehicles detonated explosives within seconds of each other on Friday, killing at least 43 people in the eastern Pakistani city of Lahore and wounding about 100, police said. It was the fourth major attack in Pakistan this week, indicating Islamist militants were stepping up violence after a period of relative calm. Hours later, a series of small explosions terrified residents in a different Lahore neighbourhood and injured at least three people. Police officials said the four low-intensity blasts apparently resulted from loose explosives - not packed bombs - scattered through the residential area. While the explosions sent police and rescue workers racing through the area, there were no immediate reports of deaths or major damage. About 10 of those killed in the earlier twin blasts were soldiers, said Lahore police chief Parvaiz Rathore. The bombers, who were on foot, struck RA Bazaar, a residential and commercial neighbourhood where several security agencies have facilities. Security forces swarmed the area as thick black smoke rose into the sky and bystanders rushed the injured into ambulances. Video shot with a mobile phone camera showed one explosion taking place. Another video, also shot by mobile phone camera just after the explosions, showed the immediate aftermath and chaos, with burning debris and people tending to the injured, according to GEO TV, which broadcast both videos. A senior police official said 43 people were killed and about 100 were injured. No group immediately claimed responsibility, but suspicion quickly fell on the Pakistani Taliban and al-Qaida. The militants are believed to have been behind scores of attacks in US-allied Pakistan over the last several years, including a series of strikes that began in October and lasted around three months, killing some 600 people in apparent retaliation for an army offensive along the Afghan border. In more recent months, the attacks were smaller, fewer and confined to remote regions near Afghanistan. But on Monday, a suicide car bomber struck a building in Lahore where police interrogated high-value suspects - including militants - killing at least 13 people and wounding dozens. The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility. Militant attacks in Pakistan frequently target security forces, though civilian targets have not escaped. During the bloody wave of attacks that began in October - coinciding with the army's ground offensive against the Pakistani Taliban in the South Waziristan tribal area - Lahore was hit several times. In mid-October, three groups of gunmen attacked three security facilities in the eastern city, a rampage that left 28 dead. Twin suicide bombings at a market there in December killed around 50 people. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 03-12-10 1415EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Europe US Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Europe US- REPLAY Brown and Sarkozy accuse US of protectionism over plane deal LENGTH: 01:45 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: Part No NAmerica/Internet TYPE: French/English/Nat SOURCE: POOL/ABC STORY NUMBER: 639949 DATELINE: London - 12 Mar 2010/FILE LENGTH: 01:45 POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET SHOTLIST POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY London, UK - 12 March 2010 1. Wide of French President Nicolas Sarkozy walking to meet British Prime Minister Gordon Brown outside 10 Downing Street, zoom in as they greet each other 2. Wide of Sarkozy and Brown walking in to news conference 3. SOUNDBITE: (French) Nicolas Sarkozy, French President: "This is not the right way for the United States to treat its European allies, and it's not the right way for the United States to behave, because it is a major nation, a leading nation. We are close friends of the United States, and also allies in fighting protectionism. If they want to be spearheading the fight against protectionism, they shouldn't be setting the wrong example by being protectionist. You know, in life there is what you say, and then there is what you do." ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET FILE: Date and Location unknown 4. A Northrup Grumman KC-45A plane taxiing on tarmac (the type of plane in the original contract awarded in 2008) POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY London, UK - 12 March 2010 5. SOUNDBITE: (English) Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister: "I too am disappointed about the American decision, and we have made our views known about this as well. We believe in free trade, we believe in open markets, we believe in open competition, and clearly it is a disappointment to us that the market, or the offer, that has come from Europe has not found the favour that we believed it deserved in the United States of America." ABC - NO ACCESS NORTH AMERICA/INTERNET FILE: Date and Location unknown 6. KC-45A tanker taking off STORYLINE French President Nicolas Sarkozy visited London on Friday where he had a meeting with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown at 10 Downing Street, before the two held a joint news conference, during which Sarkozy accused the United States of protectionism over a contract to build a new US Air Force refuelling tanker. Earlier this week, a European-led consortium pulled out of bidding for the 35 (b) billion US dollar contract, saying the Pentagon was favouring rival American bidder Boeing. "This is not the right way for the United States to treat its European allies," Sarkozy said. "If they want to be spearheading the fight against protectionism, they shouldn't be setting the wrong example by being protectionist," he said. "You know, in life there is what you say, and then there is what you do," he added. Brown also criticised the US, saying he was "disappointed" with the situation, adding that "we believe in free trade, we believe in open markets, we believe in open competition." The withdrawal of a bid by EADS, the parent company of Airbus, and Northrop Grumman, leaves Chicago-based Boeing as the only bidder for the 179-tanker order. The EADS-led consortium was awarded a contract for the tanker fleet in 2008, but Boeing protested and the deal was annulled later that year. The European Union has warned the United States about possible protectionism, saying it would be "extremely concerned" if it emerged that the terms of tender "were such as to inhibit open competition for the contract." Sarkozy and Brown gave their news conference after holding talks at 10 Downing Street that focused largely on the economy. The two leaders suggested a compromise was possible next week on the thorny issue of hedge fund and private equity fund regulation. The United States and Britain, which is home to most European hedge funds, are wary of proposed EU reforms to regulate the industry, fearing they could stifle growth and harm business. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 03-12-10 1332EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Mideast Tension 2 Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Mideast Tension 2- REPLAY Scuffles at Friday prayers; ADDS Naalin protest, Hamas demo LENGTH: 03:21 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 639950 DATELINE: Various - 12 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 03:21 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 1530 NEWS UPDATE 12 MARCH 2010) Jerusalem 1. Wide of Jerusalem skyline, dome of al-Aqsa Mosque in distance 2. Various of people trying to enter mosque for Friday prayers, alarm sounds, 3. Mid of scuffle between people trying to enter and riot police, woman pushed (FIRST RUN 1030 ME EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 12 MARCH 2010) Jerusalem 4. Mid of scuffles between people trying to enter and riot police, man falls to ground holding his head, blood running down from man's head 5. Injured man laying on ground, blood on his face and neck, people gathered round, trying to stop bleeding with t-shirt (FIRST RUN 1530 NEWS UPDATE 12 MARCH 2010) Jerusalem 6. Wide of crowd praying outside Old City, zoom into worshippers 7. Mid of police in riot gear walking down street 8. Wide of Palestinians throwing rocks at patrolling police 9. Mid of street, fire and smoke in skip 10. Wide of Palestinians throwing rocks 11. Mid of riot police with shields, as rocks are thrown at them 12. Wide of scene with fires burning 13. Mid of Palestinian youth moving barrier, fire burning in background 14. Mid of police apprehending man on ground and scuffles between police and other men, shouting man dragged to police vehicle (FIRST RUN 1530 NEWS UPDATE 12 MARCH 2010) Naalin, West Bank 15. Wide of riot police 16. Wide of demonstrators, chanting and pulling donkeys, marching toward Israeli separation barrier 17. Mid of demonstrator on donkey 18. Wide of demonstrators at separation barrier 19. Wide of scene, tear gas fired, pan to demonstrators running away 20. Mid of Israeli border police firing tear gas 21. Wide of scene, tear gas fired, canister thrown back at separation barrier (FIRST RUN 1530 NEWS UPDATE 12 MARCH 2010) Gaza City, Gaza Strip 23. Various of demonstrators walking and chanting, waving Palestinian flags STORYLINE Israel tightened security in Jerusalem and sealed off the West Bank for 48 hours on Friday, preventing Palestinians from entering Israel in what Israeli authorities said was an effort to curb unrest. There have been clashes after Friday prayers at mosques in Jerusalem and elsewhere in recent weeks, sparked by Israel's decision to include two West Bank shrines on a list of national heritage sites, as well as a deadlock in peace talks caused by Israel's announcement that it was going to build hundreds of new homes in east Jerusalem. Several Palestinians have been badly wounded in recent weeks and dozens of protesters and Israeli policemen have suffered light injuries. Police said only men over 50 will be allowed to pray on Friday at the shrine where many of the clashes took place - the Jerusalem compound Jews call the Temple Mount and Muslims call the Noble Sanctuary. There are no limitations on women worshippers, police said. The compound houses the al-Aqsa Mosque, one of Islam's holiest sites. Video shot outside the Old City gates on Friday showed Israeli riot police scuffling with people trying to make their way through the gates. One man was injured in the scuffles. The closure began at midnight on Thursday and will end at midnight on Saturday, Israeli authorities said. In the West Bank village of Naalin meanwhile, Palestinian, Israeli and foreign activists demonstrated on Friday against Israel's so-called "separation barrier". Protesters hurled rocks at Israeli troops who responded with tear gas. The protesters attempted to cross their donkeys over the fence but were turned back by Israeli forces. The barrier cuts off Naalin and other West Bank villages from parts of their land. Weekly protests near Naalin have become a symbol of the Palestinians' struggle against the barrier's encroachment on West Bank land, which they claim for their future state. In Gaza City on Friday, hundreds of people marched to express solidarity with worshippers in Jerusalem attempting to enter the al-Aqsa mosque. 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APTN APEX 03-12-10 1334EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Mideast Boy Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Mideast Boy- REPLAY 2 Israeli soldiers indicted for Gaza war conduct, in treatment of boy LENGTH: 02:02 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Arabic/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/POOL STORY NUMBER: 639979 DATELINE: Gaza - 12 Mar 2010/File LENGTH: 02:02 ++CLIENTS PLEASE IGNORE VIDEO SENT EARLIER USE THIS EDIT WITH CORRECT VIDEO++ AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY EMBED POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THE POOL CREW WERE EMBEDDED WITH THE ISRAELI FORCES AND MAY BE SUBJECT TO REPORTING RESTRICTIONS++ ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THE ISRAELI SOLDIERS FEATURED IN THIS VIDEO DO NOT INCLUDE THOSE SOLDIERS INDICTED ON THURSDAY++ SHOTLIST AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY Gaza City, Gaza Strip - 12 March 2010 1. Various of Majid Rabah, Palestinian boy who was forced by Israeli soldiers to open bags suspected of being booby-trapped, walking into basement where incident took place 2. Mid of Rabah in basement 3. Mid of child's bicycle in basement 4. Tilt up from debris on ground in basement to Rabah looking at it 5. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Majid Rabah, Palestinian boy forced by Israeli soldiers to open bags suspected of being booby-trapped: "The soldier grabbed me right here (holds collar to indicate) and took me into the basement, near the bathroom. He asked me to open the bags, I opened the first one but I couldn't open the second one. He slapped me across the face, he then moved back about four of five steps from me and then fired on the bag." 6. Cutaway of Rabah with his sister and another relative outside his home 7. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Afaf Rabah, Majid Rabah's mother: "I don't think any punishment will make them feel how we felt. No, of course this punishment is not enough compared to how we felt." 8. Mid of Rabah and his mother in their living room 9. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Afaf Rabah, Majid Rabah's mother: "I want to see them face trial not just for what they did to my son, but for everything they did to all our children, to all our people. To have to live in fear and terror is not something to be taken lightly. For a child to be startled from their sleep every day by the sound of airstrikes and bombardment and to go to sleep every night to the sound of bombardment is a huge deal." 10. Various more of Rabah in basement where incident took place EMBED POOL - AP CLIENTS ONLY ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THE POOL CREW WERE EMBEDDED WITH THE ISRAELI FORCES AND MAY BE SUBJECT TO REPORTING RESTRICTIONS++ ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: THE ISRAELI SOLDIERS FEATURED IN THIS VIDEO DO NOT INCLUDE THOSE SOLDIERS INDICTED ON THURSDAY++ FILE: Gaza City, Gaza Strip - 7 January 2009 11. Various of Israeli soldier during search operation inside Palestinian homes (this is not the search during which the incident occurred) STORYLINE The Israeli military said it has indicted two soldiers who forced a Palestinian boy to open bags which the soldiers claimed they suspected of being booby-trapped with explosives, during last year's military offensive on Gaza. The indictment, announced on Thursday, was only the second time the military has filed criminal charges against its own for conduct during the three-week operation in Gaza. The soldiers will be tried in a military court for "engaging in unauthorised conduct," a military statement said. The soldiers' actions contradicted military orders prohibiting the use of civilians in operational activity. Majid Rabah, the 9-year-old boy involved in the incident, was not harmed. Rabah showed AP Television on Friday the basement where the incident took place. He said a soldier grabbed him and walked him into the basement where he was instructed to open the bags which the soldiers suspected were booby-trapped with explosives. "I opened the first one but I couldn't open the second one," Rabah said. "He slapped me across the face, he then moved back about four of five steps from me and then fired on the bag," he added referring to an Israeli soldier. The Israeli military would not comment on camera about the incident when asked by the Associated Press. The military would also not identify the soldiers involved, nor say whether they were being represented by lawyers. The indictment is part of Israel's response to the international outcry over its conduct during the Gaza offensive, which killed about 1,400 Palestinians - more than half of them civilians - and caused widespread destruction. Thirteen Israelis were killed. A team of United Nations investigators led by jurist Richard Goldstone says it found evidence that both Israel and Hamas militants committed war crimes. Both sides deny the accusations. The UN General Assembly ordered Israel and Hamas to carry out credible investigations or face possible UN Security Council action. Israel has rejected the Goldstone report and insists it is capable of policing itself - a claim dismissed by international human rights group. The Israeli military has conducted several dozen criminal investigations into soldiers' conduct during the offensive, but only one has resulted in an indictment and a subsequent conviction - a case in which a soldier stole a credit card from a Palestinian family. The military said its investigation into the two soldiers indicted on Thursday began before the Goldstone report was filed last June. It said it looked into the allegations after a report from the UN and a formal complaint filed by a children's advocacy group. The soldiers, both staff sergeants, have since completed their mandatory military service and are now members of Israel's reserves. In a statement, the military said it was "morally obligated to prevent harming uninvolved civilians and takes numerous measures in order to maintain the values of conduct in warfare and the law by taking legal action against those who breach these moral values." 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APTN APEX 03-12-10 1336EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++Jordan Biden Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:++Jordan Biden- NEW US Vice President visits Petra at end of diplomatic tour LENGTH: 01:05 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 639981 DATELINE: Petra - 12 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 01:05 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST 1. Wide of Petra 2. Wide of helicopters flying over Petra 3. Tilt down to US Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Dr. Jill Biden walking through the Siq, the gorge leading to Petra 4. Biden posing for photograph with tourist 5. Pan from group of tourists to Biden and his wife 6. Biden and his wife looking at the Treasury 7. Wide of Treasury with tourists outside 8. US snipers on hill above Treasury 9. Close-up of Biden, pull out as he walks away 10. Wide of Biden and his wife entering the Church complex 11. Tilt up from mosaics on floor to Biden 12. Various of Biden and Dr. Jill Biden inside Church 13. Wide of Biden and his wife looking at mosaics 14. Biden and Dr. Jill Biden leaving 13. Wide of Petra with sun beginning to set STORYLINE: US Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Dr Jill Biden visited the ancient Jordanian city of Petra on Friday as his diplomatic tour of the region drew to a close. Biden and his wife spent two hours touring the buildings carved into red desert cliffs and stopped to pose for photographs with tourists. His three-day visit to the Middle East was overshadowed by Israel's announcement this week of plans to build 1,600 new housing units in east Jerusalem. The announcement enraged Palestinians and Arab states, jeopardising indirect peace talks to be mediated by US envoy George Mitchell. A senior US official in Washington said on Friday that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to complain about the plan. Carved by the Nabataeans into the sandstone cliffs in southern Jordan, Petra was a prosperous city during the first century B-C through to the third century A-D. Petra's unique desert ruins attract (m) millions of tourists every year and are known to many through films such as "Lawrence of Arabia" and "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade." Biden flew back to Washington later on Friday. 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APTN APEX 03-12-10 1358EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Vatican Germany Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Vatican Germany- German bishop says pope dismayed at alleged abuser, analyst LENGTH: 02:47 FIRST RUN: 1330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: German/Engllish/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 639968 DATELINE: Vatican City - 12 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 02:47 ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE SCRIPT UPDATED 1830GMT++ AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: 1. Wide pan from Vatican buildings to Saint Peter's Basilica 2. Statue of Jesus Christ 3. Interior of Vatican, wide of Chairman of the German Episcopal Conference, Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, entering news conference 4. Mid of Zollitsch talking 5. SOUNDBITE (German) Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, Chairman of the German Episcopal Conference: "The Holy Father (Pope Benedict XVI) has received my report with vigilance, great dismay and great distress and we had a very deep conversation about this." 6. Wide of news conference 7. SOUNDBITE (German) Archbishop Zollitsch, Chairman of the German Episcopal Conference: "We want to unveil the truth and we want an honest clearing up of this, free from any incorrect considerations. Even if we'll discover cases that date back to tens of years ago - the victims have the right to know." 8. Wide of news conference 9. SOUNDBITE (German) Archbishop Zollitsch, Chairman of the German Episcopal Conference: "According to every expert, pedagogical and sexual abuse have nothing to do with celibacy." 10. Cutaway of cameramen 11. Wide of Zollitsch leaving presser 12. Set up of Vatican expert Marco Politi being interviewed 13. SOUNDBITE (English) Marco Politi, Journalist and Vatican expert: "But the atmosphere in the Vatican is of great nervousness, anxiety because these last facts which happened in Germany and in Europe are devastating. As long as it happened in Australia, in the United States, it looked so far away. But now it is in Ireland, in Holland, in Germany and a lot of people are asking, in Germany also, what happened in the diocese where Ratzinger was cardinal for five years?" 14. Politi being interviewed 15. SOUNDBITE (English) Marco Politi, Journalist and Vatican expert: "Suddenly the policy of Benedict XVI is to be very strong against this phenomenon. He's in favour of tolerance zero. And he will write a letter to the Irish bishops which will be of importance for the whole world because it will be the first document of a contemporary Pope against paedophilia. But the Vatican must do more." 16. Wide of St.Peter's basilica STORYLINE: Pope Benedict XVI met with Germany's top bishop in the Vatican on Friday amid the escalating sexual abuse scandal affecting the Catholic Church in his homeland, and encouraged him to pursue the truth and assist the victims. Archbishop Robert Zollitsch said the pope was greatly dismayed and deeply moved as he was being briefed on the scandal during Friday's meeting at the Vatican. Zollitsch has apologised to German victims and promised to cooperate with prosecutors. But he and the Vatican have also insisted that sexual abuse of children isn't a problem specific to the Catholic Church. At least 170 former students from Catholic schools in Germany have come forward recently with claims of physical and sexual abuse, including at an all-boys choir once led by the pope's brother. Zollitsch also said he briefed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on measures implemented in Germany, and that the Vatican is considering a set of universal norms to deal with cases of clerical sex abuse. Benedict hasn't commented on the German scandal himself. But he decried the sexual abuse of children as a "heinous crime" after he summoned Irish bishops to Rome last month to discuss the even more widespread scandal in the Irish church. In addition to the cases in Germany and Ireland, three retired priests at a Catholic school in Austria were relieved of their clerical duties this week after allegations of physical and sexual abuse emerged. Two other priests in Austria have resigned amid similar allegations. And in the Netherlands, Catholic bishops announced an independent inquiry into more than 200 allegations of sexual abuse of children by priests at church schools and apologised to victims. Of all the European scandals, the German abuse allegations are particularly sensitive because Germany is Benedict's homeland, where he served as archbishop of Munich from 1977 to 1982, and because the scandals involve the prestigious choir that was led by his brother, Georg Ratzinger, from 1964 until 1994. Ratzinger has repeatedly said the sexual abuse allegations date from before his tenure as choir director and that he never heard of them, although he has admitted to slapping pupils as punishment. The pope's former German diocese also said on Friday that it made a mistake when the pontiff was archbishop in allowing a priest suspected to have abused a child to return to pastoral work. However, it said Benedict was unaware of the decision. The chaplain was sent to Munich in 1980 for therapy, the Munich archdiocese said in a statement. The diocese says it was made aware of the case by the Munich-based daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung in Munich, which first reported on it. The man, identified only as H., was allowed to stay in a vicarage while undergoing therapy - a decision in which then-Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger was involved, the statement said. It said officials believe it was known the therapy was related to suspected "sexual relations with boys." However, it says a lower-ranking official - vicar general Gerhard Gruber - then allowed him to help in pastoral work in Munich. The archdiocese says there were no accusations against the chaplain relating to his February 1980 to August 1982 spell in Munich. However, he was convicted of sexually abusing minors during a stint in nearby Grafing between September 1982 and 1985. The conviction in 1986 resulted in an 18-month suspended prison sentence and a fine of 4,000 marks, now worth nearly $2,800, the archdiocese said. Gruber told The Associated Press by telephone Friday that he was in sole charge of staffing decisions and that Benedict would not have been aware of his decision because the case load was too big. 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APTN APEX 03-12-10 1344EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Thailand Protest 2 Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:Thailand Protest 2- REPLAY Anti-government 'red shirts' arriving for weekend rally to force elex LENGTH: 01:14 FIRST RUN: 1030 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 639925 DATELINE: Bangkok - 12 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 01:14 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: 1. Wide top shot of crowd of anti-government demonstrators, known as "Red Shirts", travelling on road, on way to military base in Bangkok suburb 2. Vehicle with demonstrators on it going past 3. Man wearing skull mask waving red flag 4. Wide of demonstration leaders on stage on back of vehicle making speech 5. Mid of demonstrators chanting 6. Demonstrators on motorbikes arriving outside army base, pan to guards standing behind barbed wire 7. Wide of army dog handlers with dogs, seen through fence 8. Demonstrators shouting at soldiers through fence 9. Wide of soldiers waving at demonstrators, one soldier waving red bandana in apparent support 10. Demonstrators facing policemen outside base, roll of barbed wire between them 11. Men holding poster depicting Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva as a water monitor lizard (an insult in Thai culture) 12. Wide of gathering outside base 13. Wide of man making speech to crowd 14. Wide of crowd stretched down road STORYLINE : Crowds of anti-government demonstrators gathered outside a military base in a suburb of the Thai government Bangkok on Friday, ahead of a weekend rally which organisers hope will be one of the country's biggest, in an effort to force the Prime Minister to call new elections. Leaders of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship, known as the "Red Shirts" because of their hallmark attire, have vowed to keep their proposed "million-man march" non-violent. Demonstrators started meeting around the country on Friday and planned to converge on the Thai capital on Sunday. On Friday, convoys of buses and pick-up trucks were making their journey from Chiang Mai and other northern provinces of the country, the heartland of the so-called Red Shirt movement, while the government beefed up security in Bangkok. The group's last major protest in Bangkok last April deteriorated into rioting that saw two people killed, more than 120 people injured and buses burned on major thoroughfares. The army was called in to quash the unrest. The Red Shirts include followers of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and other people who oppose the 2006 military coup that toppled him. They believe Abhisit Vejjajiva came to power illegitimately with the connivance of the military and other parts of the traditional Thai ruling class who were fearful of Thaksin's popularity while in office in 2001-2006. Some two dozen foreign embassies have issued travel advisories, including the United States, which urged Americans to stay away from the protests where "violence cannot be ruled out." Some allies of the Red Shirts have openly boasted of armed retribution if the protests are suppressed. The government has advised against panic, while warning of possible sabotage by the Red Shirts. Government supporters claim the Red Shirts will dress up as police and soldiers to shoot demonstrators in order to create martyrs; Red Shirt leaders says provocateurs pretending to be protesters will incite violence to discredit their movement. More than 30-thousand security officials will be deployed around Bangkok and 46-thousand "civilian defence volunteers" are on standby for the rallies, government spokesman said. Red Shirt leaders say they hope up to 600-thousand protesters will turn out. 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APTN APEX 03-12-10 1339EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: India Putin Friday, 12 March 2010 STORY:India Putin- REPLAY Russian PM holds talks with Indian leaders, signs deals LENGTH: 03:28 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Russian/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 639962 DATELINE: New Delhi - 12 Mar 2010 LENGTH: 03:28 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: 1. Wide of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh walking with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, they shake hands 2. Wide of Putin greeting chairperson of Indian Ruling Congress party leader Sonia Gandhi, shaking hands and taking seats 3. Mid of Putin seated 4. Mid of Gandhi seated 5. Indian delegation, pull out to wide of meeting 6. Mid of Russian delegation 7. Mid of Putin walking toward and shaking hands with Indian President Pratibha Patil 8. Putin and Patil walking out of frame 9. Wide of meeting 10. Wide of Russian delegation 11. Pan from mid of Putin to Patil 12. Wide of meeting 13. Putin and Singh walking into signing ceremony, taking seats 14. Wide of ceremony 15. Russian atomic energy chief Sergei Kiriyenko signing documents 16. Secretary of Department of Atomic Energy Srikumar Banerjee signing documents 17. Kiriyenko and Banerjee exchanging documents 18. SOUNDBITE (English) Manmohan Singh, Indian Prime Minister: "There is much that India and Russia can do together to advance global peace and stability and the process of global economic revival. We've agreed to intensify our consultations on Afghanistan and the challenges posed by terrorism and extremism in our region." 19. Wide of ceremony 20. Deputy Director of Federal Space Agency Anatoly Shilov signing documents 21. Officials exchanging agreement on satellite production 22. SOUNDBITE (Russian) Vladimir Putin, Russian Prime Minister: "We talked about our further cooperation in aviation including our joint work on the fifth generation fighter plane. As you know, Russia so far has been working alone on this project. We've advanced considerably and we've launched the fifth generation fighter jet. We are convinced our joint efforts will yield considerable results. In that respect, we would like you to know that the Russian Federation, unlike many countries in the world, does not have any military technical cooperation with Pakistan because we bear in mind the concerns of our Indian friends. We sincerely hope that our joint efforts to counter terrorism will yield positive substantive results for the benefit of the two countries and global community in general." 23. Delegates at ceremony 24. Singh and Putin shaking hands STORYLINE: Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin held talks with Indian leaders on Friday during a day's visit that concluded with the signing of agreements on defence, space and civil nuclear energy cooperation, Indian officials said. Putin, who arrived in New Delhi late on Thursday, held talks with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Indian President Pratibha Patil and ruling Congress party leader Sonia Gandhi. Discussions between Putin and Singh focussed on strengthening the decades-old bilateral ties between the two countries and ways to take them forward as India's burgeoning economy is courted by other players. After talks the two countries signed a raft of agreements. Speaking after the signing ceremony Singh said the two countries were working together to battle extremism and terrorism in the region. Putin said they had discussed including India in an ongoing project to build a next generation fighter jet and plans to work together to counter terrorism. "We are convinced our joint efforts will yield considerable results," Putin said, referring to aviation cooperation. "In that respect, we would like you to know that the Russian Federation, unlike many countries in the world, does not have any military technical cooperation with Pakistan because we bear in mind the concerns of our Indian friends." Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 03-12-10 1340EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM -------------------

AP-APTN-1830 North America Prime News -Final Sunday, 3 January 2010 North America Prime News Yemen US 2 01:51 Part No Access Yemen WRAP US embassy in Yemen closes over al-Qaida threats, Petraeus ++US Yemen 03:25 See Script NEW Talkshows comment on closure of US embassy in Yemen UK Brown 02:08 See Script REPLAY UK, US intensify efforts to tackle threat from Islamist groups in Yemen Jordan Protest 01:08 AP Clients Only REPLAY Protest at Egyptian embassy against Gaza blockade Lebanon Protest 01:14 AP Clients Only REPLAY Clerics stage sit-in to protest building of steel wall around Gaza Mideast Torture 03:13 AP Clients Only REPLAY Hamas inmates say torture ends in West Bank jails Afghan Cabinet 2 02:54 AP Clients Only WRAP Reax to rejection of Afghan cabinet,Abdullah, UN, vox pop Iran Opposition 01:44 NO ACCESS IRAN/BBC PERSIAN TV/VOA PERSIAN TV REPLAY Iran's judiciary chief and interior minister on opposition Turkey Train 00:32 No Access Turkey/ROJ TV REPLAY Two trains collide in northwestern Turkey, 1 dead, 7 injured Germany Plane 01:58 No Access Germany REPLAY Air Berlin plane comes off runway, no injuries ++UAE Building 03:14 AP Clients Only NEW Preview of opening of world's tallest building B-u-l-l-e-t-i-n begins at 1830 GMT. APEX 01-03-10 1356EST -----------End of rundown----------- AP-APTN-1830: Yemen US 2 Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Yemen US 2- WRAP US embassy in Yemen closes over al-Qaida threats, Petraeus LENGTH: 01:51 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: Part No Access Yemen TYPE: Natsound/Part Mute SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/YEMEN TV STORY NUMBER: 632115 DATELINE: San'a - 2/3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 01:51 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY YEMEN TV - NO ACCESS YEMEN ++AUDIO AND VIDEO QUALITY AS INCOMING++ ++PART MUTE++ SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 1230 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 3 JANUARY 2010) AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY 3 January 2010 1. Wide of U.S. embassy with road block 2. Mid of road block 3. Yemeni army soldier in foreground, U.S. flag flying from embassy building in background 4. Mid of U.S. flag 5. Wide of U.S. flag on embassy building 6. Various of newspapers front pages covering U.S. General David Petraeus' visit to San'a 7. Man reading newspaper at kiosk 8. Close up of newspaper (FIRST RUN 1630 EUROPE PRIME NEWS - 3 JANUARY 2010) YEMEN TV - NO ACCESS YEMEN 2 January 2010 ++MUTE++ 9. Wide of meeting between U.S. General David Petraeus, who oversees the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and U.S. officials and Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh and Yemeni officials 10. Mid of Saleh 11. Mid of Petraeus 12. Saleh and Petraeus during meeting 13. Various of U.S. officials at meeting 14. More of Saleh and Petraeus during meeting 15. U.S. officials 16. Saleh 17. Various Yemeni officials 18. Wide of meeting STORYLINE: The United Sates and Britain closed their embassies in Yemen on Sunday, citing ongoing threats by the al-Qaida group that has been linked to the failed attempt to bomb a Detroit-bound U.S. airliner on Christmas Day. The confrontation with al-Qaida's offshoot in Yemen has gained new urgency since the 23-year-old Nigerian accused in the attack, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, told U.S. investigators he received training and instructions from the group's operatives in Yemen. U.S. President Barack Obama said on Saturday that the al-Qaida offshoot was behind the attempt. White House counterterrorism chief John Brennan said the American Embassy, which was attacked twice in 2008, was shut Sunday because of "indications al-Qaida is planning to carry out an attack against a target inside of San'a, possibly our embassy." A statement on the embassy's Web site announcing the closure did not say how long it would remain closed. In London, Britain's Foreign Office said its embassy was closed for security reasons. It said officials would decide later whether to reopen it on Monday. The closure comes as Washington is dramatically stepping up aid to Yemen to fight al-Qaida, which has built up strongholds in remote parts of the impoverished, mountainous nation where government control outside the capital is weak. Over the weekend, General David Petraeus, the U.S. general who oversees the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, announced that Washington this year will more than double the 67 (m) million US dollars in counterterrorism aid that it provided Yemen in 2009. On Saturday, Petraeus met with Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh in San'a to discuss coordination in the fight against al-Qaida. Britain announced Sunday that Washington and London will fund a counterterrorism police unit in Yemen. Britain will also host a high-level international conference on January 28 to come up with an international strategy to counter radicalisation in Yemen. The U.S. also provided intelligence and other help to back two Yemeni air and ground assaults on al-Qaida hide-outs last month, reported to have killed more than 60 people. Yemeni authorities said more than 30 suspected militants were among the dead. Al-Qaida fighters have dramatically increased their presence in Yemen over the past year, taking advantage of the San'a government's weak control over much of the country. Tribes hold sway over large areas, and many of them are discontented with the central government and have given refuge to al-Qaida fighters, both Yemenis and other Arabs coming from Saudi Arabia or war zones in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yemen, the ancestral homeland of Osama bin Laden, was the scene of the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, and in the years after the September 11, 2001, attacks in the United States, the Yemeni government worked with Washington to crack down on al-Qaida figures on its soil. But the militant group has rallied, announcing in January 2009 the creation of Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, grouping fighters from Yemen and neighbouring Saudi Arabia. The Yemeni government, meanwhile, has been tied down battling two separate internal rebellions in the north and south. The various conflicts and the country's poverty and lack of resources have raised fears that instability could deepen. There have been a spate of assaults on the U.S. Embassy in Yemen. In an attack in September 2008, gunmen and two vehicles packed with explosives attacked the U.S. embassy, killing 19 people, including an 18-year-old American woman and six militants. None of those killed or wounded were U.S. diplomats or embassy employees. Al-Qaida in Yemen claimed responsibility. In March 2008, three mortars missed the U.S. Embassy and crashed into a high school for girls nearby, killing a security guard. In March 2003, two people were shot dead and dozens more were wounded as police clashed with demonstrators trying to storm the embassy. Last January, gunmen in a car exchanged fire with police at a checkpoint near the embassy, hours after the embassy received threats of a possible attack by al-Qaida. Nobody was injured. In April, embassy personnel were put on a one-week lockdown, barred from leaving their homes or the embassy after al-Qaida suicide bombings that targeted South Korean visitors. As recently as July, security was upgraded in San'a after intelligence reports warned of attacks planned against the U.S. Embassy. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1331EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++US Yemen Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:++US Yemen- NEW Talkshows comment on closure of US embassy in Yemen LENGTH: 03:25 FIRST RUN: 1730 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: English/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION/ABC STORY NUMBER: 632119 DATELINE: Washington DC, 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 03:25 SHOTLIST: ABC "This Week" - No Access North America/Internet ++Mandatory Courtesy "ABC - This Week"++ 1. Two shot of host and Brennan 2. SOUNDBITE (English) John Brennan, US President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser "Looked at the intelligence that is available as far as the plans for al-Qaida to carry out an attacks in San'a, possibly against our embassy, possibly against US personnel. Decided it was the prudent thing to do to shut the Embassy but we're working very closely with the Yemeni authorities to address the threat that is out there. But again, it just demonstrates that al-Qaida is determined to carry out these attacks and we're determined to thwart those attacks." 3. SOUNDBITE (English) John Brennan, US President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser We've provided equipment, training, we're cooperating very closely. So this is something that we've known about for a while but we're determined to destroy al-Qaida whether it's in Pakistan, Afghanistan or in Yemen and we will get there." 4. Two shot of host and Brennan 5. SOUNDBITE (English) John Brennan, US President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser "First of all there was no single piece of intelligence, a smoking gun if you will, that said that Mr. Abdulmutallab was going to carry out this attack against that aircraft." 6. Two shot of host and Brennan 7. SOUNDBITE (English) John Brennan, US President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser "All of the information was shared, except that there are millions upon millions of bits of data that come in on a regular basis. What we need to do is to make sure that the system is robust enough that we can bring that information to the surface that really is a threat, concern. We need to make the system stronger, that is what the President is determined to do." 8. Two shot of host and Brennan 9. SOUNDBITE (English) John Brennan, US President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser "In this one instance the system didn't work. There were some human errors, there were some lapses. We need to strengthen it." 10. Three shot of host with remote of congressionals 11. SOUNDBITE: (English) Representative Peter Hoekstra, Republican, Michigan: "It's unique because the core group of al-Qaida on the Arabian Peninsula is formed by former Gitmo (Guantanamo) detainees. These are people that were held in Gitmo and have been returned and have now gone back to the battlefield. The other element there is the influence of a charismatic American radical imam. So you put the Gitmo folks together, you put Awlaki (Yemen-based radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki) together, these people have moved an attack on the US homeland to the top of their priority list." AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY 12. Wide of Lieberman walking to podium 13. SOUNDBITE: (English) US Senator Joseph Lieberman, Independent, Connecticut: "And all three were connected to Yemen so we've picked up the pace of our operations in support of the Yemeni government against the terrorists in Yemen and we've got to do that or Yemen will become the next Iraq and Afghanistan and we don't want that to happen." 14. Two shot at podium 15. SOUNDBITE: (English) U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman, Independent, Connecticut: "I think that one of the shocking facts about al-Qaida in Yemen is that some of its leaders are people that we have previously captured and we're holding at Guantanamo. We released them back to the Saudis for rehabilitation, they were sent back to Yemen. In some cases they were put back into prison and they broke out. It's fair to say that too much of the leadership of al-Qaida in Yemen was previously in a prisoner of war camp in the United States of America and this leads me to say, to appeal to the Obama administration to reconsider any decisions that have been made to send prisoners of war that we are holding at Guantanamo back to Yemen because the odds are that they will end up in the fight against us planning attacks on the United States of America. So I think it would be truly irresponsible for us, America, to send prisoners of war that we hold now at Guantanamo back to Yemen." 16. Wide as Lieberman walks away from podium STORYLINE: US intelligence agencies did not miss a "smoking gun" that could have prevented an alleged attempt to blow up a US airliner on Christmas Day, President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser said on Sunday. Speaking on "This Week" talk show, White House aide John Brennan cited "lapses" and "errors" in the sharing of intelligence and clues about the Nigerian man accused in the foiled attempt. John Brennan said "there was no single piece of intelligence, a smoking gun if you will, that said that Mr. Abdulmutallab was going to carry out this attack against that aircraft." Brennan is leading a White House review of the incident. Obama has said there was a systemic failure to prevent the attack, which he said was instigated by an affiliate in Yemen of the al-Qaida militant network. Obama ordered a thorough look at the shortcomings that permitted the plot, which failed not because of U.S. actions but because the would-be attacker was unable to ignite an explosive device. Also on "This Week" lawmakers alleged that some released Guantanamo detainees have returned to Yemen where Abdulmutallab is believed to have received training from al-Qaida before carrying out his failed attack. "I think that one of the shocking facts about al-Qaida in Yemen is that some of its leaders are people that we have previously captured and we're holding at Guantanamo," U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman said. "It's fair to say that too much of the leadership of al-Qaida in Yemen was previously in a prisoner of war camp in the United States of America," he added. Brennan said officials will continue reviewing the cases of Yemeni detainees at Guantanamo and decide whether they should be sent home. Obama has promised to close the detention facility. About half of the 90 Yemeni detainees in Guantanamo are scheduled to be sent back to Yemen at some point. The New York Times reported last Tuesday that the government had intelligence from Yemen before Christmas that leaders of a branch of al-Qaida there were talking about "a Nigerian" being prepared for an attack. The newspaper said the information did not include the name of the Nigerian. Intelligence officials would not confirm whether those conversations involved Yemen-based radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, but other US government officials said there were initial indications that he was involved. Al-Awlaki reportedly corresponded by e-mail with Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who is charged with killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, on November 5. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1347EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: UK Brown Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:UK Brown- REPLAY UK, US intensify efforts to tackle threat from Islamist groups in Yemen LENGTH: 02:08 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: See Script TYPE: English/Nat SOURCE: BBC STORY NUMBER: 632104 DATELINE: London - 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 02:08 ++CLIENTS PLEASE NOTE: NO CUTAWAYS PROVIDED, SOUNDBITES ISOLATED WITH BLACK IN BETWEEN++ BBC - NO ACCESS UK / MANDATORY COURTESY 'ANDREW MARR SHOW - BBC 1'. TWO MINUTE MAXIMUM USAGE SHOTLIST 1. SOUNDBITE: (English) Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister: "Yeah, this is a new threat, a new type of threat, and it's from a new source, which is obviously Yemen, but there are many other potential sources, like Somalia, as well as Afghanistan and Pakistan. First of all, in airports, people will see gradually being brought in the use of full body scanners. They will see checks for explosive traces, that will be done on hand luggage. Transit passengers will also be checked as well as transfer passengers. And we will do everything in our power to tighten up on the security that is essential." 2. Black 3. SOUNDBITE: (English) Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister: "I think we've got to also get back to the source of this, and that is Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, and we've got to recognise that we've got a group of young people who have been radicalised as a result of teaching by extreme clerics, and we've got to recognise that we're fighting a battle for hearts and minds here as much as everything else. We will work with the American authorities, as General Petraeus is in Yemen at the moment, we'll work with them to improve the counter terrorism of the Yemeni authorities, working in what I think Michael Portillo rightly described as a failing state, and therefore we've got to be very careful who we're supporting and what we're giving them support to do." 4. Black 5. SOUNDBITE: (English) Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister: "We've been working with the Americans to strengthen counter-terrorism cooperation in Yemen. Yemen has been recognised, like Somalia, to be one of the areas where we've got to not only keep an eye on but we've got to do more. So it's strengthening counter-terrorism cooperation, it's working harder on the intelligence efforts, and of course it's this same thing that I'm talking about, which is I think going to become a feature of this decade: how we can prevent the perversion of a good religion, Islam, by a group of people who will stop at nothing in a murderous ideology that tries to create a caliphate, tries to create a sense that everybody is an enemy except those people who believe in a particular version of Islam." 6. Black STORYLINE Britain and the United States are assisting a counter-terror police unit in Yemen amid fears of an increasing threat of international terrorism emanating from the country, the British government said on Sunday. In an interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr, Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK had been working with the Americans to strengthen their counter-terrorism cooperation in Yemen because the country "has been recognised, like Somalia, to be one of the areas where we've got to not only keep an eye on." Brown's office said that he and US President Barack Obama agreed to "intensify joint US-UK work to tackle the emerging terrorist threat from both Yemen and Somalia" in the wake of the failed Detroit terror plot. "This is a new threat, a new type of threat, and it's from a new source, which is obviously Yemen, but there are many other potential sources, like Somalia, as well as Afghanistan and Pakistan," Brown told the BBC in the interview. He added that tighter security measures at airports would be put in place such as the use of full body scanners, and checks for explosive traces on hand luggage. Both transit and transfer passengers will be checked, the British Prime Minister said. The US embassy in Yemen meanwhile closed on Sunday, citing ongoing threats by the al-Qaida branch that has been linked to the failed Christmas Day bombing attempt of a US airliner headed to Detroit. The embassy would not say if there was a specific threat. The confrontation with the group's branch in Yemen, at the tip of the Arabian Peninsula, has gained new urgency since the 23-year-old Nigerian accused in the attack, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, told US investigators he received training and instructions from al-Qaida operatives in Yemen. Obama said on Saturday that al-Qaida's branch in Yemen was behind the attempt. Downing Street said that Britain is already helping to train Yemeni counter-terrorism officials, but a UK government spokeswoman said this is the first time the counter-terrorism police units have been confirmed. In Washington, a senior administration official said American and British forces already provide the Yemeni police counter-terrorism assistance, and that he's unaware of any new joint effort that is ready to be announced. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters. Asked to clarify, the UK government spokeswoman said the initiatives in Yemen are part of ongoing work between the UK and the US and that the cost of the counter-terrorism police unit will be met by existing funding commitments to Yemen. The spokeswoman said Britain is forecast to give more than 100 million (m) pounds (161 million (m) US dollars) to Yemen in 2011. The spokeswoman, speaking on condition on anonymity in line with UK government policy, was unable to say how long Britain had been working on initiatives in Yemen. Brown called last week for a high-level international meeting later this month to devise ways to counter radicalisation in Yemen. Downing Street said the government of Yemen had been consulted over the decision to boost the country's coast guard and police operations. The White House said Washington stands ready to work with allies to fight extremism. The official welcomed Brown's move earlier to lead an international conference on January 28 to devise ways to counter radicalisation in the country, the poorest in the Arab world. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1333EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Jordan Protest Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Jordan Protest- REPLAY Protest at Egyptian embassy against Gaza blockade LENGTH: 01:08 FIRST RUN: 1530 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Arabic/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 632114 DATELINE: Amman, 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 01:08 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: 1. Pan of protesters chanting slogans 2. Wide of veiled women chanting pro-Hamas slogans 3. Pan left of protesters holding banners reading (Arabic) "Stop building the wall" 4. Close up of poster depicting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak with the Star of David printed on the picture 5. Women chanting 6. SOUNDBITE: (Arabic) Abeer Al Jammal, Protester: "He (President Mubarak) is trying to justify building the wall. What he is doing is a terrorist act. Building the wall is worse than Israeli terrorism." 7. Various of protesters chanting, holding Palestinian flags 8. Protestors setting fire to Mubarak poster 9. Mid of anti-riot police 10. Street blocked by Jordan's police 11. Pan right of protest STORYLINE: Some 100 people including members of professional unions, leftists and Muslim activists, held a sit-in in front of the Egyptian embassy on Sunday to protest against the Gaza blockade and Egypt's decision to build an underground iron wall along its border with the Palestinian territory. Protesters shouted slogans against Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, accusing him of partnering with Israel against the Palestinian people. One protester, Abeer Al Jammal described Mubarak's decision to build the wall as "worse than Israeli terrorism." Police arrested one protester and blocked all the streets to the embassy. Gaza has been frozen in place in the year since Israel battered the territory with bombs and bullets to subdue Hamas, with entire neighbourhoods of wrecked buildings and traumatised residents unable to rebuild their lives. Egypt has been digging trenches and installing metal sheets underground along its border with Gaza in an apparent attempt to curb smuggling into the Palestinian territory through tunnels. The project appears to be one of a series of measures Egypt has taken, some of them in cooperation with the United States, to crack down on smuggling since the end of Israel's war on Hamas-ruled Gaza last winter. Israel says the tunnels are a key route for funnelling weapons and explosives to the Palestinian militant group Hamas and were a main target of its offensive. The tunnels are also used for smuggling food, medicine, electronics and construction material not otherwise available due to a blockade imposed on Gaza by Egypt and Israel after the Islamic militant group Hamas seized power over the tiny coastal territory in 2007. Egypt has been sharply criticised by Arab and Muslim groups for cooperating with Israel in blockading the 1.4 (m) million residents of the impoverished Gaza Strip for more than two years. Gazans infuriated and frustrated by the blockade blasted holes in a concrete and metal border wall in 2008 and tens of thousands of Palestinians streamed across the border into Egypt unchecked for about a week. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1344EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Lebanon Protest Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Lebanon Protest- REPLAY Clerics stage sit-in to protest building of steel wall around Gaza LENGTH: 01:14 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Arabic/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 632107 DATELINE: Beirut - 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 01:14 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST 1. Wide of demonstrators in front of the Egyptian embassy 2. Mid of Jama'a Islamic clerics 3. Various of demonstrators 4. Mid of women carrying Islamic flags 5. Mid of Egyptian flag 6. SOUNDBITE: (Arabic) Mohammad Al Hout, Jamaa Islamiya member of parliament: "The sit in here today is a direct and clear message to the Egyptian government and regime, this steel wall which they started to build is to impose the siege on Gaza people and it will achieve what the Israelis want." 7. Mid of riot police STORYLINE Clerics from a Sunni Islamist political party staged a sit in in front of the Egyptian Embassy on Sunday to protest against Egypt's decision to build an underground iron wall on its border with the Gaza Strip. The demonstrators called on the Egyptian government to stop building the wall. Mohammad Al Hout, a Jamaa Islamiya member of parliament said the wall would only "achieve what the Israelis want." Gaza has been frozen in place in the year since Israel battered the territory with bombs and bullets to subdue Hamas, with entire neighbourhoods of wrecked buildings and traumatised residents unable to rebuild their lives. Egypt has been digging trenches and installing metal sheets underground along its border with Gaza in an apparent attempt to curb smuggling into the Palestinian territory through tunnels. The project appears to be one of a series of measures Egypt has taken, some of them in cooperation with the United States, to crack down on smuggling since the end of Israel's war on Hamas-ruled Gaza last winter. Israel says the tunnels are a key route for funnelling weapons and explosives to the Palestinian militant group Hamas and were a main target of its offensive. The tunnels are also used for smuggling food, medicine, electronics and construction material not otherwise available due to a blockade imposed on Gaza by Egypt and Israel after the Islamic militant group Hamas seized power over the tiny coastal territory in 2007. Egypt has been sharply criticised by Arab and Muslim groups for cooperating with Israel in blockading the 1.4 (m) million residents of the impoverished Gaza Strip for more than two years. Gazans infuriated and frustrated by the blockade blasted holes in a concrete and metal border wall in 2008 and tens of thousands of Palestinians streamed across the border into Egypt unchecked for about a week. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 01-03-10 1334EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Mideast Torture Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Mideast Torture- REPLAY Hamas inmates say torture ends in West Bank jails LENGTH: 03:13 FIRST RUN: 1630 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Arabic/English/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 632113 DATELINE: Ramallah/Nablus, Recent LENGTH: 03:13 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: Nablus - 30 December 2009 1. Wide of Jneid prison 2. Mid of guard at Jneid prison 3. Guard unlocking prison door 4. Mid of prisoner in cell 5. Guard unlocking cell door 6. Mid of prisoners eating 7. Food laid out on floor 8. SOUNDBITE: (Arabic) Ayman Hamad, inmate at Jneid prison "The interrogations were savage. It's a crime, look at my head." (Question: What has changed?) "There are fewer beatings. There are only some violations here and there." 9. Prisoners in cell 10. Mid of prisoners praying in cell 11. Prisoners praying in corridor 12. Close up of prisoner Ramallah - 31 December 2009 13. Establishing shot of Mahmoud Ramahi, legislator and Hamas leader in the West Bank 14. SOUNDBITE: (Arabic) Mahmoud Ramahi, legislator and Hamas leader in the West Bank "After all the complaints that we received about the interrogations and following strong articles in the foreign media, there were orders from the Palestinian Authority to stop those kinds of interrogations. Those orders started on October 1, three months ago. After that, we noticed that the torture cases were less." Nablus - 30 December 2009 15. Pan left from men sitting on bed to other side of cell 16. Tilt down of kitchen area of cell 17. Mid of door to isolation cell 18. Mid of isolation cell Ramallah - 1 January 2010 19. Establishing shot of Mamdouh al-Aker, head of Independent Commission for Human Rights 20. SOUNDBITE: (English) Mamdouh al-Aker, head of Independent Commission for Human Rights "There are some very sporadic cases, having said that, there are some sporadic cases that we are following it up and we will not be satisfied unless we feel that first of all that the torture issue is closed completely." Nablus - 30 December 2009 21. Wide of hall being renovated 22. Mid of new bathroom 23. Mid of worker renovating 24. Pan right from picture of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to exit STORYLINE Palestinian security forces in the West Bank have stopped torturing Hamas prisoners, ending two years of systematic abuse, Hamas inmates told The Associated Press in jailhouse interviews. The change in practice, said to have taken effect in October, was confirmed by a West Bank Hamas leader, human rights activists and the Palestinian prime minister. It defuses a potential problem for Washington since the U.S. has been closely involved in training Palestinian troops under the control of Western-backed President Mahmoud Abbas, a rival of the Hamas militants. Hamas legislators and human rights researchers said they still get sporadic reports of prisoners being slapped or forced to stand for several hours during interrogation. And security forces continue to keep a close watch on Hamas activities, often arresting activists and holding them for lengthy periods without charge. However, they said the worst abuses - prisoners beaten with clubs and cables, suspended from the ceiling while tied up in painful positions and forced to stand for days - have ended. Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad confirmed a "dramatic change for the better" in West Bank prisons and said 43 officers have been jailed, fired or demoted for abusing prisoners. In an interview, he denied torture was ever official policy, but acknowledged past "excesses" that he said stemmed from a flawed culture of revenge. President Abbas' security forces, dominated by supporters of his Fatah movement, have been clamping down on Hamas in the West Bank since June 2007, when the Islamic militants wrested control of the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian leader. Since then, some 4,000 Hamas followers were arrested in the West Bank, and 500 are currently in detention, according to Hamas. Just two weeks ago, dozens of Hamas supporters were detained during the group's anniversary celebrations. In Gaza, Hamas has rounded up hundreds of Fatah supporters, who also have complained of severe mistreatment. Hamas and Fatah have failed to reconcile, despite many rounds of Egyptian-brokered mediation. However, Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal said in a visit to Saudi Arabia on Sunday that significant progress has been made in reconciliation talks. In the West Bank, persistent reports of abuse emerged over the past two years from prisons and interrogation centers. Since 2007, eight detainees have died in West Bank lockups and 15 in Gaza, human rights researchers say, though circumstances in some cases remain murky. The abuse was driven both by a desire to take revenge for the Gaza takeover and by fear that Hamas would seize control of the West Bank, said Salah Mousa, a human rights activist and former member of the Palestinian security forces. The worst accounts of abuse came from those held at Jneid Prison, a barbed wire-topped jumble of low buildings in Nablus, a former Hamas stronghold. Last week, an AP team was granted access to the prison, including the wing holding 40 Hamas prisoners. Officials unlocked the metal cell doors on both sides of a hallway and bearded inmates in track suits stepped out. With wardens out of earshot, inmates described past abuse and said it has largely stopped. An inmate at Jneid, 38-year-old shopkeeper Ayman Hamad, leaned forward to show a deep scar on the bald crown of his head, where he said he was clubbed by a security officer a year ago. "Now things are much better. Beating has stopped, except for some violations here and there," such as slapping, Hamad said. Other inmates said interrogation still involves being forced to stand, sometimes for several hours. In the Military Intelligence section of the prison, three windowless isolation cells, each the size of a parking space, are still used at times to hold and pressure those under interrogation, prisoners said. Wardens insisted the cells are only used to punish those breaking prison rules. The AP was not granted access to the interrogation area. However, Hamas officials who debrief released Hamas prisoners said security agents have stopped abusing prisoners. "Torture has stopped, following strong articles in the foreign media and threats by human rights organisations of suing Palestinian Authority officials," said Mahmoud Ramahi, a Hamas leader in the West Bank and a leading critic of the security forces in the past. Two leading Palestinian rights groups, Al Haq and the Independent Palestinian Commission for Human Rights, both confirmed the abuse has stopped. Al Haq said lesser violations persist, such as denying prisoners blankets for days at a time, but the phenomenon is not widespread. Human rights activists say many of the government's measures remain problematic, such as holding Hamas supporters for long periods without charge and firing civil servants believed to be sympathetic to the group. But in Jneid Prison, life is getting a little better. The cells are still grimy and crowded, with prisoners sleeping in metal bunk beds. But last month, each cell got a TV, and lawyers and relatives are now allowed to visit once a week, compared with restricted access in the past. For some of the Muslim prayers, the inmates step out of their cells and kneel on mats on the floor in the hallway. In the past, they were unable to worship as a large group and had to pray in their cells. One of the second-floor tracts is being renovated, with new tiles and wall paint, and hot water boilers have been installed. The human rights groups say their public pressure campaigns helped to persuade the government to change its ways. U.S. President Barack Obama's no-torture position also may have been a factor, though Palestinian officials deny that. U.S. officials wouldn't comment, noting that they do not train the forces accused of past torture. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1335EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Afghan Cabinet 2 Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Afghan Cabinet 2- WRAP Reax to rejection of Afghan cabinet,Abdullah, UN, vox pop LENGTH: 02:54 FIRST RUN: 1330 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: Dari/Eng/Nat SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 632111 DATELINE: Kabul - 2/3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 02:54 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST: (FIRST RUN 1330 NEWS UPDATE - 3 JANUARY 2010) 3 January 2010 1. Wide shot of road in central Kabul with traffic 2. Various of Afghans walking in central Kabul 3. Mid of newsstand 4. Various of The Kabul Times newspaper front cover with headline reading (English) "The House of People Votes to the Nominee Ministers" 5. Set up shot of UN Spokesman in Afghanistan Aleem Siddique walking towards UNAMA (United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan) sign 6. SOUNDBITE: (English) Aleem Siddique, Spokesman, UNAMA (United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan): "Afghanistan is a country in conflict that faces multiple challenges and there is a need to have a functioning cabinet as soon as possible. We hope that the president working closely with the parliament, they will be able to iron out these differences, so that we can have these key cabinet positions approved as soon as possible, so we can get on and push ahead with meeting some of the crucial challenges that both the Afghan people and the international community want us to meet over the coming months and years." (FIRST RUN 0930 AMERICAS PRIME NEWS - 3 JANUARY 2010) 2 January 2010 7. Various shots of Afghan Parliament members voting for cabinet ministers 8. Mid of lawmakers (FIRST RUN 1330 NEWS UPDATE - 3 JANUARY 2010) 3 January 2010 9. Afghan member of parliament voting 10. Set up shot of former presidential candidate and former Foreign Minister, Abdullah Abdullah 11. SOUNDBITE: (English) Abdullah Abdullah, former presidential candidate and former Foreign Minister: "I think that shows a bad choice by the president and I think it was for the first time that the parliament of Afghanistan has taken a very serious stand in regards to the cabinet. Those who have been elected, also the picture doesn't show that they have been elected or confirmed because of their merits, there were a lot of other issues of dealing and wailing, but as a whole I think it was a vote of rejection for Mr Karzai's choice." 12. Various shots of Kabul residents in the streets 13. SOUNDBITE: (Dari) Sayed Naeem, Kabul resident, Vox Pop: "The ministers who were rejected from the list of 24 nominees, we can't say that they were all bad, there were some good and deserving nominees as well who could work and we are saddened for their rejection." 14. People in a street of Kabul 15. Wide shot of road in central Kabul with traffic STORYLINE: A spokesman for the United Nations in Afghanistan said on Sunday that he was hoping the Afghan president and the parliament would work closely to "iron out" their differences in order for the country to "have a functioning cabinet as soon as possible." Aleem Siddique was speaking after Afghanistan's parliament dealt a stinging rebuke to president Hamid Karzai on Saturday by rejecting 70 percent of his nominees for a new cabinet, including a regionally powerful warlord and the country's only female minister. In ten hours of voting Saturday, parliament rejected nominees viewed as Karzai's political cronies, those believed to be under the influence of warlords and others deemed unqualified. The vote was a setback to the president, although lawmakers did approve his retention of incumbents in the key portfolios of defence, interior and finance. Karzai will submit new nominations for the empty ministerial posts, Afghan presidential spokesman Waheed Omar said Sunday, but it was not clear when. Siddique said it was urgent to "have these key cabinet positions approved as soon as possible, so we can get on and push ahead with meeting some of the crucial challenges that both the Afghan people and the international community want us to meet over the coming months and years." Abdullah Abdullah, former presidential candidate and former Foreign Minister, said on Sunday he believed that the decision by lawmakers to reject 70 percent of the president's Cabinet nominees showed "a bad choice by the president." "The picture doesn't show that they have been elected or confirmed because of their merits, there were a lot of other issues of dealing and wailing, but as a whole I think it was a vote of rejection for Mr Karzai's choice," Abdullah said. Sayed Naeem, a Kabul resident said he was "saddened" by the rejection of some of the nominees because not all of them deserved to be rejected. The laborious voting that took much of Saturday ended with the rejection of 17 of 24 nominees. The nominations, announced in mid-December, aimed to keep 12 current ministers in their posts for a second term. The new Cabinet is a bellwether for the U.S. and other nations hoping a stronger government will keep disenchanted Afghans from siding with the Taliban after Karzai won a second five-year term last year in a disputed election rife with ballot-box stuffing. The lawmakers approved a handful of incumbent ministers favoured by the West and instrumental to the war effort. Of the 12 incumbent ministers Karzai sought to retain, the parliament approved only five: Defense Minister Gen. Abdul Rahim Wardak; Interior Minister Hanif Atmar; Finance Minister Omar Zakhilwal; Agriculture Minister Muhammad Asif Rahimi; and Education Minister Ghulam Farooq Wardak. Karzai had wanted to keep Water and Power Minister Ismail Khan, a warlord in Herat province during the civil war of the 1990s who retains considerable local power. Critics said keeping Khan proved Karzai remained beholden to regional power brokers at the expense of the country's national interests. Khan's nomination was narrowly defeated. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1337EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Iran Opposition Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Iran Opposition- REPLAY Iran's judiciary chief and interior minister on opposition LENGTH: 01:44 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: NO ACCESS IRAN/BBC PERSIAN TV/VOA PERSIAN TV TYPE: Farsi/Commentary SOURCE: IRIB STORY NUMBER: 632108 DATELINE: Tehran - 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 01:44 IRIB - NO ACCESS IRAN/BBC PERSIAN TV/VOA PERSIAN TV ++AP Television is adhering to Iranian law that stipulates all media are banned from providing BBC Persian or VOA Persian any coverage from Iran, and under this law if any media violate this ban the Iranian authorities can immediately shut down that organisation in Tehran.++ SHOTLIST: 1. IRIB newsreader 2. Wide of the judiciary official meeting 3. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) Sadeq Larijani, judiciary chief: "God willing, the judiciary system will never neglect its duties and will strongly and swiftly pursue these recent issues. This group took an improper and despicable action, in fact, they don't protest the issue of the election but they are against the foundation of the system and the judiciary will strongly and rapidly look into this case." 4. Mid of Sadeq Larijani, judiciary chief, and his deputies sitting down 5. Wide of Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, Iran's Interior Minister among reporters 6. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, Iran's Interior Minister: "We will strongly crush every kind of rioting. We have ordered the police that from now on, they should have no clemency at all and if some people stage a gathering or accompany rioters, the police must strongly crush them." 7. Najjar among reporters 8. SOUNDBITE (Farsi) Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, Iran's Interior Minister: "The dream of world arrogance, Americans, the Zionists, hypocrites, monarchists and the domestic hypocrites who have appeared in a new way, will never come true and they will take the dream of returning to this country and taking control of it to their graves." 9. IRIB newsreader STORYLINE: Iran's interior minister warned on Sunday that a harder line will be taken against anti-government protesters. "We have ordered the police that from now on, they should have no clemency at all and if some people stage a gathering or accompany rioters, the police must strongly crush them," Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said in Tehran. Last Sunday at least eight people died during anti-government protests including opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi's nephew. Sadeq Larijani, the judiciary chief said that the rioters were protesting against the founding principles of the regime itself. "They don't protest against the issue of the election but they are against the foundation of the system and the judiciary will strongly and rapidly look into this case," said Larijani. On Friday Mousavi pledged to remain defiant in the face of new threats - including calls by hard-liners for his execution - and said he would sacrifice his life in defence of the people's right to protest peacefully against the government. Mousavi's remarks come after the worst unrest since the immediate aftermath of the disputed June presidential election. The confrontation between clerical rulers and their opponents has returned to the streets in recent weeks, after a harsh crackdown immediately following the June 12 balloting all but crushed the opposition movement. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1338EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Turkey Train Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Turkey Train- REPLAY Two trains collide in northwestern Turkey, 1 dead, 7 injured LENGTH: 00:32 FIRST RUN: 1130 RESTRICTIONS: No Access Turkey/ROJ TV TYPE: Natsound SOURCE: ANATOLIA STORY NUMBER: 632097 DATELINE: Near Bilecik - 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 00:32 ++PLEASE NOTE: CORRECTION IN RESTRICTIONS: NO ACCESS TURKEY/ROJ TV++ ANATOLIA - NO ACCESS TURKEY/ROJ TV SHOTLIST Near Bilecik, Turkey 1. Various of emergency service workers helping injured person next to train 2. Mid of victim in train wreckage 3. Men carrying stretcher with injured person 4. Stretcher being placed in back of ambulance STORYLINE A passenger train crashed head-on into another train in northwestern Turkey on Sunday killing one of the engine drivers and injuring at least seven other people, an official said. The governor of Bilecik, some 250 miles (400 kilometres) south of Istanbul said the accident was caused by an electrical fault that led to a signal failure. The train went through a signal where it should have halted and slammed into another train that was stopped on the line. One driver was killed. The injured included two rail personnel and at least five passengers, said Bilecik's governor, Musa Colak. The trains were travelling in opposite directions between Istanbul and the city of Eskisehir. Turkey's government has been working to improve the country's rail system, which is beset by signalling malfunctions, ill-equipped trains, deteriorating tracks and a lack of barriers at road crossings. In Turkey's worst train accident in recent years, a newly inaugurated high-speed train from Istanbul to Ankara derailed in 2004, killing 37 people and injuring 95 others. 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APTN APEX 01-03-10 1340EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: Germany Plane Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:Germany Plane- REPLAY Air Berlin plane comes off runway, no injuries LENGTH: 01:58 FIRST RUN: 1230 RESTRICTIONS: No Access Germany TYPE: German/Natsound SOURCE: Wiebold TV STORY NUMBER: 632105 DATELINE: Dortmund - 3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 01:58 Wiebold TV - No Access Germany SHOTLIST: 1. Various of damaged Air Berlin plane, with its nose touching the ground, surrounded by emergency services 2. Mid of fire truck 3. Close up of plane's nose touching the ground 4. Pull out from tail of plane with fuel truck behind it 5. Travellers in airport terminal 6. Mid of departures board 7. Travellers queuing at Air Berlin check-in counter 8. SOUNDBITE: (German) Guido Miletic, Dortmund Airport spokesman: "Before taking off the pilot decided to abort the take-off. Then the aircraft rolled off the runway and now stands behind the runway. No passengers and no crew members have been injured. All could get off the plane by the stairs." 9. Wide of bus and vehicles on airport tarmac 10. Wide of damaged plane 11. SOUNDBITE: (German) Guido Miletic, Dortmund Airport spokesman: "Air Berlin will wait until the Federal Air Transport Authority has examined what is likely to have happened technically. We do not have specific background information on this." 12. Snow plough truck clearing path around an undamaged Air Berlin plane on airport tarmac 13. SOUNDBITE: (German) Guido Miletic, Dortmund Airport spokesman: "Before you allow landing or take-off the runway must have a particular brake resistance. That is much more stringently regulated and safer than on any motorway that you drive on when it is snowy. And at the time when the plane accident happened it was like that. The runway was fully operational." 14. Wide of damaged Air Berlin plane with emergency vehicles around it STORYLINE: Authorities say an Air Berlin plane headed for Spain's Canary Islands has come off the runway at Dortmund airport in western Germany but no one was injured. "Before taking off the pilot decided to abort the take-off. Then the aircraft rolled off the runway and now stands behind the runway," Guido Miletic, a Dortmund Airport spokesman said. Despite the snowy conditions the runway was fully operational at the time of the aborted takeoff he added. The aircraft, with 165 passengers and six crew members on board, braked but came off the runway in wintry conditions. Another airline spokeswoman said the pilot of the Boeing 737-800 had decided to abort the takeoff because of a "technical irregularity" that is still being examined. The spokeswoman said the plane was undamaged and passengers were able to leave the aircraft normally using steps. She added that the passengers and their luggage were being taken to nearby Paderborn airport, from where another aircraft was to fly them to Las Palmas. Dortmund airport said the accident happened at 7:05 a.m. (0605GMT). The airport was closed to allow for the aircraft's recovery, and other flights cancelled or diverted, according to its Web site. Clients are reminded: (i) to check the terms of their licence agreements for use of content outside news programming and that further advice and assistance can be obtained from the AP Archive on: Tel +44 (0) 20 7482 7482 Email: infoaparchive.com (ii) they should check with the applicable collecting society in their Territory regarding the clearance of any sound recording or performance included within the AP Television News service (iii) they have editorial responsibility for the use of all and any content included within the AP Television News service and for libel, privacy, compliance and third party rights applicable to their Territory. APTN APEX 01-03-10 1341EST ------------------- END -- OF -- ITEM ------------------- AP-APTN-1830: ++UAE Building Sunday, 3 January 2010 STORY:++UAE Building- NEW Preview of opening of world's tallest building LENGTH: 03:14 FIRST RUN: 1830 RESTRICTIONS: AP Clients Only TYPE: English/Natsound SOURCE: AP TELEVISION STORY NUMBER: 632117 DATELINE: Dubai, 2/3 Jan 2010 LENGTH: 03:14 AP TELEVISION - AP CLIENTS ONLY SHOTLIST Dubai, United Arab Emirates - January 2, 2010 1. Skyline with sky scrapers, including Burj Dubai building 2. Mid of Burj Dubai on the skyline Dubai, United Arab Emirates - January 3, 2010 3. Various aerials of Burj Dubai and other sky scrapers 4. SOUNDBITE (English) Saud Masud, Head of Research and Senior Analyst, Real Estate at UBS investment Bank in Dubai: "We have to give them credit for an engineering feet and it's also very symbolic, it's the tallest building in the world. It speaks to the economic momentum Dubai has had, for several years now. They have taken bold steps and they have achieved something there. But I think it can also work in reverse, because it puts Dubai on the map in a ironic way because real estate housing downturn, is what is responsible for the current economic down cycle. Burj Dubai is obviously the ultimate symbol of the real estate boom that they have seen. And I don't see the economic down cycle being over in the next few quarters or in the next year or so. So I think the economic challenges or problems will persist in the face of a pretty awesome, I would say, man made structure. But those two ironies will coexist for a while." 5. Tilt down from the top of Burj Dubai to its base 6. Various of construction workers on Burj Dubai site with Emaar sign in the background 7. Close up of a crane with Emar sign on the building 8. Pan from wide of construction site to Burj Dubai 9. Wide of skyline, Burj Dubai on the Sheikh Zayed road 10. Various of Arabian Mall construction on the outskirts of Dubai, site on hold due the financial meltdown 11. Various aerials of the man-made Palm Islands, and The World Islands, construction of which is on hold due to the financial meltdown STORY: Dubai is set to open the world's tallest building amid tight security on Monday, celebrating the tower as a bold feat on the world stage, despite the city state's shaky financial footing. But the final height of the Burj Dubai, Arabic for Dubai Tower, remained a closely guarded secret on the eve of its opening. At more than 2,625 feet (800 metres), it long ago vanquished its nearest rival, the Taipei 101 in Taiwan. The Burj's record-seeking developers didn't stop there. The building boasts the most stories and highest occupied floor of any building in the world, and ranks as the world's tallest structure, beating out a television mast in North Dakota. Its observation deck, on floor 124, also sets a record. Bill Baker, the building's structural engineer, who is in Dubai for the inauguration said the engineers weren't sure how high they could go, and that the process was a learning experience. Baker, of Chicago-based architecture and engineering firm Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, said early designs for the Burj had it edging out the world's previous record-holder, the Taipei 101, by about 33 feet (10 metres). The Taiwan tower rises 1,667 feet (508 metres). The Burj's developer, Emaar Properties, kept pushing the design higher even after construction began, eventually putting it about 984 feet (300 metres) taller than its nearest competitor, Baker said. He is keeping quiet about the exact height. Dubai's ruler will open the tapering metal-and-glass spire with a fireworks display on Monday evening. "We have to give them credit for an engineering feet and it's also very symbolic, it's the tallest building in the world. It speaks to the economic momentum Dubai has had, for several years now," said Saud Masud, the Head of Research and Senior Analyst, Real Estate at UBS investment Bank in Dubai. But the Burj's opening comes at a tough time for Dubai's economy. Property prices in newer parts of the sheikdom have collapsed by nearly half over the past year. The city-state turned to its richer neighbour Abu Dhabi for a series of bailouts totalling 25 billion (b) US dollars in 2009 to help cover debts amassed by a network of state-linked companies. Burj developer Emaar is itself partly owned by the government, but is not among the companies known to have received emergency cash. Emaar has said the entire Downtown Burj Dubai development, which includes the tower, will cost 20 billion (b) US dollars to build. Sales of properties around the Burj are meant to help pay for the tower itself, which analysts say is unlikely to be profitable on its own. Analyst Saud Masud said the Burj also "puts Dubai on the map in a ironic way because real estate housing downturn, is what is responsible for the current economic down cycle." At their peak, some apartments in the Burj were selling for more than 1,900 US dollars per square foot, though they now can go for less than half that, said Heather Wipperman Amiji, chief executive of Dubai real estate consultancy Investment Boutique. Besides luxury apartments and offices, the Burj will be home to a hotel designed by Giorgio Armani. 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INT BROLL HOUSE OVERSIGHT IRS HEARING IRS Targeting Investigation IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testifies before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about the loss of an unknown number of emails related to former IRS official Lois Lerner. Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) chairs the committee. 19:16:02 IRS Commissioner John Koskinen takes seat at witness table; Chmn Darrell Issa gavels Cmte to order 19:16:13 Issa: cmte exists to secure fundamental principles.right to know money is well spent, and Americans deserve efficient govt that works for them. Our duty is to protect these rights. Hold govt accountable to taxpayers. 19:16:44 Our job is to work w/ citizen watchdogs and bring reform to federal bureaucracy. 19:17:08 Cmte meets today as we continue our effort to get the truth and full truth on obstruction by IRS and targeting of Americans b/c of their conservative political beliefs. When IRS commish appeared before this cmte, he promised he would produce all of Lerner's emails. He made promises w/out qualification or limitation. Even reiterated for Ranking Member: (plays video - all of Lerner's emails) 19:19:37 Cummings clip.are you going to provide the documents? (Yes). 19:19:58 Issa returns: requested all of Lerner's emails. Told us he would provide all; requested over a year ago, subpoenaed them in August in order to make clear not being complied with, and new subpoena in Feb 2014 when you came to IRS. 19:20:33 Transparency doesn't tell story. Worked to cover up; struck acknowledgement came two weeks after we found some at DOJ. When looking through emails, did you look at justice dept where she sent 1.1 million documents; some 6103 prohibited documents. Did you ever give courtesy of missing emails; instead staff shared statement to Senate Cmte controlled by president's party. Said it'd take two years; welcome back - hasn't been two years. Did you hope you'd run out the clock? 19:21:55 Perhaps you thought Congress wouldn't realize there were missing emails until we found them at DOJ. I called you to testify b/c the American ppl deserve answers about why you hid from American people for years. Didn't begin on your watch. Missing emails were known by many people who have jobs at IRS today under your predecessor and his predecessor. Should concern all of us. 19:22:52 Federal Records Act envisions that impt documents will be maintained not just for investigation, but for perpetuity for benefit of American people. This event, like Watergate, will be studied by future generations w/out Lerner. Subpoenaed you b/c I'm sick and tired of game-playing. You are president's hand-picked man, you testified under oath in march that you'd produce all emails. You took an oath to tell truth. You didn't tell whole truth that you knew on that day. Gave word to produce all emails, questioning what your word is worth if you can't tell us what you know. Do we have to grill you for days, months with every possible way a question can be asked, or will a meaning of a question prompt a complete answer? 19:24:51 American people have no trust in IRS. American people have never loved IRS. No one loves the organization that takes your taxes, then comes back with huge power over lives. Shouldn't be hard to trust IRS. American people deserve this agency, which was previously nonpartisan, need to trust again that it'll be non-partisan. 19:25:37 American people understand that if they did not do right thing five, six, seven years - disallowed. In fact, you only keep for six months, without safeguards. Commissioner, you'll say you produced thousands of documents. That production is printing, then scratching out. It's not producing documents that embarrass you. It's the docs we receive the night before that often tell us what we waited years for. 19:26:50 Tonight will be difficult. We have a problem with you, you have a problem maintaining your credibility. You promised documents, did not. Candid, did not. Subcmte chmn irritated you b/c you felt he questioned your integrity. I defended you, tonight I wish I could take that back. Say tonight: you belive you earned trust before you came here. I believe you need to earn our trust. Failed, either way American people don't believe IRS dealing fairly with them. 19:27:57 ELIJAH CUMMINGS: Get to the heart of accusation Republicans making the past week. Accused of false testimony, or misleading testimony. Accused of false testimony, committing a crime. What are we really saying? Republicans saying that Lois Lerner intentionally destroyed emails, and IRS officials helped her cover it up. Chmn Issa leading the charge. Here are some of the accusations he's made. June 13, Issa suggested that this was "a nefarious conduct that went much higher than Lois Lerner." On June 18, said emails of prominent official don't just disappear w/out a trace unless that was intention. On June 19, he said Lerner made decision not to have this drive recovered. Just this morning he said the justice Dept and WH are interested in seeing she succeeds in hiding. 19:30:01 Issa made accusations w/out briefing from IT officials at IRS who could explain what happened. Without hearing from Commissioner. He testified at W&M, now that we have facts - vastly different story. Our Cmte has obtained no evidence to support claim that Lerner intentionally destroyed emails. Have now obtained evidence showing the exact opposite, that this was a tech problem w/ her computer. Truth, full truth, nothing but the truth. 19:31:11 In Koskinen, he walked though email through email showing she sought help from IRS, went to great lengths to recover data, couldn't do so. Also testified that IRS took extraordinary steps of sending Lerner hard drive to criminal lab, but even they couldn't recover data. Truth, whole truth, nothing but truth. 19:32:00 Lerner received bad news, 'unfortunately not good; sectors bad, data unrecoverable.' If anyone wants actual evidence, now we have it. Ask that all of these emails from July 19, 20, Aug 1, Aug 5 be entered into record. 19:32:47 Issa: without objection - any Lerner emails 19:32:55 Cummings: these are from 2011, showed her computer crashed before she was informed employees in Cincinnati were using search terms. Take issue w/ why they didn't back up data. IRS policy in 2011 was to recycle after six months to save money. Explained policy was changed in 2013 to save all backup data. Fact is long-standing problems with federal record keeping. Bush administration lost millions of emails on AG, Plame, others. 19:34:12 In 2007, Perino admitted they lost 5 million. Said 'We screwed up, trying to fix it.' There has been some progress, believed we should do more, do better. Introduced Electronic Methods Preservation Act. Although this cmte voted on bipartisan basis, it is language that is dead. House Republicans have declined to bring it to the floor for a vote. Should obtain facts, responsible effort to find truth. Shouldn't be an unseemly race to hold first hearing in front of cameras or hyperbolic soundbytes based on least amount of evidence. 19:35:41 In this case, Republicans have tried to link this scandal to the White House. Sincerely hope we will turn to legislation to help federal agencies run more efficiently. 19:36:07 Issa: in today's briefing, after we sent questions to Commission, said they'd answer orally. When asked Lerner didn't intentionally crashed her hard drive, couldn't say she did or didn't. Nothing in emails - couldn't say. 19:36:48 Cummings: IRS IT official briefed - he reviewed documents; asked if Lerner intentionally crashed harddrive. No reason to believe it. Have no reason. He also told Cmte Lerner wanted to recover. Nothing nefarious about loss of emails. When asked whether anyone aware of intentionally destroying documents, he said absolutely not. 19:38:00 Issa: We sent those 48 hours ago so we wouldn't have long hearing. Likely we'll ask you to come back since briefing didn't address questions. 19:38:28 JIM JORDAN: Then tried to spin it. Lerner w/ planted question tried to spin it, then blame someone else; then said IG report was flawed, now they hide the evidence. Bad guy always says, he denies it, blames someone else. Always says officer - I didn't throw gun in river. This would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. One big difference is bad guy on street doesn't get to have his friends run the investigation. 19:39:45 Fact that ?? is running investigation - big Obama donor, is wrong. Bad guy doesn't get to have his friends run investigation. Here's impt point, I hope that someone in administration will have courage to say time for special prosecutor. Dallas Morning News said it's time for one. Twenty-six Democrats stood up with all Republicans and said it's time. 19:40:47 Hope the guy who heads agency, could show independence and have courage to do what 26 dems said six weeks ago. 19:41:20 GERALD CONNOLLY: Mr. Koskinen, stage is set. This is about theatre. Fair play, presumption of innocence, out the window b/c there's an agenda that presupposes some guilt that is based in part on supposition, on paranoia, on conspiracy theory to fire up base of other party, plays well on right wing media outlets. At expense of the truth, semblance of bipartisan cooperation, at expense of trying to fix problems. You don't think for a minute that part of the solution is to provide the IRS with more resources to address its IT problem. Don't think for a minute that the solution would be more agents to deal w/ backlog, or money left on table owed the govt. 19:43:15 Then we come to your honor. I first met you when we were worried about Y2K back in '98-'99. Worried at stroke of midnight, banking system would collapse, all computer systems would go awry. See an honorable public servant, served R and D administrations and was cited for exemplary service, and integrity and personal honor. Fact that you would be subjected to barrage of innuendo and accusation backed up by nothing for purpose of political theatre is wreckless, disgraceful and brings dishonor to this cmte. 19:44:40 there are a number of us who still respect your integrity and understand this dynamic and willing to call it out for what it is. Hope that doesn't shape your faith and hope you will continue your tenure at IRS to clean up what problems there are and make the IRS a more accessible, accountable and efficient agency. That's why you undertook a thankless assignment. 19:45:27 Issa: Ask that HR 1244 placed into record. Now go to Koskinen, commissioner of IRS. 19:45:45 Koskinen rises to take oath 19:46:00 "I do" 19:46:12 Issa: you certainly have some 'splaning to do.' 19:46:25 JOHN KOSKINEN: IRS made massive document production related to review of tax exempt status as explained by TIGTA. Cmtes have received thousands of documents. As of last Friday, more than 27K emails from Lerner, and 18K emails from which Lerner was author or recipient. Investigators given copies of emails three years ago, so should be clear that nobody was keeping info from Congress 19:47:39 Should get redacted versions - 43K from 2009-May 2013. 67K emails; IRS reviewed email from custodial computer account, limited to search terms and identified possibility of issue, wasn't clear whether emails missing, overlooked, etc. Pointed to computer failure in 2011. As we reviewed additional emails, learned long before. In 2011, IRS tried at Lerner's request to recover information. Series of emails recounts series of events. IRS IT said tech still had drive. After receiving assistance, including from HP experts, still couldn't recover data. 19:49:57 As last resource, sent to criminal investigation, but data unrecoverable. 19:50:18 In light of hard drive issue, IRS took multiple steps, ensured that no emails overlooked, producing as much when Lerner author or recipient. Asked whether other 82 had similar difficulties. Determined last week that several additional may have had failures. Not unusual especially at IRS. Since Jan 1, over 2,000 IRS employees have suffered hard drive crashes. Doesn't mean all emails lost. Still assessing. Some custodians apparently lost no emails at all. What emails outside agency are not in 24K Lerner emails sent to other IRS employees. 19:51:59 Should fill gaps, Treasury IG has begun investigation, his report will provide independent review. Committee to working cooperatively; continue to provide updates. 19:52:27 Issa: Remember Brolio Costilio. Gregory Rosen? No. Costilio was on trial for murdering wife, wrongfully received IT contracts from IRS. Rosen took fifth; see Duckworth asking how his ankle hurts. That time, we rely on ability to recover emails as part of chain of discovery. TIGTA, Russell George relies; tomorrow head of Archives 19:53:46 Question I have is how can we expect you have servers that run Microsoft exchange. Capture every email in or out, local hard drive is only place email existed? 19:54:13 Koskinen: there was email on server, even hard copies has or will be provided to Cmte. 19:54:34 Q: if you were properly backing up, including info she selected to delete; 19:54:52 JK: All emails are not part of fed records act. 19:55:06 Q: you were allowing her to retain emails on C Drive, so six months later, not in possession of them? 19:55:24 JK: no, each is limited to 6,000 emails they can hold and store; Agency doesn't have ability to save all emails. $10-30 million to upgrade system. B/c of budget constraints. 19:56:02 Issa: $1.8 billion is IT budget. Is the retention of key documents that American people need to count on, like being treated fairly, isn't that a priority. 19:56:28 JK: If we had the resources. 19:56:34 Q: If IRS doesn't have resources, it won't keep records. Resources are question of whether you retain documents. 19:56:55 Q: You said you'd tell whole truth. You saw that montage. You knew there was a problem w/ Lerner's emails. 19:57:12 JK: I knew there was an issue that nobody knew the ramifications of 19:57:26 Q: did you know an email was missing? 19:57:32 JK: No, first time I knew emails were lost was in April. 19:57:43 Q: you knew in April, told political appointees? 19:57:54 JK: No 19:57:57 Q: Who'd you tell? 19:58:00 JK: Nobody. 19:58:03 Q: IG? Q: Cause anyone to find out. 19:58:05 JK: No. If you have evidence, I'd love to see it. 19:58:13 Q: Issa: I asked you a question. 19:58:32 JK: I said I'd provide all the emails. Three years ago; never said I'd provide emails we didn't have. 19:59:00 Q: My time has expired, I've lost patience for you 19:59:08 CUMMINGS Questions: resources? 19:59:17 JK: $300 million had to be taken from other IT programs. 19:59:37 Q: Many members of Congress suggested Lerner intentionally crashed computer. But Friday you testified about 2011, emails showing opposite. (shows slide of email). 20:00:51 Q: Later that day, IT said nobody can fix it. (slide); next slide July 20; Aug 1 slide; 20:03:49 Q: are you aware of any evidence - docs, emails, (remind you're under oath). Aware of documents, emails or other info from IT professionals that calls into question the legitimacy of these emails? 20:04:18 JK: No. 20:04:21 Q: When you testified, did you know her emails were lost forever? 20:04:39 JK: No. 20:04:51 JOHN MICA: You're probably the guy at the end of the parade with the broom and shovel. 20:06:35 Q: 27 months? Jan '09 to April '11 20:06:42 Q: came on in December; briefed at beginning of January. Testified today there was a problem recovering some of the emails. 20:07:16 JK: learned issue with emails, problem with dates. 20:07:24 Q: Came to cmte, said thought you completed investigation; didn't hear until a few days ago that hard drive crashed and all of this was unrecoverable. Gave us this testimony in March. 20:08:08 JK: In February, briefed me that subject to search terms, issue with date. 20:08:25 Q: Mica: I gave you benefit of the doubt, conflicts, appears you knew and others knew - Congress wasn't informed until recently. 20:08:46 Q: backup contractor - they were dismissed in 2011, do they have backup? 20:09:21 JK: they were under contract for internal disaster recover program; contract was terminated when IRS chief counsel upgraded to outlook 2010. 20:09:44 Q: backup exist? 2005-2011 20:09:48 JK: for 3000 emails in chief counsel's office 20:10:07 Q: did you ask company for info? 20:10:12 JK: All data is inside IRS. 20:10:18 Q: gone too? 20:10:25 JK: all data has been searched. 20:10:37 ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON: I've been impressed by confidence you've inspired. It's as if they saved you the jobs others couldn't do, have guts to do, or have integrity to do. When agency is in trouble, turn to John Koskinen. Offer you an apology 20:11:31 Believe you deserve one, because of accusations designed to sacrificed the reputation of a public service [sic] w/ spotless reputation without a scintilla of evidence. Vile enough to look a man in the face and accuse perjury without evidence. 20:12:19 Whether it is that Lerner crash occurred well before investigation began. She must be clairvoyant. All the evidence is on your side Mr. Koskinen. Line of conspiracy hunting has shifted with the Lerner crash. For the longest time the line of questioning was about one subject. Moved from one scapegoat - just moved off notion this was all a conspiracy directed on behalf of WH. 20:13:17 Lacking evidence, the crash provides new fodder. Have you identified any evidence that IRS employees before or now were part of conspiracy to target political enemies? 20:13:45 JK: I've done no investigations, read IG's report. Nine recommendations, accept all. Impt for public to be confident all fairly treated by IRS. Should understand they'll be treated fairly. If someone else had that issue. Think it's critical public have that confidence. 20:14:27 EHN Q: onto second conspiracy; do you recall IG also testified when asked evidence of political motivation, he said 'we did not' have evidence. Your strong reputation, character should hold you in good stead as you face faceless accusations. Nothing to worry about. Thank you for extraordinary service. 20:15:27 Issa: Wonder if that quote, we can find Lerner's emails. Would commish stand behind? 20:15:48 EHN: sure he was looking for all; 20:15:57 Issa: her crash came after we began investigating. 20:16:08 EHN: therefore she did what? Nothing to do, shouldn't be accused. 20:16:36 Issa: said all eamils 20:16:43 JK: at time, had no idea whether any of those applied. That's what told in April. Didn't know if anything was true. 20:17:08 Issa: if you know difference in numbers, knew the problem, didn't know details. 20:17:22 EHN: should talk before details? 20:17:30 Issa: know there was some sort of problem. Say so. 20:17:41 EHN: lying when you said you'd find them all? 20:17:49 JK: no. 20:18:04 MIKE TURNER (R-OHIO) Have to understand this discussion goes to confidence and issue of ability to do that, integrity. Back to ethics. You agree that you can't be manager, investigator, judge, jury, of matters. There's inherent conflict and basis. 20:18:49 JK: no sure, I'm in charge, accountable. 20:18:59 Q: no crime committed by Lerner? 20:19:06 JK: no evidence. 20:19:10 Q: I can tell you I have no evidence. I dno't have the agency, the FBI, have them take things that can give that. Just b/c you haven't seen all evidence, can't say no crime. 20:19:34 JK: didn't say no crime. 20:19:38 Q: ability to say no crime committed? 20:19:48 JK: no evidence 20:19:54 Q: of course, but can't say no crime committed. 20:20:00 Q: asserted fifth, fear or prosecution, fear of criminal; you can't testify she has no fear of prosecution, if in process of emails destroyed, there were those in agency that knew crime committed, then they committed a crime. 20:20:46 Q: can't say, can only say 'no evidence' - 20:21:02 JK: no evidence whether she beat dog, children, no evidence. 20:21:19 Q: integrity of agency is at risk. Possibly have people committing crimes, Only way to know is pick up phone, ask FBI to pick up phone and ask them to investigate. 20:21:44 Q: will you call FBI? 20:21:49 JK: at this time, IG;. 20:21:59 Q: not criminal 20:22:04 JK: They have ability. 20:22:09 Q: will you call for investigation. You should call FBI; 20:22:33 JK: not going to call FBI. 20:22:41 Q: issue of your personal integrity. 20:22:48 JK: reject suggestion that my integrity depends on calling FBI. IG will issue report. 20:23:02 Q: believe it was a crime, others involved, emails missing could show that, you can't tell me wrong, as commish, you should call FBI. 20:23:24 JOHN TIERNEY - D-massachusetts 20:23:44 Issa: Yield? No. Suspend. 20:23:58 Issa: Caution all members not to characterize the intent or character of members here on dais. 20:24:13 JK: fair game to question integrity of witness? 20:24:20 Issa: Rules of House speak to questioning the integrity of members. Would caution all of us, while Chair questioned testimony was truth or whoel truth, to question motives of witness should be done; 20:25:04 Horsford: has chmn violated own rules? 20:25:26 Issa: State as point of order. 20:25:41 Tierney: Members should reflect credibility on House. People watching today can decide. IG's responsibility to file a report and make recommendations. Or reviewing report, you or others might make recommendations. 20:26:17 JK: correct. 20:26:21 Q: not to that point? 20:26:27 JK: correct 20:26:31 Q: shoot; aim. 20:26:37 Q: discussed tonight anything on subject that wasn't discussed last Friday. 20:26:50 JK: no 20:26:52 Q: testify tmrw, 24th - had they been in touch with you. 20:27:05 JK: Asked whether I was available in morning on Tues; wasn't so went with afternoon. 20:27:21 Q: voluntarily? 20:27:25 JK: always 20:27:29 Q: subpoenaed tonight? (yes) Asked to come voluntarily? (no); explain why urgent? (no). 20:27:59 Q: some might speculate that Camp couldn't do job, suspect, or some kind of competition going on here. But when Chmn Camp heard subpoena, notified of Friday? 20:28:26 JK: Staff needed to know whether available Friday, I told them I could. 20:28:41 Q: how long? 20:28:44 JK: 4.5 hours, 45 minute recess. 20:28:51 Q: I would think all that time that tonight's hearing might be redundant. 20:29:01 JK: similarities to Friday. 20:29:07 Q: only thing different is Chmn Issa has invited Jennifer O'Connor to testify tmrw. Know her (no). Know whether she worked at IRS (understand she did); left in Nov? (understanding). Before emails discovered missing? (yes). 20:29:47 Q: where she works now (WH). Trump Camp? Hope that members will reflect credibility of the House. 20:30:17 JOHN DUNCAN (R-TENNESSEE): in free country, no group of individuals should be targeted. On march 26, Koksinen said no targeting. 20:31:57 Q: more anger today towards IRS than any time in my lifetime 20:33:33 ISSA: knew there was a problem? Sequence problem? 20:33:46 Q: did you ask about problem? 20:33:58 JK: no, 200 people working this issue, said they'd let me know. 20:34:11 Q: took this long to find out missing ones from Lois Lerner? Almost a year? 20:34:22 JK: Took about two months - nobody knew there was a problem. 20:34:33 Q: Inconsistence? 20:34:39 Yes. 20:34:43 Q: why when asked will you deliver, you said you'd find Lerner emails. 20:34:53 Q: Knew there was a problem 20:34:58 JK: nobody knew the ramifications; searched files, at time testified, no one had idea whther emails missing or not. 20:35:21 Q: were you aware? 20:35:25 JK: No 20:35:27 Q: IT people? 20:35:33 JK: IT people were. In late February. 20:35:51 STEPHEN LYNCH (D-MASSACHUSETTS): focused on the evidence. Surprised.originally invited by Camp to testify, then seems like when Issa found out, you were subpoenaed to testify before; then Camp jumps in front of him; billboards, video clip - great showmanship. Worried there'll be a 16-piece orchestra to complete show. 20:37:00 Q: Serious issues, but all fanfare clouding over, disservice to ppl we represent. Would like to focus on the evidence. Going back to the heart of this issue, we did have a situation, that they were using search terms, such as Tea Party, patriots, 9/12, BOLO for groups applying with characteristics. Govt spending, debt, taxes. Stmts criticizing how country was run. That's evidence. When IRS goes after citizens because of this criteria. That is relevant. That's not all they looked for. Search terms regarding progressive, 501c applications, any successor organizations to ACORN. Widespread - not just going after conservative groups, but American citizen. Agree? 20:38:58 JK: Evidence 20:39:02 Q: When emails go missing for 27 months, you realize how that feeds into suspiscion something is going on here. 20:39:26 JK: we found 24K emails in that period. 20:39:34 Q: I think you went at it honestly. When IG looked at it, he was looking at search term, did he look at other issue of missing emails? Was that known to him? 20:39:56 JK: Not known to anyone at that time. IG didn't look at that. He has started investigation of that now. 20:40:18 Q: look at how emails went missing? 20:40:31 JK: should and is, will provide a public report to investigators. 20:40:45 Q: Issa: other drives? 20:40:51 JK: at this point there aren't. Last week said look at other 82 custodians; not clear if emails lost. 20:41:17 Q: Issa: don't know - there may be others? 20:41:25 Issa: enters April report into record, debunks that progressives targeted 20:42:19 PATRICK MCHENRY: understand the fuss and fury? 20:42:33 JK: I understand, having been around Washington, if there has been a hard drive crash, and emails disappeared, matter should be revealed, Appears she was working hard to retrieve emails. 20:43:04 Q: you had ability to share in real time? Why not? 20:43:14 JK: Judgment was share when we had complete view. 20:43:26 Q: for me, this is not about you, or anybody up here, it's about the American people. Your agency sends fear up the spines of every American. One receipt missing, small biz person searches far and wide. Yet you testified Lerner's hard drive crashed and erased emails from Jan 2009 to April 2011. Time we're concerned about targeting. 20:44:23 Q: when you see that type of thing happening, defies. 20:44:36 JK: From April 2011 to May 2013, have significant emails. Point is question is in period of 24K, what are emails sent outside agency. 20:45:18 Q: not question I'm asking 20:45:31 Q: reason I'm asking is want you to convey to American people that running the IRS - did you get it. understand why American ppl look at this.$2 BN IT budget lets hard drive crash. Ridiculous, beyond comprehension. Lerner is the one searching desperately to find hard drive because it could incriminate her. 20:46:33 Q: JIM JORDAN: what date? 20:46:40 JK: April 20:46:44 Q: Date? 20:46:48 JK: April. 20:47:00 Q: Issa - you only know within a month? Could you provide calendar? 20:47:16 JK: look at the entire month 20:47:20 Q: don't know who - talked with people as it goes along 20:47:30 JK: IDK 20:47:34 Q: you don't know? 20:47:37 JK: only know in April I learned some missing, don't know when or who. 20:47:51 Q: GERALD CONNOLLY: July . 20:48:50 Q: doesn't permit to store all emails in active inboxes. 20:49:04 JK: don't have capacity 20:49:09 Q: why? (expense) 20:49:19 JK: $10 to $30 million. 20:49:27 Q: store on hard drive? 20:49:32 JK: No way to get emails into cloud b/c of sensitivity of info. 20:49:50 Q: hard drives crash in older computers. Replace them every three to four years. How often at IRS 20:50:08 JK: sometimes as long as 5-7 years. 20:50:17 Q: aging PCs? 20:50:21 JK: No doubt. Still have thousands running windows XP, moving onto Windows 7. 20:50:35 Q: surely concern we have up here with hard drives crashing and emails not being properly archived/stored, surely the Congress has provided investment, resources to update computer technology? 20:51:06 JK: we are provided significant amounts of money, but less than we need. Budget has gone down regularly over last four years. 20:51:21 Q: budget cut? 20:51:44 JK: that's right. 20:52:00Amazing given our concerns that we wouldn't be providing you with resources. 20:52:13 Q: Surely that'll change? 20:52:18 JK: we have high hopes. 20:52:34 Q: Surely you've been called to see what help you need? 20:52:49 JK: House appropriations, testified. 20:53:03 Q: heart bled for you. 20:53:08 MICA: enter into record weekend of June 21 that IRS had contract starting in 2005; motto of sonosoft if IRS uses sonosoft to backup, why not protect services? 20:54:16 Q: JORDAN: IRS in feb 2014, identified docs that said Lerner computer failure; during review, data was unrecoverable. Mid-march, knew data unrecoverable. 20:54:54 Q: fine, asked when you learned.according to your definition. 20:55:17 JK: don't remember. 20:55:21 Q: send email? 20:55:24 JK: didn't get emails, sure it was someone in person. 20:55:32 Q: major story in 13 months, and you don't remember being told 20:55:43 JK: don't remember who told me. 20:55:48 Q: something on front page. 20:55:54 JK: big agency with 90K people. In middle of filing season. 20:56:06 Q: what'd you do then? 20:56:11 JK: didn't do anything 20:56:15 Q: didn't tell WH 20:56:19 JK: not what politico reported. Didn't tell treasury. 20:56:31 Q: talk to anyone outside? 20:56:39 Q: knew in April, waited two months. 20:56:48 JK: were going to wait until we could give all emails 20:57:01 Q: wait! 20:57:05 JK: complete production. 20:57:18 Q: tell justice department? Criminal investigation going on. 20:57:27 JK: no evidence. 20:57:32 Q: president said get to bottom of this. 20:57:40 JK: never talked to FBI. 20:57:46 Q: incumbent on commish or IRS. Think about FBI investigation, think that person is in trouble? Heck yea. You didn't tell anybody. 20:58:13 Q: did you tell IG? 20:58:19 JK: no, didn't know whether we lost any. 20:58:26 Q: waited two months. At what point obstruction of justice? When you have that kind of critical info, the fact that you didn't tell us, after this for 13 months, hearing on the 26th, you said you would, learned you can't, then said oh by way. 20:59:10 JK: page 5 20:59:15 Q: tell us; 7 page document 20:59:30 Q: ridiculous. 20:59:39 Issa: Ways and Means referred criminal months ago 20:59:55 JACKIE SPEIER: Badgering witnesses is inappropriate and shameful for this cmte to conduct itself in that manner. 21:00:20 Issa: motion? 21:00:30 Speier: back to basics, respect and decorum, virtually every Republican has done. One member is going to walk out. 21:01:06 Jordan: Please yield? 21:01:12 Speier: Better, but no. 21:01:28 Q: enter into record..(so ordered) 21:01:34 Q: why you are serving our country is beyond me, but thank you. You are sterling example of what we do need in this govt. Knows exactly what they're doing. Not going to be bullied. Based on emails we've obtained, Lerner's harddrive crashed Jun 13, 2011. 21:02:20 JK: correct 21:02:24 Q: first email inappropriate - 21:02:40 JK: correct 21:02:43 Q: June 29, informed that they're using inappropriate search terms. IG didn't start until after computer crashed. Lerner's computer crashed before she was informed employees in Cincy, and before congressional or IRS investigation. 21:03:22 JK: yes, archived, but kept emails in account that didn't go down. 21:03:36 Q: archived b/c you don't have data, have to print emails. That's how archaic it is 21:03:56 Q: hearing last Friday, sprung a document on you, argued that IRS sent letter 10 days before Lerner's computer crashed, Chmn Camp sent a letter, then crash 10 days letter. 21:04:31 Q: copy of Camp letter, question asked to then-commish was whether donation was taxable gifts and if gift return should be filed? It's unsettled area of tax law, but applied in some cases. 21:05:12 JK: correct - application of that law. 21:05:19 Q: nothing to do with issue of 501 c4s and terms to identify? 21:05:41 issa enters report into record (koskinen, this is going to be some record). 21:06:20 Letter from Chmn be placed into record 21:06:50 JASON CHAFFETZ: Backup of emails lasted six months? 21:07:04 JK: Yes 21:07:06 Q: So when Lerner found out her email crashed, why not just go to six month tape? 21:07:24 JK: complicated to actually extract. Not sure why didn't do it. 21:07:38 Q: said extraordinary lengths, (backed up) 21:07:51 JK: All I know is back up tapes put everything in one lump, very costly and difficult. 21:08:08 Q: anybody tried? 21:08:11 JK: no indication anybody did 21:08:18 q: testimony of IRS to try hard, went to great lengths, but backed up on tape and they didn't do it? 21:08:34 JK: as far as I know, but two months. 21:08:43 Q: fortuitous.IG was unaware? 21:08:59 JK: he asked whether IG was aware email crashed, but think they did not know. 21:09:13 Q: nobody informed? 21:09:17 JK: not to my understanding 21:09:22 Q: withholding? 21:09:26 JK: IG has access to all emails. 21:09:43 Q: June 3 2011, page 2 - names of officers of any individuals should be subject to gift rules.organizations will trigger audit.that was 2011, he's asking for all emails - why wasn't it brought to attention of cmte? 21:10:23 JK: at that time? 21:10:25 Q: yea 21:10:28 JK: I wasn't there that time.no idea 21:10:42 Q: august of 2013, known years before that some emails were gone. JK: People knew in 2011 there had been a crash. 21:11:08 Q: did you know? 21:11:11 JK: I did not know. Reviewing entire process. 21:11:21 Q: didn't know if we had them all? 21:11:25 JK: at that time. 21:11:32 Q: did you know that you had all emails 21:11:40 JK: 21:11:50 Q: what percentage? 21:11:55 JK: give you 100 percent of emails we have. 21:12:03 Q: years. 21:12:08 JK: I've been there five / six months. 21:12:14 Q: did nothing to indicate at time? 21:12:24 JK: I have testified I didn't know nature of problem. 21:12:45 TAMMY DUCKWORTH: Really amazing to me to read that IRS requires employees to print or file emails as part of record, but all aren't? Absolutely unacceptable that govt agency can't produce emails requested during investigation. Not just issue w/ IRS, govt wide. 21:14:09 Q: Better records keeping? Steps taken? 21:14:16 JK: asked to develop email system easier to search. Told create broader server.reviewing that.move from paper system to electronic system. 21:14:51 Q: archives/records administration sent letter regarding IRS.. 21:15:03 JK: haven't seen letter 21:15:07 Q: required to request report of investigation of unauthorized disposal of federal records.common place; sent 92 similar requests to Bush administration. 21:15:44 JK: cooperate with all investigations..searched all Lerner emails 21:16:13 Q: Accurate to say when you found out some emails lost, still trying to recover, but located in other hard drives, you could recover that email - existed somewhere else? 21:16:51 JK: yes. 21:16:56 Q: when you found out unlikely to recover, IRS still trying to recover emails from other 82? 21:17:12 JK: correct, still producing emails post-crash, 43K committed to produce. 21:17:28 Q: Fair to say 21:17:36 JK: true, challenge, still moving people off XP to Windows 7 21:17:52 TIM WALBERG: Said Lerner trying to find her emails, understand why there are some Lerner plead Fifth b/c she felt to answer might incriminate her, incrimination could come from information coming in those emails 21:18:39 JK: no way of knowing was her concerns were. 21:18:49 Q: never will.have you fired anybody on your staff that didn't give you enough info so you'd make stmt more accurate? 21:19:18 JK: didn't fire anyone.no basis for firing. 21:19:32 Q: Oversight hearing 21:19:38 JK: great lengths of that hearing were about subpoena, Lerner emails agreed upon. 21:19:51 Q: understand anger? 21:19:56 JK: understand concerns about whether we have all her emails. 21:20:07 Q: isn't much help coming. President himself said May 15 inexcusable. Right to be angry about it.won't tolerate. Power to tax is power to destroy. We've seen that. People w/ First Amendment liberties being targeted by IRS. 21:21:08 You said to me back on March 26, slide from quote. 21:21:41 Q: stand by stmt? 21:21:45 JK: do 21:21:49 Q: issued raised? 21:21:53 JK: satisfied in regard to this issue. 21:21:59 Q: how many hard drives failed? 21:22:06 Since January, 2000. 21:22:11 Q: how many you? 21:22:15 JK: Once. Discusses percentages 21:22:31 Q: all of these people, mysterious experience on this information, information probably caused Lerner to plead fifth. 21:22:53 JK: not mysterious. 21:22:56 Q: mysterious for American people.stonewalling, very disappointed. 21:23:14 Chaffetz: Op-Ed from Chicago Tribune.More smoke from IRS. 21:23:26 STEVEN HORSFORD: Hearing has been quite an embarrassment. Engaged in conspiracy directed by WH, but Cmte nor IG has identified any evidence to back up allegation. Whole charade.motives of hearing itself. Integrity of hearing itself. Fact that Chmn has continued to conclude the outcome w/out allowing the info to be presented in impartial and complete way so members can do our job as we are elected to do. 21:24:43 This is a serious cmte, serious responsibilities, want to get to bottom of things, wrongdoing at IRS, we should fix it. But can't fix it when the House Republicans continue to establish unfounded allegations against what we do have - the facts. Entitled to own opinion, but not own facts 21:25:26 Q: Any evidence IRS employees part of conspiracy? 21:25:36 JK: Not aware of any evidence 21:25:42 Q: same answer from 41 other witnesses. Treasury, IRS, DOJ. Senior group managers came up with screening. 21:26:14 JK: understanding, haven't done any independent investigation. 21:26:22 Q: conservative republican. None of 41 told WH suggested or knew about conduct when it was going on. 21:26:48 JK: My understanding from what I read in newspapers, didn't independently determine that 21:27:06 Q: when IG testified in 2013, asked by Levin whether any evidence of political motivation.IG said we did not. Doubt IG's findings? 21:27:34 JK: I do not. 21:27:36 Q: WH sent a letter to Camp; letter explained WH searched its records and didn't identify any emails from Lerner and executive office of President. (June 18). 21:28:09 Horsford: Allegations are unfounded.hope that we put these reckless accussations to rest and focus on the facts. One statement I agree.public is upset, behavior of chmn and cmte. 21:28:50 Issa: time expired. 21:28:57 Horsford mic cut off. 21:29:05 Issa: article by Josh Hicks.shows that bonuses paid to IRS employees were $89 million.opposed to $10 million to retain critical documents 21:29:33 PAUL GOSAR: do you understand gravity of what America feels in regards to IRS? 21:30:05 JK:. 21:30:19 Q: Nixon Watergate.Judicial watch. 21:31:23 Q: read paper? (yes) should be aware of it. 21:32:05 JK: High profile challenge. That's my approach over 45 years. 21:32:11 Q: divide and conquer? 21:32:44 JK: Hear from frontline workers as well 21:32:52 Q: bothered by Lerner's conduct? Talking question from audience 21:33:02 JK: not normal way people would behave. 21:33:16 Q: taking fifth - odd? 21:33:22 JK: got her own lawyers. 21:33:26 Q: typical? 21:33:32 JK: I'm not aware whether that's way it's done 21:33:40 Q: seen anyone else take fifth? 21:33:50 JK: never seen anyone else take fifth 21:33:59 Q: Gowdy had problem. Trust him. If you had management style. If you knew who told you. 21:34:16 JK: at least five different people reporting to me. 21:34:25 Q: should know.all have same task? 21:34:31 JK: 4-5 involved in production effort, info from several different people. 21:34:51 Scott Desjarlais 21:35:20 Q: number to upgrade? ($10-$30 million). 21:35:43 Q: bonuses.did you know that number. $89 million just in 2012 alone. Could have upgraded equipment. 21:36:15 JK: 89,000 employees.so $1000 each. 21:36:28 Q: $1 million to employees with back taxes. 21:36:40 JK: that issue has come up more recently. 21:36:51 Q: hold everybody to same standards? 21:36:58 JK: same - as we've gone forward, negotiated with union. 21:37:17 Q: did IRS improperly target? 21:37:24 JK: IG report says improper criteria used. Goal is for this not to happen again. 21:37:48 Q: said targeting? Wapo? 21:37:55 JK: used targeting word once, my point is IG report says improper criteria 21:38:26 Q: ever coached to say it that way? More palatable? 21:38:37 JK: no, that's what IG report says 21:38:43 Q: nobody? 21:38:46 JK: nobody tells me what to say. IG report said inappropriate criteria. 21:39:00 Q: leadership at top? 21:39:06 JK: believe leadership at top 21:39:13 Q: special prosecutor? 21:39:17 JK: now six; seven investigations. Once IG gives report, start to decide next step. 21:39:37 Q: clean image of IRS? 21:39:42 JK: clean when we hear from IG and see whether he finds any malfeasance. 21:39:58 TREY GOWDY: Explain was foliation of evidence? 21:40:19 JK: No idea 21:40:27 Q: if you fail to keep documents, jury infers - foliation of evidence. 21:40:46 JK: practiced law, gave it up for lent, never went back. 21:40:56 Q: when party has duty to preserve evidence, negative to infer. Right to infer. 21:41:20 JK: if you destroy evidence and people could prove it, not good. 21:41:33 Q: negative inference.they failed to keep documents, draw negative inference. So if it's true it applies to taxpayer? 21:41:52 JK: trial? Jury? 21:41:56 Q: I'm glad you mentioned it. Said multiple times that no evidence you found of criminal wrongdoing. 21:42:15 Q: what statutes? 21:42:22 JK: none 21:42:27 Q: don't know what's at play? What did you evaluate? 21:42:37 JK: common sense 21:42:40 Q: you have said today no evidence of criminal wrongdoing. I'm asking what you reviewed? 21:42:52 JK: None 21:42:55 Q: You have no idea. 21:43:01 JK: No evidence of wrongdoing. 21:43:09 Q: What did Lerner say FCC will save day? 21:43:21 JK: No idea? 21:43:25 Q: 1842..violation? you haven't looked. 21:43:38 jk: w/ regard to production of Lerner emails, no evidence of wrongdoing. What else went on with Lois Lerner. 21:43:58 Q: you're just saying you didn't engage in any? 21:44:04 Q: no saying no criminal with regard to targeting 21:44:15 JK: people making judgments. 21:44:24 Q: we will never know bc/ you didn't keep the evidence. 21:44:35 JK: no emails from WH, have all treasury emails, so basic argument. 21:44:48 Q: you're repeating a talking point. Jay Carney perpetuated myth it was two rouge agents. 21:45:05 JK: not that I know of 21:45:08 Q: who said not a smidgeon of corruption? 21:45:21 JK: president 21:45:25 Q: you want to blame us for bringing WH into it? 21:45:32 JK: all I said is WH revealed no lois lerner emails. To extend that Lerner was conspiring, haven't seen. 21:45:58 BLAKE FARENTHOLD: People in district frustrated.if we came back and said don't have resources to comply with tax law, wouldn't let me skate. 21:47:02 JK: Done by office of information and regulatory affairs. 21:47:13 Q: familiar with federal records act. 21:47:21 JK: yes 21:47:23 Q: reads act.your IRS manual says print out emails. Who decides? 21:47:42 JK: employees provided b/g and they make decision. 21:47:52 Q: so if they don't like it. 21:47:59 JK: trained many. 21:48:04 Q: in response, you indicated search terms. 21:48:12 JK: search terms for all 21:48:16 Q: how for hard copy emails? Go through records? 21:48:23 JK: Yes 21:48:33 Q: easier in electronic form 21:48:41 JK: no doubt 21:48:48 Q: print records out.so I did google search.average side of word document. 64,782 of 9 pages per gigabyte, terabyte is 64.8 million documents. Terabyte hard drive for $60; buy two.cost to print is 5 to eight cents.looks to me like for every terabytes, you'd save $21 million in printing fees. 21:50:07 Q: spend $5K; 21:50:25 JK: not in our system you can't. 21:50:32 Q: not in exchange server? 21:50:41 JK: I'm told $10 million.. If we're printing $21 million. 21:51:08 THOMAS MASSIE: 21:51:46 JK: email was in her account, she had that email, focused on hard drive where she had archived. 21:51:58 Q: they're saying it's gone, but what about emails from servers? 21:52:17 JK: haven't seen anything about backup tapes. 21:52:26 Q: Was hard drive replaced? 21:52:35 JK: Yes, IG has it. 21:52:42 Q: could we see if she was deleting emails? 21:52:59 JK: haven't looked at that, but produced all these emails, possible to take a look 21:53:10 Q: 3-5% hard drives failed, 1/30.Camp sent letter to IRS; hard drive failed in 10 days, probability is 1 in 1000. 21:53:48 JK: not way probability works - same probability - flip a coin. 21:53:53 Q: I took class at MIT. 21:54:11 JK: must have taken a different probability class. 21:54:21 Q: 21:54:26 JK: don't know what the list looks like. 21:54:39 Q: 21:54:41 JK: Investigating.will provide a full report. 21:54:53 Q: not questioning your integrity. But question your judgment not sharing information with us. Had suspicion.bad news never gets better with age. What I want to ask you, any other anomalies in data or retrieval that you can think of now? 21:55:30 JK: Not aware of any.other than pursuing other custodians. 21:55:48 Q: similar bad news,.share it now 21:55:55 JK: don't know of any other bad news as you put it. 21:56:01 Q: if we had a flat tax or fair tax? 21:56:09 JK: support chmn camp, be helpful if I can. 21:56:27 Q; DOUG COLLINS: Imagination.Agency in Cincy decides to look into certain files.don't tell Washington or anyone else know. When Chmn of our Cmte makes an inquiry, hard drive fails, two weeks later.then Cincinnati tells.seen Fifth taken. 22:02:35 MARK MEADOWS: What records do you keep? 22:03:06 JK: anything about impt policies. 22:03:15 Q: anything in transaction of agency actions. 22:03:24 JK: exam 22:03:27 Q: none of Lerner's emails are part? 22:03:40 JK: provided printed emails 22:03:45 Q: all? 22:03:50 JK: not all are record 22:03:54 Q: I haven't read many, but of the 67K, many are not official record. 22:04:14 Q: says they need to be machine readable 22:04:23 Q: If I'm following your manual..breaking law? 22:05:10 JK: didn't advise archivist.didn't know whether official records or not. 22:05:32 Q: letter from Archives expressing concern? 22:05:41 Q: really a money problem? 22:05:52 JK: would be in much better shape, told we didn't have funds to do it. 22:06:05 Q: if you don't have money to comply, that's ok? Ok to break law as long as they don't have money? 22:06:16 JK: don't think we established that IRS broke the law. 22:06:28 Q: some records are missing 22:06:35 JK: no idea.there are missing emails 22:06:39 Q: reasonable person think in thousands of emails, one official record 22:07:04 JK: we don't know if thousands are missing 22:07:12 Q: reasonable person? 22:07:16 JK: last time I checked 22:07:21 Q: are you aware $49 million spent on conferences.2010-2012, according to TIGTA. 22:07:47 JK: not aware of number. 22:07:53 Q: think you could have moved some of that $49 million? 22:08:05 JK: don't know details or those events, resolved long before I arrived. 22:08:26 Q: issa follows up, I don't know. If there was money wasted, could have been used for this purpose. 22:08:41 KERRY BENTIVILIO: Who reports regularly? 22:09:03 Q: names and titles? 22:09:08 JK: Happy to provide them 22:09:15 Q: objectivity vs neutrality? 22:09:28 JK: 22:09:32 Q: synonyms; no judgment; no stance 22:09:47 JK: every American has an interest. 22:09:55 Q: non partisan? 22:09:58 JK: non-partisan, but doesn't mean don't have an interest 22:10:09 Q: back? 22:10:14 JK: Hatch act. 22:10:17 Q: official duty? 22:10:20 JK: prohibited 22:10:29 Q: lose their jobs? 22:10:32 JK: I think so, there are professionals. 22:11:08 JK: I'm objective about it, comes with the territory. 22:11:20 Q: seems to me, if someone was carried away, apologize, fix it. But IRS isn't doing that. 22:11:34 JK: Weurfel and I said if anyone targeted, discriminated, I'm committed won't happen again. 22:12:01 Q: seems to me should have said, they made a mistake, punish them. 22:12:14 JK: People involved in chain of command are all gone. 22:12:23 Q: all retired? 22:12:26 JK: except ones in 1600 22:12:39 Q: JORDAN: said in april, didn't communicate with WH. April of this year, Treasury, WH counsel; How'd Treasury Chief Counsel find out? 22:13:13 JK: I don't know 22:13:20 Q: so somebody at IRS told chief counsel? 22:13:29 JK: meet regularly 22:13:34 Q: why not tell them? 22:13:38 JK: I don't report to treasury 22:13:46 Q: did you tell someone else to tell WH? 22:13:53 JK: No 22:13:55 Q: who at IRS told counsel? 22:14:07 JK: I don't know who it is. 22:14:15 Q: Send an email to all employees, who ever told WH counsel, I want to know who person is so I can tell Cmte and we can question them. 22:14:45 JK: haven't talked to Treasury. 22:14:56 HOSFORD: over time 22:15:17 Issa: I'm cutting you off again. We will maintain order. Cite within rules a point of order whether rules are being properly adhered to. Speier did a good job. Use a parliamentarian. 22:15:53 Q: RON DESANTIS: Haven't reviewed that letter? 22:16:17 JK: I scanned. 22:16:21 Q: that letter requested docs be backed up 22:16:35 JK: backup tapes.no server 22:16:43 Q: never got emails back, even though Congress requested, IRS didn't care. 22:16:57 JK: Knew there was a problem.advised there was an issue. 22:17:10 Q: you promised cmte, montage, yes we'll do it. Never disclosed there were real problems 22:17:32 JK: I didn't know they were real problems. 22:17:38 Q: in February, what we knew was there was a problem b/c looking at it as timeframe, appeared not enough emails in timeframe. Reason to believe you were short of emails. 22:18:03 JK: review team did that. I knew problem emails spread in timeframe, didn't know details. 22:18:25 Q: chaffetz going back and forth, you told him you'll get emails, stored in servers. Why say that if you knew there was a problem, and backup tapes only saved for six months? 22:18:51 JK: at that time, pulled all of emails and put into server system, way we search them. Pool. 22:19:16 Q: you testified possibility this was coming up short. Chose not to disclose. 22:19:38 Q: why didn't you disclose? 22:19:44 JK: when we'd find out facts of details, I'd explain. Last Monday, learned custodians had hard drive crashes, three days later wrong. 22:20:08 Q: duty of candor to American people. Maybe you weren't kept up, following closely enough, but this is impt. Avg taxpayer presumed guilty. IRS is in situation where they can say computer crash, probability, 10 days after Camp asked for information. Don't think American people are satisfied. 22:21:13 JK: When we're dealing with taxpayers, we are open to producing other evidence consistent. Legal precedent.if actions produce support, acceptable. We'll work w/ taxpayers trying to make sure that any supporting information, we'll take that. 22:22:22 Q: ISSA: Only few members left for 2nd round. 22:23:03 Cummings: 22:23:37 thank you for giving a damn about our country. When under Republican and Dem administrations you have been highly regarded. I've said it before, we're better than that. We are a better country. We are a better committee than that. 22:24:20 When I reviewed IRS employee intvs, said they were constantly asked about their party affiliation and that kind of thing. Some are Republicans, some Democrats, one even described himself as very conservative Republcian, but said they left party hats at the door. 22:25:03 know why? Make sure to do job in a way that was fair to all Americans. And so yeah there are issues, but sometimes I sit here and listen to all of this, and somebody asked me about this cmte, said if you were to leave cmte, what would you most regret? I'd mourn for what could have been. 22:25:45 We are a cmte of OGR, and I'm glad that IRS took nine recommendations of IG, appointed by Rs, same IG that said no WH involvement, but just push facts over there, let's see what we can do to him.but you know what, I care about your reputation. 22:26:47 Then having to come in here, and go through this hell. Don't think anybody up here is perfect. All of us have had problems. All of us are walking wounded, if we aren't we just keep on living. Want to thank you very much. If any kind of inappropriate,. 22:28:14 JORDAN: get all the information, get full story. 22:29:00 JK: had no idea in March whether serious problem, just issue. 22:29:09 Q: your testimony is wanted all the facts, thought that was impt, yet one of your employees told Treasury and WH in early April. So if so impt, why not tell employees not to tell? 22:30:07 JK: Didn't think if somebody - didn't tell anybody what not to do. Said pull all facts, make public disclosure. 22:30:27 Q: not what happened.knew about it, talked in April. That's what we're concerned about. A good manager would say, let's get truth, tell everyone at same time. If it's ok? 22:31:07 JK: wouldn't make a big deal 22:31:12 Q: same party 22:31:14 JK: no idea 22:31:16 Q: WH knew in April 22:31:24 JK: WH found out from Treasury. 22:31:38 Q: Someone from Treasury 22:31:45 JK: yeah 22:31:49 Q: find out who that was. 22:31:57 JK: I'll do my best. 22:32:12 ISSA: Maybe WH wouldn't release same way as House Ways and Means 22:32:35 Q: hasn't WH selectively leaked in past? 22:32:44 JK: don't know 22:32:47 Q: isn't it true when it favors, release? Hold back when don't? 22:32:57 Issa: I'm a little insulted. 22:33:14 Horsford: 22:34:45 Issa repeats assertion, but said something different in previous hearing. As far as you can tell, 2008, and now, is Republican administration then, Dem now. Fact is IRS and many other agencies have struggled for years. GAO, national archivist have reported on problem repeatedly. What can you do on steps taken to restore IRS? 22:35:53 JK: Reviewing all of our activities. Asked at a minimum, create electronic searchable system. 22:37:32 Q: commend you; Oversight Cmte, but also Govt Reform Cmte. Would like to hear your recommendations on how to move forward. Not one hearing on how to implement is a flaw in way. 22:38:40 Massie: Appreciate patience and stamina. One June 3, 2011, Camp letter.requested emails be provided / preserved. Know her hard drive crashed b/c of ticket filed with IT? 22:39:26 JK: correct 22:39:29 Q: would you provide all tickets? (JK, yes) 22:39:40 Issa: nearing the end. You say you didn't know Lerner. 22:40:12 JK: assume it was office computer. 22:40:20 Issa: employees download emails to laptops and leave building. (Office computer is often laptop). To your knowledge are laptops limited so they may not employ USB drives? 22:41:01 JK: they are now, years ago, thumb drives were usable, but all encrypted. 22:41:32 Q: also Best Buy, Lerner's laptop, if it had USB to local drive, could have moved them to USB external drives or thumb drives. 22:41:59 JK: sounds right. 22:42:03 Q: so for American people, possible, probably that every day individuals leave IRS on laptops that they take home. 22:42:25 JK: correct to my knowledge. 22:42:32 Q: so Lerner, an attorney, may have made a copy, could have it on USB product, or any kind or product? 22:42:48 JK: that's correct 22:42:53 Q: Lerner may have made copies of this before failure. When DOJ, was she asked those questions? 22:43:09 JK: I have no idea 22:43:13 Q: did she have USB or product? 22:43:17 JK: I have no knowledge 22:43:21 Q: laptop or dual purpose? 22:43:26 JK: I don't know. 22:43:31 Q: 90,000 computers that use local hard drives to store info and emails instead of on the server because disappears? 22:43:54 JK: server will keep until 6K, then notice to archive; backup tapes are separate. 22:44:17 Q: I spent a lot of time in electronics, passion for this.aware that if you back up system every six months, the cost we'd be looking at would be cost of tape drive.wouldn't be $10 million 22:45:00 JK: don't think so. 22:45:03 Q: with limited budget, if you bought 12 sets of cartridges. Could have backed up systems.for fraction? 22:45:30 JK: correct, but simply - if not searchable. 22:45:46 Q: when Waxman, conversion from LOTUS, failed to have good backups. Restored countless emails so Presidential records act would be upheld. Waxman didn't care it cost 24 million. Cmte did image-back restorations. Had you done, had IRS done, $10s of thousands of dollars. 22:46:47 JK: would have cost a lot of money to get emails off recovery tapes. That's not what disaster recovery tapes are meant to do 22:47:14 Q: why cost so much, we only wanted Lerner emails 22:47:24 Q: I'll read you a piece of it. Andrew Jackson, still burned and complaining through Congress, petitions in 1803 to recover for loss of revenues.put that in record b/c National Archives and Archivist maintains amazing amount of documents and recovers. Gen. Jackson wanting money back may not be anything but humorous, but part of wealth of information American people have access to across the street. 22:48:58 Q: you said more money if maintain records, hope that when you scrub that $10 million and go back and ask whether to meet requirement of national archives having access to wealth they need. 22:49:32 Q: Horsford correct, maintain transparency, for the next generation as much information as we possibly can. 22:50:28 Q: lastly, guess $111 per employee computer, could easily have covered by downgrading local drives.very little reason to have large local drives. 22:50:59 Q: Lastly, sent 50 questions Saturday afternoon..48 hours.no response other than short oral briefing. 22:51:23 JK: hard to get people together on Sunday. 22:51:35 Q: eight hours of workday today, there'll be additional questions.see if you can figure out whether 1st of April you learned, seven days after you testified, and narrow down who told you about it? 22:52:11 Q: question about how WH came to know.for that purpose, we will now recess. Pleased to adjourn, for now recess subject to recall.

INT BROLL HOUSE OVERSIGHT IRS HEARING IRS Targeting Investigation IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testifies before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about the loss of an unknown number of emails related to former IRS official Lois Lerner. Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) chairs the committee. 19:16:02 IRS Commissioner John Koskinen takes seat at witness table; Chmn Darrell Issa gavels Cmte to order 19:16:13 Issa: cmte exists to secure fundamental principles.right to know money is well spent, and Americans deserve efficient govt that works for them. Our duty is to protect these rights. Hold govt accountable to taxpayers. 19:16:44 Our job is to work w/ citizen watchdogs and bring reform to federal bureaucracy. 19:17:08 Cmte meets today as we continue our effort to get the truth and full truth on obstruction by IRS and targeting of Americans b/c of their conservative political beliefs. When IRS commish appeared before this cmte, he promised he would produce all of Lerner's emails. He made promises w/out qualification or limitation. Even reiterated for Ranking Member: (plays video - all of Lerner's emails) 19:19:37 Cummings clip.are you going to provide the documents? (Yes). 19:19:58 Issa returns: requested all of Lerner's emails. Told us he would provide all; requested over a year ago, subpoenaed them in August in order to make clear not being complied with, and new subpoena in Feb 2014 when you came to IRS. 19:20:33 Transparency doesn't tell story. Worked to cover up; struck acknowledgement came two weeks after we found some at DOJ. When looking through emails, did you look at justice dept where she sent 1.1 million documents; some 6103 prohibited documents. Did you ever give courtesy of missing emails; instead staff shared statement to Senate Cmte controlled by president's party. Said it'd take two years; welcome back - hasn't been two years. Did you hope you'd run out the clock? 19:21:55 Perhaps you thought Congress wouldn't realize there were missing emails until we found them at DOJ. I called you to testify b/c the American ppl deserve answers about why you hid from American people for years. Didn't begin on your watch. Missing emails were known by many people who have jobs at IRS today under your predecessor and his predecessor. Should concern all of us. 19:22:52 Federal Records Act envisions that impt documents will be maintained not just for investigation, but for perpetuity for benefit of American people. This event, like Watergate, will be studied by future generations w/out Lerner. Subpoenaed you b/c I'm sick and tired of game-playing. You are president's hand-picked man, you testified under oath in march that you'd produce all emails. You took an oath to tell truth. You didn't tell whole truth that you knew on that day. Gave word to produce all emails, questioning what your word is worth if you can't tell us what you know. Do we have to grill you for days, months with every possible way a question can be asked, or will a meaning of a question prompt a complete answer? 19:24:51 American people have no trust in IRS. American people have never loved IRS. No one loves the organization that takes your taxes, then comes back with huge power over lives. Shouldn't be hard to trust IRS. American people deserve this agency, which was previously nonpartisan, need to trust again that it'll be non-partisan. 19:25:37 American people understand that if they did not do right thing five, six, seven years - disallowed. In fact, you only keep for six months, without safeguards. Commissioner, you'll say you produced thousands of documents. That production is printing, then scratching out. It's not producing documents that embarrass you. It's the docs we receive the night before that often tell us what we waited years for. 19:26:50 Tonight will be difficult. We have a problem with you, you have a problem maintaining your credibility. You promised documents, did not. Candid, did not. Subcmte chmn irritated you b/c you felt he questioned your integrity. I defended you, tonight I wish I could take that back. Say tonight: you belive you earned trust before you came here. I believe you need to earn our trust. Failed, either way American people don't believe IRS dealing fairly with them. 19:27:57 ELIJAH CUMMINGS: Get to the heart of accusation Republicans making the past week. Accused of false testimony, or misleading testimony. Accused of false testimony, committing a crime. What are we really saying? Republicans saying that Lois Lerner intentionally destroyed emails, and IRS officials helped her cover it up. Chmn Issa leading the charge. Here are some of the accusations he's made. June 13, Issa suggested that this was "a nefarious conduct that went much higher than Lois Lerner." On June 18, said emails of prominent official don't just disappear w/out a trace unless that was intention. On June 19, he said Lerner made decision not to have this drive recovered. Just this morning he said the justice Dept and WH are interested in seeing she succeeds in hiding. 19:30:01 Issa made accusations w/out briefing from IT officials at IRS who could explain what happened. Without hearing from Commissioner. He testified at W&M, now that we have facts - vastly different story. Our Cmte has obtained no evidence to support claim that Lerner intentionally destroyed emails. Have now obtained evidence showing the exact opposite, that this was a tech problem w/ her computer. Truth, full truth, nothing but the truth. 19:31:11 In Koskinen, he walked though email through email showing she sought help from IRS, went to great lengths to recover data, couldn't do so. Also testified that IRS took extraordinary steps of sending Lerner hard drive to criminal lab, but even they couldn't recover data. Truth, whole truth, nothing but truth. 19:32:00 Lerner received bad news, 'unfortunately not good; sectors bad, data unrecoverable.' If anyone wants actual evidence, now we have it. Ask that all of these emails from July 19, 20, Aug 1, Aug 5 be entered into record. 19:32:47 Issa: without objection - any Lerner emails 19:32:55 Cummings: these are from 2011, showed her computer crashed before she was informed employees in Cincinnati were using search terms. Take issue w/ why they didn't back up data. IRS policy in 2011 was to recycle after six months to save money. Explained policy was changed in 2013 to save all backup data. Fact is long-standing problems with federal record keeping. Bush administration lost millions of emails on AG, Plame, others. 19:34:12 In 2007, Perino admitted they lost 5 million. Said 'We screwed up, trying to fix it.' There has been some progress, believed we should do more, do better. Introduced Electronic Methods Preservation Act. Although this cmte voted on bipartisan basis, it is language that is dead. House Republicans have declined to bring it to the floor for a vote. Should obtain facts, responsible effort to find truth. Shouldn't be an unseemly race to hold first hearing in front of cameras or hyperbolic soundbytes based on least amount of evidence. 19:35:41 In this case, Republicans have tried to link this scandal to the White House. Sincerely hope we will turn to legislation to help federal agencies run more efficiently. 19:36:07 Issa: in today's briefing, after we sent questions to Commission, said they'd answer orally. When asked Lerner didn't intentionally crashed her hard drive, couldn't say she did or didn't. Nothing in emails - couldn't say. 19:36:48 Cummings: IRS IT official briefed - he reviewed documents; asked if Lerner intentionally crashed harddrive. No reason to believe it. Have no reason. He also told Cmte Lerner wanted to recover. Nothing nefarious about loss of emails. When asked whether anyone aware of intentionally destroying documents, he said absolutely not. 19:38:00 Issa: We sent those 48 hours ago so we wouldn't have long hearing. Likely we'll ask you to come back since briefing didn't address questions. 19:38:28 JIM JORDAN: Then tried to spin it. Lerner w/ planted question tried to spin it, then blame someone else; then said IG report was flawed, now they hide the evidence. Bad guy always says, he denies it, blames someone else. Always says officer - I didn't throw gun in river. This would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. One big difference is bad guy on street doesn't get to have his friends run the investigation. 19:39:45 Fact that ?? is running investigation - big Obama donor, is wrong. Bad guy doesn't get to have his friends run investigation. Here's impt point, I hope that someone in administration will have courage to say time for special prosecutor. Dallas Morning News said it's time for one. Twenty-six Democrats stood up with all Republicans and said it's time. 19:40:47 Hope the guy who heads agency, could show independence and have courage to do what 26 dems said six weeks ago. 19:41:20 GERALD CONNOLLY: Mr. Koskinen, stage is set. This is about theatre. Fair play, presumption of innocence, out the window b/c there's an agenda that presupposes some guilt that is based in part on supposition, on paranoia, on conspiracy theory to fire up base of other party, plays well on right wing media outlets. At expense of the truth, semblance of bipartisan cooperation, at expense of trying to fix problems. You don't think for a minute that part of the solution is to provide the IRS with more resources to address its IT problem. Don't think for a minute that the solution would be more agents to deal w/ backlog, or money left on table owed the govt. 19:43:15 Then we come to your honor. I first met you when we were worried about Y2K back in '98-'99. Worried at stroke of midnight, banking system would collapse, all computer systems would go awry. See an honorable public servant, served R and D administrations and was cited for exemplary service, and integrity and personal honor. Fact that you would be subjected to barrage of innuendo and accusation backed up by nothing for purpose of political theatre is wreckless, disgraceful and brings dishonor to this cmte. 19:44:40 there are a number of us who still respect your integrity and understand this dynamic and willing to call it out for what it is. Hope that doesn't shape your faith and hope you will continue your tenure at IRS to clean up what problems there are and make the IRS a more accessible, accountable and efficient agency. That's why you undertook a thankless assignment. 19:45:27 Issa: Ask that HR 1244 placed into record. Now go to Koskinen, commissioner of IRS. 19:45:45 Koskinen rises to take oath 19:46:00 "I do" 19:46:12 Issa: you certainly have some 'splaning to do.' 19:46:25 JOHN KOSKINEN: IRS made massive document production related to review of tax exempt status as explained by TIGTA. Cmtes have received thousands of documents. As of last Friday, more than 27K emails from Lerner, and 18K emails from which Lerner was author or recipient. Investigators given copies of emails three years ago, so should be clear that nobody was keeping info from Congress 19:47:39 Should get redacted versions - 43K from 2009-May 2013. 67K emails; IRS reviewed email from custodial computer account, limited to search terms and identified possibility of issue, wasn't clear whether emails missing, overlooked, etc. Pointed to computer failure in 2011. As we reviewed additional emails, learned long before. In 2011, IRS tried at Lerner's request to recover information. Series of emails recounts series of events. IRS IT said tech still had drive. After receiving assistance, including from HP experts, still couldn't recover data. 19:49:57 As last resource, sent to criminal investigation, but data unrecoverable. 19:50:18 In light of hard drive issue, IRS took multiple steps, ensured that no emails overlooked, producing as much when Lerner author or recipient. Asked whether other 82 had similar difficulties. Determined last week that several additional may have had failures. Not unusual especially at IRS. Since Jan 1, over 2,000 IRS employees have suffered hard drive crashes. Doesn't mean all emails lost. Still assessing. Some custodians apparently lost no emails at all. What emails outside agency are not in 24K Lerner emails sent to other IRS employees. 19:51:59 Should fill gaps, Treasury IG has begun investigation, his report will provide independent review. Committee to working cooperatively; continue to provide updates. 19:52:27 Issa: Remember Brolio Costilio. Gregory Rosen? No. Costilio was on trial for murdering wife, wrongfully received IT contracts from IRS. Rosen took fifth; see Duckworth asking how his ankle hurts. That time, we rely on ability to recover emails as part of chain of discovery. TIGTA, Russell George relies; tomorrow head of Archives 19:53:46 Question I have is how can we expect you have servers that run Microsoft exchange. Capture every email in or out, local hard drive is only place email existed? 19:54:13 Koskinen: there was email on server, even hard copies has or will be provided to Cmte. 19:54:34 Q: if you were properly backing up, including info she selected to delete; 19:54:52 JK: All emails are not part of fed records act. 19:55:06 Q: you were allowing her to retain emails on C Drive, so six months later, not in possession of them? 19:55:24 JK: no, each is limited to 6,000 emails they can hold and store; Agency doesn't have ability to save all emails. $10-30 million to upgrade system. B/c of budget constraints. 19:56:02 Issa: $1.8 billion is IT budget. Is the retention of key documents that American people need to count on, like being treated fairly, isn't that a priority. 19:56:28 JK: If we had the resources. 19:56:34 Q: If IRS doesn't have resources, it won't keep records. Resources are question of whether you retain documents. 19:56:55 Q: You said you'd tell whole truth. You saw that montage. You knew there was a problem w/ Lerner's emails. 19:57:12 JK: I knew there was an issue that nobody knew the ramifications of 19:57:26 Q: did you know an email was missing? 19:57:32 JK: No, first time I knew emails were lost was in April. 19:57:43 Q: you knew in April, told political appointees? 19:57:54 JK: No 19:57:57 Q: Who'd you tell? 19:58:00 JK: Nobody. 19:58:03 Q: IG? Q: Cause anyone to find out. 19:58:05 JK: No. If you have evidence, I'd love to see it. 19:58:13 Q: Issa: I asked you a question. 19:58:32 JK: I said I'd provide all the emails. Three years ago; never said I'd provide emails we didn't have. 19:59:00 Q: My time has expired, I've lost patience for you 19:59:08 CUMMINGS Questions: resources? 19:59:17 JK: $300 million had to be taken from other IT programs. 19:59:37 Q: Many members of Congress suggested Lerner intentionally crashed computer. But Friday you testified about 2011, emails showing opposite. (shows slide of email). 20:00:51 Q: Later that day, IT said nobody can fix it. (slide); next slide July 20; Aug 1 slide; 20:03:49 Q: are you aware of any evidence - docs, emails, (remind you're under oath). Aware of documents, emails or other info from IT professionals that calls into question the legitimacy of these emails? 20:04:18 JK: No. 20:04:21 Q: When you testified, did you know her emails were lost forever? 20:04:39 JK: No. 20:04:51 JOHN MICA: You're probably the guy at the end of the parade with the broom and shovel. 20:06:35 Q: 27 months? Jan '09 to April '11 20:06:42 Q: came on in December; briefed at beginning of January. Testified today there was a problem recovering some of the emails. 20:07:16 JK: learned issue with emails, problem with dates. 20:07:24 Q: Came to cmte, said thought you completed investigation; didn't hear until a few days ago that hard drive crashed and all of this was unrecoverable. Gave us this testimony in March. 20:08:08 JK: In February, briefed me that subject to search terms, issue with date. 20:08:25 Q: Mica: I gave you benefit of the doubt, conflicts, appears you knew and others knew - Congress wasn't informed until recently. 20:08:46 Q: backup contractor - they were dismissed in 2011, do they have backup? 20:09:21 JK: they were under contract for internal disaster recover program; contract was terminated when IRS chief counsel upgraded to outlook 2010. 20:09:44 Q: backup exist? 2005-2011 20:09:48 JK: for 3000 emails in chief counsel's office 20:10:07 Q: did you ask company for info? 20:10:12 JK: All data is inside IRS. 20:10:18 Q: gone too? 20:10:25 JK: all data has been searched. 20:10:37 ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON: I've been impressed by confidence you've inspired. It's as if they saved you the jobs others couldn't do, have guts to do, or have integrity to do. When agency is in trouble, turn to John Koskinen. Offer you an apology 20:11:31 Believe you deserve one, because of accusations designed to sacrificed the reputation of a public service [sic] w/ spotless reputation without a scintilla of evidence. Vile enough to look a man in the face and accuse perjury without evidence. 20:12:19 Whether it is that Lerner crash occurred well before investigation began. She must be clairvoyant. All the evidence is on your side Mr. Koskinen. Line of conspiracy hunting has shifted with the Lerner crash. For the longest time the line of questioning was about one subject. Moved from one scapegoat - just moved off notion this was all a conspiracy directed on behalf of WH. 20:13:17 Lacking evidence, the crash provides new fodder. Have you identified any evidence that IRS employees before or now were part of conspiracy to target political enemies? 20:13:45 JK: I've done no investigations, read IG's report. Nine recommendations, accept all. Impt for public to be confident all fairly treated by IRS. Should understand they'll be treated fairly. If someone else had that issue. Think it's critical public have that confidence. 20:14:27 EHN Q: onto second conspiracy; do you recall IG also testified when asked evidence of political motivation, he said 'we did not' have evidence. Your strong reputation, character should hold you in good stead as you face faceless accusations. Nothing to worry about. Thank you for extraordinary service. 20:15:27 Issa: Wonder if that quote, we can find Lerner's emails. Would commish stand behind? 20:15:48 EHN: sure he was looking for all; 20:15:57 Issa: her crash came after we began investigating. 20:16:08 EHN: therefore she did what? Nothing to do, shouldn't be accused. 20:16:36 Issa: said all eamils 20:16:43 JK: at time, had no idea whether any of those applied. That's what told in April. Didn't know if anything was true. 20:17:08 Issa: if you know difference in numbers, knew the problem, didn't know details. 20:17:22 EHN: should talk before details? 20:17:30 Issa: know there was some sort of problem. Say so. 20:17:41 EHN: lying when you said you'd find them all? 20:17:49 JK: no. 20:18:04 MIKE TURNER (R-OHIO) Have to understand this discussion goes to confidence and issue of ability to do that, integrity. Back to ethics. You agree that you can't be manager, investigator, judge, jury, of matters. There's inherent conflict and basis. 20:18:49 JK: no sure, I'm in charge, accountable. 20:18:59 Q: no crime committed by Lerner? 20:19:06 JK: no evidence. 20:19:10 Q: I can tell you I have no evidence. I dno't have the agency, the FBI, have them take things that can give that. Just b/c you haven't seen all evidence, can't say no crime. 20:19:34 JK: didn't say no crime. 20:19:38 Q: ability to say no crime committed? 20:19:48 JK: no evidence 20:19:54 Q: of course, but can't say no crime committed. 20:20:00 Q: asserted fifth, fear or prosecution, fear of criminal; you can't testify she has no fear of prosecution, if in process of emails destroyed, there were those in agency that knew crime committed, then they committed a crime. 20:20:46 Q: can't say, can only say 'no evidence' - 20:21:02 JK: no evidence whether she beat dog, children, no evidence. 20:21:19 Q: integrity of agency is at risk. Possibly have people committing crimes, Only way to know is pick up phone, ask FBI to pick up phone and ask them to investigate. 20:21:44 Q: will you call FBI? 20:21:49 JK: at this time, IG;. 20:21:59 Q: not criminal 20:22:04 JK: They have ability. 20:22:09 Q: will you call for investigation. You should call FBI; 20:22:33 JK: not going to call FBI. 20:22:41 Q: issue of your personal integrity. 20:22:48 JK: reject suggestion that my integrity depends on calling FBI. IG will issue report. 20:23:02 Q: believe it was a crime, others involved, emails missing could show that, you can't tell me wrong, as commish, you should call FBI. 20:23:24 JOHN TIERNEY - D-massachusetts 20:23:44 Issa: Yield? No. Suspend. 20:23:58 Issa: Caution all members not to characterize the intent or character of members here on dais. 20:24:13 JK: fair game to question integrity of witness? 20:24:20 Issa: Rules of House speak to questioning the integrity of members. Would caution all of us, while Chair questioned testimony was truth or whoel truth, to question motives of witness should be done; 20:25:04 Horsford: has chmn violated own rules? 20:25:26 Issa: State as point of order. 20:25:41 Tierney: Members should reflect credibility on House. People watching today can decide. IG's responsibility to file a report and make recommendations. Or reviewing report, you or others might make recommendations. 20:26:17 JK: correct. 20:26:21 Q: not to that point? 20:26:27 JK: correct 20:26:31 Q: shoot; aim. 20:26:37 Q: discussed tonight anything on subject that wasn't discussed last Friday. 20:26:50 JK: no 20:26:52 Q: testify tmrw, 24th - had they been in touch with you. 20:27:05 JK: Asked whether I was available in morning on Tues; wasn't so went with afternoon. 20:27:21 Q: voluntarily? 20:27:25 JK: always 20:27:29 Q: subpoenaed tonight? (yes) Asked to come voluntarily? (no); explain why urgent? (no). 20:27:59 Q: some might speculate that Camp couldn't do job, suspect, or some kind of competition going on here. But when Chmn Camp heard subpoena, notified of Friday? 20:28:26 JK: Staff needed to know whether available Friday, I told them I could. 20:28:41 Q: how long? 20:28:44 JK: 4.5 hours, 45 minute recess. 20:28:51 Q: I would think all that time that tonight's hearing might be redundant. 20:29:01 JK: similarities to Friday. 20:29:07 Q: only thing different is Chmn Issa has invited Jennifer O'Connor to testify tmrw. Know her (no). Know whether she worked at IRS (understand she did); left in Nov? (understanding). Before emails discovered missing? (yes). 20:29:47 Q: where she works now (WH). Trump Camp? Hope that members will reflect credibility of the House. 20:30:17 JOHN DUNCAN (R-TENNESSEE): in free country, no group of individuals should be targeted. On march 26, Koksinen said no targeting. 20:31:57 Q: more anger today towards IRS than any time in my lifetime 20:33:33 ISSA: knew there was a problem? Sequence problem? 20:33:46 Q: did you ask about problem? 20:33:58 JK: no, 200 people working this issue, said they'd let me know. 20:34:11 Q: took this long to find out missing ones from Lois Lerner? Almost a year? 20:34:22 JK: Took about two months - nobody knew there was a problem. 20:34:33 Q: Inconsistence? 20:34:39 Yes. 20:34:43 Q: why when asked will you deliver, you said you'd find Lerner emails. 20:34:53 Q: Knew there was a problem 20:34:58 JK: nobody knew the ramifications; searched files, at time testified, no one had idea whther emails missing or not. 20:35:21 Q: were you aware? 20:35:25 JK: No 20:35:27 Q: IT people? 20:35:33 JK: IT people were. In late February. 20:35:51 STEPHEN LYNCH (D-MASSACHUSETTS): focused on the evidence. Surprised.originally invited by Camp to testify, then seems like when Issa found out, you were subpoenaed to testify before; then Camp jumps in front of him; billboards, video clip - great showmanship. Worried there'll be a 16-piece orchestra to complete show. 20:37:00 Q: Serious issues, but all fanfare clouding over, disservice to ppl we represent. Would like to focus on the evidence. Going back to the heart of this issue, we did have a situation, that they were using search terms, such as Tea Party, patriots, 9/12, BOLO for groups applying with characteristics. Govt spending, debt, taxes. Stmts criticizing how country was run. That's evidence. When IRS goes after citizens because of this criteria. That is relevant. That's not all they looked for. Search terms regarding progressive, 501c applications, any successor organizations to ACORN. Widespread - not just going after conservative groups, but American citizen. Agree? 20:38:58 JK: Evidence 20:39:02 Q: When emails go missing for 27 months, you realize how that feeds into suspiscion something is going on here. 20:39:26 JK: we found 24K emails in that period. 20:39:34 Q: I think you went at it honestly. When IG looked at it, he was looking at search term, did he look at other issue of missing emails? Was that known to him? 20:39:56 JK: Not known to anyone at that time. IG didn't look at that. He has started investigation of that now. 20:40:18 Q: look at how emails went missing? 20:40:31 JK: should and is, will provide a public report to investigators. 20:40:45 Q: Issa: other drives? 20:40:51 JK: at this point there aren't. Last week said look at other 82 custodians; not clear if emails lost. 20:41:17 Q: Issa: don't know - there may be others? 20:41:25 Issa: enters April report into record, debunks that progressives targeted 20:42:19 PATRICK MCHENRY: understand the fuss and fury? 20:42:33 JK: I understand, having been around Washington, if there has been a hard drive crash, and emails disappeared, matter should be revealed, Appears she was working hard to retrieve emails. 20:43:04 Q: you had ability to share in real time? Why not? 20:43:14 JK: Judgment was share when we had complete view. 20:43:26 Q: for me, this is not about you, or anybody up here, it's about the American people. Your agency sends fear up the spines of every American. One receipt missing, small biz person searches far and wide. Yet you testified Lerner's hard drive crashed and erased emails from Jan 2009 to April 2011. Time we're concerned about targeting. 20:44:23 Q: when you see that type of thing happening, defies. 20:44:36 JK: From April 2011 to May 2013, have significant emails. Point is question is in period of 24K, what are emails sent outside agency. 20:45:18 Q: not question I'm asking 20:45:31 Q: reason I'm asking is want you to convey to American people that running the IRS - did you get it. understand why American ppl look at this.$2 BN IT budget lets hard drive crash. Ridiculous, beyond comprehension. Lerner is the one searching desperately to find hard drive because it could incriminate her. 20:46:33 Q: JIM JORDAN: what date? 20:46:40 JK: April 20:46:44 Q: Date? 20:46:48 JK: April. 20:47:00 Q: Issa - you only know within a month? Could you provide calendar? 20:47:16 JK: look at the entire month 20:47:20 Q: don't know who - talked with people as it goes along 20:47:30 JK: IDK 20:47:34 Q: you don't know? 20:47:37 JK: only know in April I learned some missing, don't know when or who. 20:47:51 Q: GERALD CONNOLLY: July . 20:48:50 Q: doesn't permit to store all emails in active inboxes. 20:49:04 JK: don't have capacity 20:49:09 Q: why? (expense) 20:49:19 JK: $10 to $30 million. 20:49:27 Q: store on hard drive? 20:49:32 JK: No way to get emails into cloud b/c of sensitivity of info. 20:49:50 Q: hard drives crash in older computers. Replace them every three to four years. How often at IRS 20:50:08 JK: sometimes as long as 5-7 years. 20:50:17 Q: aging PCs? 20:50:21 JK: No doubt. Still have thousands running windows XP, moving onto Windows 7. 20:50:35 Q: surely concern we have up here with hard drives crashing and emails not being properly archived/stored, surely the Congress has provided investment, resources to update computer technology? 20:51:06 JK: we are provided significant amounts of money, but less than we need. Budget has gone down regularly over last four years. 20:51:21 Q: budget cut? 20:51:44 JK: that's right. 20:52:00Amazing given our concerns that we wouldn't be providing you with resources. 20:52:13 Q: Surely that'll change? 20:52:18 JK: we have high hopes. 20:52:34 Q: Surely you've been called to see what help you need? 20:52:49 JK: House appropriations, testified. 20:53:03 Q: heart bled for you. 20:53:08 MICA: enter into record weekend of June 21 that IRS had contract starting in 2005; motto of sonosoft if IRS uses sonosoft to backup, why not protect services? 20:54:16 Q: JORDAN: IRS in feb 2014, identified docs that said Lerner computer failure; during review, data was unrecoverable. Mid-march, knew data unrecoverable. 20:54:54 Q: fine, asked when you learned.according to your definition. 20:55:17 JK: don't remember. 20:55:21 Q: send email? 20:55:24 JK: didn't get emails, sure it was someone in person. 20:55:32 Q: major story in 13 months, and you don't remember being told 20:55:43 JK: don't remember who told me. 20:55:48 Q: something on front page. 20:55:54 JK: big agency with 90K people. In middle of filing season. 20:56:06 Q: what'd you do then? 20:56:11 JK: didn't do anything 20:56:15 Q: didn't tell WH 20:56:19 JK: not what politico reported. Didn't tell treasury. 20:56:31 Q: talk to anyone outside? 20:56:39 Q: knew in April, waited two months. 20:56:48 JK: were going to wait until we could give all emails 20:57:01 Q: wait! 20:57:05 JK: complete production. 20:57:18 Q: tell justice department? Criminal investigation going on. 20:57:27 JK: no evidence. 20:57:32 Q: president said get to bottom of this. 20:57:40 JK: never talked to FBI. 20:57:46 Q: incumbent on commish or IRS. Think about FBI investigation, think that person is in trouble? Heck yea. You didn't tell anybody. 20:58:13 Q: did you tell IG? 20:58:19 JK: no, didn't know whether we lost any. 20:58:26 Q: waited two months. At what point obstruction of justice? When you have that kind of critical info, the fact that you didn't tell us, after this for 13 months, hearing on the 26th, you said you would, learned you can't, then said oh by way. 20:59:10 JK: page 5 20:59:15 Q: tell us; 7 page document 20:59:30 Q: ridiculous. 20:59:39 Issa: Ways and Means referred criminal months ago 20:59:55 JACKIE SPEIER: Badgering witnesses is inappropriate and shameful for this cmte to conduct itself in that manner. 21:00:20 Issa: motion? 21:00:30 Speier: back to basics, respect and decorum, virtually every Republican has done. One member is going to walk out. 21:01:06 Jordan: Please yield? 21:01:12 Speier: Better, but no. 21:01:28 Q: enter into record..(so ordered) 21:01:34 Q: why you are serving our country is beyond me, but thank you. You are sterling example of what we do need in this govt. Knows exactly what they're doing. Not going to be bullied. Based on emails we've obtained, Lerner's harddrive crashed Jun 13, 2011. 21:02:20 JK: correct 21:02:24 Q: first email inappropriate - 21:02:40 JK: correct 21:02:43 Q: June 29, informed that they're using inappropriate search terms. IG didn't start until after computer crashed. Lerner's computer crashed before she was informed employees in Cincy, and before congressional or IRS investigation. 21:03:22 JK: yes, archived, but kept emails in account that didn't go down. 21:03:36 Q: archived b/c you don't have data, have to print emails. That's how archaic it is 21:03:56 Q: hearing last Friday, sprung a document on you, argued that IRS sent letter 10 days before Lerner's computer crashed, Chmn Camp sent a letter, then crash 10 days letter. 21:04:31 Q: copy of Camp letter, question asked to then-commish was whether donation was taxable gifts and if gift return should be filed? It's unsettled area of tax law, but applied in some cases. 21:05:12 JK: correct - application of that law. 21:05:19 Q: nothing to do with issue of 501 c4s and terms to identify? 21:05:41 issa enters report into record (koskinen, this is going to be some record). 21:06:20 Letter from Chmn be placed into record 21:06:50 JASON CHAFFETZ: Backup of emails lasted six months? 21:07:04 JK: Yes 21:07:06 Q: So when Lerner found out her email crashed, why not just go to six month tape? 21:07:24 JK: complicated to actually extract. Not sure why didn't do it. 21:07:38 Q: said extraordinary lengths, (backed up) 21:07:51 JK: All I know is back up tapes put everything in one lump, very costly and difficult. 21:08:08 Q: anybody tried? 21:08:11 JK: no indication anybody did 21:08:18 q: testimony of IRS to try hard, went to great lengths, but backed up on tape and they didn't do it? 21:08:34 JK: as far as I know, but two months. 21:08:43 Q: fortuitous.IG was unaware? 21:08:59 JK: he asked whether IG was aware email crashed, but think they did not know. 21:09:13 Q: nobody informed? 21:09:17 JK: not to my understanding 21:09:22 Q: withholding? 21:09:26 JK: IG has access to all emails. 21:09:43 Q: June 3 2011, page 2 - names of officers of any individuals should be subject to gift rules.organizations will trigger audit.that was 2011, he's asking for all emails - why wasn't it brought to attention of cmte? 21:10:23 JK: at that time? 21:10:25 Q: yea 21:10:28 JK: I wasn't there that time.no idea 21:10:42 Q: august of 2013, known years before that some emails were gone. JK: People knew in 2011 there had been a crash. 21:11:08 Q: did you know? 21:11:11 JK: I did not know. Reviewing entire process. 21:11:21 Q: didn't know if we had them all? 21:11:25 JK: at that time. 21:11:32 Q: did you know that you had all emails 21:11:40 JK: 21:11:50 Q: what percentage? 21:11:55 JK: give you 100 percent of emails we have. 21:12:03 Q: years. 21:12:08 JK: I've been there five / six months. 21:12:14 Q: did nothing to indicate at time? 21:12:24 JK: I have testified I didn't know nature of problem. 21:12:45 TAMMY DUCKWORTH: Really amazing to me to read that IRS requires employees to print or file emails as part of record, but all aren't? Absolutely unacceptable that govt agency can't produce emails requested during investigation. Not just issue w/ IRS, govt wide. 21:14:09 Q: Better records keeping? Steps taken? 21:14:16 JK: asked to develop email system easier to search. Told create broader server.reviewing that.move from paper system to electronic system. 21:14:51 Q: archives/records administration sent letter regarding IRS.. 21:15:03 JK: haven't seen letter 21:15:07 Q: required to request report of investigation of unauthorized disposal of federal records.common place; sent 92 similar requests to Bush administration. 21:15:44 JK: cooperate with all investigations..searched all Lerner emails 21:16:13 Q: Accurate to say when you found out some emails lost, still trying to recover, but located in other hard drives, you could recover that email - existed somewhere else? 21:16:51 JK: yes. 21:16:56 Q: when you found out unlikely to recover, IRS still trying to recover emails from other 82? 21:17:12 JK: correct, still producing emails post-crash, 43K committed to produce. 21:17:28 Q: Fair to say 21:17:36 JK: true, challenge, still moving people off XP to Windows 7 21:17:52 TIM WALBERG: Said Lerner trying to find her emails, understand why there are some Lerner plead Fifth b/c she felt to answer might incriminate her, incrimination could come from information coming in those emails 21:18:39 JK: no way of knowing was her concerns were. 21:18:49 Q: never will.have you fired anybody on your staff that didn't give you enough info so you'd make stmt more accurate? 21:19:18 JK: didn't fire anyone.no basis for firing. 21:19:32 Q: Oversight hearing 21:19:38 JK: great lengths of that hearing were about subpoena, Lerner emails agreed upon. 21:19:51 Q: understand anger? 21:19:56 JK: understand concerns about whether we have all her emails. 21:20:07 Q: isn't much help coming. President himself said May 15 inexcusable. Right to be angry about it.won't tolerate. Power to tax is power to destroy. We've seen that. People w/ First Amendment liberties being targeted by IRS. 21:21:08 You said to me back on March 26, slide from quote. 21:21:41 Q: stand by stmt? 21:21:45 JK: do 21:21:49 Q: issued raised? 21:21:53 JK: satisfied in regard to this issue. 21:21:59 Q: how many hard drives failed? 21:22:06 Since January, 2000. 21:22:11 Q: how many you? 21:22:15 JK: Once. Discusses percentages 21:22:31 Q: all of these people, mysterious experience on this information, information probably caused Lerner to plead fifth. 21:22:53 JK: not mysterious. 21:22:56 Q: mysterious for American people.stonewalling, very disappointed. 21:23:14 Chaffetz: Op-Ed from Chicago Tribune.More smoke from IRS. 21:23:26 STEVEN HORSFORD: Hearing has been quite an embarrassment. Engaged in conspiracy directed by WH, but Cmte nor IG has identified any evidence to back up allegation. Whole charade.motives of hearing itself. Integrity of hearing itself. Fact that Chmn has continued to conclude the outcome w/out allowing the info to be presented in impartial and complete way so members can do our job as we are elected to do. 21:24:43 This is a serious cmte, serious responsibilities, want to get to bottom of things, wrongdoing at IRS, we should fix it. But can't fix it when the House Republicans continue to establish unfounded allegations against what we do have - the facts. Entitled to own opinion, but not own facts 21:25:26 Q: Any evidence IRS employees part of conspiracy? 21:25:36 JK: Not aware of any evidence 21:25:42 Q: same answer from 41 other witnesses. Treasury, IRS, DOJ. Senior group managers came up with screening. 21:26:14 JK: understanding, haven't done any independent investigation. 21:26:22 Q: conservative republican. None of 41 told WH suggested or knew about conduct when it was going on. 21:26:48 JK: My understanding from what I read in newspapers, didn't independently determine that 21:27:06 Q: when IG testified in 2013, asked by Levin whether any evidence of political motivation.IG said we did not. Doubt IG's findings? 21:27:34 JK: I do not. 21:27:36 Q: WH sent a letter to Camp; letter explained WH searched its records and didn't identify any emails from Lerner and executive office of President. (June 18). 21:28:09 Horsford: Allegations are unfounded.hope that we put these reckless accussations to rest and focus on the facts. One statement I agree.public is upset, behavior of chmn and cmte. 21:28:50 Issa: time expired. 21:28:57 Horsford mic cut off. 21:29:05 Issa: article by Josh Hicks.shows that bonuses paid to IRS employees were $89 million.opposed to $10 million to retain critical documents 21:29:33 PAUL GOSAR: do you understand gravity of what America feels in regards to IRS? 21:30:05 JK:. 21:30:19 Q: Nixon Watergate.Judicial watch. 21:31:23 Q: read paper? (yes) should be aware of it. 21:32:05 JK: High profile challenge. That's my approach over 45 years. 21:32:11 Q: divide and conquer? 21:32:44 JK: Hear from frontline workers as well 21:32:52 Q: bothered by Lerner's conduct? Talking question from audience 21:33:02 JK: not normal way people would behave. 21:33:16 Q: taking fifth - odd? 21:33:22 JK: got her own lawyers. 21:33:26 Q: typical? 21:33:32 JK: I'm not aware whether that's way it's done 21:33:40 Q: seen anyone else take fifth? 21:33:50 JK: never seen anyone else take fifth 21:33:59 Q: Gowdy had problem. Trust him. If you had management style. If you knew who told you. 21:34:16 JK: at least five different people reporting to me. 21:34:25 Q: should know.all have same task? 21:34:31 JK: 4-5 involved in production effort, info from several different people. 21:34:51 Scott Desjarlais 21:35:20 Q: number to upgrade? ($10-$30 million). 21:35:43 Q: bonuses.did you know that number. $89 million just in 2012 alone. Could have upgraded equipment. 21:36:15 JK: 89,000 employees.so $1000 each. 21:36:28 Q: $1 million to employees with back taxes. 21:36:40 JK: that issue has come up more recently. 21:36:51 Q: hold everybody to same standards? 21:36:58 JK: same - as we've gone forward, negotiated with union. 21:37:17 Q: did IRS improperly target? 21:37:24 JK: IG report says improper criteria used. Goal is for this not to happen again. 21:37:48 Q: said targeting? Wapo? 21:37:55 JK: used targeting word once, my point is IG report says improper criteria 21:38:26 Q: ever coached to say it that way? More palatable? 21:38:37 JK: no, that's what IG report says 21:38:43 Q: nobody? 21:38:46 JK: nobody tells me what to say. IG report said inappropriate criteria. 21:39:00 Q: leadership at top? 21:39:06 JK: believe leadership at top 21:39:13 Q: special prosecutor? 21:39:17 JK: now six; seven investigations. Once IG gives report, start to decide next step. 21:39:37 Q: clean image of IRS? 21:39:42 JK: clean when we hear from IG and see whether he finds any malfeasance. 21:39:58 TREY GOWDY: Explain was foliation of evidence? 21:40:19 JK: No idea 21:40:27 Q: if you fail to keep documents, jury infers - foliation of evidence. 21:40:46 JK: practiced law, gave it up for lent, never went back. 21:40:56 Q: when party has duty to preserve evidence, negative to infer. Right to infer. 21:41:20 JK: if you destroy evidence and people could prove it, not good. 21:41:33 Q: negative inference.they failed to keep documents, draw negative inference. So if it's true it applies to taxpayer? 21:41:52 JK: trial? Jury? 21:41:56 Q: I'm glad you mentioned it. Said multiple times that no evidence you found of criminal wrongdoing. 21:42:15 Q: what statutes? 21:42:22 JK: none 21:42:27 Q: don't know what's at play? What did you evaluate? 21:42:37 JK: common sense 21:42:40 Q: you have said today no evidence of criminal wrongdoing. I'm asking what you reviewed? 21:42:52 JK: None 21:42:55 Q: You have no idea. 21:43:01 JK: No evidence of wrongdoing. 21:43:09 Q: What did Lerner say FCC will save day? 21:43:21 JK: No idea? 21:43:25 Q: 1842..violation? you haven't looked. 21:43:38 jk: w/ regard to production of Lerner emails, no evidence of wrongdoing. What else went on with Lois Lerner. 21:43:58 Q: you're just saying you didn't engage in any? 21:44:04 Q: no saying no criminal with regard to targeting 21:44:15 JK: people making judgments. 21:44:24 Q: we will never know bc/ you didn't keep the evidence. 21:44:35 JK: no emails from WH, have all treasury emails, so basic argument. 21:44:48 Q: you're repeating a talking point. Jay Carney perpetuated myth it was two rouge agents. 21:45:05 JK: not that I know of 21:45:08 Q: who said not a smidgeon of corruption? 21:45:21 JK: president 21:45:25 Q: you want to blame us for bringing WH into it? 21:45:32 JK: all I said is WH revealed no lois lerner emails. To extend that Lerner was conspiring, haven't seen. 21:45:58 BLAKE FARENTHOLD: People in district frustrated.if we came back and said don't have resources to comply with tax law, wouldn't let me skate. 21:47:02 JK: Done by office of information and regulatory affairs. 21:47:13 Q: familiar with federal records act. 21:47:21 JK: yes 21:47:23 Q: reads act.your IRS manual says print out emails. Who decides? 21:47:42 JK: employees provided b/g and they make decision. 21:47:52 Q: so if they don't like it. 21:47:59 JK: trained many. 21:48:04 Q: in response, you indicated search terms. 21:48:12 JK: search terms for all 21:48:16 Q: how for hard copy emails? Go through records? 21:48:23 JK: Yes 21:48:33 Q: easier in electronic form 21:48:41 JK: no doubt 21:48:48 Q: print records out.so I did google search.average side of word document. 64,782 of 9 pages per gigabyte, terabyte is 64.8 million documents. Terabyte hard drive for $60; buy two.cost to print is 5 to eight cents.looks to me like for every terabytes, you'd save $21 million in printing fees. 21:50:07 Q: spend $5K; 21:50:25 JK: not in our system you can't. 21:50:32 Q: not in exchange server? 21:50:41 JK: I'm told $10 million.. If we're printing $21 million. 21:51:08 THOMAS MASSIE: 21:51:46 JK: email was in her account, she had that email, focused on hard drive where she had archived. 21:51:58 Q: they're saying it's gone, but what about emails from servers? 21:52:17 JK: haven't seen anything about backup tapes. 21:52:26 Q: Was hard drive replaced? 21:52:35 JK: Yes, IG has it. 21:52:42 Q: could we see if she was deleting emails? 21:52:59 JK: haven't looked at that, but produced all these emails, possible to take a look 21:53:10 Q: 3-5% hard drives failed, 1/30.Camp sent letter to IRS; hard drive failed in 10 days, probability is 1 in 1000. 21:53:48 JK: not way probability works - same probability - flip a coin. 21:53:53 Q: I took class at MIT. 21:54:11 JK: must have taken a different probability class. 21:54:21 Q: 21:54:26 JK: don't know what the list looks like. 21:54:39 Q: 21:54:41 JK: Investigating.will provide a full report. 21:54:53 Q: not questioning your integrity. But question your judgment not sharing information with us. Had suspicion.bad news never gets better with age. What I want to ask you, any other anomalies in data or retrieval that you can think of now? 21:55:30 JK: Not aware of any.other than pursuing other custodians. 21:55:48 Q: similar bad news,.share it now 21:55:55 JK: don't know of any other bad news as you put it. 21:56:01 Q: if we had a flat tax or fair tax? 21:56:09 JK: support chmn camp, be helpful if I can. 21:56:27 Q; DOUG COLLINS: Imagination.Agency in Cincy decides to look into certain files.don't tell Washington or anyone else know. When Chmn of our Cmte makes an inquiry, hard drive fails, two weeks later.then Cincinnati tells.seen Fifth taken. 22:02:35 MARK MEADOWS: What records do you keep? 22:03:06 JK: anything about impt policies. 22:03:15 Q: anything in transaction of agency actions. 22:03:24 JK: exam 22:03:27 Q: none of Lerner's emails are part? 22:03:40 JK: provided printed emails 22:03:45 Q: all? 22:03:50 JK: not all are record 22:03:54 Q: I haven't read many, but of the 67K, many are not official record. 22:04:14 Q: says they need to be machine readable 22:04:23 Q: If I'm following your manual..breaking law? 22:05:10 JK: didn't advise archivist.didn't know whether official records or not. 22:05:32 Q: letter from Archives expressing concern? 22:05:41 Q: really a money problem? 22:05:52 JK: would be in much better shape, told we didn't have funds to do it. 22:06:05 Q: if you don't have money to comply, that's ok? Ok to break law as long as they don't have money? 22:06:16 JK: don't think we established that IRS broke the law. 22:06:28 Q: some records are missing 22:06:35 JK: no idea.there are missing emails 22:06:39 Q: reasonable person think in thousands of emails, one official record 22:07:04 JK: we don't know if thousands are missing 22:07:12 Q: reasonable person? 22:07:16 JK: last time I checked 22:07:21 Q: are you aware $49 million spent on conferences.2010-2012, according to TIGTA. 22:07:47 JK: not aware of number. 22:07:53 Q: think you could have moved some of that $49 million? 22:08:05 JK: don't know details or those events, resolved long before I arrived. 22:08:26 Q: issa follows up, I don't know. If there was money wasted, could have been used for this purpose. 22:08:41 KERRY BENTIVILIO: Who reports regularly? 22:09:03 Q: names and titles? 22:09:08 JK: Happy to provide them 22:09:15 Q: objectivity vs neutrality? 22:09:28 JK: 22:09:32 Q: synonyms; no judgment; no stance 22:09:47 JK: every American has an interest. 22:09:55 Q: non partisan? 22:09:58 JK: non-partisan, but doesn't mean don't have an interest 22:10:09 Q: back? 22:10:14 JK: Hatch act. 22:10:17 Q: official duty? 22:10:20 JK: prohibited 22:10:29 Q: lose their jobs? 22:10:32 JK: I think so, there are professionals. 22:11:08 JK: I'm objective about it, comes with the territory. 22:11:20 Q: seems to me, if someone was carried away, apologize, fix it. But IRS isn't doing that. 22:11:34 JK: Weurfel and I said if anyone targeted, discriminated, I'm committed won't happen again. 22:12:01 Q: seems to me should have said, they made a mistake, punish them. 22:12:14 JK: People involved in chain of command are all gone. 22:12:23 Q: all retired? 22:12:26 JK: except ones in 1600 22:12:39 Q: JORDAN: said in april, didn't communicate with WH. April of this year, Treasury, WH counsel; How'd Treasury Chief Counsel find out? 22:13:13 JK: I don't know 22:13:20 Q: so somebody at IRS told chief counsel? 22:13:29 JK: meet regularly 22:13:34 Q: why not tell them? 22:13:38 JK: I don't report to treasury 22:13:46 Q: did you tell someone else to tell WH? 22:13:53 JK: No 22:13:55 Q: who at IRS told counsel? 22:14:07 JK: I don't know who it is. 22:14:15 Q: Send an email to all employees, who ever told WH counsel, I want to know who person is so I can tell Cmte and we can question them. 22:14:45 JK: haven't talked to Treasury. 22:14:56 HOSFORD: over time 22:15:17 Issa: I'm cutting you off again. We will maintain order. Cite within rules a point of order whether rules are being properly adhered to. Speier did a good job. Use a parliamentarian. 22:15:53 Q: RON DESANTIS: Haven't reviewed that letter? 22:16:17 JK: I scanned. 22:16:21 Q: that letter requested docs be backed up 22:16:35 JK: backup tapes.no server 22:16:43 Q: never got emails back, even though Congress requested, IRS didn't care. 22:16:57 JK: Knew there was a problem.advised there was an issue. 22:17:10 Q: you promised cmte, montage, yes we'll do it. Never disclosed there were real problems 22:17:32 JK: I didn't know they were real problems. 22:17:38 Q: in February, what we knew was there was a problem b/c looking at it as timeframe, appeared not enough emails in timeframe. Reason to believe you were short of emails. 22:18:03 JK: review team did that. I knew problem emails spread in timeframe, didn't know details. 22:18:25 Q: chaffetz going back and forth, you told him you'll get emails, stored in servers. Why say that if you knew there was a problem, and backup tapes only saved for six months? 22:18:51 JK: at that time, pulled all of emails and put into server system, way we search them. Pool. 22:19:16 Q: you testified possibility this was coming up short. Chose not to disclose. 22:19:38 Q: why didn't you disclose? 22:19:44 JK: when we'd find out facts of details, I'd explain. Last Monday, learned custodians had hard drive crashes, three days later wrong. 22:20:08 Q: duty of candor to American people. Maybe you weren't kept up, following closely enough, but this is impt. Avg taxpayer presumed guilty. IRS is in situation where they can say computer crash, probability, 10 days after Camp asked for information. Don't think American people are satisfied. 22:21:13 JK: When we're dealing with taxpayers, we are open to producing other evidence consistent. Legal precedent.if actions produce support, acceptable. We'll work w/ taxpayers trying to make sure that any supporting information, we'll take that. 22:22:22 Q: ISSA: Only few members left for 2nd round. 22:23:03 Cummings: 22:23:37 thank you for giving a damn about our country. When under Republican and Dem administrations you have been highly regarded. I've said it before, we're better than that. We are a better country. We are a better committee than that. 22:24:20 When I reviewed IRS employee intvs, said they were constantly asked about their party affiliation and that kind of thing. Some are Republicans, some Democrats, one even described himself as very conservative Republcian, but said they left party hats at the door. 22:25:03 know why? Make sure to do job in a way that was fair to all Americans. And so yeah there are issues, but sometimes I sit here and listen to all of this, and somebody asked me about this cmte, said if you were to leave cmte, what would you most regret? I'd mourn for what could have been. 22:25:45 We are a cmte of OGR, and I'm glad that IRS took nine recommendations of IG, appointed by Rs, same IG that said no WH involvement, but just push facts over there, let's see what we can do to him.but you know what, I care about your reputation. 22:26:47 Then having to come in here, and go through this hell. Don't think anybody up here is perfect. All of us have had problems. All of us are walking wounded, if we aren't we just keep on living. Want to thank you very much. If any kind of inappropriate,. 22:28:14 JORDAN: get all the information, get full story. 22:29:00 JK: had no idea in March whether serious problem, just issue. 22:29:09 Q: your testimony is wanted all the facts, thought that was impt, yet one of your employees told Treasury and WH in early April. So if so impt, why not tell employees not to tell? 22:30:07 JK: Didn't think if somebody - didn't tell anybody what not to do. Said pull all facts, make public disclosure. 22:30:27 Q: not what happened.knew about it, talked in April. That's what we're concerned about. A good manager would say, let's get truth, tell everyone at same time. If it's ok? 22:31:07 JK: wouldn't make a big deal 22:31:12 Q: same party 22:31:14 JK: no idea 22:31:16 Q: WH knew in April 22:31:24 JK: WH found out from Treasury. 22:31:38 Q: Someone from Treasury 22:31:45 JK: yeah 22:31:49 Q: find out who that was. 22:31:57 JK: I'll do my best. 22:32:12 ISSA: Maybe WH wouldn't release same way as House Ways and Means 22:32:35 Q: hasn't WH selectively leaked in past? 22:32:44 JK: don't know 22:32:47 Q: isn't it true when it favors, release? Hold back when don't? 22:32:57 Issa: I'm a little insulted. 22:33:14 Horsford: 22:34:45 Issa repeats assertion, but said something different in previous hearing. As far as you can tell, 2008, and now, is Republican administration then, Dem now. Fact is IRS and many other agencies have struggled for years. GAO, national archivist have reported on problem repeatedly. What can you do on steps taken to restore IRS? 22:35:53 JK: Reviewing all of our activities. Asked at a minimum, create electronic searchable system. 22:37:32 Q: commend you; Oversight Cmte, but also Govt Reform Cmte. Would like to hear your recommendations on how to move forward. Not one hearing on how to implement is a flaw in way. 22:38:40 Massie: Appreciate patience and stamina. One June 3, 2011, Camp letter.requested emails be provided / preserved. Know her hard drive crashed b/c of ticket filed with IT? 22:39:26 JK: correct 22:39:29 Q: would you provide all tickets? (JK, yes) 22:39:40 Issa: nearing the end. You say you didn't know Lerner. 22:40:12 JK: assume it was office computer. 22:40:20 Issa: employees download emails to laptops and leave building. (Office computer is often laptop). To your knowledge are laptops limited so they may not employ USB drives? 22:41:01 JK: they are now, years ago, thumb drives were usable, but all encrypted. 22:41:32 Q: also Best Buy, Lerner's laptop, if it had USB to local drive, could have moved them to USB external drives or thumb drives. 22:41:59 JK: sounds right. 22:42:03 Q: so for American people, possible, probably that every day individuals leave IRS on laptops that they take home. 22:42:25 JK: correct to my knowledge. 22:42:32 Q: so Lerner, an attorney, may have made a copy, could have it on USB product, or any kind or product? 22:42:48 JK: that's correct 22:42:53 Q: Lerner may have made copies of this before failure. When DOJ, was she asked those questions? 22:43:09 JK: I have no idea 22:43:13 Q: did she have USB or product? 22:43:17 JK: I have no knowledge 22:43:21 Q: laptop or dual purpose? 22:43:26 JK: I don't know. 22:43:31 Q: 90,000 computers that use local hard drives to store info and emails instead of on the server because disappears? 22:43:54 JK: server will keep until 6K, then notice to archive; backup tapes are separate. 22:44:17 Q: I spent a lot of time in electronics, passion for this.aware that if you back up system every six months, the cost we'd be looking at would be cost of tape drive.wouldn't be $10 million 22:45:00 JK: don't think so. 22:45:03 Q: with limited budget, if you bought 12 sets of cartridges. Could have backed up systems.for fraction? 22:45:30 JK: correct, but simply - if not searchable. 22:45:46 Q: when Waxman, conversion from LOTUS, failed to have good backups. Restored countless emails so Presidential records act would be upheld. Waxman didn't care it cost 24 million. Cmte did image-back restorations. Had you done, had IRS done, $10s of thousands of dollars. 22:46:47 JK: would have cost a lot of money to get emails off recovery tapes. That's not what disaster recovery tapes are meant to do 22:47:14 Q: why cost so much, we only wanted Lerner emails 22:47:24 Q: I'll read you a piece of it. Andrew Jackson, still burned and complaining through Congress, petitions in 1803 to recover for loss of revenues.put that in record b/c National Archives and Archivist maintains amazing amount of documents and recovers. Gen. Jackson wanting money back may not be anything but humorous, but part of wealth of information American people have access to across the street. 22:48:58 Q: you said more money if maintain records, hope that when you scrub that $10 million and go back and ask whether to meet requirement of national archives having access to wealth they need. 22:49:32 Q: Horsford correct, maintain transparency, for the next generation as much information as we possibly can. 22:50:28 Q: lastly, guess $111 per employee computer, could easily have covered by downgrading local drives.very little reason to have large local drives. 22:50:59 Q: Lastly, sent 50 questions Saturday afternoon..48 hours.no response other than short oral briefing. 22:51:23 JK: hard to get people together on Sunday. 22:51:35 Q: eight hours of workday today, there'll be additional questions.see if you can figure out whether 1st of April you learned, seven days after you testified, and narrow down who told you about it? 22:52:11 Q: question about how WH came to know.for that purpose, we will now recess. Pleased to adjourn, for now recess subject to recall.

The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform will hold a hearing to examine issues surrounding the Department of the Interior's oversight of offshore oil drilling, including issues regarding the reorganization of the Minerals Management Service (MMS). The hearing will also examine how the reorganization of MMS, now known as the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management Regulation and Enforcement, will improve the oversight of the offshore oil and gas industry. The hearing will take place at 10:00 a.m. in room 2154 Rayburn House Office Building. SWITCHED CAMERA House Oversight and Government Reform with Ken Salazar, Michael Bromwich, the Interior IG, Charlotte Randolph, the president of Lafourche Parish, Louisiana and others 11:00:00 PRODUCTION OPERATIONS IN THE GULF THAT LACK FINAL PLANS UNTIL 11:00:03 AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY IS PROVING THAT THEY ARE OPERAING 11:00:09 WITH COMPLETE SETS OF ENGINEER-APPROVED DRAWINGS FOR 11:00:13 THE ABOVE AND BELOW-SEA COMPONENT, MR. BROMWICH SOME 11:00:18 CONGRESSMAN, YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION 11:00:21 ONGOING. YOU ARE ALSO CORRECT THAT IT 11:00:22 WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. 11:00:24 I AM ADVISED THAT THERE IS A LETTER ON ITS WAY TO ME THAT 11:00:27 WILL UPDATE YOU AND OTHER INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE 11:00:30 COMMITTEE WITH WHAT I ANTICIPATE WILL BE PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF 11:00:33 THAT INVESTIGATION. THE TRUTH IS I HAVE SPENT THE 11:00:36 BULK OF THE MONTH SINCE I CAME ONBOARD DEALING WITH VARIOUS 11:00:40 OFFSHOOTS OF THE DEEPWATER HORIZON MATTER. 11:00:43 SO I AM NOT AS FULLY AWARE OF THE ATLANTIS MATTER AS YOU WOULD 11:00:46 LIKE IT TO BE, BUT I WILL MAKE IT MY BUSINESS TO BECOME MORE 11:00:50 KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT IT AND BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT 11:00:53 FURTHER IN THE NEAR FUTURE. MR. BROMWICH, I APPRECIATE 11:00:58 THAT RESPONSE, BUT IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO YOU TO REVIEW THE 11:01:02 LETTER SENT BACK IN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 20th, 2010, SIGNED BY 11:01:06 19 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS INCLUDING MYSELF WHICH PROVIDES A VERY 11:01:10 POWERFUL WARNING ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT HAVING AN 11:01:16 APPROPRIATE INSPECTION OF THE ISSUE RELATING TO ENGINEERING 11:01:23 PLANS AT THAT BP ATLANTIS PLATFORM. 11:01:25 I WILL REVIEW THAT. YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. 11:01:26 YOU ARE DEALING WITH A CATASTROPHE FROM THE LACK OF 11:01:30 APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT AT DEEPWATER HORIZON. 11:01:32 WHAT I'M MAINTAINING TO YOU AND WHAT OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS 11:01:37 HAVE ALL JOINED TOGETHER IN ASSERTING IS THAT LACK OF 11:01:40 APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT ALSO EXISTS WITH RESPECT TO A BP 11:01:46 ATLANTIS PLATFORM WHICH COULD HAVE EVEN MORE CATASTROPHIC 11:01:53 IMPLICATIONS THAN THE DEEPWATER HORIZON DISASTER. 11:01:56 I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. I YIELD BACK. 11:01:58 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, CONGRESSMAN KUCINICH. 11:02:01 I MAY WANT TO SUPPLEMENT WITH WHAT DIRECTOR BROMWICH SAID BY 11:02:06 SAYING THE INVESTIGATION IS UNDER WAY AND HE WILL KEEP YOU 11:02:10 POSTED AS TO THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION. 11:02:12 NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE SENT INSPECTORS OUT INTO THE GULF TO 11:02:17 LOOK AT THE DRILLING AS WELL AS THE PRODUCTION PLATFORMS AND SO 11:02:21 THERE IS AN ONGOING INSPECTION EFFORT UNDER WAY AND NUMBER 11:02:24 THREE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD COME OUT OF THE LESSONS 11:02:28 LEARNED HERE IS YOU CANNOT HAVE 60 INSPECTORS HAVING THE 11:02:33 RESPONSIBILITY OF CONDUCTING THE MASSIVE JOB THAT HAS BEEN 11:02:36 ASSIGNED TO THESE INSPECTORS AND THAT IS WHY THERE IS A BUDGET 11:02:41 AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF THE CONGRESS TO BEEF UP THE LEVEL OF 11:02:44 INSPECTION AND INVESTIGATION CAPABILITY WITHIN THE AGENCY. 11:02:47 MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO BE ON NOTICE 11:02:50 THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIND OUT WHETHER BP HAS CERTIFIED 11:02:54 AS-BUILT DRAWINGS ON FILE. THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER 11:02:59 ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF DEEPWATER HORIZON. 11:03:01 THANK YOU. GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 11:03:03 I YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, 11:03:06 CONGRESSMAN MICA. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, 11:03:09 MR. SECRETARY. I RAISE SOME QUESTIONS IN MY 11:03:13 COUPLE OF MINUTES OF THE OPENING STATEMENT. 11:03:15 I THINK EVERYONE HAS TO BE BAFFLED BY THE ADMINISTRATION'S 11:03:18 DEVELOPMENT OF POLICY. YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE 11:03:22 NOMINATED, I THINK BACK BY THE PRESIDENT. 11:03:26 PEOPLE WERE PLEASED. WE HAD SOMEONE FROM THE CONGRESS 11:03:29 AND YOUR EXPERIENCE FROM THE POSITION. 11:03:31 SO YOU CAME IN IN 2009. YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO 11:03:35 DEVELOP BUDGET AND POLICY, I WOULD IMAGINE, AND I WAS KIND OF 11:03:40 SHOCKED AGAIN WHEN THE STAFF GAVE ME THE BUDGET AND IT SHOWED 11:03:45 CUTS LIKE $2 MILLION IN THE MINERAL MANAGEMENT ENVIRONMENTAL 11:03:51 PERMIT ACTIVITY THAT WAS PROPOSED BY YOUR AGENCY. 11:03:53 DID YOU PARTICIPATE IN MAKING DECISIONS ON THAT OR AGAIN, THE 11:03:58 PRIMARY AGENCY FOR RESPONSE IN THESE KINDS OF DISASTERS WOULD 11:04:02 BE THE COAST GUARD. THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED 1100 11:04:07 POSITIONS CUT -- CUTTING ASSETS, SHIPS, PLANES, HELICOPTERS, ALL 11:04:11 OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD USE IN A RESPONSE. 11:04:14 WERE YOU PART OF THE DECISION TO MAKE THOSE CUTS EITHER IN YOUR 11:04:21 AGENCY? MAYBE NOT COAST GUARD? 11:04:23 CONGRESSMAN MICA, WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET THAT HAS 11:04:26 BEEN SUBMITTED TO MMS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEN-YEAR 11:04:30 HISTORY OF THE BUDGET. THERE HAD BEEN EROSION WITHIN 11:04:33 THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR MMS AS WELL AS WITH ALL -- 11:04:38 WITH -- LET ME JUST FINISH, WITH 11:04:40 RESPECT TO THE OTHER AGENCIES IN THE INTERIOR INCLUDING MMS, A 11:04:44 VERY SIGNIFICANT EROSION AFTER WE CAME ONBOARD. 11:04:47 YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE INSPECTORS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN 11:04:50 THE BUDGET FOR MMS ARE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM WHAT 11:04:55 HAD BEEN THERE IN THE PAST. THE QUESTION THAT WAS 11:04:57 APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND FOR THE CONGRESS IS THAT 11:05:00 NUMBER SUFFICIENT AND IN OUR VIEW IT IS NOT. 11:05:02 WE HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. 11:05:04 ALL I CAN GO BY THE BUDGET ASKED IS IS IF YOU WERE THERE WHEN THE 11:05:07 DECISION WAS MADE TO CUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW ACTIVITIES 11:05:11 WHICH ALSO REVIEWED PERMITS AND THEN THE NEXT THING IS THIS IS 11:05:18 FEBRUARY, IT CAME OUT. IN MARCH DID YOU PARTICIPATE IN 11:05:23 THE DECISION TO EXPAND DRILLING IN THE GULF AND OTHER AREAS? 11:05:27 THE -- WERE YOU CONSULTED? 11:05:30 IS THERE ANY DOCUMENTATION? NOT THAT I WAS CONSULTED. 11:05:33 IT WAS MY DECISION, AND IT WAS MY PLAN AND IT'S A PLAN THAT I 11:05:36 AM VERY -- THAT IS A VERY WELL-THOUGHT-OUT PLAN RELATIVE 11:05:42 TO MOVING FORWARD IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY THAT CHANGES THE 11:05:45 DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GOING ON IN THE OC IS THAT DOES DIFFERENT 11:05:48 THINGS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WAS BEING PLANNED ON THE ATLANTIC 11:05:51 AND THE -- AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WAS BEING PLANNED IN 11:05:54 ALASKA AND BRINGS IN THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS THAT ARE 11:05:59 NECESSARY. AGAIN, LET'S GO TO THAT. 11:06:02 YOU WERE THERE WHEN THEY ISSUED THIS ONE-PAGE PERMIT AND THIS IS 11:06:05 THE PERMIT TO DRILL FOR BP, ONE-PAGE. 11:06:10 THIS IS BACKED UP BY A 500-PAGE CLEANUP SPILL PLAN. 11:06:16 I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T REVIEW THIS, BUT YOU TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE WHO 11:06:21 ARE RESPONSIBLE IN ALL WERE FIRED AND PEOPLE CHANGED. 11:06:26 HAVE WE GOT THAT ORGANIZATION CHART? 11:06:28 THE GUY THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGNING THIS. 11:06:31 WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE HERE AND TOLBERT SIGNED IT FOR SAUCIER. 11:06:40 HE'S STILL THERE. HE'S GOT THAT CIRCLE THERE, THAT 11:06:43 YELLOW THING. SO HE WASN'T FIRED. 11:06:47 HE GAVE CARTE BLANCHE. THIS IS THE APPROVAL FOR BP TO 11:06:50 DRILL AND THE CONDITIONS BY WHICH THEY DRILL AND IT REFERRED 11:06:54 TO A 500-PAGE DOCUMENT. THAT 500-PAGE DOCUMENT I'VE -- 11:07:02 MY STAFF TELLS ME IT HAS BILL PROVISIONS FOR SEALS AND 11:07:10 WALRUSES AND POLAR BEARS. NONE OF WHICH I HAVE IN THE 11:07:13 GULF. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS ALL SORT 11:07:16 OF CARTE BLANCHE APPROVAL. IS THAT WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE? 11:07:20 AND IS THIS GUY GOING TO GET FIRED OR ANYONE -- AND THIS GUY 11:07:25 IS STILL MAKING THE DECISIONS. THIS IS SAUCIER AND HERE MAKING 11:07:30 THE DECISION ON IMPLEMENTING THE MORATORIUM. 11:07:34 CONGRESSMAN MICA, LET ME RESPOND WITH TWO POINTS. 11:07:39 FIRST, WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT PEOPLE COMMITTED BOTH CRIMINAL 11:07:45 AND ETHICAL CONDUCT THAT IS -- WRONG -- 11:07:49 AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE -- LET ME FINISH, CONGRESSMAN 11:07:53 MICA. THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT THERE 11:07:56 ARE VERY -- THERE ARE MANY GOOD PEOPLE WITHIN THE AGENCY. 11:08:00 THERE ARE SOME BAD PEOPLE AND THOSE ARE BEING DEALT WITH. 11:08:03 WITH RESPECT TO THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO AND 11:08:07 WITH RESPECT TO PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED CONCERNING THE 11:08:10 APPROVALS OF THE MA CONNEDA WELLS, I HAVE ASKED THE 11:08:14 INSPECTOR GENERAL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THEY HAVE TAKEN OUR 11:08:17 OWN INDEPENDENT REVIEW WHICH WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH 11:08:20 MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. I APPRECIATE A LIST AND THE 11:08:24 STATUS OF THOSE HELD RESPONSIBLE. 11:08:27 THANK YOU. MAYBE WE CAN SUBMIT THAT TO THE 11:08:29 COMMITTEE. WITHOUT OBJECTION. 11:08:30 NOW I YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLE LADY FROM CALIFORNIA, 11:08:38 MISS BEARD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 11:08:41 THANK YOU TO THE SECRETARY AND MR. BROMWICH. 11:08:43 A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. FROM THE OUTSIDE THERE IS AN 11:08:47 ETHICAL CRISIS AT MMS, WHETHER YOU CHANGE THE NAME OR NOT, 11:08:51 THERE HAS BEEN A HISTORY OF DRUGS, SEX, ROCK 'N' ROLL 11:08:57 CONCERTS AND I AM CONCERNED BASED ON THE POST ARTICLE TODAY 11:09:02 THAT SAYS THERE IS A MUCH HIGHER DEGREE OF REVOLVING DOOR THAT 11:09:06 EXISTS IN THE OIL INDUSTRY THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THAT THREE OUT 11:09:11 OF EVERY FOUR LOBBYISTS HAD SOME RELATIONSHIP TO THE GOVERNMENT. 11:09:17 WE KNOW THERE ARE 12 FORMER EMPLOYEES OF MM IS THAT ARE NOW 11:09:22 LOBBYING FOR THE OIL INDUSTRY. MR. BROMWICH AND SECRETARY, I 11:09:25 WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NOW TO FREEZE OUT 11:09:30 THOSE 12 FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM INTERACTING WITH MMS? 11:09:34 WELL, WE WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY OBSERVE THE 11:09:38 CURRENT ETHICAL RULES THAT EXIST, THAT RESTRICT THEIR 11:09:43 CONTRACTS TO SOME EXTENT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE TO DO 11:09:45 IS TO GATHER INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE INFORMATION, 11:09:49 IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE FORMER EMPLOYEES OF THE AGENCY. 11:09:54 I'M NOT GOING TO EXCLUDE THEM FOR THAT REASON, BUT I'M 11:09:56 CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GIVE THEIR INFORMATION ANY MORE 11:09:59 WEIGHT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. I AGREE. 11:10:01 I READ THE SAME ARTICLE YOU DID AND I'M TROUBLED BY IT. 11:10:06 I THINK WHAT I CAN TELL YOU AND TELL THE COMMITTEE IS THAT 11:10:09 YOU'LL NEVER SEE ME IN THAT POSITION. 11:10:12 I'LL SAY RIGHT NOW THAT I'LL SELF-IMPOSE A LIFETIME BAN ON 11:10:17 CONTACTS WITH THE AGENCY, AND I HOPE THAT SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR 11:10:21 OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AGENCY AND OTHER PEOPLE THROUGHOUT 11:10:24 GOVERNMENT. I AGREE IT IS UNSEEMLY. 11:10:26 I GUESS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, CAN YOU TAKE ACTION INDEPENDENT 11:10:30 OF CONGRESS PASSING A BILL TO RESTRICT FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM 11:10:34 HAVING ACCESS TO THE AGENCY? WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU AN 11:10:37 EXAMPLE. I'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH TWO OF 11:10:39 THE FORMER DIRECTORS WHO ARE NOW PART OF TRADE ASSOCIATIONS 11:10:43 WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. THAT WAS AT YOUR REQUEST. 11:10:46 NO. IT WAS AT THEIR REQUEST, BUT I 11:10:48 AM IN THE BUSINESS RIGHT NOW OF TRYING TO GATHER INFORMATION 11:10:51 FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES, INCLUDING FROM TRADE 11:10:55 ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION TO PROVIDE 11:10:58 BEARING ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE SECRETARY AND I ARE 11:11:01 WORKING ON. I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM A 11:11:04 HEARING, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO GIVE ALL OTHER GROUPS INCLUDING 11:11:08 ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, INCLUDING -- 11:11:10 I UNDERSTAND THAT. I HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME. 11:11:13 OKAY. MY QUESTION WAS CAN YOU ACT 11:11:16 INDEPENDENT OF CONGRESS IN CREAING SOME RESTRICTIONS 11:11:18 AROUND ACCESS TO THE AGENCY AFTER EMPLOYEES HAVE LEFT? 11:11:21 YES, WE CAN, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY. 11:11:25 SO YOU REPORT BACK ONCE YOU DECIDED WHAT YOU WILL DO WITH 11:11:29 THE COMMITTEE? SURE. 11:11:30 THE GAO REPORT TO THIS COMMIT I INDICATED THAT THE REVENUE 11:11:35 SHARE THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTS FOR OIL AND GAS PRODUCED IN THE 11:11:37 GULF RANKS 93rd OUT OF 104 REVENUE COLLECTION REGIMES 11:11:45 AROUND THE WORLD. I THINK MOST OF US FIND THAT 11:11:48 STUNNING AND SHOCKING. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO 11:11:55 CHANGE THAT SO THAT THE ROYALTIES BEING RECEIVED FROM 11:12:01 THE GULF ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE. 11:12:07 AT LEAST THE INTERNATIONAL AVERAGE OF ROYALTIES RECEIVED 11:12:09 AROUND THE WORLD? CONGRESSWOMAN SPEAR, LET ME 11:12:14 JUST SAY THAT THE ROYALTY ISSUE IN GETTING A FAIR RETURN TO THE 11:12:18 AMERICAN TAXPAYER IS FOREMOST IN OUR MINDS. 11:12:21 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT IT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND 11:12:26 WE HAVE WAYS TO CHANGE HOW TO MAKE THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER IS 11:12:31 GETTING A FAIR RETURN ON ROYALTIES, NOT ONLY ON THE 11:12:33 OFFSHORE, BUT ALSO ON THE OFFSHORE WHEN YOU HAVE A 11:12:37 CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IS WORSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE SAME ROYALTY RATE 11:12:39 THAT EXISTED SINCE THE 1920 MINERAL LEASING ACT AT 12.5%. 11:12:44 SO WE ARE MAKING THE KINDS OF CHANGES THAT WILL BRING IN THE 11:12:48 RIGHT LEVEL OF ROYALTIES AND AT THE SAME TIME MAKE SURE THAT 11:12:51 THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY WITH RESPECT TO THE AUDITING 11:12:55 FUNCTIONS RELATING TO THAT. AND WHEN WILL THOSE BE PUT 11:12:58 INTO PLACE AND DO YOU NEED CONGRESSIONAL ACTION TO DO THAT 11:13:03 IN. WE ARE WORKING ON IT. 11:13:06 WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. IT IS BEING PUT INTO PLACE AS WE 11:13:10 SPEAK. THE ROYALTY WAS PART OF THAT 11:13:13 EFFORT. THAT'S GOOD NEWS TO HEAR. 11:13:14 ONE LAST QUESTION. MY UNDERSTANDING ALONG WITH 11:13:18 CONGRESSMAN MICA'S REFERENCE IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR 600-PAGE 11:13:22 DOCUMENT WAS REVIEWED BY TWO PEOPLE FOR A TOTAL OF TEN HOURS. 11:13:28 SO BY ANYONE'S MEASUREMENT IT WAS INADEQUATE. 11:13:32 I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE A SPEED READER, THERE IS IS NO WAY THAT 11:13:36 IN TEN HOURS YOU CAN GIVE THE KIND OF ATTENTION TO THAT 11:13:40 DOCUMENT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING MOVING 11:13:41 FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THE EMPLOYEES DOING THAT KIND OF 11:13:45 REVIEW ARE BOTH QUALIFIED AND HAVE ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO 11:13:48 DO THE REVIEW? WITH THE REORGANIZATION THAT 11:13:52 WE HAVE PUT ON THE TABLE AND THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ASKED 11:13:56 FROM CONGRESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE RIGHT KIND OF WORK IN 11:14:00 ENSURING SAFETY AND ENSURING ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SHOULD 11:14:04 ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. THE GENTLE LADY'S TIME IS 11:14:09 EXPIRED. I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN TURNER. 11:14:13 THANK YOU. MR. SECRETARY, I HAVE A FEW 11:14:16 ITEMS ON A TIMELINE THAT LEAD UP TO THE EXPLOSION IN THE OILFIELD 11:14:25 AND THE OIL LEAK. I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER SOME OF 11:14:28 THOSE ITEMS AND GET YOUR RESPONSES. 11:14:30 WE FOCUSED A LOT ON WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE EXPLOSION AND 11:14:33 I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE PERIOD LEADING UP TO IT. 11:14:36 I WOULD LIKE THE TIMELINE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD. 11:14:38 THE TIMELINE BEGINS WITH JANUARY 29, 2009, AND THE SECRETARY 11:14:43 BEING DECLARED AND THE SECRETARY IS APPOINTED ON THAT DATE AND 11:14:47 DECLARES HIMSELF THE NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN. 11:14:49 THIS IS JANUARY 2009. IN FEBRUARY 2009 IN A 11:14:54 SITE-SPECIFIC EXPLORATION PLAN FILED BY BP, IT STATES THAT IT 11:14:58 WAS, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, NOT REQUIRED TO FILE A SCENARIO FOR 11:15:02 A POTENTIAL BLOWOUT OF THE DEEPWATER WELL. 11:15:05 MARCH IN 2009 AS WE HAVE A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN, A 11:15:09 WHISTLE-BLOWER BROUGHT FORTH AN ISSUE OF A SAFETY BREACH BY BP 11:15:12 IN THE GULF OF MEXICO TO THE ATTENTION OF MMS. 11:15:15 QUOTE, THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHO WAS HIRED TO OVERSEE THE 11:15:18 COMPANY'S DATABASES THAT HOUSE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO ITS 11:15:22 ATLANTIS PROJECT DISCOVERED THE DRILLING PLATFORM HAD BEEN 11:15:25 OPERATED WITHOUT THE MAJORITY OF THE ENGINEER-APPROVED DOCUMENTS 11:15:28 THAT NEEDED TO RUN SAFELY. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THE 11:15:31 AGENCY, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS TWO MONTHS AFTER THE 11:15:34 WHISTLE-BLOWER CAME FORWARD IN MAY 2009, MMS FAILS TO PERFORM A 11:15:41 STANDARD MONTHLY INSPECTION OF THE DEEPWATER HORIZON. 11:15:45 WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE IN MAY 2009, OUR INTERIOR 11:15:49 SECRETARY IS SPEAKING AT THE WIND ENERGY CONFERENCE IN 11:15:53 CHICAGO. JUNE 2009 MMS PROPOSES NEW RULES 11:15:56 TO REQUIRE OIL AND GAS OPERATORS TO REQUIRE AND IMPLEMENT SAFETY 11:16:00 AND ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS FOR OFFSHORE DRILLING. 11:16:03 THE RULE IS STILL NOT FINALIZED ONE MONTH AND ONE YEAR LATER. 11:16:06 IN JUNE OF THAT SAME MONTH THESE RULES WERE PROVIDED, BUT NOT 11:16:12 FINALIZED. SECRETARY SALAZAR HIRES SILVIA 11:16:15 BACA AWAY FROM BP AMERICA TO BECOME HIS DEPUTY ASSISTANT 11:16:18 SECRETARY OF LAND AND MATERIALS MANAGEMENT ACCORDING TO THIS 11:16:22 TIMELINE. SUMMER 2009, THE MMS AWARDS 11:16:26 TRANSOCEAN'S U.S. GULF OF MEXICO OPERATION A SAFETY AWARD FOR 11:16:31 EXCELLENCE AND OUR SECRETARY DIRECTED MMS TO BEGIN FOCUSING 11:16:34 ON PROMOTING WIND ENERGY. ELIZABETH BIRNBAUM ASSUMES 11:16:38 DUTIES AS DIRECTOR OF MMS. THE NEW YORK TIMES RECORDED THAT 11:16:42 QUOTE NR PARTICULARLY AND TASKED WITH HANDLING THE ISSUE OF THE 11:16:47 25-MILE CAPE WIND FARM OFF OF CAPE COD. 11:16:50 WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT MONTH AUGUST 2009, MMS FAILS TO 11:16:54 PERFORM A STANDARD MONTHLY EXPANSION OF DEEPWATER HORIZON. 11:16:59 AUGUST OF THAT SAME MONTH, WHITE HOUSE -- AT THE WHITE HOUSE'S 11:17:03 REQUEST, SECRETARY SALAZAR TAKES A BREAK FROM HER WIND ENERGY 11:17:06 EFFORTS TO BEGIN THE BIG EFFORT OF SELLING HEALTH CARE REFORM. 11:17:10 AUGUST 2009, YOU TRAVELED THROUGHOUT THE WEST TO TOUT 11:17:14 OBAMA'S STIMULUS PLAN. I UNDERSTAND FROM THIS TIMELINE 11:17:16 THAT ON THE 21st OF AUGUST THAT YOU WERE IN GRAND CANYON SOUTH 11:17:20 RIM ON THE HIGHLIGHTING 10.8 MILLION STIMULUS DOLLARS. 11:17:27 8/20, YOU WERE IN UTAH. $3.6 MILLION STIMULUS DOLLARS 11:17:32 AND ON THE 20th YOU WERE IN OREGON ON STIMULUS DOLLARS. 11:17:35 THE VERY NEXT MONTH THE NATIONAL OCEANIC ATMOSPHERIC 11:17:40 ADMINISTRATION SENT MMS A LETTER ABOUT THE OFFSHORE DRILLING 11:17:43 PROPOSAL SAYING MMS UNDERSTATED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE NEW 11:17:47 DRILLING PROPOSAL. SEPTEMBER 8th OF THAT MONTH, 11:17:52 SALAZAR SAYS DURING AN INTERVIEW AT REUTERS SAYS ROOT NOW WE ARE 11:17:58 FOCUSED ON HEALTH CARE REFORM. IN FACT, KRSHS REPORTS IN 11:18:01 NOVEMBER 2009 THAT ANTICIPATING A STRUGGLE THE WHITE HOUSE 11:18:05 DEPUTIZED KEN SALAZAR AND FORMER SENATE MAJORITY LEADER TOM 11:18:09 DASCHLE TO JOIN VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IN TRYING TO CLEAR THE 11:18:12 WAY FOR HEALTHCARE BILLS OVERHAUL OF THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, 11:18:16 BUT MMS IS IS BUSY. MMS HAS A RENEWABLE ENERGY TASK 11:18:21 FORCE MEETING IN RHODE ISLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, AND NEW JERSEY 11:18:24 AND WITH ALL OF THIS ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN NOVEMBER, WHAT 11:18:27 HAPPENS IN THE GULF IN DECEMBER? DECEMBER 2009, MMS FAILS TO 11:18:34 PERFORM THE STANDARD MONTHLY INSPECTION OF DEEPWATER HORIZON? 11:18:39 THEY AGAIN FAILED TO PERFORM THE INSPECTION IN JANUARY AND THEN 11:18:43 THROUGH A SERIES OF NOTIFICATIONS THAT BP PROVIDES 11:18:47 TO THE AGENCY, THE SPECIFICATIONS FROM DEEPWATER 11:18:51 ARE CONTINUED TO BE ADJUSTED. MMS RESPONDING IN SEVEN MINUTES 11:18:54 TO ONE REQUEST FOR MODIFICATION, 4.5 MINUTES TO ANOTHER AFTER 11:18:59 HAVING ROUTINELY NOT SHOWN UP FOR STANDARD INSPECTIONS AND IN 11:19:03 APRIL, THE DEEPWATER HORIZON RIG EXPLODES AND THEN SINKS, AND I 11:19:10 BELIEVE THE SECRETARY IS THERE BY APRIL 30th AFTER ATTENDING ON 11:19:16 APRIL 27th, PARTICIPATING IN A CEREMONY ON WIND TURBINES. 11:19:22 APRIL 28th, ANNOUNCING THE APPROVAL OF THE CAPE WIND 11:19:27 PROJECT AND THEN YOUR ATTENDING IN THE GULF TO TAKE A LOOK AT 11:19:30 WHAT HAS OCCURRED. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME. 11:19:33 A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT INACTIVITY. 11:19:35 THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 11:19:39 I BELIEVE MY STAFF HAS A COPY OF THE TIMELINE WHICH I CAN ALSO 11:19:42 PROVIDE TO YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN RESPOND EVEN 11:19:45 THOUGH THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 11:19:50 THE FACT IS THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR HAS A 11:19:53 MAJOR MISSION TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE NATURAL RESOURCES 11:19:57 OF AMERICA BOTH ONSHORE AS WELL AS OFFSHORE AS WELL AS BEING THE 11:20:02 CUSTODIAN OF AMERICA'S MISSION AND ON THAT MISSION WE WORK ON 11:20:05 THE SET OF ISSUES RELATING TO NATIVE AMERICANS AND ALTHOUGH 11:20:08 THE OTHER ASSIGNMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF 11:20:12 THE INTERIOR. SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO 11:20:15 MANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CITE IN THERE, I HAVE SPENT PROBABLY 11:20:20 MORE TIME ON THE COMPREHENSIVE ENERGY PROGRAM FOR THE NATION 11:20:23 THAT THE PRESIDENT AND I HAVE BEEN CHAMPIONING THAN ON ALMOST 11:20:28 ANY OTHER ISSUE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE 11:20:31 ENERGY PLAN, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL SEE AND FOLD FOR 11:20:35 THIS NATION THAT WE WILL HAVE A BROAD ENERGY PORTFOLIO THAT WILL 11:20:38 INCLUDE OIL AND GAS AND AT THE SAME TIME INCLUDE THE NEW ENERGY 11:20:44 FRONTIER OF SOLAR, WIND AND GEOTHERMAL THAT WE HAVE WORKED 11:20:48 ON VERY HARD. I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU, MR. 11:20:51 TURNER, THAT WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION, WE HAVE SPENT A 11:20:54 HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME WITH RESPECT TO ALL OF THE ISSUES RELATING TO 11:20:59 MMS AND THEY HAVE INCLUDED CHANGING THE ETHICS CULTURE 11:21:03 MOVING FORWARD WITH A NEW DIRECTION ON THE SHELF FROM WHAT 11:21:07 WAS LEFT OVER FROM THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION AND MOVING 11:21:10 FORWARD TO STANDING UP, A RENEWABLE ENERGY PROGRAM. 11:21:14 SO WE WORK HARD. WE COVER A LOT OF GROUND AND WE 11:21:18 HAVE A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER IN THE FUTURE. 11:21:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED, 11:21:24 AND I NOW YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, 11:21:30 MISS CHU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 11:21:35 WE KNOW THAT THE BLOWOUT PREVENTERS FAILED WITH BP WITH 11:21:39 ENORMOUSLY TRAGIC CONSEQUENCES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AN 11:21:42 INSPECTOR DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO WITNESS IN PERSON THE BLOWOUT 11:21:46 PREVENTER TEST, BUT CAN SIMPLY REVIEW PAPERWORK FROM THE OIL 11:21:50 COMPANY OPERATORS AND THEY CAN BASICALLY TAKE THEIR WORD FOR 11:21:54 IT. WE KNOW THAT THESE TESTS CAN BE 11:21:57 SUCCESSFULLY FAKED AS ILLUSTRATED BY SEVERAL CASES. 11:22:02 THIS PRACTICE IS JUST UNIMAGINABLE AND CUTS CORNERS 11:22:06 AND COMPROMISES THE OVERSIGHT OF THE VALIDITY OF THE TEST. 11:22:10 SO HOW -- HOW WAS THE REORGANIZATION OF MMS WORK TO 11:22:14 IMPROVE THESE INSPECTION PRACTICES AND WHAT SPECIFIC 11:22:17 IMPROVEMENTS DO YOU ANTICIPATE MAKING TO MAKE THE BOP TEST 11:22:23 EFFECTIVE AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HAVING THESE 11:22:27 TYPES OF TESTS CERTIFIED BY INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY 11:22:31 INSPECTORS SELECTED BY FEDERAL REGULATORS AND NOT THE OIL 11:22:34 COMPANIES? CONGRESSWOMAN CHU, IT IS A 11:22:37 VERY GOOD QUESTION AND SOMETHING WHICH WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON 11:22:40 THAT RELATES TO TWO PARTS, THE REFORMS WITHIN THE OCS AND THE 11:22:44 FIRST OF THOSE IS HAVING THE RIGHT STANDARDS IN PLACE AND 11:22:48 MANY OF THOSE STANDARDS WERE SET FORTH IN THE 30-DAY REPORT WHICH 11:22:53 PRESIDENT OBAMA DIRECTED THEY DELIVER TO HIM. 11:22:55 MANY OF THOSE STANDARDS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED WITH RESPECT 11:22:58 TO THE NOTICE THAT DIRECTOR BROMWICH SPOKE ABOUT A LITTLE 11:23:01 BIT EARLIER AND THEN FINALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE ENFORCEMENT 11:23:05 OF THOSE STANDARDS THERE NEEDS TO BE A SIGNIFICANTLY BEEFED UP 11:23:11 EFFORT WITH RESPECT TO THE AGENCY'S INSPECTION CAPABILITIES 11:23:15 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS A FOOL'S ERRAND TO THINK THAT 60 11:23:20 INSPECTORS CAN ESSENTIALLY COME OUT AND INSPECT ALL OF THE 11:23:25 DIFFERENT OCS FACILITIES INCLUDING PRODUCTION FACILITIES 11:23:29 THAT ARE OUT THERE. SO YOU WILL BE COMING 11:23:31 FORTHWITH NEW REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO THIS PARTICULAR 11:23:34 PRACTICE? YES. 11:23:37 WELL, THEN IT LEADS TO ANOTHER QUESTION WHICH IS ABOUT 11:23:42 NEW REGULATIONS AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE CURRENT 11:23:47 REGULATORY SYSTEM IS THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR ANY 11:23:50 IMPROVEMENTS AND IN FACT, IT TOOK NINE YEARS FOR REGULATIONS 11:23:54 RELATED TO PIPELINE SAFETY TOE WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS 11:23:56 AND TAKE EFFECT. SO HOW WILL THE REORGANIZATION 11:24:01 OF MMS WORK TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE OF DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION 11:24:05 OF NEW AND NECESSARY REGULATIONS? 11:24:10 THE REORGANIZATION ITSELF, THERE WILL BE TWO PARTS ESSENTIALLY 11:24:15 DEALING WITH THE SHELF BEYOND THE REVENUE SITE AND ONE OF THEM 11:24:20 WILL BE TO PROVIDE THE SAFETY AND ENFORCEMENT AND WE WILL MAKE 11:24:24 SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE ISSUES AND 11:24:28 ALL OF THE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM THIS TRAGEDY. 11:24:32 BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE AND WHAT WILL YOU 11:24:35 DO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCELERATED? 11:24:39 CONGRESSWOMAN CHU, I THINK SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY THAT WE 11:24:42 SHOULD HAVE WAITED FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS UNTIL 11:24:46 WE FOUND OUT EXACTLY ALL OF THE RESULTS OF ALL OF THE 11:24:49 INVESTIGATIONS. OUR VIEW FROM DAY ONE HAS BEEN 11:24:53 THAT WE WOULD WORK ON THE ISSUE AS FAST AS WE CAN AND SO THE 11:24:59 30-DAY REPORT THAT WAS DELIVERED TO THE PRESIDENT IS THE REPORT 11:25:02 THAT HAS MANY RULES AND REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS WHICH 11:25:05 ARE ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED AND SOME OF THEM NOTICE THE LESS 11:25:09 SEES AND SOME OF THEM THROUGH RULE MAKING THAT WILL BE 11:25:14 CONDUCTED BY DIRECTOR BROMWICH. FINALLY, LET ME ASK THIS. 11:25:18 UNDER THE TWO INTERIOR DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS, OIL 11:25:22 COMPANIES USE MODELS DEVELOPED BY MMS TO PREDICT THE OIL 11:25:26 REACHING THE SHORE FOLLOWING A SPILL. 11:25:28 IN THE DEEPWATER HORIZON CASE, THESE MODELS INCORRECTLY 11:25:31 PREDICTED THAT THERE WAS A 0% LIKELIHOOD OF OIL REACHING BOTH 11:25:37 SHORES IN FLORIDA, ALABAMA AND LOUISIANA. 11:25:42 IT SUGGESTS, OF COURSE, THAT THESE MODELS ARE OUTDATED AND 11:25:45 THAT THE REGULATIONS RELATING TO THE OIL RESPONSE PLANS NEED TO 11:25:50 BE REVISITED. SO MY QUESTION IS DOES MMS NEED 11:25:53 TO RE-EXAMINE ALL OF THESE OIL SPILL RESPONSE PLANS 11:25:57 PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THESE KINDS OF PREDICTIONS WHICH 11:26:01 ARE CLEARLY INCORRECT AND WAY OFF AND HOW WILL THE MMS 11:26:06 REORGANIZATION HELP THIS PROCESS? 11:26:08 THE ANSWER IS YES ON DRILLING SAFETY AND CONTAINMENT MEASURES 11:26:12 AND OIL SPILL RESPONSIBILITIES AND I WOULD LIKE DIRECTOR 11:26:15 BROMWICH TO COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL. 11:26:18 YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT, CONGRESSWOMAN, THAT THE OIL 11:26:22 SPILL RESPONSE PLANS ARE PLAINLY INADEQUATE AND THAT IS ONE 11:26:25 SUBJECT ON WHICH I WILL BE GATHERING INFORMATION ON THE 11:26:28 PUBLIC FORUMS THAT WE WILL BE HOLDING OVER THE NEXT MONTH AND 11:26:32 A HALF WITH AN EYE TOWARD NOT ONLY INSISTING ON THE SHORT TERM 11:26:35 FOR REGULATIONS THAT THOSE OIL SPILL RESPONSE PLANS BE 11:26:39 SUBSTANTIALLY REVISED IF THEY'RE GOING TO PASS MUSTER, BUT ALSO 11:26:42 WITH AN EYE TOWARD GETTING OUT NEW REGULATIONS IN THE FUTURE 11:26:46 AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE STANDARD FROM NOW ON. 11:26:49 AND YOU'RE REVIEWING ALL OF THE PLANS? 11:26:52 YES. GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME HAS 11:26:56 EXPIRED, AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE AND LET 11:27:00 ME ALSO WISH HIM HAPPY BIRTHDAY. WELL, I HAVE THE HONOR OF 11:27:04 SHARING A BIRTHDAY YESTERDAY WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND HE SENT ME 11:27:08 A NOTE SAYING THAT HE THINKS WE SHOULD MAKE IT A NATIONAL 11:27:12 HOLIDAY. THAT WAS A VERY NICE NOTE. 11:27:19 MR. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE. 11:27:22 I'VE SAT THROUGH HEARINGS IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND THE 11:27:25 RESOURCES COMMITTEE ON THE BP OIL SPILL AND IN BOTH OF THOSE 11:27:29 HEARINGS THE WITNESSES HAVE MENTIONED THAT OVER 40,000 WELLS 11:27:33 HAVE BEEN DRILLED IN THE GULF SINCE 1960 AND MY STAFF GOT 11:27:42 INFORMATION FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT EARLIER TODAY SAYING SINCE 1947 11:27:46 MORE THAN 50,000 WELLS HAVE BEEN DRILLED IN THE GULF OF MEXICO 11:27:50 AND IT'S -- WOULD YOU NOT AGREE IT'S AN -- IT'S ALMOST AN 11:27:57 ASTONISHINGLY SAFE, CLEAN HISTORY THAT WE HAVE THERE IN 11:27:59 THE GULF? I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN ALMOST 11:28:02 NO -- THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING EVEN CLOSE TO THIS BP SPILL. 11:28:07 IN FACT, I'M TOLD THERE ARE MORE SPILLS OUT OF SHIPS THAN THERE 11:28:11 ARE FROM THESE RIGS. CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN, I AGREE 11:28:15 WITH YOU. IN FACT, I THINK IT WAS THAT 11:28:18 HISTORY OF SAFETY OVER ALL OF THOSE TIMES, 50,000 WELLS WHICH 11:28:23 ESSENTIALLY WAS THE IMPERICAL FOUNDATION UPON WHICH THE 11:28:27 NATIONAL FRAMEWORK HAS BEEN BUILT WITH RESPECT TO THE OIL 11:28:31 AND GAS PRODUCTION IN THE OUTER CONTINENTAL SHELF. 11:28:35 I AM TOLD THERE ARE NOW 3600 STRUCTURES IN THE GULF RIGHT 11:28:41 NOW. GOVERNOR ENGLER WROTE A COLUMN 11:28:45 FOR "THE WASHINGTON TIMES" A FEW WEEKS AGO AND SAYS DRILLING 11:28:50 MORATORIUM IS A JOBS MORATORIUM. HE SAID THE MORATORIUM 11:28:54 IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN 33 DEEPWATER RIGS IN THE GULF 11:28:58 INCLUDING 22 NEAR LOUISIANA. THIS ACTION COULD COST 3,000 TO 11:29:04 6,000 LOUISIANA JOBS IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS AND 11:29:07 POTENTIALLY 20,000 BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR. 11:29:10 FOR EVERY ONE EMPLOYEE ON AN OIL RIG, THERE ARE NINE EMPLOYEES 11:29:14 ONSHORE SUPPORTING THAT ONE EMPLOYEE. 11:29:17 THAT'S -- THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID I READ THIS 11:29:23 BY GOVERNOR ENGLER, BUT REPEATEDLY, I'VE SEEN ON THE 11:29:27 NEWS REPORTS THAT THESE OIL WORKERS IN THE GULF AREA ARE 11:29:31 ALMOST IN A PANIC SITUATION ABOUT ALL OF THE THOUSANDS OF 11:29:37 JOBS THAT ARE BEING DESTROYED AND ARE TO BE DESTROYED. 11:29:42 CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN, LET ME JUST SAY THAT WE, TOO, ARE 11:29:46 CONCERNED AND WE ARE AWARE OF THE ISSUES OF OUR VIEW AND MY 11:29:50 VIEW IN ISSUING THE MORATORIUM THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO 11:29:53 MOVE FORWARD TO PUT THE PAUSE BUTTON IN PLACE UNTIL WE CAN 11:29:57 ANSWER THREE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS. 11:29:59 DRILLING SAFETY AND BLOWOUT CONTAINMENT CAPABILITY AS WELL 11:30:03 AS OIL SPILL RESPONSE CAPABILITY. 11:30:06 IF WE WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO TODAY OR 11:30:10 NEXT WEEK, WE COULD NOT HAVE THE OIL SPILL RESPONSE CAPABILITY TO 11:30:14 DEAL WITH THOSE BLOWOUTS. THE EFFORT WHICH EXXON, SHELL 11:30:17 AND CHEVRON AND CONOCO PHILLIPS CAME UP WITH YESTERDAY IS THE 11:30:23 BEGINNING POINT OF THAT CONVERSATION RELATIVE TO HOW WE 11:30:25 ADDRESS ONE OF THOSE THREE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES AND DIRECTOR 11:30:30 BROMWICH'S SET OF MEETINGS WILL HELP US ANSWER THOSE THREE 11:30:32 FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS SO WE CAN DETERMINE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD 11:30:35 WITH RESPECT TO THE PAUSE BUTTON IN PLACE. 11:30:39 ON ANOTHER POINT, THE COLUMNIST AND COMMENTATOR WHOI 11:30:43 THINK ALMOST EVERYBODY AGREES EVEN IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH 11:30:46 HIM, THEY THINK HE'S ONE OF THE SMARTEST MEN IN THIS CITY. 11:30:50 HE WROTE RECENTLY, ENVIRONMENTAL CHIC HAS DRIVEN US OUT THERE. 11:30:55 HE ASKED WHY WE WERE DRILLING IN 5,000 FEET OF WATER IN THE FIRST 11:30:59 PLACE. EN INCHMENTAL CHIC HAS DRIVEN US 11:31:02 OUT THERE, THEY HAVE RENDERED THE PACIFIC AND NEARLY ALL OF 11:31:05 THE ATLANTIC COAST OFF LIMITS TO OIL PRODUCTION AND OF COURSE, IN 11:31:08 THE SAFEST OF ALL PLACES ON LAND, WE'VE HAD A 30-YEAR BAN IN 11:31:12 THE ARCTIC WILD LIFE REFUGE. I'VE SEEN ARTICLES THAT SAY 11:31:16 SOMETHING LIKE 83% OR 84% OF THE CONTINENTAL SHELF IS OFF LIMITS 11:31:21 TO OIL PRODUCTION AND THAT -- THAT ALSO IS A CONCERN OF MINE 11:31:27 AND THEN FINALLY, BEFORE MY TIME RUNS OUT I'LL SAY TO MR. 11:31:34 BROMWICH, I'M CONCERNED WE'VE CHANGED THE NAME AND THERE SEEMS 11:31:38 TO BE A GOAL OF EMPHASIZING ENFORCEMENT, AND I'M JUST 11:31:43 WONDERING, ARE WE GOING HAVE A GOTCHA-TYPE AGENCY NOW? 11:31:48 BECAUSE MOST OF THESE COMPANIES, LET'S FORGET ABOUT BP. 11:31:52 LET'S CONSIDER THEM A BAD ACTOR, BUT MOST OF THESE COMPANIES ARE 11:31:56 DOING A GOOD JOB AND COMPLYING WITH ALL THE LAWS. 11:31:59 I AGREE WITH YOU. WE'RE NOT GOING HAVE A GOTCHA 11:32:03 CULTURE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CLEAR RULES AND WE'RE GOING TO 11:32:06 HAVE AGGRESSIVE INSPECTIONS AND VIOLATIONS OF THOSE CLEAR RULES 11:32:10 WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT KIND OF 11:32:14 REGULATORY REGIME TO HAVE. IF YOU FIND A VIOLATION ARE 11:32:17 YOU GOING TO GIVE THE COMPANY A CHANCE TO CORRECT IT OR ARE YOU 11:32:20 IMMEDIATELY GOING TO COME DOWN ON THEM AND SHUT THEM DOWN? 11:32:23 THAT'S A FACT-SPECIFIC DETERMINATION AND WE'LL HAVE TO 11:32:26 TAKE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS 11:32:31 EXPIRED. I RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM 11:32:33 MARYLAND, CONGRESSMAN CUMMINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. 11:32:37 CHAIRMAN. SECRETARY SALAZAR. 11:32:38 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE -- THAT WE HAD WITH THE COAST GUARD 11:32:44 SUB COMMITET AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND ONE OF THE THINGS 11:32:48 THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE -- WHAT ROLE DO YOU ALL SEE 11:32:52 THE COAST GUARD PLAYING IN THE FUTURE? 11:32:56 YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATION PASSED BY THE COMMITTEE ON 11:33:00 TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE WILL REQUIRE MUCH MORE 11:33:03 SIGNIFICANT ROLE FOR THE COAST GUARD AND THE APPROVAL OF THE 11:33:06 OIL SPILL RESPONSE PLANS WHICH IS CRUCIAL GIVEN THAT THE COAST 11:33:09 GUARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE RESPONSE TO THE 11:33:14 SPILLS. SO WHAT STEPS, IF ANY, MMS AND 11:33:20 THE COAST GUARD TAKING NOW TO STRENGTHEN THE ROLE OF THE COAST 11:33:23 GUARD AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THEIR COMPLAINTS 11:33:26 THAT THEY'RE ASKED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE 11:33:30 CLEANUP, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SAY IN CREATING THE PLAN. 11:33:36 DID YOU KNOW THAT? THEY'VE ACTUALLY TESTIFIED TO 11:33:41 THAT. EITHER ONE OF YOU. 11:33:43 CONGRESSMAN CUMMINGS, IF I MAY, THE ROLE THAT WE HAVE SEEN 11:33:48 PLAY OUT WITH RESPECT TO THE RESPONSE WITH THE DEEPWATER 11:33:52 HORIZON BLOWOUT AND THE BP OIL SPILL HAS BEEN ONE THAT WE HAVE 11:33:56 BEEN WORKING WITH HAND IN HAND WITH ADMIRAL ALLEN AS THE 11:33:59 NATIONAL INCIDENT COMMANDER AND IT'S BEEN CONTINUOUS. 11:34:03 WE WILL LOOK BACK AT THE DEEPWATER HORIZON TRAGEDY AND 11:34:06 LOOK AT THE LESSONS LEARNED INCLUDING THE CAPACITY THAT ARE 11:34:11 OUT THERE WITH RESPECT TO THE COAST GUARD AND OTHERS, BUT THE 11:34:14 FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE RELATIONSHIP IN TERMS OF THE 11:34:20 STRUCTURE HAS BEEN SET UP TO RESPOND TO THE OIL SPILL 11:34:23 RESPONSE HAS WORKED WELL BETWEEN INTERIOR AND THE COAST GUARD AND 11:34:27 OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE ALSO INVOLVED. 11:34:31 I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU AGAIN, WE'VE HAD TESTIMONY WITHIN THE 11:34:36 LAST THREE WEEKS AND I WILL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION WHERE THEY 11:34:42 HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY WANT -- AND THIS IS NOT ADMIRAL ALLEN. 11:34:48 THEY WANT MORE SAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RESPONSE, THE 11:34:54 EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN BECAUSE THEY JUST FEEL LIKE, BY THE 11:34:58 TIME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CALL ON THEM TO OVERSEE THE CLEANUP, 11:35:02 THEY SHOULD BE MORE INVOLVED THAN IN THE BEGINNING. 11:35:05 I'LL GET THAT TO YOU. YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT 11:35:09 THAT. I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T KNOW 11:35:11 THAT. LET ME SAY THIS, CONGRESSMAN 11:35:14 CUMMINGS. THE FACT THAT THE OIL SPILL 11:35:16 RESPONSE ISSUE IS IS ONE OF THE THREE MOST CENTRAL ISSUES THAT 11:35:19 WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THAT ISSUE WILL NECESSARILY INVOLVE -- 11:35:24 SHOULD INVOLVE AND WILL INVOLVE, I WILL MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS, A 11:35:28 CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE COAST GUARD BECAUSE WE'RE NOT 11:35:31 GOING TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE HAVE AN ASSUREDNESS WITH RESPECT 11:35:36 TO THE ADEQUACY OF OIL SPILL RESPONSE PLANS. 11:35:41 MR. SECRETARY, ALTHOUGH THE DEEP-WATER HORIZON WAS 11:35:45 REGISTERED IN THE REPUBLIC OF THE MARSHALL ISLANDS, HAS 11:35:55 TESTIFIED BEFORE THE JOINT MMS COAST GUARD PANEL SAYING THAT 11:35:59 THE RMI AS A FLAG STATE DID NOT INSPECT THE DRILLING EQUIPMENT & 11:36:04 ON THE DEEP WATER. HE INDICATED THAT SUCH 11:36:07 INSPECTION ARE LEFT UP TO THE MMS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT MMS 11:36:11 OFTEN RELIES ON KEY TESTS AND THAT MMS INSPECTORS ONLY REVIEW 11:36:17 THE PAPERWORK ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEXT. 11:36:20 HOW IS IT THAT ADEQUATE -- HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE 11:36:27 ADEQUATE -- THAT IS, APPROVAL OF THESE -- OF THESE REPORTS? 11:36:33 BECAUSE THERE'S A QUESTION OF INSPECTION THAT SOME OF THE 11:36:37 INSPECTIONS ARE NOT ACTUALLY DONE BY OUR PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE 11:36:41 DONE BY THE MARSHALL ALLEN FOLK AND PEOPLE THEY CONTRACT SO HOW 11:36:47 CAN WE GUARANTEE THAT THOSE INSPECTIONS WHICH ARE SO 11:36:50 IMPORTANT ARE PROPERLY DONE? LET ME SAY FIRST THERE WERE 11:36:54 INSPECS CONDUCTED OF THE DEEPWATER HORIZON INCLUDING 11:36:57 INSPECTIONS IN APRIL AND TESTING INCLUDING OF THE BLOWOUT 11:37:00 PREVENTER THAT OCCURRED IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE 11:37:03 EXPLOSION. SECONDLY, WE WILL HAVE A 11:37:08 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE ROBUST INSPECTION REGIME AND IT'S PART 11:37:11 OF WHAT DIRECTOR BROMWICH WILL BE WORKING ON AND HE MAY WANT TO 11:37:16 COMMENT ON THAT. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 11:37:18 THOSE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON MOST 11:37:21 INTENTLY. THE IMPORTANT INSPEINSPECTIONS 11:37:26 TO BE DONE BY HUMAN BEINGS AND HUMAN BEINGS WITH EXPERIENCE AND 11:37:30 DEMONSTRATED COMPETENCE AND AN ARM'S LENGTH RELATIONSHIP AT 11:37:33 LEAST TO THE ENTITIES THAT OWN THE FACILITIES. 11:37:36 I SEE MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 11:37:40 THE SECRETARY HAS GOT LEAVE AT 12, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO 11:37:43 GET IN AS MANY MEMBERS AS WE CAN BEFORE THEY HAVE TO LEAVE BEFORE 11:37:48 THEY GO TO VOTE. MR. BURTON, FIVE MINUTES. 11:37:51 YOU KNOW, 50,000 WELLS HAVE BEEN DRILLED IN THE GULF WITHOUT 11:37:59 A PROBLEM, AND YET THE PRESIDENT PUT A MORATORIUM ON THE 11:38:04 DRILLING, AND AS A RESULT YOU'VE HAD SOME OF THE RIGS GO TO 11:38:10 EGYPT, TO THE CONGO. IN CANADA THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 11:38:20 NEW WELLS DIGGING UP TO 6,000 FEET AND WE'LL LOSE THE WELLS 11:38:26 AND THEY'LL PROBABLY NOT COME BACK FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. 11:38:29 IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO CUT OFF THE DRILLING IN THE GULF 11:38:34 WHEN YOU'VE NOT HAD ANY REAL PROBLEMS EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE 11:38:39 CATASTROPHE, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE 11:38:42 ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN THIS CARTE BLANCHE APPROACH. 11:38:45 CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? CONGRESSMAN BURTON, HAVING 11:38:51 BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER IN RESPONSE TO THE DEEPWATER 11:38:55 HORIZON BLOWOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE THE BLOWOUT, I CAN TELL 11:38:58 YOU THAT THERE ARE THREE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS THAT HAVE 11:39:01 TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE TAKE OUR HAND OFF THE PAUSE BUTTON 11:39:05 AND THOSE ARE THE ISSUES OF DRILLING SAFETY AND OIL WELL 11:39:11 BLOWOUT CONTAINMENT AS WELL AS OIL SPILL RESPONSE CAPACITIES 11:39:15 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON WITH DIRECTOR BROMWICH AS WELL 11:39:21 WITH A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER EFFORTS. 11:39:23 YOU'VE ALREADY STATED THAT THERE'S MORE OF A CHANCE FROM A 11:39:26 LEAK OF A TANKER THAN THERE IS FROM ONE OF THESE RIGS. 11:39:30 IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WITH A 50,000 DRILLING OF WELLS 11:39:34 IN THE GULF AND YOU HAVE ONE SPILL THAT YOU WILL CUT OFF 11:39:37 EVERYTHING AND THE RIGS ARE ALREADY MOVING TO BRAZZAVILLE 11:39:42 AND THE CONGO AND WE SENT THEM TO DRILL IN DEEPWATER AREAS. 11:39:48 SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, IN EFFECT, IS SHOVING OIL PRODUCTION AWAY 11:39:52 FROM THE UNITED STATES AND WE'RE COSTING US JOBS WHEN THERE IS 11:39:56 REALLY NO REASON FOR IT EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE EXCEPTION AND WHAT 11:40:00 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IN MY OPINION, IT DOESN'T MAKE A GREAT 11:40:04 DEAL OF SENSE. I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF 11:40:06 OTHER QUESTIONS REALLY QUICK. I HAVE A VIDEO I WOULD LIKE TO 11:40:10 SHOW YOU REALLY QUICK. IT'S ABOUT 15 SECONDS LONG. 11:40:14 SO CAN YOU CUE UP THAT VIDEO? SALAZAR AND NAPOLITANO HAVE 11:40:22 BEEN ON THE ISLANDS THREE TIMES. IT'S A PHOTO-OP? 11:40:26 I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU HAVE CONTACT ON THE 11:40:28 STOCK LEVEL? EVERY TIME NAPOLITANO AND 11:40:38 SALAZAR HAS COME ON TO GRAND ISLE THEY GO ON A BOAT OR 11:40:41 HELICOPTER AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 11:40:43 THEY'VE NEVER MET WITH LOCAL HOMELAND SECURITY. 11:40:46 I DON'T THINK THEY'VE MET WITH ANYONE IN TOWN. 11:40:48 SHE DROVE PAST ME LAST TIME AND I WAS STANDING AT THE AIRPORT 11:40:51 WAITING FOR YOU TO COME IN AND SHE DROVE RIGHT PAST ME. 11:40:53 WELL, THIS IS DINO BONANO WHO IS THE HOMELAND SECURITY 11:41:00 DIRECTOR DOWN THERE AND THE FIRE CHIEF MARK SCARDINO. 11:41:05 THEY SAID YOU'VE NEVER BEEN DOWN TO THAT PARISH AND THAT'S ONE OF 11:41:08 THE MOST TOXIC AREAS THAT'S BEEN HIT SINCE THE SPILL TOOK PLACE. 11:41:13 WHY HAVEN'T YOU BEEN DOWN THERE? CONGRESSMAN BURTON, FIRST OF 11:41:17 ALL, WE BELIEVE THAT THE LAST COUNT THAT I SAW HAD 11 TIMES 11:41:23 THAT WE HAD BEEN IN THE GULF COAST STATES -- 11:41:25 THIS IS ONE OF THE HARDEST HIT. 11:41:28 I HAVE BEEN THROUGH LOUISIANA, ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI, 11:41:32 FLORIDA. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PARISH BY 11:41:35 PARISH, BUT LET ME JUST SAY SINCE APRIL 20th AND EVEN BEFORE 11:41:41 THAT, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE GULF COAST AND I CONTINUE TO 11:41:44 SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOWN THERE AND WILL AND WILL WORK 11:41:48 RELENTLESSLY ON THIS PROBLEM UNTIL WE GET IT FIXED AND WE 11:41:51 CHARGE THE WAY FORWARD -- IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE 11:41:55 BEEN ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU 11:41:58 WEREN'T THERE AND THEY WERE COMPLAINING VERY VIGOROUSLY THAT 11:42:01 YOU HAD IGNORED THEIR PROBLEMS THERE. 11:42:03 THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE 11:42:05 CABINET HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE COUNTLESS TIMES. 11:42:08 MY ASSISTANT SECRETARY -- MY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR FISH AND 11:42:11 WILD LIFE HAS TAKEN 17 TRIPS DOWN INTO THAT AREA TO DEAL WITH 11:42:15 THESE ISSUES. YOU'RE THE GUY. 11:42:17 YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE, IN MY OPINION. 11:42:19 THE LAST THING I WANT TO ASK IS I KNOW THE JONES ACT WAS 11:42:24 REFERRED TO. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COUNTRIES 11:42:26 THAT WANTED TO BRING SKIMMERS IN AS SOON AS THIS THING TOOK 11:42:30 PLACE. WE COULD HAVE ELIMINATED AN 11:42:32 AWFUL LOT OF THESE ECOLOGICAL PROBLEMS IF THOSE SKIMMERS HAD 11:42:35 BEEN BROUGHT IN. WHY IN THE WORLD DID WE LET THE 11:42:39 OTHER COUNTRIES BRING IN THE SKIMMERS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. 11:42:43 I DISAGREE WITH YOU. THE JONES ACT HAS NOT KEPT A 11:42:46 SINGLE VESSEL FROM COMING INTO THE COUNTRY, NUMBER ONE. 11:42:49 WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF SKIMMING VESSELS HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE 11:42:52 AND THE JONES ACT WAS WANT AN ISSUE. 11:42:54 WHY WEREN'T THEY ALLOWED IN. THAD ALLEN AND THE NATIONAL 11:43:01 INCIDENT COMMANDER HAD BEEN IN CHARGE. 11:43:03 THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 11:43:08 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY INTENT WASN'T TO REBUT MY 11:43:12 REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES IN THE HEARING, BUT GIVEN WHAT WAS JUST 11:43:15 SAID ABOUT THE EXCEPTION OF THIS DISASTER, IT'S LIKE SUGGESTING 11:43:20 THAT 9/11 WAS AN EXCEPTION TO AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL REGULATIONS 11:43:23 AND THAT WE SHOULDN'T REACT TO THAT. 11:43:25 THE FACT IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER AND 11:43:29 THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE REGULATION A PREEP ATLY OF 11:43:33 OIL WELLS IN THE GULF AND I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THAT 11:43:36 THE ADMINISTRATION TAKE THE STEPS THAT IT HAS TO MAKE SURE 11:43:39 THAT ALL OF THE WELLS ARE SAFE. I FURTHER HEARD MY REPUBLICAN 11:43:45 COLLEAGUING IS THAT ITS LUM TAGDZS ON ONSHORE DRILLING AND 11:43:48 OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT IS DRIVING BP AND OTHERS TO GO 11:43:52 TO THE GULF UPON I ASSUME THAT THEY'RE MAKING MONEY IN THE GULF 11:43:56 THAT THE REASON THEY HAVE THIS IN THE GULF IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE 11:43:59 OIL WELLS THERE AND THEY'RE MAKING MONEY, IS THAT CORRECT? 11:44:02 THAT'S CORRECT. THE REASON BP AND OTHER OIL 11:44:05 COMPANIES ARE, IN FACT, DRILLING IS BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING A 11:44:10 PROFIT IN THE GULF? THAT IS CORRECT. 11:44:13 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON AND I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS ONE 11:44:16 THAT'S IMPORTANT AND IT GOES BACK TO THE 2005 ENERGY ACT AND 11:44:19 THE ISSUE OF CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS. 11:44:22 I AM CONCERNED, AS ARE OTHERS WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF 11:44:26 CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS THAT WE HAVE SEEN FOR WELLS IN THE GULF, 11:44:29 AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND 11:44:33 HOW CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS ARE DETERMINED AND WHETHER OR NOT BP 11:44:39 ADVOCATED EXCLUSIVELY FOR CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS FOR THE 11:44:42 DRILLING OPERATIONS IN THE GULF. CONGRESSMAN, LET ME JUST SAY, 11:44:48 FIRST OF ALL THAT JUST BACK ON THE MORATORIUM, IT WAS A PRUDENT 11:44:52 POSITION THAT WE HAVE TAKEN AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT 11:44:55 YOU ECHO FOR THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL 11:44:59 ISSUES THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE ADDRESSED. 11:45:01 SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTION ON CATEGORICAL 11:45:05 EXCLUSIONS, THEY APPEAR AT A TIME WHEN AFTER SIGNIFICANT 11:45:09 ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE BECAUSE THE PROCESS IN 11:45:12 DEVELOPING A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, YOU DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT 11:45:16 STATEMENT BEFORE YOU ISSUE AND HAVE A LEASE SALE THERE'S 11:45:21 ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT REVIEWED BEFORE A SALE 11:45:26 HAPPENS. THE CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION IN THE 11:45:27 GULF OF MEXICO WHICH HAS BEEN GRANTED TO MORE THAN BP. 11:45:30 THOSE OCCUR IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THERE IS A 30-DAY WINDOW 11:45:34 OF APPROVAL REQUIRED BY STATUTE WHEN AN EXPLORATION PLAN ITSELF 11:45:40 IS FILED AS PART OF THE LEASING AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 11:45:43 SO WE'VE ASKED THE CONGRESS TO EXTEND THAT 30-DAY WINDOW TO THE 11:45:48 90-DAY WINDOW, AND I HOPE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ENACT 11:45:52 IN THE OIL SPILL LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU. 11:45:54 WHEN YOU SAY THE 30-DAY WINDOW IS IN STATUTE. 11:45:58 WHEN WAS THAT 30-DAY WINDOW IMPLEMENTED AND WHY WAS IT ONLY 11:46:01 30 DAYS AND WHO ADVOCATED FOR THE 30-DAY WINDOW? 11:46:05 I DO NOT HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON WHEN THAT REQUIREMENT WAS PUT 11:46:09 INTO THE LAW, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. 11:46:13 DO YOU BELIEVE -- WHAT IS YOUR OPINION AS TO HOW LONG IT 11:46:16 SHOULD BE FOR THE REVIEW? YOU SAID 90 DAYS. 11:46:19 IS 90 DAYS APPROPRIATE. 30 DAYS I BELIEVE IS TOO SHORT, 11:46:24 AND I DO THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO ESPECIALLY IN PLACES LIKE THE 11:46:28 GULF OF MEXICO, YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS ENVIRONMENTAL 11:46:31 INFORMATION AND REVIEWS THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED AND SO WE 11:46:34 JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS THAT ARE 11:46:38 BEING CONDUCTED ARE WORTHWHILE AND THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT 11:46:43 THING IN TERMS OF THE AIM OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS WHICH IS 11:46:47 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IMPACTS THEY'LL BE TO THE ENVIRONMENT 11:46:51 AND THE ACTIVITY. DO YOU BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN 11:46:53 AN OVERUSE OF CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS UNDER THE PREVIOUS 11:46:58 ADMINISTRATIONS AND IN THE 30-DAY WINDOW IS A PRIMARY CAUSE 11:47:01 OF THAT? I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS 11:47:04 AN OVERUSE OF THE CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS AND INDEED WITH 11:47:08 RESPECT TO WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE ONSHORE UNDER THE BUREAU OF 11:47:11 LAND MANAGEMENT IS THAT WE HAVE CHANGED THAT PRACTICE AND 11:47:14 OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW WITH THE 11:47:20 COUNCIL OF THE QUALITY RELATIVE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WILL 11:47:25 HAPPEN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I 11:47:29 YIELD BACK. MR. MURPHY? 11:47:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. 11:47:33 I KNOW WE'RE ABOUT TO GO TO VOTES AND SECRETARY SALAZAR, 11:47:37 YOU'VE BEEN GREAT TO SPEND TIME WITH US. 11:47:39 I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE TO MR. BURTON'S QUESTION. 11:47:43 WE COULD BE FOR DAYS ON END IF WE WOULD PLAY SINGLE INDIVIDUALS 11:47:46 THAT WERE UPSET THAT ONE PARTICULAR FEDERAL OFFICIAL 11:47:50 DIDN'T VISIT THEM. I THINK WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE 11:47:52 YOU IN THIS POSITION. SO MANY OF US HAVE BEEN 11:47:55 IMPRESSED BY YOUR IMMEDIATE AND ROBUST RESPONSE TO THIS TRAGEDY 11:48:00 AND MR. BROMWICH, YOU HAVE A REPUTATION AS A NO-NONSENSE 11:48:05 ADMINISTRATOR IN EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, AND I THINK YOU'RE 11:48:07 THE RIGHT GUY FOR THE JOB. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK 11:48:10 QUESTIONS. ONE RELEVANCE OF FUNDING SOURCE 11:48:13 IS MOVING FORWARD. THE REORGANIZATION AS YOU SPLIT 11:48:17 INTO THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES WILL REQUIRE MORE PEOPLE IN AND 11:48:20 OF ITSELF AND THREE DIRECTORS AND THREE OFFICERS OF 11:48:23 CONGRESSIONAL RELATIONS AND WE KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO 11:48:26 DO THE INSPECTION WORK. AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AT HOW 11:48:30 YOU THINK THE AGENCY SHOULD BE FUNDED AND YOU LOOK AT A 11:48:35 POTENTIAL DIMINISHING RELIANCE ON ROYALTY PAYMENTS. 11:48:39 HOW DO YOU EXPECT THAT MOVING FORWARD THE NEW FUNCTIONS OF 11:48:44 THESE AGENCIES ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED? 11:48:47 CONGRESSMAN MURPHY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 11:48:51 WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF WORKING WITH THE APPROPRIATORS IN 11:48:56 DEVELOPING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDING IS 11:49:00 THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB. AND THE FUNDING SOURCES 11:49:07 THEMSELVES THEY'LL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION TO ENGAGE WITH 11:49:10 CONGRESS ON. WITH RESPECT TO ROYALTY 11:49:13 PAYMENTS. DO YOU HAVE IDEAS AS TO WHAT 11:49:16 COMPONENTS WILL BE -- CONTINUE TO BE FUNDED BY ROYALTY PAYMENTS 11:49:20 OR WHAT COMPONENTS YOU NO LONGER WANT TO BE FUNDED WITH RESPECT 11:49:24 TO THOSE PAYMENTS. THAT IS PART OF THE REVIEW THAT 11:49:27 WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAMS THAT WE 11:49:30 ARE DEVELOPING. AND MAYBE I'LL DIRECT THIS 11:49:34 QUESTION TO MR. BROMWICH AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE 11:49:37 SECRETARY WEIGH IN AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN 11:49:40 OF GREAT FRUSTRATION TO US IS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING 11:49:44 RIGHT NOW TO DEAL WITH THIS, BILL. 11:49:46 AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD A FAIRLY SLOW PACE OF INNOVATION 11:49:50 WITHIN THE INDUSTRY IN DEVELOPING NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO 11:49:53 ADDRESS SPILLS. MAYBE IT'S MOVING A LOT FASTER 11:49:55 RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, BUT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IT'S BEEN 11:50:00 RELATIVELY SLOW GIVEN THE THREAT. 11:50:01 CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU FORESEE EITHER WITHIN 11:50:06 YOUR AGENCY OR -- OR IN PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE INDUSTRY. 11:50:11 HOW DO WE MORE QUICKLY DO WE MO OIL SPILL DISASTER TECHNOLOGY 11:50:18 GOING FORWARD? YES, IT IS A VERY GOOD 11:50:21 QUESTION. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 11:50:26 THIS DISASTER HAS FOECUSED PEOPLE'S ATTENTIONS ON IS OIL 11:50:33 SPILL RESPONSE TECHNOLOGIES. IT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY US AND 11:50:41 PLAYERS IN THE INDUSTRY. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE 11:50:44 REASONS WHY YESTERDAY WE SAW THE FOUR LARGEST MAJORS COME FORWARD 11:50:48 WITH THE OUTLINES OF A PLAN TO DEAL WITH OIL SPILL CONTAINMENT 11:50:54 IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. I THINK THAT THIS DISASTER HAS 11:50:58 FOCUSED PEOPLE'S ENERGIES AND IT WILL STIMULATE INNOVATION. 11:51:03 WE WILL BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. 11:51:06 THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS MADE YESTERDAY IS AN INTERESTING 11:51:10 INTRIGUING ONE. BUT WE WILL WANT TO REVIEW AND 11:51:15 STUDY IT CAREFULLY. IT IS ONE THAT WE, AND YOU AND 11:51:19 THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS GOING TO NEED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN. 11:51:24 MR. ISA FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 11:51:31 JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, YOU KNOW MR. SECRETARY THAT YOUR 11:51:38 DECISION WAS ARBITRARY. IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU SAID 11:51:44 EARLIER TODAY, WOULD YOU SAY THAT RESOURCES THAT ARE FREED UP 11:51:48 AT THE TIME OF THE KILL OF THIS WELL COULD JUST AS EASY BE THE 11:51:53 END OF THE MORATORIUM? AS YOU SAID EARLIER, CLEARLY 11:51:56 THERE WERE RESOURCES THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE NOT 11:52:00 AVAILABLE AS ONE IN 50,000 WELLS HAPPENED A SECOND TIME. 11:52:04 BUT WOULDN'T A TARGET OF THE KILLING OF THIS WELL BE JUST AS 11:52:09 APPROPRIATE FOR CONSIDERING LIMITED WELL-SUPERWELL-SUPERVIS 11:52:16 BACK INTO EXPLORATION OF THE EXISTING 22 RIGS? 11:52:21 CONGRESSMAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR OBSERVATION AND I 11:52:25 APPRECIATE THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT YOU HAVE THAT THESE ISSUES 11:52:30 BE ADDRESSED. BUT THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT 11:52:33 OF WORK THAT WILL BE UNFOLDING. I WILL HAVE A REPORT BACK FROM 11:52:38 THE OVERSIGHT SAFETY BOARD WHICH INCLUDES GREAT WORK FROM THE IN 11:52:43 SPECKER GENERAL AND HER STAFF THAT ARE FOCUSED IN ON THESE 11:52:48 ISSUES WHICH IS DUE ON I BELIEVE ON AUGUST THE 15th. 11:52:53 THE ACADEMY WILL HAVE A REPORT MORE ME BY OCTOBER 31st. 11:53:00 SO, IF THERE IS A POINT IN TIME BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 30th, 11:53:05 WHERE THE THREE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED ARE 11:53:09 ADDRESSED TO OUR SATISFACTION, WE WILL REVISIT THAT TIMELINE. 11:53:13 I APPRECIATE THAT. I YIELD THE BALANCE OF TIME TO 11:53:17 MR. FORTENBERRY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US 11:53:23 TODAY. THIS OIL SPILL IS AN 11:53:28 ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE. WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE 11:53:34 THUR THAT THE LEAK IS CONTINUING TO BE STOPPED AND THAT THE 11:53:37 ENVIRONMENT IS CLEANED UP AND THAT WE WORK WITH THE RESOURCES 11:53:40 WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN, IN THAT 11:53:45 REGARD, YOUR REASONING FOR THE MORATORIUM IS THAT OUR RESOURCES 11:53:49 ARE CURRENTLY DEPLOYED AND DEPLETED AND IN CASE THERE WAS A 11:53:54 SECOND SPILL LIKE THIS WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO WORK 11:53:58 AGAINST IT. BUT GIVEN THAT THERE IS THE 11:54:01 POTENTIAL FOR THIS LEAK TO BE PERMANENTLY STOPPED IN THE NEAR 11:54:05 TERM, YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THAT FACTOR IN TERMS OF THE 11:54:09 MORATORIUM DEADLINES I THINK IS REASONABLE. 11:54:11 THE SECOND POINT BEING GIVEN THAT THE RESOURCES THAT ARE 11:54:18 APPLIED ARE UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE TO MOVE OVERSEAS AND 11:54:24 THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE MORE IMPORTED OIL TO COME INTO OUR 11:54:29 WATERS, MORE TANKERS THAT ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE DRILLING 11:54:37 ITSELF. IS THE MORATORIUM TIMELINE MORE 11:54:41 RISKY? A RELATED POINT IS THAT ALL 11:54:44 DRILL SOMETHING NOT THE SAME. BP WAS ENGAGED IN THE RISKIEST 11:54:48 TYPE OF DRILLING. IS THERE A CONSIDERATION THAT 11:54:53 THOSE MAY BE EXCEPTED AS WELL GIVEN THAT THE PROFILE IS LOWER? 11:54:58 CONGRESSMAN, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. 11:55:00 AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT THE DIRECTOR WILL BE GATHERING 11:55:07 INFORMATION ON. THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT 11:55:08 ACTIVITIES AND DIFFERENT ZONES OF RISK THAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED TO 11:55:12 GO FORWARD. WE HAVE MADE ONE OF THOSE 11:55:16 FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE S 11:55:29 SHALLOW WATER DRILLING AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS AS WE MOVE 11:55:30 FORWARD. SEG MEN STATION OF RISK BASED 11:55:31 ON THE HISTORICAL PAST, ANALYSIS OF RISK RATHER THAN A BLANKET 11:55:36 MORATORIUM? THERE MAY BE FOR EXAMPLE, 11:55:40 DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE EXPIRATION WELLS IN THE DEEP 11:55:44 WATER AND WELLS THAT ARE BEING DRILLED INTO ALREADY DEVELOPED 11:55:51 RESERVOIRS THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE DRILLING 11:55:55 INTO AS OPPOSED TO THE EXPLORATORY TYPE OF WELLS. 11:56:00 SO THOSE ARE THE DISTINCTIONS THAT WE WILL BE TAKING A LOOK AT 11:56:03 IN THE MONTHS AHEAD. I THINK THE LAST THING THAT 11:56:07 WE WANT TO DO IS INCREASE PRESSURES FOR MORE WATER. 11:56:19 WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I VISITED THE AREA 11:56:24 RECENTLY. THESE PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTING 11:56:27 THEMSELVES TO SAVE THEIR WAY OF LIFE AND THE ENVIRONMENT -- 11:56:31 I THINK YOU ARE HEARD. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. 11:56:35 I HAD A GOOD VIDEO FOR YOU, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT AT 11:56:40 ANOTHER TIME. MISS MALONEY. 11:56:44 THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND I THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR 11:56:48 TESTIMONY THE DEVASTATION OF THE BP OIL SPILL HAS HIGHLIGHTED 11:56:53 MANY PROBLEMS IN WORKER'S SAFETY AND CONTAINMENT AND OVERSIGHT. 11:56:58 BUT IT HAS ESPECIALLY HIGHLIGHTED THE MISSMANAGEMENT 11:57:02 OF THE MMS, THE MINERALS AND MANAGEMENT SERVICE AGENCY WHICH 11:57:08 IF MANAGED APPROPRIATELY COULD BRING IN MILLIONS IF NOT 11:57:14 BILLIONS TO OUR TREASURY FROM OIL EXTRACTED FROM LAND OWNS BY 11:57:19 THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. UNDER THE CURRENT STRUCTURE, THE 11:57:23 GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICES FOUND THAT THE MMS SHOULD DO A GREAT 11:57:27 DEAL MORE TO IMPROVE THE ACCURACY OF THE DATA USED TO 11:57:32 COLLECT AND VERIFY THE OIL ROYALTIES, AND I HAVE A BILL IN 11:57:38 HR-1462, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF ENGINEERING 11:57:43 TO STUDY AND COME FORWARD WITH I 11:57:53 IMPROVEMENTS AND REM DECISIONS OF WAYS THAT WE COULD MORE 11:57:54 ACCURATELY COLLECT THE ROYALTIES ON THE PRODUCTION OF OIL. 11:57:55 I WOULD LIKE MR. SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD REVIEW IT AND THIS 11:57:59 COULD BE HELPFUL IN DEFINING IT IN A WAY THAT WE COULD BE MORE 11:58:04 SUCCESSFUL IN GIVING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TAXPAYERS 11:58:08 THEIR JUST REWARD OR THEIR JUST TAX REVENUES OR REVENUES FROM 11:58:13 THIS OIL. ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL 11:58:16 ACCOUNTING OFFICE REPORT, THAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS COMMITTEE, THE 11:58:22 REVENUE SHARE THAT THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTS FROM OIL AND 11:58:25 GAS PRODUCED IN THE GULF RANKS 93rd AMONG THE LOWEST OF THE 104 11:58:32 REVENUE COLLECTION REGIMES AROUND THE WORLD. 11:58:36 ARE WE 93rd IN COLLECTION? I HAVE NOT -- I CANNOT 11:58:48 COMMENT ON THAT STATISTIC. BUT WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING 11:58:51 RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ACCOUNTING OFFICE AS WELL AS 11:58:56 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FORTH FROM THE KERRY-GARNS COMMISSION 11:59:00 THAT ADDRESSED MANY OF THESE ISSUES. 11:59:03 AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT W

House Energy and Commerce Committee holds a hearing with Eddie and Rhonda Smith, Toyota car victims, James Lentz, president and chief operating officer of Toyota USA, Ray LaHood, and Sean Kane, the president, Safety Research Strategies Inc. 15:00:00 ANY OTHER PRODUCT IN THE AUTOMOTIVE SECTOR TO FEEL THOSE 15:00:02 PRODUCTS ARE SAFE -- PERIOD. AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR 15:00:06 ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN SOLVE IT IF YOUR LEGAL 15:00:08 DEPARTMENT WILL LET YOU SOLVE IT. 15:00:11 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> MR. DINGLE WAIVED THE OPENING 15:00:19 STATEMENT AND WAIVED QUESTIONING THE LAST WITNESS. 15:00:21 I'LL GIVE HIM LEEWAY WITH THIS POTENTIAL. 15:00:24 >> I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURTESY. 15:00:26 MR. LENTZ, PLEASE TELL ME THE DATE THAT TOYOTA FIRST HEARD OF 15:00:29 INCIDENTS OF SUDDEN ACCELERATION IN ITS VEHICLES SOLD IN THE U.S. 15:00:35 >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 15:00:37 >> PLEASE SUBMIT THAT TO THE RECORD. 15:00:39 NOW, MR. LENTZ, PLEASE TELL ME THE DATE ON WHICH TOYOTA 15:00:44 COMMENCED THE FIRST RECALL TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM IN THE 15:00:48 UNITED STATES. >> IF I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO 15:00:49 THE FIRST ONE, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE SECOND ONE. 15:00:52 >> PLEASE SUBMIT THAT FOR THE RECORD. 15:00:54 I HAD HEARD THAT THE FIRST NOTICE OF IT IN THE U.S. WAS IN 15:01:00 NOVEMBER. AND THAT YOUR FIRST NOTICE OF IT 15:01:04 IN EUROPE WAS IN MAY. IS THAT CORRECT? 15:01:07 >> I -- >> YES OR NO? 15:01:08 >> I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT SUDDEN 15:01:11 ACCELERATION. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT SUDDEN 15:01:14 ACCELERATION. >> BUT IN NOVEMBER -- SUDDEN 15:01:17 ACCELERATION HAS BEEN AROUND IN THE INDUSTRY FOR 15, 20 YEARS. 15:01:21 >> ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT AN ANSWER, NOT A 15:01:26 SPEECH. NOW, SINCE 200 1SHGS HOW MANY 15:01:30 COMPLAINTS OF SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION IN VEHICLES SOLD IN 15:01:33 THE UNITED STATES HAS TOYOTA BORDER SALES USA RECEIVED? 15:01:37 >> I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. >> PLEASE SUBMIT THAT FOR THE 15:01:39 RECORD. HOW MANY OF THESE COMPLAINTS HAS 15:01:43 TOYOTA MOTOR SALES USA FORWARDED TO NITSA? 15:01:47 >> I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. >> PLEASE SUBMIT THAT FOR THE 15:01:51 RECORD. MR. LENTZ, YES OR NO. 15:01:54 PRIOR TO THE U.S. RECALLS, WERE YOU EMPOWERED TO AUTHORIZE 15:01:59 RECALLS FOR TOYOTA PRODUCTS MANUFACTURED OR SOLD IN THE 15:02:03 UNITED STATES? >> NO. 15:02:06 >> WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? >> JAPAN IS RESPONSIBLE. 15:02:10 >> JAPAN IS RESPONSIBLE. NOW, MR. LENTZ, YES OR NO, IS IT 15:02:14 TRUE THAT TOYOTA RECALL PROCESS FOR VEHICLES MANUFACTURED AND/OR 15:02:21 SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES REQUIRES THE DECISIONS 15:02:23 CONCERNING THESE RECALLS TO BE MADE IN JAPAN OR WITH JAPANESE 15:02:29 OVERSIGHT? >> YES. 15:02:30 >> MR. LENTZ, YES OR NO, IS IT TRUE THAT TOYOTA HAD NOT REACHED 15:02:34 A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER TO RECALL VEHICLE MODELS LINKED TO 15:02:38 SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION PRIOR TO BEING VISITED BY ACTING 15:02:44 NHTSA ADMINISTRATOR RON MEDFORD IN DECEMBER 2009? 15:02:48 YES OR NO? >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE MORE 15:02:52 SPECIFIC ABOUT IS THAT THE FLOOR MAT RECALL ISSUE OR IS THAT THE 15:02:57 STICKING PEDAL ISSUE? >> WELL, APPLY IT TO BOTH. 15:03:01 >> OKAY. IN THE CASE OF THE STICKING 15:03:05 PEDAL ISSUE, I KNOW MR. MEDFORD WENT TO JAPAN. 15:03:09 I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY IF THAT IS THE REASON. 15:03:15 OBVIOUSLY, THEY WERE CLEAR WITH US THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO 15:03:19 SOMETHING WITH THOSE VEHICLES. >> AND YOU HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY 15:03:22 UNTIL THAT TIME DONE ANYTHING? >> IN THE CASE OF THE STICKY 15:03:26 PEDAL SITUATION, WE FIRST -- I FIRST KNEW ABOUT THAT IN 15:03:29 NOVEMBER OF 2009. WE HAD REPORTS OF THREE 15:03:35 VEHICLES -- >> AND HE WENT THERE IN DECEMBER 15:03:37 OF 2009. >> CORRECT. 15:03:39 >> HAD YOU DONE ANYTHING ABOUT A RECALL PRIOR TO THAT TIME? 15:03:42 >> NO, SIR. IT WAS STILL UNDER 15:03:44 INVESTIGATION. >> ALL RIGHT. 15:03:45 NOW, MR. LENTZ, YES OR NO, DID ACTING ADMINISTRATOR MEDFORD'S 15:03:51 DECEMBER 2009 VISIT TO JAPAN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH TOYOTA 15:03:54 EXECUTIVES HAVE ANY INFLUENCE ON THE DECISION TO RECALL VEHICLE 15:03:58 MODELS LINKED TO THE SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION PROBLEM? 15:04:03 >> AGAIN, IF WE WERE SPEAKING OF THE STICKING PEDAL, I DON'T KNOW 15:04:09 SPECIFICALLY. I WAS NOT IN THE MEETING. 15:04:11 I WOULD THINK IT PROBABLY DID. >> IN CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESSED 15:04:16 TO THIS COMMITTEE, CERTAIN OFFICIALS COMMUNICATED THEIR 15:04:18 CONCERN THAT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT'S FINANCIAL STAKE IN 15:04:22 CHRYSLER AND GENERAL MOTORS REPRESENTS A CONFLICT OF 15:04:26 INTEREST THAT MAY BE INFLUENCING ITS REGULATION OF TOYOTA. 15:04:30 IF THAT IS TRUE, I AM OUTRAGED. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT 15:04:36 STATEMENT IS TRUE OR NOT? >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE. 15:04:39 I THINK THE GOVERNMENT'S ACTING FAIRLY. 15:04:41 >> THANK YOU. NOW, MR. LENTZ, YES OR NO, IS 15:04:48 THE EARLY WARNING OF POSSIBLE DEFECTS DIFFERENT IN JAPAN THAN 15:04:52 IN THE UNITED STATES? >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE 15:04:54 PROCESS IN JAPAN. >> YOU WOULD SUBMIT THAT FOR THE 15:04:58 RECORD, PLEASE? MR. LENTZ, ARE THE JAPANESE 15:05:02 REQUIREMENTS IN REGARD TO THIS MATTER MORE OR LESS STRINGENT 15:05:06 THAN AMERICAN STANDARDS? >> AGAIN, MY RESPONSIBILITY IS 15:05:09 THE UNITED STATES. I DON'T KNOW THE STANDARDS FOR 15:05:11 JAPAN. >> NOW, MR. LENTZ, IF THE 15:05:14 JAPANESE REQUIREMENTS ARE LESS STRINGENT, DOES THAT AFFECT HOW 15:05:19 TOYOTA EVALUATES POTENTIAL DEFECTS IN ITS VEHICLES AND 15:05:23 INFLUENCE WHAT INFORMATION THE COMPANY PROVIDES TO U.S. 15:05:28 REGULATORS? YES OR NO? 15:05:29 >> I WOULD THINK NOT. THE DECISION TO MAKE A RECALL IN 15:05:32 THE UNITED STATES IS BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE UNITED 15:05:37 STATES. >> YES OR NO. 15:05:38 HAS TOYOTA DEFINITIVELY RULED OUT NONMECHANICAL FAILURES AS 15:05:43 THE SOURCE OF SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION IN VEHICLES 15:05:47 RECALLED IN LATE 2009 AND EARLY 2010? 15:05:52 >> WE NEVER RULE OUT ANYTHING THAT COULD CAUSE SUDDEN 15:05:57 UNINTENDED -- >> SO YOU WOULD NOT RULE THAT 15:06:00 OUT? >> WE ARE VIGILANT AND CONTINUE 15:06:01 TO LOOK FOR CAUSES. >> HAS TOYOTA DEFINITIVELY 15:06:07 DETERMINED THAT ELECTROMAGNETIC INTERFERENCE OR OTHER FAILURES 15:06:11 IN ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROLS ARE THE CAUSE OF SUDDEN 15:06:16 UNINTENDED ACCELERATION IN THE VEHICLES RECALLED IN 2009 AND 15:06:22 EARLY 2010, YES OR NO? >> WE ARE STUDYING THROUGH THE 15:06:26 EXPONENT STUDY THAT YOU HAVE NOW WHICH WAS PRELIMINARY. 15:06:28 THERE'S A LOT MORE INVESTIGATION TO GO ON. 15:06:31 SO IT'S BEING LOOKED AT AS WELL AS THERE IS GOING TO BE AN 15:06:35 ADVISORY BOARD ON QUALITY AND SAFETY. 15:06:37 >> THANK YOU. >> FOR THE UNITED STATES. 15:06:41 >> I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR TESTIMONY THAT TOYOTA HAS CALLED 15:06:45 UPON EXPONENT TO CONDUCT TESTS ON CERTAIN TOYOTA VEHICLES TO 15:06:49 DETERMINE POSSIBLE CAUSES OF UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. 15:06:53 THAT IS TRUE, IS IT NOT? >> EXPONENT, YES. 15:07:00 >> DID THE REPORT CONCLUDE THAT ELECTROMAGNETIC INTERFERENCE IS 15:07:04 A POTENTIAL CAUSE OF SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION, YES OR 15:07:08 NO? >> IT HAS NOT TESTED 15:07:12 ELECTROMAGNETIC AS OF YET. >> SO THEY DID NOT TEST THAT. 15:07:14 SO THEY DO NOT KNOW. >> IT HAS NOT BEEN TESTED YET. 15:07:17 IT IS GOING TO BE TESTED. AND WE'LL PROVIDE YOU THE FINAL 15:07:20 TESTING WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU. 15:07:22 HOW MANY MODELS OF TOYOTA VEHICLES DID EXPONENT TESTS? 15:07:28 >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT. WHEN I WAS -- 15:07:30 >> HOW MANY DID THEY NOT TEST? >> WHEN I WAS THERE, I SAW FIVE 15:07:37 DIFFERENT MODELS BEING TESTED. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE SUBMIT THE 15:07:41 RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? 15:07:44 NOW YES OR NO? DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS IS AN 15:07:47 ADEQUATE SAMPLE OF VEHICLES FOR THE PURPOSES OF EXPONENT TESTS? 15:07:53 >> IF YOU LOOK AT -- >> YOU SAY YOU SAW FIVE 15:07:56 VEHICLES. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE ETCS 15:08:00 SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM FROM VEHICLE TO VEHICLE IS VERY, VERY 15:08:04 SIMILAR. THE THROTTLE BODY MAY BE A 15:08:08 DIFFERENT SIZE BUT THE GENERAL ARCHITECTURE OF THE SYSTEM IS 15:08:12 SIMILAR. >> MR. LENTZ, I'M A POOR POLISH 15:08:16 LAWYER FROM DETROIT. WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME YES OR 15:08:19 NO SO I CAN UNDERSTAND IT? >> I -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO 15:08:21 ANSWER THAT IN A YES OR NO. >> ALL RIGHT. 15:08:23 >> I THINK THEY ARE TESTING MULTIPLE VEHICLES. 15:08:26 THEY'RE TESTING THE SYSTEM NOT PARTICULARLY HOW DOES IT WORK ON 15:08:30 A CAMRY VERSUS AN FJ CRUISER. >> THANK YOU. 15:08:34 NOW YES OR NO, ARE THE EVENT DATA RECORDERS INSTALLED IN ALL 15:08:39 TOYOTA VEHICLES SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES? 15:08:42 >> AS TO HAVE DAY, NO. >> AS OF TODAY? 15:08:44 >> AS OF TODAY THEY ARE NOT. >> THEN -- AS OF TODAY, NO. 15:08:47 >> THEY ARE NOT IN 100% OF THE VEHICLES. 15:08:49 >> YES OR NO. WOULD THESE EDRs CONTAIN 15:08:54 INFORMATION SUCH AS RECORDINGS OF VEHICLE COMPONENT FAILURES 15:08:57 THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO INVESTIGATORS IN DETERMINING THE 15:09:01 CAUSE OF AN ACCIDENT? >> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 15:09:05 THEY PROVIDE. I CAN TELL YOU THEY PROVIDE 15:09:08 INFORMATION FIVE SECONDS PRIOR AND ONE SECOND AFTER AN 15:09:11 ACCIDENT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT BY -- 15:09:14 >> WOULD YOU PLEASE, MR. LENTZ, SUBMIT TO ME AND FOR THE RECORD 15:09:18 THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? NOW, CAN DATA FROM, AGAIN, YES 15:09:23 OR NO, FROM EDRs INSTALLED IN TOYOTA VEHICLES BE EASILY READ 15:09:29 BY NONTOYOTA PERSONNEL SUCH AS NHTSA INVESTIGATORS? 15:09:34 >> YES. WITH THE PROPER SCAN TOOL OF 15:09:36 WHICH WE ARE GOING TO PRODUCE AND GET 100 OF THEM IN THE 15:09:40 UNITED STATES BY APRIL. WE WILL MAKE -- 15:09:43 >> SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY MADE AVAILABLE? 15:09:46 >> THERE'S ONLY ONE PROTOTYPE IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY. 15:09:49 >> WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR VEHICLES IMPORTED INTO THE 15:09:53 UNITED STATES WERE MANUFACTURED HERE HAVE EDRs? 15:09:56 >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PERCENTAGE. 15:10:00 I THINK IT'S ALL VEHICLES EXCEPT FOR -- IF I CAN LOOK AT NOTES, I 15:10:04 CAN GIVE YOU -- >> PLEASE SUBMIT THAT FOR THE 15:10:07 RECORD. MR. LENTZ, IN GENERAL PRIOR TO 15:10:10 TOYOTA RECALL THIS IS YEAR AND LAST, BY WHOM AND WHERE COULD 15:10:15 SUCH DATA FROM TOYOTA EDRs BE READ IN THE UNITED STATES? 15:10:24 >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE -- 15:10:26 >> ALL RIGHT. IF YOU PLEASE, MR. LENTZ, SUBMIT 15:10:29 THAT FOR THE RECORD. >> THERE'S ONE PROTOTYPE TOOL 15:10:32 AVAILABLE IN THE UNITED STATES. >> SO IF YOU EVER WANTED TO LOOK 15:10:34 AT THAT, HAD TO LOOK AT THAT PROTOTYPE, RIGHT? 15:10:37 >> AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THE PROTOTYPE TOOL IT IS. 15:10:41 >> YOU DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE IT IS? 15:10:43 >> THE STANDARD FOR EDRs COMES IN SEPTEMBER OF 2012. 15:10:50 >> NOW, MR. LENTZ, YES OR NO, DID NHTSA REQUIRE TOYOTA IN 2006 15:10:57 TO CONDUCT A TEST ON ELECTRONIC THROTTLE COMPONENTS FOR 2006 15:11:04 CAMRY? >> YOU COULD REPEAT THE 15:11:06 QUESTION? >> DID NHTSA REQUIRE TOYOTA IN 15:11:12 2006 TO CONDUCT A TEST ON AN ELECTRONIC THROTTLE COMPONENT 15:11:17 FOR A 2006 CAMRY? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO 15:11:20 THAT. >> PLEASE SUBMIT THE ANSWER FOR 15:11:22 THE RECORD. NOW, MR. LENTZ, IF SO, DID 15:11:27 TOYOTA OR A DESIGNATED THIRD PARTY CONDUCT THE TEST? 15:11:29 >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 15:11:31 >> IF IT WAS CONDUCTED BY A THIRD PARTY, WILL YOU PLEASE 15:11:35 TELL THE COMMITTEE ITS NAME AND SUBMIT AN ANSWER TO THOSE TWO 15:11:39 QUESTIONS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, PLEASE. 15:11:41 >> CONGRESSMAN, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. 15:11:43 WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. 15:11:47 >> NOW, ARE REPORTS ON THIS KIND OF INQUIRY GENERATED BY TOYOTA 15:11:54 BY THIRD PARTIES OR BY ITS OWN INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS 15:12:01 SUBMITTED TO NHTSA? >> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE 15:12:05 QUESTION. >> WELL, YOU HAVE THESE STUDIES 15:12:09 BEING MADE IN HOUSE OR BY OTHERS. 15:12:12 AND THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE REPORTS ON THOSE STUDIES 15:12:16 SUBMITTED TO NHTSA OR NOT? >> THE STUDY THAT IS BEING DONE 15:12:22 BY EXPONENT WILL BE GIVEN TO PUBLIC, CONGRESS AND NHTSA. 15:12:26 >> HAVE THEY DONE SO PRIOR TO THIS TIME? 15:12:28 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC STUDY YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. 15:12:31 >> I'LL LET YOU CHOOSE. HAVE ANY OF THEM BEEN GIVEN TO 15:12:35 NHTSA? OR HAVE THEY NOT? 15:12:37 >> I DON'T KNOW GIVEN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN MY RESPONSIBILITY WHICH IS 15:12:42 ON THE SALES END OF THE COMPANY, I CAN'T -- 15:12:44 >> YOU HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS AND KIND WITH YOUR TIME. 15:12:47 BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR 15:12:49 THESE MATTERS? YOU DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE 15:12:51 INFORMATION THAT I HAVE BEEN QUESTIONING FOR. 15:12:53 AND I'M CURIOUS, YOU TOLD US THAT YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 15:12:58 SALES. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 15:13:00 MANUFACTURING? ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY? 15:13:02 ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR DECISIONS OF THIS SORT? 15:13:05 ARE THESE DECISIONS MADE ELSEWHERE IN JAPAN? 15:13:08 >> I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MANUFACTURING. 15:13:11 I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEFECT OR QUALITY DECISIONS. 15:13:16 DEFECT DECISIONS, RECALLS SPECIFICALLY, ARE, IN FACT, MADE 15:13:20 IN JAPAN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE BEEN 15:13:23 MOST GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME. MR. LENTZ, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR 15:13:28 COURTESY. THANK YOU. 15:13:29 >> MR. RUSH FOR QUESTIONS, PLEASE. 15:13:31 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I SEE SOME ATTENDEES ARE WHO ARE 15:13:44 SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW WITH BUTTONS ON THAT SAY I AM TOYOTA 15:13:48 IN AMERICA. ARE THESE SOME OF YOUR 15:13:50 EMPLOYEES? >> THESE ARE SOME OF THE 15:13:52 EMPLOYEES FROM THE ASSEMBLY PLANT THAT DO A GREAT JOB. 15:13:55 >> I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON YOUR DIVERSITY. 15:13:58 I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY DIVERSE WORKFORCE. 15:14:02 I WANT TO WELCOME ALL OF YOUR WORKERS HERE. 15:14:04 >> THANK YOU. THEY'RE HARD-WORKING AMERICANS. 15:14:07 >> THANK YOU. WE'VE HEARD SOME COMPELLING AND 15:14:10 DISTURBING TESTIMONY FROM THE SMITHS THIS MORNING. 15:14:14 AND THE COMMITTEE LEARNED OVER THE COURSE OF THIS 15:14:19 INVESTIGATIONS THAT MR. AND MRS. SMITH WERE NOT ALONE IN THEIR 15:14:21 EXPERIENCE WITH SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. 15:14:25 AND ALSO WITH THEIR FRUSTRATIONS OF DEALING WITH TOYOTA. 15:14:28 IN FACT, TOYOTA RECEIVED THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS FROM ITS 15:14:33 CUSTOMERS ABOUT FRIGHTENING, SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION 15:14:39 INCIDENTS. MANY OF THESE INCIDENTS, UNLIKE 15:14:42 THE SMITHS' RESULTED IN SERIOUS INJURIES OR EVEN FATALITIES. 15:14:50 I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOUR COMPANY WILL RESPOND WITH A SENSE OF 15:14:54 URGENCY AND COMPLETE A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION ON THESE PROBLEMS. 15:14:58 BUT LET'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT TOYOTA DID IN THE SMITH'S CASE. 15:15:09 ONE OF THE MOST TRAGIC THINGS THE COMMITTEE HEARD DURING THIS 15:15:19 INVESTIGATION IS HOW DISMISSIVE TOYOTA HAS BEEN ON THE CUSTOMER 15:15:20 REPORT OF SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. 15:15:27 MR. LENTZ, JUST TO TELL YOU, I HAVE JUST RECEIVED A FEW MOMENTS 15:15:36 AGO TEXT WRITTEN TO ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS. 15:15:45 FROM MY DISTRICT IN CHICAGO. AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO PULL IT 15:15:51 UP. IT SAYS HERE -- IT'S FROM ONE OF 15:15:57 THE EXECUTIVES AT A LOCAL NEWSPAPER IN THE CHICAGO AREA. 15:16:04 AND IT SAYS STEPHANIE, IF REPRESENTATIVE RUSH WANTS TO PUT 15:16:12 A FACE TO THIS TOYOTA MESS, MY SISTER-IN-LAW DIED DECEMBER 28th 15:16:18 IN A CAR INCIDENT NEAR DALLAS, TEXAS. 15:16:21 SHE AND THREE OTHERS WERE RIDING IN A TOYOTA AVALON WHEN IT LEFT 15:16:28 THE ROAD, HIT A TREE, FLIPPED IN THE AIR AND LANDED UP SIDE DOWN 15:16:33 IN A POND. EVERYONE DIED. 15:16:36 POLICE SAID THERE WERE NO EVIDENCE OF ANY BRAKING, GIVEN 15:16:41 RISE TO THE IDEA THAT IT WAS AN ACCELERATOR PROBLEM. 15:16:46 MY SISTER-IN-LAW, SHARON LOVE RANSOM, WAS A SENIOR EXECUTIVE 15:16:51 WITH IBM. THIS IS ANOTHER INDICATION. 15:16:57 YOU'VE INDICATED TO THIS COMMITTEE THIS MORNING OR THIS 15:17:02 AFTERNOON THAT YOU WILL RETRIEVE THE SMITH'S CAR. 15:17:06 WOULD IT BE ASKING YOU TOO MUCH TO LOOK INTO THIS MATTER AND IF 15:17:11 POSSIBLE, RETRIEVE THE CAR INVOLVED IN THIS ACCIDENT? 15:17:16 >> IF IT'S THE ACCIDENT THAT I'M THINKING OF, AND WE CAN HAVE OUR 15:17:20 STAFF CHECK, BOTH TOYOTA ENGINEERS AND NHTSA DID, IN 15:17:27 FACT, INSPECT THAT VEHICLE. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY 15:17:30 DETERMINED? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS 15:17:33 DETERMINED. MY UNDERSTANDING -- 15:17:34 >> WOULD YOU CHECK INTO THIS? >> YES. 15:17:36 WE'LL CHECK INTO IT. >> HAS THERE BEEN ANY ISSUE WITH 15:17:41 AVALON BRAND? >> THERE HAVE BEEN CASES OF BOTH 15:17:45 STICKING PEDALS AS WELL AS FLOOR MAT ENTRAPMENTS, YES. 15:17:51 >> MR. LENTZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT OUT OF 15:17:58 THE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS THAT TOYOTA OR LEXUS 15:18:07 OWNERS ARE INVENTING THESE TERRIFYING STORIES ABOUT THEIR 15:18:10 DRIVING EXPERIENCES? >> NO. 15:18:15 BUT FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT'S CRITICAL THAT 15:18:18 WE GET INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN GO AND INVESTIGATE. 15:18:22 TODAY, IN MANY CASES, INFORMATION THAT IS SUBMITTED ON 15:18:26 THE WEBSITE, UNLESS THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION OPEN, WE DON'T 15:18:29 HAVE THE NAME OF THE CUSTOMER OR THE FULL VIN NUMBER. 15:18:34 I THINK GOING FORWARD, ONE THING THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT DOING 15:18:37 IS MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE MANUFACTURERS SO WE CAN CROSS 15:18:41 REFERENCE THAT AGAINST OUR DATA BASES AND WE CAN INVESTIGATE 15:18:44 THESE MUCH SOONER AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO 15:18:47 BE OPEN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. >> FROM A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE, 15:18:55 DON'T YOU FEEL AS THOUGH TOYOTA AND YOURSELF, DON'T YOU FEEL AS 15:19:01 THOUGH YOU OWE YOUR CUSTOMERS WHO SOME HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME 15:19:09 SERIOUS INJURIES A LOT OF HURT AND PAIN, DON'T YOU FEEL AS 15:19:14 THOUGH YOU OWE THEM A SINCERE APOLOGY FOR YOUR COMPANY, YOUR 15:19:23 VEHICLES, YOUR PRODUCT CAUSING THEM SINCERE PAIN? 15:19:26 CAN'T YOU JUST APOLOGIZE? >> YES, SIR. 15:19:28 YES, SIR, WE HAVE. BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU, AND 15:19:32 WHETHER IT IS AN ACCIDENT, AN INJURY, I MEAN WE HEARD THE 15:19:36 SMITHS TODAY. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A DEATH 15:19:39 TO UNDERSTAND THE TERROR THAT SHE HAD FROM THAT ACCIDENT. 15:19:42 I MEAN THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO HAVE TO PUT ONE OF OUR 15:19:47 CUSTOMERS THROUGH. AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE 15:19:49 AN ACCIDENT. WE HAVE APOLOGIZED TO OUR 15:19:52 CONSUMERS JUST FOR THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THEM WITH 15:19:56 THEIR CURRENT RECALL VEHICLES. WE ARE SINCERELY SORRY FOR THAT 15:20:01 CONCERN AND ANXIETY WE PUT PEOPLE THROUGH. 15:20:03 I MEAN MYSELF, MY WIFE DRIVES A TOYOTA PRIUS. 15:20:08 IT'S A RECALLED VEHICLE. MY SON DRIVES A PRIUS. 15:20:11 IT'S A RECALLED VEHICLE. MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS IN AN ES 15:20:18 2006. MY FATHER HAS A SEQUOIA. 15:20:22 THEY'RE RECALLED VEHICLES. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE 15:20:24 THAT MY LOVED ONES ARE SAFE AS WELL. 15:20:29 >> FROM A -- SWITCHING BACK OVER TO THE ENGINEERING, BUT YOU 15:20:34 STILL HAVE BEEN PRETTY EVASIVE HERE ABOUT THE CAUSE, THE ACTUAL 15:20:42 CAUSE OF ALL THIS PAIN AND SUFFERING. 15:20:52 THERE IS A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES AND A LOT OF 15:20:55 ANGLES YOU'RE OPERATING FROM. I'M NOT SURE IF THE APOLOGY -- 15:20:59 WHAT IS IT BASED ON? IS IT SINCERE? 15:21:02 IS THIS REALLY A PROBLEM FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU 15:21:09 ARE ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY FOR? >> ANY TIME THERE IS ONE DEATH 15:21:14 IN ONE OF OUR VEHICLES, THAT PAINS US TO HAVE THAT TAKE 15:21:19 PLACE. REGARDLESS OF HOW IT HAPPENS. 15:21:21 BUT IT'S CRITICAL TODAY. AND WE WEREN'T DOING A GOOD JOB 15:21:25 IN THE PAST OF INVESTIGATING THOSE QUICKLY ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY 15:21:28 WHEN IT HAD TO DO WITH UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. 15:21:31 AND WITH ADDING THESE NEW ENGINEERS, THESE S.W.A.T. TEAMS 15:21:37 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ON SITE AS RAPIDLY AS WE 15:21:39 CAN, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE IT IN 24 HOURS. 15:21:42 WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S 15:21:45 HAPPENING AND MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES SO THAT IT DOESN'T 15:21:48 HAPPEN AGAIN. I CAN TELL YOU I LOST A BROTHER 15:21:55 IN AN ACCIDENT A WEEK AFTER HIS 30th BIRTHDAY. 15:21:58 AND THAT WAS 20-SOME YEARS AGO. AND THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT GOES 15:22:02 BY THAT I DON'T THINK OF THAT. SO I KNOW WHAT THESE FAMILIES GO 15:22:08 THROUGH. >> THANK YOU, MR. RUSH. 15:22:18 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. LENTZ, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT 15:22:25 TOYOTA GOT THE FIRST RECALL IN 2000 WHEN THE BRITISH ORDERED A 15:22:35 LEXUS RECALL DUE TO ACCELERATION PROBLEM. 15:22:37 THEY GOT A SECOND ALARM IN 2003 WITH THE CANADIAN RECALL. 15:22:43 TOYOTA IS A GLOBAL CORPORATION. THOSE TWO ALARM BELLS SHOULD 15:22:52 HAVE SENT YOUR ENGINEERS SCRAMBLING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 15:22:54 WAS WRONG AND WHAT WAS NEEDED TO BE DONE TO FIX THE PROBLEMS. 15:22:58 INSTEAD, THE SAME TYPES OF PROBLEMS CROPPED UP IN 15:23:02 ADDITIONAL TOYOTA MODELS RESULTING IN THE RECALLS THAT 15:23:06 BRING YOU HERE TODAY. SO INSTEAD OF DEPLOYING YOUR 15:23:12 EVERYTHING NEARS AFTER TOYOTA GOT THOSE EARLY WARNINGS IN 2000 15:23:15 AND 2003, THEY WAITED UNTIL PROBLEMS CROPPED UP IN THE 15:23:23 UNITED STATES AND THEN TOYOTA DEPLOYED LAWYERS AND LOBBYISTS 15:23:27 TO CONVINCE THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THIS WAS A 15:23:32 SMALL FLOOR MAT ISSUE AND NOT SOMETHING MORE SERIOUS. 15:23:35 AND THAT, MR. LENTZ, HAS DONE A DISSERVICE TO TOYOTA'S KISTS AND 15:23:43 U CUSTOMERS AND ULTIMATELY TO 15:23:45 TOYOTA'S DEALERS AND EMPLOYEES. SO ACCORDING TO DOCUMENTS 15:23:49 OBTAINED BY MY OFFICE, TOYOTA RECALLED A LEXUS IN THE UNITED 15:23:54 KINGDOM IN 2000 AND A SELLICA IN CANADA IN 2003 BECAUSE OF FLOOR 15:23:59 MATS WERE ENTRAPPING THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL AND THE EXACT 15:24:03 SAME PROBLEM THAT HAS CAUSED FATALITIES IN THIS COUNTRY. 15:24:07 WHY DIDN'T TOYOTA TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO PREVENT THE MUCH LATER 15:24:12 ACCIDENTS THAT TOYOTA CLEARLY KNEW THE PROBLEM EXISTED AS FAR 15:24:18 BACK AS 2000? >> SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE TWO 15:24:25 I INCIDENCES, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE 15:24:26 SPECIFICS OF THOSE. I DO NOT KNOW. 15:24:29 BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT A WEAKNESS IN OUR SYSTEM HAS BEEN 15:24:34 WITHIN THIS COMPANY WE DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF SHARING 15:24:38 INFORMATION ACROSS THE GLOBE. MOST OF THE INFORMATION WAS ONE 15:24:44 WAY. IT WOULD FLOW FROM THE REGIONAL 15:24:46 MARKETS LIKE THE UNITED STATES, CANADA, OR EUROPE BACK TO JAPAN. 15:24:50 >> OKAY. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT 15:24:55 ULTIMATELY THE DECISIONS ARE MADE IN JAPAN? 15:24:57 >> IN THE CASE OF -- >> AND NOTWITHSTANDING PROBLEMS 15:25:01 THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, IN CANADA, THE 15:25:05 INFORMATION GOES BACK TO TOYOTA HEADQUARTERS IN TOKYO AND 15:25:12 WHETHER OR NOT YOU IN AMERICA ARE GIVEN ORDERS TO CORRECT THE 15:25:16 PROBLEM, IDENTIFY IT IN OTHER COUNTRIES, IS NOT IN YOUR HANDS. 15:25:18 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> CORRECT. 15:25:20 BUT THAT IS CHANGING. THERE IS GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF 15:25:24 DIFFERENT GROUPS SET UP. THERE IS AN OVERALL QUALITY 15:25:28 GROUP THAT TOYOTA IS GOING TO CHAIR. 15:25:31 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S -- THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CHANGE. 15:25:35 OBVIOUSLY IT IS A POLICY THAT I'M SURE ALL AMERICANS ARE 15:25:39 SHOCKED TO LEARN EXISTED. THAT IS THAT THIS SYSTEM OF 15:25:43 QUALITY CONTROL, THE TOYOTA REPRESENTS TO BE AT THE HEART OF 15:25:47 THEIR CORPORATION WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHARED 15:25:50 INFORMATION ABOUT DEFECTS IN PRODUCTS THAT WERE BEING SOLD IN 15:25:53 THE UNITED STATES EVEN THOUGH IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OTHER 15:25:56 COUNTRIES. AND THAT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE. 15:25:59 JUST PLAIN UNACCEPTABLE TO THE CONSUMERS HERE IN AMERICA. 15:26:03 LET ME MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY IF I CAN. 15:26:05 YOU TOLD THE "TODAY" SHOW THAT THE STICKY ACCELERAOR PEDAL AND 15:26:13 THE MAT PROBLEMS WERE THE ONLY PROBLEMS. 15:26:16 AND YOU FIXED THEM. YOU SAID TODAY THAT YOU HAVE 15:26:20 ONLY JUST BEGUN TO TEST WHETHER OR NOT THE ELECTRONICS ARE THE 15:26:26 PROBLEM AND THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU CAN'T RULE 15:26:28 OUT THAT POSSIBILITY. SO THE REALITY IS YOU DON'T KNOW 15:26:32 WHAT IS CAUSING ALL THE VEHICLES TO SUDDENLY ACCELERATE. 15:26:36 AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM, DO YOU? 15:26:40 >> THERE ARE MANY, MANY CAUSES. IN TERMS OF THE RECALLED 15:26:44 VEHICLES -- >> BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU 15:26:46 SOLVED THE PROBLEM? >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE, ANY 15:26:49 MANUFACTURER KNOWS 100% EXACTLY WHAT IS CAUSING IT. 15:26:53 BECAUSE IF WE DID -- >> WHAT I'M SAYING SINCE YOU'RE 15:26:57 ONLY BEGINNING THE INVESTIGATION, YOU DON'T KNOW IF 15:27:00 YOU'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM, IS THAT CORRECT? 15:27:01 >> ETCS HAS BEEN LOOKED AT IN THE PAST IN JAPAN AS THEY 15:27:07 DEVELOP THE PRODUCTS. BUT -- 15:27:08 >> YOU SAID YOU HAD SOLVED THE PROBLEM. 15:27:10 THE TRUTH IS YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM. 15:27:14 ISN'T THAT CORRECT? >> LET ME CLARIFY MY STATEMENT. 15:27:20 IN TERMS OF SOLVING THE ISSUES OF THOSE RECALLS, WE SOLVED THE 15:27:27 PROBLEM. AND IF IN DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE 15:27:29 ALSO SENT YOU, WHEN I DID A NUMBER OF INTERVIEWS WITH 15:27:33 JOURNALISTS, I MADE IT QUITE CLEAR THAT MY FEELING IS -- AND 15:27:37 THIS IS A QUOTE -- MY FEELING IS THESE TWO FIXES SOLVE THE ISSUES 15:27:40 THAT WE KNOW OF. ARE WE GOING TO REMAIN VIGILANT? 15:27:44 OF COURSE WE WILL. BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT 15:27:47 ENTRAPMENT IS A CAUSE. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE PEDAL 15:27:50 ISSUE IS A CAUSE. AND WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THOSE 15:27:53 TWO FIXES. BUT WE ARE ALSO CONFIDENT THAT 15:27:56 FROM WHAT WE KNOW TODAY IT IS NOT AN ELECTRONICS ISSUE. 15:27:59 >> WHAT YOU KNOW TODAY, BUT, AGAIN, YOU'RE ONLY AT THE 15:28:03 BEGINNING OF YOUR INVESTIGATION. SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED 15:28:08 THE PROBLEM, DO YOU? >> WE HAVE NOT SEEN FAILURES IN 15:28:11 THE ETCS AND WE HAVE -- THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME ETCS HAS 15:28:16 BEEN LOOKED AT. IT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE 15:28:21 GONE TO EXPONENT TO LOOK AT IT. WHEN WE PUT IN OUR QUALITY NORTH 15:28:26 AMERICAN ADVISORY BOARD, THEY WILL HAVE TOTAL INDEPENDENT 15:28:29 CONTROL OF A ANOTHER STUDY OF THEIR CHOOSING. 15:28:32 NOW THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE. THAT COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE IN 15:28:35 PLACE BY THE END OF MARCH. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER 15:28:38 STUDY SOON RIGHT AFTER THIS. >> AND IS THE SAME THING TRUE 15:28:44 FOR THE PROBLEM WITH THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL 15:28:46 SYSTEM IN YOUR VEHICLES? DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S WRONG THERE? 15:28:49 >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 15:28:51 THE ETC IS ELECTRONIC CONTROL, SORRY. 15:28:55 >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG THERE EITHER? 15:28:56 >> AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT SEEN FAILURES. 15:28:59 IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT IN JAPAN IN THE PAST. 15:29:02 >> IF THERE IS NO POSSIBLE PROBLEM WITH YOUR ELECTRONIC 15:29:06 THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEMS, WHY DO YOU NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 15:29:10 OVERRIDE THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE IF THERE IS NO PROBLEM? 15:29:13 WHY DO YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO OVERRIDE IT? 15:29:16 >> YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN. 15:29:19 IN THE EVENT THERE IS SOMETHING. >> YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. 15:29:22 YOU CAN'T SAY THERE'S NO PROBLEM BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY 15:29:24 TO OVERRIDE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 15:29:26 IT LEAVES PEOPLE WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE MUST BE A 15:29:29 PROBLEM. >> BUT THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO 15:29:31 CONTINUAL TEST AND TEST AND TEST IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING 15:29:35 DEVELOPS. IT COULD BE -- IT COULD BE A 15:29:38 CHANGE IN THE EMI. IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF 15:29:41 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUAL TEST AND VERIFY. 15:29:44 >> I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I JUST WISH THAT THERE WAS A 15:29:47 LITTLE BIT MORE HUMILITY HERE WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU DON'T 15:29:50 KNOW, THAT YOU JUST SAY YOU DON'T KNOW AND THEN THE PUBLIC 15:29:54 AS THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND CARRIES THAT KIND OF CAUTIONARY 15:29:58 WARNING WITH THEM AS THEY'RE DRIVING PENDING THE COMPLETION 15:30:01 OF ALL OF YOUR STUDIES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, VERY 15:30:06 MUCH. >> THANK YOU. 15:30:07 NEXT FOR QUESTIONS WE GO TO MISS BEGET. 15:30:19 >> THANK YOU, MR. LENTZ. I PROBABLY HOLD THE RECORD AMONG 15:30:22 THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BECAUSE I HAVE THREE CAMRYS. 15:30:26 SO I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT JUST LIKE YOU 15:30:29 ARE FOR YOUR FAMILY. I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE 15:30:34 QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS YOU JUST TOLD 15:30:36 MR. MARKY THAT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE 15:30:39 LOOKED AT THE ETCS. AND YOU FOLKS PROVIDED A NUMBER 15:30:43 OF DOCUMENTS IN RESPONSE TO OUR FEBRUARY 2nd, 2010, REQUEST. 15:30:50 HAVE YOU, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, HAS TOYOTA PROVIDED ALL OF THE 15:30:54 DOCUMENTS RELATING TO PREVIOUS TESTS OF THE ETCS? 15:30:57 >> AGAIN, I CAN'T TELL YOU. IT'S A TEST OR JUST DEVELOPMENT 15:31:02 CYCLE. >> WELL, I -- I UNDERSTAND -- I 15:31:04 MEAN WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF 15:31:07 DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT. 15:31:10 WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS 15:31:14 RELATING TO THE TESTING OF THE ETCS THAT YOU JUST TESTIFIED 15:31:19 THAT YOU FOLKS, THAT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU LOOKED AT IT. 15:31:24 AND HAVE WE RECEIVED ALL THE DOCUMENTS RELATING TO PREVIOUS 15:31:27 TESTING OF THE ETCS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE CARE 15:31:30 ABOUT HERE. >> I UNDERSTAND. 15:31:31 I'LL HAVE TO CHECK. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. 15:31:32 >> OKAY. IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL 15:31:35 DOCUMENTS, WILL YOU PROVIDE THOSE, PLEASE, TO THIS 15:31:37 COMMITTEE? >> OF COURSE. 15:31:38 >> NOW THE ONLY DOCUMENT THAT TOYOTA HAS PRODUCED TO US THAT 15:31:42 WE HAVE SEEN THAT CLAIMS TO ADDRESS THE PHENOMENON OF SUDDEN 15:31:47 UNINTENDED ACCELERATION IS THIS FEBRUARY 2010 REPORT THAT WE'VE 15:31:51 BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY EXPONENT. 15:31:56 MY FIRST QUESTION IS THAT REPORT WAS COMMISSIONED IN DECEMBER 15:32:00 2009, TWO MONTHS AGO BY TOYOTA'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY, CORRECT? 15:32:05 >> YES, I BELIEVE SO. >> AND HOW MUCH MONEY WAS 15:32:08 PAID -- I KNOW MR. BOYER WOULD WANT TO 15:32:10 KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. 15:32:11 HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PAID TO EXPONENT? 15:32:21 >> YOU WOULD MIND SUPPLEMENTING YOUR RESPONSE WITH THAT 15:32:23 INFORMATION? WAS IT OVER $1,800 AS FAR AS YOU 15:32:27 KNOW? >> I AM SURE. 15:32:28 >> I AM SURE IT IS, TOO. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE 15:32:34 GIVEN THEM AN UNLIMITED BUDGET TO TEST AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO 15:32:37 FIND OUT ABOUT THAT. >> AND I'M GLAD YOU HAVE. 15:32:41 BUT I DON'T -- I MEAN YOU JUST AS YOU WOULDN'T QUESTION 15:32:46 EFFICACY OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS WITNESS TESTIFIED TO BECAUSE HE 15:32:51 WAS PAID A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS. >> RIGHT. 15:32:53 >> YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD TAINT THE SCIENTIFIC 15:32:57 RESULTS OF YOUR EXPERTS EITHER, WOULD YOU? 15:32:58 >> WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD -- 15:33:02 >> YES OR NO IS A GOOD ANSWER FOR ME. 15:33:04 >> I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD FEEL THAT WAY. 15:33:05 >> I MEAN YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT YOUR PEOPLE WOULD BE 15:33:08 TAINTED ANY MORE THAN THE LAST WITNESS WOULD. 15:33:10 >> NO. >> BY BEING PAID SOME KIND OF A 15:33:12 MONEY, CORRECT? >> NO. 15:33:14 >> THANK YOU. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 15:33:17 LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THE EXPONENT REPORT WAS 15:33:23 CONSIDERED TO BE AN INTERIM REPORT, CORRECT? 15:33:26 SO THEY'RE STILL CONDUCTING TESTS. 15:33:27 >> CORRECT. >> IS THAT RIGHT? 15:33:29 OKAY. WILL YOU PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE 15:33:31 WITH THE FINAL TEST RESULTS WHEN THEY ARE OBTAINED? 15:33:34 >> YES, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC. 15:33:37 >> WHETHER DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN? 15:33:38 >> I DON'T KNOW. >> NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING 15:33:40 THAT TOYOTA'S COUNSEL WHO IS SITTING RIGHT BEHIND YOU TOLD 15:33:45 COMMITTEE STAFF TODAY THAT TOYOTA HAD, IN FACT, REPLICATED 15:33:49 DR. GILBERT'S TESTS. AND THAT TOYOTA WAS ABLE TO 15:33:55 PRODUCE THE SAME CONDITIONS WITHOUT TRIGGERING AN ERROR. 15:33:57 IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. 15:34:06 >> WHEN DID EXPONENT DO THAT TEST? 15:34:08 >> THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT. 15:34:10 >> SO THIS IS NEW INFORMATION FOR US? 15:34:11 >> YES. >> I'M ASSUMING TOYOTA WILL BE 15:34:14 WILLING TO SHART RESULTS OF THAT TESTING ALSO WITH THIS 15:34:17 COMMITTEE, CORRECT? >> YES, WE WILL. 15:34:18 >> NOW, IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, YOU SAID THAT TOYOTA 15:34:22 HAD DONE EXTENSIVE TESTING OF ELECTRONICS AND FOUND NO ISSUES. 15:34:26 DO YOU WISH TO CHANGE OR CLARIFY THIS REMARK IN LIGHT OF THE 15:34:31 FINDINGS DISCLOSED TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY? 15:34:38 >> AGAIN, I'M RELYING ON THE INFORMATION FROM JAPAN THAT THEY 15:34:43 TOLD ME THEY HAVE DONE TESTING. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT MYSELF. 15:34:46 I HAVE NOT SEEN TEST RESULTS. I'M RELYING ON THEIR INFORMATION 15:34:48 TO ME THAT THEY HAVE TESTED IT EXTENSIVELY. 15:34:51 >> OKAY. IN LIGHT OF THE NEW REVELATIONS 15:34:54 REVEALED BY YOUR ATTORNEY MR. HESTER THAT EXPONENT WAS ABLE TO 15:34:59 REPLICATE THE SAME CONDITIONS AS DR. GILBERT LAST NIGHT. 15:35:03 DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY? 15:35:05 >> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND. >> OKAY. 15:35:08 LATE LAST NIGHT, ACCORDING TO YOUR TESTIMONY -- 15:35:10 >> OKAY. NOW I UNDERSTAND. 15:35:12 >> OKAY. >> WE WILL PROVIDE THAT. 15:35:14 I WILL TELL YOU, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MR. GILBERT HAS 15:35:21 DONE THIS. >> ARE YOU DISAGREEING WITH 15:35:29 XPOEN SNENT. >> NO, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MR. 15:35:31 GILBERT HAS DONE IS NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT IS REAL WORLD 15:35:35 THAT CAN HAPPEN. AND I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT 15:35:39 EXPONENT WAS ALSO ABLE TO DO THIS ON A COMPETITIVE VEHICLE 15:35:41 WITH THE SAME RESULT. SO THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO TOYOTA. 15:35:51 >> OKAY. NOW I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR 15:35:55 YOU. I WOULD ASSUME, IN LIGHT OF THE 15:35:57 QUESTIONS RAISED BY DR. GILBERT'S TESTIMONY TODAY AS 15:36:00 WELL AS THE WITNESSES, MR. AND MRS. SMITH, AND WE HAVE A LOT 15:36:08 MOR MORE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION. 15:36:10 I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT TOYOTA IS GOING TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, 15:36:14 THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DENY THAT THESE ACCELERATION ISSUES 15:36:18 COULD BE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE ETCS AND THAT THEY'RE GOING 15:36:21 TO EXPEDITIOUSLY INVESTIGATE THIS AND GOING TO PROVIDE THE 15:36:26 RESULTS OF THIS COMMITTEE. >> YES. 15:36:27 >> IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT OF YOUR INTENTION? 15:36:30 >> YES. >> I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING 15:36:31 FROM YOU. THANK YOU. 15:36:35 >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 15:36:37 MR. DOYLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 15:36:40 WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS 15:36:42 YOU'VE ANSWERED. SO YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY OF 15:36:50 THE FIRST PANEL AND DR. GILBERT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY REASONABLE 15:36:54 GUY. AND YOU JUST FOUND OUT THAT YOUR 15:36:57 TESTING COMPANY WAS ABLE TO DUPLICATE WHAT HE DID. 15:37:02 DOESN'T IT MAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SENSE, AND I THINK THAT JOE 15:37:04 BARTON SAID THE SAME THING THAT, YOU GUYS TALKED TO DR. GILBERT 15:37:09 WHEN THE SHEARING OVER, PROBABLY OFFER HIM MORE THAN $1800 AND 15:37:12 ASK HIM TO COME DOWN TO TOYOTA OR WITH EXPONENT AND THE THREE 15:37:17 OF YOU SIT TOGETHER AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING -- WHAT'S THE 15:37:22 DOWN SIDE TO TESTING THIS GENTLEMAN'S THEORY OUT? 15:37:25 >> THERE'S NO DOWN SIDE. THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO DOWN 15:37:28 PLAY WHAT HE HAS DONE. AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HIS 15:37:31 TESTING PARADIGM. BUT WE WELCOME ANYONE THAT CAN 15:37:36 FIND ANY ISSUES WITH OUR ELECTRONICS. 15:37:40 I MEAN IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, WE WANT TO FIND IT AND WE WANT TO 15:37:44 FIX IT. SO, YEAH, THERE'S NO PROBLEM 15:37:46 WITH THAT. >> IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO 15:37:48 FIND -- NO ONE HAS MORE TO LOSE THAN YOU AND YOUR EMPLOYEES AND 15:37:52 DEALERS TO NOT FIX THIS PROBLEM. I MEAN YOU SHOULD HAVE EVERY 15:37:55 INCENTIVE. I BELIEVE YOU DO WANT TO FIX THE 15:37:57 PROBLEM. I MEAN THIS IS -- YOUR COMPANY 15:37:59 HAS A VERY GOOD REPUTATION. IT'S BEEN PUT INTO QUESTION. 15:38:03 AND YOU KNOW PERCEPTION IS REALITY. 15:38:07 IF THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT YOUR CAR ISN'T SAFE, YOU NEED TO GO 15:38:10 OUT OF YOUR WAY TO PROVE THAT IT IS. 15:38:12 >> YES, SIR. >> AND SO I JUST -- I JUST 15:38:15 THINK, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU LEAVE WASHINGTON YOU OUGHT TO 15:38:17 GET THIS GUY'S PHONE NUMBER AND HE SHOULD BE SITTING DOWN WITH 15:38:21 YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU OUGHT TO TEST HIS PARADIGM AND SEE 15:38:24 WHETHER IT HAS ANY MERIT. >> AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHEN 15:38:28 I WAS AT EXPONENT, I DROVE A VEHICLE AS THEY DID THE TEST TO 15:38:36 SHORT CIRCUIT THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL. 15:38:39 AND SO I HAD THE SENSE AND THE FEEL OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT 15:38:42 GETS IN THE LIMP MODE, HOW THEY CAN MEASURE WHAT HAPPENED. 15:38:47 AND THAT'S WHY I JUST HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AS DOES 15:38:52 EXPONENT WHAT MR. GILBERT DID. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE 15:38:55 WERE SPLICING WIRES TOGETHER. >> OKAY. 15:38:58 YEAH, AND IF I WERE YOU, I'D WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE DSHGS TOO. 15:39:02 THERE'S NO GOOD OUTCOME FROM YOU NOT TRYING TO GET THIS PROBLEM 15:39:06 FIXED. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA. 15:39:07 IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR YOUR COMPANY HERE 15:39:10 IN THIS COUNTRY. AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE 15:39:13 YOUR CARS FOR YOU NOT TO GO THE EXTRA MILE AND TEST ANY THEORY 15:39:17 THAT SEEMS TO HAVE ANY MERIT TO IT. 15:39:19 >> I AGREE 100%. AND THAT'S ALSO WHY GOING 15:39:22 FORWARD ANY TIME WE HAVE A REPORTED INCIDENT OF UA, WE'RE 15:39:27 GOING TO SEND A S.W.A.T. TEAM OUT THERE, THE GOAL IS WITHIN 24 15:39:30 HOURS, SO WE CAN LEARN AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 15:39:32 THAT IS WHY IT IS ALSO HELPFUL IF WE COULD GET FULL VIN 15:39:39 NUMBERS. SOMETIMES THEY GET A COMPLAINT 15:39:40 WE DON'T EVER RECEIVE. AND THE CURRENT THING, UNLESS AN 15:39:43 INVESTIGATION OPENED UP, WE CAN'T GET THAT INFORMATION. 15:39:45 IT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL, FOR THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, NOT JUST 15:39:48 US. >> OKAY. TIME, I'M GOING TO YIELD BACK. 15:39:52 >> THANK YOU, MR. DOYLE. MISS CHRISTIANSON FOR QUESTIONS. 15:39:56 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I WANT TO TAKE THIS 15:39:58 OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME THE DEALERS AND THE WORKERS IN THE 15:40:02 AUDIENCE AND RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WERE HERE WHEN I MADE MY OPENING 15:40:05 STATEMENT. BUT I DID SAY AT THE TIME THAT 15:40:08 WE WANT THIS TOYOTA TO REALLY FIX THIS QUICKLY, NOT ONLY FOR 15:40:11 THE CUSTOMERS BUT FOR THE WORKERS AND THE FAMILIES THAT 15:40:15 DEPEND ON THEM HAVING A JOB. UNTIL ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN 15:40:21 YOUR POSITION? >> SINCE JULY OF 2006. 15:40:26 AS AN EVP, THEN PRESIDENT, THEN PRESIDENT COO. 15:40:30 BUT BASICALLY THE SAME RESPONSIBILITY. 15:40:33 >> I READ AN ARTICLE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT PAPER, ABOUT A 15:40:37 WEEK AND A HALF AGO MAYBE. IT WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE 15:40:41 HISTORY THAT TOYOTA HAS IN NOT RESPONDING TO COMPLAINTS. 15:40:47 BUT IT STARTED OUT BY SAYING THAT IN THE LATE '80s, TOYOTA 15:40:52 WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO A CUSTOMER'S HOME AND SAY YOUR CAR 15:40:57 HAS A PROBLEM. WE PICK IT UP. 15:40:58 THEY PICK IT UP AND TAKE IT AND FIX IT. 15:41:01 BY LATE '9 O'S AND BEYOND THAT, TOYOTA STARTED MAYBE FIXING 15:41:07 PROBLEMS THAT THEY FOUND IN FUTURE CARS AND NOT EVEN TELLING 15:41:09 THE OTHER CUSTOMERS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS. 15:41:12 AND THEN WE HAVE THE FAILURES THAT HAVE BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. 15:41:16 SO THAT'S A TOTAL CULTURE SHIFT OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. 15:41:20 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT HAPPENED? I MEAN WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 15:41:23 TOYOTA OF THE '80s TO BRING US TO THE TOYOTA OF THE 2010? 15:41:31 >> ONE COMMENT BEFORE THAT IS THERE ARE DEALERS THAT STILL 15:41:34 MAKE HOUSE CALLS. MY FATHER WHO LIVES IN COLORADO, 15:41:38 HIS SALESMAN LIVES ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MILES AWAY AND EVERY 15:41:41 TIME HE NEEDS SERVICE, THE SALES PERSON DROPS HIS DEMO OFF, PICKS 15:41:45 UP MY DAD'S CAR AND TAKES IT IN FOR SERVICE. 15:41:48 SO THAT DOES STILL HAPPEN. WE'RE NOT TOTALLY OUT OF THE 15:41:52 '80s YET. BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, I 15:41:58 THINK WE LOST SIGHT OF THE CUSTOMER. 15:42:07 I DON'T THINK IT WAS A GOAL FOR US TO GROW FASTER BUT WE DID. 15:42:11 WE HAD A LOT OF CUSTOMERS THAT LOVED OUR PRODUCT. 15:42:14 OUR LOYALTY RATES WERE GROWING HIGHER AND HIGHER. 15:42:17 AND OUR VOLUME GREW. THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PRODUCT 15:42:21 LINE GREW FROM THE NUMBER OF MODELS TO THE NUMBER OF ENGINES 15:42:25 TO THE NUMBER OF TRANSMISSIONS TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES 15:42:28 WITH IT. AND I THINK WE OUTGREW OUR 15:42:32 ENGINEERING RESOURCE. AND I THINK WHEN THAT HAPPENS -- 15:42:35 AND WE HAD STRATEGIES TO DEAL WITH THAT. 15:42:38 BUT THE STRATEGIES DIDN'T WORK. AND I THINK AS A RESULT OF THAT, 15:42:42 WE'RE SUFFERING FROM THAT TODAY. I THINK -- I THINK THE MOST 15:42:45 IMPORTANT THING IS WE LOST SIGHT OF OUR CUSTOMERS. 15:42:48 AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE EVEN IN THE FLOOR MAT ISSUE. 15:42:52 IN THE VERY BEGINNING BACK IN 2007, WE RECALLED VEHICLES 15:42:57 BECAUSE OF THE ALL WEATHER MAT. THE MAT WAS TOO THICK AND THERE 15:43:01 WAS RISK IT WOULD BIND UP UNDERNEATH THE ACCELERATOR 15:43:06 PEDAL. IT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE MAT 15:43:07 WASN'T PROPERLY PUT DOWN. SO FROM AN ENGINEERING 15:43:12 STANDPOINT, IF THE MAT IS PROPERLY IN PLACE, IT'S NO BIG 15:43:15 PROBLEM. BUT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A 15:43:18 SIMPLE THING LIKE HOW CUSTOMERS USE A FLOOR MAT BECAUSE IN 15:43:23 CLIMATES LIKE THIS, PEOPLE DOUBLE STACK MATS. 15:43:27 THEY PUT THE RUBBER MAT ON TOP OF THE CARPET MAT. 15:43:30 NOT JUST IN OUR CARS BUT OTHERS. WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING 15:43:33 AS SIMPLE AS THAT. >> AND JUST TO GET ONE OTHER 15:43:36 QUESTION IN, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY DISTURBED BY WHAT SOUNDED 15:43:39 LIKE A REAL SNAP DIAGNOSIS. I'M A PHYSICIAN IN THE CASE OF 15:43:43 THE MATS. WHEN WE'RE PRESENTED WITH A 15:43:46 PROBLEM, WE CAN WELCOME DIAGNOSE IT BY LISTENING TO HISTORY BUT 15:43:52 WE ALWAYS LOOK AT EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSE BEFORE WE REALLY 15:43:55 MAKE A DIAGNOSIS AND WE START TO TREAT. 15:43:57 AND, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT HAPPENED HERE. 15:44:04 AND IN YOUR BUSINESS AND MY PROFESSION, LIVES DEPEND ON THE 15:44:07 DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE. AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO 15:44:10 REALLY EXAMINE ALL OF THE POSSIBLE THINGS, RULE OUT FOR 15:44:14 EVERY OTHER POSSIBILITY. CAN YOU ASSURE ME -- I HEAR YOU 15:44:21 SAYING IT'S NOT THAT ELECTRONIC THING. 15:44:22 CAN YOU ASSURE US TODAY THAT NOT ONLY WITH THIS BUT WITH EVERY 15:44:25 COMPLAINT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO A COMPLETE DIAGNOSIS? 15:44:31 >> YES. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE 15:44:34 COMPANY'S PROCESS IS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM ARE BEING EVALUATED. 15:44:38 AND STARTING WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY WHO IS GOING TO 15:44:40 SPEAK TOMORROW TO ONE OF THE COMMITTEES. 15:44:43 HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GLOBAL QUALITY COMMITTEE. 15:44:46 IT'S A BRAND NEW COMMITTEE THAT IS GOING TO LOOK JUST AT QUALITY 15:44:50 AND SAFETY. AND THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES 15:44:51 FROM EACH OF THE LARGE REGIONS AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE ON 15:44:56 THAT. THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT ADVISORY 15:44:57 BOARD THAT WILL REPORT TO THAT. TO LOOK OVER HIS SHOULDER -- 15:45:02 >> WHAT INDEPENDENT ADVISORY BOARD. 15:45:04 WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE PAYING AND STUFF. 15:45:05 HOW DO YOU GET THIS INDEPENDENT -- 15:45:08 >> YOU GO OUT AND HIRE SAFETY AND QUALITY EXPERTS FROM OUTSIDE 15:45:12 OF THE COMPANY TO OVERSEE WHAT'S HAPPENING TO MAKE SURE THAT 15:45:16 WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND THAT'S -- THE NORTH AMERICAN 15:45:22 REGION OF THAT AND THESE COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO BE 15:45:24 ANNOUNCED BY THE END OF MARCH. THEY ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE 15:45:29 FOR AN INDEPENDENT, TOTALLY INDEPENDENT SAFETY TESTING OF 15:45:33 THE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM. >> MY TIME UP IS. 15:45:37 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU. 15:45:41 MISS SUTTON FOR QUESTIONS, PLEASE. 15:45:50 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON 15:45:52 THE POINTS RAISED HERE TODAY DURING YOUR TESTIMONY. 15:45:56 A FEW MOMENTS AGO IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION YOU WERE TALKING 15:46:00 ABOUT THAT WE WELCOME ANYONE WHO CAN FIND THE PROBLEM AND SO THAT 15:46:05 WE CAN FIX IT. SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 15:46:07 IS THAT ACCURATE? >> YES. 15:46:11 >> WHEN YOU SAY WE, WHO DO YOU MEAN WE WELCOME? 15:46:13 >> TOYOTA. >> TOYOTA INTERNATIONAL? 15:46:16 >> YES. TMS/USA IS A DISTRIBUTE YOUR FOR 15:46:21 TOYOTA IN THE UNITED STATES. MY GROUP IS NOT DESIGNED OR 15:46:24 EFRPG NEARED PRODUCTS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT 15:46:26 THAT A LITTLE BIT. BECAUSE YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF 15:46:31 TOYOTA MOTOR SALES IN THE U.S. AS WAS POINTED OUT BY RANKING 15:46:34 MEMBER BARTON. DOES TOYOTA MOTOR SALES MAKE 15:46:37 SAFETY DETERMINATIONS? DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT MAKE SAFETY 15:46:40 DETERMINATIONS? >> NO. 15:46:42 WHAT WE DO IS WE GET FEEDBACK FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 15:46:47 SOURCES. WE GET FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMER 15:46:49 THAT'S CALL IN OR CONTACT US ONLINE. 15:46:51 WE LOOK THROUGH THE INTERNET. WE LOOK AT NHTSA DATA. 15:46:55 WE LOOK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SOURCES. 15:46:58 WE GET REPORTS FROM OUR DEALERS. WE HAVE PRODUCT REPORTS. 15:47:01 ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FROM MY SIDE GETS PUT TOGETHER IN 15:47:05 REPORTS AND THEY GO TO JAPAN TO THE QUALITY SITE. 15:47:10 TO SAY THAT I'M NOT INVOLVED IN QUALITY, I AM FROM AN ANTENNA 15:47:14 STANDPOINT. >> YOU ALSO SAID THAT 15:47:17 COMMUNICATION IS PRETTY ONE WAY WITH RESPECT TO SAFETY AND 15:47:19 REPORTING BACK TO JAPAN BECAUSE YOU TESTIFIED HERE TODAY IN 15:47:23 RELATION TO MR. MARKY'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ALARM THAT'S 15:47:26 WERE GOING OFF IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD AND WE JUST SORT OF 15:47:30 HAD -- WE HAVE A PLEA OF IGNORANCE THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW 15:47:34 HERE. AND IT MIGHT HAVE MADE A 15:47:35 DIFFERENCE IN SOME OF THE ACCIDENTS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN 15:47:39 AVOIDED. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT PERPLEXED BY 15:47:43 THE IDEA, DOES WASHINGTON STAFF, SAFETY STAFF THAT DEALS WITH 15:47:48 NHTSA REPORT TO YOU AS THE HEAD OF SALES? 15:47:50 >> NO. >> OKAY. 15:47:51 >> NO. >> OKAY. 15:47:53 WHO DOES THAT SAFETY STAFF THAT REPORTS TO NHTSA REPORT TO 15:47:57 WITHIN YOUR COMPANY? >> REPORTS TO TMA WASHINGTON, 15:48:02 D.C., OFFICE. >> OKAY. 15:48:10 SO THEY ARE TESTIFYING TOMORROW HE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF TOYOTA 15:48:12 MOTE YAR SALES OF USA BUT PRESIDENT OF TMA. 15:48:15 THAT REPORT IS IN THROUGH HIM, NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON, D.C. 15:48:18 >> SO HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY DECISIONS IN THE USA? 15:48:21 >> NO. >> IT'S STILL IN JAPAN. 15:48:23 >> STILL IN JAPAN. >> OKAY. 15:48:26 WHY WOULD TOYOTA SEND THE HEAD OF SALES TO DISCUSS SAFETY 15:48:30 ISSUES HERE TODAY? >> I WAS INVITED TO ATTEND. 15:48:34 >> OKAY. SO IT WAS A DECISION MADE BY THE 15:48:36 COMMITTEE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE -- 15:48:38 YOU WERE INVITED BY WHO TO ATTEND? 15:48:41 >> THIS COMMITTEE. >> ALL RIGHT. 15:48:44 LET ME ASK YOU THIS. YOU SAID IN YOUR TESTIMONY IN 15:48:49 REEPT MONTHS WE'VE NOT LIVED UP TO THE HIGH STANDARDS OUR 15:48:52 CUSTOMERS AND THE PUBLIC HAVE COME TO EXPECT FROM TOYOTA. 15:48:57 AND WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 15:48:58 AND THERE ARE TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO I THINK THAT WE'VE 15:49:01 ALL EXPRESSED CONCERN FOR, MOST OBVIOUSLY THE CONSUMERS OUT 15:49:07 THERE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST AND FAITH IN -- AND THEIR FAMILIES 15:49:11 IN THE TOYOTA VEHICLES. >> YES. 15:49:12 >> AND, OF COURSE, THE WORKERS. THE WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY WHO 15:49:17 RELY UPON TOYOTA TO MAKE A LIVING AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR 15:49:23 FAMILIES. I GUESS THAT'S WHY I ASK YOU THE 15:49:26 QUESTION ABOUT THE WE. WE'VE ALSO HEARD A LOT OF 15:49:31 CONFUSING TESTIMONY ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL 15:49:35 SYSTEM. SIX YEARS AGO NHTSA COMPILED 15:49:38 DATA SHOWING THAT TOYOTA CAMRYS HAD OVER 400% MORE VEHICLE SPEED 15:49:44 COMPLAINTS THAN THOSE WITH MANUAL CONTROLS. 15:49:48 SO IT'S RATHER DIFFICULT TO -- DO YOU THINK THAT'S AN 15:49:52 ACCEPTABLE SORT OF NUMBER TO SUGGEST THAT THERE ISN'T 15:49:56 SOMETHING TO IT? I MEAN 400% MORE. 15:50:00 >> THERE'S NO QUESTION IT'S A BIG NUMBER. 15:50:02 BUT I THINK, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE COMPLAINTS 15:50:06 ARE SURROUNDING. I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THOSE ARE 15:50:10 SUDDEN ACCELERATION INSTANCES. >> RIGHT. 15:50:13 WELL WHY DON'T WE KNOW ALL OF THAT? 15:50:15 400%. WE MIGHT NOT KNOW MIGHT NOT KNO. 15:50:17 BUT WHEN YOU SAY I DON'T KNOW IF ALL ARE, THAT'S A BIG SAMT, TOO. 15:50:20 WE MUST KNOW MORE THAN WE -- THAN THAT STATEMENT REFLECTS. 15:50:25 >> WELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU AGAIN IF YOU ARE SPEAKING OFF OF THE 15:50:31 NTSA DATABASE, UNLESS THOSE ARE INVESTIGATED, I CAN'T TELL YOU 15:50:34 JUST FROM THE DATABASE EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. 15:50:37 AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET THAT 15:50:42 INFORMATION. QUITE FRANKLY IWOULD LOVE TO BE 15:50:44 ABLE TO GET CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS WITH INSURANCE 15:50:48 COMPANIES AS WELL. WHERE THEY CAN SUPPLY US WITH 15:50:50 THAT KIND OF INFORMATION SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. 15:50:53 >> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE AMERICAN MARKET HAS BEEN VERY, 15:50:57 VERY GOOD TO TOYOTA. A LOT OF MONEY HAS BEEN MADE BY 15:51:03 THE COMPANY. IN DECADES PAST. 15:51:07 WHEN WE READ, I'D LIKE TO SHOW THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT 15:51:11 NOTHING MATTERS MORE TO TOYOTA THAN THE SAFETY AND RELIABILITY 15:51:15 OF THE VEHICLES. WE'RE COMMITTED NOT ONLY TO 15:51:17 FIXING VEHICLES ON THE ROAD AND ENSURING THEY ARE SAFE BUT TO 15:51:21 MAKING OUR NEW VEHICLES BETTER. YOUR TESTIMONY CONTINUES. 15:51:23 WHEN WE READ THAT AND THEN WE HEAR THE TESTIMONY ABOUT THE 15:51:27 SAFETY DECISIONS BEING MADE IN JAPAN, IN A VACUUM, ISOLATING 15:51:31 THOSE WHO ARE SELLING THESE CARS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR 15:51:36 FAMILIES, AND WHO ARE HAVING THE WORKERS AND THE DEALERS SELL 15:51:42 THESE CARS, YOU KNOW, IT BEGS THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY PEOPLE 15:51:49 WOULD BE CONCERNED OF WHERE THE FACTS MATCH UP WITH THE 15:51:54 TESTIMONY. AND I YIELD BACK. 15:51:56 >> NO, I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHY THE PROCESS IS 15:51:59 CHANGING WHERE THERE IS GOING TO BE A PERSON FROM THE UNITED 15:52:04 STATES THAT SITS ON THE DEFECT COMMITTEE IN JAPAN TO BE ABLE TO 15:52:08 MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THAT DECISION, 15:52:15 THERE'S GOING TO BE A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO THEN 15:52:17 APPEAL THAT DECISION. IT'S NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES 15:52:19 BUT FROM AROUND THE GLOBE WILL BE ON THAT. 15:52:21 >> OKAY, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT COMES VERY LATE. 15:52:24 >> YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. 15:52:26 >> WE APPRECIATE THAT THINGS GET FIXED, AND THAT IS THE GOAL THAT 15:52:29 THINGS GET FIXED AND NO MORE, YOU KNOW, LOSS OF LIFE IS 15:52:35 SUFFERED. BUT AGAIN, ONE HAS TO ASK, WOULD 15:52:38 IT HAVE HAPPENED BUT FOR SOME OF THE MISTAKES COMING TO LIGHT AND 15:52:45 I'M GLAD FOR THE CHANGE. I HOPE IT'S ENOUGH. 15:52:51 I YIELD BACK. >> THANK YOU. 15:52:57 >> MISS SCHIAKOWSKY. >> YOUR ASKING US TO BELIEVE 15:53:03 THAT NO ONE AT TOYOTA USA KNEW ABOUT RECALLS IN CANADA? 15:53:10 IT'S JUST STRAINS CREDUALITY TO -- 15:53:13 >> AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY ON THE 2003 SELLECCA, I DON'T KNOW THE 15:53:20 SPECIFICS ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A 15:53:23 VEHICLE RECALLED HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A 15:53:25 CERTAIN FLOOR MAT ISSUE. I JUST DON'T KNOW DETAILS ABOUT 15:53:29 THAT PARTICULAR RECALL. >> ACCEPT THAT YOU GAVE BEFORE 15:53:32 AS A REASON THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT SHARED. 15:53:36 AND IT'S JUST -- IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO IMAGINE THAT 15:53:40 WHETHER IT WAS DELIBERATELY SHARED OR NOT, THAT GIVEN THE 15:53:44 FACT MANY AMERICANS CAN SEE CANADA FROM THEIR HOUSE THAT WE 15:53:50 DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE -- >> AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK 15:53:53 SPECIFICALLY TO THAT EXACT INCIDENCE. 15:53:56 I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS BEHIND WHAT IT WAS RECALLED FOR. 15:54:01 >> IN 2008, A WOMAN NAMED GUADALUPE ALBERTO WAS KILLED 15:54:05 WHEN HER 2005 CAMRY SUDDENLY ACCELERATED, JUMPED A CURB AND 15:54:10 STRUCK A TREE. HER CAR DIDN'T EVEN HAVE FLOOR 15:54:14 MATS AT THE TIME. SO WHY WASN'T THIS INCIDENT 15:54:17 FURTHER INVESTIGATED THEN? IT SAYS -- I MEAN, WE KNOW AS 15:54:22 RECENTLY AS NOVEMBER, OR YOU SAY IN NOVEMBER OF 2009, TOYOTA, OR 15:54:29 AT LEAST UP UNTIL THEN, WAS STILL CLAIMING THAT FLOOR MATS 15:54:33 WERE THE ONLY PROBLEM. >> AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE 15:54:38 SPECIFICS OF THAT PARTICULAR ACCIDENT. 15:54:41 I CAN LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU. >> THAT WOULD BE FINE. 15:54:49 >> BUT THE FLOOR MAT ISSUE CAME AROUND EARLIER THAN THAT. 15:54:53 THE ISSUE IN NOVEMBER WAS AS WE GOT INTO THE ISSUE OF THE STICKY 15:54:56 PEDAL. >> RIGHT. BUT HERE WAS A 2008 ACCIDENT. 15:54:59 SHE DIDN'T HAVE A FLOOR MAT. BUT, ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL 15:55:03 IN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE BUSINESS OURSELVES. 15:55:06 >> RIGHT. >> WE HAVE CONSTITUENT SERVICE 15:55:08 PERSONNEL IN OUR OFFICES. WE TAKE IT VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. 15:55:13 I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU APOLOGIZED TO CUSTOMERS FOR THE 15:55:18 PROBLEMS WITH TOYOTAS. DID YOU APOLOGIZE TO CUSTOMERS 15:55:22 WHO WERE TREATED LIKE THEY WERE CRAZY WHEN THEY MADE THESE 15:55:27 COMPLAINTS? DID YOU APOLOGIZE TO THE SMITHS? 15:55:29 >> I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE SMITHS, BUT I'M GOING TO. 15:55:32 AGAIN IT WAS EMBARRASSING TO HEAR WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. 15:55:35 I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THE SITUATION. 15:55:39 BUT IT'S JUST TO HEAR THAT, ESPECIALLY ON THE LEXUS SIDE OF 15:55:44 THE BUSINESS, THAT'S A VERY UNUSUAL WAY FOR BUSINESS TO BE 15:55:47 DONE. >> IT'S A VERY UNUSUAL WAY. 15:55:48 LET ME QUOTE TO YOU FROM A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO A 15:55:56 CUSTOMER. 2005 TOYOTA TACOMA DRIVER TOLD 15:56:00 YOUR COMPANY THAT HIS TRUCK ACCELERATED BY ITSELF, DESPITE 15:56:04 STEPPING ON THE BRAKES, SLAMMED INTO FOUR PARKED CARS. 15:56:07 HERE WAS THE ANSWER. THE THROTTLE WAS INSPECTED AND 15:56:10 MOVED FREELY WITHOUT ANY BINDING AND WAS FOUND TO OPERATE AS 15:56:13 DESIGNED. THE BRAKES WILL ALWAYS OVERRIDE 15:56:15 THE ACCELERATOR, WHICH MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TRUE AT THE TIME. 15:56:23 BESIDES, YOU'RE MAKING THAT CHANGE. 15:56:24 IN ORDER FOR THIS TOX HAVE HAPPENED AS REPORTED, TWO 15:56:27 TOTALLY SEPARATE SYSTEMS, THE BRAKES AND THE THROTTLE WOULD 15:56:30 HAVE TO FAIL AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME. 15:56:33 THIS IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. AND THERE'S -- THAT PHRASE, THAT 15:56:39 SENTENCE, THIS IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE, SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN 15:56:43 REPEATED OVER AND OVER TO YOUR CUSTOMERS. 15:56:49 YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF SALES. IS THIS ANY WAY TO DEAL WITH 15:56:53 CUSTOMERS, JUST TO TELL THEM ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE? 15:56:55 >> NO, IT'S NOT. AND I HAVE TALKED TO OUR GROUP 15:57:01 THAT I'M GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN EVERY EVENT OF UNINTENDED 15:57:06 ACCELERATION SO THAT I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. 15:57:09 SO YOU KNOW, JUST OVERALL CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS THAT COME 15:57:13 IN, I GET PROBABLY 20 OR 25 COMPLAINTS A WEEK. 15:57:18 EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMPLAINTS, I HAVE TO RECEIVE A 15:57:22 BUCK SLIP BACK TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ISSUE WAS, WHAT THE 15:57:26 SOLUTION WAS AND WHETHER THE CUSTOMER IS SAEFTD OR NOT. 15:57:30 AND I -- >> YOU ALSO REVIEW -- I REVIEW 15:57:33 LETTERS THAT GO OUT TO MY CONSTITUENTS. 15:57:37 DO YOU REVIEW -- DOES SOMEONE IN AUTHORITY REVIEW LETTERS THAT 15:57:42 ARE SENT OUT SO THAT THE CREDIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER IS 15:57:48 NOT ONLY QUESTIONED BUT JUST NEGATED? 15:57:51 >> I PERSONALLY DO NOT. I WILL FIND OUT. 15:57:55 IS THAT A RECENT LETTER? >> WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THREE 15:58:00 ANSWERS THAT USE THE SAME PHRASE ABOUT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. 15:58:05 SO I DON'T KNOW THE DATE. I'M SURE OUR STAFF HAS THOSE 15:58:09 LETTERS AND DATES ON THE LETTERS. 15:58:13 AND MY TIME IS UP, BUT I HOPE YOU'LL ALSO MAKE SURE. 15:58:22 THEY BECOME PART OF THE CALCULATION OF HOW YOU RESPOND. 15:58:25 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 15:58:28 >> MR. BRADY FOR QUESTIONS. >> I WANT TO BEGIN BY COMMENDING 15:58:32 YOU FOR SHARING YOUR PERSONAL STORY OF LOSS WITH THE COMMITTEE 15:58:35 HERE TODAY. AND THAT TAKES GREAT COURAGE. 15:58:38 I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE THAT STORY WITH THE 15:58:41 DECISIONMAKERS IN JAPAN WHO ARE MAKING THE KEY DECISIONS ON 15:58:44 PRODUCT DEFECTS, PRODUCT RECALLS, PRODUCT RETROFITS AND 15:58:48 FAILURE ANALYSIS BECAUSE I THINK THEY NEED TO HEAR THAT STORY 15:58:52 FROM YOU. >> THANK YOU. 15:58:53 >> I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMMENDING THE DEALERS IN 15:58:56 THIS COUNTRY WHO HAVE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB RESPONDING TO 15:58:59 YOUR RECALLS AND PERFORMING RETROFITS AND TYING UP THEIR

[VOTE 2008: GOP Presidential Debate: 2100 - 2200] [Republican Presidential Debate: 2100 - 2200] [SIMI VALLEY, CA USA] Ten Republican candidates appear at a debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. Debating are: Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, Tom Tancredo, and James Gilmore. 21:00:00 REAGAN THE ALTERNATIVES WHICH ARE ADULT STEM CELLS. 21:00:01 >> GOVERNOR THOMPSON. >> THERE IS SO MUCH RESEARCH 21:00:06 GOING ON, YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT YES OR NO. 21:00:08 THERE IS RESEARCH GOING ON IN MADISON, WISCONSIN, THAT IS 21:00:12 GOING TO LOU FOR ADULT STEM CELLS WHICH WILL HAVE THE SAME 21:00:17 CHARACTERISTICS OF OTHERS SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO KILL AN 21:00:23 EMBOROUGHO. >> I WANT TO THANK MRS. REAGAN 21:00:25 FOR THE MANY KINDNESSES EXTENDED TO MY FELLOW PRISONERS 21:00:31 OF WAR WHEN WE CAME HOME TO THIS WONDERFUL STATE. 21:00:33 WE NEED TO FUND THIS. THIS IS A TOUGH ISSUE FOR THOSE 21:00:36 OF US IN THE PRO LIFE COMMUNITY. 21:00:38 I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT THESE STEM CELLS ARE GOING TO BE 21:00:42 DISCARDED OR FROZEN. WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO 21:00:46 RELIEVE HUMAN SUFFERING. IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE. 21:00:49 >> THAT'S A YES. >> YES OR NOR? 21:00:51 >> PROGRAMS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. 21:00:55 THE TROUBLE WITH THIS, ISSUES LIKE THIS IN WASHINGTON WE 21:01:00 EITHER PROHIBIT OR SUB SI DISEASE IT AND THE MARKETS AND 21:01:03 STATES SHOULD DEAL WITH IT. >> AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT 21:01:06 CREATING LIFE IN ORDER TO DESTROY. 21:01:08 WE'RE NOT HAVING HUMAN CLONING AND WE LIMIT IT TO THAT AND 21:01:11 THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO USE FEDERAL FUNDS IN THOSE 21:01:15 SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS SO I WOULD SUPPORT 21:01:17 IT WITH THOSE ELIMINATIONS LIKE THE BILL IN CONGRESS. 21:01:21 >> THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS GOING INTO THIS 21:01:23 RESEARCH RIGHT NOW, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ME TAKING MONEY FROM 21:01:27 TAXPAYERS IN THE UNITED STATES TO FUND IT. 21:01:32 >> GOVERNOR ROMNEY A YEAR AGO IT SEEMED LIKE YOU COULDN'T 21:01:36 WAIT TO TELL ABOUT YOUR HEALTH CARE EXPERIMENT IN 21:01:39 MASSACHUSETTS. IT'S BEEN CRITICIZED AS 21:01:42 SOMETHING HILLARY CLINTON COULD BE DEVISED. 21:01:43 YOU HARDLY MENTION IT ON YOUR WEBSITE. 21:01:46 WHAT'S CHANGED? >> I LOVE IT. 21:01:48 IT'S A FABULOUS PROGRAM. I'M DELIGHTED THAT IN OUR STATE 21:01:53 WE WORKED TOGETHER ACROSS THE AISLE TO FIND A WAY TO GET 21:01:55 HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, IT'S AFFORDABLE AND 21:01:59 PORTABLE. THERE IS SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T 21:02:00 LIKE IT. BUT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO VOTE, 21:02:03 WE WON 198-2. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION WORKED 21:02:06 ON IT WITH US. WE HAD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF 21:02:08 THE AISLE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WONDER 21:02:10 ABOUT IT. SENATOR KENNEDY AT THE SIGNING 21:02:12 OF THE BILL, WE WERE ALL THERE TOGETHER, IF YOU GOT MITT 21:02:16 ROMNEY AND TED KENNEDY AGREEING, WE DIDN'T READ IT. 21:02:22 BUT I HELPED RIGHT IT. INSTEAD GET THE MARKET TO DO 21:02:30 ITS JOB. LET PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH CARE 21:02:32 THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, GET THE MARKET TO DO ITS JOB. 21:02:34 LET PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE POLICIES IN THE 21:02:37 PRIVATE SECTOR. WE DIDN'T EXPAND GOVERNMENT 21:02:40 PROGRAMS, WE DIDN'T RAISE TAXES. 21:02:42 THERE WAS NO GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 21:02:44 THE MARKET CAN WORK TO SOLVE OUR HEALTH CARE NEEDS AND 21:02:46 THAT'S THE GREAT EXCITING NEWS AND 27 OTHER STATES ARE WORKING 21:02:49 ON HEALTH CARE REFORM RIGHT NOW. 21:02:51 IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ENTIRE 21:02:55 COUNTRY. >> JOHN. 21:02:56 >> SENATOR MCCAIN, SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN HIT PRETTY 21:03:00 HARD ON FLIP-FLOPS BUT YOU NOW SUPPORT EXTENDING THE TAX CUTS 21:03:05 WHICH YOU ORIGINALLY VOTED AGAINST THEM. 21:03:07 THAT MAKES NO SENSE? >> IN THE PROPOSAL I HAD THERE 21:03:11 WERE SIGNIFICANT TAX CUTS AND THERE WAS NO PROVISION TO START 21:03:15 ADDRESSING SOCIAL SECURITY OR A CONTINGENCY. 21:03:19 WE HAD THAT CALLED THE IRAQ WAR AND WE HAD NO RESTRAINT ON 21:03:22 SPENDING AND SPENDING GOT COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. 21:03:25 YES, THESE TAX CUTS NEED TO BE MADE PERMANENT. 21:03:29 OTHERWISE THEY'LL HAVE THE AFFECT OF A TAX INCREASE. 21:03:31 BUT SPENDING IS DESTROYING THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY AND 21:03:34 WE'VE GOT TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL AND AS I STARTED TO SAY 21:03:38 BEFORE, THE FIRST PORK BARREL EARMARKED BILL THAT CROSSES MY 21:03:42 DESK AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'M GOING TO VETO IT 21:03:44 AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT FAMOUS. 21:03:46 >> LET'S START WITH AN ENJOYABLE DOWN THE LINE. 21:03:50 I WANT EACH CANDIDATE TO MENTION A TAX HE'D LIKE TO CUT 21:03:54 IN ADDITION TO THE BUSH TAX CUTS KEEPING THEM IN EFFECT. 21:03:56 GOVERNOR. >> I'D LIKE MIDDLE INCOME 21:03:59 AMERICANS TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THEIR MONEY AND NOT HAVE TO PAY 21:04:02 ANY TAX AT ALL ON INTEREST, DIVIDENDS, OR CAPITAL GAINS AND 21:04:06 BY THE WAY -- >> ZERO RATE. 21:04:09 >> FOR MIDDLE INCOME AMERICANS. WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HOW 21:04:13 ANXIOUS WE ARE TO VETO OVERSPENDING. 21:04:15 I WAS A GOVERNOR. I'VE DONE IT HUNDREDS OF TIMES. 21:04:17 I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON WASHINGTON'S BUDGET. 21:04:21 >> I PUT FORWARD AN ALTERNATIVE FLAT TAX AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO 21:04:25 CHOOSE BETWEEN THE CURRENT TAX CODE SYSTEM WHICH DOESN'T WORK 21:04:28 WHICH OUGHT TO BE TAKEN BEHIND THE BARN AND KILLED WITH A DULL 21:04:31 AX AND LET THEM CHOOSE. >> GOVERNOR, A TAX YOU WOULD 21:04:35 LIKE TO CUT. >> I'VE BEEN A GOVERNOR OF 21:04:40 VIRGINIA, I RAN ON ELIMINATE AGE CAR TAX IN VIRGINIA, I 21:04:44 RECEIVED OPPOSITION. WE ELIMINATED THAT CAR TAX. 21:04:47 NOW THE QUESTION IS WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO DO WHAT THEY 21:04:50 SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO? WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN IS WHERE 21:04:54 YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND I'VE LIVED UP TO MY WORD AND THE 21:04:57 ANSWER IS THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX WHICH IS CONTINUING 21:05:00 TO DRIVE THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS UP. 21:05:03 >> I CUT TAXES 94 TIMES AS GOVERNOR BUT TINKERING WITH IT 21:05:07 DOESN'T WORK. I WOULD OVERHAUL IT. 21:05:10 I WOULD MEET FOR THE FLAT TAX. WE GET RID OF THE I.R.S. AND 21:05:16 ALL CAPITAL GAINS, INCOME, CORPORATE AND WE'D HAVE A 21:05:19 CONSUMPTION TAX. THE FAIR TAX PROPOSAL, I 21:05:21 BELIEVE, OFFERS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL LEVELS OF 21:05:25 AMERICANS. >> CONGRESSMAN, YOUR TURN. 21:05:26 >> ABSOLUTELY, CHRIS, YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW OUR MANUFACTURERS ARE 21:05:30 GETTING KILLED. WE'RE SEEING MANUFACTURING MOVE 21:05:34 OFFSHORE BECAUSE OF A TRADE DEAL THAT WE SIGNED WITH THE 21:05:37 REST OF THE WORLD ALLOWS ALL OF OUR EXPORTS TO BE TAXED TWICE 21:05:40 WHILE THEIR EXPORTS TO US ARE NOT TAXED AT ALL. 21:05:43 THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN EVEN COME CLOSE TO LEVELING THAT 21:05:47 PLAYING FIELD IS TO ELIMINATE MANUFACTURING TAXES. 21:05:50 SO ELIMINATE ALL TAXES ON AMERICANS WHO WILL STAY IN THE 21:05:54 UNITED STATES AND MAKE PRODUCTS AND HIRE AMERICAN WORKERS. 21:05:57 >> GOVERNOR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 21:05:59 I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS GOVERNOR OF 21:06:03 WISCONSIN AND VETOED 1,900 ITEMS, 1,900 TIMES REDUCED 21:06:08 TAXES 16.4 BILLION, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE'VE GOT IN AMERICA IS 21:06:14 THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX THAT'S BRINGING MORE MIDDLE 21:06:17 INCOME IN. LET'S PUT IT IN AND HAVE THE 21:06:19 PEOPLE HAVE A FLAT TAX AND HAVE THE OPTION OF PAYING WHICHEVER 21:06:22 IS LEAST. >> SENATOR MCCAIN. 21:06:24 >> I GIVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THE LINE-ITEM 21:06:27 VETO ON THESE BILLS AS WELL AS SPENDING BILLS. 21:06:30 THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX IS OBVIOUSLY EATING AMERICANS 21:06:33 ALIVE AND IT'S GOT TO BE REPEELED. 21:06:36 ANOTHER ONE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS A TAX CREDIT FOR 21:06:40 PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE. 21:06:43 LOW INCOME AMERICANS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE WHICH IS 21:06:46 AN AMAZING AND DIFFICULT PROBLEM TODAY AND SIMPLER 21:06:50 FLATTER FAIR TAX SO AMERICANS DON'T HAVE TO SPENT $140 21:06:55 BILLION AS THEY JUST DID LAST APRIL TO PREPARE THEIR TAX 21:07:00 RETURNS. >> WELL, IN MY FIRST WEEK, I 21:07:01 ALREADY GOT RID OF THE INCOME TAX. 21:07:04 MY SECOND WEEK, I WOULD GET RID OF THE INFLATION TAX, A TAX 21:07:07 THAT NOBODY TALKS ABOUT. WE LIVE WAY BEYOND OUR MEANS 21:07:10 WITH A FOREIGN POLICY WE CAN'T AFFORD AND A SYSTEM THAT WE 21:07:14 HAVE ENCOURAGED. WE PRINT MONEY FOR IT. 21:07:16 THE VALUE OF THE MONEY GOES DOWN AND POOR PEOPLE PAY HIGHER 21:07:20 PRICES. THAT IS A TAX. 21:07:21 THAT'S A TRANSFER OF WEALTH OF THE POOR TO WALL STREET. 21:07:27 THE INFLATION IS EATING AWAY AT THE MIDDLE CLASS OF THIS 21:07:30 COUNTRY. WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE 21:07:32 INFLATION TAX WITH SOUND MONEY. >> MAYOR. 21:07:34 >> WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE A.M.T., THAT HAS TO BE REDUCED. 21:07:38 WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE DEATH TAX WHICH IS GOING TO GO TO 21:07:42 ZERO IN 2010 WHICH IS GOING TO CREATE AN INCENTIVE, I CAN'T 21:07:46 IMAGINE WHAT KIND IT'S GOING TO CREATE. 21:07:48 IT'S GOING TO ZEROO AND 2011 IT'S GOING TO 55% AND THE TAX 21:07:53 CUTS THAT WENT INTO EFFECT REMAINS. 21:07:56 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAX INCREASES IN 21:07:58 HISTORY IN 2011. I WOULD LOOK TO TRY TO 21:08:04 REGULARIZE THE RATES AND LOOK FOR SOME REDUCTION BEYOND WHAT 21:08:08 WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. >> FOR ALL OF THE REASONS 21:08:11 MENTIONED, I SUPPORT THE FAIR TAX, IT'S ACCOMPANIED WITH THE 21:08:15 REPEAL OF THE 16TH AMENDMENT. WE END UP WITH A CONSUMPTION 21:08:19 TAX AND AN INCOME TAX AND ALL THIS TALK ABOUT VETOING 21:08:23 SPENDING BILLS AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEM, LET 21:08:26 ME TELL YOU, YOU CAN VETO ALL OF THE SPENDING BILLS YOU WANT. 21:08:30 YOU WILL NOT TOUCH THE DEFICIT UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY DEAL WITH 21:08:33 THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEM IN MANDATORY SPENDING. 21:08:35 THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS. YOU CAN VETO EVERY ONE OF THE 21:08:38 BILLS THAT COME TO YOU AS DISCRETIONARY FUNDING INCLUDING 21:08:43 THE MILITARY. IT IS IN FACT MANDATORY 21:08:45 SPENDING THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH OR FORGET THE IDEA OF 21:08:50 DEFICIT SPENDING. >> SENATOR MCCAIN, YOU SAID YOU 21:08:53 PLAN TO POISON A DEMOCRAT TO THE MAJOR CABINET POINT. 21:08:59 TELL US NAMES. YOU GIVE BONUS POINTS IF YOU 21:09:04 SAY OTHER THAN JOE LIEBERMAN. >> THERE MUST BE OTHERS. 21:09:06 >> THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE QUALIFIED. 21:09:09 THERE ARE MANY AMERICANS WHO ARE INDEPENDENTS OR DEMOCRATS 21:09:13 OR REPUBLICANS, WHATEVER THEY ARE WHO ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED 21:09:16 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'D GO TO CORPORATE AMERICA. 21:09:19 I'D GO TO SILICON VALLEY AND I'D GO TO JOHN WHO HAS MADE HIS 21:09:26 MONEY, COME AND SERVE OUR COUNTRY. 21:09:29 I DON'T CARE IF THESE PEOPLE WITH THIS GREAT TALENT THAT 21:09:33 HAVE MADE THE PEOPLE A LEADER, I GO TO THESE PEOPLE NOW COME 21:09:36 AND SERVE YOUR COUNTRY AND MY FIRST PRIORITY WOULD BE THEIR 21:09:40 TALENTS AND WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE RATHER THAN WHAT 21:09:43 THEIR PARTY IDENTIFICATION IS. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER MORE. 21:09:47 I KNOW HOW TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE TO THE DEMOCRATS AND THEY 21:09:50 KNOW HOW TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE FOR ME. 21:09:52 I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME. 21:09:54 >> TIME FOR OUR FINAL INTERACTIVE SEGMENT OF THE 21:09:56 PROGRAM AND THE DEBATE. JIM VANDEHEI. 21:10:00 >> CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, RYAN FROM LOS ANGELES WANTS YOU TO 21:10:03 NAME ONE THING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES REALLY WELL AND 21:10:05 ONE THING THAT IT DOES POORLY. >> REALLY WELL, PRECISION 21:10:12 MUNITIONS ON THE SAFE HOUSE. REALLY POORLY. 21:10:15 SECURE THE BORDER. THE BORDER IS 2,000 MILES OF A 21:10:19 VERY POROUS AREA WHERE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME 21:10:22 ACROSS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND LAST YEAR WE HAD 155,000 FOLKS 21:10:27 WHO CAME ACROSS FROM MEXICO WHO WERE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES IN 21:10:31 THE WORLD, SOME FROM CHINA, SOME FROM IRAN, WE HAVE TO 21:10:35 SECURE THE BORDER. THAT'S THE BIGGEST FAILURE OF 21:10:38 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> SENATOR MCCAIN, THIS COMES 21:10:41 FROM A POLITICO.COM READER AND WAS AMONG THE TOP VOTE GETTERS. 21:10:45 THEY WANT A YES OR NO. DO YOU BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION? 21:10:49 >> YES. >> I'M CURIOUS, IS THERE 21:10:51 ANYBODY ON THE STAGE THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION? 21:10:56 >> MAY I JUST ADD TO THAT, I BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION BUT I ALSO 21:11:00 BELIEVE WHEN I HIKE THE GRAND CANYON AND SEE A SUNSET THAT 21:11:04 THE HAND OF GOD IS THERE ALSO. >> GOVERNOR ROMNEY, ROBERT FROM 21:11:10 MARYLAND WANTS TO KNOW WHICH CABINET OFFICIAL WOULD BE AT 21:11:13 THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THOSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO CARRY INTO 21:11:15 YOUR ADMINISTRATION IF YOU'RE ELECTED? 21:11:17 >> WELL MY GUESS IT WOULD BE AN ENTIRELY NEW TEAM. 21:11:20 YOU WANT TO BUILD A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT 21:11:23 THE FUTURE AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TO SEE THAT WE STRENGTHEN 21:11:28 OUR MILITARY, THE ECONOMY AND THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 21:11:31 THAT'S THE HEART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE AMERICAN 21:11:35 FAMILY. THE FAMILY IS SEEING AN 21:11:36 EXPLOSION IN OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS. 21:11:38 WE HAVE GREAT SINGLE MOMS DOING THEIR BEST BUT WE HAVE TO 21:11:41 ENCOURAGE MOM'S AND DADS BECAUSE THE CRITICAL WORK FOR 21:11:44 THE FUTURE OF MARK IS THE WORK THAT GOES ON IN THE FOUR WALLS 21:11:48 OF THE HOME. WE HAVE TO HELP THE FAMILY AND 21:11:51 GET MORE MARGESE BEFORE BABIES. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, THIS COMES 21:11:55 FROM ERIC TAYLOR FROM CALIFORNIA, HE WANTS TO KNOW 21:11:59 WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SUNNI AND SHI'IA MUST LEM. 21:12:03 >> THE DIFFERENCE IS DESCENDANT OF HOMEDE. 21:12:10 THEY BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE SELECTED AND THE SUNNIS BELIEVE 21:12:15 IT SHOULD BE DID I DESCENT. THERE WAS A SLAUGHTER OF 21:12:20 SHIITES IN THE EARLY PART OF THE HISTORY OF ISLAM AND IT IS 21:12:27 FORTUNATE. >> GOVERNOR GILMORE A 21:12:29 POLITICO.COM READER SAYS YOU CLAIM TO BE THE ONLY REAL 21:12:31 CONSERVATIVE IN THIS RACE. THEY WANT TO YOU EXPLAIN WHY 21:12:34 NONE OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES DESERVE THE LABEL THEMSELVES AS 21:12:37 I TRUE CONSERVATIVE? >> I'VE NOT SAID I'M THE ONLY 21:12:40 CONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE. I AM A CONSISTENT SEVERT, THE 21:12:44 ONE THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON. SOMEONE ISN'T GOING TO SAY ONE 21:12:48 THING ONE YEAR AND ANOTHER THING ANOTHER YEAR AND FLIP AND 21:12:52 FLOP AND CHANGE AROUND. I RAN AS A CONSERVATIVE. 21:12:54 I GONCHEDE AS A CONSERVATIVE. I WAS AN ALTERNATIVE DELEGATE 21:12:57 FOR RONALD REAGAN TO THE KANSAS CITY CONVENTION BACK IN 1976 SO 21:13:02 I'VE BEEN CONSISTENT ALL THROUGHOUT AND I'M SOMEONE THAT 21:13:05 PEOPLE CAN COUNT ON AS A CONSERVATIVE. 21:13:07 >> CONGRESSMAN PAUL, KERRY FROM CONNECTICUT ASKS DO YOU TRUST 21:13:14 THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA? >> SOME OF THEM. 21:13:16 BUT I TRUST THE INTERNET A LOT MORE AND I TRUST THE FREEDOM OF 21:13:22 EXPRESSION AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD NEVER INTERFERE WITH THE 21:13:25 INTERNET. THAT'S WHY I'VE NEVER VOTED TO 21:13:28 REGULATE THE INTERNET EVEN WHEN THERE IS THE TEMPTATION TO PUT 21:13:31 BAD THINGS ON THE INTERNET, REGULATION OF BAD AND GOOD ON 21:13:34 THE INTERNET SHOULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. 21:13:36 BUT THERE IS EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH 21:13:39 FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. 21:13:41 THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. AND WHETHER OR NOT WE TRUST THE 21:13:43 MAINSTREAM OR NOT, I THINK YOU PICK OR CHOOSE. 21:13:46 THERE ARE SOME FRIENDS AND SOME AREN'T SO FRIENDLY. 21:13:50 >> SENATOR BROWNBACK, A READER WANTS TO KNOW IF YOUR PERSONAL 21:13:55 RELIGIOUS BELIEFS INFLUENCE YOUR FOREIGN POLICY THINKING? 21:13:58 >> I THINK PERSONAL BELIEFS OF EVERYONE SHAPE EVERYONE. 21:14:02 WE HAVE VALUES AND IT'S TAKEN IN AND TAKEN FORWARD. 21:14:05 I'VE SERVED ON THE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS 21:14:07 COMMITTEE, I'VE WORKED ON THESE ISSUES. 21:14:09 I'VE CARRIED BILLS CONCERNING SUDAN AND CONGO AND NORTH KOREA 21:14:14 AND IRAN AND IRAQ. I WOULDN'T SAY IT DOMINATES IT 21:14:18 BUT I WOULD SAY IT INFLUENCES IT AS IT DOES FOR EVERYONE AND 21:14:21 I'VE GOT A CONSISTENT RECORD HERE OF AN AGGRESSIVE, CLEAR, 21:14:26 COMPASSION NATE FOREIGN POLICY THAT I THINK IS KEY. 21:14:28 IT'S GOING TO BE KEY FOR A FUTURE PRESIDENT AND MY 21:14:31 PRESIDENCY WILL HAVE A STRONG AGGRESSIVE FOREIGN POLICY. 21:14:34 >> MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER TO BE YOUR MOST 21:14:40 SIGNIFICANT WEAKNESS AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENT OF 21:14:42 THE UNITED STATES? >> I DON'T KNOW. 21:14:50 I THINK MY STRENGTHS OUTWEIGH MY WEAKNESSES, I HAVE PLENTY OF 21:14:53 WEAK NOTICED AND I WORK ON THEM BUT I THINK I'M A PERSON WHO IS 21:14:57 A OPTIMIST I LOOK AT THE HALF FULL GLASS RATHER THAN THE HALF 21:15:01 EMPTY GLASS. THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD TURN 21:15:03 AROUND THE CITY OF NEW YORK CITY THAT WAS CONSIDERED THE 21:15:06 CRIME CAPITAL OF AMERICA IS TRYING TO BRING IN THAT RONALD 21:15:11 REAGAN OPTIMISM AND LOOKED TO TRY TO CREATE RESULTS THAT 21:15:13 PEOPLE THOUGHT WERE IMPOSSIBLE AND WE DID. 21:15:17 >> SENATOR BRONBACK DO YOU FIND ANY FOULTS IN MAYOR GIULIANI? 21:15:22 I SAW YOU LOOK AT HIM WAITING FOR HIM TO SAY SOMETHING? 21:15:26 >> NO, I DON'T. I THINK THE AUDIENCE WILL SEE 21:15:30 THIS IS A SET OF QUALITY CANDIDATES. 21:15:32 THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS IS WE'VE GOT A CHANCE TO DEBATE 21:15:34 IDEAS. AND WE WENT AS A PARTY WHEN WE 21:15:36 RUN ON IDEAS, BIG IDEAS AND PRINCIPALS AND YOU'RE SEEING 21:15:41 THESE ARTICULATED HERE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO WIN 21:15:43 IN 2008. IT'S ON PRINCIPALS AND IDEAS 21:15:45 AND BIG IDEAS HOW WE LEAD. >> THANK YOU. 21:15:48 GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, THIS QUESTION COMES FROM A READER IN 21:15:50 NEW YORK. IN LIGHT OF THE SCANDALS 21:15:53 PLAGUING THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND ITS ALLIES 21:15:55 INVOLVING CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM, WHICH MISTAKES HAVE 21:15:58 YOU LEARNED NOT TO REPEAT? NO MOST IMPORTANT THING A 21:16:03 PRESIDENT NEEDS TO DO IS MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING 21:16:05 TO CONTINUE TO SEE JOBS SHIPPED OVERSEAS, JOBS THAT ARE LOST BY 21:16:10 AMERICAN WORKERS, MANY IN THEIR 50'S WHO HAVE WORKED TO MAKE A 21:16:14 COMPANY RICH AND THEN WATCH AS A C.E.O. TAKES $100 MILLION 21:16:19 BONUS TO JETTISON THOSE AMERICAN JOBS SOMEWHERE ELSE 21:16:24 AND THE WORKER NOT ONLY LOSES HIS JOB BUT HIS PENSION. 21:16:27 THAT'S CRIMINAL. IT'S WRONG, AND IF REPUBLICANS 21:16:29 DON'T STOP IT, WE DON'T DESERVE TO WIN IN 2008. 21:16:34 >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, THIS READER REQUESTS A YES OR NO 21:16:38 ANSWER. WILL YOU WORK TO PROTECT 21:16:40 WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN FAIR WAGES AND REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE? 21:16:44 >> I WILL WORK TO PROTECT WOMEN'S RIGHTS. 21:16:48 THE REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE PART OF THAT IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY 21:16:51 IS IN REFERENCE TO ABORTION, THE RIGHT TO KILL ANOTHER 21:16:55 PERSON IS NOT A RIGHT THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH AND SUPPORT. 21:17:00 >> GOVERNOR THOMPSON, HOW MANY AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAVE LOST 21:17:07 THEIR LIVES IN THE IRAQ WAR AND HOW MANY HAVE BEEN INJURED TO 21:17:11 DATE? >> THERE HAS BEEN OVER 3,000 21:17:12 WHO HAVE LOST AND SEVERAL THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN INJURED AND 21:17:16 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE 21:17:19 POSSIBLY CAN TO GIVE OUR TROOPS THE NECESSARY DOLLARS, THE 21:17:23 RESOURCES, THE WEAPONS, AND THE ARMED FORCES IN ORDER TO 21:17:26 PROTECT THEMSELVES. IT'S A BOND THAT EVERY AMERICAN 21:17:29 HAS WITH OUR ARMED FORCES. ANYTIME AN AROUND SOLDIER IS IN 21:17:34 HARM'S WAY WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING TO PROTECT THEM. 21:17:38 >> WE'RE AT THE LAST ROUND. IT'S 30-SECOND RESPONSES. 21:17:42 START WITH MAYOR GIULIANI. SOMETHING WE COME OUT FOR, I 21:17:44 WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN AND DEFEND IT. 21:17:47 A NATIONAL TAMPER PROOF I.D. CARD. 21:17:50 >> THAT'S CRITICAL TO HAVING IMMIGRATION SECURITY. 21:17:53 EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO COMES IN SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED SHOULD 21:17:56 BE IN A DATABASE BASE, I PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST 21:18:00 EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH SECURITY. 21:18:01 I HAD TO TAKE A CITY THAT HAD A LOT CRIME AND REDUCE IT. 21:18:06 SO THE VERY BEST WAY TO SENSIBLY CREATE SECURITY IS TO 21:18:12 HAVE A TAMPER PROOF CARD AND A DATABASE AND BACK UP FROM 21:18:16 THERE. HOW DO WE GET THERE THAT WOULD 21:18:19 HAVE A TECHNOLOGICAL FENCE, HAVING PEOPLE COMING FORWARD 21:18:23 WHO ARE PAYING TAXES OR WANT TO PAY TAXES. 21:18:26 GOD BLESS THEM. >> I HAD THE OCCASION FOLLOWING 21:18:33 THE GREAT DISASTER OF 9/11 TO HELP ORGANIZE THE WINTERER 21:18:38 GAMES BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN SLARKS SALT LAKE CITY AND BRING 21:18:46 LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, COORDINATE THEM IN A 21:18:48 WAY THAT WE COULD COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. 21:18:51 AS WE DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION HAVING A NATIONAL SPECIAL CARD 21:18:54 THAT INDICATES A PERSON'S NAME, DATE, BIRTH DATE, BUY GRAPHIC 21:18:59 INFORMATION AND AN INDICATION OF THEIR WORK STATUS WILL TELL 21:19:04 US THAT INFORMATION. >> IS SOMEONE AGAINST THIS ON 21:19:08 GROUNDS? >> I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE 21:19:09 WAY TO GO AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THIS WAY. 21:19:13 I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE IMMIGRATION ISSUES. 21:19:15 WE NEED TO SECURE THE BORDER WITH A FENCE AND THEN 21:19:18 INTERIORWISE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOCIAL SECURITY 21:19:22 NUMBER MEANS SOMETHING. >> HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A 21:19:25 NATIONAL I.D. CARD IF IT WORKS? >> WE DON'T NEED A NEW SYSTEM 21:19:29 OR I.D. CARD. >> SENATOR MCCAIN ARE YOU FOR 21:19:32 TAMPER PROOF I.D. CARDS? >> THAT'S ONE OF THE 21:19:37 RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION. 21:19:38 AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WORK, THEY NEED A DOCUMENT THAT IS 21:19:41 TAMPER PROOF AND ANY EMPLOYER WHO EMPLOYEES SOMEBODY ELSE 21:19:47 WITH A FALSE CARD OR CERTIFICATE SHOULD BE 21:19:49 PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. 21:19:52 >> DR. PAUL. >> I'M OPPOSED TO IT. 21:19:54 THIS IS A TOTAL CONTRADICTION OF WHAT A FREE SOCIETY IS ALL 21:19:57 ABOUT. THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO 21:20:00 PROTECT THE SECRECY AND THE PRIVACY OF ALL INDIVIDUALS, NOT 21:20:04 THE SECRECY OF GOVERNMENT. WE DON'T NEED A NATIONAL I.D. 21:20:08 CARD. >> MR. TANCREDO, DO YOU AGREE 21:20:11 WITH THE NATIONAL TAMPER PROOF I.D. CARD? 21:20:14 >> I DO NOT THINK IT MUCH FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT DR. PAUL 21:20:17 SAID. WE NEED A VERIFIABLE SOCIAL 21:20:20 SECURITY CARD. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS. 21:20:22 WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE FORMER WITHOUT JAPAN DIESING RIGHTS. 21:20:29 >> -- JEOPARDIZING RIGHTS. >> LET ME GO THAT IT WOULD BE 21:20:36 PASSING AND DECIDED IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. 21:20:38 THIS ISN'T AS MUCH FUN AS CUTTING TAXES. 21:20:42 DO YOU THINK SCOOTER LIBBY SHOULD BE PARDONED? 21:20:45 >> GOVERNOR. >> I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY WHO 21:20:47 IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT LET ALONE SOMEONE WHO IS PRESIDENT 21:20:49 SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL THE JUDICIAL PROCESS IS 21:20:53 COMPLETE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I THINK IT 21:20:55 WAS OUTRAGEOUS FOR THE PROSECUTOR KNOWING THAT SCOOTER 21:20:58 LIBBY WAS NOT THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK TO INTERVIEW HIM, 21:21:01 GATHERING INFORMATION AND SETTING UP A CASE, IT WAS 21:21:05 PROSECUTORIAL INDISCRETION. THE NATIONAL I.D. CARD IS FOR 21:21:09 ALIENS, NOT FOR CITIZENS. IT'S FOR THOSE WHO COME HERE 21:21:12 OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. >> MAYOR, YOU WANT IT FOR 21:21:15 EVERYONE? >> I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE 21:21:18 COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES. >> THAT WILL BE INTERESTING HOW 21:21:22 THAT IS. LET ME GO TO SENATOR, DO YOU 21:21:25 THINK SCOOTER LIBBY SHOULD BE -- 21:21:27 >> LET THE LEGAL PROCESS MOVE FORWARD AND I LEAVE THAT UP TO 21:21:30 PRESIDENT BUSH. >> THE JUDGE IS GOING TO RULE 21:21:31 ON THAT CASE NEXT MONTH AND DECIDE WHETHER HE WILL BE 21:21:35 IMPRISONNED DURING HIS APPEAL? >> I'D LEAVE THAT UP TO THE 21:21:39 PRESIDENT. AT THE END OF THE TERM HE 21:21:41 DECIDES TO LET HIM OUT. >> YOU DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM TO 21:21:45 APPEAL? >> I WOULD SEE WILLINGNESS TO 21:21:47 GO EITHER WAY ON THIS BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING FACTS ON THIS 21:21:51 CASE ARE THERE WAS NOT A LAW THAT WAS VIOLATED. 21:21:54 THEY'RE SAYING IS OK, YOU DIDN'T REMEMBER RIGHT AND 21:21:57 THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE BEING PROSECUTED AND FOUND GUILTY 21:22:01 FOR. >> DO NO PORTIONS SO FAR. 21:22:03 >> NOT YET. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH 21:22:08 THESE PAPERS WITH RESPECT TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, NOT WITH 21:22:11 RESPECT TO ALL AMERICANS. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A NATIONAL 21:22:14 I.D. CARD. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DIFFUSE 21:22:16 ACROSS THE STATES. WITH RESPECT TO SCOOTER LIBBY I 21:22:19 WAS AN ELECTED PROSECUTOR, I HANDLED MANY CASES MYSELF AND 21:22:22 MANAGED OTHERS. THE LAW HAS TO APPLY WITHIN THE 21:22:25 DISCRETION OF THE PROSECUTOR. IF A PRESIDENT IS GOING TO 21:22:29 EXERCISE, WHICH I HAVE BY THE WAY DONE MYSELF AS A CHIEF 21:22:33 EXECUTIVE PARTS, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS HIGH PROFILE 21:22:36 AS IT IS, YOU GO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND MAKE YOUR 21:22:39 CASE AS TO WHY THAT KIND OF DISCRETION OUGHT TO BE APPLIED. 21:22:41 IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT CASE, HE SHOULDN'T DO IT. 21:22:44 >> YOU DON'T WANT ANOTHER MARK RICH? 21:22:47 >> WHAT? >> NEVER MIND. 21:22:49 DOES ANYONE WANT TO RAISE HIS HAND AND SAY PARDON HIM? 21:22:56 OK >> THERE R-TWO PEOPLE SERVING 21:23:02 PRISON TIME FOR ACTUALLY DOING THEIR TIMETONNED BORDER. 21:23:05 >> DR. PAUL, DO YOU WANT TO PARDON HIM. 21:23:08 >> HE DOESN'T IMMEDIATE A PARDON. 21:23:12 HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE MISINFORMATION THAT LET THE 21:23:14 CONGRESS AND THE PEOPLE TO SUPPORT A WAR THAT WE DIDN'T 21:23:17 NEED TO BE IN. >> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION 21:23:20 WHICH HAS GRABBED A LOT OF AMERICAN'S PERSONALLY. 21:23:23 THE SHIVEO CASE. IT WAS A QUESTION WHETHER THE 21:23:27 UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE INTERVENED AND PASSED A LAW TO 21:23:29 ADVISE THE APPELLATE COURT WHETHER TO ACT OR NOT. 21:23:34 SHOULD CONGRESS HAVE ACTED OR LET THE FAMILY MADE THE 21:23:38 DECISION? >> I THINK WE SHOULD GENERALLY 21:23:41 LET THE FAMILY MAKE THE DECISION OF THIS NATURE. 21:23:42 >> THE HUSBAND SHOULD HAVE DECIDED. 21:23:44 >> GENERALLY WE SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION AND THE CASE HERE 21:23:46 THE COURTS DECIDED WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO 21:23:50 DO AND JEB BUSH AND THE LEGISLATURE DID THE THING BUT 21:23:56 THE DECISION OF CONGRESS GETTING INVOLVED WAS A MISTAKE. 21:23:58 THE CONGRESS'S JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT LAWS ARE RESPECTING 21:24:02 THE SANCTITY OF LIFE BUT TO ADD JUDE INDICATE A CASE LIKE THIS, 21:24:07 IT SHOULD BE DOWN BY THE GOVERNOR. 21:24:09 >> SHOULD CONGRESS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED? 21:24:11 >> YES, IT SHOULD HAVE AND IT GAVE HER THE RIGHT AND THE 21:24:13 FAMILY THE RIGHT TO TAKE THAT APPEAL TO THE COURT. 21:24:16 THAT'S WHAT THE CONGRESS DID. AND HER LIFE IS SACRED. 21:24:20 EVEN IF IT'S THAT DIFFICULT MOMENT THAT SHE'S IN AT THAT 21:24:23 POINT IN TIME, THAT LIFE IS SACRED AND WE SHOULD STAND FOR 21:24:26 LIFE IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. >> SENATOR MCCAIN, WAS CONGRESS 21:24:28 RIGHT IN INTERVENING IN THAT CASE? 21:24:31 >> IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE. 21:24:33 ALL OF US WERE DEEPLY MOVED BY THE PICTURES AND THE DEPICTION 21:24:36 OF THIS TERRIBLE TRAGIC CASE. IN RETROSPECT, WE SHOULD HAVE 21:24:40 TAKEN SOME MORE TIME AND LOOKED AT IT MORE CAREFULLY AND 21:24:43 PROBABLY WE ACTED TOO HASTILY. >> MAYOR, WAS THAT A GOOD THING 21:24:47 FOR CONGRESS TO DO? >> THE FAMILY WAS IN DISPUTE. 21:24:49 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE COURTS FOR. AND THE BETTER PLACE TO DECIDE 21:24:53 THAT IN A MUCH FAIRER AND A DEEPER WAY IS IN FRONT A COURT. 21:24:58 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION -- I WANT TO GET TO THE NEXT 21:25:02 QUESTION BECAUSE YOU CAN EXPAND ON YOUR THOUGHT AS PART OF THIS 21:25:05 ANSWER. I ASKED ABOUT RAISING TAXES AND 21:25:07 IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THE REAGAN ROUND HERE, EVERYONE WANTED TO 21:25:11 DO THAT. I'M SURE HE WAS LISTENING TO 21:25:12 THAT GOOD THOUGHT. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING 21:25:15 ELSE THAT MIGHT BE A NEGATIVE IN THE UPCOMING CAMPAIGN. 21:25:19 WOULD IT BE GOOD FOR AMERICA TO HAVE BILL CLINTON BACK LIVING 21:25:23 IN THE WHITE HOUSE? >> YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. 21:25:28 >> NO, I'M NOT. HIS WIFE IS RUNNING. 21:25:31 >> THE ONLY THING THAT I COULD THINK OF THAT WOULD BE AS BAD 21:25:34 AS THAT IS HAVE THE GANG OF THREE RUNNING THE WAR ON 21:25:38 TERROR, PELOSI, REID, AND HILLARY CLINTON. 21:25:40 SO I HAVE BEEN HONEST WOULD YOU, IT WOULD BE AN ALL OF 21:25:44 THING -- AWFUL THING FOR A LOT OF REASONS. 21:25:47 >> HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE ELECTED NOT BECAUSE OF WHO SHE 21:25:49 IS BUT BECAUSE OF THE POLICIES THAT SHE STANDS FOR, RAISING 21:25:53 TAXES, OF NOT STANDING UP FOR LIFE OR MARRIAGE, THOSE ARE 21:25:56 WHAT WOULD BE BAD. >> GOVERNOR, BILL CLINTON BACK 21:26:00 IN THE WHITE HOUSE? >> NO, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN 21:26:03 THAT HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 21:26:05 AND WHERE YOU'VE BEEN IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND SHE 21:26:08 TRIED TO SOCIALIZE MEDICINE IN THIS COUNTRY, A VERY BAD IDEA. 21:26:11 YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND YET SHE SAID 21:26:14 IN THE ONLY -- >> WE HAVE A RAISOR BACK TO 21:26:19 TALK. SHOULD THEY COME BACK AND BILL? 21:26:22 >> NO ONE ON THIS STAGE KNOWS HILLARY CLINTON BETTER THAN I 21:26:25 DO AND I WILL TELL YOU IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE EITHER OF 21:26:28 THEM IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> BILL CLINTON CUT THE U.S. 21:26:32 ARMY BY ALMOST 50% IN THIS WAR AGAINST TERROR. 21:26:35 HE'S THE WRONG GUY TO HAVE IN THERE. 21:26:38 AND ON THE OTHER CASE, RONALD REAGAN SAID ON THE QUESTION OF 21:26:41 LIFE, WHEN THERE IS A QUESTION, ERR ON THE SIDE OF LIFE. 21:26:44 I THINK CONGRESS DID THE RIGHT THING. 21:26:47 >> GOVERNOR, SHOULD BILL CLINTON BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE 21:26:50 BE GOOD FOR AMERICA? IT IS A POSSIBILITY HERE. 21:26:52 >> A BAD POSSIBILITY. NO NATIONAL I.D. AND THE 21:26:58 MEDICAL CASE SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE STATES AND BILL CLINTON 21:27:01 SHOULD NOT BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND WE CERTAINLY SHOULD 21:27:03 NOT ELECT ANY DEMOCRAT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, ONE OF US HERE 21:27:06 SHOULD BE. >> GOOD CLEAN-UP HITTING THERE. 21:27:10 SENATOR. >> NO, BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY 21:27:12 WOULD MEAN THAT SENATOR CLINTON IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED 21:27:15 STATES AND WE DON'T WANT THAT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WOULD MEAN 21:27:19 THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AND OTHER JUDGES 21:27:24 WOULD TAKE A SHARP TURN TO THE LEFT. 21:27:26 ONE OF OUR GREATEST PROBLEMS IN AMERICA TODAY IS JUSTICES THAT 21:27:30 LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH, I'M PROUD THAT WE HAVE JUSTICE 21:27:33 ALITO AND ROBERTS ON THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. 21:27:36 I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE PLAYED A SMALL ROLE IN MAKING THAT 21:27:39 HAPPEN. >> DR. PAUL. 21:27:40 >> I AM KNOWN FOR STICKING TO PRINCIPAL AND NOT 21:27:44 FLIP-FLOPPING. I VOTED TO IMPEACH HIM. 21:27:48 >> MAYOR GIULIANI. >> IT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WERE 21:27:50 BACK ON DEFENSE AGAINST TERRORISM GIVEN SENATOR 21:27:53 CLINTON'S RECENT POSITIONS AND THE REALITY IS IN THE 1990'S WE 21:27:57 WERE ON DEFENSE IN DEALING WITH TERRORISM. 21:28:00 WHEN YOU HAD THIS DEBATE LAST WEEK AND ALL THE DEMOCRATS WERE 21:28:02 UP HERE, I NEVER REMEMBER THE WORDS ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST 21:28:07 TERRORISM BEING SPOKEN BY ANY OF THEM. 21:28:09 >> MR. TANCREDO, LAST THOUSAND. >> I KNOW HE IS PRESENTLY 21:28:13 MEASURING THE DRAPES OVER IN THE OVAL OFFICE, BUT NO, IT'S A 21:28:18 LOUSY IDEA. >> YOU THINK HE'S MEASURING THE 21:28:21 DRAPES. LET ME START WITH THE QUESTION. 21:28:23 IF YOU WANT TO PASS, PLEASE PASS. 21:28:26 EVERY PRESIDENT IF YOU LOOK BACK WAS ELECTED TO FILL THE 21:28:29 PROBLEMS OF THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT. 21:28:31 WE ARE CORRECTING ALL THE TIME IN THIS COUNTRY. 21:28:34 HOW WILL YOU BE DIFFERENT IN ANY WAY FROM PRESIDENT GEORGE 21:28:37 W. BUSH? >> WE'RE EACH OUR OWN PERSON. 21:28:39 WE HAVE OUR OWN VALUES. I RESPECT THE PRESIDENT'S 21:28:42 CHARACTER, HIS PASSION, HIS LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 21:28:45 I BELIEVE EVERYTHING HE DOES IN THIS CAR AGAINST TERROR FLOWS 21:28:47 FROM A DESIRE TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO MAKE OUR 21:28:50 FUTURE SECURE. BUT I WILL GO TO WORK NOT ONLY 21:28:52 TO WIN THE WAR ON TERROR AS IT RELATES TO IRAQ AND 21:28:55 AFGHANISTAN, BUT ON A GLOBAL BASIS, NOT ONLY WITH A STRONG 21:28:59 MILITARY. WE NEED MORE TROOPS AND MORE 21:29:02 MILITARY SPENDING BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO STRENGTHEN 21:29:04 OUR ECONOMY AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN THE 21:29:06 PRIVATE SECTOR ALL HIS LIFE CAN PROTECT JOBS AND FINALLY 21:29:10 STRENGTHEN THE AMERICAN FAMILY. THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO DO. 21:29:12 >> SENATOR MCCAIN. >> I WOULD NOT HAVE MISMANAGED 21:29:15 THE WAR. IT WAS BADLY MISMANAGED FOR 21:29:17 FOUR YEARS. WE A NEW STRATEGY THAT I THINK 21:29:20 AND PRAY EVERY NIGHT WILL SUCCEED. 21:29:23 I WOULD HAVE VETOED SPENDING BILL AFTER SPENDING BILL AFTER 21:29:28 PORK BARREL PROJECT IN THE TRADITION OF PRESIDENT REAGAN. 21:29:31 >> MR. GILMORE. >> CHRIS, THIS CAMPAIGN IS 21:29:34 ABOUT THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES AND THERE ARE 21:29:36 AT LEAST FOUR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 21:29:38 WE NEED TO BE VIGOROUS ON THE WAR ON TERROR AND WE NEED TO 21:29:41 DRAW OTHER PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD TO US AS WE ADDRESS IT. 21:29:44 HOMELAND SECURITY HAS GOT TO BECOME AN ENTIRE EFFORT OF AN 21:29:48 ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF THE UNITED STATES AND WE HAVE NOT YET 21:29:50 ACHIEVED THAT. >> MR. HUCKABEE WE HAVE TO 21:29:53 MOVE. >> I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A 21:29:55 SHOT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 21:29:56 WENT TO A PLACE WHERE THE STATES HAD MORE POWER AND NOT 21:29:59 CENTRAL LIES IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 21:30:02 THAT'S BEEN A MISTAKE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. 21:30:04 A HUGE MISTAKE. AND WE NEED TO HONOR THE 10TH 21:30:07 EAFMENT AND REMEMBER THAT WE ARE A NATION OF STRONG STATES 21:30:11 AND WEAK FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> WE WON WORLD WAR II, WORLD 21:30:18 WAR I AND THE COLD WAR. WE'RE LOSING OUR INDUSTRIAL 21:30:21 BASE THROUGH BAD TRADE POLICY RIGHT NOW. 21:30:24 CHINA IS CHEATING ON TRADE. I WOULD ENFORCE TRADE LAWS 21:30:26 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING. 21:30:29 >> I'D PUSH MORE A POLITICAL SOLUTION ALONG WITH A MILITARY 21:30:32 SOLUTION IN IRAQ AND HERE I WOULD PUSH A THREE STATE, ONE 21:30:36 CONCURRENT SOLUTION WITH IRAQ. BAGHDAD IS THE CENTRAL CITY. 21:30:42 WE'VE GOT TO PUSH A POLITICAL SOLUTION ALONG WITH THE 21:30:45 MILITARY TO GET TO A STABLE SITUATION IN IRAQ WHICH IS OUR 21:30:48 KEY POLITICAL ISSUE OF THE DAY. >> MR. TANCREDO. 21:30:52 >> THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE MANY GOOD THINGS AND I'M PROUD OF 21:30:55 HIM FOR IT. ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES, 21:30:58 ESPECIALLY NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND, THE MEDICARE 21:31:00 PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL, THESE THINGS WERE OVER ARCHING AND 21:31:06 REACHING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 21:31:07 IN TERMS OF IRAQ, IT'S TIME, YOU KNOW, FRANKLIN SAID IN 1727 21:31:12 THAT HE WANTED TO -- COULD I PLEASE -- 21:31:16 >> GOVERNOR THOMPSON PLEASE. >> I WOULD TRANSFORM THE HEALTH 21:31:20 CARE SYSTEM A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE PRESIDENT IS TALKING 21:31:23 ABOUT. I WOULD SET UP A PEACEFUL WAY 21:31:26 TO SETTLE THE SITUATION IN IRAQ BY ALLOWING THE IRAQIS TO ELECT 21:31:30 THEIR OWN LEADERS IN THE STATES AND BE ABLE TO SPLIT THE OIL 21:31:33 REVENUES. I WOULD SET UP MEDICAL AND 21:31:41 EDUCATIONAL DIPLOMA SI TO BE INVOLVED IN OUR FOREIGN 21:31:46 RELATIONS. >> ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 WE 21:31:47 THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE ATTACKED MANY TIMES BETWEEN 21:31:50 THEN AND NOW. WE HAVEN'T BEEN. 21:31:52 I BELIEVE WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO MADE THE RIGHT DECISION AT 21:31:54 THE RIGHT TIME ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2001 TO PUT US ON OFFENSE 21:31:59 AGAINST TERRORISTS. HISTORY WILL REMEMBER HIM FOR 21:32:01 THAT AND WE AS REPUBLICANS SHOULD REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT. 21:32:03 >> DR. PAUL. >> I CERTAINLY WOULD CONTINUE 21:32:06 ON MY EARLIER THEME THAT FOREIGN POLICY NEEDS TO BE 21:32:10 CHANGED. MR. REPUBLICAN, REPORTER TAFT, 21:32:13 WE HAVE A STATUE OF HIM IN WASHINGTON. 21:32:18 I WOULD WORK VERY HARD TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF AMERICAN 21:32:21 CITIZENS BEING VERY, VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT WARRANTLESS 21:32:23 SEARCHES AND I WOULD GUARANTEE THAT I WOULD NEVER ABUSE HABEAS 21:32:27 CORPUS. >> THIS IS HARDLY THE END OF 21:32:30 THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OR EVEN THE BEGINNING OF THE 21:32:34 END BUT IT IS AT LEAST THE END OF THE BEGINNING. 21:32:36 THIS DEBATE AIRS AGAIN TONIGHT ON MSNBC AT 11:00 EASTERN TIME. 21:32:42 I'LL JOIN KEITH OLBERMANN ON MSNBC FOR A COMPLETE DEBATE 21:32:45 ANALYSIS AND COVERAGE AS THE CAMPAIGN HEADS TO THE SPIN 21:32:48 ROOM. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE, 21:32:50 ESPECIALLY MRS. RONALD REAGAN AND THE REAGAN LIBRARY. 21:32:56 [APPLAUSE] >> A FEW TRIP-UPS, A FEW 21:33:12 LAUGHS, PERHAPS FOR IRAN AND IRAQ. 21:33:14 CERTAINLY MORE IRAN THAN IRAQ THAT WE EXPECTED AND PERHAPS 21:33:18 SOME CRITICISM. >> THANKS TO THE PEOPLE OF NBC 21:33:24 NEWS AND MSNBC AND THANKS TO THE 10 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL 21:33:28 CANDIDATES HERE TONIGHT. FROM THE RONALD REAGAN 21:33:31 PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY, GOOD NIGHT. 21:33:34 [APPLAUSE] >> AND NO MATTER THE 21:33:44 CANDIDATES, NO MATTER THE PARTY, CHRIS MATTHEWS WILL 21:33:48 ALWAYS HAVE THE LAST WORD. A FEW TRIP-UPS, A FEW LAUGHS, 21:33:54 MORE IRAN THAN IRAQ PERHAPS, MORE CRITICISM BUT NOT BY NAME 21:33:58 OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S POLICIES IN IRAQ. 21:34:02 AND THOSE OPEN QUESTIONS, WHO LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL, WHO DID 21:34:05 NOT, WHO GOT THEIR POINTS ACROSS, WHO SEEMED TO BE TRYING 21:34:07 TOO HARD TO GET THEIR POINTS ACROSS. 21:34:10 YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING THE FIRST IN THE NATION REPUBLICAN 21:34:14 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DEBATE HERE AT THE RONALD REAGAN IN 21:34:19 SIMI VALLEY, CALIFORNIA. CHRIS MATTHEWS WILL BE JOINING 21:34:22 US AFTER THE HANDSHAKES AND BACK SLAPS. 21:34:25 I'M KEITH OLBERMANN ABOVE THE CROWD AND ABOVE THE FRAY 21:34:29 ALONGSIDE THE "CHICAGO TRIBUNE"'S JILL AND 21:34:32 "NEWSWEEK"'S HOWARD AND WE BID YOU A GOOD EVENING FROM THE 21:34:37 LIBRARY. THERE ARE MANY OF THE HUGE 21:34:39 POINTS AND MANY EXTRAORDINARY POLICY STATEMENTS THAT WE HEARD 21:34:42 HERE, WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 21:34:45 90 MINUTES. BUT THE BIGGEST POINT, WHO 21:34:47 LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL, WHO SOUNDED PRESIDENTIAL, WHO DID 21:34:51 NOT? >> I THINK THAT RUDY GIULIANI 21:34:54 DID NOT QUITE. HE CAME IN AS THE FRONTRUNNER. 21:34:57 I THINK THIS WAS NOT A SITUATION THAT HE COULD 21:34:58 DOMINATE AND HE DIDN'T DOMINATE IT BECAUSE HE HAD TO TALK ABOUT 21:35:02 ABORTION, STEM CELL RESEARCH, A LOT OF SOCIAL ISSUES THAT HE 21:35:05 WAS NOT ON FIRM TURF WITH

[VOTE 2008: GOP Presidential Debate: 2100 - 2200] [Republican Presidential Debate: 2100 - 2200] [SIMI VALLEY, CA USA] Ten Republican candidates appear at a debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. Debating are: Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, Tom Tancredo, and James Gilmore. 21:00:00 REAGAN THE ALTERNATIVES WHICH ARE ADULT STEM CELLS. 21:00:01 >> GOVERNOR THOMPSON. >> THERE IS SO MUCH RESEARCH 21:00:06 GOING ON, YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT YES OR NO. 21:00:08 THERE IS RESEARCH GOING ON IN MADISON, WISCONSIN, THAT IS 21:00:12 GOING TO LOU FOR ADULT STEM CELLS WHICH WILL HAVE THE SAME 21:00:17 CHARACTERISTICS OF OTHERS SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO KILL AN 21:00:23 EMBOROUGHO. >> I WANT TO THANK MRS. REAGAN 21:00:25 FOR THE MANY KINDNESSES EXTENDED TO MY FELLOW PRISONERS 21:00:31 OF WAR WHEN WE CAME HOME TO THIS WONDERFUL STATE. 21:00:33 WE NEED TO FUND THIS. THIS IS A TOUGH ISSUE FOR THOSE 21:00:36 OF US IN THE PRO LIFE COMMUNITY. 21:00:38 I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT THESE STEM CELLS ARE GOING TO BE 21:00:42 DISCARDED OR FROZEN. WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO 21:00:46 RELIEVE HUMAN SUFFERING. IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE. 21:00:49 >> THAT'S A YES. >> YES OR NOR? 21:00:51 >> PROGRAMS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. 21:00:55 THE TROUBLE WITH THIS, ISSUES LIKE THIS IN WASHINGTON WE 21:01:00 EITHER PROHIBIT OR SUB SI DISEASE IT AND THE MARKETS AND 21:01:03 STATES SHOULD DEAL WITH IT. >> AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT 21:01:06 CREATING LIFE IN ORDER TO DESTROY. 21:01:08 WE'RE NOT HAVING HUMAN CLONING AND WE LIMIT IT TO THAT AND 21:01:11 THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO USE FEDERAL FUNDS IN THOSE 21:01:15 SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS SO I WOULD SUPPORT 21:01:17 IT WITH THOSE ELIMINATIONS LIKE THE BILL IN CONGRESS. 21:01:21 >> THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS GOING INTO THIS 21:01:23 RESEARCH RIGHT NOW, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ME TAKING MONEY FROM 21:01:27 TAXPAYERS IN THE UNITED STATES TO FUND IT. 21:01:32 >> GOVERNOR ROMNEY A YEAR AGO IT SEEMED LIKE YOU COULDN'T 21:01:36 WAIT TO TELL ABOUT YOUR HEALTH CARE EXPERIMENT IN 21:01:39 MASSACHUSETTS. IT'S BEEN CRITICIZED AS 21:01:42 SOMETHING HILLARY CLINTON COULD BE DEVISED. 21:01:43 YOU HARDLY MENTION IT ON YOUR WEBSITE. 21:01:46 WHAT'S CHANGED? >> I LOVE IT. 21:01:48 IT'S A FABULOUS PROGRAM. I'M DELIGHTED THAT IN OUR STATE 21:01:53 WE WORKED TOGETHER ACROSS THE AISLE TO FIND A WAY TO GET 21:01:55 HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, IT'S AFFORDABLE AND 21:01:59 PORTABLE. THERE IS SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T 21:02:00 LIKE IT. BUT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO VOTE, 21:02:03 WE WON 198-2. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION WORKED 21:02:06 ON IT WITH US. WE HAD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF 21:02:08 THE AISLE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WONDER 21:02:10 ABOUT IT. SENATOR KENNEDY AT THE SIGNING 21:02:12 OF THE BILL, WE WERE ALL THERE TOGETHER, IF YOU GOT MITT 21:02:16 ROMNEY AND TED KENNEDY AGREEING, WE DIDN'T READ IT. 21:02:22 BUT I HELPED RIGHT IT. INSTEAD GET THE MARKET TO DO 21:02:30 ITS JOB. LET PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH CARE 21:02:32 THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, GET THE MARKET TO DO ITS JOB. 21:02:34 LET PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE POLICIES IN THE 21:02:37 PRIVATE SECTOR. WE DIDN'T EXPAND GOVERNMENT 21:02:40 PROGRAMS, WE DIDN'T RAISE TAXES. 21:02:42 THERE WAS NO GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER. 21:02:44 THE MARKET CAN WORK TO SOLVE OUR HEALTH CARE NEEDS AND 21:02:46 THAT'S THE GREAT EXCITING NEWS AND 27 OTHER STATES ARE WORKING 21:02:49 ON HEALTH CARE REFORM RIGHT NOW. 21:02:51 IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ENTIRE 21:02:55 COUNTRY. >> JOHN. 21:02:56 >> SENATOR MCCAIN, SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN HIT PRETTY 21:03:00 HARD ON FLIP-FLOPS BUT YOU NOW SUPPORT EXTENDING THE TAX CUTS 21:03:05 WHICH YOU ORIGINALLY VOTED AGAINST THEM. 21:03:07 THAT MAKES NO SENSE? >> IN THE PROPOSAL I HAD THERE 21:03:11 WERE SIGNIFICANT TAX CUTS AND THERE WAS NO PROVISION TO START 21:03:15 ADDRESSING SOCIAL SECURITY OR A CONTINGENCY. 21:03:19 WE HAD THAT CALLED THE IRAQ WAR AND WE HAD NO RESTRAINT ON 21:03:22 SPENDING AND SPENDING GOT COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. 21:03:25 YES, THESE TAX CUTS NEED TO BE MADE PERMANENT. 21:03:29 OTHERWISE THEY'LL HAVE THE AFFECT OF A TAX INCREASE. 21:03:31 BUT SPENDING IS DESTROYING THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY AND 21:03:34 WE'VE GOT TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL AND AS I STARTED TO SAY 21:03:38 BEFORE, THE FIRST PORK BARREL EARMARKED BILL THAT CROSSES MY 21:03:42 DESK AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'M GOING TO VETO IT 21:03:44 AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THE AUTHORS OF IT FAMOUS. 21:03:46 >> LET'S START WITH AN ENJOYABLE DOWN THE LINE. 21:03:50 I WANT EACH CANDIDATE TO MENTION A TAX HE'D LIKE TO CUT 21:03:54 IN ADDITION TO THE BUSH TAX CUTS KEEPING THEM IN EFFECT. 21:03:56 GOVERNOR. >> I'D LIKE MIDDLE INCOME 21:03:59 AMERICANS TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THEIR MONEY AND NOT HAVE TO PAY 21:04:02 ANY TAX AT ALL ON INTEREST, DIVIDENDS, OR CAPITAL GAINS AND 21:04:06 BY THE WAY -- >> ZERO RATE. 21:04:09 >> FOR MIDDLE INCOME AMERICANS. WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HOW 21:04:13 ANXIOUS WE ARE TO VETO OVERSPENDING. 21:04:15 I WAS A GOVERNOR. I'VE DONE IT HUNDREDS OF TIMES. 21:04:17 I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON WASHINGTON'S BUDGET. 21:04:21 >> I PUT FORWARD AN ALTERNATIVE FLAT TAX AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO 21:04:25 CHOOSE BETWEEN THE CURRENT TAX CODE SYSTEM WHICH DOESN'T WORK 21:04:28 WHICH OUGHT TO BE TAKEN BEHIND THE BARN AND KILLED WITH A DULL 21:04:31 AX AND LET THEM CHOOSE. >> GOVERNOR, A TAX YOU WOULD 21:04:35 LIKE TO CUT. >> I'VE BEEN A GOVERNOR OF 21:04:40 VIRGINIA, I RAN ON ELIMINATE AGE CAR TAX IN VIRGINIA, I 21:04:44 RECEIVED OPPOSITION. WE ELIMINATED THAT CAR TAX. 21:04:47 NOW THE QUESTION IS WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO DO WHAT THEY 21:04:50 SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO? WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN IS WHERE 21:04:54 YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND I'VE LIVED UP TO MY WORD AND THE 21:04:57 ANSWER IS THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX WHICH IS CONTINUING 21:05:00 TO DRIVE THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS UP. 21:05:03 >> I CUT TAXES 94 TIMES AS GOVERNOR BUT TINKERING WITH IT 21:05:07 DOESN'T WORK. I WOULD OVERHAUL IT. 21:05:10 I WOULD MEET FOR THE FLAT TAX. WE GET RID OF THE I.R.S. AND 21:05:16 ALL CAPITAL GAINS, INCOME, CORPORATE AND WE'D HAVE A 21:05:19 CONSUMPTION TAX. THE FAIR TAX PROPOSAL, I 21:05:21 BELIEVE, OFFERS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL LEVELS OF 21:05:25 AMERICANS. >> CONGRESSMAN, YOUR TURN. 21:05:26 >> ABSOLUTELY, CHRIS, YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW OUR MANUFACTURERS ARE 21:05:30 GETTING KILLED. WE'RE SEEING MANUFACTURING MOVE 21:05:34 OFFSHORE BECAUSE OF A TRADE DEAL THAT WE SIGNED WITH THE 21:05:37 REST OF THE WORLD ALLOWS ALL OF OUR EXPORTS TO BE TAXED TWICE 21:05:40 WHILE THEIR EXPORTS TO US ARE NOT TAXED AT ALL. 21:05:43 THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN EVEN COME CLOSE TO LEVELING THAT 21:05:47 PLAYING FIELD IS TO ELIMINATE MANUFACTURING TAXES. 21:05:50 SO ELIMINATE ALL TAXES ON AMERICANS WHO WILL STAY IN THE 21:05:54 UNITED STATES AND MAKE PRODUCTS AND HIRE AMERICAN WORKERS. 21:05:57 >> GOVERNOR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 21:05:59 I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS GOVERNOR OF 21:06:03 WISCONSIN AND VETOED 1,900 ITEMS, 1,900 TIMES REDUCED 21:06:08 TAXES 16.4 BILLION, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE'VE GOT IN AMERICA IS 21:06:14 THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX THAT'S BRINGING MORE MIDDLE 21:06:17 INCOME IN. LET'S PUT IT IN AND HAVE THE 21:06:19 PEOPLE HAVE A FLAT TAX AND HAVE THE OPTION OF PAYING WHICHEVER 21:06:22 IS LEAST. >> SENATOR MCCAIN. 21:06:24 >> I GIVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THE LINE-ITEM 21:06:27 VETO ON THESE BILLS AS WELL AS SPENDING BILLS. 21:06:30 THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX IS OBVIOUSLY EATING AMERICANS 21:06:33 ALIVE AND IT'S GOT TO BE REPEELED. 21:06:36 ANOTHER ONE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS A TAX CREDIT FOR 21:06:40 PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE. 21:06:43 LOW INCOME AMERICANS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE WHICH IS 21:06:46 AN AMAZING AND DIFFICULT PROBLEM TODAY AND SIMPLER 21:06:50 FLATTER FAIR TAX SO AMERICANS DON'T HAVE TO SPENT $140 21:06:55 BILLION AS THEY JUST DID LAST APRIL TO PREPARE THEIR TAX 21:07:00 RETURNS. >> WELL, IN MY FIRST WEEK, I 21:07:01 ALREADY GOT RID OF THE INCOME TAX. 21:07:04 MY SECOND WEEK, I WOULD GET RID OF THE INFLATION TAX, A TAX 21:07:07 THAT NOBODY TALKS ABOUT. WE LIVE WAY BEYOND OUR MEANS 21:07:10 WITH A FOREIGN POLICY WE CAN'T AFFORD AND A SYSTEM THAT WE 21:07:14 HAVE ENCOURAGED. WE PRINT MONEY FOR IT. 21:07:16 THE VALUE OF THE MONEY GOES DOWN AND POOR PEOPLE PAY HIGHER 21:07:20 PRICES. THAT IS A TAX. 21:07:21 THAT'S A TRANSFER OF WEALTH OF THE POOR TO WALL STREET. 21:07:27 THE INFLATION IS EATING AWAY AT THE MIDDLE CLASS OF THIS 21:07:30 COUNTRY. WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE 21:07:32 INFLATION TAX WITH SOUND MONEY. >> MAYOR. 21:07:34 >> WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE A.M.T., THAT HAS TO BE REDUCED. 21:07:38 WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE DEATH TAX WHICH IS GOING TO GO TO 21:07:42 ZERO IN 2010 WHICH IS GOING TO CREATE AN INCENTIVE, I CAN'T 21:07:46 IMAGINE WHAT KIND IT'S GOING TO CREATE. 21:07:48 IT'S GOING TO ZEROO AND 2011 IT'S GOING TO 55% AND THE TAX 21:07:53 CUTS THAT WENT INTO EFFECT REMAINS. 21:07:56 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAX INCREASES IN 21:07:58 HISTORY IN 2011. I WOULD LOOK TO TRY TO 21:08:04 REGULARIZE THE RATES AND LOOK FOR SOME REDUCTION BEYOND WHAT 21:08:08 WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. >> FOR ALL OF THE REASONS 21:08:11 MENTIONED, I SUPPORT THE FAIR TAX, IT'S ACCOMPANIED WITH THE 21:08:15 REPEAL OF THE 16TH AMENDMENT. WE END UP WITH A CONSUMPTION 21:08:19 TAX AND AN INCOME TAX AND ALL THIS TALK ABOUT VETOING 21:08:23 SPENDING BILLS AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEM, LET 21:08:26 ME TELL YOU, YOU CAN VETO ALL OF THE SPENDING BILLS YOU WANT. 21:08:30 YOU WILL NOT TOUCH THE DEFICIT UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY DEAL WITH 21:08:33 THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEM IN MANDATORY SPENDING. 21:08:35 THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS. YOU CAN VETO EVERY ONE OF THE 21:08:38 BILLS THAT COME TO YOU AS DISCRETIONARY FUNDING INCLUDING 21:08:43 THE MILITARY. IT IS IN FACT MANDATORY 21:08:45 SPENDING THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH OR FORGET THE IDEA OF 21:08:50 DEFICIT SPENDING. >> SENATOR MCCAIN, YOU SAID YOU 21:08:53 PLAN TO POISON A DEMOCRAT TO THE MAJOR CABINET POINT. 21:08:59 TELL US NAMES. YOU GIVE BONUS POINTS IF YOU 21:09:04 SAY OTHER THAN JOE LIEBERMAN. >> THERE MUST BE OTHERS. 21:09:06 >> THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE QUALIFIED. 21:09:09 THERE ARE MANY AMERICANS WHO ARE INDEPENDENTS OR DEMOCRATS 21:09:13 OR REPUBLICANS, WHATEVER THEY ARE WHO ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED 21:09:16 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'D GO TO CORPORATE AMERICA. 21:09:19 I'D GO TO SILICON VALLEY AND I'D GO TO JOHN WHO HAS MADE HIS 21:09:26 MONEY, COME AND SERVE OUR COUNTRY. 21:09:29 I DON'T CARE IF THESE PEOPLE WITH THIS GREAT TALENT THAT 21:09:33 HAVE MADE THE PEOPLE A LEADER, I GO TO THESE PEOPLE NOW COME 21:09:36 AND SERVE YOUR COUNTRY AND MY FIRST PRIORITY WOULD BE THEIR 21:09:40 TALENTS AND WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE RATHER THAN WHAT 21:09:43 THEIR PARTY IDENTIFICATION IS. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER MORE. 21:09:47 I KNOW HOW TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE TO THE DEMOCRATS AND THEY 21:09:50 KNOW HOW TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE FOR ME. 21:09:52 I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME. 21:09:54 >> TIME FOR OUR FINAL INTERACTIVE SEGMENT OF THE 21:09:56 PROGRAM AND THE DEBATE. JIM VANDEHEI. 21:10:00 >> CONGRESSMAN HUNTER, RYAN FROM LOS ANGELES WANTS YOU TO 21:10:03 NAME ONE THING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES REALLY WELL AND 21:10:05 ONE THING THAT IT DOES POORLY. >> REALLY WELL, PRECISION 21:10:12 MUNITIONS ON THE SAFE HOUSE. REALLY POORLY. 21:10:15 SECURE THE BORDER. THE BORDER IS 2,000 MILES OF A 21:10:19 VERY POROUS AREA WHERE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME 21:10:22 ACROSS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND LAST YEAR WE HAD 155,000 FOLKS 21:10:27 WHO CAME ACROSS FROM MEXICO WHO WERE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES IN 21:10:31 THE WORLD, SOME FROM CHINA, SOME FROM IRAN, WE HAVE TO 21:10:35 SECURE THE BORDER. THAT'S THE BIGGEST FAILURE OF 21:10:38 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> SENATOR MCCAIN, THIS COMES 21:10:41 FROM A POLITICO.COM READER AND WAS AMONG THE TOP VOTE GETTERS. 21:10:45 THEY WANT A YES OR NO. DO YOU BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION? 21:10:49 >> YES. >> I'M CURIOUS, IS THERE 21:10:51 ANYBODY ON THE STAGE THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION? 21:10:56 >> MAY I JUST ADD TO THAT, I BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION BUT I ALSO 21:11:00 BELIEVE WHEN I HIKE THE GRAND CANYON AND SEE A SUNSET THAT 21:11:04 THE HAND OF GOD IS THERE ALSO. >> GOVERNOR ROMNEY, ROBERT FROM 21:11:10 MARYLAND WANTS TO KNOW WHICH CABINET OFFICIAL WOULD BE AT 21:11:13 THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THOSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO CARRY INTO 21:11:15 YOUR ADMINISTRATION IF YOU'RE ELECTED? 21:11:17 >> WELL MY GUESS IT WOULD BE AN ENTIRELY NEW TEAM. 21:11:20 YOU WANT TO BUILD A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT 21:11:23 THE FUTURE AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TO SEE THAT WE STRENGTHEN 21:11:28 OUR MILITARY, THE ECONOMY AND THE AMERICAN FAMILY. 21:11:31 THAT'S THE HEART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE AMERICAN 21:11:35 FAMILY. THE FAMILY IS SEEING AN 21:11:36 EXPLOSION IN OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS. 21:11:38 WE HAVE GREAT SINGLE MOMS DOING THEIR BEST BUT WE HAVE TO 21:11:41 ENCOURAGE MOM'S AND DADS BECAUSE THE CRITICAL WORK FOR 21:11:44 THE FUTURE OF MARK IS THE WORK THAT GOES ON IN THE FOUR WALLS 21:11:48 OF THE HOME. WE HAVE TO HELP THE FAMILY AND 21:11:51 GET MORE MARGESE BEFORE BABIES. >> MAYOR GIULIANI, THIS COMES 21:11:55 FROM ERIC TAYLOR FROM CALIFORNIA, HE WANTS TO KNOW 21:11:59 WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SUNNI AND SHI'IA MUST LEM. 21:12:03 >> THE DIFFERENCE IS DESCENDANT OF HOMEDE. 21:12:10 THEY BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE SELECTED AND THE SUNNIS BELIEVE 21:12:15 IT SHOULD BE DID I DESCENT. THERE WAS A SLAUGHTER OF 21:12:20 SHIITES IN THE EARLY PART OF THE HISTORY OF ISLAM AND IT IS 21:12:27 FORTUNATE. >> GOVERNOR GILMORE A 21:12:29 POLITICO.COM READER SAYS YOU CLAIM TO BE THE ONLY REAL 21:12:31 CONSERVATIVE IN THIS RACE. THEY WANT TO YOU EXPLAIN WHY 21:12:34 NONE OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES DESERVE THE LABEL THEMSELVES AS 21:12:37 I TRUE CONSERVATIVE? >> I'VE NOT SAID I'M THE ONLY 21:12:40 CONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE. I AM A CONSISTENT SEVERT, THE 21:12:44 ONE THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON. SOMEONE ISN'T GOING TO SAY ONE 21:12:48 THING ONE YEAR AND ANOTHER THING ANOTHER YEAR AND FLIP AND 21:12:52 FLOP AND CHANGE AROUND. I RAN AS A CONSERVATIVE. 21:12:54 I GONCHEDE AS A CONSERVATIVE. I WAS AN ALTERNATIVE DELEGATE 21:12:57 FOR RONALD REAGAN TO THE KANSAS CITY CONVENTION BACK IN 1976 SO 21:13:02 I'VE BEEN CONSISTENT ALL THROUGHOUT AND I'M SOMEONE THAT 21:13:05 PEOPLE CAN COUNT ON AS A CONSERVATIVE. 21:13:07 >> CONGRESSMAN PAUL, KERRY FROM CONNECTICUT ASKS DO YOU TRUST 21:13:14 THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA? >> SOME OF THEM. 21:13:16 BUT I TRUST THE INTERNET A LOT MORE AND I TRUST THE FREEDOM OF 21:13:22 EXPRESSION AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD NEVER INTERFERE WITH THE 21:13:25 INTERNET. THAT'S WHY I'VE NEVER VOTED TO 21:13:28 REGULATE THE INTERNET EVEN WHEN THERE IS THE TEMPTATION TO PUT 21:13:31 BAD THINGS ON THE INTERNET, REGULATION OF BAD AND GOOD ON 21:13:34 THE INTERNET SHOULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. 21:13:36 BUT THERE IS EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH 21:13:39 FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. 21:13:41 THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. AND WHETHER OR NOT WE TRUST THE 21:13:43 MAINSTREAM OR NOT, I THINK YOU PICK OR CHOOSE. 21:13:46 THERE ARE SOME FRIENDS AND SOME AREN'T SO FRIENDLY. 21:13:50 >> SENATOR BROWNBACK, A READER WANTS TO KNOW IF YOUR PERSONAL 21:13:55 RELIGIOUS BELIEFS INFLUENCE YOUR FOREIGN POLICY THINKING? 21:13:58 >> I THINK PERSONAL BELIEFS OF EVERYONE SHAPE EVERYONE. 21:14:02 WE HAVE VALUES AND IT'S TAKEN IN AND TAKEN FORWARD. 21:14:05 I'VE SERVED ON THE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS 21:14:07 COMMITTEE, I'VE WORKED ON THESE ISSUES. 21:14:09 I'VE CARRIED BILLS CONCERNING SUDAN AND CONGO AND NORTH KOREA 21:14:14 AND IRAN AND IRAQ. I WOULDN'T SAY IT DOMINATES IT 21:14:18 BUT I WOULD SAY IT INFLUENCES IT AS IT DOES FOR EVERYONE AND 21:14:21 I'VE GOT A CONSISTENT RECORD HERE OF AN AGGRESSIVE, CLEAR, 21:14:26 COMPASSION NATE FOREIGN POLICY THAT I THINK IS KEY. 21:14:28 IT'S GOING TO BE KEY FOR A FUTURE PRESIDENT AND MY 21:14:31 PRESIDENCY WILL HAVE A STRONG AGGRESSIVE FOREIGN POLICY. 21:14:34 >> MAYOR GIULIANI, WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER TO BE YOUR MOST 21:14:40 SIGNIFICANT WEAKNESS AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENT OF 21:14:42 THE UNITED STATES? >> I DON'T KNOW. 21:14:50 I THINK MY STRENGTHS OUTWEIGH MY WEAKNESSES, I HAVE PLENTY OF 21:14:53 WEAK NOTICED AND I WORK ON THEM BUT I THINK I'M A PERSON WHO IS 21:14:57 A OPTIMIST I LOOK AT THE HALF FULL GLASS RATHER THAN THE HALF 21:15:01 EMPTY GLASS. THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD TURN 21:15:03 AROUND THE CITY OF NEW YORK CITY THAT WAS CONSIDERED THE 21:15:06 CRIME CAPITAL OF AMERICA IS TRYING TO BRING IN THAT RONALD 21:15:11 REAGAN OPTIMISM AND LOOKED TO TRY TO CREATE RESULTS THAT 21:15:13 PEOPLE THOUGHT WERE IMPOSSIBLE AND WE DID. 21:15:17 >> SENATOR BRONBACK DO YOU FIND ANY FOULTS IN MAYOR GIULIANI? 21:15:22 I SAW YOU LOOK AT HIM WAITING FOR HIM TO SAY SOMETHING? 21:15:26 >> NO, I DON'T. I THINK THE AUDIENCE WILL SEE 21:15:30 THIS IS A SET OF QUALITY CANDIDATES. 21:15:32 THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS IS WE'VE GOT A CHANCE TO DEBATE 21:15:34 IDEAS. AND WE WENT AS A PARTY WHEN WE 21:15:36 RUN ON IDEAS, BIG IDEAS AND PRINCIPALS AND YOU'RE SEEING 21:15:41 THESE ARTICULATED HERE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO WIN 21:15:43 IN 2008. IT'S ON PRINCIPALS AND IDEAS 21:15:45 AND BIG IDEAS HOW WE LEAD. >> THANK YOU. 21:15:48 GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, THIS QUESTION COMES FROM A READER IN 21:15:50 NEW YORK. IN LIGHT OF THE SCANDALS 21:15:53 PLAGUING THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND ITS ALLIES 21:15:55 INVOLVING CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM, WHICH MISTAKES HAVE 21:15:58 YOU LEARNED NOT TO REPEAT? NO MOST IMPORTANT THING A 21:16:03 PRESIDENT NEEDS TO DO IS MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING 21:16:05 TO CONTINUE TO SEE JOBS SHIPPED OVERSEAS, JOBS THAT ARE LOST BY 21:16:10 AMERICAN WORKERS, MANY IN THEIR 50'S WHO HAVE WORKED TO MAKE A 21:16:14 COMPANY RICH AND THEN WATCH AS A C.E.O. TAKES $100 MILLION 21:16:19 BONUS TO JETTISON THOSE AMERICAN JOBS SOMEWHERE ELSE 21:16:24 AND THE WORKER NOT ONLY LOSES HIS JOB BUT HIS PENSION. 21:16:27 THAT'S CRIMINAL. IT'S WRONG, AND IF REPUBLICANS 21:16:29 DON'T STOP IT, WE DON'T DESERVE TO WIN IN 2008. 21:16:34 >> CONGRESSMAN TANCREDO, THIS READER REQUESTS A YES OR NO 21:16:38 ANSWER. WILL YOU WORK TO PROTECT 21:16:40 WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN FAIR WAGES AND REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE? 21:16:44 >> I WILL WORK TO PROTECT WOMEN'S RIGHTS. 21:16:48 THE REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE PART OF THAT IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY 21:16:51 IS IN REFERENCE TO ABORTION, THE RIGHT TO KILL ANOTHER 21:16:55 PERSON IS NOT A RIGHT THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH AND SUPPORT. 21:17:00 >> GOVERNOR THOMPSON, HOW MANY AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAVE LOST 21:17:07 THEIR LIVES IN THE IRAQ WAR AND HOW MANY HAVE BEEN INJURED TO 21:17:11 DATE? >> THERE HAS BEEN OVER 3,000 21:17:12 WHO HAVE LOST AND SEVERAL THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN INJURED AND 21:17:16 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE 21:17:19 POSSIBLY CAN TO GIVE OUR TROOPS THE NECESSARY DOLLARS, THE 21:17:23 RESOURCES, THE WEAPONS, AND THE ARMED FORCES IN ORDER TO 21:17:26 PROTECT THEMSELVES. IT'S A BOND THAT EVERY AMERICAN 21:17:29 HAS WITH OUR ARMED FORCES. ANYTIME AN AROUND SOLDIER IS IN 21:17:34 HARM'S WAY WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING TO PROTECT THEM. 21:17:38 >> WE'RE AT THE LAST ROUND. IT'S 30-SECOND RESPONSES. 21:17:42 START WITH MAYOR GIULIANI. SOMETHING WE COME OUT FOR, I 21:17:44 WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN AND DEFEND IT. 21:17:47 A NATIONAL TAMPER PROOF I.D. CARD. 21:17:50 >> THAT'S CRITICAL TO HAVING IMMIGRATION SECURITY. 21:17:53 EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO COMES IN SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED SHOULD 21:17:56 BE IN A DATABASE BASE, I PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST 21:18:00 EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH SECURITY. 21:18:01 I HAD TO TAKE A CITY THAT HAD A LOT CRIME AND REDUCE IT. 21:18:06 SO THE VERY BEST WAY TO SENSIBLY CREATE SECURITY IS TO 21:18:12 HAVE A TAMPER PROOF CARD AND A DATABASE AND BACK UP FROM 21:18:16 THERE. HOW DO WE GET THERE THAT WOULD 21:18:19 HAVE A TECHNOLOGICAL FENCE, HAVING PEOPLE COMING FORWARD 21:18:23 WHO ARE PAYING TAXES OR WANT TO PAY TAXES. 21:18:26 GOD BLESS THEM. >> I HAD THE OCCASION FOLLOWING 21:18:33 THE GREAT DISASTER OF 9/11 TO HELP ORGANIZE THE WINTERER 21:18:38 GAMES BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN SLARKS SALT LAKE CITY AND BRING 21:18:46 LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, COORDINATE THEM IN A 21:18:48 WAY THAT WE COULD COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. 21:18:51 AS WE DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION HAVING A NATIONAL SPECIAL CARD 21:18:54 THAT INDICATES A PERSON'S NAME, DATE, BIRTH DATE, BUY GRAPHIC 21:18:59 INFORMATION AND AN INDICATION OF THEIR WORK STATUS WILL TELL 21:19:04 US THAT INFORMATION. >> IS SOMEONE AGAINST THIS ON 21:19:08 GROUNDS? >> I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE 21:19:09 WAY TO GO AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THIS WAY. 21:19:13 I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE IMMIGRATION ISSUES. 21:19:15 WE NEED TO SECURE THE BORDER WITH A FENCE AND THEN 21:19:18 INTERIORWISE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOCIAL SECURITY 21:19:22 NUMBER MEANS SOMETHING. >> HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A 21:19:25 NATIONAL I.D. CARD IF IT WORKS? >> WE DON'T NEED A NEW SYSTEM 21:19:29 OR I.D. CARD. >> SENATOR MCCAIN ARE YOU FOR 21:19:32 TAMPER PROOF I.D. CARDS? >> THAT'S ONE OF THE 21:19:37 RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION. 21:19:38 AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WORK, THEY NEED A DOCUMENT THAT IS 21:19:41 TAMPER PROOF AND ANY EMPLOYER WHO EMPLOYEES SOMEBODY ELSE 21:19:47 WITH A FALSE CARD OR CERTIFICATE SHOULD BE 21:19:49 PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. 21:19:52 >> DR. PAUL. >> I'M OPPOSED TO IT. 21:19:54 THIS IS A TOTAL CONTRADICTION OF WHAT A FREE SOCIETY IS ALL 21:19:57 ABOUT. THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO 21:20:00 PROTECT THE SECRECY AND THE PRIVACY OF ALL INDIVIDUALS, NOT 21:20:04 THE SECRECY OF GOVERNMENT. WE DON'T NEED A NATIONAL I.D. 21:20:08 CARD. >> MR. TANCREDO, DO YOU AGREE 21:20:11 WITH THE NATIONAL TAMPER PROOF I.D. CARD? 21:20:14 >> I DO NOT THINK IT MUCH FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT DR. PAUL 21:20:17 SAID. WE NEED A VERIFIABLE SOCIAL 21:20:20 SECURITY CARD. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS. 21:20:22 WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE FORMER WITHOUT JAPAN DIESING RIGHTS. 21:20:29 >> -- JEOPARDIZING RIGHTS. >> LET ME GO THAT IT WOULD BE 21:20:36 PASSING AND DECIDED IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. 21:20:38 THIS ISN'T AS MUCH FUN AS CUTTING TAXES. 21:20:42 DO YOU THINK SCOOTER LIBBY SHOULD BE PARDONED? 21:20:45 >> GOVERNOR. >> I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY WHO 21:20:47 IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT LET ALONE SOMEONE WHO IS PRESIDENT 21:20:49 SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL THE JUDICIAL PROCESS IS 21:20:53 COMPLETE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I THINK IT 21:20:55 WAS OUTRAGEOUS FOR THE PROSECUTOR KNOWING THAT SCOOTER 21:20:58 LIBBY WAS NOT THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK TO INTERVIEW HIM, 21:21:01 GATHERING INFORMATION AND SETTING UP A CASE, IT WAS 21:21:05 PROSECUTORIAL INDISCRETION. THE NATIONAL I.D. CARD IS FOR 21:21:09 ALIENS, NOT FOR CITIZENS. IT'S FOR THOSE WHO COME HERE 21:21:12 OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. >> MAYOR, YOU WANT IT FOR 21:21:15 EVERYONE? >> I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE 21:21:18 COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES. >> THAT WILL BE INTERESTING HOW 21:21:22 THAT IS. LET ME GO TO SENATOR, DO YOU 21:21:25 THINK SCOOTER LIBBY SHOULD BE -- 21:21:27 >> LET THE LEGAL PROCESS MOVE FORWARD AND I LEAVE THAT UP TO 21:21:30 PRESIDENT BUSH. >> THE JUDGE IS GOING TO RULE 21:21:31 ON THAT CASE NEXT MONTH AND DECIDE WHETHER HE WILL BE 21:21:35 IMPRISONNED DURING HIS APPEAL? >> I'D LEAVE THAT UP TO THE 21:21:39 PRESIDENT. AT THE END OF THE TERM HE 21:21:41 DECIDES TO LET HIM OUT. >> YOU DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM TO 21:21:45 APPEAL? >> I WOULD SEE WILLINGNESS TO 21:21:47 GO EITHER WAY ON THIS BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING FACTS ON THIS 21:21:51 CASE ARE THERE WAS NOT A LAW THAT WAS VIOLATED. 21:21:54 THEY'RE SAYING IS OK, YOU DIDN'T REMEMBER RIGHT AND 21:21:57 THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE BEING PROSECUTED AND FOUND GUILTY 21:22:01 FOR. >> DO NO PORTIONS SO FAR. 21:22:03 >> NOT YET. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH 21:22:08 THESE PAPERS WITH RESPECT TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, NOT WITH 21:22:11 RESPECT TO ALL AMERICANS. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A NATIONAL 21:22:14 I.D. CARD. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DIFFUSE 21:22:16 ACROSS THE STATES. WITH RESPECT TO SCOOTER LIBBY I 21:22:19 WAS AN ELECTED PROSECUTOR, I HANDLED MANY CASES MYSELF AND 21:22:22 MANAGED OTHERS. THE LAW HAS TO APPLY WITHIN THE 21:22:25 DISCRETION OF THE PROSECUTOR. IF A PRESIDENT IS GOING TO 21:22:29 EXERCISE, WHICH I HAVE BY THE WAY DONE MYSELF AS A CHIEF 21:22:33 EXECUTIVE PARTS, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS HIGH PROFILE 21:22:36 AS IT IS, YOU GO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND MAKE YOUR 21:22:39 CASE AS TO WHY THAT KIND OF DISCRETION OUGHT TO BE APPLIED. 21:22:41 IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT CASE, HE SHOULDN'T DO IT. 21:22:44 >> YOU DON'T WANT ANOTHER MARK RICH? 21:22:47 >> WHAT? >> NEVER MIND. 21:22:49 DOES ANYONE WANT TO RAISE HIS HAND AND SAY PARDON HIM? 21:22:56 OK >> THERE R-TWO PEOPLE SERVING 21:23:02 PRISON TIME FOR ACTUALLY DOING THEIR TIMETONNED BORDER. 21:23:05 >> DR. PAUL, DO YOU WANT TO PARDON HIM. 21:23:08 >> HE DOESN'T IMMEDIATE A PARDON. 21:23:12 HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE MISINFORMATION THAT LET THE 21:23:14 CONGRESS AND THE PEOPLE TO SUPPORT A WAR THAT WE DIDN'T 21:23:17 NEED TO BE IN. >> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION 21:23:20 WHICH HAS GRABBED A LOT OF AMERICAN'S PERSONALLY. 21:23:23 THE SHIVEO CASE. IT WAS A QUESTION WHETHER THE 21:23:27 UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE INTERVENED AND PASSED A LAW TO 21:23:29 ADVISE THE APPELLATE COURT WHETHER TO ACT OR NOT. 21:23:34 SHOULD CONGRESS HAVE ACTED OR LET THE FAMILY MADE THE 21:23:38 DECISION? >> I THINK WE SHOULD GENERALLY 21:23:41 LET THE FAMILY MAKE THE DECISION OF THIS NATURE. 21:23:42 >> THE HUSBAND SHOULD HAVE DECIDED. 21:23:44 >> GENERALLY WE SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION AND THE CASE HERE 21:23:46 THE COURTS DECIDED WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO 21:23:50 DO AND JEB BUSH AND THE LEGISLATURE DID THE THING BUT 21:23:56 THE DECISION OF CONGRESS GETTING INVOLVED WAS A MISTAKE. 21:23:58 THE CONGRESS'S JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT LAWS ARE RESPECTING 21:24:02 THE SANCTITY OF LIFE BUT TO ADD JUDE INDICATE A CASE LIKE THIS, 21:24:07 IT SHOULD BE DOWN BY THE GOVERNOR. 21:24:09 >> SHOULD CONGRESS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED? 21:24:11 >> YES, IT SHOULD HAVE AND IT GAVE HER THE RIGHT AND THE 21:24:13 FAMILY THE RIGHT TO TAKE THAT APPEAL TO THE COURT. 21:24:16 THAT'S WHAT THE CONGRESS DID. AND HER LIFE IS SACRED. 21:24:20 EVEN IF IT'S THAT DIFFICULT MOMENT THAT SHE'S IN AT THAT 21:24:23 POINT IN TIME, THAT LIFE IS SACRED AND WE SHOULD STAND FOR 21:24:26 LIFE IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. >> SENATOR MCCAIN, WAS CONGRESS 21:24:28 RIGHT IN INTERVENING IN THAT CASE? 21:24:31 >> IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE. 21:24:33 ALL OF US WERE DEEPLY MOVED BY THE PICTURES AND THE DEPICTION 21:24:36 OF THIS TERRIBLE TRAGIC CASE. IN RETROSPECT, WE SHOULD HAVE 21:24:40 TAKEN SOME MORE TIME AND LOOKED AT IT MORE CAREFULLY AND 21:24:43 PROBABLY WE ACTED TOO HASTILY. >> MAYOR, WAS THAT A GOOD THING 21:24:47 FOR CONGRESS TO DO? >> THE FAMILY WAS IN DISPUTE. 21:24:49 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE COURTS FOR. AND THE BETTER PLACE TO DECIDE 21:24:53 THAT IN A MUCH FAIRER AND A DEEPER WAY IS IN FRONT A COURT. 21:24:58 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION -- I WANT TO GET TO THE NEXT 21:25:02 QUESTION BECAUSE YOU CAN EXPAND ON YOUR THOUGHT AS PART OF THIS 21:25:05 ANSWER. I ASKED ABOUT RAISING TAXES AND 21:25:07 IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THE REAGAN ROUND HERE, EVERYONE WANTED TO 21:25:11 DO THAT. I'M SURE HE WAS LISTENING TO 21:25:12 THAT GOOD THOUGHT. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING 21:25:15 ELSE THAT MIGHT BE A NEGATIVE IN THE UPCOMING CAMPAIGN. 21:25:19 WOULD IT BE GOOD FOR AMERICA TO HAVE BILL CLINTON BACK LIVING 21:25:23 IN THE WHITE HOUSE? >> YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. 21:25:28 >> NO, I'M NOT. HIS WIFE IS RUNNING. 21:25:31 >> THE ONLY THING THAT I COULD THINK OF THAT WOULD BE AS BAD 21:25:34 AS THAT IS HAVE THE GANG OF THREE RUNNING THE WAR ON 21:25:38 TERROR, PELOSI, REID, AND HILLARY CLINTON. 21:25:40 SO I HAVE BEEN HONEST WOULD YOU, IT WOULD BE AN ALL OF 21:25:44 THING -- AWFUL THING FOR A LOT OF REASONS. 21:25:47 >> HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE ELECTED NOT BECAUSE OF WHO SHE 21:25:49 IS BUT BECAUSE OF THE POLICIES THAT SHE STANDS FOR, RAISING 21:25:53 TAXES, OF NOT STANDING UP FOR LIFE OR MARRIAGE, THOSE ARE 21:25:56 WHAT WOULD BE BAD. >> GOVERNOR, BILL CLINTON BACK 21:26:00 IN THE WHITE HOUSE? >> NO, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN 21:26:03 THAT HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 21:26:05 AND WHERE YOU'VE BEEN IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND SHE 21:26:08 TRIED TO SOCIALIZE MEDICINE IN THIS COUNTRY, A VERY BAD IDEA. 21:26:11 YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND YET SHE SAID 21:26:14 IN THE ONLY -- >> WE HAVE A RAISOR BACK TO 21:26:19 TALK. SHOULD THEY COME BACK AND BILL? 21:26:22 >> NO ONE ON THIS STAGE KNOWS HILLARY CLINTON BETTER THAN I 21:26:25 DO AND I WILL TELL YOU IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE EITHER OF 21:26:28 THEM IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> BILL CLINTON CUT THE U.S. 21:26:32 ARMY BY ALMOST 50% IN THIS WAR AGAINST TERROR. 21:26:35 HE'S THE WRONG GUY TO HAVE IN THERE. 21:26:38 AND ON THE OTHER CASE, RONALD REAGAN SAID ON THE QUESTION OF 21:26:41 LIFE, WHEN THERE IS A QUESTION, ERR ON THE SIDE OF LIFE. 21:26:44 I THINK CONGRESS DID THE RIGHT THING. 21:26:47 >> GOVERNOR, SHOULD BILL CLINTON BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE 21:26:50 BE GOOD FOR AMERICA? IT IS A POSSIBILITY HERE. 21:26:52 >> A BAD POSSIBILITY. NO NATIONAL I.D. AND THE 21:26:58 MEDICAL CASE SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE STATES AND BILL CLINTON 21:27:01 SHOULD NOT BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND WE CERTAINLY SHOULD 21:27:03 NOT ELECT ANY DEMOCRAT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, ONE OF US HERE 21:27:06 SHOULD BE. >> GOOD CLEAN-UP HITTING THERE. 21:27:10 SENATOR. >> NO, BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY 21:27:12 WOULD MEAN THAT SENATOR CLINTON IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED 21:27:15 STATES AND WE DON'T WANT THAT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WOULD MEAN 21:27:19 THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AND OTHER JUDGES 21:27:24 WOULD TAKE A SHARP TURN TO THE LEFT. 21:27:26 ONE OF OUR GREATEST PROBLEMS IN AMERICA TODAY IS JUSTICES THAT 21:27:30 LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH, I'M PROUD THAT WE HAVE JUSTICE 21:27:33 ALITO AND ROBERTS ON THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. 21:27:36 I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE PLAYED A SMALL ROLE IN MAKING THAT 21:27:39 HAPPEN. >> DR. PAUL. 21:27:40 >> I AM KNOWN FOR STICKING TO PRINCIPAL AND NOT 21:27:44 FLIP-FLOPPING. I VOTED TO IMPEACH HIM. 21:27:48 >> MAYOR GIULIANI. >> IT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WERE 21:27:50 BACK ON DEFENSE AGAINST TERRORISM GIVEN SENATOR 21:27:53 CLINTON'S RECENT POSITIONS AND THE REALITY IS IN THE 1990'S WE 21:27:57 WERE ON DEFENSE IN DEALING WITH TERRORISM. 21:28:00 WHEN YOU HAD THIS DEBATE LAST WEEK AND ALL THE DEMOCRATS WERE 21:28:02 UP HERE, I NEVER REMEMBER THE WORDS ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST 21:28:07 TERRORISM BEING SPOKEN BY ANY OF THEM. 21:28:09 >> MR. TANCREDO, LAST THOUSAND. >> I KNOW HE IS PRESENTLY 21:28:13 MEASURING THE DRAPES OVER IN THE OVAL OFFICE, BUT NO, IT'S A 21:28:18 LOUSY IDEA. >> YOU THINK HE'S MEASURING THE 21:28:21 DRAPES. LET ME START WITH THE QUESTION. 21:28:23 IF YOU WANT TO PASS, PLEASE PASS. 21:28:26 EVERY PRESIDENT IF YOU LOOK BACK WAS ELECTED TO FILL THE 21:28:29 PROBLEMS OF THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT. 21:28:31 WE ARE CORRECTING ALL THE TIME IN THIS COUNTRY. 21:28:34 HOW WILL YOU BE DIFFERENT IN ANY WAY FROM PRESIDENT GEORGE 21:28:37 W. BUSH? >> WE'RE EACH OUR OWN PERSON. 21:28:39 WE HAVE OUR OWN VALUES. I RESPECT THE PRESIDENT'S 21:28:42 CHARACTER, HIS PASSION, HIS LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 21:28:45 I BELIEVE EVERYTHING HE DOES IN THIS CAR AGAINST TERROR FLOWS 21:28:47 FROM A DESIRE TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO MAKE OUR 21:28:50 FUTURE SECURE. BUT I WILL GO TO WORK NOT ONLY 21:28:52 TO WIN THE WAR ON TERROR AS IT RELATES TO IRAQ AND 21:28:55 AFGHANISTAN, BUT ON A GLOBAL BASIS, NOT ONLY WITH A STRONG 21:28:59 MILITARY. WE NEED MORE TROOPS AND MORE 21:29:02 MILITARY SPENDING BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO STRENGTHEN 21:29:04 OUR ECONOMY AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN THE 21:29:06 PRIVATE SECTOR ALL HIS LIFE CAN PROTECT JOBS AND FINALLY 21:29:10 STRENGTHEN THE AMERICAN FAMILY. THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO DO. 21:29:12 >> SENATOR MCCAIN. >> I WOULD NOT HAVE MISMANAGED 21:29:15 THE WAR. IT WAS BADLY MISMANAGED FOR 21:29:17 FOUR YEARS. WE A NEW STRATEGY THAT I THINK 21:29:20 AND PRAY EVERY NIGHT WILL SUCCEED. 21:29:23 I WOULD HAVE VETOED SPENDING BILL AFTER SPENDING BILL AFTER 21:29:28 PORK BARREL PROJECT IN THE TRADITION OF PRESIDENT REAGAN. 21:29:31 >> MR. GILMORE. >> CHRIS, THIS CAMPAIGN IS 21:29:34 ABOUT THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES AND THERE ARE 21:29:36 AT LEAST FOUR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 21:29:38 WE NEED TO BE VIGOROUS ON THE WAR ON TERROR AND WE NEED TO 21:29:41 DRAW OTHER PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD TO US AS WE ADDRESS IT. 21:29:44 HOMELAND SECURITY HAS GOT TO BECOME AN ENTIRE EFFORT OF AN 21:29:48 ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF THE UNITED STATES AND WE HAVE NOT YET 21:29:50 ACHIEVED THAT. >> MR. HUCKABEE WE HAVE TO 21:29:53 MOVE. >> I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A 21:29:55 SHOT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 21:29:56 WENT TO A PLACE WHERE THE STATES HAD MORE POWER AND NOT 21:29:59 CENTRAL LIES IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 21:30:02 THAT'S BEEN A MISTAKE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. 21:30:04 A HUGE MISTAKE. AND WE NEED TO HONOR THE 10TH 21:30:07 EAFMENT AND REMEMBER THAT WE ARE A NATION OF STRONG STATES 21:30:11 AND WEAK FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> WE WON WORLD WAR II, WORLD 21:30:18 WAR I AND THE COLD WAR. WE'RE LOSING OUR INDUSTRIAL 21:30:21 BASE THROUGH BAD TRADE POLICY RIGHT NOW. 21:30:24 CHINA IS CHEATING ON TRADE. I WOULD ENFORCE TRADE LAWS 21:30:26 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING. 21:30:29 >> I'D PUSH MORE A POLITICAL SOLUTION ALONG WITH A MILITARY 21:30:32 SOLUTION IN IRAQ AND HERE I WOULD PUSH A THREE STATE, ONE 21:30:36 CONCURRENT SOLUTION WITH IRAQ. BAGHDAD IS THE CENTRAL CITY. 21:30:42 WE'VE GOT TO PUSH A POLITICAL SOLUTION ALONG WITH THE 21:30:45 MILITARY TO GET TO A STABLE SITUATION IN IRAQ WHICH IS OUR 21:30:48 KEY POLITICAL ISSUE OF THE DAY. >> MR. TANCREDO. 21:30:52 >> THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE MANY GOOD THINGS AND I'M PROUD OF 21:30:55 HIM FOR IT. ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES, 21:30:58 ESPECIALLY NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND, THE MEDICARE 21:31:00 PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL, THESE THINGS WERE OVER ARCHING AND 21:31:06 REACHING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 21:31:07 IN TERMS OF IRAQ, IT'S TIME, YOU KNOW, FRANKLIN SAID IN 1727 21:31:12 THAT HE WANTED TO -- COULD I PLEASE -- 21:31:16 >> GOVERNOR THOMPSON PLEASE. >> I WOULD TRANSFORM THE HEALTH 21:31:20 CARE SYSTEM A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE PRESIDENT IS TALKING 21:31:23 ABOUT. I WOULD SET UP A PEACEFUL WAY 21:31:26 TO SETTLE THE SITUATION IN IRAQ BY ALLOWING THE IRAQIS TO ELECT 21:31:30 THEIR OWN LEADERS IN THE STATES AND BE ABLE TO SPLIT THE OIL 21:31:33 REVENUES. I WOULD SET UP MEDICAL AND 21:31:41 EDUCATIONAL DIPLOMA SI TO BE INVOLVED IN OUR FOREIGN 21:31:46 RELATIONS. >> ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 WE 21:31:47 THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE ATTACKED MANY TIMES BETWEEN 21:31:50 THEN AND NOW. WE HAVEN'T BEEN. 21:31:52 I BELIEVE WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO MADE THE RIGHT DECISION AT 21:31:54 THE RIGHT TIME ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2001 TO PUT US ON OFFENSE 21:31:59 AGAINST TERRORISTS. HISTORY WILL REMEMBER HIM FOR 21:32:01 THAT AND WE AS REPUBLICANS SHOULD REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT. 21:32:03 >> DR. PAUL. >> I CERTAINLY WOULD CONTINUE 21:32:06 ON MY EARLIER THEME THAT FOREIGN POLICY NEEDS TO BE 21:32:10 CHANGED. MR. REPUBLICAN, REPORTER TAFT, 21:32:13 WE HAVE A STATUE OF HIM IN WASHINGTON. 21:32:18 I WOULD WORK VERY HARD TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF AMERICAN 21:32:21 CITIZENS BEING VERY, VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT WARRANTLESS 21:32:23 SEARCHES AND I WOULD GUARANTEE THAT I WOULD NEVER ABUSE HABEAS 21:32:27 CORPUS. >> THIS IS HARDLY THE END OF 21:32:30 THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OR EVEN THE BEGINNING OF THE 21:32:34 END BUT IT IS AT LEAST THE END OF THE BEGINNING. 21:32:36 THIS DEBATE AIRS AGAIN TONIGHT ON MSNBC AT 11:00 EASTERN TIME. 21:32:42 I'LL JOIN KEITH OLBERMANN ON MSNBC FOR A COMPLETE DEBATE 21:32:45 ANALYSIS AND COVERAGE AS THE CAMPAIGN HEADS TO THE SPIN 21:32:48 ROOM. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE, 21:32:50 ESPECIALLY MRS. RONALD REAGAN AND THE REAGAN LIBRARY. 21:32:56 [APPLAUSE] >> A FEW TRIP-UPS, A FEW 21:33:12 LAUGHS, PERHAPS FOR IRAN AND IRAQ. 21:33:14 CERTAINLY MORE IRAN THAN IRAQ THAT WE EXPECTED AND PERHAPS 21:33:18 SOME CRITICISM. >> THANKS TO THE PEOPLE OF NBC 21:33:24 NEWS AND MSNBC AND THANKS TO THE 10 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL 21:33:28 CANDIDATES HERE TONIGHT. FROM THE RONALD REAGAN 21:33:31 PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY, GOOD NIGHT. 21:33:34 [APPLAUSE] >> AND NO MATTER THE 21:33:44 CANDIDATES, NO MATTER THE PARTY, CHRIS MATTHEWS WILL 21:33:48 ALWAYS HAVE THE LAST WORD. A FEW TRIP-UPS, A FEW LAUGHS, 21:33:54 MORE IRAN THAN IRAQ PERHAPS, MORE CRITICISM BUT NOT BY NAME 21:33:58 OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S POLICIES IN IRAQ. 21:34:02 AND THOSE OPEN QUESTIONS, WHO LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL, WHO DID 21:34:05 NOT, WHO GOT THEIR POINTS ACROSS, WHO SEEMED TO BE TRYING 21:34:07 TOO HARD TO GET THEIR POINTS ACROSS. 21:34:10 YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING THE FIRST IN THE NATION REPUBLICAN 21:34:14 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DEBATE HERE AT THE RONALD REAGAN IN 21:34:19 SIMI VALLEY, CALIFORNIA. CHRIS MATTHEWS WILL BE JOINING 21:34:22 US AFTER THE HANDSHAKES AND BACK SLAPS. 21:34:25 I'M KEITH OLBERMANN ABOVE THE CROWD AND ABOVE THE FRAY 21:34:29 ALONGSIDE THE "CHICAGO TRIBUNE"'S JILL AND 21:34:32 "NEWSWEEK"'S HOWARD AND WE BID YOU A GOOD EVENING FROM THE 21:34:37 LIBRARY. THERE ARE MANY OF THE HUGE 21:34:39 POINTS AND MANY EXTRAORDINARY POLICY STATEMENTS THAT WE HEARD 21:34:42 HERE, WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 21:34:45 90 MINUTES. BUT THE BIGGEST POINT, WHO 21:34:47 LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL, WHO SOUNDED PRESIDENTIAL, WHO DID 21:34:51 NOT? >> I THINK THAT RUDY GIULIANI 21:34:54 DID NOT QUITE. HE CAME IN AS THE FRONTRUNNER. 21:34:57 I THINK THIS WAS NOT A SITUATION THAT HE COULD 21:34:58 DOMINATE AND HE DIDN'T DOMINATE IT BECAUSE HE HAD TO TALK ABOUT 21:35:02 ABORTION, STEM CELL RESEARCH, A LOT OF SOCIAL ISSUES THAT HE 21:35:05 WAS NOT ON FIRM TURF WITH

FTG FOR COVERAGE OF THE CASEY ANTHONY MURDER TRIAL / SWITCHED POOL NOTE: JUDGE'S COMMENTS WHERE APPLICABLE ARE IN ALL CAPS. EVERYONE ELSE IS IN lower case. 8:34:00 JUDGE BEGINS HEARING ON CASEY'S SIX FELONIES 8:35:10 - prosecution talks about pg 79 of transcripts, talks about reputed father of caylee. if it's offered as another false statement, we'd withdraw our request. we were concerned about it because the court said any heresay statements had to be proffered so we don't know why that wasn't done. i take it from the context that all of these statements were being added in the same vain. talks about heresay regarding baker and hopkins. 8:38:45 - JUDGE REFERENCES FROM HUGGINS VS. STATE AND FISHER VS. STATE. GONZALEZ VS. STATE. BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU ELICIT HERESAY STATEMENTS BECAUSE THE AFTER SHOCK CAN HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT. 8:41:55 - ANNOUNCES RECESS. 9:04:30 - judge returns. 9:05:30 - amy huizenga returns to the stand 9:05:50 - jury returns CROSS EXAMINATION BEGINS 9:07:10 - yesterday you said you were friends with casey? that is correct. not for long though? correct. so we're talking about five months? yes. a majority of your relationship you communicated via text? or phone calls. did you tell police you texted daily? yes i gave them all my messages. approaches witness 9:09:10 - these are texts from april 24 to july? yes. you gave them to police? correct. it practically covers entire time you knew casey? a little after but yeah. a couple of messages admitted yesterday ....that's all you do is text right? yes. its common for young people to live on the phone as they say? that's correct. so this is a pretty good representation of your relationship with casey? its a good picture. 9:10:45 - the text messages that were admitted, referring to state exhibit 58, there's only one that refers to casey's mother watching cayle and her wanting to go out? i havent read thru them all but that's what's been submitted. but there are numerous messages from you asking casey to go out? i'm sure there are. and there are times casey gives other excuses why she can't go out? correct. so you don't know her motivation for not wanting to go out? correct. you talked about caseys relationship with cindy but you didnt know casey that long? correct. i testified to what i was told. do you have a vast knowledge of the relationship between cindy and casey? it was one sided. and you only knew casey for five months? time isn't relative, when you get to know someone. and the majority of your relationship was thru texts? or phone calls. 9:13:40 - you testified about the smell of the car? correct. but there's only one text about the smell? correct. is it fair to say your memory may have been fogged? it was a long time ago. correct. you were drinking heavily in those days? i wouldnt' say heavily i'd go out with friends. i'd say three or four nights a week. and you'd drink? not significantly. i would drink. you told jury you crashed your car due to drinking? i don't think that's relevant, i sobered up, i nodded off legitimately, it's a long, boring stretch of road. is that the only time you crashed? from falling asleep, yes. 9:16:20 - looks at paperwork. reads her text: I hit a guard rail ....objection 9:17:45 - APPROACH 9:22:20 - objection sustained. baez asks for moment. 9:22:45- you totaled your car? self totaled it. the air bag blew? yes. bloody nose? just a littel crusty. a head injury? no. did you sent text asking for people to call you in case you passed out? looks at notes in front of her. i said i don't know if i hit my head. and that's because you didn't have bearing straight? no, never been hit with an air bag. so you were fine? yes. did that affect your memory? no. did you see a doctor? no. 9:24:45 - you said yesterday that casey dated ricardo? correct. after she finished with ricardo she dated tony? correct. and then you moved in with ricardo? correct. you met jesse after july 15? correct. he was casey's former fiancee? correct. after july 15 you went out with jesse? we struck up a friendship. we met a few times to discuss casey and case. are there any boyfriends of caseys you went out with? objection ....did you tell ricardo you wanted to meet a nice christian boy? yes ...objection, relevancy 9:26:20 - were you at the anthony home on june 16? no but you talked to casey? yes. is there anything you can tell jury about what happend to caylee? no i cannot. AMY ASKS JUDGE IS SHE CAN SAY SOMETHING.SIDEBAR 9:34:50 - amy walks over to sidebar 9:37:50 - amy leaves and walks out. END OF CROSS EXAMINATION, NO REDIRECT LEE ANTHONY CALLED TO STAND 9:39:30 - he's 28, not currently working, lives in orlando, casey is sister. back in 2008, in june july were you living with your parents? no sir. how far away were you? not even five minutes. did you have regular contact with casey? every couple weeks or so. on june 16, 2009 to july 3d, did you have any contact with casey? yes. when? there was a quick myspace message at one point in middle of june just to say hey and i spoke to her numersous times on 23 of july 9:41:15 - did there come a time at beginning of july you went to see your mom? yes sir. why? i was asked to by my mom. why? i went because she asked me and she said she needed to see me. when you saw her did she ask for help? not at that time, but she did express ...objection, sustained. on july 3 or 2008 were you aware your sister and niece had not been home for a while? my mother made me aware, yes. 9:43:30 - what did you do on july 3? if i recall, i wasn't at mom's house on july 3, i just spoke to her on phone. were you aware your mom created a myspasce page? not at the time. did you help her set it up? no sir, don't believe i did. did you investigate on your own where yor sister might be? yes. i went on to myspace to try to find her and eventually thru facebook i figured out where she would be that evening. where? downtown orlando at a nightclub called dragon room. what did you do? decided i was going to go and i asked a friend to go with me. do you know mallorie parker? yes. did she go with you on jul 3? she met me and my friend down there. what time did you go? about 9, 10 at latest. 9:44:45 - did you try to get a hold of casey? yes, when it became clear she wasn't going to show up. 9:45:20 - did you ask mallorie to send texts to casey? yes after i was unsuccessful. i told her don't make it clear i was with her. did you go anywhere else? no i did not. how long did you try to text casey? about an hour. did you leave messages every time? probably. did casey ever pick up? yes. what did you say? where are you at, do you want to meet up. what did she say? i'm busy, i'm out with friends, talk to you later. did she hang up on you? numerous times, yes. did you talk to casey this night? yes. did you ask her where she was? yes. what did she say? she said she was in jacksonville. what was your response? i knew it was a lie so i kept questioning her. what did she say? that i'm out with a friend, i'm at a country western bar. did you call her out? yes. i said i know you're in town, i know you're going to the dragon room. where are you. did you ask about caylee? yes. she said caylee was being watched. 9:49:10 - did you ask her who this friend was? don't believe i did. when you called her out and said you knew she wasn't in jax, what was her repsonse? casey said i was wrong. what did she tell you? that she was in jax. how did it end? i believe i said she needed to talk to mom and i think she hung up on me. did you say your mother was worried? yes i did. that she was worried about caylee? sustained. did you tell her her the family was worried? i said they're worried about you guys. were you worreid? at that juncture, yes. what did casey say? everything's fine. i'll talk to mom tomorrow. she hung up on you? that's what i recall. did you try to call back? numerous times. i dont believe i spoke with her again on july 3. 9:51:55 - did you continue to look for her downtown? i did. where? i stayed on that stretch of church street. i went to a few other bars pretty close by. did you see her? no. what time did you leave? little after 2. after july 3, did you learn she'd been gone? yes, my mom said ...objection 9:53:30 - did you come to learn that no one had seen caylee, casey? yes. on july 3 to july 15, did you try to find casey and caylee? don't bleieve i did. why? my mom asked me not to. 9:54:45 - did you see your mom bet. july 4-15? i don't think i did. did you talk to her? yes. what was your mom's demeanor? that was when she asked me not to pursue this. she was determined, she had it under control. do you recall your deposition on july 30. 2009? yes. do you remember me asking about how your mom was acting? objection. may i approach witness. 9:57:20 - approaches lee 9:57:55 - does that help refresh your recollection? no. my recollection is the same as i expressed in previous question. when did you see sister gain? july 15. where? at my parents house. why were you there? my dad called me. what time did you get there? about 8. when you got there, was anyone home? no. do you have a key? if i did i didn't use it. how did you get in? i used the garage door, saw my old pontiac sunfire. what did you notice? a smell that windows were down, writing on the windshield. what do you recall about smell? just that it was very potent, strong. 10:00:40 - was it offensive? yes. did you approach the car? had to walk by it to get to door, not by choice. when did someone arrive at the home? less that five min. who arrived? my mother and sister. what is first thing casey said? upon entering the house, she would have been in her room after she entered so i don't recall the exact words. approaches witness 10:02:30 - what did casey say? that she wasn't sure why she bothered, no one was listening to her. what was casey's demeanor? combative. your mom? equally if not more so combative. you said casey went to her room? yes. did you follow? yes. in the bedroom, did you enter it ...? stood in doorway. where was mom? in bedroom as well. continueing their discussion. what did casey say? she talked about the location of where caylee was, she said she was with the nanny. at this moment did you know about the nanny? no. didn't know casey used a nanny. what was casey's explanation about where caylee was? she was with nanny, she was already asleep for evening and didn't want to disturb her. do you recall comments casey made about caylees routine? yes, this is what she's been used to and i don't want to change that. 10:05:40 - did that make sense to you? maybe from a routine standpoint, but not from appeasing my mother and getting my child back that should be her train of thought. approaches witness. 10:06:50 - do you recall what you said at deposition with regard to casey? yes, i referenced caylee's routine was approx. three weeks at that time. how long were you and mom and sister arguing in bedroom? a couple minutes. it was throughout the evening, but at that juncture it was a couple minutes. what did casey say about getting caylee? tomorrow. was it always tomorrow? it seemd that way. did you offer to get caylee that night? yes, I said i could go get caylee, i could have my roommate go get caylee. casey's response? at one point she was receptive to it, but for the most part she said i don't want to disturb her, and mom won't allow it. 10:09:30 - 15 MINUTE RECESS 10:27:30 - lee anthony returns to stand 10:28:40 - do you remember asking casey about when you all could see caylee? yes. her response? i don't recall, it was along the lines of she's asleep, we'll get her tomorrow. askes lee about statements given to officer on july 29. what did you tell officer? i don't recall. approaches witness with deposition. 10:29:50 - defense asks for approach, no. 10:30: 10 - what did you say to detective on the 29th? yes. objection. APPROACH 10:33;20 - when you asked your sister why she won't you allow us to see caylee. what did you tell the deective she said? she said because maybe i'm a spiteful bitch. during this time frame, your mom came and went from the bedroom? correct. when your mom was away from the room, did you try to reason with your sister? yes. did you ask her what's going on? yes. what did she say? at one point she said that caylee was missing, that someone had kidnapped her. initially, what did she say about your mom? i don't recall. approaches witness. 10:36:40 - what did you tell det. edwards? when my mom would leave, and i would tell casey talk to me, she did express that her and my mother had ....objection. sustained. judge: don't tell us what your mother said. APPROACH? YES. 10:45:40 - lee reads his testimony. objection. overruled. do you recall the statment you just read? yes. can you tell jury what casey told you in that bedroom? from what i remember, ...not paraphrase, what she exactly said to you? objection, overruled. 10:47:10 - what did casey tell you exactly, verbatim? verbatim, word for word i do not. approaches witness. 10:48:10 - judge talks about past recollection.some procedural move based on that 10:48:40 - what did casey tell you? she told me my mother had numerous times thrown it in casey's faces that casey was an unfit mother for caylee and that casey says maybe I am. i went on to say that my mother had also referenced caylee as being a mistake, but the best mistake casey's ever made. are you getting frustrated with casey? yes. nothing was making sense to me. how? why didn't anyone go get caylee there's no reason to fight with mom at this point. did you ask casey what's in it for you? yes. what did she say? don't recall. WE LOST SIGNAL FROM COURTROOM DUE TO WEATHER, TIMECODE WILL BE OFF BY ABOUT EIGHT SECONDS 10:51:10 - SIDEBAR 10:57:30 - what did she say? at that time se told me that she had not seen caylee in 31 days, that she had been kidnapped and that the nanncy took her. what was the name you got? zenaida gonzales. before july 13, had you heard that name before? no. casey was specific about number of days? very specific. was mom present? not until tail end. what was cindy's reax? she knew something had been discussed when she wasnt there and she wasnt happy. what did she say? what did you do, we could have found her ....motion to strike, jury disregard 10:59:58 - is your father at the house? no. did you have any other conversation with casey before police arrived? yes. i said where was the last place you saw caylee. what did she say? sawgrass apts and i also asked her where she'd been staying. she said? with tony lazzaro at his apt. was she looking for caylee? yes. she had been trying to find her herself. did she say how? later in evening she did. what did she do? said she camped out at the last place she saw caylee. watching the place. how long did she do this? i dont recall, couple days. any other searches? she said she would go places she thought caylee could be like a store or park. did casey say when she had last spoken to caylee? she at one time described a phone call she received. it was on july 15? i believe so. what did she say about conversation with caylee? she told me that the only person on other end was caylee and don't remember if caylee said anything. casey said put and adult on the phone. 11:03:10 - did you ask casey why she hadn't told anyone casey was missing? i don't believe i did. upon hearing this news about caylee missing, what did you do? I asked her some of those follow up questions and immediately tried to locate her. you went into search mode? yes. you got the name of casey's boyfriend? yes. did you call lazzaro? yes i did. did you go see him? yes i did. when? if not that evening it was early hours of 16th. where? at his apt. while there, did you tell them what was going on? yes. did you receive any items? yes, casey's belongings ...laptop, duffle bag full of clothes, backpack, another bag. do you recall anything about the laptop? yes, it was on but it was a blue screen. are you computer saavy? yes sir. what did blue screen indicate? a virus, something wrong. did you try to reboot it? yes, as soon as i did it went to the same blue screen. 11:06:10 - I turned it off and took it with me. 11:07:40 - given envelope, says he recognizes items. APPROACH, SIDEBAR 11:18:30 - do you recognize what they are? yes. they are receipts, movie ticket stubs, a copy of a note of mine. how many receipts are there? a dozen give or take. can you count them? yes. i count 19. did you come into possession of those? i never had possession of these, no. where were they? they were in one of caseys belongings that i got from lazzaros apt. you brought them to parents house? yes. did you look at them that night? no, didnt know of their existence then. during one of our family sit downs with police, they were offered anyting that was in her bags. 11:21:20 - how many bags did you take from tonys apt? three. you referenced backpack? yes, it was one of three. did you empty contents at parents house? no. were you present when they were opened> yes. which bag were receipts in? had to be in the back pack. SIGNAL LOSS DUE TO WEATHER ? 11:23:03- was your dad home? yes. did dad arrive same time as police? slightly before ...a few minutes. after police arrived did you talk to casey? yes i did. in the garage was the car still there? yes. did it still semeell bad> yes sir. what di you take to casey about? i asked her just additional questions, she told me about phonce call she had that day with cayleee. i asked her some questions about tony. i aslo referenced how awful the garabe adn the car smelled. tough to say in garagewith that car? yes sir. when you got the items from tony lazzaro's, did you see anything that belonged to caylee? i dont believe so. CROSS EXAMINATION 11:27:50 - you are caseys older brother? correct. back to july 3rd, that evening, you said you got two phonce calls from you mom? initally i may have gotten one. during that call, there was no mention of caylee being missing? correct. did your mlther call your father to find casey:? i have no idea. on july 3, you left for chicago until the 15th? i dont remember exactly when i think it was more june. i defnintely didnt leave on 3rd, i was downtown. from june 15 to july 3 you saw your mom one time? yes that's about right. on july 15 2008 you said you were present when mom called police? yes. at that time you didn't belive a crime had been committed? sustained. the sunfire had some white writing on it? correct. writing was from the tow company? yes. the pontiac in garage, that was car that casey drove? correct. and your father had an extra set of keys? yes. the keys let him get into vehicle and trunk? correct. when you were talking with casey you were whispering at times? yes, one time in particular. she was crying? yes. when your father arrived, he did not go into casey's room? i don't belive so. in fact prior to police arriving on that date, your father didn't ask you what was going on? rephrase question. 11:32:30 - there were not questions your father asked prior to police arriving? not that i recall. during this confrontation between casey and your mother, your role was as peacemaker? doing my best, yes. your mother's focus was more on how could you not tell us, dwelling on the fact that she can't believe we're in situation? yes. casey didn't have a chance to respond to her mother? yes. the bags you picked up were already packed at lazzaro house? yes. you thought bags were packed by lazzaro? sustained. SIDEBAR 11:36:10 - did you know how you and your sister pack bags? yes. you shove items in, right? yes. and that's not how you found the items packed at lazzaros house? correct. do you know if your sister packed that bag? she didnt pack those bags. almost 100 percent ...move to strike. sustained to last question. 11:37:30 - that opinion that casey didn't pack the bag, is that a firm opinion? objection, withdraw. the bags that you picked up had no odor? no. in your family its your father who cleans the cars? typically yes. he would do that every weekend or every other weekend? absolutely. the laptop with blue screen, when you arrived at apt, tony was there? yes he was. and you cannot say that he might have been one to cause screen to be blue? sustained. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUBJECT TO RECALL. REDIRECT 11:40:00- re: phone call july 3, caylee wasn't mentioned? that she wasn't missing. it was about caylee and casey not being home. APPROACH 11:44:50 - you said earlier that your dad arrived shortly before police, when they arrived were you all separated? eventually the separated us, yes. when casey told you this kidnapping scenario, was your focus turned to caylee? 100 percent yes. when police arrived, casey told them about the kidnapping? correct. when poice arrived their focus was on finding caylee? yes. did you speak with police? yes sir. did you tell them what casey told you? yes sir. the questions were about the kidnapping? objection. when you had subsequent interviews with police you were asked about what casey told you about kidnapping? objection. overruled. yes. and zenaida gonzales? yes. LEE ANTHONY EXCUSED AT 11:48:35 BRENDON FLETCHER, ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE, CALLED TO STAND 11:50: 10 - been with sheriff since 1999. were you first person to respond to call at hope spring? yes. i ws the first person to arrive. did you arrive in a patrol car? yes a marked car and full uniform. were you alone? by myself at time of arrival. what type of call you were responding to? a stolen vehicle call is how it came thru. when you got there, you were under impression it was stolen car? stolen vehicle coupled with a verbal altercation between caller and adult daughter. what was the first thing you did? i approached door, someone answered. did you go into the house? yes, made contact with caller and gathered info. how many people were inside? three adults. do you remember seeing cindy anthony? yes. do you remember george inside the home? yes. did you see casey anthony? yes inside the home. where were they upon arrival? i don't recall seeing casey. i did see george and cindy. what was their demeanor? george didn't say too much, cindy wsa quite upset. 11:53:20 - at that point, what actions do you take? i ask why was she calling, the nature of call, vehicle, later we gather more info about caylee being missing. i spoke with casey shortly after that. maybe witin 10 minutes of arrival. what did she tell you about the reason why you were there? she didn't say much, she wasn't forthcoming initially. were you asking questions? yes. were you getting a response? not initally i wasnt getting anyting. did there come a point she gave you info? yes, she did say her daughter had been missing for a month she had last seen her with nanny and she had been wanting to conduct her own investigation. i wasn't clear why she didn't contact us. did other deputies arrive? yes, another deputy arrived at scene. i had gotten initial info. i called my sgt at that time, he arrived at scene. 11:55:50 - did he direct actions of deputies on scene? yes. he takes over. you said casey said zeniada had taken her child. did you find out her last location? at the time she didn't know the exact location by name but she was willing to show us the location. did you find out this location? yes we did. were you involved? yes, i drove my marked car to sawgrass apts. deputy acevedo took casey to apt complex. she pointed to the apt of where she dropped caylee off. where was it? first building, second floor. do you remember apt number? no. aproaches witness. 11:58:20 - did you contact anyone in the apt? i did go to apt and from what i could view from gound level the blinds were open and i could not see any furtniture. it appeared to be vacant i knocked, and got no answer. did you tell casey that? i dont know, can't recall. did casey leave the area with acevedo while you remained? yes. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. CROSS EXAMINATION 11:59:30 - you arrvied and garage door was open? yes. you saw sunfire? yes. the trunk was open? i believe so. you were in and out? wouldn't say in and out. was in there one time to walk outside with casey. you did not observe any odor from car? i didnt spend any lengthy time by the vehicle. you did not observe any odors from decomposition coming from the car? can't say that i did. how mahy other officer showed up? from the time i was there another 3 or 4. did any of the four officers come to you and tell you i smell human decomposition? objection, sustained. were you aware that evening a car with human decomp .... objection, sustained? 12:01:45 - if you brief someone of a fact, you put that in report? depending. if you brief someone of a fact, that goes in report? yes. that would include ....your report is report for that call? no. how does it work? deputy may take main report and you provide supplemental report. 12:03:05 - if it pertained to what she told me it would have been in report. your report containts facts that you observed and that other people gave you? facts that i observed. you didn't observe zani the nanny? correct. anything in your report about human decomp ...objection sustained. WITNESS EXCUSED. LUNCH AT 12:05 13:31:00 - court resumes Baez says state might introduce jail visitation videos. wants to know what portions will be introduced. asks that state proffer portions of video they want to introduce. would speed along process regarding objections. Burdick says baez had had three years to file motion to redact videos. i asked him to type out what he thinks is objectionable. we had hearing on this in march. i've heard nothing since. 13:33:58 - baez says trying to move things along. things in the videos court found to not be relevant. WERE ALL OF THESE VIDEOS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE DEFENSE AND DID YOU REVIEW? with the exception of one, yes. yes, we've had them. thats why i'm raising objections. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS HEARINGS AND THE WEEK BEFORE WE WENT TO PINELLAS COUNTY I OFFERED TO HEAR ANY MOTIONS YOU WANTED HEARD. WHY WERE NO MOTIONS FILED OBJECTING TO ADMISSABILITY OF VIDEOS? in the course of defending this case we've faced numerous issues, many have been litigated. we address what are more imp. issues first. other things come up at a later time. the moment i thought there was an issue i spoke with drane-burdick. i knew we weren't getting anywhere so i brought it up. 13:37:45 - it's not something we've sat on. LET ME GET TO THE POINT. ALL MOTIONS DEALING WITH NON SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE SHOULD BE HEARD NO LATER THAN DEC. 31 2010. THERE ARE NUMEROUS CASES THAT IF YOU FAIL TO FILE MOTION FOR SUPRESS IN TIMELY MANNER THAN YOU WAIVE THAT OBJECTION, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT TIME. YOU CAN MAKE SHORT OBJECTIONS ON RELEVANCY BUT THE PROBLEM WITH YOU DOING IT AT THIS DATE IS SIMPLY THERE'S NO TIME TO REDACT THE PORTIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THATS WHY WE HAVE DEADLINES. YOU HAVE FIVE LAWYERS SITTING OVER THERE WHO HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME SINCE DECEMBER. WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF LOOK AT IT BUT YOU MAY HAVE WAIVED ANY OBJECTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. LET'S MOVE ON. ADRIANA ACEVEDO CALLED TO STAND 13:42:20 - orange county sheriffs office for five years. in july 2008, she was assigned to sector 2 road patrol. includes hopesrping drive. 13:43:10 - did you arrive after cpl. fletcher? yes. does office keep record of dispatch time? yes they do. have you seen it? yes maam. do records tell us when you arrived? yes maam. i arrived at 9:52pm. when you arrived was cpl fletcher in the house? yes. i walked to front door, i met with cpl fletcher and asked him for specifics. once you got his briefing, did you take written statements? yes maam. did you provide forms to george, cindy, lee and casey? yes. i went to my car, got copies of forms and brought them inside. after you arrived, did sgt. hosey arrive? yes maam. did he direct activities that evening? yes. did he direct you to escort casey to a particular location? yes, began after 11:50pm. casey got into your car? yes. marked patrol car, sat in rear. under arrest? no. handcuffed? no maam. i asked her if she was willing to go with me and she said yes. you were taking her to last location she saw caylee? yes. anyone you're transporting in your car who is not under arrest, do you take steps to make sure they're there voluntarily? yes. what steps do you take? to keep verbal communication with her, how was she doing, and to let her know any time she didn't want to be in teh car, let me know. does she tell you she wants to go back home, or get out of car? no maam. where did you go? sawgrass apts. gives address. how long did it take for you to get to apts on sawgrass? only a few minutes. what time did you arrive? i'd have to look at call log. 12:05am. what did you do? she advised which apt it was and we returned to residence. you mean casey? yes. she pointed to an apt and directed us to that building. when you were being directed, who was telling you where to drive? casey. did she tell you where to stop? yes. is apt number listed in report? yes. apt 210. did she make any statement? dont' recall her making statements. was she certain of loccation?. yes, she said she was certain that was the apt. you left and went where? her residence. when did you return to hope spring? 12:25am. i let her out of the car. NO FURTHER QUESTION. CROSS EXAMINATION 13:52:00 - when you arrived, what was cindy's demeanor? upset. what was george's demeanor? calm, quiet. what about casey? fairly quiet. just like george? yes. she was in back cage of car? yes sir. that's when you drove off to sawgrass? yes. how long were you in house before you left for sawgrass? about two hours. in that time did you see garage open? yes. did you see the pontiac in garage? yes. was the trunk open? don't remember. smell any foul odor? i smelled an odor. was it the odor of human decomposition? objection. can you describe the odor? it seemed to be a garbage type odor. you were not at the time alarmed that csi needed to be called? that wouldn't be my decision to make. you never advised anyone that csi needed to be called? no sir. NOTHING FURTHER. REDIRECT 13:54:59 - you didn't notice if the trunk was open? yes. how close did you get to car? i passed vehicle to get in residence. you described smell as a garbage smell is that because you don't have any exp. with human decomposition? not a lot of experience ....TOTAL SIGNAL LOSS DUE TO STRONG STORMS, CAN'T LOG AT THE MOMENT. ? NEXT WITNESS AMANDA MACKLIN, MANAGER OF SAWGRASS APTS. SGT. REGINALD HOSEY TAKES STAND - time code off by 8 seconds ....logging off tv not feed. 14:09:05 - i actually walked to car with her briefly. i wanted to reassure her i wasn't going to take her child from her. we just wanted the location. was this conversation after you knew child might have been kidnapped? not kidnapped, just missing. was this conversation ater casey returned from sawgrass? yes it was. did you get any info from casey as to where child could be other than sawgress? yes, she mentioned .....SIGNAL LOSS AGAIN. 14:15:30 - do you know how long deputies were there before you got there? 30-40 mins. did you hear call for dispatch of fletecher and acevedo? yes, i do remember it. about a stolen car? yes. i didn't follow too much after that after call went out. ....SIGNAL LOSS AGAIN 14:18:30 - she was put in the back, the cage? deputy acevedo has a cage in her car, yes. i believe she was put in the rear of the vehicle. when you approached hope spring for first time, was garage open? open. was trunk open? it was open. did you go up to the car? yes i did. did you smell a foul odor? yes i did. did you report that to csi? no because i didnt talk to forensics that night. you didn't inspect it? no i didn't. you didn't write a report? no i didnt. when you separated casey, you wanted to be alone to talk with her? yes. you were in full uniform? correct. she went with you? yes. did you at any time serve her miranda rights? i'm not aware of anyone doing that. did she have awareness of being able to get out of acevedo's patrol car? yes, she could have asked her to stop the car. could she have opened door herself? no not on those vehicles, you aren't allowed to do that. were you present when casey was returned from trip to sawgrass? yes i was. she was led into the hosue? yes. she was kept there until det. milich arrived? yes. she talked with several deputies on scene. 14:23:10 - do you remember how long it was until milich showed up? i believe, i can't say for sure ...couple hours maybe. for that time casey is in home with at least three deputies waiting for milich? not necessarily, the deputies weren't in the house all at same time. none of you left? no. you didn't let anyone leave? couldn't say i wouldn't have. were you present when milich came and interviewed casey? don't know how long i stayed after milich arrived. 14:25:10 - you are not in chain of custody of any evidence? no. other than what casey said to you? correct. only time you had anything else do with casey was with protesters at house? correct. REDIRECT 14:26:25 - on july 15 2008 did casey tell you caylee was alive? yes. that caylee was well? yes. that she was with the babysitter? correct. did casey tell you that she didn't want her mother to have contact with caylee that evening? yes. when you are making assignments to deputies at that scene is it important to gather info by talking to people? yes. taking statements? yes. the people in house with the deputies would include george, cindy and lee? correct. do you remember lee leaving and returning? don't remember. did you make any effort to stop lee if he left? no. did you try to stop cindy, casey or george if they wanted to leave? no. did any of them say they wanted to leave? no they didn't. did they cooperative in an effort to locate caylee? yes they were. when casey went in patrol car, did you tell acevedo to maintain comm. with casey as to being there voluntarily? yes. you said you were there when casey returned? yes. was she free to move about house? yes she was. did anyone tell her she couldn't leave? i didnt tell her and deputies on scene didn't tell her. when you talked with her away from family, did she tell you she didn't want to go? no. was she cooperative? yes. casey went with you freely? yes. did you have her in handcuffs at that point? no i didn't. RECROSS 14:30:25 was george upset or calm? overall he was calim but he referenced the same concerns as cindy had about casey's demeanor. but he was calm? yes. did he tell you he was an ex cop? yes. cindy wasn't calm? she was upset tearful angry, but was calm at some point. casey when you talked to her she had a flat affect whole time? yes. THANK YOU. ? RECESS UNTIL 2:50 14:52:44 - jury brought back 14:53:45 - YURI MELICH CALLED TO STAND 14:54:10 - orange county sheriffs office almost 10 years, works for internal affairs. was det. cpl in missing person child abuse unit in july 2008. 14:55:00 - as of july 2008, had that assignment since april. worked in homicide before that. also as a detective in property crimes. 14:55:45 - worked in patrol as well. on july 16, 2008 did you get a call from hosey re: the events at hope spring drive? i did. did you respond? i did. what time did you arrive? just before 4am. when you arrived, did you meet casey? i did. did you become aware that she had given written statement? yes. aproaches witness. shows him papers 14:57:40 - did you get that upon your arrival? yes. from deputies there at the house? yes. did you show it to casey? i believe i did. did you aks her if this was her statment? yes i did. that she wrote it herself? i did. did she adopt it as one she had written out? yes. objection. overruled. admitted to evidence 15:00:00 - published to jury. baez objects. judge says its already in. 15:01:10 - technical difficulties in showing document 15:01:40 - you see doc. in front of you? i do. copy of casey anthony statement. 15:02:10 - reads to jury: on monday june 9 2008 bet. 9 am and 1pm i casey anthony took my daughter caylee marie to nanny's apt. caylee is about 3 feet tall, shoulder length hair, hazel eyes, and small birthmark on left shoulder. on day of disappearnce she was wearing jean shorts, pony tail. on monday june 9 i took her to sawgrass apts her nanny zenaida fernandiez gonalsez apt. describes nanny. met her thru mutual friend, jeff hopkins, met her in 2004, on date above, june 9, after dropping caylee off, went to work, universal, worked there for over four years. left work at 5, afer reaching apt, neither nanny or anyone else was home. briefly met raquel and jennifer, after calling nanny, i waited outside. i called nanny earlier that morning. when i called that afternoon her phone was no longer in service, around 7 i went to familiar places. one is park, spent rest of that evening pacing and worrying at lazzaros apt. for past four week i have stayed at tonys i have spent every day looking for caylee. i have lied and stolen from friends and family to do what i could to find my daughter. i didnt notify police out of fear of what may happen to caylee. every day i have gone to malls, parks, gone out, tried to find info. contacted jeff hopkins, jeff lives in jax. on tues july 15, i got phone call from caylee, today was first dsay i heard her voice in over four weeks. after 31 days the only thing that matters is geting my daughter back. nanny never made attempt to explain why caylee is no longer in orlando or if she's ever going to bring her home. 15:07:45 - where did you review that statement with casey? in spare bedroom. did you ask casey if she would talk to you about her statement? yes. did she agree with it? yes. did you stay in spare bedroom to talk? yes. did you place her on tape? yes. have you listend to tape? yes. is it an accurate representation of your conversation? yes. 15:09:58 - publishes tape to jury 15:10:15 - audio begins of conversation between melich and casey: do you undertand its being recorded? casey says yes. talks about four pages of sworn statement. det. explains what happens if she files false report. asks if she wants to rescind it. she says it's the truth. casey gives name of nanny, her location at sawgrass apts, gives apt 210, says she's known her four years, met her thru jeff hopkins. says jeff left universal nine months ago and moved to north carolina, then jax. spoke to him a week and a half ago. says she can find number for him. says she has two phones, one thru work at universal, won't keep charge so she uses work phone. gives number of phone that was lost. 15:14:30 - says she has one other number for nanny and jeff, not on sim card, but on phone. phone lost though? yes, but how did you keep sim card? had it on work desk, switched it out. you made report to universal? yes, nine days ago. talks about zach hopkins. knew nanny before caylee was born. started watching caylee within last year and a half. before zenaida, lauren gibbs watched caylee, stopped watching her in april 2006. would drop caylee off or go to jeffs house in avalon park, zenaida would go there to watch both kids. 15:17:30 - was going to zenaidas apt since end of 2006, beg. of 2007. she had apt on glenwood close to downtown. lived there quite a few months, moved to sawgrass this year. 15:19:10 - zenaida moved into moms house, then sawgrass, dropped off caylee on june 9, went to work, got off work, went to get caylee, knocked on door at apt. no one answers. calls zenaidas cell phone, not in service, waited on steps. time passed. didn't hear from anyone. went to blanchard park, other places they would have gone. after about 7pm, i was getting frantic. i didnt want to come home, don't know what i'd say about caylee not being with me. went to lazzaros. did you tell him about caylee? no. talk to anyone about caylee? outside of mutual friends ....jeff, zenaidas mother. any of these numbers on phone? no. so after having this phone a year you ...? zenaida has switched numbers a couple times, jeff has switched numbers as well. melich asks about numbers. talked to juliette lewis. still work at universal? yes, event coordinator. juliette works there too. she in SIM card? no she's not, her number just changed, she moved to NY. when did she leave universal? 2 months ago. who else did you talk to? just within that small group. did you tell anyone specifically zenaida took your child? juliette and jeff. do you have a number for juliette? no i do not. when was last time you talked to her? 3 weeks ago. 15:25:50 - why didn't you call police prior to today? i was naive enough to think i could handle it myself. i was scared something would happen to her if i called authorities. it was a fear of the unknown. is there anything about this story that's untrue? no sir. did you cause any inuury to caylee? no sir. did you jurt her and leave her somewhere? no sir. zenaida took her? she's the last person i saw with my child. says she has seasonal ID for universal. does caylee take meds? no. 15:27:10 - do you have any problems with drugs? nothing. been committed for thoughts of suicide? no. do you have a cause for why zenaida took your child? did she make any statements? that caylee was a great child. 15:28:10 - says zani grew up in ny, went to UF, black and puerto rican. birthday in sept. would you be willing to take me to where mom lives, apt you dropped her off at? yes. casey says caylee has distinctive features, has birthmark on left shoulder, i just want my daughter back. casey raised right hand, swears its the truth. 15:29:30 - det. melich, this statement was at 4:11am and lasted 20 min, did you head out immediately? yes. where? went to 301 north hillside near bumby off glenwood. did you get out of car? no, drove by and asked if she could point out apt of zenaida and her family. she pointed out two windows. this address was off glenwood and bumby? glenwood and robinson. during course of investigation into caylee's disappearance. did you find out people casey knew lived on glenwood? yes, ricardo morales and amy hizenga. during the drive that morning, did she say friends lived across street?she did not. did she say she'd been there since caylee went missing? she did not. anywhere else? went from there to sawgrass. what happened? she pointed out apt. claimed to have dropped caylee off i was directed to apt 210. did you get out of car? no. did casey say anything else? i don't recall. was that the last location you visited? no. went to apts at conway and michigan. its several townhomes. why? she claims its one of locations zenaida lived. we drove thru complex at least once. wasn't sure which apt. it was. anywhere else? no. it was though the only location we got out of car though. what happened? we had marked car following us in case i were to get out of car and knock on door. told casey to sit in car, told her i'd knock on doors, let me know if she saw familiar person. any people look familiar to her? no. 15:34:55 - after all of this, what time is it? around 6am. where did you go next? i drove her home. did you have her cell phone? i didnt have it. don't know if she did. did you tell her you'd continue to investigate? i said were going to try to find caylee in general sense. did you leave at that point and begin investigation into info she provided? yes. NO OTHER QUESTIONS CROSS EXAMINATION 15:37:40 - tries to ask about dick tracy orlando? SUSTAINED, NEXT QUESTIONS. SIDEBAR. 15:41:20 - ASKS JURY TO STEP OUT. 15:42:30 - baez says he gave documents to drane burdick, she says she doesn't have them but would look at them at same time judge does. 15:58:30 - baez tells judge why he thinks document is admissable. says once witness takes stand, credibility and bias are issues. says detective was engaging in self promotion. I HAVE THESE AND LOOKED AT THEM, WHEN YOU SAY IT GOES TO HIS CREDIBILITY AND BIAS, WHAT SPECIFICALLY. baez says detective is self promoting. THE PROBLEM WITH SAYING HE'S UNPROFESSIONAL, JUDGE REFERNECES 1985 DECISION OF FL. SUPREME COURT, THIS CASE WAS PRESIDED OVER BY MY GOOD FRIEND SUSAN SHAFER. JUDGE SHAFER IMPOSED DEATH SENTENCE IN THIS CASE AND IT WAS AFFIRMED. IT WANTED TO BRING OUT LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM OF DETECTIVE. IT CONCLUDED THAT ATTACK ON DETECTIVES PROFESSIONALISM WAS NOT A PROPER ATTACK ON CREDIBLITY. IN THESE BLOGS, IS THERE ANY STATEMENT YOU CONTEND WOULD AFFECT HIS BIAS SO I CAN PACIFICALLY (judge always says pacifically instead of specifically) LOOK AT IT. 16:03:45 - baez gives example: september 29, 2:50 pm. judge then asks him to highlight portion. 16:06:55 - on sept. 29 reads blog about missing person case akin to murder case without a body. that goes to bias that we will be cross examining this officer on. YOU NEED RECORD OF EVIDENCE THAT SHOW THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT. 16:08:10 - there are statements from george and cindy that they told this officer this could have been accident that was covered up. this officer did nothing with this info, didn't inspect pool, didnt question casey; WHAT EVIDENCE WOULD ONE GLEAN FROM INSPECTING A POOL, WHAT WOULD YOU SEE IF SOMEONE DROWNED. IF BODY ISN'T IN POOL, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IF IT WAS DRONWED IN THAT POOL? spatters of blood near pool, trace evidence found in hair, post mortem banding on hairs. if you look you'll never know. its as if they parked the car pushed it aside and did nothing with it. that's the situation with the pool. PROSECUTION - ASHTON: there i no evidence the victim drowned. there is zero because what counsel said is evidence of nothing. is this comment, does it show bias. according to prof. earhart, he says that underlying bias must be one to witnesses in case. this comment has nothing to do with bias toward witness or party in this case. it shows nothing. its inadmissable for that reason. with all due respect to counsel, the evidence thus far hasn't demonstrated that det. melich was told about a ladder. cindy talked about talking to a reporter but not with det. melich. counsel would have to prove that first. we have no evidence by anyone that this may have been a drowning. speculation isnt relevant. do blogs show bias against defendant or witness? no, so its not impeachable. 16:13:15 - OBJECTION TO USE OF THAT DOCUMENT SUSTAINED. THAT STATEMENT DOESN'T GO TO ANY PARTICULAR BIAS 16:14:00 - cheney argues about something with judge, but he's not on mic, can't hear him. 16:15:45 - YOU MENTIONED A REPRIMAND, MR BAEZ, YOU DIDN'T GO FULLY INTO THAT. RATHER THAN GO BACK AND FORTH WILL YOU PURSUE THAT LINE OF QUESTIONING? i wanted to inquire into his supervisor reprimanding him for blogging however if courts not going to let me go into blog, i cant say why he was reprimanded. THERE'S NO NEED TO DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS REPRIMANDED FOR ..THESE BLOGS? correct. an activity that would be frowned upon, going on web making posts just for exposure. IN LOOKING AT THESE POSTS OTHER THAN ONE YOU JUST SHOWED, REFERENCE THIS CASE? I think most of them do. JUDGE READS A BLOG WHERE MELICH SAYS HE CAN'T TALK ABOUT CASE OUTSIDE OF WORK. SAYS HE HAS TO WATCH WHAT HE SAYS SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT CASE. i'm not saying he was giving up critical info on web. THERE'S ONE FROM SEPT 20. 2008, WHERE HE REFERENCES THANK YOU FOR KEEPING CAYLEE ON FOREFRONT. I CAN ONLY HOPE WE FIND HER SOON. i would agree these are general in nature. the point is he shouldn't be doing this. HE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT BUT AS I SAID BEFORE, THESE DON'T GO TO ANYTHING THAT'S IMPEACHABLE. i will refrain from this issue at this time. 16:23:00 - FIVE MINUTE RECESS. 16:32:40 - you arrived on scene at 4am? yes just prior to that. the first thing you do is to meet with hosey? correct. what was siutation at that point? rephrase, without giving us heresay, can you give us a general idea? it was primarily a missing person's case. what else? theft of car, money, some theft involved. were you made aware casey went to sawgrass apts? yes. i recall being told they went to sawgrass. did you have any info about that apt as to wheter suspects were identified? sustained. did you have any other info about casey? aside from fact she went with the deputy to another location. obviously statment had been filled out. how long was the apt vacant? sustained. did you feel informed about the situation? i had a general understanding as to why i was there ...to look for a missing child. did you see the car that evening? which car ...pontiac, don't recall what i saw where. i remember comments made about an odor coming from the car. don't remember who made it. so upon getting this information, you inspectd the car? no. you were told about a missing child? yes. you were told that location where casey went showed no results? something along those lines. then you were told about odor in car? yes. and you never called csi? no. never secured any possible evidence? upon my arrival that night ... no. you did nothing with the car? correct. that evening, you didn't find it necessary to secure that car? no. one of first things you looked at with casey, was she was a suspect? at the time she wasnt suspect of anything, she was the mother of a missing chid. i hadn't talked to her yet. did you tell hosey to unhandcuff casey? i did not. didnt realize she was handcuffed. did you read her miranda rights before questioning her? no. she was the mother of a missing 2 year old, there was no reason to mirandize her. she was a mother who was giving you info that didn't pan out? i hadn't talked to her yet, I didn't know what she was going to tell me. you read her statement? yes. you thought information in that statement was suspect? yeah i wrote that in my report. you thought it was suspect? i did write that in my report. her version is suspect? yes. according to what i wrote in the report. a child is missing for 30 days? yes. she's not a suspect? no, she's not a suspect. 16:40: 30 - you read her statement that night? yes. did you notice that there was a portion in quotes? looks at paperwork, yes. in this four page statement, that's the only portion in quotes? yes. that means what? i cant answer to why people quote certain words. in your experience? i can't tell you why people use quotes, it doesnt stand out to me then or now. did you ask her why she didnt feel at home at home? no. she went somehwere where she felt safe? yes. you put that in quotes? i won't disagree. why? couldn't tell you what my state of mind was, dont know why i did it now. did you aks her why she didnt feel safe at home? dont believe so. 16:43:20 - you use quotes around why she didn't call police? yes. why? i used it to acknowseldge what she said to me. i want to know from you that in your opinion that you think her statements are outrageous? objection. withdrawn. the statements you first took from her ....shows melich files ...want to take you down this statement, first area, you're basically telling her she's fabricating a story? no. a lot of times before an official statement, i'll give them a chance to change it. the reason you made the statement is not because her story was a fabrication but it's something you always say? i didn't find it was fabrication then, she gave very detailed statements. 16:46:50 - she says she knew nanny for four years? yes. then she tells you that she was introd. to nanny by jeff hopkins? yes. when you questined her about jeff, she cant tell you how to reach him? i asked her where he worked, had contact number, she did not. told me he used to work at universal. 16:48:10 - she talks about sim cards. did that make sense to you? objection, reprahse. did you confont her with info about sim cards? i wouldnt say confront, i was trying to get clarification. 16:49:20 - you asked her if she spoke to anyone else and she says juliette? correct. one of my corworkers? yes. you ask her what she does? yes. she says event coor? yes. you ask casey for her number? yes. she cant come up with one? to quote her she says i cant think of one. she's subleasing apt? according to what she said yes. then says she doesn't work at univeral? correct. so within 10 seconds she has coworker at universal than says this person moves to NY? yes. a child's been missing a month? yes. she has no number for this person? she told me she did not. at that point in time, ddi you say this doesn't make sense? no. did you realize you're dealing with something unique? you're asking to what i felt at time, i can't tell you what i felt. it wasn't unique, i was in the info gathering state, meeting with with the mother of a missing child. 16:52:10 - she only gave me only two outcry witnesses. she says one second the person works with her, one second she doesn't. correct. and you didnt think that you're dealing with something unique? object, sustained. you didnt do anything based on that info? i went to universal to try to find these people so yes i did something. at end of this interview you ask her about any problems with drugs? yes. ask about cocaine? yes. meth? yes. excstasy? yes. anything else? i dont read it here no. then you ask about attempted suicide? yes. has she been to lakeside? it's a faclity for people with mental issues. you're asking the questions because her statements at that point are not right? no, i cant tell yuou why i did. its part of info gathering process. i ask a lot of qestions. so this is something you do out of routine? object. sustained. 16:56:00 - baez asks for moment. did you ask any one at home about casey? i had a brief conversation with cindy. were you made aware of seizures? objection, sustained. did you get medical info about casey? objection, overruled. aside from questions about lakeside? no. do you have copy of your report? not with me, no. 16:58:40 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS REDIRECT - NO DETECTIVE EXCUSED. 16:59:20 - RECESS FOR EVENING.