1970S TELEVISION SHOWS
David Susskind
Wakefield Poole, you worked out, or elaborate. Ratiocination
Wakefield Poole
No, I really firmly believe that
David Susskind
Youy're making dirty movies.
Wakefield Poole
To you, David, I'm making dirty movies but to myself
David Susskind
To the customer.
Wakefield Poole
No, I'm not making dirty movies,
David Susskind
who's coming to see boys in the sand?
Wakefield Poole
Quite a few people
David Susskind
homosexuals?
Wakefield Poole
Homosexual straight. Largely, yes, it's I made them for a gate audience. Because I'll tell you how I started to make them I saw one myself and I fell asleep. And the people were with me laughing. I thought this is this is dirty. You know, it's not. It's not real. And that's why I got interested, I've been in the theater for 20 years of my life, television. I've done big television shows. Ed Sullivan. Gary Moore as a performer I just feel that there is a time now. That's why I put my name on my film. It is my name. And I'm subject to arrest because I have my name on the film, they can come and get me right here and take me out the store. And I can spend up to seven years in jail. But it's it's something that I believe in, I think it is one of the most beautiful things in the world is sex. And it also expresses an idea if a person can can see something and see two people relating to one another, not only on a sexual level, and I'm not talking about just penetration, I'm talking about relating as to human beings. And that's what I'm into doing in films. I'm into showing those people relate. I'm showing the need, I'm showing all the things that make up the human being. It's what I'm trying to show in my movies, and I think I'm succeeding. I've been very successful. So I can only base that on my succeeding artistically. And what I want to do I want to make artistic films, I want to make erotic films, films that aren't dirty a film that you could go to see and say, That is a beautiful film, a film that challenges the mind as well as the crotch so to speak, you know?
David Susskind
Barney
Barnard Sackett
Hi David
David Susskind
you will have a theater in Philadelphia plays dirty movies is that fair to say.
Barnard Sackett
No, I show musical comedies drenched in sex. That's what it really is. People come to be amused. David,
David Susskind
do you have the same kind of rather elaborate rationale for what you do as Wakefield?
Barnard Sackett
I have no rationale. I have a theater that's played besides X rated films. We play Charlie Chaplin. I played a Jewish film. French Film
David Susskind
I know. Your fame
Barnard Sackett
We still have sex with subtitles. Right?
David Susskind
You really play sexy pictures.
Barnard Sackett
Now we're doing okay.
David Susskind
Do you have any self consciousness about doing that?
Barnard Sackett
No, because we have a very nice operation. David, the people come to our theater. Don't come with raincoats, hats, we have the concession. But they come without these things. And they can't enjoy themselves. Because you know, you can learn something from something's being done on the screen, even with inexperienced sexual performers. I have had
David Susskind
Are your movie showing sexual intercourse.
Barnard Sackett
Oh, yeah. Yeah,
David Susskind
hardcore pornography.
Barnard Sackett
Well it all depends what you mean by
David Susskind
The definition of Wakefield Poole. Hardcore
Barnard Sackett
Well, if the if judges if the Supreme Court has yet to pass down the decision, what is pornography? How can we as lay people know you're an attorney?
David Susskind
I'm not an attorney.
Barnard Sackett
You were at one time an attorney David
David Susskind
No, never. No, never. I don't want to be charged with that. I've never been an attorney
Barnard Sackett
I'm going to have to check that biography of yours. The uh...
David Susskind
if you show show hardcore pornography on the screen, that's pornography.
Barnard Sackett
But what is pornography?
David Susskind
Pornography is that which appeals to poor end interest? That's what the court said.
Barnard Sackett
that's what the court said that people come to my theater come to be entertained. They can't perform any sexual act in the theater. They might learn something they come to be amused. They come with a sense of humor. They come to kill an hour, an hour and a half or two hours. We don't stop you from walking out of the theater if they pay the $3.
David Susskind
Is there a similarity and type that comes to your theater? Aren't they men middle aged men
Barnard Sackett
No David, believe it or not. We get them we say 21 and over but if someone comes in with a draft card, we feel we can get killed for that for United States. And you can also come and be entertained by the people United States. So we let them in. We have young people, we have girls coming by themselves. We have women who come in by themselves. We even have Believe it or not. A major railroad has a luncheon every Monday and after the lunch they come in to be entertained for 30 40 minutes, believe it or not. They even sign a guest book
David Susskind
The board of directors?
Barnard Sackett
I never asked them
David Susskind
A major railroad. who's coming? The porters the conductor's
Barnard Sackett
well, they could be major members, you know, but no, these are executives Believe it or not, and we have a guestbook. You know, people came in and were afraid what they were seeing when they put their name on a guest book. Seriously with their name, address phone number? Not at all.
David Susskind
I've heard everything... a guest book in a porno movie. We'll be back tomorrow the stunning revelations in a minute.