The Truth From Germany - whilst the docks, big guns, aeroplane hangars etc, in Heligoland are being destroyed. <br/> <br/>Allies' destruction of German base on island of Heligoland. LS explosion; big cloud of smoke; across water. CU bent metal things sticking out of the sea - part of blown up docks? Another shot; at another bunch of metal bars criss crossing - don't know what it used to be. <br/> <br/>DS explosion in area where already much has been destroyed - big piles of bricks & rubble; looks like train tracks on rt. Closer shot piles rubble inside walls - looks like cellar of collapsed building. ECU part of destroyed gun (?) - looking through circle. <br/> <br/>2nd part: LS Huge rally in Berlin - masses of people; with huge government building with pillars in BG; several banners held up in crowd. Closer of same; with men in Tyrolean hats on horseback riding past in FG; one holds pole with tapestry type thing; like standard. A bunch of soldiers also in the hats; carrying rifles; come walking past camera - some have feathers & flowers decorating hats &/or guns; also white armbands. The defeated German army. Another LS from angle of building; with mob of people; someone waving in FG; and also in FG; at rt. a man stands above level of crowd; speaking. <br/> <br/>Speech; oratory; demonstrations.
FEED FTG OF GERMANS ATOP THE BERLIN WALL. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cue in ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 23:29:35:07 VS OF GERMANS STANDING ON, SITTING ON AND DESTROYING WITH HAMMERS THE TOP OF THE BERLIN WALL. SU BARRIE DUNSMORE. 23:45:50:01 FTG OF GERMANS ON THE WALL BANGING AWAY WITH SLEDGEHAMMERS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cue out ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CI: DEMONSTRATIONS: BERLIN WALL.
[Yves Doutriaux]
History of Nazi Germany Part 1,2,3
01:59:42:25>>>B/W 1937 ZOOM IN from book on table, entitled The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany by William L. Shirer. Germany, 1937. VS Nazi youth blowing long horns, with swastika flags attached, over mountains and in stadium (Triumph of the Will ?) Nazi parade, pageant almost, through city streets. Excellent shots of Nazi soldiers, or knights, on horseback in medieval (jousting) costume, some goose-stepping. VS nighttime parades by torch light, Hitler salutes. Excellent shot of thousands of torch bearers marching into stadium in formation to create swastika. Title card and credits roll. 02:02:33:23>>>B/W 1940s 1970s Part 1 - The Rise to Power WS entrance to Dachau concentration camp, lined by poplar trees (1970's ?). VS memorial camp - numbered stones mark where barracks used to be, security posts, guard towers, barbed wire fences, children and adults tour the camp. CU stone marker, Execution Range with Blood Ditch. Sign hanging on railings, KREMATORIUM. PAN INT crematorium ovens. Excellent shots of massive crowds cheering Hitler, good CUs - police control masses with good humor - Hitler waves from convertible, and balcony. INT, CU Hitler speaking from podium, good. 02:05:28:12>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s VS Hitler's hometown of Braunau, on the Danube, Austria. MS of inn where Hitler was born. MS and CU entrance to Benediction monastery in Lambach where Hitler attended school. Picturesque shot of Linz on Danube river. VS Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, INT and EXT, good. ZOOM IN hostel where Hitler lived, Vienna. VS mass demonstrations in Vienna, pre-WWI. 02:09:18:09>>>B/W 1910s - 1920s MS Glockenspiel and mechanical clock, brief PAN Munich skyline. Parade through Munich, men carry large pretzel with ribbons attached. Excellent montage of party spirit in Munich (circa 1920s), beer drinking, musicians, beer hall, beer maids, dancing and singing. Montage of German industry, good - smoke stacks, ship building, zeppelin, airplane takes off. 02:10:25:07 BW 1910s VS Kaiser Wilhelm II reviewing troops, good. 02:11:30:01>>>B/W 1910s Excellent life in the trenches, WWI. Topless soldier washes himself, guard walks through trench during snow. PAN and VS bombed and rain-soaked landscape with soldier making his way through trench, dead bodies in mud and pools of water (good example of carnage of war / environmental desolation / destruction). 02:12:05:22>>>B/W 1918 1918, Erich Ludendorff and Paul von Hindenburg pose (they look very similar), good. Both military leaders walk towards CAM. VS defeated German soldiers return from WWI, walking along country roads, across fields and bridges, helping wounded comrades - good. 02:13:02:00>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s Weimar Republic leaders, Friedrich Ebert and Philipp Scheidemann, good. VS Versailles and signing of Treaty. 02:13:55:28>>>B/W 1920s Post-WWI, British search German civilians at checkpoint in Rhineland, British-occupied territory. VS poverty in industrial town - woman and children scavenge through mound of earth. VS bread lines, soup lines, soup kitchen - German depression. VS civil and political unrest on streets. 02:18:11:17>>>B/W 1930s 1930s - Hitler, dressed in suit, leans out of window, looking a march below. Hitler stands with crowd in street. PAN Ludwig Bridge, Munich. CAM retraces route to famous beerhall putsch through desolate Munich - through Isator and Isar gates, past City Hall. HA of Munich Infantry School in snow. MS armed guards on duty by road block with barbed wire, during Hitler's trial. CU Ludendorf greeted as he gets of out car on his way to trail. PAN, EXT Landsberg prison, Munich, where Hitler served nine months of five-year term. Pages from Mein Kampf transposed over moving images of German soldiers, non-German peasants, Hitler speech, corpse. 02:22:40:17>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s Good life in Germany montage - busy streets, traffic, cafes, stores, workers eating lunch, men fishing. Rhineland no longer occupied - Germans march through streets. 02:23:37:02>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s VS German President, Paul Von Hindenburg, in countryside with children, being presented with flowers by girl who makes curtsy, CU with trees in BG, good. 02:23:57:22>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s MS Hitler's chalet at Berchtesgaden. 02:25:53:28>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s EXT Nazi Party HQ, Munich. INT, Max Amann, publisher of Volkischer Beobachter, works at desk. VS workers in office, distribution of newspaper, men in uniform at table, working - very busy. MS men reading newspaper on wall. Train full of young Nazi members arrives for rally at Nuremberg - VS happy Nazis, Hitler Youth, making their way to rally, raising arms in salute, smiling and waving. Band plays on sidewalk as Nazi Party members march through streets, little boy waves baton. Women offer soldiers water from pail. Hitler performs banner ritual by joining beer hall putsch banners with off new Nazi banners (he looks demonic in this footage), excellent. 02:28:19:27>>>B/W 1929 Montage of depression in Germany, 1929. Unemployed men stand on line, gate closes on German factory, jobless and homeless people on street, begging, PAN handling, searching through garbage. Symbolic shot of man, in silhouette, standing still as large gates close before him. VS communist protest marches, banners, good. Excellent shots of communist speakers at huge rallies. Excellent shots of Nazi parade through crowded streets - marchers kick at, and push hecklers. Violence erupts along sidelines, punching and brawling. VS street violence, riots, unrest between Nazis and communists. 02:30:36:00>>>B/W 1930 German president, Paul von Hindenburg walking along street with can - joined by three girls who kiss him on his cheek. LA EXT shot of parliament building, Dem Deutschen Volke. 1930, Nazis salute as they enter building after winning one sixth of German vote - Goering enters, Goebbels smiles as he gets out of car and enters. Excellent shot of von Hindenburg making announcement that he will run for president again. VS Hitler's presidential election campaign - campaign workers hand out leaflets, collect contributions, CU supporter wears Hitler badge on lapel. Hitler campaigns, speaks at rally, to industrialists in Dusseldorf. Social Democratic cartoon satires Hitler's deal with capitalists. 02:34:08:00>>>B/W 1932 February, 1932. VS Hitler's propaganda campaign - truck drives through streets hurling literature at pedestrians. Tracking shot along city street with stark Hitler posters. Hindenburg election truck drives on city street. Chancellor Bruning makes speech and his supporters cheer. VS Hitler's campaign tour - good aerials shots of unidentified German city. Hitler walks amongst the masses, waving, saluting, shaking hands, at huge rally. CU Hitler in profile as he makes speech. VS election day - people go to vote - campaign workers wear placards like sandwich boards, excellent. INT Hindenburg voting. Clean up after election, CU sweeping posters from street. Hindenburg receives crowd's applause upon victory. VS Hitler post-election defeat. Good CU Hitler with Goering, Rohm - all wearing suits. 02:39:33:19>>>B/W 1933 VS nighttime celebration, fire works, for Hitler's new position as Chancellor, 1933. WA shot of torch-bearing throng. Swastika symbol lit up. Nazis march through streets in celebration. VS spotlight on Hitler who waves from window as Nazis march with torches below. 02:40:58:08>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s Excellent montage of Third Reich - Nazi members march through city street, Brown Shirts carry Swastika flag and chant from truck, argue with civilians, chant slogans with civilians on street. VS huge bonfire - burning of books ? 02:41:53:29 BW 1930s 1940s Excellent shots of couple roller-skating with Swastika flags around perimeter of outdoor rink. Folk dancing. CU Goering laughing heartily, surrounded by Nazi officers and sitting with woman (wife ?) Goering raises beer mug and drinks as crowd about his salute. 02:42:27:19>>>B/W 1930s 1940s Excellent goose-steeping Nazi troops, marching through city. Nighttime Nazi rally, Nuremberg, Hitler salutes, Hess stands next to him. 02:43:12:27>>>B/W 1933 PART TWO: THE ROAD TO WAR 1933, VS Nazi party parade in rain with spectators, good. INT Chancellor Adolf Hitler with members of cabinet, some seated, some standing behind leaders. Goering sits next to Hitler. Hitler stands beside Hindenburg in parliament, shouts, and those present respond and salute. Hindenburg shakes Hitler's hand, good. VS German communist party street demonstration, march, with banners, flags. VS large showy Nazi storm trooper funeral after clash with communist - Hitler and top ranking Nazis attend. MS Goebbels and Goering marching in funeral cortege. Feb 27, 1933, VS Reichstag in flames - aftermath of Reichstag fire - Hitler stands amid ruins. VS INT special session of parliament where Hitler is granted special powers - Hitler speaks from podium, good. VS SA police blocking street, patrolling park area, giving directions. Army brass band on horseback parades through city street. Various WA shots of SA drilling, CU men, good. VS Ernst Rohm, leader of the SA, excellent. VS Hindenburg's funeral, Hitler in attendance, good. CU coffin with soldier's helmet and swords on top. VS army swearing oath of allegiance to new leader, Hitler, excellent shots, CUs and pans. Army choir sings, Hitler and Goering watch from window. 02:51:53:08>>>B/W 1934 1934, excellent material of Hitler speaking to mass gathering of Germans, shows off his oratory style very effectively, and crowds response. Nazi banners and flags hang from building over street. Sign on building's facade, Ein Fuhrer. Hitler digs with shovel. MS train speeding along track, Teue dem Fuhrer written across one car. Hitler snips ribbon to open autobahn. Hitler talks to man, puts his hands on his shoulders. Dirigible with swastika printed on it. 02:54:42:26>>>B/W 1930s 1940s Women file past Goebbels, who smiles at them. Brief shot of Hess nodding at woman filing past him. Goering touches woman's, or child's face, brief. Hitler puts money into collection can ? VS Nazi Christmas party - children are offered toys. Excellent shot of Goebbels blowing into harmonica and then offering it to boy. Goering laughs out loud surrounded by children and Santa Claus. German industry montage - excellent. 02:55:32:05>>>B/W 1930s 1940s Wow! Hitler being driven though stadium in Volkswagen Beetle prototype. 02:55:51:04>>>B/W 1930s 1940s Excellent shots of Nazi Utopian plans for model city. INT museum, PAN nude sculptures of ideal man. Hitler and entourage tour museum, look at art work. 02:56:54:11>>>B/W 1930s 1940s Truck-load of Brown Shirts drive through city street with young men cycling alongside of them. They chant and carry swastika flag. CU sign with skull and cross bones, ACHTUNG JUDEN. Anti-Semitism. Brief shot of people pasting paper signs on wall. 00:59:52:28>>>B/W 1930s 1940s MSP-6 ACHTUNG JUDEN sign. VS Germans paste anti-Semitic posters on wall, surrounded by children who watch. Brown shirts picket outside of Jewish establishment. Anti- Semitic signs in Jewish shop window. Star of David painted on store window, people gathered outside, gawking. Group of brown shirts and other young men chant. 01:00:08:16>>>B/W 1930s 1940s CU uniformed Nazis and university students throw books, written by Jews, or other threatening authors, on bonfires. Nazi officers sit and sing as fire burns. 01:00:54:18>>>B/W 1930s 1940s PAN mountain range, Berchtesgaden. Eva Braun picking flowers in field, good. Braun is playfully thrown into water by male friends. Hitler with Braun and others in large drawing room. 01:02:27:06>>>B/W 1930s 1940s CU boys in band playing drums, brief. Montage of Hitler Youth, from very young boys drilling and wrestling to CU of adolescents standing to attention, good. VS Nuremberg rally from Triumph of the Will. 01:03:45:28>>>B/W 1930s 1940s Foreign diplomats visit Hitler, includes Vatican, or Roman Catholic representative. VS Hitler welcomes International visitors and politicians at the Reich's new chancellery in Berlin - EXT and INT shots, good. Hitler reviews military display and drill - artillery guns, air power, tanks and infantry. Ambassador von Ribbentrop, sitting on couch, reads statement to subdue British worries about German militarization. ZOOM IN map of Europe, highlighting countries Hitler is interested in. 01:05:48:02>>>B/W 1936 Invasion of Rhineland, March 7, 1936. German troops march across bridge, advance through town in horse- drawn wagons, on horseback, watched by civilians, good. HA PAN Vienna. Austrians welcome Nazi emissary, crowds lining street, cheer. MS Hans Frank, standing with other men, speaking with conviction. VS street violence and unrest in Austria. MS Austrian chancellor, Kurt von Schuschnigg. German soldier stands guard at Berchtesgaden, swastika flag hangs over balcony. Schuschnigg defies Hitler, but later resigns - MS Schuschnigg independence campaign posters on van, workers hurl literature from moving truck, CU poster Ein Freies Osterreich? Ja! VS Hitler claims Austria, March 12, 1938 - Hitler stands and salutes and waves from convertible. Children are brought to him from sidelines, offering flowers. Hitler smiles, surrounded by children, handing him flowers. 01:08:56:04>>>B/W 1938 INT propaganda ministry, Berlin. CU sign, Vorfuhrung Eintritt verboten - WOCHENSCHAU VS refugees leaving Czechoslovakia (VO says they're faked). German troop mobilization at border. Passenger train streaks across German countryside. British Prime Minister Chamberlain walks with Hitler at Berchtesgaden for talks. VS truck load of arms delivered to Nazis in Sudetenland. Chamberlain is greeted by Hitler for second meeting. PAN packed stadium for huge Nazi rally - banner reads Ein Volk Ein Reich Ein Fuhrer! WS Hitler speaking at podium. VS newspaper headlines, England. British, French and Czech troops mobilize. CU Chamberlain making statement at airport before final meeting with Hitler. Says, When I was a little boy I used to repeat, if at first you don't succeed, try, try, try again. That's what I'm doing. Appeasement. INT Hitler, Mussolini, Goering, and other Nazis chat and laugh. Chamberlain arrives for Munich conference. Premier Daladier of France climbs stairs to conference, shakes hands with Hitler who stands next to Mussolini. PAN of room, Hitler sits on couch while Goering, Mussolini, Chamberlain and others mill about. VS signing of Munich pact, September 30, 1938. Hitler leaves meeting, and building. Tanks roll along Czech city street - Germany occupies Czechoslovakia as people look on. 01:15:23:04>>>B/W 1939 Spring, 1939. Hitler makes speech in response to FDR telegram - when he reads out list of countries FDR mentions re. invasions the audience applauds and cheers, good. Tanks ready for transport - Germany mobilizes for invasion of Poland. 01:16:47:10>>>B/W 1939 CU women in audience watching Nazi feature film. Excellent excerpt of drama - brutish man rips woman's blouse apart (rape subtext) to reveal swastika on chain hanging around her neck. Polish brute rips the necklace from her and woman is stoned. INT Hitler and Goering converse in room with very high ceilings and floor to ceiling windows - both men walk across room with their hands clasped behind their backs. Ribbentrop waves before boarding airplane to Moscow, nighttime (non- aggression pact between Russia and Germany). VS invasion of Poland, September 1, 1939. Montage of invasion attack - tanks roll, air raids, bombs explode, large artillery guns fired, Polish people running through bombed streets. Aerial shot over city in smoke. Russian and German military meet, in field, to establish buffer zone in occupied Czechoslovakia. VS large groups of Czech men under arrest, lined up in street. VS Jewish men, wearing large stars, cleaning street, clearing rubble. 01:19:52:05>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s Brief, German trio sing on stage. Aerial Siegfried line. EXT German soldiers set up speakers, balloons. 01:20:21:12>>>B/W 1930s - 1940s Karikatur German animation, cartoon, mocking England and Winston Churchill - depicts England as wounded lion. MCU Hitler and military leaders strategize over map on table. German paratroopers jump from airplanes, good. Montage of destruction during invasions of Norway, Denmark, Belgium, Holland, and Luxembourg - VS buildings in flames, Luftwaffe bomb and strafe, Panzer tanks and infantry advance, bombs explode, cavalry gallop through city with muddy street - one horse and rider fall, building, engulfed in flames, collapses. VS infantry, under fire, running through city street. Goering and Hitler stroll and talk. Nazi Stuka dive-bombers bombard British evacuation fleet - VS damaged vessels and men being rescued and climbing aboard ships. 01:22:56:06>>>B/W 1940 Excellent montage of German invasion of France - German soldiers advance through towns, French POWs march through city streets and along country road. German soldiers march in Paris, Eiffel Tower in BG, excellent. French citizens watch invading army. German soldiers raise swastika flag. June 21, 1940 - signing of French surrender at Compeigne. Hitler and other Nazi leaders stand outside, laughing and being very jolly. Nazi and French leaders climb aboard railroad car and sign surrender agreement. VS Hitler touring Paris, through desolate streets, POV motorcade. Hitler stands on balcony and looks at Eiffel Tower. Panzer tanks move across fields. German planes take off in formation - VS flying. British look out at Cliffs of Dover. VS British RAF - pilots and crews run and board airplanes. Airplanes take off - aircraft in flight. VS wreckage of Nazi airplanes - British farmers turn over piece of aircraft in field. Nighttime Nazi rally - Hitler is driven through huge crowds, saluting. VS soldiers marching through snow. this section ends at 01:29:07:00 01:29:13:00>>>B/W 1940s : PART THREE ,Rocket in flight. VS German army retreating - infantry, jeeps, trucks, good. VS German soldiers destroying infrastructure as they retreat - using flame throwers, blowing up and ripping up railroad tracks, CU hand turns switch on detonator, building explodes. Winter, 1944-45, Germans build defensive barricades with burnt out trolley car. VS lines of people clearing debris from bombed building, passing bricks along line of women and men. 00:58:11:24>>>B/W 1940s NOTE TIME CODE CHANGE Repeat of clean up and people passing bricks along line. Excerpts from Nazi feature film Kolberg. Recreations of scenes of Prussia's victory over Napoleon - good battle scenes. VS formation of civilian army - Volks Sturm. VS women and men in training, firing grenade launchers. Brief aerial of bombed remains of Berlin. Subdued and tired-looking Hitler shakes hands, and talks with military leaders in conference room. March, 1945, Allied troops advance through bombed German city after crossing the Rhine. VS street fighting, sniper fire, as Allies advance through cities, good. VS German soldiers surrender - one soldier holds white fabric in his hand as he runs across field towards Allied soldier who then searches him. VS German POWs, walking along country road, sitting on ground, being searched. 01:01:21:22>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s VS Berliners watching ice-skating show at rink with no roof, good. Hitler reviews new soldier recruits, shakes their hands, and squeezes one boy's ear. Excellent artillery fire montage - rockets fired during day and at night, medium-sized artillery guns fired, tanks fire, explosions. Russian army reaches Berlin, tank firing in street, soldiers running through bombed out building, over rubble, street fighting. Civilian woman runs through battle - Berlin in ruins, in flames. Russian soldiers run up steps of destroyed Chancellery - VS EXT and INT extensive bomb damage. PAN total devastation of Berlin. 01:04:12:19>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s Eisenhower (?) visits concentration camp, brief. VS German civilians forced to witness corpses at camp. VS bodies lying on ground, in open coffins. Holocaust. German women cry, put handkerchiefs to their faces. 01:05:05:03>>>B/W 1900s - 1940s Nuremberg war crimes trial - prosecute, Robert H. Jackson, makes opening statement. VS courtroom. Nazi defendants, including Goering and Hess, stand in dock and plead not guilty. PAN Nazi defendants in dock, some wearing earphones, dark glasses. 01:06:33:00>>>B/W 1970s VS INT and EXT Dachau concentration camp (1970s ?) PAN children's drawings from camp.
Destruction in Berlin, Germany, seen right after the end of World War II in Europe
Bombed buildings in Berlin, Germany at end of World War II, in Europe. A damaged building. Civilians walking past destroyed buildings. Damaged brick walls of the Anhalter Bahnhof Station. Twisted rails and steel girders in a severely damaged railroad station. Twisted steel girders on a railway track. Bricks cascaded from destroyed Anhalter Bahnhof in the background. A damaged sign board. Ruins of a damaged building. Location: Berlin Germany. Date: July 1945.
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Fall of Berlin, The R4 of 9;
Red Army enters Germany, Battle of Berlin, capture of the Reichstag and Chancellery, prisoners return home, celebrations in Prague, 1944-45
Red Army enters Germany, Battle of Berlin, capture of the Reichstag and Chancellery, prisoners return home, celebrations in Prague, 1944-45. Soviets entering Eastern Prussia, Pomerania and Brandenburg, Germany. Battle for Berlin, fights in the outskirts of Berlin, explosions, heavy guns firing, city destroyed, buildings collapse. Berlin's chancellery, capitulation, Russian flag on the Reichstag, German officers get out from headquarters and surrender, white flags on buildings, inside destroyed building of the Reichstag, swastika on ground among ruins, hand written Russian texts on walls, Russian soldiers happily seated on tank, accordion player. Liberated European prisoners in Berlin, originating from all countries, including man with French flag, start to walk back home after Germany surrendered. Liberation of Prague, Red Army tanks and soldiers welcomed by cheering crowd. Military band of the Red Army, big outdoor concert, most probably in Prague as well.
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INTERVIEW WITH PETER BOENISCH, CHIEF EDITOR OF BILD-ZEITUNG DAILY NEWSPAPER Peter Boenisch 16:39 I do not think that Goldwater is a fascist, because one is an extremist in defending freedom. It's just the opposite of one of if one is an extremist, in destroying freedom. And I think a fascist is a man who tries to destroy freedom and not to defend freedom. Andrew Stern 17:04 Well, there has been some talk on the European press of making comparisons between Goldwater ism and McCarthyism. Do you think that these are justified at all? Peter Boenisch 17:18 Well, I think McCarthy rarely tried to prosecute the communists. And Goldwater, to me seems more to be ready to fight the communists, Andrew Stern 17:38 as Senator Goldwater were to be elected president of the United States. What effect do you think that this would have on US foreign policy, Visa V. Germany, Peter Boenisch 17:48 Well as a German who lives in a divided country, and is probably more confronted to communism as the people in your country are. I would not be sorry, if American policy gets stronger toward communism. And this is not because we are cold war enthusiasts. But because we believe that toughness and readiness is a better weapon to keep peace in relation to the communist, then it is weakness and appeasement. Andrew Stern 18:35 In the eyes of the German in what ways could American policy be tougher? Peter Boenisch 18:40 For instance, I think Golwater was right at one point that that was one of the greatest mistakes of American policy, that in the fall power city, Berlin, they admitted to the communists to build up the wall without doing anything against it. Andrew Stern 19:02 Do you think that there was something lacking in American foreign policy and the fact that perhaps they weren't aware enough of the continuing threat of communism? Peter Boenisch 19:13 What I think it had changed all the time, some years, they were very much aware, especially if they were under Russian pressure, because this is one of the nice things and democracy that if you put them under pressure, then they get up and they don't want to be terrorized, neither by a minority nor by foreign enemy, nor by a foreign partner. And I think this is a very good reaction. But on the other side, it is very dangerous that if the Russians are starting to kiss babies, and to smile friendly and to have such It was cozy looking man like Mr. Khrushchev is sometimes then the Western word likes to forget how dangerous these people can be in the next second, and in the next minute, if they have the opportunity to do so.
Construction of the Berlin Wall
Under the observation of East German troops, construction on the Berlin Wall continues. A sign in front of one of the construction areas reads "Wer uns angreift wird vernichtet" (anyone who attacks will be destroyed). Soldiers lift up wooden beams that will placed along the wall. Another sign announces "You are leaving the American sector." A soldier pauses behind a stretch of barbed wire.
Cuba and Berlin Wall
1961 US oil refinery in Cuba - President Kennedy with advisors - landingcraft onto beach USA Cuban refugees arrive in USA - Cuban soldiers being trained - US carrier - figters take off Destroyed Cuban aircraft - US carrier - Castro - landingcraft on beach - Cuban invaders now prisoners USA/Cuba Cuban invaders return the USA - Castro surrounded by his soldiers Russia/Germ.. Communist leaders on 'the' balcony in Red Square - building of the Berlin Wall - Brandenburger Gate Germany East Germans leave for the west via the Brandenburger Gate
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The 20H of Darius Rochebin: [issue of July 09, 2022]
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Interview with John Loftus pt 2
INTERVIEWER:,How did you become an expert on the Middle East and Arab history?,50:44:03>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, Yeah you know unless you have a couple thousand dollars to spend on a bio warfare suit and the supplies don't go. You'll just put another strain on the resources. ,INTERVIEWER:,They don't want tourists?,49:57:09>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, Well I made the mistake of asking my friends in the intelligence community to tell me every dirty trick we ever pulled on Israel and put it in the book called The Secret War Against the Jews and that came out in 91. and I think ever since then I have been deluged with people from various intelligence communities with more and more information about what's really going on in terrorism. I visited Jonathan Pollard in prison and heard his side of the story and I think that's gonna be a very interesting way to have a new book about how we got involved in this? Why are we at war in the Middle East? What could we have done differently? And quite frankly I think that our policy makers both democrats and republicans had a people that were blinded to ah the growing rise of Saudi founded terrorism. And that's the bottom line for me is there was enough money to generate a whole wave of terrorism. The Saudis use to brag that everyone in our State Department is so nice to them because they know when they retire they'll be taken care of. see it's not a bribe if you don't pay the money till them until the day after they leave government service. Then give them a book contract or a consulting contract.,51:53:13>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, A lot of double dipping. Steve Emerson did a very good expose of that. um so the Saudis found you can't by the US government but boy you can rent corners of the State Department. ,INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE?,52:19:08>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, Yeah I have a, I think there's a lot of people within the US that if you give them enough money they would ah express their anti-Semitism in the form of terrorism. There was a sweet little professor at the university of South Florida named Sammy Alarian and a bunch of my friends in the CIA and FBI came and said look this guys a major terrorist. He and this professor Mashala are running Islamic jihad. Professor Shala by that time had taken off to Syria. He's now publicly known as the world leader of the Palestinian Islamic jihad. But professor Alarian was still there. ,INTERVIEWER:,Ramadan Shala?,52:55:23>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, Yeah Ramadan Shala was the ah 95 took over the Palestinian Islamic jihad. He's probably the leading director of suicide bombs into Israel. And ah but his partner in America, I couldn't believe the evidence professor Alarian was traveling around the country video taping terrorist conventions. And was being introduced as the head of Islamic jihad in America which is called by a different name you know for security reasons. And um after Alarian speaks he's standing under the poster for the passing Islamic jihad and the man who introduced him gets up and says now who will give me $500 to kill and shoot. We have people standing by in Jerusalem who will go out and stab at you. Who will give me $500 and make your checks out to ICP. ICP was Sammy Alarian's Florida charity. These guys were getting tax deductions for terrorism. The money would come the Saudi charities in Virginia, through Sammy's charities in Florida straight to the Islamic jihad to send suicide bombers.,54:04:17>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, A remarkable system. So I drew up a lengthy complaint filled with classified information and I, because of my previously high security clearances I had to give CIA and the other government agencies warning and give them an opportunity to sensor the complaint. And ah the FBI came to visit me and said how'd you find out some of this stuff there are only 21 people in the US government knew this now you're 22. said sorry I can't tell attorney client privilege. The day before I was to file the complaint I got a call from the justice department. They said please give us more time we really are gonna shut down the Saudi charities in Virginia that fund the terrorist groups. I said yeah that's what you told me in January and again in February and now it's March. So I'll give you till 4 o'clock tomorrow (PAUSE) And so I filled my complaint under embargo at 10 and an hour later the government launched operation green quest.,54:58:22>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, They finally raided the Saudi charities. and as they're digging through the computer records, that's why you see in the crackdowns on the Hamas groups and the Islamic jihad groups and all the little terrorist groups the Saudis were funding here. It was easier for the Saudis to fund terrorists groups in the United States because our surveillance was so weak. The minute they heard the word Saudi they just all turned away. And so they were actually having terrorist conventions in the United States because we were the safest place in the world for terrorist to meet.,INTERVIEWER:,Are we getting the John Malvo story right or is he possibly a ?,55:36:22>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, No he was just a nut case. I don't think there's much to that. I think these guys are (PAUSE) there will always be that sick 1% of the public that you know wants to be known throughout history. Look at Saddam Hussein there is a man who gives himself the Hitler salute in the mirror everyday. I mean he wants to go down in history as the Arab Hitler. He's may say he's mad or pathologically evil but he's still a genius. He still has an awful lot of power. Ah people like him we made mistakes in tolerating that kind of behavior. We should have been advocating democracy, education, tolerance. Instead we were letting the worst bigots and the dictators rise to power as long as they sell us oil at a discount.,INTERVIEWER:,What would you say is the wisdom for the Bush Middle East policy?,56:31:11>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Well I think the current Bush administration is very different than his dad ok. His dad was the leading Saudi lobbyist. Vice president Bush pounded the table in front for Ronald Reagan saying that we should bomb Israel. We should bomb and Israeli airbase because they had just bomb the Ociac reactor in Iraq. And Saddam Hussein was our friend. Luckily Regan talked former president Bush out of that.,56:55:09>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Young President Bush is a very different guy towards Israel. Um a few years ago a friend of mine from Florida Mel Semler who is now our ambassador to Rome. Back then Mel took governor Bush to Israel and their tour guide was Sharron. So the 2 men got to know each other. They toured the whole country and it really changed his attitudes. So unlike his father and his grandfather for the first here is a you know a member of the Bush family who is really pro Israel. That's never happened before. ,INTERVIEWER:,Anything else on George Bush Senior ?,57:34:07>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Well for years after he left office former President Bush were partners with the Bin Laden family. With a company called the Carlyle Group. And they were the leading lobbyist for the Saudis in Washington DC. The Carlyle Group is probably the most influential firm for the Saudi interest. And after 911 the Bin Laden family quietly resigned and they're allowed to leave the United States under very expedited circumstances so as not to embarrass the President, the former President. There's a lot of things that will be coming out on that.,INTERVIEWER:,What about the Bush policy to replace Arafat?,58:27:07>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I it is true that we sort of were heavy handed in our demand that they replace Arafat as the Palestinian leader. It also true that most of the Palestinians desperately want Arafat to go. But on their own time and their own schedule and they will all rally together if we tell them he must go. I think Arafat is not gonna out live or outlast Saddam Hussein. That Saddam Hussein is really the last major money source for Arafat and as the American intelligence groups go through the Iraqi archives the money trail to Arafat is becoming clearer and clearer. We know the money has been funneled to him to launch terror attacks in Israel. The Syrians know this too. The Syrians have told all of their terror groups to have no communication with Arafat because they're afraid that ah once the US goes into Iraq and find the links to Arafat that they're gonna blame Syria for these attacks against Jews., INTERVIEWER:,You mentioned so many things calling attention of police besides Israeli policy, settlements (PAUSE)Israeli checkpoints. Can you really INAUDIBLE or are they actually a solution?,00:25:22>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I think that Israel has a reactive policy towards terrorism that every time there is a new terrorist attack they close down the checkpoints and have more security precautions. And all that does is disrupt the Palestinian economy further and irritate the moderate Palestinians. Um the Israelis ultimate weapon is the economic one. The average resident of Gaza there's a per capita income of 1,700 a year. the average Israeli 17,000. 80% of Palestinian families derive their income from the Israeli economy. They have really no economy of their own. By closing down the Israeli economy it's really bankrupted the Palestinian people. They have had no benefits form the peace process and all of the burdens. Um we need to think outside the box. You know I think if you just build a wall around Israel it's very expensive and ah it will effectively sentence the Palestinian people to a lifetime of misery.,01:29:18>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,One of the things being suggested, and this is sort of interesting, is that we do in Iraq what we did in Afghanistan. Find the last king put him back on the throne, hold a constitutional convention. Well the Hashemite's were the last king in Iraq. So the king of Jordan's family could effectively reassume the throne of Iraq . they're descendants of the prophet Mohamed. It would be a step towards the restoration of the Kal--- INAUDIBLE . So you would see you know a Kurdish province, a Suny province, a Shea province maybe even a Palestinian province. There's a lot of talk about giving the West Bank back to Jordan. Right now they don't want to do it because the it would upset their demography so much. the Palestinians would have an overwhelming majority. But ah it is interesting that if you immerge Iraq and Jordan then the Palestinians become a tiny minority in a much larger kingdom.,02:26:23>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Now the Jordanians have no love for Palestinian terrorists. I mean King Abdullah's grandfather Abdullah the 1st was killed in 1948 precisely because he wanted to make peace with Israel. In black September the Hashemite's killed more Palestinians in 1 month than Israel has killed in 50 years. So Arafat would not survive long under Hashemite dynasty. 5 thousand Hasemite troops have been quietly moved into the West Bank in the last 30 days. 12,000 more are scheduled to arrive in the next 12 months. and to build have up a total of some 20,000 Hashemite troops. What I think you're going to see over the next year or two is that the king of Jordan will gradually take police power over the West Bank the Israelis will pull out. the king of Jordan, from what I'm told from my friends in the intelligence community, is quietly willing to offer the settlers dual citizenship. They will be both Jordanian and Israeli. So they can stay in site. ,03:33:21>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Um it'll be interesting to have Iraq and Palestine and Jordan all ruled by Hashemite ruler who is at peace with Israel, pro-western and favors democracy. , INTERVIEWER:,Doesn't sound like much of a majority to have Hashemite rule 3 societies each one of which the majority is non hashemite. Isn't that against Bush's whole theory of spreading democracy?,04:02:22>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,The idea 1958 Iraq actually had a democracy. It was headed by a monarchy as there was in England but they had a parliament it was a working functioning system. They want to restore that. but the idea is that by going back to the way things stood before World War I um the southern caliphate of Arabia you can unite all disparate and ethnic groups but with a democratic base. Each one would have autonomous self rule in their own province but be part of a democratic collation presided over if name if not in fact by the Hashemite's. now this whole idea is terribly threatening to the Saudis. Because they were the ones that threw the Hashemites out of Mecca and Median at gunpoint. And the idea of the Hashemites returning is horrible. Almost as bad of a democracy. Democracy and the Hashemites is the ultimate poison to the Saudis.,INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE?,05:05:17>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I don't think that the current administration is going to stop short. I think that we're gonna all the way in. we're gonna establish democracy in Iraq. There's been a lot of skepticism we're doing it for oil. People don't get it we don't really care who pumps the oil in Iraq. You know we'd be happy to hold it in trust for the Iraq people and not take a penny of profit. We've already made that offer. What happens is that once the Americans go in and establish a democracy in Iraq the sanction limits end. Iraq is only allowed to pump 1 million barrels a day. potentially it could pump 5 to 8 million almost as much as Saudi Arabia. So we wouldn't have to buy oil from the Saudis anymore. More importantly however pumps the oil whether it's Iraq companies or French companies on behalf of the Iraqis American ones more oil in the world causes prices to fall. Oil prices have the elasticity of a chain they go right down.,06:01:22>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,So if we dropped oil from 30 or 40 dollars a barrel down to 19 or 20 dollars a barrel that would effectively bankrupt Saudi Arabia. ,INTERVIEWER:,Is Saudi Arabia next? Is Saudi Arabia the next target for change? What is next? ,06:17:10>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Libya. ,INTERVIEWER:,What happens next? ,06:24:23>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Do you remember a weird speech that was made about the axis of evil ok. there's a bit to that. um when we go into Iraq we expect that we will find a document saying that some 405 Iraqi nuclear scientist have been moved to Libya. And that they're being equipped with plutonium from North Korea. That Kadafi has completed hallowing out a mountain to build a nuclear bomb assembly plant. And this hallowed out mountain is impervious to conventional bombings. Um so ah remember Bunker Buster bombs we used in the Gulf War it would go through 100 feet of concrete then explode. Well we have a new one now that may penetrate a 1000 feet of rock. And it can either carry a thermo barrack warhead or more likely a miniature nuclear bomb that would fry all the nuclear inside the mountain but collapse the mountain on top so no radiation escapes.,07:29:08>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,When we go into Iraq I think you're gonna see an intelligence treasurer trove. You're gonna find illegal weapons with French manuals and Cyrillic markings. We already know there were 80 German companies that were supplying Saddam Hussein. how many of them of were acting in violation of UN embargo. They've been doing it all along. I think Saddam Hussein is so confident because he knows precisely that France, Russia and china are making a fortune. They're all exporting his oil right now. the UN bureaucracy is making a fortune. The UN gets 2% of all the oil sold out of Iraq under their sanctions program. That's their administrative fee. It's the largest cash cow in UN history. And the bureaucrats don't want the gravy train to end. French companies have 60 billion dollars worth of contracts in Iraq. They don't want it to end. And the Chinese want to get a foothold in the area. So they're willing to start trouble too. In the long run it's all about the oil.,INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE? ,08:52:18>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,The multinational corporations are the last pirates in the world. They look after multi national interests and not after American national interests and it's time we realized that. these guys are out to make a buck. Oil prices are going to drop in the long term not just because of Iraq. In 5 years from now we we'll have finished a pipeline across Afghanistan. The new Caspian base oil discoveries are about the size of the Alaskan ones. We're gonna help the Russians build a pipeline to the pacific ocean to ship Russian oil to California. So the worlds gonna be a wash in oil in a very short time. um and every 10 years someone says that we're gonna run out of oil 10 years and that's been going on since 1910. um and we keep finding you know new and better oil discoveries.,09:39:01>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I think that President Bush was right, I hate to admit it I'm a democrat, but he was right about ah we do need to switch to the hydrogen fuel cell approach. You know our coal fields can generate in an environmentally safe manner and have hydrogen to run everything in the United States. The waste product is pure water. And that's not so bad.,INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE? ,10:06:10>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,There's a major war going on inside the White House right now between what I call Bush's daddy's crowd the old oil and the traditional you know support the Arabs at all cost cause they're selling us the oil and the new people Condoleeza Rice I think is an absolute genius. Um and she really knew these terrorist groups back when the Russians were funding them. and now that the Saudis are funding them she knows how to the game is played. So I think there's a real sense in the White House that we simply can't afford to give into dictators anymore. No more appeasing the Saudis. 9/11 showed us the price that we have to pay for that. Um we have to bring democracy to the Arabian peninsula. We should have done it 50 years ago. Better late than never.,INTERVIEWER:,Will Saudi Arabia become an out right enemy or will it not go quite that far do you think? ,10:57:21>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Um one of the problems is if you take away the Saudi royal family you probably get some provinces in Saudi Arabia that would vote for Osoma Bin Laden. Ok so there is some sense that maybe the best thing to do is simply to back off turn our attentions to Iran and Libya.,11:16:25>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Iran is ripe for a democratic revolution. 83% of the population want the Mullahs out they want democracy back. I think we should support that.,INTERVIEWER:,Pakistan's run by INAUDIBLE and they've got nukes. ,11:35:12>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, I would say that about 25% of the Pakistani population would be supporters of the Islamic extremists but because of the peculiarity of the Pakistani electoral system those extremists have an inordinate impact on ah the legislation. Pakistan is, is only a democracy in a name. It really isn't it's a dictatorship. It's controlled by the army. Turkey is much the same problem. They have about 25% of their population are you know hardcore Muslim radicals but the army literally controls the power behind the scenes in Turkey. What we're finding out is that education, freedom of the press really destroys a lot of the old myths. They find out that um Israel is not in some crusading alliance with America to destroy Islam. That Israel has been respectful and tolerant of Islam. That we're not the enemy. That maybe the enemy all along has been Muslim dictators who distract their own people with waves of anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism. I mean we need to do a better job of educating the kids over there so we don't have another generation of bigots.,INTERVIEWER:,If we're able to pop up democracy all over the Middle East will Jews get a break? ,13:58:26>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,If democratic states pop up all over the Arabian peninsula yeah I think it would be good for Israel. In the first place it would cut off rogue states and communication with each other. Democratic nations rarely vote to go to war or institute terrorism. But you know Israel and America share a common bond apart from you know love and respect for each other we are modern nations. That's one of the reasons I believe that Israel has been so persecuted for you were the first religion in the world to require literacy to practice your faith. By the year 85 BC every Jewish village no matter how small had to have a teacher. Widespread public education. And I think that that caused a tremendous growth not just culturally but in terms of business that the Jews became the postmen of the Middle East because they could always read and write. And wherever Jews settled they could recreate their culture . they were the people of the book. Um I think Asian kids in California maybe they're the new Jews today. you know they arrive in this country within 1 generation they're talking about too many Asian valedictorians let's put quotas on Asian kids in med school and law school. Exactly what's done to the Jews in the US 30 years ago.,15:17:15>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,So ah the only way for Jews to safe is to increase the education levels of their neighbors to the point where they can understand that you know how they have been manipulated into hating Jews and hating America. Modernity isn't the enemy. Ignorance is the enemy.,INTERVIEWER:,What should be the future of Israel now that the cold war is over and the paradigm has changed? ,15:44:12>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,We should be open and honest about our relationship with Israel. I remember in the Gulf War we actually flew wounded soldiers in planes over Israel to have them treated in hospitals in Germany. You know how many kids had their lives endangered because we didn't want to use perfectly world class hospitals inside Israel. It was as if we were embarrassed to be allies of Israel. We're not embarrassed anymore.,INTERVIEWER:,Can you expand on that? ,16:15:09>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Well I think that ah someone said Israel is Americas largest aircraft carrier. That ah we are of a great staging area both in Haifa where we bring supplies ashore and in Alat. One of the reasons we were concerned about Alat and Akaba was that Akaba was the port where we were gonna be resupplying a lot of the troops going into Iraq. We were concerned about chemical attacks in that area. That's why ah there's a battery of the new improved patriot missile and the new arrow 2 missile that section we have to keep the ships bringing the supplies in (PAUSE) training with the Israelis. We're learning a lot from Israeli tactics in urban warfare for example when we are going to send armored units it to seize the inter sections and strong points. But the door to door stuff will only be done at night when we use night vision glasses. We have a new imaging device that can see through walls. We have thermo barrack hand grenades that can stun the occupants without waves of concussion without setting everything on fire and burning the building down. So ah you know one general told me recently that he thinks we're gonna see more red white and blue flying in the streets of Baghdad when we liberated them like we did in Kabul., ,17:35:29>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, And Israel has played an important part of this. Israeli intelligence has been terrific. Israeli pilots have been flying our special forces troops into Iraq to prepare for the war. If the war goes as smoothly as people think it will be in no small part due to the contributions of Israel to the military campaign. ,INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE? ,18:40:22>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I think the greatest hoax of all time the best con game is that myth of the Palestinian refugee. The Arab states are saying there's 3 million 6 million Palestinian refugees. Here are the facts. the British took a census before 1948. there were exactly 460 thousand Palestinians living inside what is now Israel. Um after the 48 war of independence 140 thousand remained. So 320 thousand people left. That's all that's left that's all there ever was exactly 320 Palestinian refugees. Now the Israelis to their credit said that they're responsible for about 1/3 of that. they did have some military units kind of chase people out. but it's clear overwhelmingly clear that 2/3 of those 300 thousand they were ordered out by the Arab governments to get out of the way because they were gonna drive the Jews into the sea. They abdicated their areas under orders from the Arab leaders.,19:40:18>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Um so 320 people where did the rest of those refugees come from. Well they weren't refugees. Everyone who was poor in the Arab world who lives in Gaza the West Bank got refugee status in order to go on welfare because we were paying through the United Nations. And so all of a sudden instead of the 320 thousand refugees you get 3 million refugees. And they're not really refugees at all they're people who live in the West Bank always lived in the West Bank didn't flee anywhere but they're counted as a refugee simply because they're on the welfare rolls of the UN. ,INTERVIEWER:,What do really know that intelligence wise about the start of this conflict? ,20:29:15>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I think the second intafata occurred because of Arafat had to stop the peace process. Um one of his negotiators meet privately with one of the intelligence people after the Barak plan was put before them. and ah the negotiator said my god if we can not make peace with you on these terms we don't deserve to have a nation. The Palestinian negotiator ah made explicit promises with authority the idea about the refugees retuning to the Palestinian state to Israel concessions would be made. It was all signed and ready for Arafat's signature. Arafat came running in and reversed his own negotiators on many points. Arafat single handedly wrecked the peace process.,21:18:21>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,I think the Israeli counsel general was, was right that Arafat wants the status quo. He can go on stealing money from his clan. Um and if he has a nation his theft will be diluted. Israel has said that Arafat has stolen some 3 billon. CIA estimates are 5 billion dollars. Ah it's a scandal. And the Palestinian people more than 80% of the polls know that Arafat's a crook that he's stealing money from them. but um I think you have to distinguish between the indigenous Palestinians who always you know lived at peace with Israel pretty much and you know worked in jobs in Israel economy. And the Oslo exiles that came in with Arafat. As far as I'm concerned they were just a gang of thugs that did what every other Arab dictator has done you know use and exploit the people for his own benefit.,INTERVIEWER:,I see a lot of similarities with anti-Semitism and what went on pre World War II. Expand on that concept and could it happen here in the United States? ,22:54:28>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,Yeah. It's interesting to look at the parallels between anti-Semitism in pre World War II Germany and what's going on now. Germany was a society that was considered the most advanced most civilized in the world and they have a very high percentage of secular Jews in its capital city Berlin although there were a tiny portion of the population. But ah any time you get a small ethnic group that values education it's gonna do well financially. And it's gonna be a pain in the neck to all of us fat, happy, lazy Germans or Americans who ever we are. Um groups that have stressed education as a part of their culture invite envy. We banned Jews from farming in the 4th century cause we were having all Christian farmers go to Jews and ask them to bless their fields. Well you know any farmer who can read and write is gonna out produce an illeterate farmer. And the Jews would learn about crop cycles and things like that.,23:51:18>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,So we simply banned them from farming and drove Jews into urban professions. The idea is that Judaism is a very wonderful religion but the core to its values this concept the modernity of justice, of education of lifting ones self up and bettering individual and society. Um that's why I think the Jews and the Irish get along so well. My mother always said the Irish were one of the lost tribes of Israel. My dad says it couldn't possibly be true we couldn't be related because the Jews can't drink and the Irish can't cook so.,24:24:05>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,But anti-Semitism you know when Hitler began to come to power the idea was the Jews were the scapegoat. They could be blamed for the failure of the German community for the German leadership in the World War I. They could take the blame. The League of Nations stood by (PAUSE) rose in wave after wave. We did nothing. Same thing happened in 67. United Nations promised you know Israel would be free from international blockade and we pull all the UN observers out. we ran away. That exactly invited the cycle of response that we're fighting against now. the Iraqis think that the UN sanctions are meaningless. They could laugh at us so do the North Koreans. So anti-Semitism is always a political tool for exploitation. For political reasons you know it's you can always dig up this kind of thing. There's a very sad joke from the holocaust. Um during the Spanish civil war there was a brief lull in the fighting and one man yelled across the trenches José why are we fighting each other. We're both Catholics. We're both Spaniards. We speak the same language. Why why are we having this civil. And the voice yelled back it's because of the Jews. And the man said but there are no Jews in Spain anymore. He said that's why we're fighting each other.,25:54:23>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,And so historically the Jews have been a convenient, readily, identifiable scapegoat target for political exploitation. In the 11th century the French would throw the Jews out take their money then ransack them back in. they treated them like a yo-yo. Um but through all that the Jews were the keepers of the flame of modernity. You know that every generation kid by the time he's 13 has to be able learn to read and write. That was a tremendous advantage to the Jews in terms of their intellectual growth and their preservation of their cultural identity. And it offended the Christians during the dark ages. That the Christians were you know dying of the black plague. One of every 3 Christians died in Europe. Only 20 thousand Jews died. What was the difference. Well you know once a year the Jews would clean up every scarp of food in the house. They would change the plates and clean it up. um at saka they would literally move out of their houses for 3 days. Well lice and fleas wont last for 3 days without a host. So the book of Ludavictis was actually sort of the worlds first pubic health code. The Jews were healthier people. Now when the Christians saw this during the dark ages they thought well we're gods chosen people the Jews are prospering therefore the Jews must have started the plague.,27:12:16>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,and all the greats myths of the medieval ages of the Jewish blood line. That's how it began it was you know envy of a superior culture and that culture was based on literacy. Um Germany was a very literate society but the Jews again were an easily identifiable target and you could whip up a wave of propaganda against them. now the western world has been silent for the last 20 years while Arab propaganda has been flooding the world with myths and lies about Israel. And the Israelis unfortunately haven't reacted well they just simply haven't bothered to rebut them. they just shrug off their shoulders and say so what else is new. Um it has not been a priority for America. It is now. I think the most important thing we need to be doing is to reeducate people that they have been lied to about what is going on. That Israel is not the aggressor. Israel isn't the invader. Israel has been trying desperately to make peace. It may take a while to change some minds but I think change will come.,INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE? ,28:22:05>>>, JOHN LOFTUS:,We have to reeducate the world that Israel is not the aggressor. That Israel is not the invader. That Israel is desperately willing to work for peace. It's gonna take a long time to change the minds of the people in the Middle East but change will come inevitably.,INTERVIEWER:,In the long run Democracy and literacy is the key to peace in the region, Middle east? ,28:43:05>>, JOHN LOFTUS:, In the long run countries where the population are very literate and they express control of their lives democracy are not the countries that wage war. They're not the countries that fund racists terrorist groups. In the long run you're not gonna cure you know racism anti-Semitism until we have democracy and literacy restored to the Arab world. Maybe then we'll go back to the golden age of mimonities when Jews and Muslims lived in peace with each other.
Berlin, Germany & Vienna, Austria. <br/> <br/>German title reads 'Berlin / Wien: Gross - Razzia Gegen Schwarzen Markt'. <br/> <br/>Several shots of the street scenes in Berlin, tanks and soldiers on the streets, heavily bombed buildings. Various shots of large crowd being rounded by the British military police during Black Market raid. Various shots of the policemen rounding, searching and arresting large groups of men and women. Two lorries with prisoners driving along street. <br/> <br/>Title reads 'Wien Heute'. <br/>Various shots of heavily bombed historic buildings in Vienna, Austria. Voiceover lists a number of the destroyed buildings, Urania, Opera House, Sports Centre, bridges across Danube, hotel Metropole, Prater, etc. Plaque on building wall with carved words of Adolf Hitler (Hitler speaking over this). Various shots of the explosions and the soldiers fighting. Various shots of the destruction and bombing of the town, street fights allied soldiers rounding German and Austrian prisoners, escorting them from buildings etc. Various shots of the symbols of the Third Reich coming down - eagles, swastikas, flags etc. Russian troops marching through Vienna. Austrian flag flying from building. Mass crowd on square cheering several elderly men - new government presumably. They shake hands with Russian officers. British soldier talking in camera in German. Various shots of the men and women working at rebuilding the country - rebuilding the houses, working in factories etc. <br/> <br/>Note - date from the old file 10/01/1946. German vioceover. Two names found in the old record Frederick Smith and Dr Carl Renner, connected to Vienna story.
Destroyed Reich Chancellery of Hitler in Berlin, during visit of United States President Harry Truman, post World War II.
President Harry S. Truman of the United States visits Berlin after World War II. Hitler's Reich Chancellery damaged by the fights. The burnt building, shattered windows of the building. A U.S. soldier poses in front of the building. Walls of Chancellery full with marks of gun fires. A Soviet tank kept as a monument on a Berlin road. Destroyed portions of the Chancellery, struck by guns and bombs. Debris of building material. Location: Berlin Germany. Date: July 16, 1945.
College students reconstruct the Berlin Wall in the courtyard of their college
Interview with Gary Bauer
00:06:02>>>,GARY BAUER,My name's Gary Bauer G-A-R-Y-B-A-U-E-R INTERVIEWER:,You've spoken a lot about the Middle East how did you develop interest INAUDIBLE 00:19:16>>> GARY BAUER,I have an interest in the Middle East for two reasons one my Christian faith ah has always lead me to be focused on the holy land INAUDIBLE Israel and the history of my faith and so that's been a very important factor but in addition to that I think not only myself my other Americans focus on the Middle east because we see it as the front lines and the war on terrorism that the United States is engaged in. And when you look at the Middle East Israel is the only real democracy the only nation that believes in the consent of the government has regular elections INAUDIBLE and they've been under siege for many, many years by a collection of dictators thugs and self appointed kings. So ah it's been something that I think many Americans instinctively feel an association with the Middle East and for support for Israel. INTERVIEWER: You mentioned that one of the reasons for your attachment is your Christian faith I was wondering if you could elaborate on how that could bond you to this place all the way out in the desert? 01:00:14:20>>> GARY BAUER,Many conservative Christians particularly and even Evangelical Christian have a real support a real passion for Israel and a real interest in the Middle East because Christian scriptures teach that we are called to bless Israel and that those nations that do so will be blessed themselves. There's also ah a deep regard a deep feeling throughout the Christian world and United States for what's called the Abraham combatant the idea that god made a pact with Abraham ah giving certain land to the Jewish people and Christians in the United States see the reformation of the modern state of Israel in 1948 as a fulfillment of what the bible indicated. So there's that deep religious theological basis that I think ah serves ah to really cause many Americans to support that ah the nation of Israel. INTERVIEWER:,Have you been personally? 01:01:15:19>>> GARY BAUER,I've been to Israel twice ah once ah over a year ago which was my first trip. Ah on that occasion I, I took a letter of support to the Israel government from dozens of Christian leaders in the United States. And then ah I was also in Israel in 2000 and 3 ah to also visit with government officials and talk to the media and try to get across to the Israeli government and to the Israel people that they have many many friends in the United States both political parts that stand with them in this struggle against terrorism. INTERVIEWER: For our viewers who don't know the history what are some for the biblical highlight for Israel for a believing Christian what are some for the places maybe that Jesus had walked or anything like that that come to mind? 01:02:07:00>>> GARY BAUER Well ah my goodness the whole area is ah let me start over. 01:02:12:02>>> GARY BAUER,For, for ah most Christians the whole area of the Middle East and particularly the land of Israel is filled with names and cities and villages that have ah tremendous ah residence in the Christian bible and for believers whether it's Jerusalem or ah going to the areas where Christ ah walked and taught his message. Ah all these things resonate deeply with American Christians and it explains why ah for years and years there have been pilgrimages of Christians to the holy land that, that have unfortunately been interrupted in recent years because of the violence. I think another really important factor in all of this is that Christians know that whenever Israel has been in charge of those holy places Christians have had unfettered access to them. Unfortunately Israelis enemies have a very poor record on this often ah cutting those places off not only to Christians but also to Jews. And I think that's something that ought to be of deep concern to international organizations and the world community at large. INTERVIEWER: Do you have a feel of what would be the best outcome for the Jerusalem negotiations? 01:03:29:02>>> GARY BAUER,Well I, I cannot imagine an a Jerusalem that's not under the sovereignty of the nation of Israel. Ah Jerusalem in fact is the capital and I ah as an America I wish the president who said during the camping that he would want to move the embassy there and recognize it as the capital ah would fulfill that promise and do so. I know there's many pressure ah on him to do otherwise from the state department and so forth but this is the only country in the world where the outside world tries to dictate to who the capital is, what the capital is and how it can be recognized? INTERVIEWER: INAUDIBLE wouldn't that be the position that chitins might be more inclined to embrace after all that way they get their share INAUDIBLE 01:04:27:01>>> GARY BAUER I, I know that the Catholic Church has called for making Jerusalem an international city some special status. But ah ah I think that would be a mistake I think it would send a terrible message to terrorists that terrorism works number one and number two it would ignore the history of Jerusalem and its importance to the nation of Israel. Jerusalem is mentioned throughout the Christian bible as being a center for the people the Jewish people. Ah the history there I think is beyond dispute and those that would divide Jerusalem or somehow rip it out of the nation of Israel and somehow make it ah a separate entity I think have in some cases very bad motives as far as what they hope the future holds for the nation of Israel itself. INTERVIEWER:,INAUDIBLE 01:05:33:04>>> GARY BAUER,Israel has tremendous historical significance to Christians. Ah if you look at a map of Israel almost every name leaps out at you as ah a name that Christians would be familiar with in the bible whether it's ah Bethlehem or Jerusalem or the various places that Jesus Christ ah did his ministry. So American Christians over the years millions of them have traveled to Israel to see those places first hand the places that they learned about Sunday schools and churches growing up not only throughout the bible belt in the united states but ah virtually across the whole country. INTERVIEWER: What would you say are the 2 or 3 main points that the Sunday school story teachers about the holy land? Would you say it's the birthplace of Jesus or INAUDIBLE 01:06:29:22>>> GARY BAUER,Most Christians in the United states whether ah they're in Sunday schools growing up or first being taken to churches ah you learn about key points about the holy land specifically about Israel. Ah certainly Bethlehem as the birthplace of Jesus is ah a very important ah place for average Christians. Any of the sights where the scriptures say that Jesus taught in his ministry ah are places that Christians very early on learned to have great affinity to. But I think perhaps most importantly the Christian bible teaches that the whole land of Israel is land that god made a coveted with Abraham ah about. And that that land was reserved for the Jews. Ah so for Christians when the moderate state of Israel was brought back into existence in, in 1947, 1948 that was considered to be an event of great biblical importance because it was seen as a fulfillment and a reassertion of that coveted that god made with the Jewish people. INTERVIEWER: What is not so well known is that there was indeed Christian kingdom over the land of Israel too the Byzantine empire does that have any relevance or significance INAUDIBLE 01:08:02:24>>> GARY BAUER,Yeah quite my own opinion on ah the Byzantine Empire and it's significance today for Christians is that it's not very significant. Ah perhaps that's unfortunate there's been lots of studies on the lack of history that Americans are taught. But I don't really think for most American Christians that's something they look back to with some sort of longing or yearning. I think the, the Jewish history of the Holy land and Israel is something that quite frankly resonates much more strongly with American Christians.,INTERVIEWER:,The destruction of the Jewish temple INAUDIBLE somewhat concurrent could you give us the relationship and the crucifixion and the destruction and the roman conqueror? 01:08:54:15>>> GARY BAUER,You know I'm really I'm not sure if I'm comfortable is the world I'm really not a theologian and even though I'm seen as a Christian conservative leader it's not really something I'd like want to make a theological point about. INTERVIEWER: INAUDIBLE 01:09:13:10>>> GARY BAUER,Ah well I mean I don't know I think someone like Pat Robinson might be more effective than and the reason I'm hesitant here is I've been working really hard to establish myself as a supporter of Israel for reasons that are broader than my Christian faith. Which is why in the first question I tried to bring it back to that I think it's important for America to support Israel because because Israel is us. We're both democratic capitalist societies we believe in a certain set of values. We're on the right both on the same side of this great divide in the world some call it a clash of civilizations. And I think it's important for Christians and for others to recognize that to brow beat Israel into making concessions in this war is ultimately to hurt America because it undermines our doctrine on how to fight terrorism. To the extent I have to get into more the theology ah I'm gonna be more and more uncomfortable plus I'm not sure it serves my own best interest wanting to be seen as somebody that argues this from a foreign policy standpoint rather ah than just a theological standpoint. INTERVIEWER:,Then we'll move on to where I was headed anyway which is the cold war is over. This idea of Israel as the sort of testing ground of our might against the soviet backed Arab countries that's no longer the case. The worlds getting smaller. Why should this portrait be the same now as it was why does it have to still be 3 billion dollars a year on the line for American? 01:10:55:08>>> GARY BAUER,During the ah cold war with the soviet union Israel had obvious strategic importance for the United states and we made a great deal of investment in Israel because of that. I think many people felt after the Berlin wall came down that the significance of a nation like Israel became much less significant because it was not seen as that bull work against the expansion of the Soviet Union to the Middle East. But ah you know we, we deceived ourselves in some respects. Ah I think Americans and perhaps many other free people around the world had concluded that that world had turned into one big INAUDIBLE. In fact in many places around the world it's still the south Bronx at midnight. 01:11:39:19>>> GARY BAUER And I think 9 11 really brought that home that ah there is a, a racial movement in the world. Hopefully it's a very small part of Islam but it certainly operates in the name of Islam. And it has in its own words declared war on western civilization not only in Israel but also certainly as we saw on 911 on the United States. I think president Bush understands this very well has been has shown tremendous leadership in response to it. But I also think it brings home the, the stark fact that when we look at the Middle East the only reliable friend and ally the united states is Israel. On 9 11 when we were experiencing a lot of pain and a lot of hurt there was celebration in some parts of the Middle East but in Israel they lowered their flag they declared a day of mourning and they cried with us. And I think for many Americans the emotional connection there is something that goes way beyond just an intellectual connection that we're really joined at the heart and Americans understand that Israel is facing the enemy the united states is facing. INTERVIEWER: Do you see the middle eastern the Arab opposition to Israel is that a function of that is or that Israel policy settlement here an expansion there a check point there a security point there or is it a function of something that Israeli society shares with United States? 01:13:13:05>>> GARY BAUER The ah the diplomats keep trying to convince is that the real crux of the controversy here is the west bank or this settlement or that settlement or what happens at a particular checkpoint but I think the evidence is overwhelming that what's at stake is the very existence of Israel which is an affront to the directors that surround them. And also the the fact that Israel is a version of the United States. That is that Israel believes in the same values and springs out of the same Judah Christian civilization. It believes in the consent of the govern and the notion that each individual has human dignity. Ah and I think because of that it is a constant danger to those who would lord it over their subjects or woo their people without giving them the right of self governments. Now I have a deep hope and prayer that democracy will slowly but surely come to the Middle East. I think that's what the president is trying to do in Iraq right now but whatever it comes quickly or not there's is a democracy there right now and that democracy is Israel and the united states must stand with it. INTERVIEWER: President Bush has been a number places on the Israel issues he's spoken INAUBIELB he's also calling for the road map and INAUDIBLE has been arguing against the construction of INAUDIBEL. How would you rate these policies of president Bush on the issue? 01:14:50:22>>> GARY BAUER,I think that president Bush who's been very good on the war on terrorism nonetheless is under many conflicting pressures when it comes to Israel specifically and the Middle East in general. Ah some of them are pressures from out state department. Ah other pressure come from the European union and the United Nations and so forth. So the, the and there's divisions within the administrators. I think that's obvious the Colin Powell and the state department often take a different approach on some of these than lets say secretary of defense Rumsfeld. Ah I think the president has been very good on occasions but I think right now with the road map and some of the other public statements there is some drift away from his own doctrine the Bush doctrine on how to fight terrorism. The security fence is a good example. This is a purely passive fence that attempts to stop homicidal violence from coming into Israel to kill more innocent civilians. Why in the world would anybody in the United States be against such a thing. 01:15:59:19>>> GARY BAUER In fact if it's successful it will stop the type of events that would blow up the peace process. So if one is in favor of the peace process one should be in favor of that practical fence. INTERVIEWER: How did you feel immediately after September 11th? 01:16:19:01>>> GARY BAUER On 9 11 I, I think all Americans did a ah almost immediate reevaluation of their ah assumptions about the world. For me it was particularly personal. I was driving into Washington DC for a press conference and found myself trapped in a massive traffic jam that had nothing to do with the events that were about to unfold. And that traffic jam literally had me about 75 yards from the pentagon. I hadn't moved a half mile in over a half hour. My office had called and told me about what had happened in New York and shortly after that the roar of a jet engine. And then that terrible event at the pentagon ah sort of punctuated the morning. 01:17:05:08>>> GARY BAUER,So um I think 9 11 for all of us was ah a traumatic event and an event that reminded us that even though the soviet union had fell had fallen that even though the soviet union had fallen that there were people in the world who were feverishly working on ways to kill as many Americans possible. We'll never know fully what was, what was planned for 9 11. We do know there were other horrors planned that morning that did not happen because of the bravery of some of our fellow Americans in the skies over Pennsylvania. But 9 11 was an act of war. I guess in modern parlance it was the ultimate hate crime 3,000 people were killed simply because they were Americans. And it should have made all of us reevaluate our assumptions about the world and ah and the cost for freedom. INTERVIEWER: You spoke of before a clash of civilizations. Is there a clash of civilizations and who is it between? 01:18:06:14>>> GARY BAUER I think there is a clash of civilizations going on although I know it's politically incorrect to ah to call it that. Many commentators, many people in the media, many people in academia suggested that America had done something wrong and that's why this death and destruction was bought to us. I think the evidence is much more clear that we're being attached because of the things we do right. That is it's because we believe in the individual dignity of each in of each person. It's because we want free and open societies and believe in religious tolerance. That for a radical Islamist we become the enemy and ah I believe there's a civil war of sorts going on between those that want to bring Islam into the modern world and want to enjoy political pluralism. And those that want to governor every nation by radical Islamic law and want to stamp out any type of competitive fates or competitive political systems. So western civilization is under a real challenge here and the jury is still out I think about where we're going to find the courage and the confidence to defend the values of our civilization. INTERVIEWER: Some Bin Ladin famously called evoked the period of the Middle Ages to describe the fight with America and compared America as today's version of the crusades. Western Christian dominated but Judah Christian whichever a Christian power that ah is at the moment unjustly superior to the constantly invaded invade and exploited Muslim world. What do you make of that kind of a parallel? They even use the Islamic word for crusade or cross bearers. 01:20:06:22>>> GARY BAUER I was really struck when listening to the video tapes of Osama bin laden ah listening to him site history that was hundreds and hundreds of years old and, and history quite frankly that I think probably went over the heads of, of most Americans who really don't go into those kinds of details probably unfortunately in our schools about all the things that have lead up to this moment in our history. Clearly Osama Bin Laden and this branch of Islam is attempting to settle what they see as old scores. Ah history that most people in the world think is long since over and ah that we've moved passed our things that are still burning in the hearts and souls of jihadists. So there's a number of things we have to do. One I think we have to become reacquainted with the history of western civilization. One can debate about whether the crusades were no more good or bad or unfortunate or whatever but we need to understand the crusades and that history if we're going to understand that impulse by Bin Laden to reoccupy in their terms ah the land of Islam. Which apparently when you hear him when you listen to him extends well into Europe and ah into other places that I think would be quite surprising to most people. INTERVIEWER: How has he distorted that kind of history that kind of view of the west? 01:21:37:25>>> GARY BAUER I think what Osama bin laden is attempting to do is picture Islam as a defensive force that is constantly being set upon by the west. Ah he tends to speak in these terms of ah of the west occupying Islamic lands. Ah I think that's a real distortion of the history and in fact when you look at several thousand years of history what you see is Islam ah coming out of various lands in order to conquer territory ah and has on occasion been beaten back before it could occupy more of Europe etc. Ah so there is, there is clearly a different spin here that I think any fair historian would want to ah would want to present if he was looking at the history of Islam and compare it to western civilization. INTERVIEWER: Do you think the road to peace runs through a two state solution territorial compromise? GARY BAUER I'm very dubious about a 2 state solution. I think that first of all there's only one Jewish state in the world and that's Israel. There are dozens of countries that have overwhelming Muslim Islam majorities and so it's somewhat of a mystery to me why yet another such nation has to be created. In addition to that I would argue that Jordan is a Palestinian state in, in many of the ways that many would look at it demographics history and otherwise. From a purely ah ah standpoint of reality I have deep ah doubts that a separate Palestinian state could exist on the west bank between Israel and Jordan. It's hard for me to imagine how it could become economically viable. So my hope is that over time ah the Arab Muslim neighbors of Israel would would take more responsibility for their plantation brothers ah rather than insist that already tiny Israel give up even more land for some fake deal that supposedly will bring peace. INTERVIEWER: How do you feel about INAUBIEL a new Palestinian prime minister taking over for Yassar Arafat? 01:24:12:13>>> GARY BAUER Abu Mazen the new Palestinian prime minister is somebody that ah I think both the president and quite frankly Prime Minister Sharon feel maybe a real partner for peace. Um maybe it's um all of my years of following this controversy but I I'm somewhat dubious. I don't think we can easily or should easily forget that Abu Mazen in his distortion raised real questions about the legitimacy and the historical basis of the holocaust. Ah others have associated Mr. Mazen with the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Olympics a number of years ago. Those are things that I don't think can be easily cast aside. Finally it's not clear to me that Abu Mazen is in fact independent of Yassar Arafat. You know ah the United States legitimately and I'm glad they tried to do it has tried to marginalize Arafat. I'm glad president Bush sited that as a goal. Arafat you know has more lives than a cat. He has sat there for year after year after year and watched American presidents come and go and ah there's a great deal of evidence in the daily reporting that even now he's manipulation the process he's insisting that he'll have final sign off on any peace deal. 01:25:33:02>>> GARY BAUER I would raise one final point Mr. Mazen if you polled the Palestinian people has the support of about 3 percent of them. So Israel is negotiating with somebody and we're pressuring them to negotiate with somebody who it's not at all clear can deliver anything at the end of day. In, in fact the most recent data out of the Palestinian territories when they were asked how do you most trust to look out for the interests for the Palestinians deeply disturbing. The results were first Osama bin laden second Saddam Hussein Yassar Arafat third and Abu Mazen was almost an asterisk in the polling data. INTERVIEWER: INAUDIBLE 01:26:24:13>>> GARY BAUER Yassar Arafat's history of course is well known. The man literally has blood dripping from his hands. He has subsidized and ordered the intention of killing of Israeli civilians and I might add American civilians in Israel over and over again. More importantly or just as importantly just as Hitler was very clear about his plans Arafat has talked and written over and over again about his plans. He's even said for the record that he's perfectly willing to sign at certain times piece peace treaties to get a little piece of Israel here and there while never loosing sight of his ultimate goal overall which is to drive the Jews in the sea, take Israel off the map and replace it with a place called Palestine. INTERVIEWER: You'd mentioned he's watched American presidents come and go as a skilled observer of American politics how is the current present Bush different on beliefs from his father? 01:27:34:01>>> GARY BAUER There's a tremendous fortunately from the first president Bush and this president Bush. I, I think George W. Bush has a ah a real sense of this world co inflict that we're in and I think he was forever changed by the events of 9 11. I think for an American president to get the news that the homeland and the United States had come under attack was really something for president Bush that was a life changing experience. So I believe he has been reevaluating because of those things. The relationships of the united states with counties like Saudi Arabia that have been implicated in sponsoring and subsidizing terrorism. And I think he's ah much more likely to take a hard line a firm like with terrorism than ah than the first president Bush was. 01:28:27:06>>> GARY BAUER,Having said that family is important and I'm sure that his father still attempts to influence his policies but my hope is that ah ah better ideas will prevail and that George W. Bush will continue to promote the Bush Doctrine against terrorism both for the united States and for Israel. INTERVIEWER: What would you say are some of the major myths about history about the history of the region that you feel need to be corrected? 01:29:01:14>>> GARY BAUER There are many myths about Israel and about the Middle East that are now being accepted as the gospel truth and ah those of us that are friends of Israel I think have to work very hard to, to try to counter some of those. You know one of those myths is that the only refuges that matter here are the Arab Palestinians that left Israel in 1947, 1948. One myth is that they were driven out quite the contrary. Ah the other Arab nations in the area urged that they leave Israel because those Arab nations were going to attempt to strangle the infant nation of Israel in it's crib. That war to try to destroy Israel started almost immediately and that's why many of the Arab Muslims left the nation of Israel. But there were other refuges too hundreds of thousands of Jews were in fact driven out of the surrounding nations into the nation of Israel. Israel welcomed them with open arms took care of them, attempted to help them establish new lives in the nation of Israel. If only the Arab Muslim nations would have welcomed their Palestinian refugees with the same sort of attitude in fact if you go back and look at the history around world war II one of the unfortunate facts of that war is that there were millions of refuges all over the world. Most of those refuges were assimilated in new countries and new cultures went on with their lives and built ah new lives for their grandchildren and so forth. 01:30:38:00>>> GARY BAUER Only in this one area have we kept as the world community the United Nations and so forth kept people in a perpetual state of being a refugee. Ah keeping them in camps etc. I think another myth is that Israel is an expansionist power. That it's attempted to grow the size of its country year after year after year in fact the history is absolutely clear Israel would have been perfectly content with the land that it was given and it has been the object of one war of aggression after another. 01:31:14:08>>> GARY BAUER Ah Israel in all those wars quite frankly not only won them but was restrained quite often by Europe and by the United States to not completely finish the job. Ah I think it's to their credit that they were willing to be restrained by other west, other western nations. Um I don't know are there some other? INTERVIEWER: You've alluded to history in the past part of the interview you mentioned that bin laden jihadists have a spin of history that shows western powers crusading and conquering into their area. You said it would be a job of a good historian to offer an alternative spin but you didn't quite elaborate what that might be. 01:31:58:00>>> GARY BAUER Right ah and another myth that ah I think the radical Islamists are using over and over again is this notion that all this eland is supposed to be Arab Muslim land ah only theirs and that it's been somehow occupied by a foreign power whether it's American troops ah in Saudi Arabia or whether it's the very existence of a western orientated nation like Israel. In fact of course Jews have been in that region for thousands of years. Some of the area that ah Islam claims as holy land is not even mentioned in their holiest book the Koran. So ah again the history that's being taught is very distorted and something that I think some ah middle eastern um ah departments on leading American university campuses might need to take a hard look at and not worry so much about where they're getting the funding for the Middle Eastern studies but look at history for the reality that it is. INTERVIEWER: What do Americans have in common with Israelis after 9 11 fighting the war on terror? 01:33:09:03>>> GARY BAUER Ah on 9 11 and in the days that followed I heard some Americans say we were all Israelis that day. And I heard some in Israel say we all felt like Americans on 9 11. I think what brought what came home on 9 11 to, to millions of Americans is what Israel is facing day after day after day. We couldn't believe that we were being killed in our offices, as passengers on airplanes ah civilians sitting at our desks in various places. We know now (ring) INTERVIEWER: We are all Israelis 01:34:09:19>>> GARY BAUER On 9 11 I think many Americans felt ah at last that they were in fact Israelis. Ah we couldn't really believe that we were being killed at our places of work at our desks ah on planes, as passengers going on vacation or students going back to school. And I think for the first time it really came home to us that this is what Israel was facing day after day week after week month after month. You know Israel gets tremendous criticism when there are um when there's accidental causalities when they go after a military target. As we saw in Iraq unfortunately that's what happens in war but that's quite different than the intentional civilian casualties that Israelis en, enemies have sought to ah build up over the last 3 years. We've seen Israeli families blown up when they were eating dinner or observing the most sacred Jewish holidays. Ah getting on a bus becomes an act of courage in Israel. Ah the kind of events that I think until 9 11 were just unimaginable for most Americans. INTERVIEWER: Does this have to be a war between Islam and other religions? Is this really Islam committing September 11th and we're coming back at Islam or is there a healing INAUDBLE 01:35:54:00>>> GARY BAUER I believe that ah at the end of the day there is a way to avoid a colossal clash of civilization. But in order to do that those voices in Islam that are willing to embrace pluralism that are wiling to live side by side with people of other faiths, those that believe that terrorism is never a legitimate political tool or military tool those voices have to speak up. Unfortunately ah since 9 11 there haven't been as many voices in Islam speaking about those ideas as one would hope. And even here in the united states many Muslim groups have been much more concerned about taking on themselves that they are somehow victims than they have been in devoting energy and resources and time in condemning those and their own faith that would kill and murder in the name of Alah. So I, I think in some ways we're really seeing a civil war in Islam and it's very important for the future of the world as well as the future of the united states that more moderate responsible voices prevail in this battle. INTERVIEWER: On both sides of this issue there are INAUDIBLE 01:37:27:20>>> GARY BAUER Ah I know there are some out there that suggest that somehow right wig Christians or right wing Jews are really the core of the problem or that they're equally guilty. I've seen bad cases of ah of moral relevance but this one takes the cake. They're aren't any right wing Christians strapping bombs around their waist and then blowing up Muslims or Palestinians. There are no right wing Jews of any consequence who are attempting to have aggression toward the Palestinian people. On my trips to Israel I've looked at Israel textbooks they bend over backwards to teach Jewish children Israeli children ah that peace is the goal that they should live in harmony with their neighbors. Unfortunately quite the opposite is is the fact in the Palestinian areas where children are being taught from maps that don't include Israel and they're continuing to be taught by the whole Palestinian culture that ala wants them to kill Christians and Jews. 01:38:34:04>>> GARY BAUER So ah I don't think there's much comparisons between the two sides and ah a lot of work is going to have to be done to dismantle that culture of hate that I think generations of Palestinian children are being raised in. INTERVIEWER: INAUDIBLE 01:38:58:19>>> GARY BAUER I have a great hope and I know the Israeli people do too that someday we can have real peace in the Middle East. But I think for that to come you're first going to have to have throughout the Middle East freedom. I think that when people Arabs, Jews, Palestinians have the right to vote to elect leaders INAUDIBLE to speak out about their own values then you got history teaches us a real chance for a peaceful democratic nation that live side by side. But as long as you've got thug regimes, nations that continue to subside terrorism and teach their children that they're religion requires them to kill the infidel ah then I think any attempt by diplomats or mere words on a piece of paper will always end up disappointing and not bringing us the peace that people of good will of all backgrounds hope and pray for.
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John F. Kennedy during speech – Kennedy and Nixon campaigning – Kennedy with wife Jackie. Richard Nixon and wife Pat – Kennedy, wife and child – TV debate with Kennedy and Nixon. Voting – Nixon with family after he lost – John F. Kennedy is sworn in – Kennedy speech to large crowd. Kennedy 'Meets the people' – Kennedy at his desk – Castro during angry speech – Eisenhower. US oil refinery in Cuba – President Kennedy with advisors – landing craft onto beach. Cuban refugees arrive in USA – Cuban soldiers being trained – US carrier – fighters take off. Destroyed Cuban aircraft – US carrier – Castro – landing craft on beach – Cuban invaders now prisoners. Cuban invaders return the USA – Castro surrounded by his soldiers. Communist leaders on 'the' balcony in Red Square – building of the Berlin Wall – Brandenburger Gate. East Germans leave for the west via the Brandenburger Gate – signs of communist propaganda. Parade in Red Square – Soviet rocket is launched – US rocket – NASA logo – CU as rocket separate. Earth seen from space – Soviet Cosmonauts, Yuri Gagarin – Soviet rocket is launched – Gagarin waving. 10:05:09:00 - Soviet space centre – rocket launch – Kennedy speaks about the space race - inside NASA. Rocket launch, part of Project Mercury – CU of the Moon – test pilots – Astronauts around model. Blindfolded in flight simulator – G-force test – weightless testing – further testing during 'Mercury'. Rocket launch – astronaut Alan Shepherd – returning – the Moon – Kennedy disembark aircraft. Kennedy during the speech in which he undertakes that a man will land on Moon within the decade. John Glenn is launched into space – view of Earth from spacecraft. Baseball game – Micky Mantle with team mates – further baseball game, this from 1962. Scenes from 'The Apartment' – scenes from 'West Side Story' – inside movie theatre. Marylin Monroe's funeral – Marilyn Monroe – still of Marilyn as baby – newspaper headlines. 10:09:02:00 - Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable in 'The Misfits' – Kruschev with Jackie Kennedy – scenes with Jackie. President Kennedy and wife – Kennedy announces the presence of missile sites in Cuba – still of sites. Fidel Castro meets Nikita Kruschev – parade of supplied Soviet weapons in Havana – U-2 spy-plane. Still of Kennedy and advisors – military parade in Havana – still of Kennedy and advisors. US carrier – US Navy vessels – Kruschev during speech – nuclear explosion. Red Square – nuclear test ban treaty signed in Moscow by USA, UK and the Soviet Union.
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The bomb damaged reich Chancellory and Brandenburg Gate in berlin after World War II.
Bomb damaged Berlin after World War II. The German Reich insignia with the words 'Reichs Kanzlei' at the Reich Chancellory. Shell holes around the insignia. Damaged columns and steps. The Nazi eagle symbol above the steps. Damaged windows in a wall. A car passes a destroyed building. Rubble on the street. A damaged building with an intact gate. Traffic passes under the Brandenburg Gate. The damaged gate. People pass through underneath. The damaged Quadriga driven by Victoria. A sculpture nearby. Location: Berlin Germany. Date: July 1945.
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