HISTORIC WASHINGTON STATE FOOTAGE (EST 1947)
HISTORIC FILM OF WASHINGTON STATE SHOT CIRCA 1947 ON 16MM FILM AND TRANSFERRED TO DIGITAL FILE. PLACES AND INDUSTRIES IN WASHINGTON IN THE LATE 1940s.
PDA-LB-006 Beta SP
SOUTH AFRICA: THIS IS YOUR COMMONWEALTH
AMERICA
Timed leader, 1950's cars in freeway traffic jams (seen again much later), Aerial of traffic on freeway, buildings in film shown on screen, pan to on-screen host Frank Blair (BW), Blair sits behind desk, talks to camera (talks to camera in one place or another throughout), Blair reads booklet, CU typed list of names, one highlighted: BARKER, ELMER D, 149 PLEASANT ST, LOS ANGELES, CALIF, Pan again to color film on screen, horse pulls wagon down street with Victorian houses, Man in early-1900's clothes polishes early-1900's car, talks to camera about car, calls it Model C runabout, Woman in early 1900's clothes out of house, joins man, they talk to camera, CU woman talks to camera, CU man talks to camera, Man puts on coat, Woman climbs up into car, Man says goodbye, Man cranks car from side, letters on hood: RAMBLER, CU woman mildly shaken up as car starts, Man, woman drive away, drive down country road, get stuck, CU wheel in mud, People enter "PALACE OF TRANSPORTATION", super: 1904, Sign over door "PALACE OF TRANSPORTATION", Couple in early-1900's clothes push baby carriage down street, talk to camera, People in various early-1900's cars ride down roads, streets past pedestrians, scaring horses, CU Blair holds up newspaper ("EXTRA AMERICA AT WAR"), Man talks seriously to woman, they embrace, CU hands stack egg cups, egg, small weights, break egg, Man in lab coat holds egg shell, talks to camera, Man holds model of wagon, talks to camera, CU hand holds model of car frame or chassis, no body, CU hand holds models of chassis and body, CU man talks to camera, CU hand holds large bolts, nuts, Man holds car frame, body models, talks to camera, Man holds model of bridge span, talks to camera, CU hand puts bridge model next to car model, Men stand next to partially completed car, talk to camera, point out parts of car, CU part of car, CU hand demonstrates coil springs, Int. partially completed car, Men work on auto assembly line, weld, etc, Front door of house, super: 1941, Tense, discouraged man in apron in kitchen, Boy in nightshirt walks out front door, looks around, sees something, Boy picks up newspaper from lawn, Door closes itself, Boy pushes doorbell, Man in apron tries to serve from frying pan, burns self, yells "ouch!", Annoyed girl in robe gets up from table, man yells at her, Girl goes to door, Boy looks through banister rails, goes "psst!", Girl turns, looks, Girl goes upstairs, yells at boy, CU boy says "Nope", Girls in dresses walk down street, stop, look, laugh, Scared-looking boy in nightshirt looks, CU girl razzes boy, Man in apron goes to kitchen door, yells, Girl goes down stairs, Scared boy knocks at door, girl opens it, he goes in, Girls giggle, CU boy sticks out tongue, Girl, boy trot through living room, Little boy tries to yank newspapers from big boy, girl, Woman in living room in silk robe, Kids wrestle with newspaper, CU woman covers ears, winces, CU girl talks, CU boy talks, CU mother opens door, looks aghast, yells, Man on floor with mess, woman consoles, kisses him, he hands her key, she hugs him, Man, woman talk, Man in suit walks up to front door, CU smiling woman, Man kisses woman in horrible striped blouse no real woman would wear, Man describes car's features to kid (early 1940's model), CU happy man, woman, Man lets boy out of car, CU man listens worriedly (turns out this little story takes place December 7th, 1941!), Men work in defense plant, weld, Men work on tank assembly line, 1930's tanks drive across field (not WWII models), New ship slides into water, Parts of new B-17's lined up in factory, Anti-aircraft gun turns in factory, Navy ships at sea, Sailor sends message with Aldiss lamp (flashing light), Navy ships at sea, guns in foreground, Magazine advertisement for "NASH", Magazine advertisement with art of diving fighter plane, NASH at bottom, Aerial of navy fighter plane, ocean below, View of other ships from aircraft carrier, Sailors fire anti-aircraft guns, Blair talks to camera from leather chair, walks to screen, where we see film of people, mostly women, competing, fighting for merchandise in crowded store, Blair enters living room, sits on couch, picks up magazine, talks to camera, reads from magazine, CU page ("TOMORROW'S NEW WORLD"), Blair talks to camera from couch (seen again), Photo 1930's car (B/W), Photo of car resembling Bentley (B/W), Photo of car resembling Austin (English, B/W), Photo of apparently another English car (B/W), Various brand new auto engines, College boy, girl exit dorm, enter early 1950's Nash Rambler, Businessman drives up in early 1940's Nash, gets out on passenger side, 1950's teen boy walks up, they talk, CU man, 1950's teen boy talk, Man, 1950's teen boy sit on porch chairs, have serious talk, main point being that big cars are not in our future, Earth moving machines build roads, Orchards, Farm, Housing development in distance, trees in foreground, Suburban street, Advertisement: THE CAR WITH THE POWER PERSONALITY, Advertisement words below car photo ("THE BIG AND THE BEAUTIFUL"), Advertisement: THE TAKE-OFF'S TERRIFIC, Advertisement: THE BIGGEST, LONGEST, ROOMIEST CAR OF ALL, Advertisement: A ----- IS A MOVING IDEA WITH 285 HORSEPOWER TO SECOND THE MOTION, Advertisement: EACH INCH IS LUXURY 222 NEW INCHES OF BEAUTY AND COMFORT BASED ON STRENGTH AND SAFETY AND POWER, Advertisement with photo of four cars ("NEW RAMBLER AMERICAN CHALLENGES "BIG CAR CONCEPT"), Advertisement, photo man holds photo of Nash ("THE CAR I DIDN'T BUY HAS DONE MORE FOR ME THAN ALL THE CARS I'VE OWNED"), Man exits Rambler showroom, puts brochure in suit coat pocket, Man enters car, Rambler wagon drives down street, on road, mountains in background, Shots from moving vehicle of Rambler riding, View from moving vehicle of Rambler riding down road, license plate says 1960 (seen again), Elderly woman in shawl walks across patio, puts dish on table, talks to little boy, Elderly man talks with elderly woman on patio, Young man joins them, Boy in dress clothes surprises couple kissing, Surprised kissing couple talk with boy, Man kisses woman, they trot happily across back yard, joined by boy, elderly couple, Group exits yard, thrilled at what they see, New Rambler at curb (surprise!!), Man exits car, opens passenger door, POV as we glide toward car, View from moving vehicle of five American Motors cars riding in V formation, AM logo ("RAMBLER THE NEW STANDARD OF BASIC EXCELLENCE")
Immigration Hearing 0900-1000
HOUSE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE HEARING Immigration and Agriculture Subcommittee hearing with Arturo Rodriguez, United Farm Workers, Steven Colbert and others 09:38:33 THIS HEARING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION, 09:38:37 CITIZENSHIP, REFUGEES, BORDER SECURITY AND INTERNATIONAL LAW 09:38:40 WILL COME TO ORDER. WE REVISE THERE IS GREAT PLIGHT 09:38:48 OF MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN AMERICA. 09:38:50 WE ASK THE PRESS ACTUALLY PULL BACK FROM THE TABLE SO THAT WE 09:38:56 CAN OBSERVE ALL FOUR OF OUR WITNESSES. 09:39:00 AND IF THE PRESS CANNOT DO SO, THEY'LL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE 09:39:07 ROOM. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR 09:39:10 WITNESSES. MEMBERS OF THE IMMIGRATION 09:39:13 SUBCOMMITTEE AND OTHERS WHO JOINED US TODAY TO THE 09:39:16 SUBCOMMITTEE'S HEARING ON PROTECTING AMERICA'S HARVEST. 09:39:19 THE AMERICAN AGRICULTURAL SECTOR HAS LONG SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF 09:39:24 AVAILABLE U.S. WORKERS TO GROW AND PICK AMERICA'S FRUITS AND 09:39:30 V VEGETABLES. 09:39:31 EVEN IN TODAY'S TOP ECONOMIC CLIMATE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR 09:39:34 NOT, INSUFFICIENT AND CONTINUAL NUMBER OF U.S. WORKERS ARE 09:39:40 WILLING TO FILL MANUAL AGRICULTURE JOBS. 09:39:42 AMERICA'S FARMS ARE DEPENDENT ON A RELIABLE WORKFORCE TO PRODUCE 09:39:45 OUR DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLY AND TODAY'S FARMS ARE STRUGGLING TO 09:39:51 STAY IN BUSINESS AS A RESULT OF CURRENT LABOR CHALLENGES. 09:39:54 TODAY'S HEARING, THE LABOR NEEDS OF OUR AGRICULTURAL SECTOR, 09:40:00 ATTEMPT TO RECRUIT WORKERS FOR AGRICULTURAL LABOR, VISA PROGRAM 09:40:05 FOR AGRICULTURAL WORKERS AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. 09:40:08 ONE EXPLANATION FOR WHY AMERICAN WORKERS MAY BE UNWILLING TO 09:40:13 ENGAGE IN MANUAL FARM WORKER WHEN THEY WERE WILLING TO SO 09:40:17 YEARS AGO MAY LIE IN OUR AGRICULTURAL SYSTEM. 09:40:20 IN THE 1940s AND '50s THE NATIVE-BORN WORKFORCE DIDN'T 09:40:26 HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. LAST YEAR THAT NUMBER WAS 5.7%. 09:40:29 IN ANY EVENT, THE DIFFICULT TO OF RECRUITING NATIVE-BORN 09:40:33 WORKERS TO WORK ON FARMS HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY THE UNITED 09:40:36 FORM WORKERS TAKE OUR JOBS PLEASE CAMPAIGN. 09:40:38 THE CAMPAIGN INVITES UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS TO USE THE UFW'S 09:40:45 ASSISTANCE TO OBTAIN EMPLOYMENT AS FARM WORKERS. 09:40:49 YET, ACCORDING TO UFW, EVEN IN THE PERIOD OF HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT 09:40:52 ACROSS ALL EDUCATIONAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC SECTORS OF OUR 09:40:57 SOCIETY, ONLY SEVEN U.S. WORKERS HAVE AGREED TO ACTUALLY WORK IN 09:41:01 THE FIELDS AS OF TODAY. I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME ADVOCATE 09:41:04 FOR FARM WORKERS AND GROWERS. WHEN I WAS ON THE SANTA CLARA 09:41:09 COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE 1980s I WORKED CLOSELY WITH 09:41:13 THE UNITED FARM WORKERS AND FARM BUREAU. 09:41:16 I SPENT TIME AT MANY FARMS. RECENTLY I SPENT THE DAY PICKING 09:41:22 STRAWBERRIES AT A FARM NEAR MY DISTRICT. 09:41:25 UFW INVITED ME TO SPEND A DAY PICKING VEGETABLES AT A FARM IN 09:41:29 NEW YORK WITH STEPHEN COLBERT. I WANT TO THANK ARTURO RODRIGUEZ 09:41:35 FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I WOULD 09:41:37 LIKE TO ADMONISH THE AUDIENCE BEFORE I CONTINUE MY STATEMENT, 09:41:42 THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN ORDER AND DECORUM THROUGHOUT THESE 09:41:46 PROCEEDINGS AND TO THAT END, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF THE 09:41:49 VISITORS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY 09:41:53 MANIFESTATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THESE PROCEEDINGS 09:41:57 OR ANY OTHER DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS. IF NECESSARY, THE CAPITOL POLICE 09:42:02 ARE HERE TO REMOVE ANYONE WHO DISRUPTS THE HEARING. 09:42:06 WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY. 09:42:08 PART OF WHAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS WITHOUT A 09:42:11 SUFFICIENT U.S. LABOR FORCE U.S. FARMERS HAVE INCREASINGLY RELIED 09:42:15 ON UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS. ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF 09:42:18 LABOR, OVER 50% OF ALL SEASONAL AGRICULTURAL WORKERS ARE 09:42:24 UNDOCUMENTED. EXPERTS BELIEVE DUE TO 09:42:27 UNDERREPORTING THAT NUMBER MAY ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO 75%. 09:42:30 CRITICS ARGUE THAT THE SHORTAGE OF U.S. AGRICULTURAL WORKERS 09:42:33 COULD BE SOLVED BY SIMPLY INCREASING WAGES AND WORKING 09:42:37 CONDITIONS. AS A LONGTIME AND ARDENT 09:42:40 SUPPORTER OF FARM WORKERS I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER. 09:42:43 WE MUST ALSO FACE THE REALITY THE NATION'S GROWERS COMPETE 09:42:46 WITH FARMERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS INCREASINGLY 09:42:49 GLOBALIZED WORLD. INCREASING WAGES AND BENEFITS IN 09:42:53 AN AMOUNT NECESSARY TO ATTRACT BILLIONS OF EDUCATED U.S. 09:42:58 WORKERS TO THE FIELDS WOULD MEAN INCREASED PRODUCTION COST THAT 09:43:02 COULD RENDER U.S. FOOD PRODUCTS UNCOMPETITIVE WITH IMPORTED 09:43:06 PRODUCTS. AMERICAN FARMS WOULD THEN CLOSE 09:43:08 IN TURN RESULTING IN THE MASS OFFSHORING OF TENS OF MILLIONS 09:43:12 OF AGRICULTURE AND RELATED JOBS. INDEED, THIS IS ALREADY 09:43:17 HAPPENING. BETWEEN 2007 AND 2008, 1.56 09:43:22 MILLION ACRES OF U.S. FARMLAND WERE SHUT DOWN. 09:43:27 MANY OF THESE FARMS MOVED TO MEXICO. 09:43:31 WHEN FARMS CLOSE OUR COUNTRY SUFFERS. 09:43:33 NOT ONLY DO WE LOSE THE JOBS FILLED BY THOSE WHO WORK IN THE 09:43:38 FIELDS BUT LOSE THE MILLIONS OF UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM JOBS 09:43:41 CONNECTED TO THOSE JOBS WHETHER IT'S PROCESSING, PACKAGING, 09:43:44 TRANSPORTATION, SEED TRUX, MANUFACTURING, ACCOUNTING, 09:43:47 ADVERTISING. THESE JOBS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY 09:43:49 FILLED BY U.S. WORKERS. YET THESE JOBS DISAPPEAR, TOO, 09:43:53 WHEN FARMS ARE CLOSED. ECONOMISTS BELIEVE THAT FOR 09:43:56 EVERY FARM JOB LOST, THE U.S. LOSES ANOTHER 3.1 COMPLEMENTARY 09:44:05 JOBS. ASIDE FROM THE LOSS OF 09:44:11 MILLIONS -- THE TRUTH IS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY DEPENDS ON OUR 09:44:12 ABILITY TO PRODUCE A STABLE DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLY. 09:44:15 LIKE OIL, THE MORE WE RELY ON OTHER COUNTRIES FOR OUR FOOD 09:44:21 SUPPLY, THE MORE WE FALL VICTIM TO AN INCREASED TRADE DEBT, 09:44:25 SCARCITY IN TIMES OF DROUGHT, FLUCTUATING EXTERNAL MARKET 09:44:29 PRICES AND POLITICAL PRESSURE. WE WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE 09:44:32 POSSIBILITY OF FOOD-BORN ILLNESSES AND TERRORIST ATTACKS 09:44:34 THROUGH OUR NATION'S FOOD SUPPLY. 09:44:35 THE PLAIN TRUTH IS FOOD SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY. 09:44:39 AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD TO STOP PRODUCING ITS OWN FOOD SUPPLY 09:44:42 ANDBY NEED THE LABOR FORCE TO DO SO. 09:44:45 TODAY WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR PANEL OF WITNESSES TO BETTER 09:44:49 UNDERSTAND THIS COMPLEX AND VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR AMERICANS. 09:44:52 AMERICAN JOBS, OUR ECONOMY, AND OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. 09:44:56 PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA SPOTLIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL ABILITY TO FOCUS 09:45:00 PUBLIC OPINION ON AN ISSUE. WHETHER IT'S BONO TALKING ABOUT 09:45:05 THIRD WORLD POVERTY OR ANGELINA JOLIE ADVOCATING FOR PROTECTING 09:45:09 CHILDREN AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING, THE POWER OF MEDIA 09:45:13 FIGURES TO USE THEIR CELEBRITY TO FOCUS ATTENTION ON A CENTRAL 09:45:17 PUBLIC ISSUES IS WELL KNOWN AND WELL REGARDED. 09:45:20 I'M HAPPY THAT STEPHEN COLBERT OF THE "COLBERT REPORT" HAS 09:45:25 JOINED THAT GROUP OF CELEBRITIES WHO WILL USE THEIR MEDIA 09:45:28 POSITION TO BENEFIT OTHERS. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MR. 09:45:32 COLBERT'S WRITTEN TESTIMONY, HE'S TAKEN THE TIME TO WALK IN 09:45:35 THE SHOES OF MIGRANT FARM WORKERS AND URGES REFORM OF OUR 09:45:40 IMMIGRATION LAWS. HAPPY THE UNITED FARM WORKERS 09:45:44 HELPED INTRODUCE ME TO MR. COLBERT WHO I HAD NOT MET BEFORE 09:45:48 SO WE COULD SPEND A DAY ON THE FARM TOGETHER. 09:45:50 HIS ACTIONS ARE GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW USING LEVITY AND FAME HE CAN 09:45:57 BRING ATTENTION TO THE GOOD OF THE NATION. 09:46:00 I APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR WITNESS'ESTS TO BE WITH US TODAY 09:46:05 AND THEIR LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA. 09:46:06 I HOPE TOGETHER WE CAN FIND SOLUTIONS TO THESE PRESSING 09:46:09 PROBLEMS. I WOULD RECOGNIZE OUR 09:46:11 DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER STEVE KING FOR HIS OPENING 09:46:15 STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. 09:46:17 I APPRECIATE BEING RECOGNIZED. A THOUGHT THAT COMES TO MIND, 09:46:21 I'M WONDERING HOW THE ESKIMOS GOT ALONG WITHOUT FRESH FRUITS 09:46:27 AND VEGETABLES IF IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. 09:46:29 BEFORE WE START THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PANEL, I'D LIKE TO 09:46:32 FOCUS MY REMARKS ON PROTECTING AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:46:35 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF OUR IMMIGRATION 09:46:39 LAWS IN TODAY'S JOBS, DEPRESSION, HAVE FORMED A 09:46:42 PERFECT STORM FOR HURTING AMERICANS. 09:46:44 THE MOST IMPORTANT DUTY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS WE ENSURE OUR 09:46:46 NATION'S IMMIGRATION POLICY LIFTS UP AMERICANS AND NOT HOLDS 09:46:50 THEM DOWN. I FIND IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY 09:46:52 SOME PEOPLE CARELESSLY CLAIM THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO HARD 09:46:56 WORK. I FIND THIS CLAIM INSULTING AS I 09:46:58 AM SURE MOST HARDWORKING AMERICANS DO. 09:47:01 IT'S MOST INSULTING TO THOSE BRAVE AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO 09:47:04 VOLUNTARILY RISK THEIR LIVES TO DEFEND OUR FREEDOM AND WAY OF 09:47:07 LIFE EVERY DAY. THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT TAKE ON 09:47:10 TERRORISTS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. 09:47:11 TREK FOR MILES ACROSS THE DESERT WITH 70 OR MORE POUNDS OF GEAR 09:47:15 IN 100-PLUS DEGREE TEMPERATURES FOR ABOUT $8.09 AN HOUR. 09:47:20 THAT INCLUDES THE MARINES. MAYBE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING LESS 09:47:25 TIME WATCHING "COMEDY CENTRAL" AND MORE TIME CONSIDERING THE 09:47:27 REAL JOBS OUT THERE, ONES THAT REQUIRE REAL HARD LABOR AND 09:47:32 DON'T INVOLVE SITTING BEHIND A DESK. 09:47:33 WE WOULD REALIZE EVERY DAY AMERICAN WORKERS PERFORM THE 09:47:36 DIRTIEST, MOST DIFFICULT, MOST DANGEROUS JOBS THAT CAN BE 09:47:39 THROWN AT THEM. FROM CRAB FISHERMEN TO VENTURE 09:47:41 INTO THE ROUGHEST AND MOST DANGEROUS WATERS IN THE WORLD TO 09:47:44 THE JOE THE PLUMBERS OF THE WORLD WHO MANY DAYS WOULD PREFER 09:47:49 THE AROMA OF FRESH DIRT TO THAT OF THE SEWAGE FROM AMERICAN 09:47:54 ELITISTS WHO DISPARAGE THEM EVEN AS THEY FLUSH. 09:47:57 THESE ARE REAL AMERICANS DOING REAL JOBS, TASKS THAT SIMPLY 09:48:02 MUST GET DONE. WHEN AMERICAN WORKERS ARE 09:48:05 TREATED WITH RESPECT AND PAID FOR THE LABOR THEY'LL DO ANY JOB 09:48:08 AND OUTWORK ANYONE ON EARTH. AMERICA'S SPIRIT IS HARD WORKING 09:48:13 AND SO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO COMPRISE THIS NATION. 09:48:16 I REPRESENT A RURAL DISTRICT MADE UP OF FARMERS IN FARM 09:48:19 COMMUNITIES AND THE PEOPLE OF IOWA KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO 09:48:22 MANAGE AND EFFECTIVELY ONE A FARM. 09:48:24 ONE ISSUE WITH ATTRACTING MORE AMERICAN WORKERS TO SEASONAL 09:48:28 AGRICULTURAL LABOR IS MOST MIGRANT FARMERS -- THE 09:48:38 DEVASTATING IMPACT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION HAS ON AMERICAN FARM 09:48:41 WORKERS. OF COURSE IT IS ARGUED BY TOM 09:48:44 VILSACK, PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, THAT 09:48:46 FOOD PRICES WOULD BE THREE, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES MORE IF IT WERE 09:48:50 NOT FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS. 09:48:53 THIS IS BLATANTLY FALSE AND CAN'T BE SUPPORTED BY ANY DATA. 09:48:58 DOESN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DEFEND HIMSELF. 09:48:59 DATE TO FROM THE SECRETARY'S OWN DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SHOWS 09:49:03 LABOR COSTS ONLY REPRESENT 6% OF THE PRICE CONSUMERS PAY FOR 09:49:07 FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. DOUBLE THE PAY OF WORKERS AND 09:49:10 SEE ONLY A 6% INCREASE IN CONSUMER PRICES. 09:49:14 HIGHLY RESPECTED AGRICULTURAL ECONOMIST PHILLIP MARTIN OF THE 09:49:17 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA NOTES IF THERE WAS A 40% INCREASE IN 09:49:20 FARM WAGES THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WOULD ONLY SPEND $8 MORE A YEAR 09:49:25 ON FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, LESS THAN THE PRICE OF A MOVIE 09:49:30 TICKET. MOST AMERICANS WOULD PAY $8 MORE 09:49:32 A YEAR IN ORDER TO ENSURE A LEGAL WORKFORCE. 09:49:34 CHEAP LABOR IS NOT WORTH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'S COST TO AMERICANS 09:49:37 AS WORKERS OR TAXPAYERS. THE REALITY IS, EMPLOYERS HIRE 09:49:42 DESPERATE ALIENS WHO WILL WORK FOR MUCH LESS THAN AMERICANS, 09:49:45 DRIVING WAGES DOWN AND MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR AMERICAN WORKERS 09:49:49 TO COMPETE. AS RANKING MEMBER SMITH HAS 09:49:51 POINTED OUT, MANY TIMES IN THE PAST THERE ARE 8 MILLION ILLEGAL 09:49:55 IMMIGRANTS IN THE WORKFORCE COMPETING AGAINST THE 15.4 09:50:00 MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE OFFICIALLY COUNTED AS 09:50:04 UNEMPLOYED, WHICH INCLUDES THE 80 MILLION WHO ARE SIMPLY NOT IN 09:50:09 THE WORKFORCE BECAUSE THEY'VE DROPPED OUT AND ARE NO 09:50:11 LOOKING FOR JOBS AND THEY ARE OF WORKING AGE. 09:50:13 AMERICANS HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR THOSE JOBS BECAUSE WAGES 09:50:17 HAVE BEEN DEPRESSED AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES ELIMINATED BY LOW 09:50:20 SKILLED AND VERY MOBILE IMMIGRATION. 09:50:22 THE PERCENT OF TEENAGERS WHO WORK HAS NEVER BEEN LOWER. 09:50:26 PROFESSOR CAROL SWAIN WILL TESTIFY TODAY ABOUT THE TOLL 09:50:29 MASS IMMIGRATION HAS TAKEN ON MINORITY COMMUNITIES. 09:50:32 WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT ALL OF THIS STARTED LAPPING 09:50:35 WELL BEFORE THE RECESSION. PROFESSOR GEORGE BORHAUS DID 09:50:41 GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH ON THE IMPACT OF IMMIGRATION IN THE 09:50:44 1980s AND '90s ON LOW SKILLED AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:50:48 PROFESSORS ANDREW SUM AND PAUL HARRINGTON AND OTHER RESEARCHERS 09:50:51 AT THE LABOR MARKET STUDIES AT NORTHEASTERN FOUND IN 2005 THAT 09:50:55 GIVEN AND I QUOTE GIVEN LARGE JOB LOSSES AMONG THE NATION'S 09:51:00 TEENS, 20 TO 24-YEAR-OLDS WITH NO FOUR-YEAR DEGREES AND NATIVE 09:51:05 BORN MEN IT IS CLEAR THAT NATIVE BORN WORKERS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED 09:51:09 IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION." 09:51:12 IT'S AMAZING TO ME THAT AMNESTY ADVOCATES SIMPLY IGNORE THE 80 09:51:17 MILLION LABOR POOL. WE CAN EITHER FEED, CHOET AND 09:51:20 HOUSE THEM OR PUT THEM TO WORK TO FEED AND CLOTHE THE WORLD. 09:51:24 THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS ONLY MAGNIFIES THE IMPACT ON AMERICAN 09:51:28 FAMILIES BUT UNLESS OUR POLICIES ARE CHANGED AMERICAN WORKERS AND 09:51:31 FAMILIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNDERMINED EVEN AFTER THE 09:51:34 ECONOMY TURNS THE CORNER. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION FOUND 09:51:38 THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD HEADED BY AN IMMIGRANT HOUSEHOLD 09:51:42 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE RECEIVES OVER $19,000 IN TOTAL 09:51:46 GOVERNMENT BENEFITS MORE THAN THEY PAY IN TAXES FROM FEDERAL, 09:51:49 STATE AND LOCAL. CHEAP LABOR? 09:51:52 AND I THINK ABOUT THE DAY THAT I HAD TO SWIM OUT INTO A SEWER 09:51:57 LAGOON AND DIVE INTO NINE FEET OF FLUID TO RETRIEVE A PUMP AND 09:52:01 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE DAY THAT IT WAS 20 BELOW AND I'M IN THE 09:52:04 WATER FIXING A WATER LINE IN THE WARMEST PLACE THERE WAS IN THE 09:52:09 WATER, THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE IN MY LIFE IN THE CONSTRUCTION 09:52:12 BUSINESS AND WORK WE'VE PUT OUR WORKERS THROUGH IN THE PRIDE 09:52:15 WITH WHICH THEY TAKE, IT MEANS THAT IT'S AN INSULT TO ME TO 09:52:18 HEAR THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO THIS WORK. 09:52:19 I CAN'T THINK OF A JOB THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO DO AND 09:52:22 I CAN'T THINK OF AN EMPLOYEE THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE 28 YEARS 09:52:25 IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS THAT REFUSED TO DO THE WORK THAT 09:52:28 WAS NECESSARY. AMERICANS WILL DO THAT WORK BUT 09:52:30 THEY WANT TO BE PAID A RESPECTABLE WAGE FOR IT. 09:52:32 I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TESTIMONY, MADAM CHAIR AND YIELD BACK THE 09:52:36 BALANCE OF MY TIME. WITH THE AGREEMENT OF THE 09:52:43 MINORITY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE AUTHOR OF THE AG JOBS BILL, 09:52:47 MR. BERMAN FOR HIS STATEMENT AND THEN MR. SMITH AND MR. CONNERS 09:52:52 WILL GIVE THEIR OPENING STATEMENTS. 09:52:54 MR. BERMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 09:52:57 CHAIR AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING A HEARING WHICH 09:53:01 PERHAPS LIKE FEW OTHERS WILL HIGHLIGHT THE CONDITIONS OF 09:53:07 MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY AND TURN ATTENTION TO 09:53:12 THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. I THANK BOTH THE CHAIR AND 09:53:16 RANKING MEMBER AND FULL COMMITTEE FOR ALLOWING TO GO. 09:53:19 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR 40 YEARS AND 09:53:27 IN THE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE EACH SESSION INTRODUCED BIPARTISAN 09:53:32 LEGISLATION TO TRY AND DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. 09:53:38 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I CHAIR ANOTHER COMMITTEE, I HAVE A 09:53:41 HEARING AT 10:00 AND SO I APPRECIATE THE COURTESIES 09:53:46 EXTENDED TO LET ME JUMP IN LINE HERE. 09:53:49 I'M GOING TO FORGO MY PREPARED OPENING STATEMENT BUT I SIMPLY 09:53:55 MUST RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS OF THE RANKING MEMBER, MY FRIEND 09:53:59 THE RANKING MEMBER ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. 09:54:04 THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE CHAIR SAID -- THERE IS NOTHING 09:54:08 IMPLICIT IN THE TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN EXPLICIT OR IMPLICIT 09:54:14 THAT SAID AMERICANS AREN'T DOING HARD WORK AND IF THE GENTLEMAN 09:54:20 FROM IOWA WERE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONDITIONS ON THE 09:54:28 FARMS AND THE WAGES, I WOULD HAVE NOTICED MORE ACTIVITY TO 09:54:33 ENSURE THAT A NUMBER OF THE LAWS THAT APPLY TO ALL OTHER WORKERS 09:54:36 IN AMERICA APPLY WITH EQUAL FORCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO PICK OUR 09:54:42 FRUITS AND VEGETABLES IN THIS COUNTRY. 09:54:44 I WOULD SEE AN EFFORT TO PUSH GREATER APPROPRIATIONS AND 09:54:48 GREATER FUNDING FOR PEOPLE TO MONITOR THE WORKING CONDITIONS 09:54:51 ON OUR FARMS. I'D SEE AN EFFORT TO TRY AND GET 09:54:54 THE RIGHTS THAT ALL OTHER WORKERS HAVE TO COLLECTIVE 09:54:58 BARGAINING EXTENDED TO FARM WORKERS WHO ARE EXCLUDED FROM 09:55:01 OUR NATIONAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LEGISLATION. 09:55:04 THE FACT IS THAT WHILE AMERICANS OVER AND OVER AGAIN HAVE 09:55:10 PRODUCED BOTH THEIR -- HAVE SHOWN BOTH THEIR COURAGE AND 09:55:13 THEIR WILLINGNESS TO UNDERTAKE TERRIBLY DIFFICULT JOBS, JOBS 09:55:17 THAT I WOULD DARE TO SAY THE PEOPLE ON THIS PODIUM INCLUDING 09:55:22 MYSELF WOULD BE VERY RELUCTANT TO TAKE STUDY AFTER STUDY 09:55:28 INCLUDING STUDIES AT THE TIME OF WELFARE REFORM WHERE HUGE 09:55:32 NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE FORCED OFF OF THE WELFARE 09:55:37 R ROLLS AND COUNTIES WHERE 09:55:39 UNEMPLOYMENT WAS TWO OR THREE TIMES THE AVERAGE OF THE COUNTRY 09:55:46 GENERALLY, PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE NO INCOME AND NO WELFARE 09:55:51 THAN TAKE THE BACK-BREAKING JOBS THAT THE MIGRANT FARM WORKER HAS 09:55:58 TO DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. 09:56:02 YOU CAN TRY AND CHEAP SEAT IT ALL YOU WANT, BUT WE KNOW THAT 09:56:08 WERE IT NOT FOR IMMIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY THERE 09:56:14 WOULD BE NO SEASONAL FRESH FRUIT AND VEGETABLE INDUSTRY AND I 09:56:19 JOIN THE GENTLEMAN WANTING BETTER WAGES AND BETTER WORKING 09:56:23 CONDITIONS AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY AND 09:56:26 IMPROVE THOSE CONDITIONS, BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, STUDY 09:56:29 AFTER STUDY HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THESE JOBS ARE NOT TAKEN BY 09:56:35 U.S. WORKERS EVEN WHEN UNEMPLOYED, EVEN WHEN HAVING NO 09:56:39 OTHER SIGNIFICANT MEANS OF SUPPORT. 09:56:41 AND NOTHING THAT -- NO RHETORICAL FLOURISHES CAN HIDE 09:56:46 THAT FACT. I COMMEND THE GENTLE LADY FOR 09:56:50 HOLDING THIS HEARING. I WANT TO PAY A SPECIAL 09:56:52 RECOGNITION FOR MY DEAR FRIEND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM 09:56:56 WORKERS UNION, ARTURO RODRIGUEZ AND THE OTHER WITNESSES, AS WELL 09:57:00 AND APOLOGIZE FOR -- I HOPE TO COME BACK WHEN MY HEARING IS 09:57:04 OVER BUT NOT TO BE HERE FOR THE ENTIRE HEARING. 09:57:07 I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. BERMAN. 09:57:09 WE WOULD NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL 09:57:11 COMMITTEE MR. SMITH FOR HIS OPENING STATEMENT AND HE WILL BE 09:57:16 FOLLOWED BY MR. CONYERS AND THEN JUST TO KEEP IT EVEN WE'LL 09:57:21 INVITE MR. LUNDGREN TO HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND OTHERS 09:57:25 WILL BE INVITED TO SUBMIT OPENING STATEMENTS. 09:57:28 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AMERICAN WORKERS FACE TOUGH 09:57:32 ECONOMIC TIMES. WITH UNEMPLOYMENT ALMOST 10% FOR 09:57:35 THE FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION, JOBS HAVE BECOME SCARCE AND 09:57:39 MILLIONS OF FAMILIES ARE HURTING. 09:57:42 THE PEW HISPANIC CENTER ESTIMATES THERE ARE MORE THAN 7 09:57:46 MILLION ILLEGAL WORKERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 09:57:50 ALEXANDER ALANAKOFF, I.N.S. OFFICIAL AND HIGH COMMISSIONER 09:57:55 FOR REFUGEES CALLS IT A MYTH THAT THERE ARE LITTLE OR NO 09:58:00 COMPETITION BETWEEN UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS AND AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:58:04 THIS COMPETITION HAS HAD DEVASTATING EFFECTS ON THE MOST 09:58:07 VULNERABLE OF AMERICANS. OVER 32% OF NATIVE-BORN WORKERS 09:58:12 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE ARE EITHER UNEMPLOYED, FORCED TO 09:58:15 WORK PART TIME OR TOO DISCOURAGED TO EVEN LOOK FOR 09:58:19 WORK. FOR NATIVE BORN HISPANICS 09:58:21 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE, THE RATE IS 35%. 09:58:25 FOR NATIVE BORN AFRICAN-AMERICANS WITHOUT A HIGH 09:58:27 SCHOOL DEGREE, THE RATE IS 43%. WE COULD MAKE MILLIONS OF JOBS 09:58:34 AVAILABLE TO AMERICAN CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS IF THE 09:58:37 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SIMPLY ENFORCED OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. 09:58:41 ABOUT HALF OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. 09:58:46 SO THAT MEANS THAT A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF LEGAL WORKERS, LABOR 09:58:51 IN THE FIELDS, PERHAPS AS MANY AS HALF. 09:58:54 CERTAINLY EVEN MORE WOULD TAKE THESE JOBS IF THE WAGES AND 09:58:57 WORKING CONDITIONS WERE BETTER. THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS WE HAVE 09:59:01 TO SAVE JOBS FOR AMERICANS ARE
American pioneers conquer the west in the 1800s, compared to 1940s workers
The U.S. Capitol dome at night. Montage of U.S. Declaration of Independence with view of U.S. founding fathers at time of American Revolution. Reenacted depiction: 17th century immigrants or pilgrims arriving in the U.S. on large sailing ships. Group of men marching while carrying a "Don't Tread on Me" Gadsden flag. Depiction of Betsy Ross with U.S.A. flag. A covered wagon at sunset. 18th century men cutting down trees. 18th century men building a log cabin. Settlers arrive to the remains of their burned out cabin. A stage coach on the U.S. prairie. A covered wagon in the midwest. A stage coach traveling through grass lands. 18th century depiction of a western town in the United States. A white man and a Native American Indian man driving the last spike to complete a railroad as the steam locomotive starts. An 18th century steam locomotive passes by. Actual footage of external view of 1940s factory or production plant. Inside 1940s factory men are building engines. Wide shot of workers entering factory. New York City street scene. Los Angeles street scene. A rancher mends a barbed wire fence. Cowboys-ranchers on their horses. Fisherman pulling in nets on shore. Tobacco farming. Leather worker. Shirtless worker wielding a pick axe. Plant worker turning a large valve. A woman painter with a maritime village scene...perhaps Provincetown. A woman scientist in a laboratory. A 1940s family at the dinner table. Farm laborers harvesting melons. Man drives a tractor with woman riding behind him. Location: United States USA. Date: 1947.
The dairy sector is diversifying
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Dust storms in the 1930s destroy crops, kill farm animals, displace families in the US
Crossroads For America 54, 1940s
1940s: Men working farming and factory equipment. Laboratory equipment. Making wheels. Wheel moving on car. Man driving far.
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ITALIAN FARMERS DRIVE LIVESTOCK.- 1940s
In Italy, farmers drive livestock against a pictureque view of a village circa 1940s.
ILLINOIS HISTORICAL FILM (1947)
COLOR FILM. AUDIO FROM FOOTAGE IS NOT LICENSABLE. THIS IS HISTORICAL TRAVEL LOG FILM TAKEN IN AND AROUND THE STATE OF ILLINOIS IN THE LATE 1940’S OR EARLY 1950’S. EXACT DATE IS UNKNOWN.
Brazilian Coffee Plantation
A car drives onto the grounds of a Brazilian coffee plantation on a sunny afternoon. Coffee tree crops densely pack the plantation, also lined with small housing units.
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HOME MOVIES
Sudan Aid Drop - World Food Programme aid air dropped at camp
NAME: SUD AID DROP 020804Nx TAPE: EF04/0777 IN_TIME: 10:02:33:22 DURATION: 00:01:38:24 SOURCES: APTN DATELINE: Darfur - 2 Aug 2004 RESTRICTIONS: SHOTLIST: 1. Wide shot of plane flying 2. Plane flies overhead, World Food Programme sacks drop out of plane 3. Wide shot of food sacks dropping onto ground 4. Plane flying away 5. Wide shot of Sudanese army soldiers looking in direction of plane 6. Townspeople watching 7. Wide shot of donkey carts moving to drop site 8. Sacks on ground, people approaching to pick them up 9. People picking up sacks and putting them into piles 10. Donkey cart with load of WFP sacks, pull out to wide shot of people stacking up food sacks 11. Various of sacks with WFP logo on them 12. People stacking sacks 13. SOUNDBITE: (English) Peter Smerdon, Spokesman, World Food Programme: "Here in western Darfur it's the only thing that the World Food Program can do to get food to as many a people as possible. This place of Fur Buranga has been cut off since last month and there are 26,000 people here who are receiving food this week." 14. Women next to food sacks 15. Man and woman carrying sacks through gate STORYLINE: The United Nations World Food Programme air-dropped 84 tons (tonnes) of supplies into Sudan's conflict-ridden Darfur region on Monday. The aid was dropped near Fur Buranga, a farming town in western Darfur located about 10 kilometres (six miles) from the Chad border. The Rome-based UN agency said that it had airdropped 22 tons (tonnes) of food supplies to Fur Buranga on Sunday using an Antonov-12 plane. The agency plans to deliver a total of some 1,400 tons (tonnes) of food including cereals, pulses, corn-soya blend and salt in a first round of airdrops to help more than 70,000 people displaced by the 17-month conflict. The agency has said it anticipates that the air-supply effort in Darfur will exceed the Berlin airlift of the late 1940s. The World Food Programme said it intends to continue airdrops throughout the rainy season, which lasts into September. During that period, trucks carrying food get bogged down in mud. They are also at risk from bandits, the agency said. The agency appealed for funds, saying it had so far received only 78.5 million US dollars of the 195 million US dollars it needs to cover its emergency work in Darfur this year. An estimated 30,000 people have been killed in the conflict in Darfur. One million people have been forced to flee their homes, and an estimated 2.2 million people are in urgent need of food, medicine and other basics. International aid organisations have accused the Sudanese government of supporting the Arab militias, known as Janjaweed, in a brutal campaign to drive Sudanese citizens of African origin out of Darfur.
INDUSTRIAL; 1940s
01:00:00:00Milkman delivers milk, chats with housewife (lame dialogue, real campy), Milk truck pulls up, Milkman delivers milk to house (rides up in cool little truck), Woman in kitchen disappears, Woman looks at dairy farm, Barn, Cows in field, Cow grazing, Various cows grassing (Guernseys, Jerseys, Holstein. No Angus), Cows enters barn for milking, Man uses machine to milk cow, Machine milks cow, Woman pets cows in barn, Farmer pours milk into container, Woman watches man load milk into ice container, Man pushes milk to barn, Dairy truck speeds on road, Milkman picks up cans of milk by roadside, Men unload milk cans at dairy, Men at dairy weigh milk, Man in lab tests samples, System of steel tubes, Containers washed on conveyor, Man explains heater to housewife in milk plant, Scientist greets woman in lab, explains homogenization process, Man demonstrates homogenization by hand. Lame dialogue, Woman tries to homogenize milk by hand. It's tough, Woman uses pump to squeeze milk into glass, Scientist shows woman diagram, Animated diagram shows homogenization process, Man shows homogenization machine to woman, Hand follows pipes in dairy plant, Milk pasteurized in vat. Agitators mix heated milk, Pasteurizing apparatus, Man shows coils in pasteurizer, Various gauges and controls in dairy, Man points to pipes in cooling container, Milk cascading in cooler in dairy, Men load bottles into conveyor, Bottles move on conveyor and washer, Man moves bottles on conveyor, Packing cases being washed on conveyor, Machine fills bottle with milk, Milk bottles move on conveyor, Machine caps bottles in plant, Hands load milk bottles into cases, Cases come out of plant on conveyor, Man stacks crates at milk plant, Scientist tests milk in lab, Scientist talks with woman in lab. Lame campy dialogue, Scientist shows milk test to woman, Man in lab measures curd of milk on scale, Scientist shows woman milk through microscope, Microscopic views of milk molecules. Homogenized and not, Men clean milk plant after run, Milkman loads milk into truck in dark, Milk truck drives up, milkman gets out, Milk truck drives in snow. Milkman gets out in snow, Milk bottles sit on front stoop, Hand mails package at home mailbox, Train passes, Hand places milk bottle on doorstep, Milk bottle on scale, Milk truck passes on road, Milk truck drives up to house. Milkman delivers to house, Crowds on city street. From above, Family eats at dinner table, Boy plays baseball with father in park, Shot of milk bottle, Milk bottle shown with various other foods, Mother holds baby, gives bottle to baby, Baby in crib drinks from bottle, Kids on swings, see saw, Girl plays tennis ("it's a beauty aid, too"), Woman gets out of shower, gets on scale ("milk is not fattening"), Woman drinks glass of milk, smiles, Men at picnic drink milk ("increases earning power"), Woman at home does bills at kitchen table, Display compares price of milk with pop, Milk truck passes, Milk man walks up to camera, smiles, Man snaps his finger and woman disappears, Woman appears in kitchen, Shot of postman's creed ("neither rain nor snow..." and so on), Folded card says "THE END."
Farm Offensive - Producing Food For The War Effort
00:00:51:00 Scenes of the American farmer plowing, planting and growing food during WWII. Scenes of vintage farm equipment. CU scenes of a tractor-pulled plow turning over rich soil in preparation for planting. Farmer on a tractor discing a field. Scenes of a tractor pulling a 4-row planter box, Cut to a 2-horse team pulling a 2-row planter box on a farm, WW2 era. 00:02:27:00 Various scenes of men and women planting Victory Gardens also called War Gardens in Brooklyn, New York in the early 1940s. Scenes of teenagers from a big city listening to appeal to work on a farm during their vacation and gathered around a tractor as a farmer gives instructions. Scenes of a college girl driving a corn picker on an American farm. Various scenes of women aiding the war effort by working on farms, teenagers picking fruit in a California orchard. 00:05:28:00 Immigrant labor in the 1940s. Scenes depicting the United States and Mexico Bracero Program Mexican Farm Labor Program initiated on August 4, 1942 when the United States signed the Mexican Farm Labor Agreement with Mexico. Various scenes of Mexican men and women aiding the United States war effort by working on farms and in food plants. 00:06:13:00 Scenes of farmers picking corn by hand, feeding chickens and gathering the eggs. Scenes of farm workers picking and boxing fruit in an orchard. 00:07:07:00 CU, black woman picking cotton in cotton field, woman drag sack of picked cotton to scales. Rows of cotton bales ready for shipment. Scenes of sheep, dairy cows, and herd of beef cattle. Scenes of food processing and packaging. CU image of a farmer, the GI Joe on the farm front.
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Docu No. 146 - The origins of the apple - the Garden of Eden found
Colonel Georges Guingouin
HISTORICAL FILM: TRUCKS AND TRUCKING PT. 3 (1941)
A look at the importance of the trucking industry in America in the early 1940s. Exact dates of filming unknown.”THE SINGING WHEELS.” (SEE ALSO CLIP ID #320093, #320099, #320112)
South Africa Entrepreneur - Soweto millionaire a role model for black business people
NAME: SAF ENTREPREN 20081003Iflat TAPE: EF08/1009 IN_TIME: 11:08:52:22 DURATION: 00:02:58:02 SOURCES: AP TELEVISION DATELINE: Jo'burg/Soweto - 18/23 Sep 2008 RESTRICTIONS: SHOTLIST: AP Television Johannesburg, South Africa, 23 September 2008 1. Wide set up Richard Maponya, South African businessman, standing in garden with his family 2. Various of Maponya talking to his daughter 3. SOUNDBITE (English) Richard Maponya, South African businessman: "I got an offer from an industrialist who wanted an educated black man to look after a departmental store, the stocks of a departmental store, and I went for an interview and I found that they are actually paying me four times if not more, more than what teaching was paying me." 4. Various of Maponya looking at a painting 5. SOUNDBITE (English) Richard Maponya, South African businessman: "I thought a was I going to start the first retail clothing store in Soweto, but when I made an application the powers that be, they said to me 'you are dreaming, there is no black man who is supposed to be in business here, you are all here to serve industry.' And I then went to (Nelson) Mandela (Oliver) Tambo attorneys and asked them to assist me getting a license." AP Television FILE: Soweto, South Africa, 18 September 2007 6. Wide of Nelson Mandela, former President South Africa, and Maponya cutting a ribbon at the official opening of the Maponya Mall, the largest mall in Soweto 7. Cutaway media 8. UPSOUND: (English) Nelson Mandela, former President of South Africa: "With this action we declare this Mall open." 9. Wide Mandela and Maponya shaking hands AP Television Johannesburg, South Africa, 23 September 2008 10. SOUNDBITE (English) Richard Maponya, South African businessman: "We need more business people to create more job opportunities. There is lot of poverty in our country and the only way we could address this poverty is by us creating a middle class. And as this middle class grows, it pulls other people who are down the ground to the level where they could have a subsistence type of a living." AP Television FILE: Soweto, South Africa, 18 September 2007 11. Wide exterior Maponya Mall, bulldozer driving past 12. Close up wall sign reading "Maponya Mall" 13. Exterior of Maponya Mall 14. Wide of Soweto township, with cooling tower 15. Wide of Soweto township STORYLINE: When Richard Maponya did well as a clothes salesman, his white boss could not promote him under the rules of apartheid. So the boss offered instead to sell Maponya damaged clothes for cheap. Maponya resold the clothes after work and on weekends, and earned enough to go into business himself. Today, the 81-year-old owns supermarkets and car dealerships, as well as the biggest mall in Soweto. Maponya is the most prominent in a small club of early black business people who have proved what an important role black entrepreneurship can play in building post-Apartheid South Africa. Yet his success also stands out for how rare it is in a country where a quarter of the workforce, most of it black, is unemployed, and most blacks still struggle in poverty 14 years after white rule ended. Maponya showed early signs of entrepreneurial instincts. As a boy, he dammed a stream in the northern South African hills where his family raised dairy cattle, drew water from his pool for a vegetable plot, then sold the cabbages and tomatoes to earn extra money. Yet he did not at first consider a career in business. He studied to be a teacher, about as high an aspiration as a black South African could have had in the 1940s. He arrived in Johannesburg a 24-year-old graduate of a teaching college in 1950, a year after the white government adopted a series of laws to keep the races apart and blacks in servitude. Maponya had a contract to teach in Alexandra, a neighbourhood of middle-class black homeowners, until the government began stripping them of their property rights in the 1960s. Maponya never made it to the school. Soon after reaching Johannesburg, he heard by chance of a white business looking for a sales assistant and offering four times a teacher's pay. He went for an interview and got the job, helping choose stock for a line of clothing sold to poor blacks at stores in rural areas and near mines. With Maponya advising on what customers wanted, sales rose so quickly his white boss was given a promotion. That's when his boss took him aside to apologise that he could not be promoted as well, because that would mean putting a black man in charge of white workers. The boss offered Maponya damaged clothes to sell to customers on a "pay as you buy" basis - the term he coined for what's known today as layaway. The practice helped his business spread by word of mouth. By the time jealous colleagues cut off his supply of factory seconds two years later, he had saved 50,000 South African pounds, the currency in use at the time. "I thought I was going to start the first retail clothing store in Soweto," Maponya said in an interview near the pool in the garden of his grand home. White bureaucrats thought differently. He was told blacks should only think of themselves as "temporary sojourners" in the 87 percent of the country reserved for whites. Maponya went to a young Soweto lawyer named Nelson Mandela for help. Mandela was not able to get Maponya a business license, but was able to get him a small-scale trader's permit. Mandela went on to become South Africa's first democratically elected, black president. Maponya's sure touch for suits suddenly didn't mean much. He drew on his days on his family's dairy farm. Within six months, his business had grown from 10 employees to 50. Maponya invested his milk profits in land and other businesses, and now is the patriarch of a family enterprise with wide interests. His Maponya Mall is a case in point. He bought land with plans to build a mall, but it took 28 years before he could find banks and partners willing to take what they saw as the risk of building in Soweto, even though Maponya knew many of its 1.5 million people - a third of Johannesburg's population - regularly trekked to white neighbourhoods for upscale shopping. The deal finally closed in 2001-02. Maponya Mall was inaugurated in 2007 by the very lawyer who helped Maponya get his trader's permit - Nelson Mandela who in 1994 became South Africa's first democratically elected state president.
Sacks of Coffee Being Loaded
Workers drive a truck packed with coffee bean sacks up to a locomotive storage cart and unload. After unloading the coffee, the train rides off down the tracks.
USA Hometown 1940s Life COLOR
Two young girls play outside house. Family on porch, guests arrive bearing presents. Inside, the children smile at camera. Outside, the kids play on bikes. A children's birthday party outside in garden. Children play with toys and join in games. Children dressed in winter clothes. 00:08:59:00 - The family build a snowman. Old car pulls up. Playing on sleigh. Children play on frozen lake and in snow. A boy helps an adult bring in the hay on a farm. cattle pull a large hay wagon. Young children play outside a house. At a children's party outside. Chat by nice old car. 00:02:35:00 - By a small lake. Boats moored up. Children play outside. They drive an old car chassis. Family posing for camera outside. A young sailor with his family, other sailors in rowing boats. Men hold up tennis rackets and play table tennis. 00:23:33:00 - A log cabin, two women sit with feet in lake whilst man in lake. On golf course.
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THE TOWN
IMMIIGRATION HEARING W/ STEPHEN COLBERT P1
HOUSE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE HEARING Immigration and Agriculture Subcommittee hearing with Arturo Rodriguez, United Farm Workers, Stephen Colbert and others 09:38:33 THIS HEARING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION, 09:38:37 CITIZENSHIP, REFUGEES, BORDER SECURITY AND INTERNATIONAL LAW 09:38:40 WILL COME TO ORDER. WE REVISE THERE IS GREAT PLIGHT 09:38:48 OF MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN AMERICA. 09:38:50 WE ASK THE PRESS ACTUALLY PULL BACK FROM THE TABLE SO THAT WE 09:38:56 CAN OBSERVE ALL FOUR OF OUR WITNESSES. 09:39:00 AND IF THE PRESS CANNOT DO SO, THEY'LL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE 09:39:07 ROOM. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR 09:39:10 WITNESSES. MEMBERS OF THE IMMIGRATION 09:39:13 SUBCOMMITTEE AND OTHERS WHO JOINED US TODAY TO THE 09:39:16 SUBCOMMITTEE'S HEARING ON PROTECTING AMERICA'S HARVEST. 09:39:19 THE AMERICAN AGRICULTURAL SECTOR HAS LONG SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF 09:39:24 AVAILABLE U.S. WORKERS TO GROW AND PICK AMERICA'S FRUITS AND 09:39:30 V VEGETABLES. 09:39:31 EVEN IN TODAY'S TOP ECONOMIC CLIMATE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR 09:39:34 NOT, INSUFFICIENT AND CONTINUAL NUMBER OF U.S. WORKERS ARE 09:39:40 WILLING TO FILL MANUAL AGRICULTURE JOBS. 09:39:42 AMERICA'S FARMS ARE DEPENDENT ON A RELIABLE WORKFORCE TO PRODUCE 09:39:45 OUR DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLY AND TODAY'S FARMS ARE STRUGGLING TO 09:39:51 STAY IN BUSINESS AS A RESULT OF CURRENT LABOR CHALLENGES. 09:39:54 TODAY'S HEARING, THE LABOR NEEDS OF OUR AGRICULTURAL SECTOR, 09:40:00 ATTEMPT TO RECRUIT WORKERS FOR AGRICULTURAL LABOR, VISA PROGRAM 09:40:05 FOR AGRICULTURAL WORKERS AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. 09:40:08 ONE EXPLANATION FOR WHY AMERICAN WORKERS MAY BE UNWILLING TO 09:40:13 ENGAGE IN MANUAL FARM WORKER WHEN THEY WERE WILLING TO SO 09:40:17 YEARS AGO MAY LIE IN OUR AGRICULTURAL SYSTEM. 09:40:20 IN THE 1940s AND '50s THE NATIVE-BORN WORKFORCE DIDN'T 09:40:26 HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. LAST YEAR THAT NUMBER WAS 5.7%. 09:40:29 IN ANY EVENT, THE DIFFICULT TO OF RECRUITING NATIVE-BORN 09:40:33 WORKERS TO WORK ON FARMS HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY THE UNITED 09:40:36 FORM WORKERS TAKE OUR JOBS PLEASE CAMPAIGN. 09:40:38 THE CAMPAIGN INVITES UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS TO USE THE UFW'S 09:40:45 ASSISTANCE TO OBTAIN EMPLOYMENT AS FARM WORKERS. 09:40:49 YET, ACCORDING TO UFW, EVEN IN THE PERIOD OF HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT 09:40:52 ACROSS ALL EDUCATIONAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC SECTORS OF OUR 09:40:57 SOCIETY, ONLY SEVEN U.S. WORKERS HAVE AGREED TO ACTUALLY WORK IN 09:41:01 THE FIELDS AS OF TODAY. I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME ADVOCATE 09:41:04 FOR FARM WORKERS AND GROWERS. WHEN I WAS ON THE SANTA CLARA 09:41:09 COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE 1980s I WORKED CLOSELY WITH 09:41:13 THE UNITED FARM WORKERS AND FARM BUREAU. 09:41:16 I SPENT TIME AT MANY FARMS. RECENTLY I SPENT THE DAY PICKING 09:41:22 STRAWBERRIES AT A FARM NEAR MY DISTRICT. 09:41:25 UFW INVITED ME TO SPEND A DAY PICKING VEGETABLES AT A FARM IN 09:41:29 NEW YORK WITH STEPHEN COLBERT. I WANT TO THANK ARTURO RODRIGUEZ 09:41:35 FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I WOULD 09:41:37 LIKE TO ADMONISH THE AUDIENCE BEFORE I CONTINUE MY STATEMENT, 09:41:42 THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN ORDER AND DECORUM THROUGHOUT THESE 09:41:46 PROCEEDINGS AND TO THAT END, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF THE 09:41:49 VISITORS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY 09:41:53 MANIFESTATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THESE PROCEEDINGS 09:41:57 OR ANY OTHER DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS. IF NECESSARY, THE CAPITOL POLICE 09:42:02 ARE HERE TO REMOVE ANYONE WHO DISRUPTS THE HEARING. 09:42:06 WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY. 09:42:08 PART OF WHAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS WITHOUT A 09:42:11 SUFFICIENT U.S. LABOR FORCE U.S. FARMERS HAVE INCREASINGLY RELIED 09:42:15 ON UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS. ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF 09:42:18 LABOR, OVER 50% OF ALL SEASONAL AGRICULTURAL WORKERS ARE 09:42:24 UNDOCUMENTED. EXPERTS BELIEVE DUE TO 09:42:27 UNDERREPORTING THAT NUMBER MAY ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO 75%. 09:42:30 CRITICS ARGUE THAT THE SHORTAGE OF U.S. AGRICULTURAL WORKERS 09:42:33 COULD BE SOLVED BY SIMPLY INCREASING WAGES AND WORKING 09:42:37 CONDITIONS. AS A LONGTIME AND ARDENT 09:42:40 SUPPORTER OF FARM WORKERS I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER. 09:42:43 WE MUST ALSO FACE THE REALITY THE NATION'S GROWERS COMPETE 09:42:46 WITH FARMERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS INCREASINGLY 09:42:49 GLOBALIZED WORLD. INCREASING WAGES AND BENEFITS IN 09:42:53 AN AMOUNT NECESSARY TO ATTRACT BILLIONS OF EDUCATED U.S. 09:42:58 WORKERS TO THE FIELDS WOULD MEAN INCREASED PRODUCTION COST THAT 09:43:02 COULD RENDER U.S. FOOD PRODUCTS UNCOMPETITIVE WITH IMPORTED 09:43:06 PRODUCTS. AMERICAN FARMS WOULD THEN CLOSE 09:43:08 IN TURN RESULTING IN THE MASS OFFSHORING OF TENS OF MILLIONS 09:43:12 OF AGRICULTURE AND RELATED JOBS. INDEED, THIS IS ALREADY 09:43:17 HAPPENING. BETWEEN 2007 AND 2008, 1.56 09:43:22 MILLION ACRES OF U.S. FARMLAND WERE SHUT DOWN. 09:43:27 MANY OF THESE FARMS MOVED TO MEXICO. 09:43:31 WHEN FARMS CLOSE OUR COUNTRY SUFFERS. 09:43:33 NOT ONLY DO WE LOSE THE JOBS FILLED BY THOSE WHO WORK IN THE 09:43:38 FIELDS BUT LOSE THE MILLIONS OF UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM JOBS 09:43:41 CONNECTED TO THOSE JOBS WHETHER IT'S PROCESSING, PACKAGING, 09:43:44 TRANSPORTATION, SEED TRUX, MANUFACTURING, ACCOUNTING, 09:43:47 ADVERTISING. THESE JOBS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY 09:43:49 FILLED BY U.S. WORKERS. YET THESE JOBS DISAPPEAR, TOO, 09:43:53 WHEN FARMS ARE CLOSED. ECONOMISTS BELIEVE THAT FOR 09:43:56 EVERY FARM JOB LOST, THE U.S. LOSES ANOTHER 3.1 COMPLEMENTARY 09:44:05 JOBS. ASIDE FROM THE LOSS OF 09:44:11 MILLIONS -- THE TRUTH IS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY DEPENDS ON OUR 09:44:12 ABILITY TO PRODUCE A STABLE DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLY. 09:44:15 LIKE OIL, THE MORE WE RELY ON OTHER COUNTRIES FOR OUR FOOD 09:44:21 SUPPLY, THE MORE WE FALL VICTIM TO AN INCREASED TRADE DEBT, 09:44:25 SCARCITY IN TIMES OF DROUGHT, FLUCTUATING EXTERNAL MARKET 09:44:29 PRICES AND POLITICAL PRESSURE. WE WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE 09:44:32 POSSIBILITY OF FOOD-BORN ILLNESSES AND TERRORIST ATTACKS 09:44:34 THROUGH OUR NATION'S FOOD SUPPLY. 09:44:35 THE PLAIN TRUTH IS FOOD SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY. 09:44:39 AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD TO STOP PRODUCING ITS OWN FOOD SUPPLY 09:44:42 ANDBY NEED THE LABOR FORCE TO DO SO. 09:44:45 TODAY WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR PANEL OF WITNESSES TO BETTER 09:44:49 UNDERSTAND THIS COMPLEX AND VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR AMERICANS. 09:44:52 AMERICAN JOBS, OUR ECONOMY, AND OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. 09:44:56 PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA SPOTLIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL ABILITY TO FOCUS 09:45:00 PUBLIC OPINION ON AN ISSUE. WHETHER IT'S BONO TALKING ABOUT 09:45:05 THIRD WORLD POVERTY OR ANGELINA JOLIE ADVOCATING FOR PROTECTING 09:45:09 CHILDREN AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING, THE POWER OF MEDIA 09:45:13 FIGURES TO USE THEIR CELEBRITY TO FOCUS ATTENTION ON A CENTRAL 09:45:17 PUBLIC ISSUES IS WELL KNOWN AND WELL REGARDED. 09:45:20 I'M HAPPY THAT STEPHEN COLBERT OF THE "COLBERT REPORT" HAS 09:45:25 JOINED THAT GROUP OF CELEBRITIES WHO WILL USE THEIR MEDIA 09:45:28 POSITION TO BENEFIT OTHERS. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MR. 09:45:32 COLBERT'S WRITTEN TESTIMONY, HE'S TAKEN THE TIME TO WALK IN 09:45:35 THE SHOES OF MIGRANT FARM WORKERS AND URGES REFORM OF OUR 09:45:40 IMMIGRATION LAWS. HAPPY THE UNITED FARM WORKERS 09:45:44 HELPED INTRODUCE ME TO MR. COLBERT WHO I HAD NOT MET BEFORE 09:45:48 SO WE COULD SPEND A DAY ON THE FARM TOGETHER. 09:45:50 HIS ACTIONS ARE GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW USING LEVITY AND FAME HE CAN 09:45:57 BRING ATTENTION TO THE GOOD OF THE NATION. 09:46:00 I APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR WITNESS'ESTS TO BE WITH US TODAY 09:46:05 AND THEIR LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA. 09:46:06 I HOPE TOGETHER WE CAN FIND SOLUTIONS TO THESE PRESSING 09:46:09 PROBLEMS. I WOULD RECOGNIZE OUR 09:46:11 DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER STEVE KING FOR HIS OPENING 09:46:15 STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. 09:46:17 I APPRECIATE BEING RECOGNIZED. A THOUGHT THAT COMES TO MIND, 09:46:21 I'M WONDERING HOW THE ESKIMOS GOT ALONG WITHOUT FRESH FRUITS 09:46:27 AND VEGETABLES IF IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. 09:46:29 BEFORE WE START THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PANEL, I'D LIKE TO 09:46:32 FOCUS MY REMARKS ON PROTECTING AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:46:35 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF OUR IMMIGRATION 09:46:39 LAWS IN TODAY'S JOBS, DEPRESSION, HAVE FORMED A 09:46:42 PERFECT STORM FOR HURTING AMERICANS. 09:46:44 THE MOST IMPORTANT DUTY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS WE ENSURE OUR 09:46:46 NATION'S IMMIGRATION POLICY LIFTS UP AMERICANS AND NOT HOLDS 09:46:50 THEM DOWN. I FIND IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY 09:46:52 SOME PEOPLE CARELESSLY CLAIM THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO HARD 09:46:56 WORK. I FIND THIS CLAIM INSULTING AS I 09:46:58 AM SURE MOST HARDWORKING AMERICANS DO. 09:47:01 IT'S MOST INSULTING TO THOSE BRAVE AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO 09:47:04 VOLUNTARILY RISK THEIR LIVES TO DEFEND OUR FREEDOM AND WAY OF 09:47:07 LIFE EVERY DAY. THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT TAKE ON 09:47:10 TERRORISTS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. 09:47:11 TREK FOR MILES ACROSS THE DESERT WITH 70 OR MORE POUNDS OF GEAR 09:47:15 IN 100-PLUS DEGREE TEMPERATURES FOR ABOUT $8.09 AN HOUR. 09:47:20 THAT INCLUDES THE MARINES. MAYBE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING LESS 09:47:25 TIME WATCHING "COMEDY CENTRAL" AND MORE TIME CONSIDERING THE 09:47:27 REAL JOBS OUT THERE, ONES THAT REQUIRE REAL HARD LABOR AND 09:47:32 DON'T INVOLVE SITTING BEHIND A DESK. 09:47:33 WE WOULD REALIZE EVERY DAY AMERICAN WORKERS PERFORM THE 09:47:36 DIRTIEST, MOST DIFFICULT, MOST DANGEROUS JOBS THAT CAN BE 09:47:39 THROWN AT THEM. FROM CRAB FISHERMEN TO VENTURE 09:47:41 INTO THE ROUGHEST AND MOST DANGEROUS WATERS IN THE WORLD TO 09:47:44 THE JOE THE PLUMBERS OF THE WORLD WHO MANY DAYS WOULD PREFER 09:47:49 THE AROMA OF FRESH DIRT TO THAT OF THE SEWAGE FROM AMERICAN 09:47:54 ELITISTS WHO DISPARAGE THEM EVEN AS THEY FLUSH. 09:47:57 THESE ARE REAL AMERICANS DOING REAL JOBS, TASKS THAT SIMPLY 09:48:02 MUST GET DONE. WHEN AMERICAN WORKERS ARE 09:48:05 TREATED WITH RESPECT AND PAID FOR THE LABOR THEY'LL DO ANY JOB 09:48:08 AND OUTWORK ANYONE ON EARTH. AMERICA'S SPIRIT IS HARD WORKING 09:48:13 AND SO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO COMPRISE THIS NATION. 09:48:16 I REPRESENT A RURAL DISTRICT MADE UP OF FARMERS IN FARM 09:48:19 COMMUNITIES AND THE PEOPLE OF IOWA KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO 09:48:22 MANAGE AND EFFECTIVELY ONE A FARM. 09:48:24 ONE ISSUE WITH ATTRACTING MORE AMERICAN WORKERS TO SEASONAL 09:48:28 AGRICULTURAL LABOR IS MOST MIGRANT FARMERS -- THE 09:48:38 DEVASTATING IMPACT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION HAS ON AMERICAN FARM 09:48:41 WORKERS. OF COURSE IT IS ARGUED BY TOM 09:48:44 VILSACK, PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, THAT 09:48:46 FOOD PRICES WOULD BE THREE, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES MORE IF IT WERE 09:48:50 NOT FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS. 09:48:53 THIS IS BLATANTLY FALSE AND CAN'T BE SUPPORTED BY ANY DATA. 09:48:58 DOESN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DEFEND HIMSELF. 09:48:59 DATE TO FROM THE SECRETARY'S OWN DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SHOWS 09:49:03 LABOR COSTS ONLY REPRESENT 6% OF THE PRICE CONSUMERS PAY FOR 09:49:07 FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. DOUBLE THE PAY OF WORKERS AND 09:49:10 SEE ONLY A 6% INCREASE IN CONSUMER PRICES. 09:49:14 HIGHLY RESPECTED AGRICULTURAL ECONOMIST PHILLIP MARTIN OF THE 09:49:17 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA NOTES IF THERE WAS A 40% INCREASE IN 09:49:20 FARM WAGES THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WOULD ONLY SPEND $8 MORE A YEAR 09:49:25 ON FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, LESS THAN THE PRICE OF A MOVIE 09:49:30 TICKET. MOST AMERICANS WOULD PAY $8 MORE 09:49:32 A YEAR IN ORDER TO ENSURE A LEGAL WORKFORCE. 09:49:34 CHEAP LABOR IS NOT WORTH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'S COST TO AMERICANS 09:49:37 AS WORKERS OR TAXPAYERS. THE REALITY IS, EMPLOYERS HIRE 09:49:42 DESPERATE ALIENS WHO WILL WORK FOR MUCH LESS THAN AMERICANS, 09:49:45 DRIVING WAGES DOWN AND MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR AMERICAN WORKERS 09:49:49 TO COMPETE. AS RANKING MEMBER SMITH HAS 09:49:51 POINTED OUT, MANY TIMES IN THE PAST THERE ARE 8 MILLION ILLEGAL 09:49:55 IMMIGRANTS IN THE WORKFORCE COMPETING AGAINST THE 15.4 09:50:00 MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE OFFICIALLY COUNTED AS 09:50:04 UNEMPLOYED, WHICH INCLUDES THE 80 MILLION WHO ARE SIMPLY NOT IN 09:50:09 THE WORKFORCE BECAUSE THEY'VE DROPPED OUT AND ARE NO 09:50:11 LOOKING FOR JOBS AND THEY ARE OF WORKING AGE. 09:50:13 AMERICANS HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR THOSE JOBS BECAUSE WAGES 09:50:17 HAVE BEEN DEPRESSED AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES ELIMINATED BY LOW 09:50:20 SKILLED AND VERY MOBILE IMMIGRATION. 09:50:22 THE PERCENT OF TEENAGERS WHO WORK HAS NEVER BEEN LOWER. 09:50:26 PROFESSOR CAROL SWAIN WILL TESTIFY TODAY ABOUT THE TOLL 09:50:29 MASS IMMIGRATION HAS TAKEN ON MINORITY COMMUNITIES. 09:50:32 WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT ALL OF THIS STARTED LAPPING 09:50:35 WELL BEFORE THE RECESSION. PROFESSOR GEORGE BORHAUS DID 09:50:41 GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH ON THE IMPACT OF IMMIGRATION IN THE 09:50:44 1980s AND '90s ON LOW SKILLED AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:50:48 PROFESSORS ANDREW SUM AND PAUL HARRINGTON AND OTHER RESEARCHERS 09:50:51 AT THE LABOR MARKET STUDIES AT NORTHEASTERN FOUND IN 2005 THAT 09:50:55 GIVEN AND I QUOTE GIVEN LARGE JOB LOSSES AMONG THE NATION'S 09:51:00 TEENS, 20 TO 24-YEAR-OLDS WITH NO FOUR-YEAR DEGREES AND NATIVE 09:51:05 BORN MEN IT IS CLEAR THAT NATIVE BORN WORKERS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED 09:51:09 IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION." 09:51:12 IT'S AMAZING TO ME THAT AMNESTY ADVOCATES SIMPLY IGNORE THE 80 09:51:17 MILLION LABOR POOL. WE CAN EITHER FEED, CHOET AND 09:51:20 HOUSE THEM OR PUT THEM TO WORK TO FEED AND CLOTHE THE WORLD. 09:51:24 THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS ONLY MAGNIFIES THE IMPACT ON AMERICAN 09:51:28 FAMILIES BUT UNLESS OUR POLICIES ARE CHANGED AMERICAN WORKERS AND 09:51:31 FAMILIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNDERMINED EVEN AFTER THE 09:51:34 ECONOMY TURNS THE CORNER. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION FOUND 09:51:38 THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD HEADED BY AN IMMIGRANT HOUSEHOLD 09:51:42 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE RECEIVES OVER $19,000 IN TOTAL 09:51:46 GOVERNMENT BENEFITS MORE THAN THEY PAY IN TAXES FROM FEDERAL, 09:51:49 STATE AND LOCAL. CHEAP LABOR? 09:51:52 AND I THINK ABOUT THE DAY THAT I HAD TO SWIM OUT INTO A SEWER 09:51:57 LAGOON AND DIVE INTO NINE FEET OF FLUID TO RETRIEVE A PUMP AND 09:52:01 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE DAY THAT IT WAS 20 BELOW AND I'M IN THE 09:52:04 WATER FIXING A WATER LINE IN THE WARMEST PLACE THERE WAS IN THE 09:52:09 WATER, THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE IN MY LIFE IN THE CONSTRUCTION 09:52:12 BUSINESS AND WORK WE'VE PUT OUR WORKERS THROUGH IN THE PRIDE 09:52:15 WITH WHICH THEY TAKE, IT MEANS THAT IT'S AN INSULT TO ME TO 09:52:18 HEAR THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO THIS WORK. 09:52:19 I CAN'T THINK OF A JOB THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO DO AND 09:52:22 I CAN'T THINK OF AN EMPLOYEE THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE 28 YEARS 09:52:25 IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS THAT REFUSED TO DO THE WORK THAT 09:52:28 WAS NECESSARY. AMERICANS WILL DO THAT WORK BUT 09:52:30 THEY WANT TO BE PAID A RESPECTABLE WAGE FOR IT. 09:52:32 I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TESTIMONY, MADAM CHAIR AND YIELD BACK THE 09:52:36 BALANCE OF MY TIME. WITH THE AGREEMENT OF THE 09:52:43 MINORITY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE AUTHOR OF THE AG JOBS BILL, 09:52:47 MR. BERMAN FOR HIS STATEMENT AND THEN MR. SMITH AND MR. CONNERS 09:52:52 WILL GIVE THEIR OPENING STATEMENTS. 09:52:54 MR. BERMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 09:52:57 CHAIR AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING A HEARING WHICH 09:53:01 PERHAPS LIKE FEW OTHERS WILL HIGHLIGHT THE CONDITIONS OF 09:53:07 MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY AND TURN ATTENTION TO 09:53:12 THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. I THANK BOTH THE CHAIR AND 09:53:16 RANKING MEMBER AND FULL COMMITTEE FOR ALLOWING TO GO. 09:53:19 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR 40 YEARS AND 09:53:27 IN THE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE EACH SESSION INTRODUCED BIPARTISAN 09:53:32 LEGISLATION TO TRY AND DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. 09:53:38 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I CHAIR ANOTHER COMMITTEE, I HAVE A 09:53:41 HEARING AT 10:00 AND SO I APPRECIATE THE COURTESIES 09:53:46 EXTENDED TO LET ME JUMP IN LINE HERE. 09:53:49 I'M GOING TO FORGO MY PREPARED OPENING STATEMENT BUT I SIMPLY 09:53:55 MUST RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS OF THE RANKING MEMBER, MY FRIEND 09:53:59 THE RANKING MEMBER ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. 09:54:04 THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE CHAIR SAID -- THERE IS NOTHING 09:54:08 IMPLICIT IN THE TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN EXPLICIT OR IMPLICIT 09:54:14 THAT SAID AMERICANS AREN'T DOING HARD WORK AND IF THE GENTLEMAN 09:54:20 FROM IOWA WERE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONDITIONS ON THE 09:54:28 FARMS AND THE WAGES, I WOULD HAVE NOTICED MORE ACTIVITY TO 09:54:33 ENSURE THAT A NUMBER OF THE LAWS THAT APPLY TO ALL OTHER WORKERS 09:54:36 IN AMERICA APPLY WITH EQUAL FORCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO PICK OUR 09:54:42 FRUITS AND VEGETABLES IN THIS COUNTRY. 09:54:44 I WOULD SEE AN EFFORT TO PUSH GREATER APPROPRIATIONS AND 09:54:48 GREATER FUNDING FOR PEOPLE TO MONITOR THE WORKING CONDITIONS 09:54:51 ON OUR FARMS. I'D SEE AN EFFORT TO TRY AND GET 09:54:54 THE RIGHTS THAT ALL OTHER WORKERS HAVE TO COLLECTIVE 09:54:58 BARGAINING EXTENDED TO FARM WORKERS WHO ARE EXCLUDED FROM 09:55:01 OUR NATIONAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LEGISLATION. 09:55:04 THE FACT IS THAT WHILE AMERICANS OVER AND OVER AGAIN HAVE 09:55:10 PRODUCED BOTH THEIR -- HAVE SHOWN BOTH THEIR COURAGE AND 09:55:13 THEIR WILLINGNESS TO UNDERTAKE TERRIBLY DIFFICULT JOBS, JOBS 09:55:17 THAT I WOULD DARE TO SAY THE PEOPLE ON THIS PODIUM INCLUDING 09:55:22 MYSELF WOULD BE VERY RELUCTANT TO TAKE STUDY AFTER STUDY 09:55:28 INCLUDING STUDIES AT THE TIME OF WELFARE REFORM WHERE HUGE 09:55:32 NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE FORCED OFF OF THE WELFARE 09:55:37 R ROLLS AND COUNTIES WHERE 09:55:39 UNEMPLOYMENT WAS TWO OR THREE TIMES THE AVERAGE OF THE COUNTRY 09:55:46 GENERALLY, PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE NO INCOME AND NO WELFARE 09:55:51 THAN TAKE THE BACK-BREAKING JOBS THAT THE MIGRANT FARM WORKER HAS 09:55:58 TO DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. 09:56:02 YOU CAN TRY AND CHEAP SEAT IT ALL YOU WANT, BUT WE KNOW THAT 09:56:08 WERE IT NOT FOR IMMIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY THERE 09:56:14 WOULD BE NO SEASONAL FRESH FRUIT AND VEGETABLE INDUSTRY AND I 09:56:19 JOIN THE GENTLEMAN WANTING BETTER WAGES AND BETTER WORKING 09:56:23 CONDITIONS AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY AND 09:56:26 IMPROVE THOSE CONDITIONS, BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, STUDY 09:56:29 AFTER STUDY HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THESE JOBS ARE NOT TAKEN BY 09:56:35 U.S. WORKERS EVEN WHEN UNEMPLOYED, EVEN WHEN HAVING NO 09:56:39 OTHER SIGNIFICANT MEANS OF SUPPORT. 09:56:41 AND NOTHING THAT -- NO RHETORICAL FLOURISHES CAN HIDE 09:56:46 THAT FACT. I COMMEND THE GENTLE LADY FOR 09:56:50 HOLDING THIS HEARING. I WANT TO PAY A SPECIAL 09:56:52 RECOGNITION FOR MY DEAR FRIEND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM 09:56:56 WORKERS UNION, ARTURO RODRIGUEZ AND THE OTHER WITNESSES, AS WELL 09:57:00 AND APOLOGIZE FOR -- I HOPE TO COME BACK WHEN MY HEARING IS 09:57:04 OVER BUT NOT TO BE HERE FOR THE ENTIRE HEARING. 09:57:07 I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. BERMAN. 09:57:09 WE WOULD NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL 09:57:11 COMMITTEE MR. SMITH FOR HIS OPENING STATEMENT AND HE WILL BE 09:57:16 FOLLOWED BY MR. CONYERS AND THEN JUST TO KEEP IT EVEN WE'LL 09:57:21 INVITE MR. LUNDGREN TO HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND OTHERS 09:57:25 WILL BE INVITED TO SUBMIT OPENING STATEMENTS. 09:57:28 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AMERICAN WORKERS FACE TOUGH 09:57:32 ECONOMIC TIMES. WITH UNEMPLOYMENT ALMOST 10% FOR 09:57:35 THE FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION, JOBS HAVE BECOME SCARCE AND 09:57:39 MILLIONS OF FAMILIES ARE HURTING. 09:57:42 THE PEW HISPANIC CENTER ESTIMATES THERE ARE MORE THAN 7 09:57:46 MILLION ILLEGAL WORKERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 09:57:50 ALEXANDER ALANAKOFF, I.N.S. OFFICIAL AND HIGH COMMISSIONER 09:57:55 FOR REFUGEES CALLS IT A MYTH THAT THERE ARE LITTLE OR NO 09:58:00 COMPETITION BETWEEN UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS AND AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:58:04 THIS COMPETITION HAS HAD DEVASTATING EFFECTS ON THE MOST 09:58:07 VULNERABLE OF AMERICANS. OVER 32% OF NATIVE-BORN WORKERS 09:58:12 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE ARE EITHER UNEMPLOYED, FORCED TO 09:58:15 WORK PART TIME OR TOO DISCOURAGED TO EVEN LOOK FOR 09:58:19 WORK. FOR NATIVE BORN HISPANICS 09:58:21 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE, THE RATE IS 35%. 09:58:25 FOR NATIVE BORN AFRICAN-AMERICANS WITHOUT A HIGH 09:58:27 SCHOOL DEGREE, THE RATE IS 43%. WE COULD MAKE MILLIONS OF JOBS 09:58:34 AVAILABLE TO AMERICAN CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS IF THE 09:58:37 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SIMPLY ENFORCED OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. 09:58:41 ABOUT HALF OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. 09:58:46 SO THAT MEANS THAT A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF LEGAL WORKERS, LABOR 09:58:51 IN THE FIELDS, PERHAPS AS MANY AS HALF. 09:58:54 CERTAINLY EVEN MORE WOULD TAKE THESE JOBS IF THE WAGES AND 09:58:57 WORKING CONDITIONS WERE BETTER. THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS WE HAVE 09:59:01 TO SAVE JOBS FOR AMERICANS ARE 10:00:00 LAMARR SMITH: FINES JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. 10:00:01 AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ILLEGAL WORKERS? 10:00:03 THEY WALK DOWN THE STREET AND TAKE ANOTHER JOB THAT COULD HAVE 10:00:07 GONE TO AN AMERICAN WORKER. CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS 10:00:11 SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO COMPETE WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOR 10:00:15 SCARCE JOBS. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SHOULD 10:00:18 PUT THE INTEREST OF AMERICAN WORKERS FIRST. 10:00:21 LET ME POINT OUT THAT ONE WITNESS, STEPHEN COLBERT, HAS 10:00:25 SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE ISSUE OF JOBS AMERICANS SUPPOSEDLY WON'T 10:00:29 DO. A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN DEBATING 10:00:31 HIMSELF ON HIS SHOW, HE ASKED, "DON'T WE WANT TO HAVE CHEAP 10:00:35 LABOR FOR ALL THE JOBS WE DON'T WANT TO DO" HE RESPONDED, "YEAH, 10:00:41 UNLESS YOU'RE AN AMERICAN LANDSCAPER OR AN AMERICAN 10:00:45 CONSTRUCTION WORKER." THEN HE ADDED "BUT I AM AN 10:00:48 AMERICAN TV HOST. MY JOB IS SAFE." 10:00:51 MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WISH THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPETE WITH 10:00:54 CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR AND HAD SUCH A SAFE JOB. 10:00:59 UNFORTUNATELY, 17 MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS ARE OUT OF JOBS 10:01:03 OR HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR WORK. 10:01:05 IT'S NO LAUGHING MATTER TO PRETEND THAT AMERICANS DON'T 10:01:07 WANT JOBS. PAY THEM MORE IF NEEDED BUT 10:01:11 DON'T INSULT AMERICAN WORKERS BY TELLING THEM THE GOVERNMENT 10:01:13 CARES MORE ABOUT ILLEGAL WORKERS THAN U.S. CITIZENS. 10:01:18 I THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND YIELD BACK. 10:01:20 THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. MR. CONYERS WOULD BE RECOGNIZED 10:01:25 FOR ANY OPENING STATEMENT HE MAY WISH TO GIVE AT THIS TIME. 10:01:29 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT HERE. 10:01:35 I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO MY GOOD FRIEND THE RANKING MEMBER STEVE 10:01:40 KING THAT WE FORMED THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN GET 10:01:46 EVERYBODY TO WORK VERY QUICKLY BETWEEN YOU AND I, WE COULD 10:01:53 PROBABLY RECRUIT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SOLVE 10:01:59 THIS PROBLEM EVEN THOUGH THE FARM WORKERS COULDN'T DO IT, 10:02:04 SENATOR FEINSTEIN WASN'T TOO SUCCESSFUL AND YOU SAY IT'S 10:02:08 PRETTY EASY, SO I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS. 10:02:11 WHAT DO YOU SAY? MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE 10:02:15 YOU YIELDING TO ME AND I HAVE RECRUITED FARM WORKERS AND HIRED 10:02:19 THEM AND PAID THEM SO WHAT I HAD HAD TO DO WAS RAISE THE WAGES 10:02:23 AND BENEFITS IN ORDER TO ATTRACT PEOPLE AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE 10:02:27 MIGRANT, THE OKEYS WENT TO CALIFORNIA FOR JOBS AND SO IF 10:02:29 YOU OFFER THE WAGES AND THE MARKET AND DEMAND WE'LL PROVIDE 10:02:34 THE VALUE THEN THE WORKERS WILL SHOW UP. 10:02:36 THE LEGAL WORKERS WILL SHOW UP. SO THE ANSWER IS, YES. 10:02:40 I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONSIDER THAT 10:02:43 LABOR IS THE COMMODITY LIKE CORN OR BEANS OR TOMATOES AND THAT A 10:02:47 SUPPLY AND DEMAND ESTABLISHES ITS VALUE IN THE MARKETPLACE. 10:02:51 AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THEM BEING 10:02:55 ORGANIZED MEMBERS OF A UNION. I THINK IF YOU WANT TO MARKET 10:03:00 YOUR SKILLS YOU DO IT THE BEST WAY YOU CAN MARKET YOUR SKILLS. 10:03:03 RIGHT, WELL, THANKS A LOT. I'LL SEE YOU AFTER THE HEARING. JOHN CONYERS EXCHANGE WITH STEPHEN COLBERT 10:03:09 WE'LL GET STARTED. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, 10:03:11 MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. 10:03:14 AND NOW TO STEPHEN COLBERT, WHO I ENJOY AND HAVE FOR MANY YEARS. 10:03:22 I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE HELPED US FILL THE ROOM AND I 10:03:27 HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY CAMERAS SINCE WHEN, MADAM CHAIR? 10:03:32 BEEN A WHILE. MAYBE IT WAS IMPEACHMENT BUT 10:03:34 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS KIND OF COVERAGE. 10:03:41 THAT'S A HAUNTING REMEMBRANCE. 10:03:45 NOW, HERE'S WHAT I SUGGEST SO THAT OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES 10:03:52 CAN -- WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. 10:03:58 MR. COLBERT HAS PRESENTED US WITH A FINE STATEMENT. 10:04:03 IT'LL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. 10:04:05 HE'S GOT A HUGE MARCH COMING ON OCTOBER 30th, SATURDAY, HERE IN 10:04:14 WASHINGTON, WHICH MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AT. 10:04:19 I KNOW I'VE GOT A VERY GOOD FEELING ABOUT THAT. 10:04:24 I'LL BE BUSY WORKING IN MICHIGAN TRYING TO TURN OUT THE VOTE. 10:04:30 WE'VE BEEN HAVING A VERY LOW VOTER TURNOUT, SO THAT'S THE 10:04:35 ONLY REASON I WON'T BE WITH YOU IN THE MARCH. 10:04:39 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THIS 10:04:45 ATTENTION, THAT YOU EXCUSE YOURSELF AND THAT YOU LET US GET 10:04:51 ON WITH THE THREE WITNESSES AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS THERE AND 10:05:02 WE'RE SURE IT WILL BE SHOWN ON THE SHOW TONIGHT AND MAYBE 10:05:08 MONDAY -- I DON'T KNOW. YOU RUN YOUR SHOW. 10:05:13 WE RUN THE COMMITTEE. BUT WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT, 10:05:19 STEPHEN? YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION? 10:05:21 I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE 10:05:24 QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS THAT -- I'M NOT 10:05:29 ASKING YOU NOT TO TALK. I'M ASKING YOU TO LEAVE THE 10:05:32 COMMITTEE ROOM COMPLETELY AND SUBMIT YOUR STATEMENT INSTEAD. 10:05:42 MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. 10:05:44 I'M WONDERING IF SINCE MR. COLBERT'S MICROPHONE ISN'T ON 10:05:52 AND CAN'T BE HEARD WHETHER HAVING POSED THE QUESTION WE 10:05:55 COULD LISTEN TO MR. LUNDGREN AND MR. COLBERT CAN PONDER WHAT 10:06:00 YOU'VE SAID. I THINK MANY ARE EAGER TO HEAR 10:06:02 HIS COMMENTS THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. 10:06:12 I'M HERE AT THE INVITATION OF THE CAN CHAIRWOMAN AND IF SHE 10:06:16 WOULD LIKE ME TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE HEARING ROOM, I'M HAPPY 10:06:19 TO DO SO. I'M ONLY HERE AT HER INVITATION. 10:06:22 THAT DID CORRECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:06:23 THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS 10:06:25 EXPIRED. WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM 10:06:31 MR. LUNDGREN WHO WILL MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND THEN IN 10:06:35 THE INTEREST OF PROCEEDING TO OUR WITNESSES, WE WILL INVITE 10:06:39 OTHER MEMBERS TO SUBMIT THEIR STATEMENTS FOR THE RECORD. 10:06:43 MR. LUPDZ DREN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 10:06:44 CHAIR. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE 10:06:49 FOR SOME 30 YEARS. I CONFESS THAT I WAS THE 10:06:55 REPUBLICAN FLOOR MANAGER FOR THE SIMPSON MASOLI BILL. 10:06:59 I THOUGHT AT THAT TIME WE HAD PRESENTED A REASONABLE SOLUTION 10:07:03 TO THE PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN THIS COUNTRY. 10:07:08 UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE THE LEGALIZATION PROGRAM WHICH WAS 10:07:10 SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE-TIME ONLY PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL, THERE 10:07:14 WAS A TOTAL FAILURE WITH RESPECT TO ENFORCEMENT. 10:07:19 WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT LAW THE SAW RAW PROGRAM, SEASONAL 10:07:26 AGRICULTURAL WORKER PROGRAM AND R 10:07:31 REPLENISHMENT WORKER PROGRAM BOTH OF WHICH WERE RIDDLED WITH 10:07:35 FRAUD. WHICH SOME OF US SUGGESTED WOULD 10:07:38 HAPPEN WHEN WE AOPPOSED THAT SECTION OF THE BILL. 10:07:44 SINCE THAT TIME AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT BY THE 10:07:48 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE SEEN A CONTINUATION OF THE FLOW OF 10:07:51 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OF THIS COUNTRY SO THAT IT IS OF A 10:07:53 LARGER DIMENSION THAN IT WAS BACK IN THE 1980s. 10:07:57 AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAD THE HIGHEST RATE OF UNEMPLOYMENT I 10:08:01 BELIEVE IN MY ADULT LIFETIME AND IN MY DISTRICT WE HAVE A HIGHER 10:08:06 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHICH HAS A HIGHER 10:08:09 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAN ALL BUT TWO STATES. 10:08:13 IT IS A SEVERE PROBLEM. I HAVE AGRICULTURE IN MY 10:08:18 DISTRICT AND I HAVE URBAN AREAS IN MY DISTRICT. 10:08:23 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE OUGHT TO BE -- WE OUGHT TO PUT ALL THE 10:08:31 FACTS ON THE TABLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE 10:08:34 DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF OUR ECONOMY MOST OF WHICH IN MY 10:08:40 OPINION CAN SUCCESSFULLY ATTRACT AMERICAN WORKERS. 10:08:43 I SEE NO REASON RIGHT NOW FOR THE PRESUMED OR THE ASSUMED LACK 10:08:51 OF OPPORTUNITY FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN YOUNG MALES IN 10:08:53 THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES. I SEE NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER 10:08:58 THAT IN THE AREA OF CONSTRUCTION OR LANDSCAPING THERE IS A NEED 10:09:02 FOR FOREIGN WORKERS. I THINK THE INTELLIGENT THING 10:09:06 FOR US TO DO IS ESTABLISH LAWS WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO LOOK 10:09:13 ECONOMIC SECTOR BY ECONOMIC SECTOR AND MAKE A DETERMINATION 10:09:16 THROUGH OUR GOVERNMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A NEED 10:09:20 FOR FOREIGN WORKERS. NOW, I'VE NEVER WORKED IN THE 10:09:25 FEELS. I'VE WORKED ON RANCHES, I WORKED 10:09:27 IN CONSTRUCTION AND WORKED IN SHIPYARDS. 10:09:29 IT'S ALL TOUGH WORK. I DOUBT IT IS AS TOUGH AS THE 10:09:32 WORK I HAVE SEEN THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE FARM FIELDS DO. 10:09:39 IT IS REALLY TOUGH WORK. BEING FROM CALIFORNIA, I HAPPEN 10:09:43 TO BELIEVE THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT WE CANNOT ATTRACT 10:09:48 SUFFICIENT AMERICANS FOR AGRICULTURE PURPOSES AND, 10:09:52 THEREFORE, I HAVE ALWAYS SUGGESTED WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH A 10:09:55 PROGRAM THAT WORKS AND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DETERMINE 10:10:00 THROUGH THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS THE CONTOURS OF AND THEN ON AN 10:10:05 ANNUAL BASIS WE MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO HOW MANY 10:10:08 PEOPLE ARE NEEDED IN THIS COUNTRY. 10:10:10 BUT I'M SORRY, MY FRIEND, MR. BERMAN HAS LEFT BECAUSE ONE 10:10:14 OF THE PROBLEMS WITH HIS AG JOBS BILL IS THAT IT GRANTS PEOPLE 10:10:18 THE PATH TO CITIZENSHIP WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY 10:10:23 AS A MAJOR TENANT OF THIS PROGRAM. 10:10:25 I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS 10:10:32 THIS, THERE IS AN ESSENTIAL NOTION IN OUR SOCIETY I BELIEVE 10:10:38 FROM THE TIME WE'RE ON SCHOOL YARDS AND EVEN BEFORE THAT THAT 10:10:42 CUTTING IN LINE IS UNFAIR AND I HAVE TO ASK THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 10:10:47 FROM THE DESCENDING COUNTRIES WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW AND DID NOT 10:10:50 COME INTO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGAL BUT WISH TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY 10:10:53 WHAT DOES IT SAY TO THEM THAT THEY GET PUT BEHIND THOSE THAT 10:10:58 WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW SO ALL I WOULD SAY IS THIS, I THINK 10:11:02 WE CAN REACH A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION TO THIS IF WE 10:11:09 RECOGNIZE THAT ENFORCEMENT IN THE PAST WAS NOT THERE AND, 10:11:12 THEREFORE, ENCOURAGED CONTINUING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. 10:11:16 A FAILURE TO HAVE A WORKABLE TEMPORARY WORKER PROGRAM IS 10:11:24 CAUSE TO SOME OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE AND I THINK THIRDLY 10:11:27 THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN AMNESTY COMPONENT IN A PROGRAM. 10:11:32 THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WE CAN TREAT PEOPLE HUMANELY AND DEAL 10:11:35 WITH THIS PROBLEM WITHOUT THAT BECAUSE I FEAR, MADAM CHAIR THAT 10:11:39 IF WE HAVE THAT AS A COMPONENT OF ANY LEGISLATION WE HAVE, THE 10:11:43 AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT SUPPORT IT AND WE WILL FAIL TO DEAL WITH 10:11:48 A REAL CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE CONFRONTING US TODAY. 10:11:54 AMONG ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WE ALWAYS SEE THAT WE ALSO 10:11:58 HAVE THE BACKDROP OF THE THREAT OF TERRORISM TODAY. 10:12:02 AND I AM NOT AND NEVER HAVE SUGGESTED THAT MOST PEOPLE WHO 10:12:05 ARE HERE ILLEGALLY ARE TERRORISTS OR THAT THERE'S A 10:12:07 LARGE NUMBER OF IT. ALL I SAY IS THE LONGER YOU HAVE 10:12:10 A POROUS BORDER, THE GREATER OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE FOR 10:12:13 TERRORISTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT 10:12:16 WE DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS WE DO TODAY. 10:12:19 WE DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN 1984 OR '86 WHEN WE WERE DEALING 10:12:24 IN THE SIMPSON/MASOLI LEGISLATION. 10:12:29 I WANT THANK MR. COLBERT FOR BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE 10:12:33 QUESTION OF WORKERS IN THE FIELD. 10:12:38 IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO SAY ANYTHING TO HIM BECAUSE YOU'RE 10:12:40 NOT SURE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN RETURN OR WHAT WILL APPEAR ON 10:12:43 TV AND I KNOW HE WOULD NEVER TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT. 10:12:48 SO THAT I GUESS I MIGHT AS WELL QUIT WHILE I'M AHEAD. 10:12:51 THANK YOU AND YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. 10:12:57 WE -- I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PANEL OF WITNESSES BEFORE US 10:13:05 AND I WILL START BY INTRODUCING DR. CAROL M. SWAIN. 10:13:10 PROFESSOR SWAIN IS CURRENTLY A PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE 10:13:13 AND PROFESSOR OF LAW AT VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY AND A 10:13:17 MEMBER OF THE JAMES MADISON SOCIETY OF PRINCETON UNIVERSITY. 10:13:20 SHE RECEIVED HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM ROANOKE COLLEGE AND 10:13:24 HER MASTERS FROM VIRGINIA POLYTECHNICAL INSTITUTE AND 10:13:28 STATE UNIVERSITY. SHE HOLES A Ph.D. FROM THE 10:13:31 UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA AT CHAPEL HILL AND IN 2000 SHE WAS 10:13:35 AWARDED AN MLS FROM YALE LAW SCHOOL. 10:13:38 SHE SPECIALIZENESS RACE RELATIONS AND IMMIGRATION AND IS 10:13:40 THE AUTHOR OF SEVERAL BOOKS INCLUDING HER MOST RECENT 10:13:45 "DEBATING IMMIGRATION: A COLLECTION OF HE SAYS FROM 10:13:48 PROFESSOR SWAIN AND OTHER SCHOLARS ON CONTEMPORARY 10:13:52 IMMIGRATION." NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE 10:13:55 PHIL GLAIZE HE IS A THIRD GENERATION FRUIT GROWER, FORMER 10:13:59 CHAIR OF THE U.S. APPLE ASSOCIATION, A NONPROFIT 10:14:03 MEMBERSHIP ASSOCIATION SERVING THE INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE 10:14:06 AMERICAN APPLE INDUSTRY AND AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE AGRICULTURE 10:14:10 COALITION FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM. 10:14:13 U.S. APPLE REPRESENTS A $2 BILLION INDUSTRY WITH OVER 7500 10:14:19 COMMERCIAL GROWERS NATIONWIDE. MR. GLAIZE'S FAMILY BUSINESSES 10:14:25 GROWS, PACKS AND SHIPS APPLES FOR THE FRESH AND PROCESSED 10:14:27 MARKETS AND HAS BEEN PRODUCING APPLES IN SHENANDOAH IN FRED 10:14:31 KICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA, SINCE THE 1920s. 10:14:34 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR THIRD WITNESS, ARTURO 10:14:38 RODRIGUEZ. SINCE 1993, MR. RODRIGUEZ HAS 10:14:41 SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM WORKERS, THE LARGEST 10:14:44 FARM WORKERS UNION IN THE UNITED STATES FOUNDED BY CAESAR CHAVEZ. 10:14:49 A VETERAN FARM ORGANIZER HE BECAME ACTIVE AS A STUDENT IN 10:14:55 1969 WITH UAW AND HOLDS A MASTERS DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK 10:14:59 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND HAS WORKED FOR THE UAW SINCE 10:15:04 1973. MR. RODRIGUEZ HAS OVER 35 YEARS 10:15:07 OF EXPERIENCE ORGANIZING FARM WORKERS, NEGOTIATING UNION 10:15:11 CONTRACTS AND LEADING FARM WORKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR 10:15:14 FAIR WAGES AND WORKING CONDITIONS. 10:15:17 FINALLY IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE STEPHEN COLBERT, MR. 10:15:22 COLBERT IS THE HOST AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THE EMMY 10:15:24 AWARD AND PEABODY AWARD-WINNING SERIES ON COMEDY CENTRAL 10:15:29 "COLBERT REPORT." THE SERIES WON THE PEABODY AWARD 10:15:31 FOR EXCELLENCE IN BROADCASTING IN 2008 AND HAS GARNERED A TOTAL 10:15:35 OF 15 EMMY NOMINATIONS. MR. COLBERT AND HIS WRITING TEAM 10:15:39 HAVE WON TWO EMMYS FOR OUTSTANDING WRITING FOR A 10:15:43 VARIETY MUSIC OR COMEDY PROGRAM. HE RECENTLY TRAVELED TO AN 10:15:46 UPSTATE NEW YORK VEGETABLE FARM TO EXPERIENCE THE LIFE OF A FARM 10:15:49 WORKER THROUGH THE UNITED FARM WORKERS TAKE OUR JOB INITIATIVE 10:15:53 AND HE HAS ALSO WORKED WITH THE FARM WORKERS TO TRY TO PUBLICIZE 10:15:57 THEIR TAKE OUR JOBS PLEASE CAMPAIGN IN THE EFFORT TO 10:16:02 HIGHLIGHT THE SHORTAGE THAT WE FACE. 10:16:04 NOW, EACH OF YOU HAS PREPARED A WRITTEN STATEMENT. 10:16:08 AND THAT STATEMENT, THOSE WRITTEN STATEMENTS WILL BE MADE 10:16:11 PART OF OUR OFFICIAL RECORD. AT THIS POINT WE WOULD LIKE YOU 10:16:14 TO SUMMARIZE YOUR STATEMENT IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. 10:16:19 THERE ARE LITTLE MACHINES ON THE TABLE. 10:16:20 YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GREEN. 10:16:23 WHEN FOUR MINUTES IS UP THEY'LL TURN YELLOW AND WHEN FIVE 10:16:26 MINUTES IS UP IT'LL BE RED. AND AT THAT POINT WE WOULD LIKE 10:16:32 YOU TO CONCLUDE, NOT MIDSENTENCE BUT SUM UP AND SO THAT ALL OF 10:16:37 THE WITNESSES CAN BE HEARD AND ALSO SO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE 10:16:41 WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS. 10:16:44 FIRST WE WILL GO TO YOU, DR. SWAIN FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. DR SWAIN: 10:16:51 GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO 10:16:55 TESTIFY ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. I SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF 10:17:00 MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMMIGRATION LAWS 10:17:05 VIGOROUSLY ENFORCED. I CONTEND THAT AMERICA DOES NOT 10:17:09 HAVE A SHORTAGE OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS. 10:17:12 INSTEAD WE HAVE A MANUFACTURED CRISIS BY SOME WHO WOULD LIKE TO 10:17:17 ENSURE A STEADY SUPPLY OF CHEAP LABOR AND IN SOME CASES LABOR 10:17:21 THAT BYPASSES THE H2A AND H-2B VISA PROGRAMS. 10:17:27 THE H2A PROGRAM IS FOR AGRICULTURAL WORKERS, THE H-2B 10:17:34 PROGRAM IS FOR NONAGRICULTURAL MOSTLY LOW SKILLED WORKERS. 10:17:38 LABOR ECONOMIST PHILLIP MARTIN WHO HAS CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE 10:17:41 STUDIES OF FARM LABOR IN THE AREAS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLE 10:17:44 PRODUCTION HAS FOUND RISING PRODUCTION IN CROPS AND STAGNANT 10:17:48 WAGES FOR THE WORKERS. MEANWHILE, THE COST OF HOUSEHOLD 10:17:54 EXPENDITURES ON FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES HAS REMAINED 10:17:56 CONSTANT. IF THERE WERE LABOR SHORTAGES 10:17:59 FOR AGRICULTURE WORKERS ONE WOULD EXPECT TO FIND RISING 10:18:03 WAGES AND MORE ATTRACTIVE WORKING CONDITIONS. 10:18:05 ONE WOULD NOT EXPECT TO FIND UNEMPLOYMENT RATES OF 10.8% IN 10:18:10 MAY AND 7.9% IN AUGUST. THESE UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES 10:18:14 INDICATE THAT THERE ARE NATIVE WORKERS ACTIVELY SEEKING 10:18:17 EMPLOYMENT IN THE SECTOR THAT INCLUDES AGRICULTURAL WORKERS, 10:18:22 FORESTRY, FISHING AND HUNTING. THE MAJORITY OF AGRICULTURAL 10:18:25 WORKERS HAS LESS THAN A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION. 10:18:27 THEY WORK UNDER THE MOST STRENUOUS CONDITIONS 10:18:31 CONSEQUENTLY THERE IS A HIGH TURNOVER RATE AMONG THESE 10:18:34 WORKERS. AGRICULTURAL WORKERS OFTEN LEAVE 10:18:37 THE FARMS FOR OTHER LOW WAGE, LOW SKILL OCCUPATIONS. 10:18:42 THERE THEY COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH LOW SKILLED AMERICANS FOR A 10:18:47 DWINDLING SUPPLY OF LOW WAGE JOBS. 10:18:49 THE UFW'S HUMOROUS TAKE OUR JOBS INITIATIVE ENTIRELY OR PERHAPS 10:18:55 DELIBERATELY MISSES THE POINT. AMERICA CANNOT CONTINUE TO BRING 10:19:00 IN LOW-SKILLED GUEST WORKERS TO COMPETE WITH THE MOST 10:19:04 DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS, THE POOR WHITES, THE BLACKS, THE 10:19:07 LEGAL HISPANICS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE LEGALLY. 10:19:11 NOR CAN IT CONTINUE TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO ILLEGAL 10:19:18 IMMIGRATION. OFTEN SURPLUS LABOR THAT STARTS 10:19:20 IN THE FIELDS MIGRATES INTO OTHER INDUSTRIES. 10:19:25 WITHOUT SURPLUS LABOR EMPLOYERS WOULD BE FORCED TO PAY HIGHER 10:19:28 WAGES AND MANY WOULD BE FORCED TO IMPROVE SUBSTANDARD WORKING 10:19:31 CONDITIONS. INSTEAD OF PAYING $8 OR $9 PER 10:19:37 HOUR EMPLOYERS MIGHT BE FORCED TO PAY $12 OR $13. 10:19:42 PHIL MARTIN SHOWS THAT AN INCREASE IN THE WAGES OF FARM 10:19:45 WORKERS WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE AVERAGE FAMILY'S 10:19:49 FOOD BILL. HE ESTIMATED THAT THE AVERAGE 10:19:52 FAMILY'S FOOD BILL WOULD RISE BY ABOUT $8 A YEAR. 10:19:56 THE TAKE OUR JOBS INITIATIVE MISSES THE FACT THAT IN SOME 10:19:59 PARTS OF THE COUNTRY FAY TIFF WORKERS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED 10:20:02 ALONGSIDE IMMIGRANTS. YESTERDAY I HAD A CONVERSATION 10:20:07 WITH A BUSINESSMAN FROM NASHVILLE WHO RAN A ONE-YEAR 10:20:12 EXPERIMENT IN HELENA, ARKANSAS, INVOLVING SWEET POTATO PLANTING 10:20:16 AND HARVESTING. MR. DON KERR OF KERR INDUSTRIES 10:20:20 INVESTED OVER $250,000 OF HIS OWN MONEY TO HELP UNEMPLOYED 10:20:25 AMERICANS GET JOBS IN THE FIELDS IN AN AREA OF THE COUNTRY WHERE 10:20:30 UNEMPLOYMENT IS AROUND 40% FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. 10:20:33 HIS EXPERIMENT INVOLVED H2A WORK HE, THE AGRICULTURE WORKERS HERE 10:20:38 ON VISAS AND NATIVE BORN BLACKS WHO WERE PICKED UP FROM A 10:20:42 CENTRAL LOCATION, THEY WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE JOB SITE, 10:20:45 THEY WERE PROVIDED WITH BATHROOM AND LUNCH ROOM FACILITIES AND A 10:20:50 DECENT WAGE. MR. KERR SAW NO DIFFERENCES IN 10:20:52 THE QUALITY OF THE WORK PROVIDED BY THE NATIVE BORN BLACK 10:20:56 AMERICAN WORKERS AND HE CONCLUDED THAT AMERICAN WORKERS 10:20:59 WOULD DO FARM WORK IF THEY HAVE TRANSPORTATION AND DECENT 10:21:04 WORKING CONDITIONS. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD A PROBLEM -- 10:21:08 EVEN THOUGH HE HAD A PROGRAM THAT WAS PROVIDING JOBS FOR 10:21:11 UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS HE COULD NOT GET STATE OR FEDERAL 10:21:14 AGENCIES TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN THE PROGRAM. 10:21:16 HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE INDEPENDENT -- AN INDEPENDENT 10:21:21 FARM SERVICE COMMITTEE TO STAND BETWEEN THE WORKERS AND GROWERS, 10:21:24 THE AGENCY WOULD HIRE THE WORKERS, PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION 10:21:27 AND AIR CONDITIONED BUSES, BATHROOM AND LUNCH FACILITIES 10:21:31 AND WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE AGRICULTURE WORKERS 10:21:33 AND THE GROWERS. THE UFW'S TAKE OUR JOB 10:21:38 INITIATIVE HAS NOT IN MY OPINION HAS NOT MADE A SERIOUS EFFORT TO 10:21:42 RECRUIT AMERICAN WORKERS. THIS IS A PUBLICITY STUNT. 10:21:46 WE NEED TO REFORM IMMIGRATION. THE RAPID INFLUX OF CHEAP LABOR 10:21:50 FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES CREATES AN OVERSUPPLY OF LABOR THAT 10:21:53 WORKS AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF NATIVE WORKERS. 10:21:55 IT DEPRESSES THEIR WAGES. IT REDUCES THEIR OPPORTUNITIES 10:21:59 AND IT DETERS EMPLOYERS FROM INVESTING IN NATIVE HUMAN 10:22:05 CAPITAL. COMPOUNDING THESE PROBLEMS, 10:22:08 NATIVE BORN BLACKS AND HISPANICS SUFFERS MORE THAN ANY OTHER 10:22:11 GROUP. YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THEIR 10:22:12 UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AND IT'S IN MY P.M. 10:22:14 IT'S OFF THE CHARTS. THIS IS A DISGRACE. 10:22:17 CONGRESS NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT REFORMING IMMIGRATION AND 10:22:20 THEY NEED TO PROTECT THE MOST DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS. 10:22:23 THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:22:26 DR. SWAIN. WE'LL TURN NOW TO MR. GLAIZE FOR 10:22:31 YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. 10:22:35 COULD YOU TURN ON THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. 10:22:37 A LITTLE BUTTON. THERE YOU GO. 10:22:46 NOPE, IT'S STILL NOT ON. WE WILL. 10:22:51 I AM HONORED TO TESTIFY TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE U.S. APPLE 10:22:55 ASSOCIATION AND AGRICULTURE COALITION FOR IMMIGRATION 10:22:57 REFORM. MY NAME IS PHIL GLAIZE WITH 10:23:04 OPERATIONS IN SHENANDOAH AND FRED KICK COUNTIES, VIRGINIA, 10:23:06 AND WE EMPLOY FROM 30 TO 155 WORKERS DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF 10:23:10 YEAR. THE FACT I APPEAR BEFORE YOU AS 10:23:12 A FARMER WITH ARTURO RODRIGUEZ, THE PRESIDENT OF UFW SHOULD SEND 10:23:16 A VERY POWERFUL MESSAGE. AMERICAN FARMERS AND THE FARM 10:23:21 WORKERS HAVE A COMMON PROBLEM. DESPITE CONTINUED ATTEMPTS AT 10:23:25 AUTOMATION, APPLES STILL NEED TO BE MANUALLY PRUNED AND HAND 10:23:30 PICKED. THE WORK IS PHYSICALLY DEMANDING 10:23:32 AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SKILL IS NECESSARY. 10:23:35 APPLES BRUISE EASILY. AND IMPROPER PICKING WILL 10:23:38 GREATLY REDUCE THE VALUE OF OUR CROP. 10:23:40 WE NEED A RELIABLE SKILLED AND LEGAL WORKFORCE. 10:23:44 TODAY FARMERS ARE CHOOSING BETWEEN A RELIABLE SKILLED AND 10:23:47 ILLEGAL WORKFORCE OR A BUREAUCRATIC UNRELIABLE H2A 10:23:52 PROGRAM. WITHOUT A THOUGHTFUL FEDERAL 10:23:55 LEGISLATIVE SOLUTION, FARMS WILL FAIL. 10:23:58 WE WILL EXPORT U.S. JOBS, WE WILL IMPORT OUR FOOD. 10:24:01 WHO IS DOING THE WORK ON AMERICA'S FARMS? 10:24:05 GOVERNMENT STATISTICS TELL US THAT HIRED FARM WORKERS ARE OVER 10:24:09 80% FOREIGN BORN AND OVER HALF OF THOSE ARE UNAUTHORIZED. 10:24:13 PRIVATE ESTIMATES SAY AS MANY AS 75% ARE UNAUTHORIZED. 10:24:18 ONLY 2% OF AMERICA'S FARM WORKERS ARE COMING IN THROUGH 10:24:21 THE EXISTING H2A PROGRAM. MANY BELIEVE THAT NATIVE BORN 10:24:26 WORKERS WILL HARVEST AMERICA'S SPECIALTY CROPS. 10:24:29 HOWEVER, THE UFW'S TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN IS ONLY THE LATEST IN A 10:24:33 SERIES OF UNSUCCESSFUL EFFORTS IN GOOD AND BAD TIMES. 10:24:38 IN MICHIGAN, IN WASHINGTON, IN CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE TO 10:24:42 RECRUIT AMERICANS INTO FARM JOBS. 10:24:44 THOSE OF US THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO HARVEST OUR CROPS ARE NOT 10:24:49 SURPRISED THAT TAKE OUR JOBS IS ONLY PRODUCING A HANDFUL OF 10:24:51 WORKERS. IT ISN'T ABOUT HOURLY WAGES, 10:24:56 FARM WORKERS CAN EARN MORE PER HOUR PICKING APPLES THAN 10:25:00 FLIPPING BURGERS OR STOCKING SHELVES IN A BIG BOX STORE. 10:25:03 THE AVERAGE PICKER ON MY FARM EARNS $93 FOR A NINE-HOUR DAY. 10:25:08 THE BETTER ONES EARN MORE. BUT LIKE SO MANY AGRICULTURAL 10:25:13 JOBS, PICKING APPLES IS HIGHLY SEASONAL. 10:25:16 IT IS OUT IN THE WEATHER. IT IS DEMANDING. 10:25:19 I DO HAVE A PICKING BUCKET FULL OF APPLES HERE I INVITE EVERY 10:25:23 COMMITTEE MEMBER PLEASE COME DOWN, PUT IT ON, UNDERSTAND WHAT 10:25:26 IT'S LIKE TO FILL THAT THING 150 TIMES A DAY. 10:25:30 GO UP AND DOWN A LADDER. MOST IN THIS ROOM WOULD PROBABLY 10:25:35 ARGUE THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN. 10:25:38 SOME GROWERS ARE TRYING TO USE THE H2A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM BUT 10:25:43 PHASE HUGE OBSTACLES AND UNCERTAINTY. 10:25:45 JUST LAST MONTH APPLE GROWERS IN THE NORTHEAST HAD A NEAR 10:25:49 DISASTER WHEN DECISIONS BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE U.S. 10:25:51 CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES PUT APPLICATIONS OF 10:25:54 HUNDREDS OF JAMAICAN WORKERS IN JEOPARDY JUST DAYS BEFORE THE 10:25:57 GROWER NEEDED THEM TO START HARVEST. 10:26:00 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS INTERVENED AND THE WORKERS ARRIVED AT THE 10:26:03 LAST MOMENT. A FEW MORE DAYS OF INACTION 10:26:05 COULD HAVE MEANT LOSSES ESTIMATED AT $95 MILLION FOR THE 10:26:10 AFFECTED GROWERS. FROM A USER STANDPOINT, THE H2A 10:26:13 PROGRAM IS A MESS. THE CHOICE BETWEEN USING THE 10:26:17 DYSFUNCTIONAL H2A PROGRAM OR HIRING WORKERS WHOSE DOCUMENTS 10:26:22 LOOK GOOD BUT MAY NOT BE IS UNTENABLE. 10:26:26 IN THE U.S. WE HAVE A SHORT WINDOW TO GET 200 MILLION 10:26:30 BUSHELS OF APPLES OFF THE TREE. AS THEY RIPEN THERE IS A 10:26:33 FIVE-DAY WINDOW TO PICK THEM AT THE PROPER MATURITY. 10:26:36 DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF AND STRAINS ALLOW US TO MANAGE THE 10:26:40 HARVEST'S TIMING OVER THE COURSE OF EIGHT TO TEN WEEKS. 10:26:43 A DELAY IN THE ARRIVAL OF WORKERS HAS A DOMINO EFFECT THAT 10:26:46 LEADS TO OVERRIPE FRUIT, FRUIT ON THE GROUND AND FINANCIAL 10:26:49 LOSS. WHAT IS MOST WORRISOME TO ME AS 10:26:53 A GROWER IS THE REALITY THAT WE COULD LOSE A LARGE PORTION OR 10:26:56 EVEN A WHOLE CROP IF WILLING AND ABLE PICKERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. 10:27:01 AT HARVEST TIME ALL BUT THE PICKING COSTS HAVE BEEN 10:27:04 INVESTED. OUR LINES OF CREDIT ARE FULLY 10:27:07 UTILIZED. WE HAVE A LEVERAGED INVESTMENT 10:27:09 THAT MUST BE CONVERTED TO CASH. IF WE LOSE APPLES TO THE GROUND 10:27:13 DUE TO A LACK OF PICKERS WE COULD EASILY BE FORCED TO 10:27:17 LIQUIDATE PART OF THE FARM TO PAY OUR LENDERS. 10:27:19 THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME QUICKLY AND WITHOUT WARNING ONE YEAR IS 10:27:23 ALL IT WILL TAKE. THE THREAT OF LOSING FARMS AND 10:27:27 ALL THE JOBS DEPENDENT UPON THEM IS REAL AND WORSENING IN THE 10:27:30 FACE OF CONGRESSIONAL INACTION. AT LEAST 80,000 ACRES OF 10:27:35 HIGH-VALUE VEGETABLE PRODUCTION LEFT ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA FOR 10:27:38 MEXICO. 77% OF TEXAS VEGETABLE PRODUCERS 10:27:42 REPORT SCALING BACK DUE TO LABOR SHORTFALLS. 10:27:45 FLORIDA TOMATOES AND ORANGES ARE MOVING TO MEXICO AND BRAZIL. 10:27:49 CHINA HAS REQUESTED ACCESS TO OUR MARKET FOR FRESH APPLES AND 10:27:53 THEY ALREADY PRODUCE OVER ONE-HALF THE WORLD'S APPLES. 10:27:56 IF THE U.S. APPLE INDUSTRY IS STARVED FOR LABOR, THE CHINESE 10:27:59 ARE READY TO STEP IN AND SUPPLY OUR APPLES. 10:28:03 IN THE FACE OF A CRISIS RETRIEVING LOST PRODUCTION WILL 10:28:06 NOT HAPPEN QUICKLY. SPECIALTY CROP PRODUCTION IS 10:28:11 EXTREMELY RISKY. AVERAGE PROFITABILITY DOESN'T 10:28:13 REALLY GIVE A PROPER RETURN GIVEN THE RISK THAT WE TAKE. 10:28:16 FOR MOST OF US, THE REASONS WE STAY IN IT ARE NOT ECONOMICAL, A 10:28:20 MAIN LIFE GOAL FOR ME IS TO PROVIDE JOBS FOR AS MANY PEOPLE 10:28:24 AS POSSIBLE. I AM COMPELLED TO BE ABLE TO 10:28:26 PASS ON OUR FARM TO SOMEONE WHO WILL TAKE IT. 10:28:31 LABOR SHORTAGES ARE NOT GOING TO FIND ME A WILLING BUYER. 10:28:35 IT'S A SERIOUS ECONOMIC PROBLEM THAT CONGRESS HAS NOT ADDRESSED 10:28:39 FOR FAR TOO LONG. NOW IS THE TIME. 10:28:43 I'M EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF AG JOBS LEGISLATION. 10:28:47 COMPREHENSIVE REFORM MAY BE TOO POLITICALLY CHARGED RIGHT NOW. 10:28:51 PLEASE FOCUS ON AG JOBS AND GET IT PASSED. 10:28:54 I THINK THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRED. 10:28:57 WE TURN NOW TO MR. RODRIGUEZ. GOOD MORNING. 10:29:03 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHAIR WOMAN LOFGREN AND CHAIRMAN 10:29:09 CONYERS, RANKING MEMBER KING AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE 10:29:11 FOR HOLDING THE HEARING. MY NAME IS ARTURO RODRIGUEZ 10:29:15 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM WORKERS AND JOINING ME TODAY ARE 10:29:19 FIVE FARM WORKS OF WORKERS. I'D LIKE THEM TO STAND UP. 10:29:25 ISABELLE ROJAS STARTED AT 12. RACHEL LUNA STARTED AT 16. 10:29:32 46 YEARS IN THE FIELD. 33 YEARS WORKING IN THE FIELDS, 10:29:38 TERESA SORIANO, 14, STARTED AT 14 WORKING 43 YEARS IN THE OLD. 10:29:43 AIL PARADE DAE ZAMORA, STARTED WORKING AND HAS 34 YEARS WORKING 10:29:48 IN THE FEEL. VERY POWDER TO BE WITH ALL OF 10:29:50 THEM HERE TODAY. TODAY ACROSS AMERICA THE HARVEST 10:29:54 SEASON IS REACHING ITS PEAK. MORE THAN A MILLION MEN, WOMEN 10:29:58 AND CHILDREN ARE TOLLING IN OUR NATION'S FIELDS PRODUCING OUR 10:30:01 FRUITS AND VEGETABLES AND CARING FOR OUR LIVESTOCK. 10:30:05 MOST AMERICANS HAVE THE LUXURY TO OPERATE IN IGNORANCE OR 10:30:09 DENIAL ABOUT HOW THE FOOD WE EAT GETS ON OUR TABLES. 10:30:13 AGRICULTURE IN THE UNITED STATES IS DEPENDENT ON HARD-WORKING 10:30:17 DEDICATED TAX-PAYING IMMIGRANT WORKFORCE. 10:30:21 THREE-QUARTERS OF ALL FARM WORKERS ARE BORN OUTSIDE THE 10:30:23 COUNTRY TODAY. THESE ARE THE FACTS. 10:30:26 AMERICA NEEDS WORKERS, NEEDS THESE WORKERS. 10:30:29 EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS DIRECTLY SUSTAINED BY THEIR 10:30:33 LABORS EVERY DAY. IF YOU HAD A GLASS OF FLORIDA 10:30:36 ORANGE JUICE WITH YOUR BREAKFAST THIS MORNING, IT IS ALMOST 10:30:39 CERTAIN THE ORANGES THAT WENT INTO THAT JUICE WERE PICKED BY 10:30:43 UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS. IF YOU HAD MILK, ON YOUR CEREAL, 10:30:48 IT IS LIKELY THE WORKERS WHO MILKED THE COWS DIDN'T HAVE THE 10:30:51 RIGHT PAPERS. WITH WE SIT DOWN EVERY DAY TO 10:30:53 GIVE THANKS FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS MOST OF THE FOOD ON 10:30:55 YOUR TABLE HAS BEEN HARVESTED AND CARED FOR BY UNAUTHORIZED 10:30:58 WORKERS. THERE'S ANOTHER INDISPUTABLE 10:31:02 FACT. THE LIFE OF A U.S. FARM WORKER 10:31:06 IN 2010 IS NOT AN EASY ONE. MOST FARM WORKERS LIVE IN 10:31:09 POVERTY, ENDURE POOR WORKING CONDITIONS AND RECEIVE NO 10:31:12 GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. U 10:31:14 UNDOCUMENTED FARM WORKERS TAKE JOBS OTHER AMERICANS WON'T DO 10:31:18 FOR PAY OTHER AMERICANS WON'T -- OTHER AMERICAN WORKERS WON'T 10:31:22 ACCEPT AND UNDER CONDITIONS OTHER AMERICANS WON'T TOLERATE. 10:31:26 WHO IS TO BLAME? IT IS NOT THE FARM WORKERS' 10:31:29 FAULT THAT 15 STATES DO NOT EVEN PROVIDE THE BASIC PROTECTION OF 10:31:34 WORKERS' COMPENSATION IF THEY ARE INJURED AT WORK. 10:31:36 IT'S NOT THE FARM WORKER'S FAULT THAT MORE THAN 70 YEARS AFTER 10:31:40 CONGRESS PASSED THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT FARM WORKERS 10:31:44 STILL DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO ORGANIZE. 10:31:46 IT IS NOT THE FARM WORKERS TAUGHT THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR THEY 10:31:51 VIOLATE THE CONTRACTS WITH IMPUNITY WHILE THE GROWERS 10:31:55 EMPLOY THE CONTRACTORS AVOID THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE 10:31:58 WORKERS. OUR SOCIETY PLACES ALL THE RISKS 10:32:02 AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEASONAL INDUSTRY FEATURING 10:32:05 MILLIONS OF SHORT-TERM JOBS ON THE BACKS OF THE WORKERS. 10:32:10 FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS A FREEZE AS OCCURRED MANY TIMES 10:32:14 RECENTLY IN FLORIDA, THOUSANDS OF WORKERS WERE LEFT WITHOUT 10:32:17 WORK. THERE'S NO UNEMPLOYMENT 10:32:19 ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE WORKERS DURING THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD. 10:32:23 FURTHERMORE, IF A WORKER IS INJURED, OFTENTIMES THERE IS NO 10:32:26 REAL RECOURSE. THERE IS NO ACCESS TO WORKER 10:32:27 COMPENSATION. SO WE THE UNITED FARM WORKERS 10:32:33 INITIATED THE TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN AND DID INVITE CITIZENS 10:32:37 AND LEGAL RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR JOBS AND SUPPLY OUR WORKPLACE 10:32:44 CAFETERIAS INCLUDING THOSE IN OUR NATION'S CAPITAL WITH THE 10:32:46 FOOD THAT FUELS THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION. 10:32:49 SINCE JUNE THE 24th WE RECEIVED 8,600 INQUIRIES THROUGH OUR 10:32:55 WEBSITE TAKE OUR JOBS.ORG. BUT ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE HAVE 10:33:00 ACCEPTED THOSE JOBS ON A FULL TIME BASIS AND CONTINUING TO 10:33:03 WORK IN AGRICULTURE. INDEED, IF WE DEPORTED ALL 10:33:09 UNDOCUMENTED FARM WORKERS HERE NOW, THE GOVERNMENT ESTIMATES 10:33:12 U.S. AGRICULTURE WOULD NEED TO HIRE AT LEAST 1 MILLION CITIZENS 10:33:15 OR LEGAL RESIDENTS TO REPLACE THE IMMIGRANT LABORS. 10:33:20 A MASS DEPORTATION OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS WOULD CAUSE 10:33:23 THE COLLAPSE OF THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY AS WE KNOW IT AND WE 10:33:27 FEEL THAT WOULD HAVE A SEVERE IMPACT ON MAINTAINING A VERY 10:33:30 MUCH NEEDED INDUSTRY IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY AS WELL AS 10:33:34 PROVIDING AMERICAN CONSUMERS WITH SAFE FOOD. 10:33:38 WE CONTINUE OUR WORK. WE URGE THAT AG JOBS BE PASSED 10:33:44 HERE BY THE CONGRESS, THAT YOU SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THAT AND 10:33:47 GIVING LEGAL STATUS TO THOSE FARM WORKERS THAT ARE HERE 10:33:50 TODAY. THE GROWERS, THE EMPLOYERS, THE 10:33:53 AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY IS ASKING FOR A SECURE FARM LABOR FORCE. 10:33:56 WE THINK IT'S THE OBLIGATION OF THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THIS 10:34:01 CONGRESS TO TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY ON THAT ISSUE. 10:34:04 NOW IS THE TIME FOR CONGRESS TO ACKNOWLEDGE ITS ROLE IN CREATING 10:34:08 WHAT EXISTS TODAY AS OUR CURRENT FARM LABOR PRICES AND TO OFFER A 10:34:12 REAL AND LASTING SOLUTION. IT IS TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE 10:34:16 DIGNITY OF THE CURRENT FARM LABOR WORKFORCE AND ENSURE THE 10:34:20 SAFETY AND ABUNDANCE OF AMERICA'S FOOD SUPPLY BY PASSING 10:34:25 THE AG JOBS BILL. A FAILURE TO DO SO WOULD BE BOTH 10:34:27 A HUMAN AND ECONOMIC TRAGEDY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:34:32 NOW WE WILL TURN TO -- MADAM SPEAKER -- CHAIRMAN, 10:34:37 COULD I JUST SAY THAT AFTER LISTENING TO DR. CAROL SWAIN, I 10:34:43 WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS REQUEST THAT I HAD MADE TO STEPHEN 10:34:47 COLBERT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 10:34:49 AND WE WILL TURN NOW TO MR. COLBERT FOR HIS FIVE MINUTES OF 10:34:57 TESTIMONY. GOOD MORNING. STEPHEN COLBERT: 10:34:59 MY NAME IS STEPHEN COLBERT AND I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. 10:35:04 IT IS AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TODAY. 10:35:06 CONGRESSWOMAN LOFGREN ASKED ME TO SHARE MY VAST EXPERIENCE 10:35:09 SPENDING ONE DAY AS A MIGRANT FARM WORKER. 10:35:12 I AM HAPPY TO USE MY CELEBRITY TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS 10:35:15 IMPORTANT COMPLICATED ISSUE AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT MY STAR 10:35:18 POWER CAN BUMP THIS HEARING ALL THE WAY UP TO C-SPAN 1. 10:35:24 AS WE'VE HEARD THIS MORNING, AMERICA'S FARMS ARE PRESENTLY 10:35:27 FAR TOO DEPENDENT ON IMMIGRANT LABOR TO PICK OUR FRUITS AND 10:35:32 V VEGETABLES. 10:35:33 NOW THE OBVIOUS ANSWER IS FOR ALL OF US TO STOP EATING FRUITS 10:35:35 AND VEGETABLES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT 10:35:39 OBESITY STATISTICS, YOU'LL SEE THAT MANY AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY 10:35:41 STARTED. UNFORTUNATELY, MY GRASS TREE 10:35:46 ENTER ROLL GIST HAS INFORMED ME IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT THEY 10:35:49 ARE A NECESSARY SOURCE OF ROUGHAGE AS EVIDENCED I WILL 10:35:53 LIKE TO SUBMIT A VIDEO OF MY COLON NO CO-PI INTO THE RECORD. 10:35:58 WE KNOW THERE IS A LONG TRADITION OF GREAT NATIONS 10:36:02 IMPORTING FOREIGN WORKERS TO DO THEIR FARM WORK. 10:36:04 AFTER ALL, IT WAS THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES WHO BUILT THE FIRST 10:36:08 FOOD PYRAMIDS BUT THIS IS AMERICA. 10:36:10 I DON'T WANT A TOMATO PICKED BY A MEXICAN. 10:36:13 I WANT IT PICKED BY AN AMERICAN. THEN SLICED BY GUATEMALAN AND 10:36:18 SERVED BY A VENEZUELAN IN A SPA WHERE A CHILEAN GIVES ME A 10:36:22 BRAZILIAN. BECAUSE MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER DID 10:36:26 NOT TRAVEL ACROSS 4,000 MILES OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO SEE THIS 10:36:30 COUNTRY OVERRUN BY IMMIGRANTS. HE DID IT BECAUSE HE KILLED A 10:36:33 MAN BACK IN IRELAND. THAT'S THE RUMOR. 10:36:37 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT STRICKEN 10:36:40 FROM THE RECORD SO WE DO NOT WANT IMMIGRANTS DOING THIS LABOR 10:36:43 AND I AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN KING, WE MUST SECURE OUR 10:36:47 BORDERS. OF COURSE, I'M SURE ARTURO 10:36:49 RODRIGUEZ IS SAYING WHO THEN WOULD PICK OUR CROPS, STEPHEN? 10:36:54 FIRST OF ALL, DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHEN I'M TALKING. 10:36:56 THAT'S RUDE. SECOND, I REJECT THIS IDEA THAT 10:36:59 FARM WORK IS AMONG THE SEMI MYTHICAL JOBS THAT AMERICANS 10:37:02 WON'T DO. REALLY? 10:37:05 NO AMERICANS? I DID. 10:37:08 AS PART OF MY ONGOING SERIES "STEPHEN COLBERT'S FALLBACK 10:37:12 POSITION WHERE I TRY OTHER JOBS AND REALIZE THAT MINE IS WAY 10:37:16 BETTER. I PARTICIPATED IN THE UFW'S TAKE 10:37:20 OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN. ONE OF ONLY 16 PEOPLE IN AMERICA 10:37:23 TO TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE THOUGH THAT NUMBER MAY INCREASE IN THE 10:37:26 NEAR FUTURE AS I UNDERSTAND MANY DEMOCRATS PAY BE LOOKING FOR 10:37:28 WORK COME NOVEMBER. NOW, I'LL ADMIT, I STARTED MY 10:37:35 WORKDAY WITH PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF MIGRANT LABOR. 10:37:38 BUT AFTER WORKING WITH THESE MEN AND WOMEN, PICKING BEANS, 10:37:42 PACKING CORN, FOR HOURS ON END SIDE BY SIDE IN THE UNFORGIVING 10:37:47 SUN, I HAVE TO SAY AND I DO MEAN THIS SINCERELY, PLEASE DON'T 10:37:51 MAKE ME DO THIS AGAIN! IT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD. 10:37:57 FOR ONE THING WHEN YOU'RE PICKING BEANS YOU HAVE TO SPEND 10:37:59 ALL DAY BENDING OVER. IT TURNS OUT AND I DID NOT KNOW 10:38:02 THIS, MOST SOIL IS AT GROUND LEVEL. 10:38:05 IF WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE MOON WHY CAN'T WE MAKE THE EARTH 10:38:09 WAIST HIGH. COME ON. 10:38:10 WHERE IS THE FUNDING? THIS BRIEF EXPERIENCE GAVE ME 10:38:15 SOME SMALL UNDERSTANDING OF WHY SO FEW AMERICANS ARE CLAMORING 10:38:18 TO BEGIN AN EXCITING CAREER AS SEASONAL MIGRANT FIELD WORKER. 10:38:22 SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? I'M A FREE MARKET GUY. 10:38:26 NORMALLY I WOULD LEAVE THIS TO THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET 10:38:29 BUT THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET HAS ALREADY MOVED OVER 10:38:33 84,000 ACRES OF PRODUCTION AND OVER 22,000 FARM JOBS TO MEXICO 10:38:37 AND SHUT DOWN OVER A MILLION ACRES OF U.S. FARM LAND DUE TO 10:38:41 LACK OF AVAILABLE LABOR BECAUSE APPARENTLY EVEN THE INVISIBLE 10:38:44 HAND DOESN'T WANT TO PICK BEANS. NOW I'M NOT A FAN OF THE 10:38:48 GOVERNMENT DOING ANYTHING. BUT I'VE GOT TO ASK WHY ISN'T 10:38:51 THE GOVERNMENT DOING ANYTHING? MAYBE THIS AG JOBS BILL WOULD 10:38:55 HELP. I DON'T KNOW. 10:38:56 LIKE MOST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS I HAVEN'T READ IT. 10:39:00 BUT MAYBE WE COULD OFFER MORE VISAS TO THE IMMIGRANTS WHO 10:39:03 LET'S FACE IT MAYBE WE COULD OFFER MORE VISAS TO THE 10:39:07 IMMIGRANTS WHO LET'S FACE IT WILL PROBABLY BE DOING THESE 10:39:10 JOBS ANY WAY AND THIS IMPROVED LEGAL STATUS MIGHT ALLOW 10:39:13 RECOURSE IF THEY'RE ABUSED AND JUST STANDS TO REASON TO ME THAT 10:39:16 IF YOU ARE YOUR CO-WORKER CAN'T BE EXPLOITED YOU'RE LESS LIKELY 10:39:20 TO BE EXPLOITED YOURSELF AND THAT ITSELF MIGHT IMPROVE PAY 10:39:22 AND WORKING CONDITIONS ON THESE FARMS AND EVENTUALLY AMERICANS 10:39:26 MAY CONSIDER TAKING THESE JOBS AGAIN. 10:39:29 OR MAYBE THAT'S CRAZY. MAYBE THE EASIER ANSWER IS JUST 10:39:32 TO HAVE SCIENTISTS DEVELOP VEGETABLES THAT PICK THEMSELVES. 10:39:36 THE GENETIC ENGINEERS OVER AT FRUIT OF THE LOOM HAVE MADE 10:39:39 GREAT STRIDES IN HUMAN FRUIT HYBRIDS. 10:39:42 THE POINT IS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING 10:39:44 BACK OUT THERE. AT THIS POINT I BREAK INTO A 10:39:47 COLD SWEAT AT THE SITE OF A SALAD BAR. 10:39:49 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AGAIN, IT IS AN HONOR, A 10:39:53 PRIVILEGE AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HERE. 10:39:55 I TRUST THAT FOLLOWING MY TESTIMONY, BOTH SIDES WILL WORK 10:40:00 TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN 10:40:04 PEOPLE AS YOU ALWAYS DO. I'M NOW PREPARED TO TAKE YOUR 10:40:09 QUESTIONS AND/OR POSE FOR PICTURES WITH YOUR 10:40:12 GRANDCHILDREN. I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME, 10:40:14 USA, NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:40:18 THANKS TO ALL OF THE WITNESSES FOR THEIR TESTIMONY. 10:40:23 WE WILL NOW BEGIN QUESTIONS OF ANY OF OUR WITNESSES AND WE WILL 10:40:28 BEGIN IF MR. CONYERS IS READY AT THIS TIME, I WILL RECOGNIZE 10:40:34 MR. CONYERS FOR HIS QUESTIONS FOR FIVE MINUTES. 10:40:36 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE 10:40:42 TESTIMONY, ALL THE WITNESSES. I HAVE TO OBSERVE THAT MR. 10:40:50 COLBERT SUBMITTED STATEMENT WAS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT FROM THE 10:40:53 ONE HE PRESENTED BUT THAT'S A SMALL DETAIL. 10:41:02 DR. CAROL SWAIN, YOU'VE WRITTEN AND STUDIED ABOUT THIS SUBJECT 10:41:05 QUITE A BIT AND WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING IS THAT 10:41:14 YOU -- YOU SPOKE OF A CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH A 10:41:18 GROWER WHO HAD A PROGRAM TO PROVIDE JOBS TO 10:41:25 AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND -- BUT IN YOUR WRITTEN TESTIMONY YOU STATE 10:41:30 THAT HE CLOSED THE PROGRAM BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET FEDERAL 10:41:34 OR STATE AGENCIES TO INVEST MONEY. 10:41:39 NOW, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS THAT THE GROWER COULDN'T MAKE 10:41:44 IT PROFITABLE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT, RIGHT? 10:41:48 HE INVESTED $250,000 OF HIS OWN MONEY AND HE HAS WORKED WITH 10:41:55 BLANCHE LINCOLN AND OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ON THESE 10:41:57 AGRICULTURAL ISSUES. HE'S VERY MUCH -- THIS IS A 10:42:01 WHITE -- BUT HE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH -- 10:42:04 HE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN ISSUES AFFECTING PEOPLE THAT ARE 10:42:08 DISADVANTAGED. I KNOW HE'S A GOOD GUY BUT HE 10:42:11 COULDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY, RIGHT. 10:42:12 HE COULD NOT GET -- IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG. 10:42:16 LOCAL OR FEDERAL OFFICIALS TO INVEST IN A PROGRAM THAT WAS 10:42:20 PROVIDING EMPLOYMENT FOR AMERICANS. 10:42:22 HE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY, RIGHT? 10:42:25 I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. 10:42:27 WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE POINT. 10:42:29 IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY -- IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG? 10:42:33 HE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT OUT OF 10:42:37 BUSINESS EVEN THOUGH HE INVESTED A LOT OF HIS MONEY, HE WAS A 10:42:40 GOOD GUY. HE DIDN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS. 10:42:42 CURRY INDUSTRIES IS A VERY WELL-KNOWN PROFITABLE COMPANY. 10:42:45 HE DIDN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS. HE A NASHVILLE BUSINESSMAN. 10:42:48 BUT HE CLOSED THE PROGRAM. HE CLOSED PROGRAM. 10:42:51 WHY -- IN ARKANSAS. 10:42:53 WHY DID HE CLOSE IT. BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GET 10:42:55 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS TO BE -- TO 10:42:59 BE INTERESTED IN THE PLIGHT OF DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS AND SO 10:43:05 HE SPENDS HIS ENERGIES IN OTHER PLACES. 10:43:07 DO YOU REALLY KNOW THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ON 10:43:11 THIS COMMITTEE AND NOT TOO MANY IN THE CONGRESS -- 10:43:15 MR. CONYERS, READ MY BOOK EXSPECIALLY ON THE BLACK CAUCUS 10:43:18 AND HOW THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTING AFRICAN-AMERICAN INTERESTS ON 10:43:22 THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. WELL, I'M GLAD MAXINE WATERS 10:43:29 ISN'T HERE TODAY. BOY, OH, BOY. 10:43:37 WELL, THE POINT THAT REALLY THIS DISCUSSION COMES DOWN TO IS THAT 10:43:45 DAN LUNGREN, MY DEAR FRIEND FROM CALIFORNIA, FORMER ATTORNEY 10:43:50 GENERAL, HE DOESN'T LIKE THE BERMAN BILL, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE 10:43:55 A BILL. STEVE KING AND I ARE FORMING A 10:43:59 COMMITTEE AFTERWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT -- 10:44:01 I DO HAVE A BILL. OH, YOU DO HAVE A BILL. 10:44:04 OH, THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE NUMBER? 10:44:11 WELL, WE'LL FIND IT. IF YOU SAY YOU HAVE ONE, YOUR 10:44:16 WORD IS YOUR BOND. BUT STEVE KING AND I ARE FORMING 10:44:21 A COMMITTEE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE AND DR. SWAIN, YOU'RE FROM 10:44:28 VANDERBILT. YOU MUST KNOW THAT ONLY 4% OF 10:44:33 THE PEOPLE DOING THIS KIND OF STOOP LABOR ARE 10:44:39 AFRICAN-AMERICANS, RIGHT? IF AMERICANS -- 10:44:43 RIGHT OR WRONG. IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT 10:44:45 PAYING THAT MUCH. THE AMERICAN WORKERS ARE 10:44:48 BEING -- BUT. 10:44:50 -- SURPLUS OF CHEAP LABOR. I PRESUME YOU'RE SAYING -- 10:44:54 TO PAYING A DECENT WAGE TO AMERICAN WORKERS. 10:44:56 I PRESUME YOU'RE SAYING YES. I'M NOT IN A COURT OF LAW SO 10:45:00 I DON'T HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO. OH, OKAY. 10:45:03 AND YOU'RE NOT UNDER OATH EITHER. 10:45:09 NO, WE DON'T WANT HER -- NO. WELL -- 10:45:13 BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LOOK AT MR. KERR'S 10:45:16 SUGGESTIONS. HE'S BEEN A GROWER PROBABLY FOR 10:45:18 30 OR 0 YEARS AND HE HAS AN INDUSTRY AND MADE SOME 10:45:21 SUGGESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT -- WELL, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT 10:45:25 MR. RODRIGUEZ'S SUGGESTIONS? I'VE READ EVERYONE'S 10:45:30 TESTIMONY. WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF 10:45:32 HIS? HE'S REPRESENTING ALL THOSE FINE 10:45:35 PEOPLE THAT HAVE -- WITH THE RED SHIRTS THAT ARE SITTING IN BACK 10:45:39 OF YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HIS -- 10:45:42 I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER THAN TO SEE FARM WORKERS WELL 10:45:46 PAID AND HAVE DECENT WORKING CONDITIONS. 10:45:48 OF COURSE NOT. OF COURSE, YOU DO, BUT WHAT DO 10:45:51 YOU THINK OF RODRIGUEZ'S POSITION? 10:45:55 ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH IT? WELL, AS LONG AS THERE ARE 10:46:00 UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES RIGHT NOW FOR AUGUST 7.9% UNEMPLOYMENT IN 10:46:04 THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR, I CAN'T AGREE THAT THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF 10:46:09 WORKERS. I DO BELIEVE THAT -- 10:46:11 OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE, MADAM CHAIR, 10:46:14 BUT COULD I INVITE YOU TO JOIN ME AND MR. KING ON THIS 10:46:18 COMMITTEE? I WOULD LOVE TO WORK ON THESE 10:46:21 IMMIGRANT ISSUES -- WOULD YOU JOIN OUR COMMITTEE 10:46:23 AFTER THE HEARING. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF CONGRESS 10:46:25 BUT I REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 10:46:27 THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME. I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH 10:46:29 YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:46:31 THE RANKING MEMBER HAS ASKED US TO GO NEXT TO MR. SMITH WHO 10:46:35 WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. 10:46:37 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. DR. SWAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 10:46:40 EXCELLENT TESTIMONY AND THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO ANSWER ALL THE 10:46:43 QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED. 10:46:44 I HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS AND THE FIRST IS THIS, 10:46:48 WHY AREN'T THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEING BETTER 10:46:53 REPRESENTED? WELL, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE 10:46:54 THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT ORGANIZED IN LOBBIES AND MOST OF 10:46:58 THEM ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND SO THEY'RE NOT IN THE 10:47:02 PRESSURE GROUPS THAT SEEM TO HAVE THE MOST INFLUENCE OVER 10:47:05 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. OKAY. 10:47:08 AND YOU MENTIONED OR REFERRED IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO THE DANGER OF 10:47:12 SORT OF WHAT WE MIGHT CALL CHAIN GUEST WORKERS. 10:47:16 AND IF THEY COME IN AND ARE ALLOWED TO STAY, THEY ARE GOING 10:47:20 TO PROBABLY TAKE ANOTHER JOB AT A HIGHER PAY AS SOON AS THEY 10:47:23 CAN. WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF 10:47:25 THAT? WELL, I MEAN IT'S PRETTY 10:47:28 CLEAR THAT IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, THEY 10:47:32 WORK IN HOTELS, THEY WORK IN RESTAURANTS, THEY DO YARD WORK, 10:47:36 THEY DO THAT. THERE IS A DISPLACEMENT OF 10:47:39 AMERICAN WORKERS AND WHENEVER THERE'S A CRACKDOWN, ALL OF 10:47:42 THOSE JOBS THAT WE'RE TOLD THAT AMERICANS WILL NOT TAKE, YOU SEE 10:47:46 THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, HUNDREDS OF THEM LINING UP TO TAKE THOSE 10:47:49 JOBS AND SO THERE ARE EMPLOYERS THAT WOULD PREFER IMMIGRANT 10:47:53 LABOR BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO EXPLOIT THAT LABOR. 10:47:56 OKAY. I THANK YOU, DR. SWAIN. 10:47:59 MR. COLBERT, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF I 10:48:02 COULD. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT I 10:48:04 THINK YOU MADE SOME GOOD POINTS. PARTICULARLY ABOUT DEMOCRATS AND 10:48:09 NOVEMBER AND PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE NEED FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS 10:48:12 TO READ BILLS. I HOPE OUR DEMOCRATIC 10:48:14 CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP WAS LISTENING TO YOU. 10:48:16 IT SO HAPPENS I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE 10:48:21 R REPUBLICANS' PLEDGE TO AMERICANS 10:48:23 BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT REQUIRES THE 10:48:25 LEADERSHIP TO GIVE 72 HOURS OF NOTICE OF ANY BILL THAT WE HAVE 10:48:30 BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. 10:48:32 LET ME GIVE YOU A SECOND OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LITTLE BIT 10:48:34 MORE SERIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DO TAKE THIS SUBJECT SERIOUSLY. 10:48:37 I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU WORKED FOR 10:48:41 ONE DAY IN THE FIELD IN UPSTATE NEW YORK. 10:48:44 HOW MANY OTHER WORKERS WERE THERE WITH YOU THAT DAY? 10:48:48 I DIDN'T TAKE A COUNT. I'M NOT GOOD WITH MATH. 10:48:52 I WOULD SAY 50. HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OUT IN THE 10:48:58 FIELD. A HUNDRED. 10:48:59 ABOUT A HUNDRED. HOW MANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS 10:49:00 WERE ILLEGAL AND HOW MANY WERE LEGAL? 10:49:02 I DIDN'T ASK THEM FOR THEIR PAPERS, THOUGH I HAD A STRONG 10:49:06 URGE TO. WILL YOU ASSUME THAT IF YOU 10:49:10 DON'T KNOW THEY WERE ILLEGAL THERE MIGHT WELL HAVE BEEN LEGAL 10:49:13 WORKERS THERE. I DON'T KNOW. 10:49:14 I HAVE NO IDEA. WELL, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEN 10:49:17 IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT THEY WERE ALL ILLEGAL WORKERS. 10:49:19 MY POINT BEING IF SOME OF THEM WERE LEGAL AND I PRESUME THEY 10:49:23 WERE THAT DOES SHOW THAT AMERICANS ARE WILLING TO DO 10:49:25 THOSE JOBS. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE 10:49:27 WORKERS WERE PAID? I DON'T KNOW EVEN IF THEY 10:49:30 WERE LEGAL I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS. 10:49:32 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT. EVEN IF THEY WERE LEGAL I 10:49:35 DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS. 10:49:37 MY QUESTION IS DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WERE PAID BY THE 10:49:40 HOUR. I DON'T KNOW. 10:49:41 I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB TO 10:49:43 GET PAID SO I CAN'T COMPARE MY SALARY TO ANYONE. 10:49:46 I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO LEAVE. GOSH, WELL, TO ME HOW MUCH 10:49:50 THEY GET PAID IS A PRETTY SERIOUS SUBJECT AND IF THEY FEED 10:49:53 TO GET PAID MORE TO ATTRACT AMERICAN WORKERS WE SHOULD I 10:49:56 THINK DO SO. I KNOW YOU'RE AN EXPERT 10:49:59 COMEDIAN. I KNOW YOU'RE AN EXPERT 10:50:01 ENTERTAINER. I KNOW YOU HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF 10:50:04 HUMOR, BUT WOULD YOU CALL YOURSELF AN EXPERT WITNESS WHEN 10:50:06 IT AN EXPERT WITNESS WHEN IT COMES TO 10:50:09 FARM LABOR ISSUES OR NOT? I BELIEVE I WAS INVITED HERE 10:50:13 TODAY BY THE CONGRESSWOMAN BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE 16 10:50:16 PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE UNITED FARM WORKERS UP ON THE EXPERIENCE OF 10:50:24 HAVING MIGRANT FORM WORK FOR A DAY. 10:50:30 DOES ONE DAY IN THE FIELD MAKE YOU AND EXPERT WITNESS? 10:50:32 I'M SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU. DOES ONE DAY WORKING IN THE 10:50:37 FIELD MAKE YOU AND EXPERT? ONE DAY OF ME STUDYING 10:50:42 ANYTHING MAKES ME AN EXPERT. IS THAT MORE WORK THAN YOU'VE 10:50:45 EVER DONE BEFORE? EXCUSE ME. 10:50:48 IT'S MORE WORK -- IT'S HARDER WORK THAN THIS. 10:50:50 IS IT HARDER WORK THAN THE COMEDY SHOW? 10:50:53 EXCUSE ME? IS IT HARDER WORK THAN THE 10:50:57 COMEDY SHOW. ABSOLUTELY. 10:50:59 YOU DON'T WANT TO RETURN TO IT? 10:51:00 I WILL NEVER -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO WATCH "GREEN ACRES" ANY 10:51:09 MORE. BY THE WAY I ENDORSE YOUR 10:51:12 POLICIES. YOU ASKED ME IF I ENDORSE PUBLIC 10:51:15 POLICY. ALL REPUBLICAN POLICIES WITHOUT 10:51:17 QUESTION. INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT 10:51:18 THAT MEMBERS HAVE 72 HOURS TO READ A BILL BEFORE WE VOTE ON 10:51:23 IT? ABSOLUTELY. 10:51:24 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDORSEMENT TO PLEDGE FOR 10:51:29 AMERICA. I YIELD BACK. 10:51:32 >THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. I TURN TO THE GENTLELADY FROM 10:51:41 TEXAS, MISS SHEILA JACKSON. >THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 10:51:47 CHAIR. THIS IS CRUCIAL HEARING BECAUSE 10:51:51 I THINK IT INVOLVES THE C 10:52:01 CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES. I WANT TO SAY DR. SWAIN, I DON'T 10:52:05 DISAGREE WITH YOU THIS NATION SHOULDN'T TURN A BLIND EYE TO 10:52:08 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN FACT WE SHOULD ENGAGE AND FRANKLY FOR 10:52:15 ALMOST A DECADE. IN MY TENURE IN THIS CONGRESS WE 10:52:19 HAVE TRIED TO FAIRLY ENGAGING THE QUESTION OF ILLEGAL 10:52:25 IMMIGRATION BY PUTTING FORWARD A PLAN OF COMPREHENSIVE 10:52:30 IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT ADDRESSES THE QUESTION OF A 10:52:35 PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, OF ACCESS TO CITIZENSHIP. 10:52:40 LAMAR SMITH AND I OVER THE YEARS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE 10:52:44 OF PROVIDING A WIDESPREAD VIEW OF AMERICANS AND CREATING JOBS 10:52:50 AND ENSURING THAT THERE'S AN INVESTMENT IN THE SKILLS OF 10:52:55 AMERICANS AND SO WE PROBABLY DON'T DISAGREE ON THAT. 10:52:59 WE FIND OURSELVES, HOWEVER, IN THE POLITICAL CLIMATE WHERE IF 10:53:07 RIGHT WAS RIGHT AND TRUTH WAS TRUTH, WE COULD NOT FIND ON THIS 10:53:14 COMMITTEE A BIPARTISAN PATHWAY TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY DEAL 10:53:18 WITH FIXING THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. 10:53:21 DOING SOME OF THE THING YOU SAID. 10:53:25 WHICH MEANS THAT WE COULD, IN FACT, MEMBERS OF THIS SIDE OF 10:53:32 THE AISLE TAKE SOME OF THOSE FEES AND INVEST IN TRAINING. 10:53:35 WE DID THAT. TRAINING NURSES, TRAINING FARM 10:53:40 WORKERS, TRAINING OTHERS AS YOU HAVE DECLARED PEOPLE HERE IN THE 10:53:42 UNITED STATES. SO, WE WISH WE COULD TAKE UP 10:53:47 YOUR CHALLENGE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 10:53:50 BUT WE FIND OURSELVES IN A DILEMMA WHERE WE CAN'T GET 10:54:00 ANYONE THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO LOOK REASONABLY 10:54:04 AT THE CRISIS THAT WE FACE. TO MR. COLBERT, LET ME SAY TO 10:54:09 YOU, YOUR TESTIMONY IS SUBMITTED AND SOMETHING I AGREE WITH. 10:54:12 THEY SAY YOU TRULY KNOW A MAN AFTER YOU WALKED A MILE IN HIS 10:54:18 SHOES AND WHILE I AM NOWHERE NEAR THE HARDSHIP OF THESE 10:54:25 IMMIGRANTS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A GLIMMER OF AN INSIGHT. 10:54:31 MR. RODRIGUEZ HOW DO YOU REBUT THE COMMENT THAT MR. SWAIN MADE 10:54:35 THAT YOUR EFFORT WAS A BOGUS EFFORT TO TRY TO FIND AMERICAN 10:54:39 WORKERS TO WORK IN THE FARMS OF AMERICA? 10:54:43 LET ME JUST FIRST RESPOND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 10:54:48 CONGRESSWOMAN LEE. WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND 10:54:52 CONCEPT SITTING DOWN WITH SOME OF THE FARM WORKERS WE 10:54:56 INTRODUCED TO YOU. HOW DO WE SENSITIZE AND INFORM 10:55:04 THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT EVERYONE HOPEFULLY CAN BETTER 10:55:06 UNDERSTAND. AS A RESULT OF THAT THE WORKERS 10:55:08 CAME UP WITH A SUGGESTION, LET'S INVITE LEGAL CITIZENS, LET'S 10:55:12 INVITE POLITICIAN, LET'S INVITE POLICYMAKERS TO COME AND WORK IN 10:55:17 THE FIELD TO UNDERSTAND FARM WORKERS ARE NOT HERE AND 10:55:20 IMMIGRANT WORKERS ARE NOT HERE TO TAKE AWAY AMERICAN JOBS. 10:55:23 AS A RESULT OF THAT, AFTER DISCUSSION, WE CAME UP WITH THE 10:55:26 IDEA OF TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN, AND CONSEQUENTLY WE RECEIVED A 10:55:32 VERY INTERESTING RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE UPON DOING THAT. 10:55:36 AND WHEN MR. COLBERT DECIDED TO ALSO INVITE US TO COME ON THE 10:55:41 SHOW AND TALK ABOUT THAT IT FURTHER GAVE MORE VISIBILITY TO 10:55:45 THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. BUT THE QUESTION IS, SHE SAID 10:55:50 THAT YOU WERE NOT SERIOUS. WE'RE VERY SERIOUS. 10:55:53 WE WANT TO PROVE A POINT. REFUTE QUICKLY YOU WERE NOT 10:55:56 SERIOUS. YOU WORK HARD AND CONTINUE TO 10:55:58 WORK HARD. IS THE PROGRAM STILL PLACE? 10:56:01 WE WORK VERY HARD. WE HAVE PEOPLE DEDICATED EVERY 10:56:04 DAY TO LISTENING TO INDIVIDUALS THAT CALL INTO US, CHECKING OUR 10:56:09 WEBSITES, TRYING TO ASSIST -- SO YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT IT 10:56:13 AND WE -- MR. COLBERT WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE OF 10:56:19 IMMIGRATION REFORM I TAKE IT YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE ARE 10:56:22 YOU SPEAKING ONLY TO FARM WORKERS OR DO YOU SEE THE VALUE 10:56:26 IN AMERICA ANSWERING THE CALL AND NOT TURNING A BLIND EYE TIME 10:56:31 INTEGRATION AND LOOKING AT IMMIGRATION COMPREHENSIVELY. 10:56:35 DO YOU THINK IT'S LONG OVERDO FOR THIS COUNTRY TO PASS A 10:56:40 COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM PLAN THAT LOOKS AT ALL ASPECTS 10:56:44 FOR THOSE WHO ARE ILLEGAL, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO COME HERE 10:56:48 AND NEED TO ACCESS OUR COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS? 10:56:51 I THINK THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY UNDOCUMENTED MEXICAN 10:56:57 WORKERS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES DOING JOBS AND WE'VE 10:57:00 IGNORED THE ISSUE FOR TOO LONG. WE NEED TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES 10:57:07 AND MANO, WHATEVER THE SPANISH WORD FOR MANO IS. 10:57:10 LET ME CONCLUDE BY SAYING I APPRECIATE MR. COLBERT, BUT I 10:57:15 HOPE THAT THIS HEARING WILL LEAD TO THE FOUNDATION FOR 10:57:19 COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM, WHICH I TRULY BELIEVE IS 10:57:22 THE UNDERPINNINGS OF WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT. 10:57:26 MR. RODRIGUEZ, NO JOB SHOULD BE DIMINISHED. 10:57:29 NO JOB. AND THE WORKERS THAT ARE BEHIND 10:57:32 YOU, THEIR JOB IS NOT DIMINISHED AND I THINK WE CAN WORK 10:57:35 ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER AND TELL AMERICA WE'RE BETTER WORKING. 10:57:38 THE INTELLIGENT LADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 10:57:42 BEFORE RECOGNIZING MR. PUGH, I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE 10:57:46 RANKING MEMBER THAT THE DEMOCRATIC RULE IS THAT ALL 10:57:49 BILLS MUST BE POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE ON THE INTERNET. 10:57:56 AND I WOULD -- I WOULD YIELD NOW TO MR. PUGH FOR HIS FIVE MINUTES 10:58:04 OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 10:58:08 SINCE I HAVE NO LIFE I ACTUALLY DO READ THE BILLS, INCLUDING THE 10:58:11 HEALTH CARE BILL. AND ALSO READ THE ARIZONA LAW, 10:58:15 UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION. 10:58:18 BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO 10:58:22 SEE A FELLOW TEXASAN, MR. RODRIGUEZ FOR BEING HERE. 10:58:28 THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES. ONE LEGAL IMMIGRATION VERSUS 10:58:35 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. LEGAL WORKERS VERSUS ILLEGAL 10:58:40 WORKERS. THE PROBLEM IS ILLEGAL WORKERS. 10:58:42 IF THE COUNTRY NEEDS MORE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO WORK THAT'S AN 10:58:45 ISSUE TO BE SOLVED AND THE ANSWER IS NOT JUST TO ALLOW MORE 10:58:49 ILLEGALS INTO THE COUNTRY, IT'S TO SOLVE THE LEGAL PROCESS TO 10:58:53 COME HERE TO WORK AS A MIGRANT WORKER. 10:59:00 THE OTHER ISSUE IS WAGES. BASED ON WHAT YOUR WRITTEN 11:00:00 GET COMPENSATED FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO. 11:00:02 SO, LOW WAGES SEEMS TO BE THE ISSUE HERE. 11:00:07 NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO STAY IN THE 11:00:10 COUNTRY OR BE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. 11:00:13 LOW WAGES, FIX THE PROCESS TO LET PEOPLE COME IN IF WE NEED 11:00:16 THOSE WORKERS BUT DEAL WITH THE 14 MILLION UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS, 11:00:22 4.5 MILLION OF WHICH DRAWING UP TO $390 A WEEK FOR UP TO 99 11:00:31 WEEKS. NOW, DR. SWAIN I WANT TO GO BACK 11:00:33 TO SOME OF YOUR TESTIMONY AND ASK YOU TO KIND OF RECTIFY AND 11:00:39 RESOLVE THESE ISSUES THAT I HAVE JUST MENTIONED AND SEE HOW, 11:00:42 BECAUSE I REPRESENT A GREAT NUMBER OF MINORITIES IN PORT 11:00:47 ARTHUR, TEXAS, 14% OF THEM ARE UNEMPLOYED IN PORT ARTHUR, 11:00:52 TEXAS, AND HOW WOULD YOU SEE A SYSTEM TO CREATE FAIR WAGES, 11:01:02 COMPENSATED WAGES WHERE EVERYBODY IS PAYING TAXES NOT 11:01:05 JUST SOME PEOPLE PAYING TAXES HOW WOULD YOU SEE CONGRESS MOVE 11:01:09 IN A DIRECTION REGARDING LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO WORK AND ALSO 11:01:15 GETTING MORE AMERICANS WORKING? >> WELL, THE FIRST THING, I 11:01:19 THINK, THAT WE NEED TO DO IS, AS I SAID BEFORE, ENFORCE THE 11:01:25 EXISTING LAWS AND TO PUT THE EVERIFY PROGRAM THAT THE FEDERAL 11:01:34 GOVERNMENT HAS AND MANY PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THAT PROGRAM. 11:01:38 THAT PROGRAM, IF IT WAS MANDATORY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IT 11:01:42 WOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE THERE 11:01:44 ARE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON 11:01:49 THE PAYROLLS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE JOBS. 11:01:51 THESE ARE JOBS THAT SHOULD GO TO AMERICAN WORKERS AND SO I THINK 11:01:54 THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS AND THEN 11:02:00 SEE HOW MUCH SURPLUS LABOR WE MAY NEED. 11:02:02 IF WE HAVE A LABOR SHORTAGE AFTER WE ENFORCE OUR LAWS THEN 11:02:06 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS AND SEE HOW THEY 11:02:09 NEED TO BE CHANGED. I THINK IT SHOULD BE EASIER FOR 11:02:12 PEOPLE TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES LEGALLY AND THAT WE 11:02:15 SHOULD REWARD THOSE THAT DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, THAT COME 11:02:20 LEGALLY, AND NOT ALLOW THAT INTEREST, YOU KNOW, TO 11:02:25 SOMEHOW -- THE ICHBT PEOPLE THAT COME HERE LEGALLY THEY SEEM TO 11:02:29 GET THE WORST END OF THE DEAL. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE 11:02:32 IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE TRYING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, AND MANY OF 11:02:36 THEM FEEL THAT THEY WOULD GET A BETTER DEAL IF THEY WERE TO FALL 11:02:40 OUT OF STATUS AND BECOME ILLEGAL RATHER THAN TO TRY TO DO IT 11:02:45 THAT'S LEGAL. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE 11:02:47 COMMENT ABOUT THE TAKE OUR JOBS INITIATIVE. 11:02:50 THE VERY FACT THAT THEY NAMED IT TAKE OUR JOBS IS A DETERRENCE, 11:02:56 BECAUSE THE NAME ITSELF IMPLIES THE JOBS BELONG TO SOMEONE ELSE. 11:03:00 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE SAYING TAKE OUR JOBS. 11:03:02 I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO TAKE A JOB THAT 11:03:06 BELONGED TO SOMEONE ELSE. >> MR. RODRIGUEZ, LET ME ASK YOU 11:03:10 A GENERIC QUESTION. IN THE FARM WORKING INDUSTRY HOW 11:03:16 MANY, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY PEOPLE WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY 11:03:18 THAT ARE FOREIGN NATIONALS ARE LEGALLY HERE ILLEGALLY HERE. 11:03:24 CAN YOU GIVE ME A PERCENTAGE? >> SURE. 11:03:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CONGRESSMAN. 11:03:29 THE ESTIMATE IS BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR 11:03:32 ABOUT 53%. BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE AFTER 11:03:36 BEING OUT THERE ALL THE TIME PROBABLY MORE LIKE 70% TO 75% OF 11:03:41 UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS WORKING IN THE AGRICULTURE WORKFORCE TODAY. 11:03:45 >> ALL RIGHT. JUST ONE LAST COMMENT. 11:03:47 I AGREE WITH DR. SWAIN WE NEED TO FIX THE LEGAL IMMIGRATION 11:03:51 SYSTEM. IT'S TOO COMPLICATED. 11:03:53 IT TAKES TOO LONG. AND WITH THAT I WILL YIELD BACK. 11:03:57 >> THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. VERY MUCH. 11:03:59 I WILL TURN NOW TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MISS 11:04:03 WATERS FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM 11:04:07 CHAIRWOMAN. I FIND THIS HEARING TO BE MOST 11:04:10 INTERESTING, AND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IMMIGRANT WORKERS 11:04:17 ARE TAKING JOBS FROM AMERICANS AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN 11:04:23 MENTIONED AN AWFUL LOT HERE TODAY, AND I'M SO PLEASED TO 11:04:27 HEAR THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN AFRICAN-AMERICANS 11:04:30 GETTING JOBS. I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN THE FACT 11:04:34 THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE HEARING DISCUSSION ABOUT 11:04:39 INCREASED WAGES WHEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST STRUGGLES WE'VE HAD IN 11:04:43 THIS CONGRESS IS INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE. 11:04:45 AND SO THIS IS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO ME AS I LISTEN TO SOME OF THE 11:04:53 INTERESTS, PARTICULARLY OF SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OPPOSITE 11:04:56 SIDE OF THE AISLE. LET ME JUST SAY THIS THAT, OF 11:05:00 COURSE, THERE ARE AMERICANS AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO WOULD WORK 11:05:04 ON SOME OF THESE JOBS BUT LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU FOR PEOPLE IN MY 11:05:10 DISTRICT THIS IS NOT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE KIND OF JOB 11:05:13 THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. I IMAGINE VERY DESPERATE ONES 11:05:18 WOULD TAKE SOME OF THESE JOBS FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME IF 11:05:22 THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, IF IT CONCERNED THEIR SURVIVAL, BUT IF 11:05:28 I HAD TO SUPPORT SUBSIDIZING CORPORATIONS TO HIRE WORKERS, I 11:05:35 WOULD NOT PUT MY EMPHASIS ON FARM LABOR. 11:05:38 I WOULD PUT MY EMPHASIS ON CONSTRUCTION JOBS, FOR EXAMPLE, 11:05:43 IN MY DISTRICT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WELL EDUCATED 11:05:49 ASK FOR AND SEEK OUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON 11:05:53 CONSTRUCTION JOBS. WE HAD ONE PROGRAM THAT WAS 11:05:58 LAYING FIBER OPTIC THAT MANY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO DID NOT 11:06:04 HAVE SKILLS LEARNED TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK, SO WHETHER WE'RE 11:06:09 TALKING ABOUT IN CONSTRUCTION, OR COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY, 11:06:15 WHERE TRAINING IS AVAILABLE AND POSSIBLE, I WOULD SUBSIDIZE 11:06:21 EMPLOYERS TO INCREASE THOSE KIND OF JOBS. 11:06:25 I WOULD ALSO SUBSIDIZE EMPLOYERS TO BRING JOBS FROM OFFSHORE BACK 11:06:31 INTO THE UNITED STATES WHERE THEY WOULD BE IN THE INNER 11:06:33 CITIES AND IN THE URBAN AREAS BECAUSE THIS BUSINESS OF TALKING 11:06:39 ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FROM URBAN AREAS TO RURAL AREAS IS JUST 11:06:43 UNREAL. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS WORK 11:06:51 B WORKABLE. 11:06:52 I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION 11:06:56 REFORM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. 11:06:59 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY FRIEND, MR. RODRIGUEZ, WHO I'VE KNOWN 11:07:02 FOR MANY YEARS AND PROUD TO SAY THAT I WAS IN THE CALIFORNIA 11:07:07 LEGISLATURE WHEN HOWARD BERMAN LED THE WAY ON ALL OF THE 11:07:11 REFORMS THAT HE DID FOR IMMIGRANT WORKERS, WORKING WITH 11:07:16 CESAR CHAVEZ AND I THINK HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND 11:07:21 ORGANIZERS OF OUR TIME. LET ME ASK YOU, IMMIGRATION 11:07:26 REFORM, IF WE TALK ABOUT ALLOWING CITIZENSHIP TO BE MADE 11:07:33 AVAILABLE TO FARM WORKERS, HOW WOULD YOU FRAME THAT? 11:07:37 WOULD YOU SAY THAT IF YOU'VE BEEN HERE WORKING WITHOUT PAPERS 11:07:44 FOR FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS, TWO YEARS, TEN YEARS YOU SHOULD BE 11:07:49 AFFORD CITIZENSHIP, HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? 11:07:51 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CONGRESSWOMAN WATERS. 11:07:54 IN FACT WE DO HAVE A SOLUTION AND THE LEGISLATION THAT MR. 11:07:59 BERMAN AND THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE CONGRESS ADAM PUTNAM HAVE 11:08:04 PUT TOGETHER AND FASHIONED IS TO DEAL WITH THE AGRICULTURE 11:08:07 INDUSTRY SPECIFICALLY IS THAT A WORKER THAT WORKED 150 DAYS IN 11:08:11 AGRICULTURE IN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BECOME 11:08:15 PART OF THE AG JOBS PROGRAM AS WE CALL THE LEGISLATION. 11:08:19 BUT FARM WORKERS WOULD NOT GET AUTOMATIC LEGALIZATION AS WE 11:08:23 TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THEY WOULD BE PUT INTO A PROGRAM OF EARNED 11:08:28 LEGALIZATION WHEREBY THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE WORKING IN 11:08:30 AGRICULTURE FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 11:08:33 IN ADDITION, THEY WOULD BE PAID UPWARDS OF $500 MILLION OVERALL 11:08:39 WITHIN THE ENTIRE GROUP OF FINES FOR BEING HERE AND COMING INTO 11:08:43 THE COUNTRY UNDOCUMENTED. >> I'LL GET TO THAT. 11:08:48 LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THIS IN WITH REGARDS TO 11:08:52 IMMIGRATION REFORM. WOULD YOU SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT 11:08:55 FINES FOR EMPLOYERS WHO BREAK THE LAW? 11:08:58 >> ONCE WE GET THIS SETTLED AND ONCE WE DEAL WITH THIS 11:09:01 PARTICULAR ISSUE, YES, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN ENFORCEMENT 11:09:04 POLICY PUT INTO PLACE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE CONTINUED 11:09:08 IMMIGRANTS COMING IN THAT WOULD VIOLATE THOSE LAWS. 11:09:11 >> DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOME IMMIGRANTS WHO SHOULD BE 11:09:15 DEPORTED FOR SOME REASON, WHETHER THEY ARE CRIMINALS OR 11:09:18 SOME OTHER KINDS OF REASON? >> IF A IMMIGRANT HAS COMMITTED 11:09:23 SERIOUS LAWS WITHIN OUR COUNTRY YES THAT'S A REASON FOR THEIR 11:09:27 DEPORTATION AT THIS TIME. >> WOULD YOU SUPPORT AN 11:09:32 IMMIGRATION REFORM OF SOME WAY OF KEEPING FAMILIES TOGETHER 11:09:38 WHERE YOU HAVE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE 11:09:41 FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, CHILDREN WERE BORN HERE, THEY ARE LEGAL 11:09:45 AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE MOTHER OR FATHER MAY BE FACED 11:09:50 WITH DEPORTATION, HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH THAT? 11:09:52 >> THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED SO WE'LL ASK HIM TO 11:09:56 ANSWER. >> THANK YOU. 11:09:57 >> I WOULD SUPPORT ANY IMMIGRATION REFORM COMPREHENSIVE 11:10:01 OR THE DREAM ACT THATTED TO WORK KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER. 11:10:04 THAT'S THE BASIS OF OUR SOCIETY TO HAVE FAMILIES TOGETHER, 11:10:07 IMMIGRANT FAMILIES DON'T TOGETHER JUST LIKE ANY OTHER 11:10:10 AMERICAN FAMILY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 11:10:12 >> THANK YOU. WE TURN NOW TO MR. LUNDGREN FOR 11:10:18 HIS FIVE MINUTES. >> MIGHT RESPOND WHEN YOU SAY 11:10:21 THERE'S A DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RULE OF A 72 HOUR NOTICE. 11:10:25 PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO INFORM YOUR LEADERSHIP SINCE JUST THREE 11:10:28 WEEKS AGO I RECEIVED NO NOTICE OF A BILL THAT CONTAINED PART OF 11:10:35 A BILL I INTRODUCED TO GET RID OF THE 1099 REQUIREMENT ON SMALL 11:10:39 BUSINESS THAT'S IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL. 11:10:41 OUR LEADERSHIP WAS GIVEN TEN SECONDS NOTICE. 11:10:44 TEN SECONDS NOTICE. >> WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD. 11:10:47 >> HAPPY IF YOU CAN GIVE ME MORE THAN TEN SECONDS. 11:10:49 >>IT'S NOT A DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RULE, IT'S A HOUSE RULE. 11:10:53 AND THE MEASURE THAT THE GENTLEMAN IS DISCUSSING WAS 11:10:56 ACTUALLY ON THE SUSPENSION CALENDAR WHICH HAS A 11:11:00 DIFFERENT -- >> OKAY. 11:11:01 THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE 72 HOUR RULE. 11:11:04 >> ON THE SUSPENSION CALENDAR. >> SO LONG AS YOU ARE IN 11:11:07 COMMAND. WHICH REQUIRES A TWO-THIRDS 11:11:10 VOTE. >> I UNDERSTAND. 11:11:12 TEN SECONDS IS NOT 72 HOURS AND PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO INFORM YOUR 11:11:16 LEADERSHIP OF THAT RATHER THAN THE CAUCUS. 11:11:18 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. RODRIGUEZ THIS. 11:11:20 IF YOU ESTIMATE THAT 75% OF THOSE WORKING IN THE FIELDS ARE 11:11:25 HERE ILLEGALLY, 25%, I PRESUME ARE HERE LEGALLY. 11:11:30 HOW ARE WE ABLE TO ATTRACT THAT 25% SINCE PRESUMABLY THEY ARE 11:11:36 SUBJECTED TO THE SAME PRICE STRUCTURE AND WORKING CONDITIONS 11:11:40 AS OTHERS? >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 11:11:45 CONGRESSMAN. AS I INTRODUCED THE INDIVIDUALS 11:11:47 THAT ARE HERE, THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FARM WORKERS THAT 11:11:51 ARE HERE LEGALLY, WORKING HERE LEGALLY THAT HAVE BEEN IN 11:11:55 AGRICULTURE A LONG TIME. THE ONES I JUST INTRODUCED TO 11:12:00 YOU. THEY'VE BEEN HERE, WORKED HARD. 11:12:02 THEY ENJOY WORKING WITH THE EMPLOYERS, THEY ENJOY THE WORK 11:12:05 AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO. THEY HAVE GOOD WAGES WHERE THEY 11:12:08 WORK AT, THEY HAVE GOOD BENEFITS, MEDICAL PLAN, PENSION 11:12:11 PLAN, VACATIONS, PAID HOLIDAYS LIKE ANY OTHER AMERICAN WORKER 11:12:15 HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> SO, YOUR TELLING US THAT THE 11:12:19 25% THAT ARE SUCCESSFULLY RECRUITED TO THE AGRICULTURAL 11:12:24 FIELDS ARE RECRUITED SUCCESSFULLY BECAUSE THEY GET 11:12:28 APPROPRIATE WAGES AND THEY GET APPROPRIATE WORKING CONDITIONS? 11:12:31 >> I THINK THAT'S ONE FACTOR. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE 11:12:35 EMPLOYERS THAT HAVE UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS WORKING WITH THEM ALSO 11:12:40 OFTENTIMES WANT TO SEE THOSE EMPLOYEES CONTINUE WORKING WITH 11:12:43 THEM. >> I REALIZE THAT. 11:12:45 THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS, I'M TRYING TO 11:12:48 WORK THIS THING OUT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOUR PREMISE IS 11:12:52 THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO THE FIELDS BECAUSE 11:12:56 AMERICANS WON'T TAKE THOSE JOBS, YOU THEN TELL ME THAT 25% OF 11:13:00 THOSE PEOPLE IN THE FIELDS ARE AMERICANS, SO MY QUESTION IS, 11:13:03 HOW ARE WE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY ATTRACT THEM SEAN IT DIFFERENT 11:13:07 THAN THE CONDITIONS AND WAGES AVAILABLE TO THE OTHER 75 AND IF 11:13:11 THAT BE SO, COULD WE ATTRACT A LARGER NUMBER OF AMERICANS 11:13:16 REPLICATING WHAT WE DO FOR THAT 25% THAT ARE AMERICANS WORKING 11:13:20 IN THE SNEELD. >> OUR SOLUTION IS REALISTIC 11:13:22 RIGHT NOW AND PRACTICAL. THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY NEEDS 11:13:26 THESE WORKERS NOW. THEY HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT THEY 11:13:29 WORK WITH NOW FOR MANY YEARS. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS TO GIVE THEM 11:13:32 THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LEGAL STATUS IN THIS COUNTRY. 11:13:35 >> UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. 11:13:37 >> AS A RESULT OF THAT, CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE, WAGES 11:13:41 WILL IMPROVE. THE LIKELIHOOD OF AMERICAN 11:13:45 CONSUMERS HAVING A GOOD SAFE FOOD SUPPLY WILL ALSO BE TAKEN 11:13:48 CARE OF. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOTH YOU 11:13:50 AND MR. GLAIZE, IS IT AN ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL TO THE AG 11:13:56 JOBS BILL THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT ON THE 11:14:00 WORKERS' SIDE ARE ALLOWED TO BE O 11:14:08 ON THE PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND BE PUT IN FRONT LINE OF OTHERS 11:14:14 WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW. >> THEY WOULD NOT BE PUT IN THE 11:14:17 FRONT OF THE LINE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK 11:14:20 MINIMALLY FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS TO BE QUALIFIED TO 11:14:24 GET A GREEN CARD. THEY WOULD NOT GET A GREEN CARD 11:14:29 UNTIL AFTER THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN AGRICULTURE 11:14:32 FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. >> OKAY. 11:14:35 >> THEN THEY CAN GATE GREEN CARD WHICH DOESN'T PUT THEM IN FRONT 11:14:38 OF THE LINE JUST GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY THEN TO GO -- 11:14:41 >> LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. ONE OF THE MAJOR SENDING 11:14:47 COUNTRIES IS MEXICO. HOW LONG DOES ONE HAVE TO WAIT 11:14:51 IN MEXICO IF ONE WANTS TO GET IN LINE TO GET LEGAL ENTRY TO THE 11:14:57 UNITED STATES AND WORK TOWARDS A GREEN CARD? 11:14:58 >> I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA BECAUSE 11:15:02 THE WORKERS THAT I WORK WITH, UNFORTUNATELY, COME -- 11:15:06 >> THAT'S THE QUESTION WHETHER THEY ARE IN FRONT LINE OR NOT. 11:15:09 IF PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT LONGER THAN THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS 11:15:13 OR EIGHT YEARS OR TEN YEARS TO WAIT IN THE LINE GET IN LEGALLY 11:15:18 THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING PUT IN FRONT OF THE LINE. 11:15:21 >> CAN I CLARIFY THAT? >> JUST ASK MR. GLAIZE IS IT 11:15:25 ESSENTIAL TO YOUR PROGRAM, MR. GLAIZE THAT THEY BE PUT ON THE 11:15:29 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER TYPE OF LEGAL STATUS? 11:15:33 >> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED SO WE'LL ASK MR. GLAIZE 11:15:36 TO RESPOND. >> LET ME SAY THANK YOU VERY 11:15:38 MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO ACTUALLY FIX THIS PROBLEM. 11:15:43 IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE WORKERS THAT ARE HERE NOW BE ALLOWED TO 11:15:48 HAVE WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR A PERIOD OF X NUMBER OF YEARS. 11:15:52 THE AG JOBS CONTEMPLATES A FIXING OF THE H2A PROGRAM WHICH 11:15:59 WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WORK TOWERS PICK THESE 11:16:02 CROPS. THAT'S OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE. 11:16:04 IN THE MEAN TIME I CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE A CROP ONE YEAR. 11:16:08 NOW THE STATUS DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK THAT'S A PART OF OUR 11:16:14 AMERICAN WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY. 11:16:17 AND PUTTING THEM AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE I AGREE WITH MR. 11:16:21 RODRIGUEZ, NO THEY DON'T GO THE FRONT OF THE LINE. 11:16:24 THEY WILL HAVE WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR A PERIOD OF 11:16:26 YEARS AND THEN THEY CAN SEEK THEIR CITIZENSHIP AT THAT TIME. 11:16:29 >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I RECOGNIZE THE GENTLELADY 11:16:34 FROM CALIFORNIA, MISS SANCHEZ. FIVE MINUTES. 11:16:37 >> THANK YOU MARKS DAM CHAIRWOMAN. 11:16:40 THANK YOU TO ALL THE PANELIST WHOSE ARE HERE TODAY. 11:16:43 I'VE HEARD SO MANY INTERESTING AND SOMEWHAT, I THINK, 11:16:47 OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS TODAY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN 11:16:51 WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONING. I JUST WANT TO START BY MAKING 11:16:56 AN OBSERVATION. IF AS SOME MEMBERS OF THE PANEL 11:16:59 HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THESE IMMIGRANT WORKERS ARE TAKING 11:17:02 JOBS THAT AMERICANS WANT THEN I WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE 11:17:08 ZERO UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR AND I WOULD 11:17:13 EXPECT THAT MANY, MANY AMERICANS WOULD BE RUSHING DURING THIS 11:17:16 TOUGH ECONOMIC TIME TO TAKE THESE JOBS AND YET MR. RODRIGUEZ 11:17:21 HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU SAY ACTUALLY INQUIRED ABOUT GOING 11:17:24 OUT TO TAKE A JOB IN THE FIELDS? >> WE HAD ABOUT 3 MILLION HITS 11:17:30 ON OUR WEBSITE SINCE JUNE 24th. OF THAT GROUP 8600 WERE SERIOUS 11:17:36 ABOUT TRYING APPLY FOR IT. AND OF THAT GROUP WE HAVE 11:17:40 DOCUMENTED SEVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING OUT IN THE 11:17:43 FIELDS RIGHT NOW. >> DID THOSE SEVEN REMAIN IN 11:17:45 THAT JOB? >> AS FAR AS WE KNOW RIGHT NOW 11:17:47 THEY ARE STILL WORKING THERE, YES. 11:17:49 >> BUT THERE WAS A HUGE DROP OFF BETWEEN THE INQUIRIES BETWEEN 11:17:58 THOSE THAT SIGNED UP AND ACTUALLY WENT TO WORK. 11:18:01 >> INCREDIBLE DROP OFF SNIPE THINK THE TAKE OUR JOBS ACT 11:18:05 CAMPAIGN, I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT IF YOU JUST 11:18:08 CALLED IT TAKE A JOB CAMPAIGN THAT THOSE 8,000 PEOPLE WOULD 11:18:11 ALL BE WORKING IN THE FIELD TODAY BUT THAT'S JUST MY 11:18:14 PERSONAL OPINION. I DON'T THINK THE SEMANTICS OF 11:18:17 WHAT YOU CALL THE CAMPAIGN S-ONCE PEOPLE PROBABLY FIGURED 11:18:20 OUT WHAT THE WORK ACTUALLY ENTAILED THAT'S WHERE THE BIG 11:18:24 DROP OFF CAME. WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S MAYBE AN 11:18:27 ACCURATE ASSESSMENT, MR. RODRIGUEZ? 11:18:29 >> YES. WE WERE NOT TRYING -- WE DIDN'T 11:18:32 GO TO ANY EXPERTS TO DESIGN THIS CAMPAIGN. 11:18:34 AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY MY TESTIMONY WAS FARM WORKERS WHO 11:18:39 SUGGESTED TO INVITE PEOPLE TO COME AND WORK IN THE FIELDS 11:18:43 BECAUSE THEY WERE TIRED OF HEARING ALL THE CRITICISM THAT 11:18:45 THEY AS FARM WORKERS, AS IMMIGRANTS TAKE AWAY AMERICAN 11:18:49 JOBS. >> THANK YOU, I'M NOT TRYING TO 11:18:51 CUT YOU OFF. I WANT TO GET THROUGH SOME OF 11:18:53 THESE QUESTIONS. THE NEXT POINT I FIND INCREDIBLY 11:18:56 INTEREST IS I'M HEARING FROM COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 11:18:59 THE AISLE AND SOME OF THE PANELISTS THE REASON WHY 11:19:02 AMERICANS DON'T TAKE THESE JOBS IS BECAUSE, GOSH, THE PAY ISN'T 11:19:06 HIGH ENOUGH. AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING 11:19:08 CONDITIONS ARE BAD. AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING 11:19:12 BECAUSE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG MOST AGRICULTURE WORKERS IN THIS 11:19:17 COUNTRY AREN'T COVERED BY COMPENSATION LAW, MINIMUM WAGE 11:19:21 LAW, OVERTIME LAW, RIGHT TO ORGANIZE. 11:19:23 AM I CORRECT IN STATING THAT, MR. RODRIGUEZ? 11:19:26 >> YES, YOUR. >> SO, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF 11:19:29 YOU REALLY WANT THE WAGES TO GO UP IN THIS INDUSTRY US A SAY DO 11:19:32 YOU SO THAT THEN AMERICAN WORKERS WOULD WANT THIS JOB THAT 11:19:35 MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AND SOME OF THE 11:19:39 PANELISTS WOULD BE ADVOCATES FOR LABOR REFORM PARTICULARLY IN THE 11:19:42 AGRICULTURAL SECTOR AND YET I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME SOME 11:19:47 INFORMATION REGARDING SOME VOTES THAT WE'VE TAKEN HERE IN 11:19:49 CONGRESS ON SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WOULD HELP RAISE WAGES FOR 11:19:53 WORKERS LIKE HR 2 THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE, INCREASING IT BY 11:20:00 $2.10 OVER TWO YEARS FROM $5.15. I NOTE MR. KING AND MR. LUNDGREN 11:20:08 ALL VOTED NO ON THAT PARTICULAR BILL. 11:20:11 I FIND IT CONTRADICTORY FOR THEM TO SAY THE WAGES NEED TO BE 11:20:15 HIGHER BUT WHEN WE TRY TO RAISE WAGES FOR WORKERS ACROSS THIS 11:20:20 COUNTRY THEY VOTE NO. >> WOULD THE GENTLELADY YIELD. 11:20:24 >> I WILL NOT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I WANT TO 11:20:27 ASK. MR. GLAIZE YOU SPOKE OF THE 11:20:28 NUMBER OF FARMS INCLUDING MANY IN MY HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA 11:20:31 WHO HAVE MOVED OR ARE CONSIDERING MOVING THEIR 11:20:35 OPERATIONS OVERSEAS AND I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU TALK IN A LITTLE 11:20:38 BIT GREATER DETAIL ABOUT WHY A FARM WOULD MOVE OPERATIONS TO 11:20:42 ANOTHER COUNTRY, AND WHAT THAT DOES TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES IN 11:20:46 THIS COUNTRY WHEN THOSE FARMS RELOCATE AND HOW CAN WE REDUCE 11:20:50 THE INCENTIVE FOR THOSE FARMS TO RELOCATE IN OTHER COUNTRIES? 11:20:55 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN. ESSENTIALLY I'M A SMALL BUSINESS 11:20:59 PERSON. I NEED TO MAKE A PROFIT. 11:21:01 I OPERATE BY SUPPLY AND DEMAND. WORLD SUPPLY. 11:21:07 AND ESSENTIALLY IF A FARM IS GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO GROW 11:21:13 HARVEST, PACK AND SELL ITS CROP AT A PROFIT, THEN THAT FARM SER 11:21:16 GOING TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS, THAT FOOD THAT THE FARMER WAS 11:21:22 PRODUCING WILL COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 11:21:25 OUR APPLES COMPETE WITH CAN CHILEAN APPLES. 11:21:36 IF I CANNOT CONTINUE TO GROW AND PRODUCE AMS AND SELL THEM AT A 11:21:41 PROFIT, I'LL GO OUT OF BUSINESS, I WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PASS 11:21:47 ON. >> EVERYBODY SUPPORTED BY THAT 11:21:50 BUSINESS WOULD LOSE THEIR JOBS AS WELL? 11:21:53 >> CERTAINLY. BY THE TIME WE REINVEST $1.6 11:21:59 MILLION TO GET OUR CROP READY ON THE TREE THAT'S SPREAD OUT. 11:22:03 >> FINAL QUESTION. MR. COLBERT AFTER YOUR 11:22:05 EXPERIENCE OF WORKING ON THE FIELDS WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO 11:22:08 PAY YOU AS A CAREER DAY IN AND DAY OUT 365 DAYS A YEAR? 11:22:13 >> WHATEVER THE MINIMUM WAGE IS. ING? 11:22:16 >> THANK YOU. >> THE GENTLELADY'S TIME IS 11:22:19 EXPIRED. WE TURN NOW TO THE RANKING 11:22:21 MEMBER MR. KING FOR HIS FIVE MINUTES. 11:22:23 >> THANK YOU MARKS DAM CHAIR. AS I LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY 11:22:26 HERE I'VE ACCUMULATED A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE 11:22:32 REBUTTED NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE MINIMUM WAGE ISSUE. 11:22:37 MR. GLAIZE PACE HIS WORKERS $93 A DAY FOR NINE HOURS WORK. 11:22:41 THAT WORKS OUT TO BE $10.33 AN HOUR AND TO HEAR MISS SANCHEZ 11:22:47 SAY THAT ARE THERE NOT LAWS THAT APPLY TO AG WORKERS AND IT'S 11:22:52 TRUE TO SOME DEGREE AND WE NEED JUST TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM 11:22:55 WAGE SO WE CAN INCREASE THE WAGES TO FARM WORKERS AND BE 11:22:58 ACCUSE EVIDENCE LET ME SAME INCONSISTENT WITH THE RATIONALE. 11:23:06 IF MR. GLAIZE IS PAYING WHAT HE SAYS AND THE MINIMUM WAGE IN THE 11:23:09 UNITED STATES IS CURRENTLY $7.25 AN HOUR THERE MUST BE A REASON 11:23:12 MR. GLAIZE PAYS MORE THAN THE MINIMUM WAGE AND THAT'S CALLED 11:23:16 SUPPLY AND DEMAND AS I HEARD SOME OF THE WITNESSES REFERENCE 11:23:19 AND DR. SWAIN WOULD ADDRESS THAT WITHIN THAT CONTEXT. 11:23:22 I HAVE SAID LABOR IS A COMMODITY. 11:23:24 I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AS LABOR. I SPENT MORE TIME IN LABOR THAN 11:23:29 ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS PANEL. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SUPPLY AND 11:23:33 DEMAND. I LOOKED AT PEOPLE THAT COMPETED 11:23:39 AGAINST ME FOR THOSE JOBS. I STARTED ON THE PIPELINE IN THE 11:23:45 CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS BUT THOSE WORKERS THAT DUG DITCH BY HAND 11:23:48 AND IF THEY GOT TIRED AND COULDN'T DIG AND THEY HAD TO 11:23:52 STOP AND REST ON THE SHOVEL SOMEBODY WAS ASSISTING ON THE 11:23:55 DIRT PILE TO COME DOWN AND TAKE THE SHOVEL OUT OF THEIR HAND. 11:23:59 THESE WERE AMERICANS LINED UP TO TAKE THE JOB. 11:24:01 THE BACK OF THE LINE PIECE OF THIS, MR. RODRIGUEZ'S TESTIMONY 11:24:04 THAT THEY WOULD GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. 11:24:07 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT LINE IS. 11:24:10 IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINES IN EACH OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE 11:24:13 HAVE LINED UP TO LEGALLY APPLY TO COME TO AMERICA AND I HAVE 11:24:17 GREAT RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. 11:24:21 BUT THAT LINE IS ABOUT 50 MILLION LONG. 11:24:24 IF YOU ADD UP THE ACCUMULATED VISAS OUT THERE IN THE VARIOUS 11:24:30 VARIETIES WE HAVE AND WAITING TIME WE HAVE FROM MEXICO, WE 11:24:33 KNOW THAT IS SEVERAL YAERNS IT MIGHT BE SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE 11:24:38 YEARS. IT'S ABOUT THAT PER OF TIME EVEN 11:24:40 TO BRING IN A FAMILY MEMBER FROM, LET'S SAY A FOREIGN 11:24:43 COUNTRY. SO THE BACK OF THE LINE, IF 11:24:45 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BASKET LINE IT'S BEHIND THE 50 11:24:48 MILLION. NOT IN FRONT OF THE 50 MILLION. 11:24:51 THEN I OFTEN HEAR THE STATEMENT THAT THEY WOULD WYNTON CONTEXT 11:24:56 OF THE BROADER VERSION OF COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM 11:24:59 THAT THEY WOULD LEARN ENGLISH AND PAY A FINE AND THE FINES 11:25:03 START OUT AT $500 AND WENT TO $750 THEN PERHAPS $1500. 11:25:10 LEARNING ENGLISH IS NOT A PENALTY.
A Farmer Buys A Money Order
A mailman on a rural route pulls into a farm. A farmer in overalls approaches the car. The mailman hands over some mail and the farmer purchases a money order, all through the open window of the car. WS shows the mailman's car driving into the distance on the farm road.