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Robert Lipsyte
one of the things you kind of imply, maybe Albert would comment on it is that you're not getting the right information. Through the media, or whatever you're not knowing learning what you need to know, or the community isn't.
Albert Jennings
That's definitely true. When we talk about the media, the media has portrayed young African American males in very negative light. And it seems educators think that and we internalize this, I mean, educators think that we can only go so far, and we picture ourselves only going so far, all we see is young, African American males, the successful ones, being an NBA basketball player, and only 414 NBA basketball players in the country, there are many more brain surgeons, you know, and many more nuclear physicists than our basketball players. But yet, we could never picture ourselves as becoming a nuclear physicist, all we could picture ourselves as becoming an NBA basketball player.
Robert Lipsyte
Well, but somewhere in between there is just you know, most most of us are just kind of ordinary and get jobs Javone in terms of yourself and your friends, how hard is it to go out and just get a job and make a living?
Javone Summers
Well, especially with, with people from my age group, it is hard because they feel that we were not up to the responsibility, and doing the job and, and we have other bad, you know, we will go out and do something else, we would rather be out doing something else than doing the job. We don't really
Robert Lipsyte
When you say they you're talking about the people who would hire people that are hiring stereotypes.
Javone Summers
Yeah, the stereotypes are put in front of us,
Robert Lipsyte
have you tried
Javone Summers
Yes, I have tried to get many jobs and have been turned down, just because, um, and besides most of the jobs that I look for, the I like, when I look for a job, I look for a job that well I can I can produce, like more for the company or something. So I would help the company, I don't want to like stock a stock person or, or messenger or something like that, you know, I want to be I mean, I can understand that you have to work your way up in a company or organization. So, but it's just that they look at us in a different way.
Robert Lipsyte
Greg, one of the implications in a study like this is if Harlem is indeed worse than a part of Bangladesh, is that you have to get out of Harlem, you have to get out of it to make it.
Greg Taylor
Yeah, absolutely there's nothing further from the truth. I think that the figure that was quoted earlier about black people have access to $200 billion dollars worth of, of money that we need to spend on black businesses, in black communities. I think that we need to, to begin, I think Harlem is is a wonderful center of learning of cultural experience of day to day life, both Latino and African American and I think that I it represents what we are and to deny that is to once again to accept what society in a way has said about the African American experience and to deny ourselves I think that we emulate our society and our surroundings. And by taking away Harlem from us in a way we were it's almost like losing a part of us and I think
Robert Lipsyte
you went to college, Greg
Greg Taylor
Yeah I go to Hunter College Now. I'm a senior at Hunter College now
Robert Lipsyte
and did you have I mean, stereotypically, you know, you shouldn't have gotten from what we see in the media shouldn't have gotten there.
Greg Taylor
Absolutely. I have. I've had the typical upbringing, you have a typical, absolutely. I've gone to an inner city high school. And from there I, you know, took a year off. And, you know, I just I had a commitment to myself, but I had to find that in myself. Raul made a comment earlier talking about how most African Americans feel that they can only be stock people, secretaries, messengers, and and this is what we're fed, this is also what we have access to. And there's just something in me. And I think that it's been instilled by in programs like the valley,
Robert Lipsyte
what do you think that you're special? Or that
Greg Taylor
No, not at all? I
Robert Lipsyte
just think that what about Albert,
Greg Taylor
there's a resiliency that you must have. Yeah, I
Robert Lipsyte
mean, you know, you're in college now, right? Yes, that's true. I mean, did you have a typical upbringing, you think that you're special?
Albert Jennings
No, I'm not special. I just think that I was fortunate to have a mother, my mother was special. And when she raised me, she was I didn't watch much television as a young, young child growing up. And I had to go to the army to get the army college fund to go to college. And this is what enabled me financially to attend school. But no, I don't think I'm special. I mean, it's your conditions that allow you to succeed, and the conditions of a young African American male and Harlem are that that he's not allowed to succeed. I mean, his health conditions, his economic conditions, his social conditions, and unless we change these conditions, it's only going to get worse,