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STUDIO INTERVIEW CONTINUES:
Robert Lipsyte 8:47
Garry Kasparov, do you think that there's some sort of psychic thread in the makeup of a chess player, whether it's Johnny Seville and Moe Pink, or You
Garry Kasparov 8:58
No I think they express very well in the the idea of chess, you know, that's this kind of struggle and it's strategical struggle at battle. And this is a fight you know, it's pure fight between two egos and you have to destroy your your your opponent and it's that's it, it could give him great satisfaction that he did it, as we saw right now. But
Robert Lipsyte 9:19
does it give you great satisfaction?
Garry Kasparov 9:20
Yes, I have to not have to play. I have to win.
Robert Lipsyte 9:23
Well, but you talk about a struggle and ego and destruction is I mean, it doesn't sound any more like some sort of rational logical game. It sounds like
Garry Kasparov 9:32
it exists. I mean, it's chess is kind of you need imagination. You need logic in it fantasy, your calculation. I mean, you have to keep this great tension, but it's a fight you know, the final result is to beat your opponent and it's I think it's the best possible victory I mean, to to destroy his ego to destroy his. His mental power. I mean, you if you win chess game, you just better be then then then your opponent,
Robert Lipsyte 10:01
you're a better person.
Garry Kasparov 10:02
Your better this person and everything you better. And if you lose, you should feel miserable. Because you've lost your worst.
Robert Lipsyte 10:11
But when you're sitting there playing a game, aren't you thinking, you know, 50 moves ahead? Or are you thinking about destroying this person?
Garry Kasparov 10:17
No, that's that's that's my target. I mean, to to win the game and to destroy his ego, but I have to do it. I mean, I have to pray to provide a strategy, I have to find the best move and the position I have to create the plan, special strategic plan over if, if it's complicated position, I have to calculate many moves ahead. It's, you know, it's a tactical, tactical ideas, but the strategical ones just to beat your opponent.
Robert Lipsyte 10:40
But there's always been traditionally such a streak of madness in chess players, do you think that it's because of the game?
Garry Kasparov 10:46
I think I don't look like a man.
Robert Lipsyte 10:49
You're only 26. Gary, you've got time. But in terms of why do some of them seem? Is it is it the demands of game
Garry Kasparov 10:59
Yes, it's the problem that if you if you're concentrated very much in chess you can, you can lose your connection with with the rest of the world. And you can beat any other point like Fisher D, but you can lose the final battle against chess? Because just you can be conquered by the game.
Robert Lipsyte 11:13
Was he conquered by the game
Garry Kasparov 11:14
I think so.
Robert Lipsyte 11:15
In what way?
Garry Kasparov 11:17
I mean, he's so that he found the perfection. I mean, he was afraid to start again, you know, he was afraid to make any single mistake. And it was his strategy, because he, he left chess and chess. It was put, it was probably the great loss in his history.
Robert Lipsyte 11:35
Yeah, but I mean, what what difference is there? I mean, you've reached that level of perfection. You're the world champion, you're considered the greatest player in the world.
Garry Kasparov 11:42
Yeah, absolutely. But I'm not afraid to take any new challenge. You know, I'm okay. I can make mistake. But it's i I can't, I can't necessarily, I'm afraid. But I believe that I will win, for sure. And I need new challenges. That's why playing against the computer. I'm taking any new challenge in the world. And I want to continue, it's important for me to beat my opponents. And I saw this example. I mean, a very sad example of Fischer is
Robert Lipsyte 12:06
Let's talk about you beeting out the computer. you, you've beaten the computer. And we have a little bit of tape of the great event last Sunday, the last time you went up against the machine.
Robert Lipsyte 12:26
It was a hot ticket in the chess world. This was the latest electronic challenge to the human champ. Kasparov has the highest rating of any player ever. And his opponent has beaten every other computer. It can analyze 700,000 moves per second. Kasparov whipped the machine. But which of them is the future of the game?