POP MUSIC
Pete Fornatale 40:59
Pete Fornatale back with you on mixed bag radio with my guests today the bacon brothers. It's Kevin and Michael, if you do it alphabetically, it's Michael and Kevin, if you do it by age, I didn't check size places, we'll wait. Wait for later for that. What I would be interested in knowing is how to Philly boys like yourselves became dyed in the wool New Yorkers,
Kevin Bacon 41:24
there's actually sort of a good reason for that our mother was a New Yorker. And our father, when they got married, she moved to Philadelphia, and he really devoted his life to the city of Philadelphia and was very, very influential down there, and really kind of transforming that city and making it the place that it is today. But I think that in subtle ways, our mother would sort of whisper in our ears, you know, you gotta go to New York, you know. I mean, it wasn't really obvious, but she had a real real love, I think for for the city and two of our sisters moved up here. And they were doing very romantic things in the 60s, like living in lofts. You know, when the when the, you know, Soho was just completely abandoned and was basically, you know, factories back in the, in the really old days, and come and visit her and them and see the life that they were living. And, you know, I knew that I had to go to LA or to New York to make a career as an actor. And my heart was really much more focused on the stage. And so the idea of being a New York actor, back in those days had a real kind of mystique that doesn't really have anymore, but it was really important for me to, to move here. And then my brother finally talked him into it, too.
Pete Fornatale 42:49
Did you went to school here, Michael? Yes.
Michael Bacon 42:51
No, I went to University of Denver. It was I never actually Oh, oh, you're right. I leave on my degree at Lehman College. But that was probably 10 or 11 years ago, I said I was a late graduate like when my 40s By the time I got my degree. But it was I can't say enough good things about the City University. What the the music program, Lehman College, you know, I spent two years studying with John Corigliano. How do you get that anywhere else is just was amazing.
Pete Fornatale 43:18
And how did you avoid the temptations of Beverly Hills or? Or that lifestyle?
Kevin Bacon 43:23
Well, I don't know if it's so much. I've always thought of myself as just being too too much of a chicken to move to Los Angeles. I mean, it's just I you know, I, I'm just I feel the happiest and the safest when I'm in New York, and I have my wife's family are all from from Manhattan. I've got my brother and my sister here. And we've got a couple more sisters on the on on the eastern corridor. So they're just like a stone's throw away. And you know, I don't know, I think there's certain sacrifices that you make. Certainly there's it's, it doesn't make any sense to be in the movie business and live in New York. But there's a handful of people that do and it's just just the sacrifice you make for your lifestyle.
Pete Fornatale 44:04
Paul Newman up there in Westport managed pretty nicely. Yeah, a bunch of decades. Okay. You're both obviously very affected by the things that happen to the city. And the most monumental in recent memory was 911. A couple of questions on that. One is how it might have impacted your music, which we'll get to in a second. But first, Kevin, I read somewhere and it gave me chills that you made a connection between that day and a day earlier in your life. Would you mind telling us about that?
Kevin Bacon 44:36
Yeah. Well, when my mother came to pick me up from school, the day that JFK was shot, was this weird moment because, you know, they were people were just going home early. And what year was that? 6363. So I was about five. And I remember showing up at school and I was thinking, wow, something's not cool, because there's no reason for her to be here, I mean, she worked. And, you know, it was just a strange thing that she would be there. And we walked home and she was very sad. I could tell she was sad. And she said, you know, the President's been been killed. And, you know, I didn't really know exactly what that meant, but I knew it wasn't, it wasn't good. When I went to pick up my daughter on September 11, you know, again, the kids didn't know what had happened. But, you know, I've been watching the news. And I just basically said, somebody's down to get Travis and my son and I ran across the park and ended up in my daughter's school on the Upper East Side and walked into the hall. And she looked at me, like, what are you doing here? And I said, we gotta go and try to x as we crossed the the transverse at 60, transverse and I tried to, you know, explain to her what was going on. So that it, you know, they sort of were connected for me in some ways,
Pete Fornatale 45:57
did it hit you that day?
Kevin Bacon 45:58
The enormity of the of the connection topics? Absolutely. Because I knew when I walked into the school, that she would take a look at me and would know that there was something wrong and that I was going to take me a little bit of time before I was going to be able to actually explain it to her son.
Pete Fornatale 46:13
wow. How about on the musical side, Michael, how to something like that. seep its way into your composition.
Michael Bacon 46:23
I think the, I think the most the most impact that had on us is we were in the band was in the midst of a tour in the middle of all that. And we were you know, you were on the road and it's always very strange if you're doing something like playing music and clubs and concerts and all of a sudden something as devastating as had happened to you. You wonder, is it or is what I'm doing worthy of the environment that we're now in and we got a bunch of jobs were canceled but we decided to keep going and I really think musically the thing that got us through is we put we put Dylan's I shall be released at the end of set. And that's just you know, that was so healing to us. I can just remember so many times of of you know, being sitting in a club waiting to go on and then I heard people that I knew had died and I didn't hadn't known you know, stuff like that and we just kind of kept going and you know, when when the when the Katrina thing happened we sort of all of a sudden put that back in the set because it just didn't feel right and the set with some you know, on quarry kind of thing and so you know, I give Bob Dylan a lot of credit for being able to you know writes such a you know, a wonderful kind of a healing piece of music that we could you know borrow when when we are feeling unworthy and and that it's ridiculous to be playing music in this kind of a situation
Pete Fornatale 47:54
listen, I tell you we don't always follow the musical roadmap. Would you be able to do I shall be released