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David Susskind
This is the food. This is the food of Hare Krishna. what is it?
Rukmini
Different things. This is different preparations that we prepared our temple offer to Krishna. This is called poppadoms. And these are simply wonderful is named by our spiritual master. He said he said you eat them and you will become wonderful. And this is a vegetable called Why don't you try some very delicious
David Susskind
okay that's lovely. Yeah.
Rukmini
Take something else.
David Susskind
I don't want to overdo it as this. You eat this stuff all the time?
Rukmini
On Sunday we have a special feast at our center in every city all over the world. There's a beautiful love feast. It's called and we distribute this for shah
David Susskind
This is what you'd have on a wedding feast or something
Rukmini
Yeah, Sunday we're having a beautiful wedding and
David Susskind
I'd love to but I have a previous booking. Tell me how do you live? What's your day? Like? When do you get up in the morning
Rukmini
very early? Because we get up I get up at three in the morning.
David Susskind
Why
Rukmini
different people different times. But that's our spiritual masters instructed us Prabhupada that that's the best time for self realization.
David Susskind
Three o'clock in the morning?
Bhadra Raj Das
Actually happiness to be awake. If you if you said so many things.
David Susskind
How do you get up at three? Is your body's wake up?
Jia Adoyta Das
The body can be adjusted. It's practice
David Susskind
This is simply wonderful as you get up at three o'clock in the morning, right? And the whole city's dark. what do you do
Kalindi
We chant Hare Krishna
David Susskind
at three o'clock in the morning you chant?
Kalindi
Well, first we bathe and then we chat. We go to the temple immediately.
David Susskind
You bathe first,
Kalindi
we bathe first.
David Susskind
How many times a day do you bathe
Kalindi
twice a day.
David Susskind
Sort of a cleaning finish.
Kalindi
The cleanliness is next to godliness.
David Susskind
leave yourself open for those and then you you get up and you take a bath and then you eat some of this do you
Rukmini
well after a while but we have a very beautiful program at each of our temples.
David Susskind
You go to the temple right away.
Rukmini
Yeah, we have a ceremony called Arati which is worshiping the Lord. Aratic means to receive the Lord. So we all chant this Arati ceremony and play nice instruments like this harmonium Matranga the drums you saw in nice cartels very beautiful. Very early in the morning
Rupa Anuga
And we study. We are very nice books literature's the Krishna book, the Srimad Bhagavatam. We study the past times of God. This is a specific contribution of our movement that we are explaining to the world. What God looks like, what he was doing, was associate saw, what does he look like?
David Susskind
what does he look like? What does God look like? He's light and ducks.
Yoga Maya Dasi
That's the spiritual world. We have descriptions in our literature of the spiritual world.
David Susskind
And who are his associates, animals and flowers
Rupa Anuga
all the spirit devotees. Mostly he has a family. You see, everything of this material world is a reflection of the spiritual world. The Supreme Personality of Godhead has a mother or father. He has a brother. He has friends servants. Everything that we see here is simply a reflection of that. It's temporary. That's why the love of this material world temporary. Actual love means what I am. Continuous
David Susskind
Why? Why do you have to get up at three in the morning?
Mongo Maya Das
Well those hours are called the most auspicious hours of the day. You know the best hours are the most conducive for a spiritual realization
David Susskind
what time you go to sleep
Mongo Maya Das
9:30
David Susskind
9:30 at night,
Rupa Anuga
we don't even like to go to sleep. They're the greatest remasters in our line used to forget to go to sleep. There was so much love of Krishna. They forget to eat sometimes. We're so busy in the material world trying to sleep we think sleep as recreation but we think sleeping is death want to be awake, wide awake and conscious of Krishna all the time
Yoga Suara Das
Therefore this chatting in the street people are asleep. We're trying to wake them up
David Susskind
when you you don't eat.
Rukmini
Take some more.
David Susskind
No, no. I mean, it's delicious. But I'm full I think that throw me from it. Oh, what do you you don't eat meat? No, you're vegetarians,
Mongo Maya Das
only vegetable foodstuffs. Krishna says the Bhagavad Gita offer me a leaf, some fruit, some water.
David Susskind
But you also don't have fish
Mongo Maya Das
no fish either. Krishna says If you offer these foodstuffs to me with love, he says I will accept it. And so that's why this food stuff is call prasada. Prasada means mercy of the Lord. Because Krishna says anyone who, who eats something without offering it to me, first person is a thief. So we offer the food to Krishna first, and then he takes not that he needs it. But we offer to him with the love. And then we take the ruminants.
David Susskind
You also have no stimulants or intoxicants.
Mongo Maya Das
No if you're chanting Hare Krishna, that's the highest. It's the highest. Love of God
David Susskind
You will forget whiskey and all that. But what about tea and coffee?
Mongo Maya Das
That's also intoxicant. You know, pick me up.
Jia Adoyta Das
What's the value?
David Susskind
Would you have a Coca Cola?
Jia Adoyta Das
What's the How does it add to our God consciousness? That's our criteria for doing anything. Chanting Hare Krishna adds to our consciousness.
Rukmini
simply wonderful. Don't even desire it. That's, that's the philosophy that by experiencing a higher taste, you forget about the lower taste. So we've all given up smoking cigarettes, so many things, because we're tasting something sweeter.
Rupa Anuga
We're not We're not giving up the world. We're not ascetics. We simply are developing higher taste. So we can give up these things. You see if I said you stop smoking, David, now you stop. Alright, you say, all right. No, I'll stop smoking today. And never again. But what's going to happen within a week or two, that just maybe change a brand, which will be smoking. But if you develop a higher taste, you have no desire to smoke. So we have no desire to eat meat. We have no desire to smoke cigarettes, we have the desire for these things because
David Susskind
Do you have any desire.
Rupa Anuga
Yes, desires are always fulfilled. Because our desires are fulfilled by Krishna directly, not indirectly. We don't want to have indirect relationship with God. We want to be fully conscious of God. And say
David Susskind
Did God in any way say don't eat the fish or don't eat meat.
Kalindi
Jesus Christ said Thou shalt not kill the commandment. But we have said we we've said we shouldn't kill people. But why should we kill animals?
Bhagavad Das
How can you have a nice plate like this and a cow here? What would you do? Would you kill the cow?
David Susskind
I go right to the cow. For the milk
Rupa Anuga
We don't have to kill the cow to take the milk. Why Cause the animal pain? Why do you have to chop a tree down to get the apple? No, you can take the fruit the gods providing is providing this light even. It's providing everything we were taking
David Susskind
that's Con Edison
Rupa Anuga
It's coming from the sun, the sun's coming from Krishna. It's all coming from Krishna. Everything is emanating from Krishna. So all we're doing one little trick we've learned to be happy that we accept joyfully we accept because it's Krishna's mercy. But we give back. Because it's his
Yoga Suara Das
That's a very interesting example that you just gave when you say that this light is coming from Con Edison. That's the point of this movement to change the vision which people have from one of material consciousness or conscious of simply what their senses are dictating to them to one which is tempered by knowledge coming down through the line of teachers of spiritual masters
Rupa Anuga
Now, as we say, we know what the Sun is made of. Right, David, right here on this earth planet. There's all the ingredients for the sun, right? So why don't we make one little tiny one just to float over the New York area and light up the night? Because we don't really want
David Susskind
Back to the dish with stuff with
Kalindi
Because you are what you eat.
David Susskind
You are what you eat. I've read that
Kalindi
So this is spiritual food stuff. So simply by taking spiritual food stuff.
David Susskind
Would that be a typical dinner on Sunday?
Kalindi
Because during the week we eat very simply
David Susskind
that's a feast.
Rupa Anuga
Yes, isn't it?
Rukmini
Take some vegetables
David Susskind
Oh, no. We'll be back. We'll be back in a minute.