Close-up of person milking cow on farm, 1940s

County fair activities include hay pitching and cow milking contests, as well as barnyard animals on display. Note Mastered currently in DVC PRO HD 16 x 9 from film. Available in all HD and SD 43 formats.

Postwar (after World War II) agriculture activities in the United States. Farming equipment in operation on farms. Canned food in a store. Flashback scenes to the Great Depression during the 1930s: A man carries a banner which reads 'Unemployed Will Take Any Job'. Unemployed men lying on a bench. A sign on a gate : 'No Men Wanted'. Shabby housing tenements and shacks of poverty victims falling apart in a rural farm area. Forward again to the post war 1940s: Smoke comes out off chimneys of a factory. American workers busy at a auto assembly line finishing new cars (appears to be 1946 or 1947 Chevrolet cars). Factory workers line up at a pay window to receive pay checks. An industrialist works in his office. Crowds of American citizens on busy city streets with pedestrians and automobiles, and shoppers looking in store windows, including store windows showing elaborate Christmas displays. A cooperative farm plan to produce what the industrial and consumer markets demand. A man milks a cow with an automatic milking machine. A woman using electricity on a farm to power a new open top clothes washing machine. Farm machines are used. Location: United States USA. Date: 1946.

MISCELLANEOUS 1930'S NEWSREEL #21

01:00:00:00Milkman delivers milk, chats with housewife (lame dialogue, real campy), Milk truck pulls up, Milkman delivers milk to house (rides up in cool little truck), Woman in kitchen disappears, Woman looks at dairy farm, Barn, Cows in field, Cow grazing, Various cows grassing (Guernseys, Jerseys, Holstein. No Angus), Cows enters barn for milking, Man uses machine to milk cow, Machine milks cow, Woman pets cows in barn, Farmer pours milk into container, Woman watches man load milk into ice container, Man pushes milk to barn, Dairy truck speeds on road, Milkman picks up cans of milk by roadside, Men unload milk cans at dairy, Men at dairy weigh milk, Man in lab tests samples, System of steel tubes, Containers washed on conveyor, Man explains heater to housewife in milk plant, Scientist greets woman in lab, explains homogenization process, Man demonstrates homogenization by hand. Lame dialogue, Woman tries to homogenize milk by hand. It's tough, Woman uses pump to squeeze milk into glass, Scientist shows woman diagram, Animated diagram shows homogenization process, Man shows homogenization machine to woman, Hand follows pipes in dairy plant, Milk pasteurized in vat. Agitators mix heated milk, Pasteurizing apparatus, Man shows coils in pasteurizer, Various gauges and controls in dairy, Man points to pipes in cooling container, Milk cascading in cooler in dairy, Men load bottles into conveyor, Bottles move on conveyor and washer, Man moves bottles on conveyor, Packing cases being washed on conveyor, Machine fills bottle with milk, Milk bottles move on conveyor, Machine caps bottles in plant, Hands load milk bottles into cases, Cases come out of plant on conveyor, Man stacks crates at milk plant, Scientist tests milk in lab, Scientist talks with woman in lab. Lame campy dialogue, Scientist shows milk test to woman, Man in lab measures curd of milk on scale, Scientist shows woman milk through microscope, Microscopic views of milk molecules. Homogenized and not, Men clean milk plant after run, Milkman loads milk into truck in dark, Milk truck drives up, milkman gets out, Milk truck drives in snow. Milkman gets out in snow, Milk bottles sit on front stoop, Hand mails package at home mailbox, Train passes, Hand places milk bottle on doorstep, Milk bottle on scale, Milk truck passes on road, Milk truck drives up to house. Milkman delivers to house, Crowds on city street. From above, Family eats at dinner table, Boy plays baseball with father in park, Shot of milk bottle, Milk bottle shown with various other foods, Mother holds baby, gives bottle to baby, Baby in crib drinks from bottle, Kids on swings, see saw, Girl plays tennis ("it's a beauty aid, too"), Woman gets out of shower, gets on scale ("milk is not fattening"), Woman drinks glass of milk, smiles, Men at picnic drink milk ("increases earning power"), Woman at home does bills at kitchen table, Display compares price of milk with pop, Milk truck passes, Milk man walks up to camera, smiles, Man snaps his finger and woman disappears, Woman appears in kitchen, Shot of postman's creed ("neither rain nor snow..." and so on), Folded card says "THE END."

Footage from propaganda film Food for Freedom. (1940’s)

Reel 1. <br/> <br/>Pathe News items: "The King Opens Power Station". Aerial shot of Kingston-on-Thames power station. King George VI and Queen Elizabeth are greeted by Lady Mayoress and other dignitaries. King makes a speech. Shots of him and the Queen. He declares the power station open and flicks a switch. Plaque is unveiled. Interior of the station as the King and Queen are shown around. Soundtrack talks of this "newly nationalised industry" and gives details of how the station was built. This is probably a duplicate of item 1440.22 - date is 1948. <br/> <br/>"Britain Prepares for Cold Snap". A man chops up tinder wood. Woman leans out of house window beckoning someone in. She pulls her dressing gown around her neck as if feeling the cold. Man builds an outside fire. Montage showing domestic use of electricity "the inside story of modern man's home": flicking a light switch, lights go on, vacuum cleaner, radio dials turned, ironing, woman putting kettle on as man ties his tie. He flicks a light switch, lights don't go on. Wife picks up the kettle, not working. Bacon in the pan is not cooking. Clock has stopped. Power cut. Exterior and interior of power stations. Man talking on the telephone to Scottish power station. Levers pulled, gauges move. Wife cooks bacon on outside fire, husband looks out of the window as he lathers up for a shave. Wife looks up and smiles. According to old database the location for the husband and wife scenes is Chessington and the power station is St. Paul's. <br/> <br/>Unedited material. C/U of electricity wires, camera pans along to pylons. Shots of electricity pylons from different angles. Construction site - probably Richmond-on-Thames power station. Many men working. Battersea power station. Different views of building under construction and Battersea power station. Inside a control room. Man speaks into telephone. C/U of a voltmeter and other gauges. <br/> <br/>C/Us of various equipment. A frequency meter. Man operates controls in front of a large bank of gauges. Top shot of interior of a power station. C/U of a control being moved between "on load" and "increase load" settings. Man (whose trousers are held up with a tie instead of a belt!) operates controls. Clock. Light goes on. Light switch being flicked. Man checks various gauges and equipment writing results on a large board. <br/> <br/>Vacuum cleaner being used on a very nice 1940s flowery carpet. Radio dials being turned. Lights going on. An iron being used. Woman boiling a kettle, husband comes into the kitchen tying his tie. Woman leans out of a house window and beckons someone inside. She pulls her dressing gown around her as if cold. More gauges. Mute. Unedited material. Cows being milked with a machine - pumps clamped on to their udders. We see the milk being drawn up a pipe into a metal canister. Shot of a man milking cow by hand. We see his concentrated face. Then camera pans down to the udders and the bucket collecting the milk. Ambient sound from the cowshed. No commentary. <br/> <br/>Electricity pylons. Various angles and panning shots. Farm scenes. Cows walking to the milking sheds. C/U of man's face as he milks a cow. C/U of cow's face. C/U of piece of farm machinery in operation. C/U of pigs eating. Country landscapes. Village street. Hardware shop. Liquid being poured through a funnel. Young girl walks out of shop carrying a canister. Elderly woman pours liquid from canister into oil lamp base? Man climbs to top of telegraph pole? Men pull wires for attachment to the poles. Camera follows the wires to the roof of a farmhouse. C/U of electricity controls, substation, switches being flicked, light bulb going on. Man smoking a cigarette works at a lathe. <br/> <br/>Other men using electricity for their work (short shots). Cow shed. Two men chat about the new electric milking machine. The man we saw milking the cows says how good it is. A large group of men use long poles to push telegraph pole (electricity pole) up then fill in the ground around it. Wires are lifted up and attached to the poles. Shot of the farmhouse with electric wires and poles in the foreground. Scenic landscape of the farm and land around it. <br/> <br/>See other records. <br/> <br/>Note: Originally 4 reels, this material has been spliced together. The news items have sound, other material mostly silent with some ambient sound.

b&w - 1940s WWII Newsreel - b&w - 1930s Pre war daily life - moving pov past military cemetery (possibly Arlington, Virginia) - graphic Statue of Liberty hand holds torch - patriotic American scenes - propaganda - Americana - montage of American work force - some brief clips - democratic ideal - democracy - moving pov U.S.A. before WWII - h/a past crowded city street - pedestrians - workers - farmers in field - work on ranch, farm - c/u man at work bench - white collar worker at desk - interior office - architects at draft tables - progress - inventiveness - inventors - technology - c/u lightning rod - cotton gin - c/u telegraph operator - ether - anesthesia - Hospital interior - c/u medical doctor and nurse - c/u rotary printing press - newspaper or magazine printing - c/u telephone - electric welder, sparks - welding - incandescent lamp - light bulb - h/a and w/s naval submarine - sailors - steam turbines air-to-air motor driven airplane - Navy - X-ray tube - gyroscope - compass - woman sews w/ Singer sewing machine - early television set - monitor w/ female dancer on screen - interior home - farm - interior barn - farmer w/ son milk cows, kitten nearby - h/a down to room full of draftsmen - standard of living - w/s city street w/ two lanes of traffic - apartment buildings - cars on road - traffic - parking lot - sanitation - c/u street cleaning machine brushes - street cleaning - food products - jars - fruit on shelves - Velveeta Cheese - Interior grocery store shelves - market - Economic boom - Industrial Revolution - Technology - Economy - The Roaring Twenties - Prosperity

HOUSE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE HEARING Immigration and Agriculture Subcommittee hearing with Arturo Rodriguez, United Farm Workers, Stephen Colbert and others 09:38:33 THIS HEARING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION, 09:38:37 CITIZENSHIP, REFUGEES, BORDER SECURITY AND INTERNATIONAL LAW 09:38:40 WILL COME TO ORDER. WE REVISE THERE IS GREAT PLIGHT 09:38:48 OF MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN AMERICA. 09:38:50 WE ASK THE PRESS ACTUALLY PULL BACK FROM THE TABLE SO THAT WE 09:38:56 CAN OBSERVE ALL FOUR OF OUR WITNESSES. 09:39:00 AND IF THE PRESS CANNOT DO SO, THEY'LL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE 09:39:07 ROOM. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR 09:39:10 WITNESSES. MEMBERS OF THE IMMIGRATION 09:39:13 SUBCOMMITTEE AND OTHERS WHO JOINED US TODAY TO THE 09:39:16 SUBCOMMITTEE'S HEARING ON PROTECTING AMERICA'S HARVEST. 09:39:19 THE AMERICAN AGRICULTURAL SECTOR HAS LONG SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF 09:39:24 AVAILABLE U.S. WORKERS TO GROW AND PICK AMERICA'S FRUITS AND 09:39:30 V VEGETABLES. 09:39:31 EVEN IN TODAY'S TOP ECONOMIC CLIMATE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR 09:39:34 NOT, INSUFFICIENT AND CONTINUAL NUMBER OF U.S. WORKERS ARE 09:39:40 WILLING TO FILL MANUAL AGRICULTURE JOBS. 09:39:42 AMERICA'S FARMS ARE DEPENDENT ON A RELIABLE WORKFORCE TO PRODUCE 09:39:45 OUR DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLY AND TODAY'S FARMS ARE STRUGGLING TO 09:39:51 STAY IN BUSINESS AS A RESULT OF CURRENT LABOR CHALLENGES. 09:39:54 TODAY'S HEARING, THE LABOR NEEDS OF OUR AGRICULTURAL SECTOR, 09:40:00 ATTEMPT TO RECRUIT WORKERS FOR AGRICULTURAL LABOR, VISA PROGRAM 09:40:05 FOR AGRICULTURAL WORKERS AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. 09:40:08 ONE EXPLANATION FOR WHY AMERICAN WORKERS MAY BE UNWILLING TO 09:40:13 ENGAGE IN MANUAL FARM WORKER WHEN THEY WERE WILLING TO SO 09:40:17 YEARS AGO MAY LIE IN OUR AGRICULTURAL SYSTEM. 09:40:20 IN THE 1940s AND '50s THE NATIVE-BORN WORKFORCE DIDN'T 09:40:26 HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. LAST YEAR THAT NUMBER WAS 5.7%. 09:40:29 IN ANY EVENT, THE DIFFICULT TO OF RECRUITING NATIVE-BORN 09:40:33 WORKERS TO WORK ON FARMS HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY THE UNITED 09:40:36 FORM WORKERS TAKE OUR JOBS PLEASE CAMPAIGN. 09:40:38 THE CAMPAIGN INVITES UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS TO USE THE UFW'S 09:40:45 ASSISTANCE TO OBTAIN EMPLOYMENT AS FARM WORKERS. 09:40:49 YET, ACCORDING TO UFW, EVEN IN THE PERIOD OF HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT 09:40:52 ACROSS ALL EDUCATIONAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC SECTORS OF OUR 09:40:57 SOCIETY, ONLY SEVEN U.S. WORKERS HAVE AGREED TO ACTUALLY WORK IN 09:41:01 THE FIELDS AS OF TODAY. I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME ADVOCATE 09:41:04 FOR FARM WORKERS AND GROWERS. WHEN I WAS ON THE SANTA CLARA 09:41:09 COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE 1980s I WORKED CLOSELY WITH 09:41:13 THE UNITED FARM WORKERS AND FARM BUREAU. 09:41:16 I SPENT TIME AT MANY FARMS. RECENTLY I SPENT THE DAY PICKING 09:41:22 STRAWBERRIES AT A FARM NEAR MY DISTRICT. 09:41:25 UFW INVITED ME TO SPEND A DAY PICKING VEGETABLES AT A FARM IN 09:41:29 NEW YORK WITH STEPHEN COLBERT. I WANT TO THANK ARTURO RODRIGUEZ 09:41:35 FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I WOULD 09:41:37 LIKE TO ADMONISH THE AUDIENCE BEFORE I CONTINUE MY STATEMENT, 09:41:42 THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN ORDER AND DECORUM THROUGHOUT THESE 09:41:46 PROCEEDINGS AND TO THAT END, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF THE 09:41:49 VISITORS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY 09:41:53 MANIFESTATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THESE PROCEEDINGS 09:41:57 OR ANY OTHER DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS. IF NECESSARY, THE CAPITOL POLICE 09:42:02 ARE HERE TO REMOVE ANYONE WHO DISRUPTS THE HEARING. 09:42:06 WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY. 09:42:08 PART OF WHAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS WITHOUT A 09:42:11 SUFFICIENT U.S. LABOR FORCE U.S. FARMERS HAVE INCREASINGLY RELIED 09:42:15 ON UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS. ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF 09:42:18 LABOR, OVER 50% OF ALL SEASONAL AGRICULTURAL WORKERS ARE 09:42:24 UNDOCUMENTED. EXPERTS BELIEVE DUE TO 09:42:27 UNDERREPORTING THAT NUMBER MAY ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO 75%. 09:42:30 CRITICS ARGUE THAT THE SHORTAGE OF U.S. AGRICULTURAL WORKERS 09:42:33 COULD BE SOLVED BY SIMPLY INCREASING WAGES AND WORKING 09:42:37 CONDITIONS. AS A LONGTIME AND ARDENT 09:42:40 SUPPORTER OF FARM WORKERS I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER. 09:42:43 WE MUST ALSO FACE THE REALITY THE NATION'S GROWERS COMPETE 09:42:46 WITH FARMERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS INCREASINGLY 09:42:49 GLOBALIZED WORLD. INCREASING WAGES AND BENEFITS IN 09:42:53 AN AMOUNT NECESSARY TO ATTRACT BILLIONS OF EDUCATED U.S. 09:42:58 WORKERS TO THE FIELDS WOULD MEAN INCREASED PRODUCTION COST THAT 09:43:02 COULD RENDER U.S. FOOD PRODUCTS UNCOMPETITIVE WITH IMPORTED 09:43:06 PRODUCTS. AMERICAN FARMS WOULD THEN CLOSE 09:43:08 IN TURN RESULTING IN THE MASS OFFSHORING OF TENS OF MILLIONS 09:43:12 OF AGRICULTURE AND RELATED JOBS. INDEED, THIS IS ALREADY 09:43:17 HAPPENING. BETWEEN 2007 AND 2008, 1.56 09:43:22 MILLION ACRES OF U.S. FARMLAND WERE SHUT DOWN. 09:43:27 MANY OF THESE FARMS MOVED TO MEXICO. 09:43:31 WHEN FARMS CLOSE OUR COUNTRY SUFFERS. 09:43:33 NOT ONLY DO WE LOSE THE JOBS FILLED BY THOSE WHO WORK IN THE 09:43:38 FIELDS BUT LOSE THE MILLIONS OF UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM JOBS 09:43:41 CONNECTED TO THOSE JOBS WHETHER IT'S PROCESSING, PACKAGING, 09:43:44 TRANSPORTATION, SEED TRUX, MANUFACTURING, ACCOUNTING, 09:43:47 ADVERTISING. THESE JOBS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY 09:43:49 FILLED BY U.S. WORKERS. YET THESE JOBS DISAPPEAR, TOO, 09:43:53 WHEN FARMS ARE CLOSED. ECONOMISTS BELIEVE THAT FOR 09:43:56 EVERY FARM JOB LOST, THE U.S. LOSES ANOTHER 3.1 COMPLEMENTARY 09:44:05 JOBS. ASIDE FROM THE LOSS OF 09:44:11 MILLIONS -- THE TRUTH IS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY DEPENDS ON OUR 09:44:12 ABILITY TO PRODUCE A STABLE DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLY. 09:44:15 LIKE OIL, THE MORE WE RELY ON OTHER COUNTRIES FOR OUR FOOD 09:44:21 SUPPLY, THE MORE WE FALL VICTIM TO AN INCREASED TRADE DEBT, 09:44:25 SCARCITY IN TIMES OF DROUGHT, FLUCTUATING EXTERNAL MARKET 09:44:29 PRICES AND POLITICAL PRESSURE. WE WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE 09:44:32 POSSIBILITY OF FOOD-BORN ILLNESSES AND TERRORIST ATTACKS 09:44:34 THROUGH OUR NATION'S FOOD SUPPLY. 09:44:35 THE PLAIN TRUTH IS FOOD SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY. 09:44:39 AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD TO STOP PRODUCING ITS OWN FOOD SUPPLY 09:44:42 ANDBY NEED THE LABOR FORCE TO DO SO. 09:44:45 TODAY WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR PANEL OF WITNESSES TO BETTER 09:44:49 UNDERSTAND THIS COMPLEX AND VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR AMERICANS. 09:44:52 AMERICAN JOBS, OUR ECONOMY, AND OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. 09:44:56 PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA SPOTLIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL ABILITY TO FOCUS 09:45:00 PUBLIC OPINION ON AN ISSUE. WHETHER IT'S BONO TALKING ABOUT 09:45:05 THIRD WORLD POVERTY OR ANGELINA JOLIE ADVOCATING FOR PROTECTING 09:45:09 CHILDREN AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING, THE POWER OF MEDIA 09:45:13 FIGURES TO USE THEIR CELEBRITY TO FOCUS ATTENTION ON A CENTRAL 09:45:17 PUBLIC ISSUES IS WELL KNOWN AND WELL REGARDED. 09:45:20 I'M HAPPY THAT STEPHEN COLBERT OF THE "COLBERT REPORT" HAS 09:45:25 JOINED THAT GROUP OF CELEBRITIES WHO WILL USE THEIR MEDIA 09:45:28 POSITION TO BENEFIT OTHERS. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MR. 09:45:32 COLBERT'S WRITTEN TESTIMONY, HE'S TAKEN THE TIME TO WALK IN 09:45:35 THE SHOES OF MIGRANT FARM WORKERS AND URGES REFORM OF OUR 09:45:40 IMMIGRATION LAWS. HAPPY THE UNITED FARM WORKERS 09:45:44 HELPED INTRODUCE ME TO MR. COLBERT WHO I HAD NOT MET BEFORE 09:45:48 SO WE COULD SPEND A DAY ON THE FARM TOGETHER. 09:45:50 HIS ACTIONS ARE GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW USING LEVITY AND FAME HE CAN 09:45:57 BRING ATTENTION TO THE GOOD OF THE NATION. 09:46:00 I APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR WITNESS'ESTS TO BE WITH US TODAY 09:46:05 AND THEIR LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA. 09:46:06 I HOPE TOGETHER WE CAN FIND SOLUTIONS TO THESE PRESSING 09:46:09 PROBLEMS. I WOULD RECOGNIZE OUR 09:46:11 DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER STEVE KING FOR HIS OPENING 09:46:15 STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. 09:46:17 I APPRECIATE BEING RECOGNIZED. A THOUGHT THAT COMES TO MIND, 09:46:21 I'M WONDERING HOW THE ESKIMOS GOT ALONG WITHOUT FRESH FRUITS 09:46:27 AND VEGETABLES IF IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. 09:46:29 BEFORE WE START THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PANEL, I'D LIKE TO 09:46:32 FOCUS MY REMARKS ON PROTECTING AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:46:35 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF OUR IMMIGRATION 09:46:39 LAWS IN TODAY'S JOBS, DEPRESSION, HAVE FORMED A 09:46:42 PERFECT STORM FOR HURTING AMERICANS. 09:46:44 THE MOST IMPORTANT DUTY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS WE ENSURE OUR 09:46:46 NATION'S IMMIGRATION POLICY LIFTS UP AMERICANS AND NOT HOLDS 09:46:50 THEM DOWN. I FIND IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY 09:46:52 SOME PEOPLE CARELESSLY CLAIM THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO HARD 09:46:56 WORK. I FIND THIS CLAIM INSULTING AS I 09:46:58 AM SURE MOST HARDWORKING AMERICANS DO. 09:47:01 IT'S MOST INSULTING TO THOSE BRAVE AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO 09:47:04 VOLUNTARILY RISK THEIR LIVES TO DEFEND OUR FREEDOM AND WAY OF 09:47:07 LIFE EVERY DAY. THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT TAKE ON 09:47:10 TERRORISTS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. 09:47:11 TREK FOR MILES ACROSS THE DESERT WITH 70 OR MORE POUNDS OF GEAR 09:47:15 IN 100-PLUS DEGREE TEMPERATURES FOR ABOUT $8.09 AN HOUR. 09:47:20 THAT INCLUDES THE MARINES. MAYBE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING LESS 09:47:25 TIME WATCHING "COMEDY CENTRAL" AND MORE TIME CONSIDERING THE 09:47:27 REAL JOBS OUT THERE, ONES THAT REQUIRE REAL HARD LABOR AND 09:47:32 DON'T INVOLVE SITTING BEHIND A DESK. 09:47:33 WE WOULD REALIZE EVERY DAY AMERICAN WORKERS PERFORM THE 09:47:36 DIRTIEST, MOST DIFFICULT, MOST DANGEROUS JOBS THAT CAN BE 09:47:39 THROWN AT THEM. FROM CRAB FISHERMEN TO VENTURE 09:47:41 INTO THE ROUGHEST AND MOST DANGEROUS WATERS IN THE WORLD TO 09:47:44 THE JOE THE PLUMBERS OF THE WORLD WHO MANY DAYS WOULD PREFER 09:47:49 THE AROMA OF FRESH DIRT TO THAT OF THE SEWAGE FROM AMERICAN 09:47:54 ELITISTS WHO DISPARAGE THEM EVEN AS THEY FLUSH. 09:47:57 THESE ARE REAL AMERICANS DOING REAL JOBS, TASKS THAT SIMPLY 09:48:02 MUST GET DONE. WHEN AMERICAN WORKERS ARE 09:48:05 TREATED WITH RESPECT AND PAID FOR THE LABOR THEY'LL DO ANY JOB 09:48:08 AND OUTWORK ANYONE ON EARTH. AMERICA'S SPIRIT IS HARD WORKING 09:48:13 AND SO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO COMPRISE THIS NATION. 09:48:16 I REPRESENT A RURAL DISTRICT MADE UP OF FARMERS IN FARM 09:48:19 COMMUNITIES AND THE PEOPLE OF IOWA KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO 09:48:22 MANAGE AND EFFECTIVELY ONE A FARM. 09:48:24 ONE ISSUE WITH ATTRACTING MORE AMERICAN WORKERS TO SEASONAL 09:48:28 AGRICULTURAL LABOR IS MOST MIGRANT FARMERS -- THE 09:48:38 DEVASTATING IMPACT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION HAS ON AMERICAN FARM 09:48:41 WORKERS. OF COURSE IT IS ARGUED BY TOM 09:48:44 VILSACK, PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, THAT 09:48:46 FOOD PRICES WOULD BE THREE, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES MORE IF IT WERE 09:48:50 NOT FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS. 09:48:53 THIS IS BLATANTLY FALSE AND CAN'T BE SUPPORTED BY ANY DATA. 09:48:58 DOESN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DEFEND HIMSELF. 09:48:59 DATE TO FROM THE SECRETARY'S OWN DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SHOWS 09:49:03 LABOR COSTS ONLY REPRESENT 6% OF THE PRICE CONSUMERS PAY FOR 09:49:07 FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. DOUBLE THE PAY OF WORKERS AND 09:49:10 SEE ONLY A 6% INCREASE IN CONSUMER PRICES. 09:49:14 HIGHLY RESPECTED AGRICULTURAL ECONOMIST PHILLIP MARTIN OF THE 09:49:17 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA NOTES IF THERE WAS A 40% INCREASE IN 09:49:20 FARM WAGES THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WOULD ONLY SPEND $8 MORE A YEAR 09:49:25 ON FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, LESS THAN THE PRICE OF A MOVIE 09:49:30 TICKET. MOST AMERICANS WOULD PAY $8 MORE 09:49:32 A YEAR IN ORDER TO ENSURE A LEGAL WORKFORCE. 09:49:34 CHEAP LABOR IS NOT WORTH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'S COST TO AMERICANS 09:49:37 AS WORKERS OR TAXPAYERS. THE REALITY IS, EMPLOYERS HIRE 09:49:42 DESPERATE ALIENS WHO WILL WORK FOR MUCH LESS THAN AMERICANS, 09:49:45 DRIVING WAGES DOWN AND MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR AMERICAN WORKERS 09:49:49 TO COMPETE. AS RANKING MEMBER SMITH HAS 09:49:51 POINTED OUT, MANY TIMES IN THE PAST THERE ARE 8 MILLION ILLEGAL 09:49:55 IMMIGRANTS IN THE WORKFORCE COMPETING AGAINST THE 15.4 09:50:00 MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE OFFICIALLY COUNTED AS 09:50:04 UNEMPLOYED, WHICH INCLUDES THE 80 MILLION WHO ARE SIMPLY NOT IN 09:50:09 THE WORKFORCE BECAUSE THEY'VE DROPPED OUT AND ARE NO 09:50:11 LOOKING FOR JOBS AND THEY ARE OF WORKING AGE. 09:50:13 AMERICANS HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR THOSE JOBS BECAUSE WAGES 09:50:17 HAVE BEEN DEPRESSED AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES ELIMINATED BY LOW 09:50:20 SKILLED AND VERY MOBILE IMMIGRATION. 09:50:22 THE PERCENT OF TEENAGERS WHO WORK HAS NEVER BEEN LOWER. 09:50:26 PROFESSOR CAROL SWAIN WILL TESTIFY TODAY ABOUT THE TOLL 09:50:29 MASS IMMIGRATION HAS TAKEN ON MINORITY COMMUNITIES. 09:50:32 WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT ALL OF THIS STARTED LAPPING 09:50:35 WELL BEFORE THE RECESSION. PROFESSOR GEORGE BORHAUS DID 09:50:41 GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH ON THE IMPACT OF IMMIGRATION IN THE 09:50:44 1980s AND '90s ON LOW SKILLED AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:50:48 PROFESSORS ANDREW SUM AND PAUL HARRINGTON AND OTHER RESEARCHERS 09:50:51 AT THE LABOR MARKET STUDIES AT NORTHEASTERN FOUND IN 2005 THAT 09:50:55 GIVEN AND I QUOTE GIVEN LARGE JOB LOSSES AMONG THE NATION'S 09:51:00 TEENS, 20 TO 24-YEAR-OLDS WITH NO FOUR-YEAR DEGREES AND NATIVE 09:51:05 BORN MEN IT IS CLEAR THAT NATIVE BORN WORKERS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED 09:51:09 IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION." 09:51:12 IT'S AMAZING TO ME THAT AMNESTY ADVOCATES SIMPLY IGNORE THE 80 09:51:17 MILLION LABOR POOL. WE CAN EITHER FEED, CHOET AND 09:51:20 HOUSE THEM OR PUT THEM TO WORK TO FEED AND CLOTHE THE WORLD. 09:51:24 THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS ONLY MAGNIFIES THE IMPACT ON AMERICAN 09:51:28 FAMILIES BUT UNLESS OUR POLICIES ARE CHANGED AMERICAN WORKERS AND 09:51:31 FAMILIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNDERMINED EVEN AFTER THE 09:51:34 ECONOMY TURNS THE CORNER. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION FOUND 09:51:38 THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD HEADED BY AN IMMIGRANT HOUSEHOLD 09:51:42 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE RECEIVES OVER $19,000 IN TOTAL 09:51:46 GOVERNMENT BENEFITS MORE THAN THEY PAY IN TAXES FROM FEDERAL, 09:51:49 STATE AND LOCAL. CHEAP LABOR? 09:51:52 AND I THINK ABOUT THE DAY THAT I HAD TO SWIM OUT INTO A SEWER 09:51:57 LAGOON AND DIVE INTO NINE FEET OF FLUID TO RETRIEVE A PUMP AND 09:52:01 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE DAY THAT IT WAS 20 BELOW AND I'M IN THE 09:52:04 WATER FIXING A WATER LINE IN THE WARMEST PLACE THERE WAS IN THE 09:52:09 WATER, THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE IN MY LIFE IN THE CONSTRUCTION 09:52:12 BUSINESS AND WORK WE'VE PUT OUR WORKERS THROUGH IN THE PRIDE 09:52:15 WITH WHICH THEY TAKE, IT MEANS THAT IT'S AN INSULT TO ME TO 09:52:18 HEAR THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO THIS WORK. 09:52:19 I CAN'T THINK OF A JOB THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO DO AND 09:52:22 I CAN'T THINK OF AN EMPLOYEE THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE 28 YEARS 09:52:25 IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS THAT REFUSED TO DO THE WORK THAT 09:52:28 WAS NECESSARY. AMERICANS WILL DO THAT WORK BUT 09:52:30 THEY WANT TO BE PAID A RESPECTABLE WAGE FOR IT. 09:52:32 I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TESTIMONY, MADAM CHAIR AND YIELD BACK THE 09:52:36 BALANCE OF MY TIME. WITH THE AGREEMENT OF THE 09:52:43 MINORITY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE AUTHOR OF THE AG JOBS BILL, 09:52:47 MR. BERMAN FOR HIS STATEMENT AND THEN MR. SMITH AND MR. CONNERS 09:52:52 WILL GIVE THEIR OPENING STATEMENTS. 09:52:54 MR. BERMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 09:52:57 CHAIR AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING A HEARING WHICH 09:53:01 PERHAPS LIKE FEW OTHERS WILL HIGHLIGHT THE CONDITIONS OF 09:53:07 MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY AND TURN ATTENTION TO 09:53:12 THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. I THANK BOTH THE CHAIR AND 09:53:16 RANKING MEMBER AND FULL COMMITTEE FOR ALLOWING TO GO. 09:53:19 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR 40 YEARS AND 09:53:27 IN THE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE EACH SESSION INTRODUCED BIPARTISAN 09:53:32 LEGISLATION TO TRY AND DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. 09:53:38 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I CHAIR ANOTHER COMMITTEE, I HAVE A 09:53:41 HEARING AT 10:00 AND SO I APPRECIATE THE COURTESIES 09:53:46 EXTENDED TO LET ME JUMP IN LINE HERE. 09:53:49 I'M GOING TO FORGO MY PREPARED OPENING STATEMENT BUT I SIMPLY 09:53:55 MUST RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS OF THE RANKING MEMBER, MY FRIEND 09:53:59 THE RANKING MEMBER ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. 09:54:04 THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE CHAIR SAID -- THERE IS NOTHING 09:54:08 IMPLICIT IN THE TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN EXPLICIT OR IMPLICIT 09:54:14 THAT SAID AMERICANS AREN'T DOING HARD WORK AND IF THE GENTLEMAN 09:54:20 FROM IOWA WERE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONDITIONS ON THE 09:54:28 FARMS AND THE WAGES, I WOULD HAVE NOTICED MORE ACTIVITY TO 09:54:33 ENSURE THAT A NUMBER OF THE LAWS THAT APPLY TO ALL OTHER WORKERS 09:54:36 IN AMERICA APPLY WITH EQUAL FORCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO PICK OUR 09:54:42 FRUITS AND VEGETABLES IN THIS COUNTRY. 09:54:44 I WOULD SEE AN EFFORT TO PUSH GREATER APPROPRIATIONS AND 09:54:48 GREATER FUNDING FOR PEOPLE TO MONITOR THE WORKING CONDITIONS 09:54:51 ON OUR FARMS. I'D SEE AN EFFORT TO TRY AND GET 09:54:54 THE RIGHTS THAT ALL OTHER WORKERS HAVE TO COLLECTIVE 09:54:58 BARGAINING EXTENDED TO FARM WORKERS WHO ARE EXCLUDED FROM 09:55:01 OUR NATIONAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LEGISLATION. 09:55:04 THE FACT IS THAT WHILE AMERICANS OVER AND OVER AGAIN HAVE 09:55:10 PRODUCED BOTH THEIR -- HAVE SHOWN BOTH THEIR COURAGE AND 09:55:13 THEIR WILLINGNESS TO UNDERTAKE TERRIBLY DIFFICULT JOBS, JOBS 09:55:17 THAT I WOULD DARE TO SAY THE PEOPLE ON THIS PODIUM INCLUDING 09:55:22 MYSELF WOULD BE VERY RELUCTANT TO TAKE STUDY AFTER STUDY 09:55:28 INCLUDING STUDIES AT THE TIME OF WELFARE REFORM WHERE HUGE 09:55:32 NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE FORCED OFF OF THE WELFARE 09:55:37 R ROLLS AND COUNTIES WHERE 09:55:39 UNEMPLOYMENT WAS TWO OR THREE TIMES THE AVERAGE OF THE COUNTRY 09:55:46 GENERALLY, PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE NO INCOME AND NO WELFARE 09:55:51 THAN TAKE THE BACK-BREAKING JOBS THAT THE MIGRANT FARM WORKER HAS 09:55:58 TO DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. 09:56:02 YOU CAN TRY AND CHEAP SEAT IT ALL YOU WANT, BUT WE KNOW THAT 09:56:08 WERE IT NOT FOR IMMIGRANT FARM WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY THERE 09:56:14 WOULD BE NO SEASONAL FRESH FRUIT AND VEGETABLE INDUSTRY AND I 09:56:19 JOIN THE GENTLEMAN WANTING BETTER WAGES AND BETTER WORKING 09:56:23 CONDITIONS AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY AND 09:56:26 IMPROVE THOSE CONDITIONS, BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, STUDY 09:56:29 AFTER STUDY HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THESE JOBS ARE NOT TAKEN BY 09:56:35 U.S. WORKERS EVEN WHEN UNEMPLOYED, EVEN WHEN HAVING NO 09:56:39 OTHER SIGNIFICANT MEANS OF SUPPORT. 09:56:41 AND NOTHING THAT -- NO RHETORICAL FLOURISHES CAN HIDE 09:56:46 THAT FACT. I COMMEND THE GENTLE LADY FOR 09:56:50 HOLDING THIS HEARING. I WANT TO PAY A SPECIAL 09:56:52 RECOGNITION FOR MY DEAR FRIEND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM 09:56:56 WORKERS UNION, ARTURO RODRIGUEZ AND THE OTHER WITNESSES, AS WELL 09:57:00 AND APOLOGIZE FOR -- I HOPE TO COME BACK WHEN MY HEARING IS 09:57:04 OVER BUT NOT TO BE HERE FOR THE ENTIRE HEARING. 09:57:07 I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. BERMAN. 09:57:09 WE WOULD NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL 09:57:11 COMMITTEE MR. SMITH FOR HIS OPENING STATEMENT AND HE WILL BE 09:57:16 FOLLOWED BY MR. CONYERS AND THEN JUST TO KEEP IT EVEN WE'LL 09:57:21 INVITE MR. LUNDGREN TO HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND OTHERS 09:57:25 WILL BE INVITED TO SUBMIT OPENING STATEMENTS. 09:57:28 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AMERICAN WORKERS FACE TOUGH 09:57:32 ECONOMIC TIMES. WITH UNEMPLOYMENT ALMOST 10% FOR 09:57:35 THE FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION, JOBS HAVE BECOME SCARCE AND 09:57:39 MILLIONS OF FAMILIES ARE HURTING. 09:57:42 THE PEW HISPANIC CENTER ESTIMATES THERE ARE MORE THAN 7 09:57:46 MILLION ILLEGAL WORKERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 09:57:50 ALEXANDER ALANAKOFF, I.N.S. OFFICIAL AND HIGH COMMISSIONER 09:57:55 FOR REFUGEES CALLS IT A MYTH THAT THERE ARE LITTLE OR NO 09:58:00 COMPETITION BETWEEN UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS AND AMERICAN WORKERS. 09:58:04 THIS COMPETITION HAS HAD DEVASTATING EFFECTS ON THE MOST 09:58:07 VULNERABLE OF AMERICANS. OVER 32% OF NATIVE-BORN WORKERS 09:58:12 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE ARE EITHER UNEMPLOYED, FORCED TO 09:58:15 WORK PART TIME OR TOO DISCOURAGED TO EVEN LOOK FOR 09:58:19 WORK. FOR NATIVE BORN HISPANICS 09:58:21 WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE, THE RATE IS 35%. 09:58:25 FOR NATIVE BORN AFRICAN-AMERICANS WITHOUT A HIGH 09:58:27 SCHOOL DEGREE, THE RATE IS 43%. WE COULD MAKE MILLIONS OF JOBS 09:58:34 AVAILABLE TO AMERICAN CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS IF THE 09:58:37 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SIMPLY ENFORCED OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. 09:58:41 ABOUT HALF OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. 09:58:46 SO THAT MEANS THAT A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF LEGAL WORKERS, LABOR 09:58:51 IN THE FIELDS, PERHAPS AS MANY AS HALF. 09:58:54 CERTAINLY EVEN MORE WOULD TAKE THESE JOBS IF THE WAGES AND 09:58:57 WORKING CONDITIONS WERE BETTER. THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS WE HAVE 09:59:01 TO SAVE JOBS FOR AMERICANS ARE 10:00:00 LAMARR SMITH: FINES JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. 10:00:01 AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ILLEGAL WORKERS? 10:00:03 THEY WALK DOWN THE STREET AND TAKE ANOTHER JOB THAT COULD HAVE 10:00:07 GONE TO AN AMERICAN WORKER. CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS 10:00:11 SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO COMPETE WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOR 10:00:15 SCARCE JOBS. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SHOULD 10:00:18 PUT THE INTEREST OF AMERICAN WORKERS FIRST. 10:00:21 LET ME POINT OUT THAT ONE WITNESS, STEPHEN COLBERT, HAS 10:00:25 SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE ISSUE OF JOBS AMERICANS SUPPOSEDLY WON'T 10:00:29 DO. A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN DEBATING 10:00:31 HIMSELF ON HIS SHOW, HE ASKED, "DON'T WE WANT TO HAVE CHEAP 10:00:35 LABOR FOR ALL THE JOBS WE DON'T WANT TO DO" HE RESPONDED, "YEAH, 10:00:41 UNLESS YOU'RE AN AMERICAN LANDSCAPER OR AN AMERICAN 10:00:45 CONSTRUCTION WORKER." THEN HE ADDED "BUT I AM AN 10:00:48 AMERICAN TV HOST. MY JOB IS SAFE." 10:00:51 MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WISH THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPETE WITH 10:00:54 CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR AND HAD SUCH A SAFE JOB. 10:00:59 UNFORTUNATELY, 17 MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS ARE OUT OF JOBS 10:01:03 OR HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR WORK. 10:01:05 IT'S NO LAUGHING MATTER TO PRETEND THAT AMERICANS DON'T 10:01:07 WANT JOBS. PAY THEM MORE IF NEEDED BUT 10:01:11 DON'T INSULT AMERICAN WORKERS BY TELLING THEM THE GOVERNMENT 10:01:13 CARES MORE ABOUT ILLEGAL WORKERS THAN U.S. CITIZENS. 10:01:18 I THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND YIELD BACK. 10:01:20 THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. MR. CONYERS WOULD BE RECOGNIZED 10:01:25 FOR ANY OPENING STATEMENT HE MAY WISH TO GIVE AT THIS TIME. 10:01:29 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT HERE. 10:01:35 I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO MY GOOD FRIEND THE RANKING MEMBER STEVE 10:01:40 KING THAT WE FORMED THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN GET 10:01:46 EVERYBODY TO WORK VERY QUICKLY BETWEEN YOU AND I, WE COULD 10:01:53 PROBABLY RECRUIT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SOLVE 10:01:59 THIS PROBLEM EVEN THOUGH THE FARM WORKERS COULDN'T DO IT, 10:02:04 SENATOR FEINSTEIN WASN'T TOO SUCCESSFUL AND YOU SAY IT'S 10:02:08 PRETTY EASY, SO I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS. 10:02:11 WHAT DO YOU SAY? MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE 10:02:15 YOU YIELDING TO ME AND I HAVE RECRUITED FARM WORKERS AND HIRED 10:02:19 THEM AND PAID THEM SO WHAT I HAD HAD TO DO WAS RAISE THE WAGES 10:02:23 AND BENEFITS IN ORDER TO ATTRACT PEOPLE AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE 10:02:27 MIGRANT, THE OKEYS WENT TO CALIFORNIA FOR JOBS AND SO IF 10:02:29 YOU OFFER THE WAGES AND THE MARKET AND DEMAND WE'LL PROVIDE 10:02:34 THE VALUE THEN THE WORKERS WILL SHOW UP. 10:02:36 THE LEGAL WORKERS WILL SHOW UP. SO THE ANSWER IS, YES. 10:02:40 I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONSIDER THAT 10:02:43 LABOR IS THE COMMODITY LIKE CORN OR BEANS OR TOMATOES AND THAT A 10:02:47 SUPPLY AND DEMAND ESTABLISHES ITS VALUE IN THE MARKETPLACE. 10:02:51 AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THEM BEING 10:02:55 ORGANIZED MEMBERS OF A UNION. I THINK IF YOU WANT TO MARKET 10:03:00 YOUR SKILLS YOU DO IT THE BEST WAY YOU CAN MARKET YOUR SKILLS. 10:03:03 RIGHT, WELL, THANKS A LOT. I'LL SEE YOU AFTER THE HEARING. JOHN CONYERS EXCHANGE WITH STEPHEN COLBERT 10:03:09 WE'LL GET STARTED. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, 10:03:11 MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. 10:03:14 AND NOW TO STEPHEN COLBERT, WHO I ENJOY AND HAVE FOR MANY YEARS. 10:03:22 I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE HELPED US FILL THE ROOM AND I 10:03:27 HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY CAMERAS SINCE WHEN, MADAM CHAIR? 10:03:32 BEEN A WHILE. MAYBE IT WAS IMPEACHMENT BUT 10:03:34 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS KIND OF COVERAGE. 10:03:41 THAT'S A HAUNTING REMEMBRANCE. 10:03:45 NOW, HERE'S WHAT I SUGGEST SO THAT OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES 10:03:52 CAN -- WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. 10:03:58 MR. COLBERT HAS PRESENTED US WITH A FINE STATEMENT. 10:04:03 IT'LL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. 10:04:05 HE'S GOT A HUGE MARCH COMING ON OCTOBER 30th, SATURDAY, HERE IN 10:04:14 WASHINGTON, WHICH MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AT. 10:04:19 I KNOW I'VE GOT A VERY GOOD FEELING ABOUT THAT. 10:04:24 I'LL BE BUSY WORKING IN MICHIGAN TRYING TO TURN OUT THE VOTE. 10:04:30 WE'VE BEEN HAVING A VERY LOW VOTER TURNOUT, SO THAT'S THE 10:04:35 ONLY REASON I WON'T BE WITH YOU IN THE MARCH. 10:04:39 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THIS 10:04:45 ATTENTION, THAT YOU EXCUSE YOURSELF AND THAT YOU LET US GET 10:04:51 ON WITH THE THREE WITNESSES AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS THERE AND 10:05:02 WE'RE SURE IT WILL BE SHOWN ON THE SHOW TONIGHT AND MAYBE 10:05:08 MONDAY -- I DON'T KNOW. YOU RUN YOUR SHOW. 10:05:13 WE RUN THE COMMITTEE. BUT WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT, 10:05:19 STEPHEN? YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION? 10:05:21 I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE 10:05:24 QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS THAT -- I'M NOT 10:05:29 ASKING YOU NOT TO TALK. I'M ASKING YOU TO LEAVE THE 10:05:32 COMMITTEE ROOM COMPLETELY AND SUBMIT YOUR STATEMENT INSTEAD. 10:05:42 MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. 10:05:44 I'M WONDERING IF SINCE MR. COLBERT'S MICROPHONE ISN'T ON 10:05:52 AND CAN'T BE HEARD WHETHER HAVING POSED THE QUESTION WE 10:05:55 COULD LISTEN TO MR. LUNDGREN AND MR. COLBERT CAN PONDER WHAT 10:06:00 YOU'VE SAID. I THINK MANY ARE EAGER TO HEAR 10:06:02 HIS COMMENTS THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. 10:06:12 I'M HERE AT THE INVITATION OF THE CAN CHAIRWOMAN AND IF SHE 10:06:16 WOULD LIKE ME TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE HEARING ROOM, I'M HAPPY 10:06:19 TO DO SO. I'M ONLY HERE AT HER INVITATION. 10:06:22 THAT DID CORRECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:06:23 THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS 10:06:25 EXPIRED. WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM 10:06:31 MR. LUNDGREN WHO WILL MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND THEN IN 10:06:35 THE INTEREST OF PROCEEDING TO OUR WITNESSES, WE WILL INVITE 10:06:39 OTHER MEMBERS TO SUBMIT THEIR STATEMENTS FOR THE RECORD. 10:06:43 MR. LUPDZ DREN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 10:06:44 CHAIR. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE 10:06:49 FOR SOME 30 YEARS. I CONFESS THAT I WAS THE 10:06:55 REPUBLICAN FLOOR MANAGER FOR THE SIMPSON MASOLI BILL. 10:06:59 I THOUGHT AT THAT TIME WE HAD PRESENTED A REASONABLE SOLUTION 10:07:03 TO THE PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN THIS COUNTRY. 10:07:08 UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE THE LEGALIZATION PROGRAM WHICH WAS 10:07:10 SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE-TIME ONLY PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL, THERE 10:07:14 WAS A TOTAL FAILURE WITH RESPECT TO ENFORCEMENT. 10:07:19 WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT LAW THE SAW RAW PROGRAM, SEASONAL 10:07:26 AGRICULTURAL WORKER PROGRAM AND R 10:07:31 REPLENISHMENT WORKER PROGRAM BOTH OF WHICH WERE RIDDLED WITH 10:07:35 FRAUD. WHICH SOME OF US SUGGESTED WOULD 10:07:38 HAPPEN WHEN WE AOPPOSED THAT SECTION OF THE BILL. 10:07:44 SINCE THAT TIME AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT BY THE 10:07:48 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE SEEN A CONTINUATION OF THE FLOW OF 10:07:51 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OF THIS COUNTRY SO THAT IT IS OF A 10:07:53 LARGER DIMENSION THAN IT WAS BACK IN THE 1980s. 10:07:57 AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAD THE HIGHEST RATE OF UNEMPLOYMENT I 10:08:01 BELIEVE IN MY ADULT LIFETIME AND IN MY DISTRICT WE HAVE A HIGHER 10:08:06 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHICH HAS A HIGHER 10:08:09 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAN ALL BUT TWO STATES. 10:08:13 IT IS A SEVERE PROBLEM. I HAVE AGRICULTURE IN MY 10:08:18 DISTRICT AND I HAVE URBAN AREAS IN MY DISTRICT. 10:08:23 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE OUGHT TO BE -- WE OUGHT TO PUT ALL THE 10:08:31 FACTS ON THE TABLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE 10:08:34 DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF OUR ECONOMY MOST OF WHICH IN MY 10:08:40 OPINION CAN SUCCESSFULLY ATTRACT AMERICAN WORKERS. 10:08:43 I SEE NO REASON RIGHT NOW FOR THE PRESUMED OR THE ASSUMED LACK 10:08:51 OF OPPORTUNITY FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN YOUNG MALES IN 10:08:53 THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES. I SEE NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER 10:08:58 THAT IN THE AREA OF CONSTRUCTION OR LANDSCAPING THERE IS A NEED 10:09:02 FOR FOREIGN WORKERS. I THINK THE INTELLIGENT THING 10:09:06 FOR US TO DO IS ESTABLISH LAWS WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO LOOK 10:09:13 ECONOMIC SECTOR BY ECONOMIC SECTOR AND MAKE A DETERMINATION 10:09:16 THROUGH OUR GOVERNMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A NEED 10:09:20 FOR FOREIGN WORKERS. NOW, I'VE NEVER WORKED IN THE 10:09:25 FEELS. I'VE WORKED ON RANCHES, I WORKED 10:09:27 IN CONSTRUCTION AND WORKED IN SHIPYARDS. 10:09:29 IT'S ALL TOUGH WORK. I DOUBT IT IS AS TOUGH AS THE 10:09:32 WORK I HAVE SEEN THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE FARM FIELDS DO. 10:09:39 IT IS REALLY TOUGH WORK. BEING FROM CALIFORNIA, I HAPPEN 10:09:43 TO BELIEVE THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT WE CANNOT ATTRACT 10:09:48 SUFFICIENT AMERICANS FOR AGRICULTURE PURPOSES AND, 10:09:52 THEREFORE, I HAVE ALWAYS SUGGESTED WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH A 10:09:55 PROGRAM THAT WORKS AND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DETERMINE 10:10:00 THROUGH THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS THE CONTOURS OF AND THEN ON AN 10:10:05 ANNUAL BASIS WE MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO HOW MANY 10:10:08 PEOPLE ARE NEEDED IN THIS COUNTRY. 10:10:10 BUT I'M SORRY, MY FRIEND, MR. BERMAN HAS LEFT BECAUSE ONE 10:10:14 OF THE PROBLEMS WITH HIS AG JOBS BILL IS THAT IT GRANTS PEOPLE 10:10:18 THE PATH TO CITIZENSHIP WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY 10:10:23 AS A MAJOR TENANT OF THIS PROGRAM. 10:10:25 I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS 10:10:32 THIS, THERE IS AN ESSENTIAL NOTION IN OUR SOCIETY I BELIEVE 10:10:38 FROM THE TIME WE'RE ON SCHOOL YARDS AND EVEN BEFORE THAT THAT 10:10:42 CUTTING IN LINE IS UNFAIR AND I HAVE TO ASK THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 10:10:47 FROM THE DESCENDING COUNTRIES WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW AND DID NOT 10:10:50 COME INTO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGAL BUT WISH TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY 10:10:53 WHAT DOES IT SAY TO THEM THAT THEY GET PUT BEHIND THOSE THAT 10:10:58 WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW SO ALL I WOULD SAY IS THIS, I THINK 10:11:02 WE CAN REACH A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION TO THIS IF WE 10:11:09 RECOGNIZE THAT ENFORCEMENT IN THE PAST WAS NOT THERE AND, 10:11:12 THEREFORE, ENCOURAGED CONTINUING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. 10:11:16 A FAILURE TO HAVE A WORKABLE TEMPORARY WORKER PROGRAM IS 10:11:24 CAUSE TO SOME OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE AND I THINK THIRDLY 10:11:27 THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN AMNESTY COMPONENT IN A PROGRAM. 10:11:32 THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WE CAN TREAT PEOPLE HUMANELY AND DEAL 10:11:35 WITH THIS PROBLEM WITHOUT THAT BECAUSE I FEAR, MADAM CHAIR THAT 10:11:39 IF WE HAVE THAT AS A COMPONENT OF ANY LEGISLATION WE HAVE, THE 10:11:43 AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT SUPPORT IT AND WE WILL FAIL TO DEAL WITH 10:11:48 A REAL CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE CONFRONTING US TODAY. 10:11:54 AMONG ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WE ALWAYS SEE THAT WE ALSO 10:11:58 HAVE THE BACKDROP OF THE THREAT OF TERRORISM TODAY. 10:12:02 AND I AM NOT AND NEVER HAVE SUGGESTED THAT MOST PEOPLE WHO 10:12:05 ARE HERE ILLEGALLY ARE TERRORISTS OR THAT THERE'S A 10:12:07 LARGE NUMBER OF IT. ALL I SAY IS THE LONGER YOU HAVE 10:12:10 A POROUS BORDER, THE GREATER OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE FOR 10:12:13 TERRORISTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT 10:12:16 WE DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS WE DO TODAY. 10:12:19 WE DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN 1984 OR '86 WHEN WE WERE DEALING 10:12:24 IN THE SIMPSON/MASOLI LEGISLATION. 10:12:29 I WANT THANK MR. COLBERT FOR BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE 10:12:33 QUESTION OF WORKERS IN THE FIELD. 10:12:38 IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO SAY ANYTHING TO HIM BECAUSE YOU'RE 10:12:40 NOT SURE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN RETURN OR WHAT WILL APPEAR ON 10:12:43 TV AND I KNOW HE WOULD NEVER TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT. 10:12:48 SO THAT I GUESS I MIGHT AS WELL QUIT WHILE I'M AHEAD. 10:12:51 THANK YOU AND YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. 10:12:57 WE -- I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PANEL OF WITNESSES BEFORE US 10:13:05 AND I WILL START BY INTRODUCING DR. CAROL M. SWAIN. 10:13:10 PROFESSOR SWAIN IS CURRENTLY A PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE 10:13:13 AND PROFESSOR OF LAW AT VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY AND A 10:13:17 MEMBER OF THE JAMES MADISON SOCIETY OF PRINCETON UNIVERSITY. 10:13:20 SHE RECEIVED HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM ROANOKE COLLEGE AND 10:13:24 HER MASTERS FROM VIRGINIA POLYTECHNICAL INSTITUTE AND 10:13:28 STATE UNIVERSITY. SHE HOLES A Ph.D. FROM THE 10:13:31 UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA AT CHAPEL HILL AND IN 2000 SHE WAS 10:13:35 AWARDED AN MLS FROM YALE LAW SCHOOL. 10:13:38 SHE SPECIALIZENESS RACE RELATIONS AND IMMIGRATION AND IS 10:13:40 THE AUTHOR OF SEVERAL BOOKS INCLUDING HER MOST RECENT 10:13:45 "DEBATING IMMIGRATION: A COLLECTION OF HE SAYS FROM 10:13:48 PROFESSOR SWAIN AND OTHER SCHOLARS ON CONTEMPORARY 10:13:52 IMMIGRATION." NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE 10:13:55 PHIL GLAIZE HE IS A THIRD GENERATION FRUIT GROWER, FORMER 10:13:59 CHAIR OF THE U.S. APPLE ASSOCIATION, A NONPROFIT 10:14:03 MEMBERSHIP ASSOCIATION SERVING THE INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE 10:14:06 AMERICAN APPLE INDUSTRY AND AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE AGRICULTURE 10:14:10 COALITION FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM. 10:14:13 U.S. APPLE REPRESENTS A $2 BILLION INDUSTRY WITH OVER 7500 10:14:19 COMMERCIAL GROWERS NATIONWIDE. MR. GLAIZE'S FAMILY BUSINESSES 10:14:25 GROWS, PACKS AND SHIPS APPLES FOR THE FRESH AND PROCESSED 10:14:27 MARKETS AND HAS BEEN PRODUCING APPLES IN SHENANDOAH IN FRED 10:14:31 KICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA, SINCE THE 1920s. 10:14:34 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR THIRD WITNESS, ARTURO 10:14:38 RODRIGUEZ. SINCE 1993, MR. RODRIGUEZ HAS 10:14:41 SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM WORKERS, THE LARGEST 10:14:44 FARM WORKERS UNION IN THE UNITED STATES FOUNDED BY CAESAR CHAVEZ. 10:14:49 A VETERAN FARM ORGANIZER HE BECAME ACTIVE AS A STUDENT IN 10:14:55 1969 WITH UAW AND HOLDS A MASTERS DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK 10:14:59 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND HAS WORKED FOR THE UAW SINCE 10:15:04 1973. MR. RODRIGUEZ HAS OVER 35 YEARS 10:15:07 OF EXPERIENCE ORGANIZING FARM WORKERS, NEGOTIATING UNION 10:15:11 CONTRACTS AND LEADING FARM WORKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR 10:15:14 FAIR WAGES AND WORKING CONDITIONS. 10:15:17 FINALLY IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE STEPHEN COLBERT, MR. 10:15:22 COLBERT IS THE HOST AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THE EMMY 10:15:24 AWARD AND PEABODY AWARD-WINNING SERIES ON COMEDY CENTRAL 10:15:29 "COLBERT REPORT." THE SERIES WON THE PEABODY AWARD 10:15:31 FOR EXCELLENCE IN BROADCASTING IN 2008 AND HAS GARNERED A TOTAL 10:15:35 OF 15 EMMY NOMINATIONS. MR. COLBERT AND HIS WRITING TEAM 10:15:39 HAVE WON TWO EMMYS FOR OUTSTANDING WRITING FOR A 10:15:43 VARIETY MUSIC OR COMEDY PROGRAM. HE RECENTLY TRAVELED TO AN 10:15:46 UPSTATE NEW YORK VEGETABLE FARM TO EXPERIENCE THE LIFE OF A FARM 10:15:49 WORKER THROUGH THE UNITED FARM WORKERS TAKE OUR JOB INITIATIVE 10:15:53 AND HE HAS ALSO WORKED WITH THE FARM WORKERS TO TRY TO PUBLICIZE 10:15:57 THEIR TAKE OUR JOBS PLEASE CAMPAIGN IN THE EFFORT TO 10:16:02 HIGHLIGHT THE SHORTAGE THAT WE FACE. 10:16:04 NOW, EACH OF YOU HAS PREPARED A WRITTEN STATEMENT. 10:16:08 AND THAT STATEMENT, THOSE WRITTEN STATEMENTS WILL BE MADE 10:16:11 PART OF OUR OFFICIAL RECORD. AT THIS POINT WE WOULD LIKE YOU 10:16:14 TO SUMMARIZE YOUR STATEMENT IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. 10:16:19 THERE ARE LITTLE MACHINES ON THE TABLE. 10:16:20 YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GREEN. 10:16:23 WHEN FOUR MINUTES IS UP THEY'LL TURN YELLOW AND WHEN FIVE 10:16:26 MINUTES IS UP IT'LL BE RED. AND AT THAT POINT WE WOULD LIKE 10:16:32 YOU TO CONCLUDE, NOT MIDSENTENCE BUT SUM UP AND SO THAT ALL OF 10:16:37 THE WITNESSES CAN BE HEARD AND ALSO SO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE 10:16:41 WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS. 10:16:44 FIRST WE WILL GO TO YOU, DR. SWAIN FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. DR SWAIN: 10:16:51 GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO 10:16:55 TESTIFY ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. I SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF 10:17:00 MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMMIGRATION LAWS 10:17:05 VIGOROUSLY ENFORCED. I CONTEND THAT AMERICA DOES NOT 10:17:09 HAVE A SHORTAGE OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS. 10:17:12 INSTEAD WE HAVE A MANUFACTURED CRISIS BY SOME WHO WOULD LIKE TO 10:17:17 ENSURE A STEADY SUPPLY OF CHEAP LABOR AND IN SOME CASES LABOR 10:17:21 THAT BYPASSES THE H2A AND H-2B VISA PROGRAMS. 10:17:27 THE H2A PROGRAM IS FOR AGRICULTURAL WORKERS, THE H-2B 10:17:34 PROGRAM IS FOR NONAGRICULTURAL MOSTLY LOW SKILLED WORKERS. 10:17:38 LABOR ECONOMIST PHILLIP MARTIN WHO HAS CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE 10:17:41 STUDIES OF FARM LABOR IN THE AREAS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLE 10:17:44 PRODUCTION HAS FOUND RISING PRODUCTION IN CROPS AND STAGNANT 10:17:48 WAGES FOR THE WORKERS. MEANWHILE, THE COST OF HOUSEHOLD 10:17:54 EXPENDITURES ON FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES HAS REMAINED 10:17:56 CONSTANT. IF THERE WERE LABOR SHORTAGES 10:17:59 FOR AGRICULTURE WORKERS ONE WOULD EXPECT TO FIND RISING 10:18:03 WAGES AND MORE ATTRACTIVE WORKING CONDITIONS. 10:18:05 ONE WOULD NOT EXPECT TO FIND UNEMPLOYMENT RATES OF 10.8% IN 10:18:10 MAY AND 7.9% IN AUGUST. THESE UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES 10:18:14 INDICATE THAT THERE ARE NATIVE WORKERS ACTIVELY SEEKING 10:18:17 EMPLOYMENT IN THE SECTOR THAT INCLUDES AGRICULTURAL WORKERS, 10:18:22 FORESTRY, FISHING AND HUNTING. THE MAJORITY OF AGRICULTURAL 10:18:25 WORKERS HAS LESS THAN A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION. 10:18:27 THEY WORK UNDER THE MOST STRENUOUS CONDITIONS 10:18:31 CONSEQUENTLY THERE IS A HIGH TURNOVER RATE AMONG THESE 10:18:34 WORKERS. AGRICULTURAL WORKERS OFTEN LEAVE 10:18:37 THE FARMS FOR OTHER LOW WAGE, LOW SKILL OCCUPATIONS. 10:18:42 THERE THEY COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH LOW SKILLED AMERICANS FOR A 10:18:47 DWINDLING SUPPLY OF LOW WAGE JOBS. 10:18:49 THE UFW'S HUMOROUS TAKE OUR JOBS INITIATIVE ENTIRELY OR PERHAPS 10:18:55 DELIBERATELY MISSES THE POINT. AMERICA CANNOT CONTINUE TO BRING 10:19:00 IN LOW-SKILLED GUEST WORKERS TO COMPETE WITH THE MOST 10:19:04 DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS, THE POOR WHITES, THE BLACKS, THE 10:19:07 LEGAL HISPANICS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE LEGALLY. 10:19:11 NOR CAN IT CONTINUE TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO ILLEGAL 10:19:18 IMMIGRATION. OFTEN SURPLUS LABOR THAT STARTS 10:19:20 IN THE FIELDS MIGRATES INTO OTHER INDUSTRIES. 10:19:25 WITHOUT SURPLUS LABOR EMPLOYERS WOULD BE FORCED TO PAY HIGHER 10:19:28 WAGES AND MANY WOULD BE FORCED TO IMPROVE SUBSTANDARD WORKING 10:19:31 CONDITIONS. INSTEAD OF PAYING $8 OR $9 PER 10:19:37 HOUR EMPLOYERS MIGHT BE FORCED TO PAY $12 OR $13. 10:19:42 PHIL MARTIN SHOWS THAT AN INCREASE IN THE WAGES OF FARM 10:19:45 WORKERS WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE AVERAGE FAMILY'S 10:19:49 FOOD BILL. HE ESTIMATED THAT THE AVERAGE 10:19:52 FAMILY'S FOOD BILL WOULD RISE BY ABOUT $8 A YEAR. 10:19:56 THE TAKE OUR JOBS INITIATIVE MISSES THE FACT THAT IN SOME 10:19:59 PARTS OF THE COUNTRY FAY TIFF WORKERS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED 10:20:02 ALONGSIDE IMMIGRANTS. YESTERDAY I HAD A CONVERSATION 10:20:07 WITH A BUSINESSMAN FROM NASHVILLE WHO RAN A ONE-YEAR 10:20:12 EXPERIMENT IN HELENA, ARKANSAS, INVOLVING SWEET POTATO PLANTING 10:20:16 AND HARVESTING. MR. DON KERR OF KERR INDUSTRIES 10:20:20 INVESTED OVER $250,000 OF HIS OWN MONEY TO HELP UNEMPLOYED 10:20:25 AMERICANS GET JOBS IN THE FIELDS IN AN AREA OF THE COUNTRY WHERE 10:20:30 UNEMPLOYMENT IS AROUND 40% FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. 10:20:33 HIS EXPERIMENT INVOLVED H2A WORK HE, THE AGRICULTURE WORKERS HERE 10:20:38 ON VISAS AND NATIVE BORN BLACKS WHO WERE PICKED UP FROM A 10:20:42 CENTRAL LOCATION, THEY WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE JOB SITE, 10:20:45 THEY WERE PROVIDED WITH BATHROOM AND LUNCH ROOM FACILITIES AND A 10:20:50 DECENT WAGE. MR. KERR SAW NO DIFFERENCES IN 10:20:52 THE QUALITY OF THE WORK PROVIDED BY THE NATIVE BORN BLACK 10:20:56 AMERICAN WORKERS AND HE CONCLUDED THAT AMERICAN WORKERS 10:20:59 WOULD DO FARM WORK IF THEY HAVE TRANSPORTATION AND DECENT 10:21:04 WORKING CONDITIONS. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD A PROBLEM -- 10:21:08 EVEN THOUGH HE HAD A PROGRAM THAT WAS PROVIDING JOBS FOR 10:21:11 UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS HE COULD NOT GET STATE OR FEDERAL 10:21:14 AGENCIES TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN THE PROGRAM. 10:21:16 HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE INDEPENDENT -- AN INDEPENDENT 10:21:21 FARM SERVICE COMMITTEE TO STAND BETWEEN THE WORKERS AND GROWERS, 10:21:24 THE AGENCY WOULD HIRE THE WORKERS, PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION 10:21:27 AND AIR CONDITIONED BUSES, BATHROOM AND LUNCH FACILITIES 10:21:31 AND WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE AGRICULTURE WORKERS 10:21:33 AND THE GROWERS. THE UFW'S TAKE OUR JOB 10:21:38 INITIATIVE HAS NOT IN MY OPINION HAS NOT MADE A SERIOUS EFFORT TO 10:21:42 RECRUIT AMERICAN WORKERS. THIS IS A PUBLICITY STUNT. 10:21:46 WE NEED TO REFORM IMMIGRATION. THE RAPID INFLUX OF CHEAP LABOR 10:21:50 FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES CREATES AN OVERSUPPLY OF LABOR THAT 10:21:53 WORKS AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF NATIVE WORKERS. 10:21:55 IT DEPRESSES THEIR WAGES. IT REDUCES THEIR OPPORTUNITIES 10:21:59 AND IT DETERS EMPLOYERS FROM INVESTING IN NATIVE HUMAN 10:22:05 CAPITAL. COMPOUNDING THESE PROBLEMS, 10:22:08 NATIVE BORN BLACKS AND HISPANICS SUFFERS MORE THAN ANY OTHER 10:22:11 GROUP. YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THEIR 10:22:12 UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AND IT'S IN MY P.M. 10:22:14 IT'S OFF THE CHARTS. THIS IS A DISGRACE. 10:22:17 CONGRESS NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT REFORMING IMMIGRATION AND 10:22:20 THEY NEED TO PROTECT THE MOST DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS. 10:22:23 THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:22:26 DR. SWAIN. WE'LL TURN NOW TO MR. GLAIZE FOR 10:22:31 YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. 10:22:35 COULD YOU TURN ON THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. 10:22:37 A LITTLE BUTTON. THERE YOU GO. 10:22:46 NOPE, IT'S STILL NOT ON. WE WILL. 10:22:51 I AM HONORED TO TESTIFY TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE U.S. APPLE 10:22:55 ASSOCIATION AND AGRICULTURE COALITION FOR IMMIGRATION 10:22:57 REFORM. MY NAME IS PHIL GLAIZE WITH 10:23:04 OPERATIONS IN SHENANDOAH AND FRED KICK COUNTIES, VIRGINIA, 10:23:06 AND WE EMPLOY FROM 30 TO 155 WORKERS DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF 10:23:10 YEAR. THE FACT I APPEAR BEFORE YOU AS 10:23:12 A FARMER WITH ARTURO RODRIGUEZ, THE PRESIDENT OF UFW SHOULD SEND 10:23:16 A VERY POWERFUL MESSAGE. AMERICAN FARMERS AND THE FARM 10:23:21 WORKERS HAVE A COMMON PROBLEM. DESPITE CONTINUED ATTEMPTS AT 10:23:25 AUTOMATION, APPLES STILL NEED TO BE MANUALLY PRUNED AND HAND 10:23:30 PICKED. THE WORK IS PHYSICALLY DEMANDING 10:23:32 AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SKILL IS NECESSARY. 10:23:35 APPLES BRUISE EASILY. AND IMPROPER PICKING WILL 10:23:38 GREATLY REDUCE THE VALUE OF OUR CROP. 10:23:40 WE NEED A RELIABLE SKILLED AND LEGAL WORKFORCE. 10:23:44 TODAY FARMERS ARE CHOOSING BETWEEN A RELIABLE SKILLED AND 10:23:47 ILLEGAL WORKFORCE OR A BUREAUCRATIC UNRELIABLE H2A 10:23:52 PROGRAM. WITHOUT A THOUGHTFUL FEDERAL 10:23:55 LEGISLATIVE SOLUTION, FARMS WILL FAIL. 10:23:58 WE WILL EXPORT U.S. JOBS, WE WILL IMPORT OUR FOOD. 10:24:01 WHO IS DOING THE WORK ON AMERICA'S FARMS? 10:24:05 GOVERNMENT STATISTICS TELL US THAT HIRED FARM WORKERS ARE OVER 10:24:09 80% FOREIGN BORN AND OVER HALF OF THOSE ARE UNAUTHORIZED. 10:24:13 PRIVATE ESTIMATES SAY AS MANY AS 75% ARE UNAUTHORIZED. 10:24:18 ONLY 2% OF AMERICA'S FARM WORKERS ARE COMING IN THROUGH 10:24:21 THE EXISTING H2A PROGRAM. MANY BELIEVE THAT NATIVE BORN 10:24:26 WORKERS WILL HARVEST AMERICA'S SPECIALTY CROPS. 10:24:29 HOWEVER, THE UFW'S TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN IS ONLY THE LATEST IN A 10:24:33 SERIES OF UNSUCCESSFUL EFFORTS IN GOOD AND BAD TIMES. 10:24:38 IN MICHIGAN, IN WASHINGTON, IN CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE TO 10:24:42 RECRUIT AMERICANS INTO FARM JOBS. 10:24:44 THOSE OF US THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO HARVEST OUR CROPS ARE NOT 10:24:49 SURPRISED THAT TAKE OUR JOBS IS ONLY PRODUCING A HANDFUL OF 10:24:51 WORKERS. IT ISN'T ABOUT HOURLY WAGES, 10:24:56 FARM WORKERS CAN EARN MORE PER HOUR PICKING APPLES THAN 10:25:00 FLIPPING BURGERS OR STOCKING SHELVES IN A BIG BOX STORE. 10:25:03 THE AVERAGE PICKER ON MY FARM EARNS $93 FOR A NINE-HOUR DAY. 10:25:08 THE BETTER ONES EARN MORE. BUT LIKE SO MANY AGRICULTURAL 10:25:13 JOBS, PICKING APPLES IS HIGHLY SEASONAL. 10:25:16 IT IS OUT IN THE WEATHER. IT IS DEMANDING. 10:25:19 I DO HAVE A PICKING BUCKET FULL OF APPLES HERE I INVITE EVERY 10:25:23 COMMITTEE MEMBER PLEASE COME DOWN, PUT IT ON, UNDERSTAND WHAT 10:25:26 IT'S LIKE TO FILL THAT THING 150 TIMES A DAY. 10:25:30 GO UP AND DOWN A LADDER. MOST IN THIS ROOM WOULD PROBABLY 10:25:35 ARGUE THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN. 10:25:38 SOME GROWERS ARE TRYING TO USE THE H2A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM BUT 10:25:43 PHASE HUGE OBSTACLES AND UNCERTAINTY. 10:25:45 JUST LAST MONTH APPLE GROWERS IN THE NORTHEAST HAD A NEAR 10:25:49 DISASTER WHEN DECISIONS BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE U.S. 10:25:51 CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES PUT APPLICATIONS OF 10:25:54 HUNDREDS OF JAMAICAN WORKERS IN JEOPARDY JUST DAYS BEFORE THE 10:25:57 GROWER NEEDED THEM TO START HARVEST. 10:26:00 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS INTERVENED AND THE WORKERS ARRIVED AT THE 10:26:03 LAST MOMENT. A FEW MORE DAYS OF INACTION 10:26:05 COULD HAVE MEANT LOSSES ESTIMATED AT $95 MILLION FOR THE 10:26:10 AFFECTED GROWERS. FROM A USER STANDPOINT, THE H2A 10:26:13 PROGRAM IS A MESS. THE CHOICE BETWEEN USING THE 10:26:17 DYSFUNCTIONAL H2A PROGRAM OR HIRING WORKERS WHOSE DOCUMENTS 10:26:22 LOOK GOOD BUT MAY NOT BE IS UNTENABLE. 10:26:26 IN THE U.S. WE HAVE A SHORT WINDOW TO GET 200 MILLION 10:26:30 BUSHELS OF APPLES OFF THE TREE. AS THEY RIPEN THERE IS A 10:26:33 FIVE-DAY WINDOW TO PICK THEM AT THE PROPER MATURITY. 10:26:36 DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF AND STRAINS ALLOW US TO MANAGE THE 10:26:40 HARVEST'S TIMING OVER THE COURSE OF EIGHT TO TEN WEEKS. 10:26:43 A DELAY IN THE ARRIVAL OF WORKERS HAS A DOMINO EFFECT THAT 10:26:46 LEADS TO OVERRIPE FRUIT, FRUIT ON THE GROUND AND FINANCIAL 10:26:49 LOSS. WHAT IS MOST WORRISOME TO ME AS 10:26:53 A GROWER IS THE REALITY THAT WE COULD LOSE A LARGE PORTION OR 10:26:56 EVEN A WHOLE CROP IF WILLING AND ABLE PICKERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. 10:27:01 AT HARVEST TIME ALL BUT THE PICKING COSTS HAVE BEEN 10:27:04 INVESTED. OUR LINES OF CREDIT ARE FULLY 10:27:07 UTILIZED. WE HAVE A LEVERAGED INVESTMENT 10:27:09 THAT MUST BE CONVERTED TO CASH. IF WE LOSE APPLES TO THE GROUND 10:27:13 DUE TO A LACK OF PICKERS WE COULD EASILY BE FORCED TO 10:27:17 LIQUIDATE PART OF THE FARM TO PAY OUR LENDERS. 10:27:19 THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME QUICKLY AND WITHOUT WARNING ONE YEAR IS 10:27:23 ALL IT WILL TAKE. THE THREAT OF LOSING FARMS AND 10:27:27 ALL THE JOBS DEPENDENT UPON THEM IS REAL AND WORSENING IN THE 10:27:30 FACE OF CONGRESSIONAL INACTION. AT LEAST 80,000 ACRES OF 10:27:35 HIGH-VALUE VEGETABLE PRODUCTION LEFT ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA FOR 10:27:38 MEXICO. 77% OF TEXAS VEGETABLE PRODUCERS 10:27:42 REPORT SCALING BACK DUE TO LABOR SHORTFALLS. 10:27:45 FLORIDA TOMATOES AND ORANGES ARE MOVING TO MEXICO AND BRAZIL. 10:27:49 CHINA HAS REQUESTED ACCESS TO OUR MARKET FOR FRESH APPLES AND 10:27:53 THEY ALREADY PRODUCE OVER ONE-HALF THE WORLD'S APPLES. 10:27:56 IF THE U.S. APPLE INDUSTRY IS STARVED FOR LABOR, THE CHINESE 10:27:59 ARE READY TO STEP IN AND SUPPLY OUR APPLES. 10:28:03 IN THE FACE OF A CRISIS RETRIEVING LOST PRODUCTION WILL 10:28:06 NOT HAPPEN QUICKLY. SPECIALTY CROP PRODUCTION IS 10:28:11 EXTREMELY RISKY. AVERAGE PROFITABILITY DOESN'T 10:28:13 REALLY GIVE A PROPER RETURN GIVEN THE RISK THAT WE TAKE. 10:28:16 FOR MOST OF US, THE REASONS WE STAY IN IT ARE NOT ECONOMICAL, A 10:28:20 MAIN LIFE GOAL FOR ME IS TO PROVIDE JOBS FOR AS MANY PEOPLE 10:28:24 AS POSSIBLE. I AM COMPELLED TO BE ABLE TO 10:28:26 PASS ON OUR FARM TO SOMEONE WHO WILL TAKE IT. 10:28:31 LABOR SHORTAGES ARE NOT GOING TO FIND ME A WILLING BUYER. 10:28:35 IT'S A SERIOUS ECONOMIC PROBLEM THAT CONGRESS HAS NOT ADDRESSED 10:28:39 FOR FAR TOO LONG. NOW IS THE TIME. 10:28:43 I'M EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF AG JOBS LEGISLATION. 10:28:47 COMPREHENSIVE REFORM MAY BE TOO POLITICALLY CHARGED RIGHT NOW. 10:28:51 PLEASE FOCUS ON AG JOBS AND GET IT PASSED. 10:28:54 I THINK THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRED. 10:28:57 WE TURN NOW TO MR. RODRIGUEZ. GOOD MORNING. 10:29:03 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHAIR WOMAN LOFGREN AND CHAIRMAN 10:29:09 CONYERS, RANKING MEMBER KING AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE 10:29:11 FOR HOLDING THE HEARING. MY NAME IS ARTURO RODRIGUEZ 10:29:15 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FARM WORKERS AND JOINING ME TODAY ARE 10:29:19 FIVE FARM WORKS OF WORKERS. I'D LIKE THEM TO STAND UP. 10:29:25 ISABELLE ROJAS STARTED AT 12. RACHEL LUNA STARTED AT 16. 10:29:32 46 YEARS IN THE FIELD. 33 YEARS WORKING IN THE FIELDS, 10:29:38 TERESA SORIANO, 14, STARTED AT 14 WORKING 43 YEARS IN THE OLD. 10:29:43 AIL PARADE DAE ZAMORA, STARTED WORKING AND HAS 34 YEARS WORKING 10:29:48 IN THE FEEL. VERY POWDER TO BE WITH ALL OF 10:29:50 THEM HERE TODAY. TODAY ACROSS AMERICA THE HARVEST 10:29:54 SEASON IS REACHING ITS PEAK. MORE THAN A MILLION MEN, WOMEN 10:29:58 AND CHILDREN ARE TOLLING IN OUR NATION'S FIELDS PRODUCING OUR 10:30:01 FRUITS AND VEGETABLES AND CARING FOR OUR LIVESTOCK. 10:30:05 MOST AMERICANS HAVE THE LUXURY TO OPERATE IN IGNORANCE OR 10:30:09 DENIAL ABOUT HOW THE FOOD WE EAT GETS ON OUR TABLES. 10:30:13 AGRICULTURE IN THE UNITED STATES IS DEPENDENT ON HARD-WORKING 10:30:17 DEDICATED TAX-PAYING IMMIGRANT WORKFORCE. 10:30:21 THREE-QUARTERS OF ALL FARM WORKERS ARE BORN OUTSIDE THE 10:30:23 COUNTRY TODAY. THESE ARE THE FACTS. 10:30:26 AMERICA NEEDS WORKERS, NEEDS THESE WORKERS. 10:30:29 EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS DIRECTLY SUSTAINED BY THEIR 10:30:33 LABORS EVERY DAY. IF YOU HAD A GLASS OF FLORIDA 10:30:36 ORANGE JUICE WITH YOUR BREAKFAST THIS MORNING, IT IS ALMOST 10:30:39 CERTAIN THE ORANGES THAT WENT INTO THAT JUICE WERE PICKED BY 10:30:43 UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS. IF YOU HAD MILK, ON YOUR CEREAL, 10:30:48 IT IS LIKELY THE WORKERS WHO MILKED THE COWS DIDN'T HAVE THE 10:30:51 RIGHT PAPERS. WITH WE SIT DOWN EVERY DAY TO 10:30:53 GIVE THANKS FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS MOST OF THE FOOD ON 10:30:55 YOUR TABLE HAS BEEN HARVESTED AND CARED FOR BY UNAUTHORIZED 10:30:58 WORKERS. THERE'S ANOTHER INDISPUTABLE 10:31:02 FACT. THE LIFE OF A U.S. FARM WORKER 10:31:06 IN 2010 IS NOT AN EASY ONE. MOST FARM WORKERS LIVE IN 10:31:09 POVERTY, ENDURE POOR WORKING CONDITIONS AND RECEIVE NO 10:31:12 GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. U 10:31:14 UNDOCUMENTED FARM WORKERS TAKE JOBS OTHER AMERICANS WON'T DO 10:31:18 FOR PAY OTHER AMERICANS WON'T -- OTHER AMERICAN WORKERS WON'T 10:31:22 ACCEPT AND UNDER CONDITIONS OTHER AMERICANS WON'T TOLERATE. 10:31:26 WHO IS TO BLAME? IT IS NOT THE FARM WORKERS' 10:31:29 FAULT THAT 15 STATES DO NOT EVEN PROVIDE THE BASIC PROTECTION OF 10:31:34 WORKERS' COMPENSATION IF THEY ARE INJURED AT WORK. 10:31:36 IT'S NOT THE FARM WORKER'S FAULT THAT MORE THAN 70 YEARS AFTER 10:31:40 CONGRESS PASSED THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT FARM WORKERS 10:31:44 STILL DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO ORGANIZE. 10:31:46 IT IS NOT THE FARM WORKERS TAUGHT THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR THEY 10:31:51 VIOLATE THE CONTRACTS WITH IMPUNITY WHILE THE GROWERS 10:31:55 EMPLOY THE CONTRACTORS AVOID THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE 10:31:58 WORKERS. OUR SOCIETY PLACES ALL THE RISKS 10:32:02 AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEASONAL INDUSTRY FEATURING 10:32:05 MILLIONS OF SHORT-TERM JOBS ON THE BACKS OF THE WORKERS. 10:32:10 FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS A FREEZE AS OCCURRED MANY TIMES 10:32:14 RECENTLY IN FLORIDA, THOUSANDS OF WORKERS WERE LEFT WITHOUT 10:32:17 WORK. THERE'S NO UNEMPLOYMENT 10:32:19 ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE WORKERS DURING THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD. 10:32:23 FURTHERMORE, IF A WORKER IS INJURED, OFTENTIMES THERE IS NO 10:32:26 REAL RECOURSE. THERE IS NO ACCESS TO WORKER 10:32:27 COMPENSATION. SO WE THE UNITED FARM WORKERS 10:32:33 INITIATED THE TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN AND DID INVITE CITIZENS 10:32:37 AND LEGAL RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR JOBS AND SUPPLY OUR WORKPLACE 10:32:44 CAFETERIAS INCLUDING THOSE IN OUR NATION'S CAPITAL WITH THE 10:32:46 FOOD THAT FUELS THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION. 10:32:49 SINCE JUNE THE 24th WE RECEIVED 8,600 INQUIRIES THROUGH OUR 10:32:55 WEBSITE TAKE OUR JOBS.ORG. BUT ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE HAVE 10:33:00 ACCEPTED THOSE JOBS ON A FULL TIME BASIS AND CONTINUING TO 10:33:03 WORK IN AGRICULTURE. INDEED, IF WE DEPORTED ALL 10:33:09 UNDOCUMENTED FARM WORKERS HERE NOW, THE GOVERNMENT ESTIMATES 10:33:12 U.S. AGRICULTURE WOULD NEED TO HIRE AT LEAST 1 MILLION CITIZENS 10:33:15 OR LEGAL RESIDENTS TO REPLACE THE IMMIGRANT LABORS. 10:33:20 A MASS DEPORTATION OF AGRICULTURE WORKERS WOULD CAUSE 10:33:23 THE COLLAPSE OF THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY AS WE KNOW IT AND WE 10:33:27 FEEL THAT WOULD HAVE A SEVERE IMPACT ON MAINTAINING A VERY 10:33:30 MUCH NEEDED INDUSTRY IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY AS WELL AS 10:33:34 PROVIDING AMERICAN CONSUMERS WITH SAFE FOOD. 10:33:38 WE CONTINUE OUR WORK. WE URGE THAT AG JOBS BE PASSED 10:33:44 HERE BY THE CONGRESS, THAT YOU SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THAT AND 10:33:47 GIVING LEGAL STATUS TO THOSE FARM WORKERS THAT ARE HERE 10:33:50 TODAY. THE GROWERS, THE EMPLOYERS, THE 10:33:53 AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY IS ASKING FOR A SECURE FARM LABOR FORCE. 10:33:56 WE THINK IT'S THE OBLIGATION OF THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THIS 10:34:01 CONGRESS TO TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY ON THAT ISSUE. 10:34:04 NOW IS THE TIME FOR CONGRESS TO ACKNOWLEDGE ITS ROLE IN CREATING 10:34:08 WHAT EXISTS TODAY AS OUR CURRENT FARM LABOR PRICES AND TO OFFER A 10:34:12 REAL AND LASTING SOLUTION. IT IS TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE 10:34:16 DIGNITY OF THE CURRENT FARM LABOR WORKFORCE AND ENSURE THE 10:34:20 SAFETY AND ABUNDANCE OF AMERICA'S FOOD SUPPLY BY PASSING 10:34:25 THE AG JOBS BILL. A FAILURE TO DO SO WOULD BE BOTH 10:34:27 A HUMAN AND ECONOMIC TRAGEDY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:34:32 NOW WE WILL TURN TO -- MADAM SPEAKER -- CHAIRMAN, 10:34:37 COULD I JUST SAY THAT AFTER LISTENING TO DR. CAROL SWAIN, I 10:34:43 WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS REQUEST THAT I HAD MADE TO STEPHEN 10:34:47 COLBERT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 10:34:49 AND WE WILL TURN NOW TO MR. COLBERT FOR HIS FIVE MINUTES OF 10:34:57 TESTIMONY. GOOD MORNING. STEPHEN COLBERT: 10:34:59 MY NAME IS STEPHEN COLBERT AND I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. 10:35:04 IT IS AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TODAY. 10:35:06 CONGRESSWOMAN LOFGREN ASKED ME TO SHARE MY VAST EXPERIENCE 10:35:09 SPENDING ONE DAY AS A MIGRANT FARM WORKER. 10:35:12 I AM HAPPY TO USE MY CELEBRITY TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS 10:35:15 IMPORTANT COMPLICATED ISSUE AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT MY STAR 10:35:18 POWER CAN BUMP THIS HEARING ALL THE WAY UP TO C-SPAN 1. 10:35:24 AS WE'VE HEARD THIS MORNING, AMERICA'S FARMS ARE PRESENTLY 10:35:27 FAR TOO DEPENDENT ON IMMIGRANT LABOR TO PICK OUR FRUITS AND 10:35:32 V VEGETABLES. 10:35:33 NOW THE OBVIOUS ANSWER IS FOR ALL OF US TO STOP EATING FRUITS 10:35:35 AND VEGETABLES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT 10:35:39 OBESITY STATISTICS, YOU'LL SEE THAT MANY AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY 10:35:41 STARTED. UNFORTUNATELY, MY GRASS TREE 10:35:46 ENTER ROLL GIST HAS INFORMED ME IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT THEY 10:35:49 ARE A NECESSARY SOURCE OF ROUGHAGE AS EVIDENCED I WILL 10:35:53 LIKE TO SUBMIT A VIDEO OF MY COLON NO CO-PI INTO THE RECORD. 10:35:58 WE KNOW THERE IS A LONG TRADITION OF GREAT NATIONS 10:36:02 IMPORTING FOREIGN WORKERS TO DO THEIR FARM WORK. 10:36:04 AFTER ALL, IT WAS THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES WHO BUILT THE FIRST 10:36:08 FOOD PYRAMIDS BUT THIS IS AMERICA. 10:36:10 I DON'T WANT A TOMATO PICKED BY A MEXICAN. 10:36:13 I WANT IT PICKED BY AN AMERICAN. THEN SLICED BY GUATEMALAN AND 10:36:18 SERVED BY A VENEZUELAN IN A SPA WHERE A CHILEAN GIVES ME A 10:36:22 BRAZILIAN. BECAUSE MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER DID 10:36:26 NOT TRAVEL ACROSS 4,000 MILES OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO SEE THIS 10:36:30 COUNTRY OVERRUN BY IMMIGRANTS. HE DID IT BECAUSE HE KILLED A 10:36:33 MAN BACK IN IRELAND. THAT'S THE RUMOR. 10:36:37 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT STRICKEN 10:36:40 FROM THE RECORD SO WE DO NOT WANT IMMIGRANTS DOING THIS LABOR 10:36:43 AND I AGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN KING, WE MUST SECURE OUR 10:36:47 BORDERS. OF COURSE, I'M SURE ARTURO 10:36:49 RODRIGUEZ IS SAYING WHO THEN WOULD PICK OUR CROPS, STEPHEN? 10:36:54 FIRST OF ALL, DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHEN I'M TALKING. 10:36:56 THAT'S RUDE. SECOND, I REJECT THIS IDEA THAT 10:36:59 FARM WORK IS AMONG THE SEMI MYTHICAL JOBS THAT AMERICANS 10:37:02 WON'T DO. REALLY? 10:37:05 NO AMERICANS? I DID. 10:37:08 AS PART OF MY ONGOING SERIES "STEPHEN COLBERT'S FALLBACK 10:37:12 POSITION WHERE I TRY OTHER JOBS AND REALIZE THAT MINE IS WAY 10:37:16 BETTER. I PARTICIPATED IN THE UFW'S TAKE 10:37:20 OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN. ONE OF ONLY 16 PEOPLE IN AMERICA 10:37:23 TO TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE THOUGH THAT NUMBER MAY INCREASE IN THE 10:37:26 NEAR FUTURE AS I UNDERSTAND MANY DEMOCRATS PAY BE LOOKING FOR 10:37:28 WORK COME NOVEMBER. NOW, I'LL ADMIT, I STARTED MY 10:37:35 WORKDAY WITH PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF MIGRANT LABOR. 10:37:38 BUT AFTER WORKING WITH THESE MEN AND WOMEN, PICKING BEANS, 10:37:42 PACKING CORN, FOR HOURS ON END SIDE BY SIDE IN THE UNFORGIVING 10:37:47 SUN, I HAVE TO SAY AND I DO MEAN THIS SINCERELY, PLEASE DON'T 10:37:51 MAKE ME DO THIS AGAIN! IT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD. 10:37:57 FOR ONE THING WHEN YOU'RE PICKING BEANS YOU HAVE TO SPEND 10:37:59 ALL DAY BENDING OVER. IT TURNS OUT AND I DID NOT KNOW 10:38:02 THIS, MOST SOIL IS AT GROUND LEVEL. 10:38:05 IF WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE MOON WHY CAN'T WE MAKE THE EARTH 10:38:09 WAIST HIGH. COME ON. 10:38:10 WHERE IS THE FUNDING? THIS BRIEF EXPERIENCE GAVE ME 10:38:15 SOME SMALL UNDERSTANDING OF WHY SO FEW AMERICANS ARE CLAMORING 10:38:18 TO BEGIN AN EXCITING CAREER AS SEASONAL MIGRANT FIELD WORKER. 10:38:22 SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? I'M A FREE MARKET GUY. 10:38:26 NORMALLY I WOULD LEAVE THIS TO THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET 10:38:29 BUT THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET HAS ALREADY MOVED OVER 10:38:33 84,000 ACRES OF PRODUCTION AND OVER 22,000 FARM JOBS TO MEXICO 10:38:37 AND SHUT DOWN OVER A MILLION ACRES OF U.S. FARM LAND DUE TO 10:38:41 LACK OF AVAILABLE LABOR BECAUSE APPARENTLY EVEN THE INVISIBLE 10:38:44 HAND DOESN'T WANT TO PICK BEANS. NOW I'M NOT A FAN OF THE 10:38:48 GOVERNMENT DOING ANYTHING. BUT I'VE GOT TO ASK WHY ISN'T 10:38:51 THE GOVERNMENT DOING ANYTHING? MAYBE THIS AG JOBS BILL WOULD 10:38:55 HELP. I DON'T KNOW. 10:38:56 LIKE MOST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS I HAVEN'T READ IT. 10:39:00 BUT MAYBE WE COULD OFFER MORE VISAS TO THE IMMIGRANTS WHO 10:39:03 LET'S FACE IT MAYBE WE COULD OFFER MORE VISAS TO THE 10:39:07 IMMIGRANTS WHO LET'S FACE IT WILL PROBABLY BE DOING THESE 10:39:10 JOBS ANY WAY AND THIS IMPROVED LEGAL STATUS MIGHT ALLOW 10:39:13 RECOURSE IF THEY'RE ABUSED AND JUST STANDS TO REASON TO ME THAT 10:39:16 IF YOU ARE YOUR CO-WORKER CAN'T BE EXPLOITED YOU'RE LESS LIKELY 10:39:20 TO BE EXPLOITED YOURSELF AND THAT ITSELF MIGHT IMPROVE PAY 10:39:22 AND WORKING CONDITIONS ON THESE FARMS AND EVENTUALLY AMERICANS 10:39:26 MAY CONSIDER TAKING THESE JOBS AGAIN. 10:39:29 OR MAYBE THAT'S CRAZY. MAYBE THE EASIER ANSWER IS JUST 10:39:32 TO HAVE SCIENTISTS DEVELOP VEGETABLES THAT PICK THEMSELVES. 10:39:36 THE GENETIC ENGINEERS OVER AT FRUIT OF THE LOOM HAVE MADE 10:39:39 GREAT STRIDES IN HUMAN FRUIT HYBRIDS. 10:39:42 THE POINT IS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING 10:39:44 BACK OUT THERE. AT THIS POINT I BREAK INTO A 10:39:47 COLD SWEAT AT THE SITE OF A SALAD BAR. 10:39:49 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AGAIN, IT IS AN HONOR, A 10:39:53 PRIVILEGE AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HERE. 10:39:55 I TRUST THAT FOLLOWING MY TESTIMONY, BOTH SIDES WILL WORK 10:40:00 TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN 10:40:04 PEOPLE AS YOU ALWAYS DO. I'M NOW PREPARED TO TAKE YOUR 10:40:09 QUESTIONS AND/OR POSE FOR PICTURES WITH YOUR 10:40:12 GRANDCHILDREN. I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME, 10:40:14 USA, NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:40:18 THANKS TO ALL OF THE WITNESSES FOR THEIR TESTIMONY. 10:40:23 WE WILL NOW BEGIN QUESTIONS OF ANY OF OUR WITNESSES AND WE WILL 10:40:28 BEGIN IF MR. CONYERS IS READY AT THIS TIME, I WILL RECOGNIZE 10:40:34 MR. CONYERS FOR HIS QUESTIONS FOR FIVE MINUTES. 10:40:36 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE 10:40:42 TESTIMONY, ALL THE WITNESSES. I HAVE TO OBSERVE THAT MR. 10:40:50 COLBERT SUBMITTED STATEMENT WAS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT FROM THE 10:40:53 ONE HE PRESENTED BUT THAT'S A SMALL DETAIL. 10:41:02 DR. CAROL SWAIN, YOU'VE WRITTEN AND STUDIED ABOUT THIS SUBJECT 10:41:05 QUITE A BIT AND WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING IS THAT 10:41:14 YOU -- YOU SPOKE OF A CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH A 10:41:18 GROWER WHO HAD A PROGRAM TO PROVIDE JOBS TO 10:41:25 AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND -- BUT IN YOUR WRITTEN TESTIMONY YOU STATE 10:41:30 THAT HE CLOSED THE PROGRAM BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET FEDERAL 10:41:34 OR STATE AGENCIES TO INVEST MONEY. 10:41:39 NOW, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS THAT THE GROWER COULDN'T MAKE 10:41:44 IT PROFITABLE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT, RIGHT? 10:41:48 HE INVESTED $250,000 OF HIS OWN MONEY AND HE HAS WORKED WITH 10:41:55 BLANCHE LINCOLN AND OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ON THESE 10:41:57 AGRICULTURAL ISSUES. HE'S VERY MUCH -- THIS IS A 10:42:01 WHITE -- BUT HE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH -- 10:42:04 HE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN ISSUES AFFECTING PEOPLE THAT ARE 10:42:08 DISADVANTAGED. I KNOW HE'S A GOOD GUY BUT HE 10:42:11 COULDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY, RIGHT. 10:42:12 HE COULD NOT GET -- IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG. 10:42:16 LOCAL OR FEDERAL OFFICIALS TO INVEST IN A PROGRAM THAT WAS 10:42:20 PROVIDING EMPLOYMENT FOR AMERICANS. 10:42:22 HE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY, RIGHT? 10:42:25 I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. 10:42:27 WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE POINT. 10:42:29 IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY -- IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG? 10:42:33 HE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT OUT OF 10:42:37 BUSINESS EVEN THOUGH HE INVESTED A LOT OF HIS MONEY, HE WAS A 10:42:40 GOOD GUY. HE DIDN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS. 10:42:42 CURRY INDUSTRIES IS A VERY WELL-KNOWN PROFITABLE COMPANY. 10:42:45 HE DIDN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS. HE A NASHVILLE BUSINESSMAN. 10:42:48 BUT HE CLOSED THE PROGRAM. HE CLOSED PROGRAM. 10:42:51 WHY -- IN ARKANSAS. 10:42:53 WHY DID HE CLOSE IT. BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GET 10:42:55 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS TO BE -- TO 10:42:59 BE INTERESTED IN THE PLIGHT OF DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS AND SO 10:43:05 HE SPENDS HIS ENERGIES IN OTHER PLACES. 10:43:07 DO YOU REALLY KNOW THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ON 10:43:11 THIS COMMITTEE AND NOT TOO MANY IN THE CONGRESS -- 10:43:15 MR. CONYERS, READ MY BOOK EXSPECIALLY ON THE BLACK CAUCUS 10:43:18 AND HOW THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTING AFRICAN-AMERICAN INTERESTS ON 10:43:22 THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. WELL, I'M GLAD MAXINE WATERS 10:43:29 ISN'T HERE TODAY. BOY, OH, BOY. 10:43:37 WELL, THE POINT THAT REALLY THIS DISCUSSION COMES DOWN TO IS THAT 10:43:45 DAN LUNGREN, MY DEAR FRIEND FROM CALIFORNIA, FORMER ATTORNEY 10:43:50 GENERAL, HE DOESN'T LIKE THE BERMAN BILL, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE 10:43:55 A BILL. STEVE KING AND I ARE FORMING A 10:43:59 COMMITTEE AFTERWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT -- 10:44:01 I DO HAVE A BILL. OH, YOU DO HAVE A BILL. 10:44:04 OH, THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE NUMBER? 10:44:11 WELL, WE'LL FIND IT. IF YOU SAY YOU HAVE ONE, YOUR 10:44:16 WORD IS YOUR BOND. BUT STEVE KING AND I ARE FORMING 10:44:21 A COMMITTEE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE AND DR. SWAIN, YOU'RE FROM 10:44:28 VANDERBILT. YOU MUST KNOW THAT ONLY 4% OF 10:44:33 THE PEOPLE DOING THIS KIND OF STOOP LABOR ARE 10:44:39 AFRICAN-AMERICANS, RIGHT? IF AMERICANS -- 10:44:43 RIGHT OR WRONG. IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT 10:44:45 PAYING THAT MUCH. THE AMERICAN WORKERS ARE 10:44:48 BEING -- BUT. 10:44:50 -- SURPLUS OF CHEAP LABOR. I PRESUME YOU'RE SAYING -- 10:44:54 TO PAYING A DECENT WAGE TO AMERICAN WORKERS. 10:44:56 I PRESUME YOU'RE SAYING YES. I'M NOT IN A COURT OF LAW SO 10:45:00 I DON'T HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO. OH, OKAY. 10:45:03 AND YOU'RE NOT UNDER OATH EITHER. 10:45:09 NO, WE DON'T WANT HER -- NO. WELL -- 10:45:13 BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LOOK AT MR. KERR'S 10:45:16 SUGGESTIONS. HE'S BEEN A GROWER PROBABLY FOR 10:45:18 30 OR 0 YEARS AND HE HAS AN INDUSTRY AND MADE SOME 10:45:21 SUGGESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT -- WELL, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT 10:45:25 MR. RODRIGUEZ'S SUGGESTIONS? I'VE READ EVERYONE'S 10:45:30 TESTIMONY. WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF 10:45:32 HIS? HE'S REPRESENTING ALL THOSE FINE 10:45:35 PEOPLE THAT HAVE -- WITH THE RED SHIRTS THAT ARE SITTING IN BACK 10:45:39 OF YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HIS -- 10:45:42 I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER THAN TO SEE FARM WORKERS WELL 10:45:46 PAID AND HAVE DECENT WORKING CONDITIONS. 10:45:48 OF COURSE NOT. OF COURSE, YOU DO, BUT WHAT DO 10:45:51 YOU THINK OF RODRIGUEZ'S POSITION? 10:45:55 ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH IT? WELL, AS LONG AS THERE ARE 10:46:00 UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES RIGHT NOW FOR AUGUST 7.9% UNEMPLOYMENT IN 10:46:04 THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR, I CAN'T AGREE THAT THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF 10:46:09 WORKERS. I DO BELIEVE THAT -- 10:46:11 OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE, MADAM CHAIR, 10:46:14 BUT COULD I INVITE YOU TO JOIN ME AND MR. KING ON THIS 10:46:18 COMMITTEE? I WOULD LOVE TO WORK ON THESE 10:46:21 IMMIGRANT ISSUES -- WOULD YOU JOIN OUR COMMITTEE 10:46:23 AFTER THE HEARING. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF CONGRESS 10:46:25 BUT I REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 10:46:27 THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME. I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH 10:46:29 YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10:46:31 THE RANKING MEMBER HAS ASKED US TO GO NEXT TO MR. SMITH WHO 10:46:35 WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. 10:46:37 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. DR. SWAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 10:46:40 EXCELLENT TESTIMONY AND THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO ANSWER ALL THE 10:46:43 QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED. 10:46:44 I HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS AND THE FIRST IS THIS, 10:46:48 WHY AREN'T THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEING BETTER 10:46:53 REPRESENTED? WELL, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE 10:46:54 THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT ORGANIZED IN LOBBIES AND MOST OF 10:46:58 THEM ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND SO THEY'RE NOT IN THE 10:47:02 PRESSURE GROUPS THAT SEEM TO HAVE THE MOST INFLUENCE OVER 10:47:05 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. OKAY. 10:47:08 AND YOU MENTIONED OR REFERRED IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO THE DANGER OF 10:47:12 SORT OF WHAT WE MIGHT CALL CHAIN GUEST WORKERS. 10:47:16 AND IF THEY COME IN AND ARE ALLOWED TO STAY, THEY ARE GOING 10:47:20 TO PROBABLY TAKE ANOTHER JOB AT A HIGHER PAY AS SOON AS THEY 10:47:23 CAN. WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF 10:47:25 THAT? WELL, I MEAN IT'S PRETTY 10:47:28 CLEAR THAT IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, THEY 10:47:32 WORK IN HOTELS, THEY WORK IN RESTAURANTS, THEY DO YARD WORK, 10:47:36 THEY DO THAT. THERE IS A DISPLACEMENT OF 10:47:39 AMERICAN WORKERS AND WHENEVER THERE'S A CRACKDOWN, ALL OF 10:47:42 THOSE JOBS THAT WE'RE TOLD THAT AMERICANS WILL NOT TAKE, YOU SEE 10:47:46 THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, HUNDREDS OF THEM LINING UP TO TAKE THOSE 10:47:49 JOBS AND SO THERE ARE EMPLOYERS THAT WOULD PREFER IMMIGRANT 10:47:53 LABOR BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO EXPLOIT THAT LABOR. 10:47:56 OKAY. I THANK YOU, DR. SWAIN. 10:47:59 MR. COLBERT, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF I 10:48:02 COULD. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT I 10:48:04 THINK YOU MADE SOME GOOD POINTS. PARTICULARLY ABOUT DEMOCRATS AND 10:48:09 NOVEMBER AND PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE NEED FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS 10:48:12 TO READ BILLS. I HOPE OUR DEMOCRATIC 10:48:14 CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP WAS LISTENING TO YOU. 10:48:16 IT SO HAPPENS I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE 10:48:21 R REPUBLICANS' PLEDGE TO AMERICANS 10:48:23 BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT REQUIRES THE 10:48:25 LEADERSHIP TO GIVE 72 HOURS OF NOTICE OF ANY BILL THAT WE HAVE 10:48:30 BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. 10:48:32 LET ME GIVE YOU A SECOND OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LITTLE BIT 10:48:34 MORE SERIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DO TAKE THIS SUBJECT SERIOUSLY. 10:48:37 I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU WORKED FOR 10:48:41 ONE DAY IN THE FIELD IN UPSTATE NEW YORK. 10:48:44 HOW MANY OTHER WORKERS WERE THERE WITH YOU THAT DAY? 10:48:48 I DIDN'T TAKE A COUNT. I'M NOT GOOD WITH MATH. 10:48:52 I WOULD SAY 50. HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OUT IN THE 10:48:58 FIELD. A HUNDRED. 10:48:59 ABOUT A HUNDRED. HOW MANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS 10:49:00 WERE ILLEGAL AND HOW MANY WERE LEGAL? 10:49:02 I DIDN'T ASK THEM FOR THEIR PAPERS, THOUGH I HAD A STRONG 10:49:06 URGE TO. WILL YOU ASSUME THAT IF YOU 10:49:10 DON'T KNOW THEY WERE ILLEGAL THERE MIGHT WELL HAVE BEEN LEGAL 10:49:13 WORKERS THERE. I DON'T KNOW. 10:49:14 I HAVE NO IDEA. WELL, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEN 10:49:17 IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT THEY WERE ALL ILLEGAL WORKERS. 10:49:19 MY POINT BEING IF SOME OF THEM WERE LEGAL AND I PRESUME THEY 10:49:23 WERE THAT DOES SHOW THAT AMERICANS ARE WILLING TO DO 10:49:25 THOSE JOBS. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE 10:49:27 WORKERS WERE PAID? I DON'T KNOW EVEN IF THEY 10:49:30 WERE LEGAL I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS. 10:49:32 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT. EVEN IF THEY WERE LEGAL I 10:49:35 DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS. 10:49:37 MY QUESTION IS DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WERE PAID BY THE 10:49:40 HOUR. I DON'T KNOW. 10:49:41 I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB TO 10:49:43 GET PAID SO I CAN'T COMPARE MY SALARY TO ANYONE. 10:49:46 I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO LEAVE. GOSH, WELL, TO ME HOW MUCH 10:49:50 THEY GET PAID IS A PRETTY SERIOUS SUBJECT AND IF THEY FEED 10:49:53 TO GET PAID MORE TO ATTRACT AMERICAN WORKERS WE SHOULD I 10:49:56 THINK DO SO. I KNOW YOU'RE AN EXPERT 10:49:59 COMEDIAN. I KNOW YOU'RE AN EXPERT 10:50:01 ENTERTAINER. I KNOW YOU HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF 10:50:04 HUMOR, BUT WOULD YOU CALL YOURSELF AN EXPERT WITNESS WHEN 10:50:06 IT AN EXPERT WITNESS WHEN IT COMES TO 10:50:09 FARM LABOR ISSUES OR NOT? I BELIEVE I WAS INVITED HERE 10:50:13 TODAY BY THE CONGRESSWOMAN BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE 16 10:50:16 PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE UNITED FARM WORKERS UP ON THE EXPERIENCE OF 10:50:24 HAVING MIGRANT FORM WORK FOR A DAY. 10:50:30 DOES ONE DAY IN THE FIELD MAKE YOU AND EXPERT WITNESS? 10:50:32 I'M SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU. DOES ONE DAY WORKING IN THE 10:50:37 FIELD MAKE YOU AND EXPERT? ONE DAY OF ME STUDYING 10:50:42 ANYTHING MAKES ME AN EXPERT. IS THAT MORE WORK THAN YOU'VE 10:50:45 EVER DONE BEFORE? EXCUSE ME. 10:50:48 IT'S MORE WORK -- IT'S HARDER WORK THAN THIS. 10:50:50 IS IT HARDER WORK THAN THE COMEDY SHOW? 10:50:53 EXCUSE ME? IS IT HARDER WORK THAN THE 10:50:57 COMEDY SHOW. ABSOLUTELY. 10:50:59 YOU DON'T WANT TO RETURN TO IT? 10:51:00 I WILL NEVER -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO WATCH "GREEN ACRES" ANY 10:51:09 MORE. BY THE WAY I ENDORSE YOUR 10:51:12 POLICIES. YOU ASKED ME IF I ENDORSE PUBLIC 10:51:15 POLICY. ALL REPUBLICAN POLICIES WITHOUT 10:51:17 QUESTION. INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT 10:51:18 THAT MEMBERS HAVE 72 HOURS TO READ A BILL BEFORE WE VOTE ON 10:51:23 IT? ABSOLUTELY. 10:51:24 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDORSEMENT TO PLEDGE FOR 10:51:29 AMERICA. I YIELD BACK. 10:51:32 >THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. I TURN TO THE GENTLELADY FROM 10:51:41 TEXAS, MISS SHEILA JACKSON. >THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM 10:51:47 CHAIR. THIS IS CRUCIAL HEARING BECAUSE 10:51:51 I THINK IT INVOLVES THE C 10:52:01 CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES. I WANT TO SAY DR. SWAIN, I DON'T 10:52:05 DISAGREE WITH YOU THIS NATION SHOULDN'T TURN A BLIND EYE TO 10:52:08 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IN FACT WE SHOULD ENGAGE AND FRANKLY FOR 10:52:15 ALMOST A DECADE. IN MY TENURE IN THIS CONGRESS WE 10:52:19 HAVE TRIED TO FAIRLY ENGAGING THE QUESTION OF ILLEGAL 10:52:25 IMMIGRATION BY PUTTING FORWARD A PLAN OF COMPREHENSIVE 10:52:30 IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT ADDRESSES THE QUESTION OF A 10:52:35 PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, OF ACCESS TO CITIZENSHIP. 10:52:40 LAMAR SMITH AND I OVER THE YEARS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE 10:52:44 OF PROVIDING A WIDESPREAD VIEW OF AMERICANS AND CREATING JOBS 10:52:50 AND ENSURING THAT THERE'S AN INVESTMENT IN THE SKILLS OF 10:52:55 AMERICANS AND SO WE PROBABLY DON'T DISAGREE ON THAT. 10:52:59 WE FIND OURSELVES, HOWEVER, IN THE POLITICAL CLIMATE WHERE IF 10:53:07 RIGHT WAS RIGHT AND TRUTH WAS TRUTH, WE COULD NOT FIND ON THIS 10:53:14 COMMITTEE A BIPARTISAN PATHWAY TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY DEAL 10:53:18 WITH FIXING THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. 10:53:21 DOING SOME OF THE THING YOU SAID. 10:53:25 WHICH MEANS THAT WE COULD, IN FACT, MEMBERS OF THIS SIDE OF 10:53:32 THE AISLE TAKE SOME OF THOSE FEES AND INVEST IN TRAINING. 10:53:35 WE DID THAT. TRAINING NURSES, TRAINING FARM 10:53:40 WORKERS, TRAINING OTHERS AS YOU HAVE DECLARED PEOPLE HERE IN THE 10:53:42 UNITED STATES. SO, WE WISH WE COULD TAKE UP 10:53:47 YOUR CHALLENGE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 10:53:50 BUT WE FIND OURSELVES IN A DILEMMA WHERE WE CAN'T GET 10:54:00 ANYONE THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO LOOK REASONABLY 10:54:04 AT THE CRISIS THAT WE FACE. TO MR. COLBERT, LET ME SAY TO 10:54:09 YOU, YOUR TESTIMONY IS SUBMITTED AND SOMETHING I AGREE WITH. 10:54:12 THEY SAY YOU TRULY KNOW A MAN AFTER YOU WALKED A MILE IN HIS 10:54:18 SHOES AND WHILE I AM NOWHERE NEAR THE HARDSHIP OF THESE 10:54:25 IMMIGRANTS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A GLIMMER OF AN INSIGHT. 10:54:31 MR. RODRIGUEZ HOW DO YOU REBUT THE COMMENT THAT MR. SWAIN MADE 10:54:35 THAT YOUR EFFORT WAS A BOGUS EFFORT TO TRY TO FIND AMERICAN 10:54:39 WORKERS TO WORK IN THE FARMS OF AMERICA? 10:54:43 LET ME JUST FIRST RESPOND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 10:54:48 CONGRESSWOMAN LEE. WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND 10:54:52 CONCEPT SITTING DOWN WITH SOME OF THE FARM WORKERS WE 10:54:56 INTRODUCED TO YOU. HOW DO WE SENSITIZE AND INFORM 10:55:04 THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT EVERYONE HOPEFULLY CAN BETTER 10:55:06 UNDERSTAND. AS A RESULT OF THAT THE WORKERS 10:55:08 CAME UP WITH A SUGGESTION, LET'S INVITE LEGAL CITIZENS, LET'S 10:55:12 INVITE POLITICIAN, LET'S INVITE POLICYMAKERS TO COME AND WORK IN 10:55:17 THE FIELD TO UNDERSTAND FARM WORKERS ARE NOT HERE AND 10:55:20 IMMIGRANT WORKERS ARE NOT HERE TO TAKE AWAY AMERICAN JOBS. 10:55:23 AS A RESULT OF THAT, AFTER DISCUSSION, WE CAME UP WITH THE 10:55:26 IDEA OF TAKE OUR JOBS CAMPAIGN, AND CONSEQUENTLY WE RECEIVED A 10:55:32 VERY INTERESTING RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE UPON DOING THAT. 10:55:36 AND WHEN MR. COLBERT DECIDED TO ALSO INVITE US TO COME ON THE 10:55:41 SHOW AND TALK ABOUT THAT IT FURTHER GAVE MORE VISIBILITY TO 10:55:45 THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. BUT THE QUESTION IS, SHE SAID 10:55:50 THAT YOU WERE NOT SERIOUS. WE'RE VERY SERIOUS. 10:55:53 WE WANT TO PROVE A POINT. REFUTE QUICKLY YOU WERE NOT 10:55:56 SERIOUS. YOU WORK HARD AND CONTINUE TO 10:55:58 WORK HARD. IS THE PROGRAM STILL PLACE? 10:56:01 WE WORK VERY HARD. WE HAVE PEOPLE DEDICATED EVERY 10:56:04 DAY TO LISTENING TO INDIVIDUALS THAT CALL INTO US, CHECKING OUR 10:56:09 WEBSITES, TRYING TO ASSIST -- SO YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT IT 10:56:13 AND WE -- MR. COLBERT WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE OF 10:56:19 IMMIGRATION REFORM I TAKE IT YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE ARE 10:56:22 YOU SPEAKING ONLY TO FARM WORKERS OR DO YOU SEE THE VALUE 10:56:26 IN AMERICA ANSWERING THE CALL AND NOT TURNING A BLIND EYE TIME 10:56:31 INTEGRATION AND LOOKING AT IMMIGRATION COMPREHENSIVELY. 10:56:35 DO YOU THINK IT'S LONG OVERDO FOR THIS COUNTRY TO PASS A 10:56:40 COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM PLAN THAT LOOKS AT ALL ASPECTS 10:56:44 FOR THOSE WHO ARE ILLEGAL, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO COME HERE 10:56:48 AND NEED TO ACCESS OUR COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS? 10:56:51 I THINK THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY UNDOCUMENTED MEXICAN 10:56:57 WORKERS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES DOING JOBS AND WE'VE 10:57:00 IGNORED THE ISSUE FOR TOO LONG. WE NEED TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES 10:57:07 AND MANO, WHATEVER THE SPANISH WORD FOR MANO IS. 10:57:10 LET ME CONCLUDE BY SAYING I APPRECIATE MR. COLBERT, BUT I 10:57:15 HOPE THAT THIS HEARING WILL LEAD TO THE FOUNDATION FOR 10:57:19 COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM, WHICH I TRULY BELIEVE IS 10:57:22 THE UNDERPINNINGS OF WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT. 10:57:26 MR. RODRIGUEZ, NO JOB SHOULD BE DIMINISHED. 10:57:29 NO JOB. AND THE WORKERS THAT ARE BEHIND 10:57:32 YOU, THEIR JOB IS NOT DIMINISHED AND I THINK WE CAN WORK 10:57:35 ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER AND TELL AMERICA WE'RE BETTER WORKING. 10:57:38 THE INTELLIGENT LADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 10:57:42 BEFORE RECOGNIZING MR. PUGH, I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE 10:57:46 RANKING MEMBER THAT THE DEMOCRATIC RULE IS THAT ALL 10:57:49 BILLS MUST BE POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE ON THE INTERNET. 10:57:56 AND I WOULD -- I WOULD YIELD NOW TO MR. PUGH FOR HIS FIVE MINUTES 10:58:04 OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 10:58:08 SINCE I HAVE NO LIFE I ACTUALLY DO READ THE BILLS, INCLUDING THE 10:58:11 HEALTH CARE BILL. AND ALSO READ THE ARIZONA LAW, 10:58:15 UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION. 10:58:18 BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO 10:58:22 SEE A FELLOW TEXASAN, MR. RODRIGUEZ FOR BEING HERE. 10:58:28 THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES. ONE LEGAL IMMIGRATION VERSUS 10:58:35 ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. LEGAL WORKERS VERSUS ILLEGAL 10:58:40 WORKERS. THE PROBLEM IS ILLEGAL WORKERS. 10:58:42 IF THE COUNTRY NEEDS MORE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO WORK THAT'S AN 10:58:45 ISSUE TO BE SOLVED AND THE ANSWER IS NOT JUST TO ALLOW MORE 10:58:49 ILLEGALS INTO THE COUNTRY, IT'S TO SOLVE THE LEGAL PROCESS TO 10:58:53 COME HERE TO WORK AS A MIGRANT WORKER. 10:59:00 THE OTHER ISSUE IS WAGES. BASED ON WHAT YOUR WRITTEN 11:00:00 GET COMPENSATED FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO. 11:00:02 SO, LOW WAGES SEEMS TO BE THE ISSUE HERE. 11:00:07 NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO STAY IN THE 11:00:10 COUNTRY OR BE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. 11:00:13 LOW WAGES, FIX THE PROCESS TO LET PEOPLE COME IN IF WE NEED 11:00:16 THOSE WORKERS BUT DEAL WITH THE 14 MILLION UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS, 11:00:22 4.5 MILLION OF WHICH DRAWING UP TO $390 A WEEK FOR UP TO 99 11:00:31 WEEKS. NOW, DR. SWAIN I WANT TO GO BACK 11:00:33 TO SOME OF YOUR TESTIMONY AND ASK YOU TO KIND OF RECTIFY AND 11:00:39 RESOLVE THESE ISSUES THAT I HAVE JUST MENTIONED AND SEE HOW, 11:00:42 BECAUSE I REPRESENT A GREAT NUMBER OF MINORITIES IN PORT 11:00:47 ARTHUR, TEXAS, 14% OF THEM ARE UNEMPLOYED IN PORT ARTHUR, 11:00:52 TEXAS, AND HOW WOULD YOU SEE A SYSTEM TO CREATE FAIR WAGES, 11:01:02 COMPENSATED WAGES WHERE EVERYBODY IS PAYING TAXES NOT 11:01:05 JUST SOME PEOPLE PAYING TAXES HOW WOULD YOU SEE CONGRESS MOVE 11:01:09 IN A DIRECTION REGARDING LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO WORK AND ALSO 11:01:15 GETTING MORE AMERICANS WORKING? >> WELL, THE FIRST THING, I 11:01:19 THINK, THAT WE NEED TO DO IS, AS I SAID BEFORE, ENFORCE THE 11:01:25 EXISTING LAWS AND TO PUT THE EVERIFY PROGRAM THAT THE FEDERAL 11:01:34 GOVERNMENT HAS AND MANY PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THAT PROGRAM. 11:01:38 THAT PROGRAM, IF IT WAS MANDATORY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IT 11:01:42 WOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE THERE 11:01:44 ARE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON 11:01:49 THE PAYROLLS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE JOBS. 11:01:51 THESE ARE JOBS THAT SHOULD GO TO AMERICAN WORKERS AND SO I THINK 11:01:54 THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS AND THEN 11:02:00 SEE HOW MUCH SURPLUS LABOR WE MAY NEED. 11:02:02 IF WE HAVE A LABOR SHORTAGE AFTER WE ENFORCE OUR LAWS THEN 11:02:06 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS AND SEE HOW THEY 11:02:09 NEED TO BE CHANGED. I THINK IT SHOULD BE EASIER FOR 11:02:12 PEOPLE TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES LEGALLY AND THAT WE 11:02:15 SHOULD REWARD THOSE THAT DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, THAT COME 11:02:20 LEGALLY, AND NOT ALLOW THAT INTEREST, YOU KNOW, TO 11:02:25 SOMEHOW -- THE ICHBT PEOPLE THAT COME HERE LEGALLY THEY SEEM TO 11:02:29 GET THE WORST END OF THE DEAL. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE 11:02:32 IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE TRYING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, AND MANY OF 11:02:36 THEM FEEL THAT THEY WOULD GET A BETTER DEAL IF THEY WERE TO FALL 11:02:40 OUT OF STATUS AND BECOME ILLEGAL RATHER THAN TO TRY TO DO IT 11:02:45 THAT'S LEGAL. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE 11:02:47 COMMENT ABOUT THE TAKE OUR JOBS INITIATIVE. 11:02:50 THE VERY FACT THAT THEY NAMED IT TAKE OUR JOBS IS A DETERRENCE, 11:02:56 BECAUSE THE NAME ITSELF IMPLIES THE JOBS BELONG TO SOMEONE ELSE. 11:03:00 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE SAYING TAKE OUR JOBS. 11:03:02 I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO TAKE A JOB THAT 11:03:06 BELONGED TO SOMEONE ELSE. >> MR. RODRIGUEZ, LET ME ASK YOU 11:03:10 A GENERIC QUESTION. IN THE FARM WORKING INDUSTRY HOW 11:03:16 MANY, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY PEOPLE WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY 11:03:18 THAT ARE FOREIGN NATIONALS ARE LEGALLY HERE ILLEGALLY HERE. 11:03:24 CAN YOU GIVE ME A PERCENTAGE? >> SURE. 11:03:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CONGRESSMAN. 11:03:29 THE ESTIMATE IS BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR 11:03:32 ABOUT 53%. BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE AFTER 11:03:36 BEING OUT THERE ALL THE TIME PROBABLY MORE LIKE 70% TO 75% OF 11:03:41 UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS WORKING IN THE AGRICULTURE WORKFORCE TODAY. 11:03:45 >> ALL RIGHT. JUST ONE LAST COMMENT. 11:03:47 I AGREE WITH DR. SWAIN WE NEED TO FIX THE LEGAL IMMIGRATION 11:03:51 SYSTEM. IT'S TOO COMPLICATED. 11:03:53 IT TAKES TOO LONG. AND WITH THAT I WILL YIELD BACK. 11:03:57 >> THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. VERY MUCH. 11:03:59 I WILL TURN NOW TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MISS 11:04:03 WATERS FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM 11:04:07 CHAIRWOMAN. I FIND THIS HEARING TO BE MOST 11:04:10 INTERESTING, AND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IMMIGRANT WORKERS 11:04:17 ARE TAKING JOBS FROM AMERICANS AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN 11:04:23 MENTIONED AN AWFUL LOT HERE TODAY, AND I'M SO PLEASED TO 11:04:27 HEAR THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN AFRICAN-AMERICANS 11:04:30 GETTING JOBS. I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN THE FACT 11:04:34 THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE HEARING DISCUSSION ABOUT 11:04:39 INCREASED WAGES WHEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST STRUGGLES WE'VE HAD IN 11:04:43 THIS CONGRESS IS INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE. 11:04:45 AND SO THIS IS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO ME AS I LISTEN TO SOME OF THE 11:04:53 INTERESTS, PARTICULARLY OF SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OPPOSITE 11:04:56 SIDE OF THE AISLE. LET ME JUST SAY THIS THAT, OF 11:05:00 COURSE, THERE ARE AMERICANS AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO WOULD WORK 11:05:04 ON SOME OF THESE JOBS BUT LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU FOR PEOPLE IN MY 11:05:10 DISTRICT THIS IS NOT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE KIND OF JOB 11:05:13 THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. I IMAGINE VERY DESPERATE ONES 11:05:18 WOULD TAKE SOME OF THESE JOBS FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME IF 11:05:22 THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, IF IT CONCERNED THEIR SURVIVAL, BUT IF 11:05:28 I HAD TO SUPPORT SUBSIDIZING CORPORATIONS TO HIRE WORKERS, I 11:05:35 WOULD NOT PUT MY EMPHASIS ON FARM LABOR. 11:05:38 I WOULD PUT MY EMPHASIS ON CONSTRUCTION JOBS, FOR EXAMPLE, 11:05:43 IN MY DISTRICT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WELL EDUCATED 11:05:49 ASK FOR AND SEEK OUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON 11:05:53 CONSTRUCTION JOBS. WE HAD ONE PROGRAM THAT WAS 11:05:58 LAYING FIBER OPTIC THAT MANY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO DID NOT 11:06:04 HAVE SKILLS LEARNED TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK, SO WHETHER WE'RE 11:06:09 TALKING ABOUT IN CONSTRUCTION, OR COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY, 11:06:15 WHERE TRAINING IS AVAILABLE AND POSSIBLE, I WOULD SUBSIDIZE 11:06:21 EMPLOYERS TO INCREASE THOSE KIND OF JOBS. 11:06:25 I WOULD ALSO SUBSIDIZE EMPLOYERS TO BRING JOBS FROM OFFSHORE BACK 11:06:31 INTO THE UNITED STATES WHERE THEY WOULD BE IN THE INNER 11:06:33 CITIES AND IN THE URBAN AREAS BECAUSE THIS BUSINESS OF TALKING 11:06:39 ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FROM URBAN AREAS TO RURAL AREAS IS JUST 11:06:43 UNREAL. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS WORK 11:06:51 B WORKABLE. 11:06:52 I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION 11:06:56 REFORM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. 11:06:59 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY FRIEND, MR. RODRIGUEZ, WHO I'VE KNOWN 11:07:02 FOR MANY YEARS AND PROUD TO SAY THAT I WAS IN THE CALIFORNIA 11:07:07 LEGISLATURE WHEN HOWARD BERMAN LED THE WAY ON ALL OF THE 11:07:11 REFORMS THAT HE DID FOR IMMIGRANT WORKERS, WORKING WITH 11:07:16 CESAR CHAVEZ AND I THINK HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND 11:07:21 ORGANIZERS OF OUR TIME. LET ME ASK YOU, IMMIGRATION 11:07:26 REFORM, IF WE TALK ABOUT ALLOWING CITIZENSHIP TO BE MADE 11:07:33 AVAILABLE TO FARM WORKERS, HOW WOULD YOU FRAME THAT? 11:07:37 WOULD YOU SAY THAT IF YOU'VE BEEN HERE WORKING WITHOUT PAPERS 11:07:44 FOR FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS, TWO YEARS, TEN YEARS YOU SHOULD BE 11:07:49 AFFORD CITIZENSHIP, HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? 11:07:51 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CONGRESSWOMAN WATERS. 11:07:54 IN FACT WE DO HAVE A SOLUTION AND THE LEGISLATION THAT MR. 11:07:59 BERMAN AND THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE CONGRESS ADAM PUTNAM HAVE 11:08:04 PUT TOGETHER AND FASHIONED IS TO DEAL WITH THE AGRICULTURE 11:08:07 INDUSTRY SPECIFICALLY IS THAT A WORKER THAT WORKED 150 DAYS IN 11:08:11 AGRICULTURE IN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BECOME 11:08:15 PART OF THE AG JOBS PROGRAM AS WE CALL THE LEGISLATION. 11:08:19 BUT FARM WORKERS WOULD NOT GET AUTOMATIC LEGALIZATION AS WE 11:08:23 TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THEY WOULD BE PUT INTO A PROGRAM OF EARNED 11:08:28 LEGALIZATION WHEREBY THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE WORKING IN 11:08:30 AGRICULTURE FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 11:08:33 IN ADDITION, THEY WOULD BE PAID UPWARDS OF $500 MILLION OVERALL 11:08:39 WITHIN THE ENTIRE GROUP OF FINES FOR BEING HERE AND COMING INTO 11:08:43 THE COUNTRY UNDOCUMENTED. >> I'LL GET TO THAT. 11:08:48 LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THIS IN WITH REGARDS TO 11:08:52 IMMIGRATION REFORM. WOULD YOU SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT 11:08:55 FINES FOR EMPLOYERS WHO BREAK THE LAW? 11:08:58 >> ONCE WE GET THIS SETTLED AND ONCE WE DEAL WITH THIS 11:09:01 PARTICULAR ISSUE, YES, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN ENFORCEMENT 11:09:04 POLICY PUT INTO PLACE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE CONTINUED 11:09:08 IMMIGRANTS COMING IN THAT WOULD VIOLATE THOSE LAWS. 11:09:11 >> DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOME IMMIGRANTS WHO SHOULD BE 11:09:15 DEPORTED FOR SOME REASON, WHETHER THEY ARE CRIMINALS OR 11:09:18 SOME OTHER KINDS OF REASON? >> IF A IMMIGRANT HAS COMMITTED 11:09:23 SERIOUS LAWS WITHIN OUR COUNTRY YES THAT'S A REASON FOR THEIR 11:09:27 DEPORTATION AT THIS TIME. >> WOULD YOU SUPPORT AN 11:09:32 IMMIGRATION REFORM OF SOME WAY OF KEEPING FAMILIES TOGETHER 11:09:38 WHERE YOU HAVE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE 11:09:41 FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, CHILDREN WERE BORN HERE, THEY ARE LEGAL 11:09:45 AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE MOTHER OR FATHER MAY BE FACED 11:09:50 WITH DEPORTATION, HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH THAT? 11:09:52 >> THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED SO WE'LL ASK HIM TO 11:09:56 ANSWER. >> THANK YOU. 11:09:57 >> I WOULD SUPPORT ANY IMMIGRATION REFORM COMPREHENSIVE 11:10:01 OR THE DREAM ACT THATTED TO WORK KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER. 11:10:04 THAT'S THE BASIS OF OUR SOCIETY TO HAVE FAMILIES TOGETHER, 11:10:07 IMMIGRANT FAMILIES DON'T TOGETHER JUST LIKE ANY OTHER 11:10:10 AMERICAN FAMILY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 11:10:12 >> THANK YOU. WE TURN NOW TO MR. LUNDGREN FOR 11:10:18 HIS FIVE MINUTES. >> MIGHT RESPOND WHEN YOU SAY 11:10:21 THERE'S A DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RULE OF A 72 HOUR NOTICE. 11:10:25 PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO INFORM YOUR LEADERSHIP SINCE JUST THREE 11:10:28 WEEKS AGO I RECEIVED NO NOTICE OF A BILL THAT CONTAINED PART OF 11:10:35 A BILL I INTRODUCED TO GET RID OF THE 1099 REQUIREMENT ON SMALL 11:10:39 BUSINESS THAT'S IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL. 11:10:41 OUR LEADERSHIP WAS GIVEN TEN SECONDS NOTICE. 11:10:44 TEN SECONDS NOTICE. >> WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD. 11:10:47 >> HAPPY IF YOU CAN GIVE ME MORE THAN TEN SECONDS. 11:10:49 >>IT'S NOT A DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RULE, IT'S A HOUSE RULE. 11:10:53 AND THE MEASURE THAT THE GENTLEMAN IS DISCUSSING WAS 11:10:56 ACTUALLY ON THE SUSPENSION CALENDAR WHICH HAS A 11:11:00 DIFFERENT -- >> OKAY. 11:11:01 THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE 72 HOUR RULE. 11:11:04 >> ON THE SUSPENSION CALENDAR. >> SO LONG AS YOU ARE IN 11:11:07 COMMAND. WHICH REQUIRES A TWO-THIRDS 11:11:10 VOTE. >> I UNDERSTAND. 11:11:12 TEN SECONDS IS NOT 72 HOURS AND PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO INFORM YOUR 11:11:16 LEADERSHIP OF THAT RATHER THAN THE CAUCUS. 11:11:18 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. RODRIGUEZ THIS. 11:11:20 IF YOU ESTIMATE THAT 75% OF THOSE WORKING IN THE FIELDS ARE 11:11:25 HERE ILLEGALLY, 25%, I PRESUME ARE HERE LEGALLY. 11:11:30 HOW ARE WE ABLE TO ATTRACT THAT 25% SINCE PRESUMABLY THEY ARE 11:11:36 SUBJECTED TO THE SAME PRICE STRUCTURE AND WORKING CONDITIONS 11:11:40 AS OTHERS? >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 11:11:45 CONGRESSMAN. AS I INTRODUCED THE INDIVIDUALS 11:11:47 THAT ARE HERE, THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FARM WORKERS THAT 11:11:51 ARE HERE LEGALLY, WORKING HERE LEGALLY THAT HAVE BEEN IN 11:11:55 AGRICULTURE A LONG TIME. THE ONES I JUST INTRODUCED TO 11:12:00 YOU. THEY'VE BEEN HERE, WORKED HARD. 11:12:02 THEY ENJOY WORKING WITH THE EMPLOYERS, THEY ENJOY THE WORK 11:12:05 AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO. THEY HAVE GOOD WAGES WHERE THEY 11:12:08 WORK AT, THEY HAVE GOOD BENEFITS, MEDICAL PLAN, PENSION 11:12:11 PLAN, VACATIONS, PAID HOLIDAYS LIKE ANY OTHER AMERICAN WORKER 11:12:15 HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> SO, YOUR TELLING US THAT THE 11:12:19 25% THAT ARE SUCCESSFULLY RECRUITED TO THE AGRICULTURAL 11:12:24 FIELDS ARE RECRUITED SUCCESSFULLY BECAUSE THEY GET 11:12:28 APPROPRIATE WAGES AND THEY GET APPROPRIATE WORKING CONDITIONS? 11:12:31 >> I THINK THAT'S ONE FACTOR. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE 11:12:35 EMPLOYERS THAT HAVE UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS WORKING WITH THEM ALSO 11:12:40 OFTENTIMES WANT TO SEE THOSE EMPLOYEES CONTINUE WORKING WITH 11:12:43 THEM. >> I REALIZE THAT. 11:12:45 THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS, I'M TRYING TO 11:12:48 WORK THIS THING OUT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOUR PREMISE IS 11:12:52 THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO THE FIELDS BECAUSE 11:12:56 AMERICANS WON'T TAKE THOSE JOBS, YOU THEN TELL ME THAT 25% OF 11:13:00 THOSE PEOPLE IN THE FIELDS ARE AMERICANS, SO MY QUESTION IS, 11:13:03 HOW ARE WE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY ATTRACT THEM SEAN IT DIFFERENT 11:13:07 THAN THE CONDITIONS AND WAGES AVAILABLE TO THE OTHER 75 AND IF 11:13:11 THAT BE SO, COULD WE ATTRACT A LARGER NUMBER OF AMERICANS 11:13:16 REPLICATING WHAT WE DO FOR THAT 25% THAT ARE AMERICANS WORKING 11:13:20 IN THE SNEELD. >> OUR SOLUTION IS REALISTIC 11:13:22 RIGHT NOW AND PRACTICAL. THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY NEEDS 11:13:26 THESE WORKERS NOW. THEY HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT THEY 11:13:29 WORK WITH NOW FOR MANY YEARS. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS TO GIVE THEM 11:13:32 THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LEGAL STATUS IN THIS COUNTRY. 11:13:35 >> UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. 11:13:37 >> AS A RESULT OF THAT, CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE, WAGES 11:13:41 WILL IMPROVE. THE LIKELIHOOD OF AMERICAN 11:13:45 CONSUMERS HAVING A GOOD SAFE FOOD SUPPLY WILL ALSO BE TAKEN 11:13:48 CARE OF. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOTH YOU 11:13:50 AND MR. GLAIZE, IS IT AN ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL TO THE AG 11:13:56 JOBS BILL THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT ON THE 11:14:00 WORKERS' SIDE ARE ALLOWED TO BE O 11:14:08 ON THE PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AND BE PUT IN FRONT LINE OF OTHERS 11:14:14 WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW. >> THEY WOULD NOT BE PUT IN THE 11:14:17 FRONT OF THE LINE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK 11:14:20 MINIMALLY FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS TO BE QUALIFIED TO 11:14:24 GET A GREEN CARD. THEY WOULD NOT GET A GREEN CARD 11:14:29 UNTIL AFTER THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN AGRICULTURE 11:14:32 FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. >> OKAY. 11:14:35 >> THEN THEY CAN GATE GREEN CARD WHICH DOESN'T PUT THEM IN FRONT 11:14:38 OF THE LINE JUST GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY THEN TO GO -- 11:14:41 >> LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. ONE OF THE MAJOR SENDING 11:14:47 COUNTRIES IS MEXICO. HOW LONG DOES ONE HAVE TO WAIT 11:14:51 IN MEXICO IF ONE WANTS TO GET IN LINE TO GET LEGAL ENTRY TO THE 11:14:57 UNITED STATES AND WORK TOWARDS A GREEN CARD? 11:14:58 >> I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA BECAUSE 11:15:02 THE WORKERS THAT I WORK WITH, UNFORTUNATELY, COME -- 11:15:06 >> THAT'S THE QUESTION WHETHER THEY ARE IN FRONT LINE OR NOT. 11:15:09 IF PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT LONGER THAN THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS 11:15:13 OR EIGHT YEARS OR TEN YEARS TO WAIT IN THE LINE GET IN LEGALLY 11:15:18 THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING PUT IN FRONT OF THE LINE. 11:15:21 >> CAN I CLARIFY THAT? >> JUST ASK MR. GLAIZE IS IT 11:15:25 ESSENTIAL TO YOUR PROGRAM, MR. GLAIZE THAT THEY BE PUT ON THE 11:15:29 PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER TYPE OF LEGAL STATUS? 11:15:33 >> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED SO WE'LL ASK MR. GLAIZE 11:15:36 TO RESPOND. >> LET ME SAY THANK YOU VERY 11:15:38 MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO ACTUALLY FIX THIS PROBLEM. 11:15:43 IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE WORKERS THAT ARE HERE NOW BE ALLOWED TO 11:15:48 HAVE WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR A PERIOD OF X NUMBER OF YEARS. 11:15:52 THE AG JOBS CONTEMPLATES A FIXING OF THE H2A PROGRAM WHICH 11:15:59 WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WORK TOWERS PICK THESE 11:16:02 CROPS. THAT'S OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE. 11:16:04 IN THE MEAN TIME I CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE A CROP ONE YEAR. 11:16:08 NOW THE STATUS DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK THAT'S A PART OF OUR 11:16:14 AMERICAN WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY. 11:16:17 AND PUTTING THEM AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE I AGREE WITH MR. 11:16:21 RODRIGUEZ, NO THEY DON'T GO THE FRONT OF THE LINE. 11:16:24 THEY WILL HAVE WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR A PERIOD OF 11:16:26 YEARS AND THEN THEY CAN SEEK THEIR CITIZENSHIP AT THAT TIME. 11:16:29 >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I RECOGNIZE THE GENTLELADY 11:16:34 FROM CALIFORNIA, MISS SANCHEZ. FIVE MINUTES. 11:16:37 >> THANK YOU MARKS DAM CHAIRWOMAN. 11:16:40 THANK YOU TO ALL THE PANELIST WHOSE ARE HERE TODAY. 11:16:43 I'VE HEARD SO MANY INTERESTING AND SOMEWHAT, I THINK, 11:16:47 OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS TODAY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN 11:16:51 WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONING. I JUST WANT TO START BY MAKING 11:16:56 AN OBSERVATION. IF AS SOME MEMBERS OF THE PANEL 11:16:59 HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THESE IMMIGRANT WORKERS ARE TAKING 11:17:02 JOBS THAT AMERICANS WANT THEN I WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE 11:17:08 ZERO UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR AND I WOULD 11:17:13 EXPECT THAT MANY, MANY AMERICANS WOULD BE RUSHING DURING THIS 11:17:16 TOUGH ECONOMIC TIME TO TAKE THESE JOBS AND YET MR. RODRIGUEZ 11:17:21 HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU SAY ACTUALLY INQUIRED ABOUT GOING 11:17:24 OUT TO TAKE A JOB IN THE FIELDS? >> WE HAD ABOUT 3 MILLION HITS 11:17:30 ON OUR WEBSITE SINCE JUNE 24th. OF THAT GROUP 8600 WERE SERIOUS 11:17:36 ABOUT TRYING APPLY FOR IT. AND OF THAT GROUP WE HAVE 11:17:40 DOCUMENTED SEVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING OUT IN THE 11:17:43 FIELDS RIGHT NOW. >> DID THOSE SEVEN REMAIN IN 11:17:45 THAT JOB? >> AS FAR AS WE KNOW RIGHT NOW 11:17:47 THEY ARE STILL WORKING THERE, YES. 11:17:49 >> BUT THERE WAS A HUGE DROP OFF BETWEEN THE INQUIRIES BETWEEN 11:17:58 THOSE THAT SIGNED UP AND ACTUALLY WENT TO WORK. 11:18:01 >> INCREDIBLE DROP OFF SNIPE THINK THE TAKE OUR JOBS ACT 11:18:05 CAMPAIGN, I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT IF YOU JUST 11:18:08 CALLED IT TAKE A JOB CAMPAIGN THAT THOSE 8,000 PEOPLE WOULD 11:18:11 ALL BE WORKING IN THE FIELD TODAY BUT THAT'S JUST MY 11:18:14 PERSONAL OPINION. I DON'T THINK THE SEMANTICS OF 11:18:17 WHAT YOU CALL THE CAMPAIGN S-ONCE PEOPLE PROBABLY FIGURED 11:18:20 OUT WHAT THE WORK ACTUALLY ENTAILED THAT'S WHERE THE BIG 11:18:24 DROP OFF CAME. WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S MAYBE AN 11:18:27 ACCURATE ASSESSMENT, MR. RODRIGUEZ? 11:18:29 >> YES. WE WERE NOT TRYING -- WE DIDN'T 11:18:32 GO TO ANY EXPERTS TO DESIGN THIS CAMPAIGN. 11:18:34 AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY MY TESTIMONY WAS FARM WORKERS WHO 11:18:39 SUGGESTED TO INVITE PEOPLE TO COME AND WORK IN THE FIELDS 11:18:43 BECAUSE THEY WERE TIRED OF HEARING ALL THE CRITICISM THAT 11:18:45 THEY AS FARM WORKERS, AS IMMIGRANTS TAKE AWAY AMERICAN 11:18:49 JOBS. >> THANK YOU, I'M NOT TRYING TO 11:18:51 CUT YOU OFF. I WANT TO GET THROUGH SOME OF 11:18:53 THESE QUESTIONS. THE NEXT POINT I FIND INCREDIBLY 11:18:56 INTEREST IS I'M HEARING FROM COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 11:18:59 THE AISLE AND SOME OF THE PANELISTS THE REASON WHY 11:19:02 AMERICANS DON'T TAKE THESE JOBS IS BECAUSE, GOSH, THE PAY ISN'T 11:19:06 HIGH ENOUGH. AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING 11:19:08 CONDITIONS ARE BAD. AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING 11:19:12 BECAUSE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG MOST AGRICULTURE WORKERS IN THIS 11:19:17 COUNTRY AREN'T COVERED BY COMPENSATION LAW, MINIMUM WAGE 11:19:21 LAW, OVERTIME LAW, RIGHT TO ORGANIZE. 11:19:23 AM I CORRECT IN STATING THAT, MR. RODRIGUEZ? 11:19:26 >> YES, YOUR. >> SO, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF 11:19:29 YOU REALLY WANT THE WAGES TO GO UP IN THIS INDUSTRY US A SAY DO 11:19:32 YOU SO THAT THEN AMERICAN WORKERS WOULD WANT THIS JOB THAT 11:19:35 MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AND SOME OF THE 11:19:39 PANELISTS WOULD BE ADVOCATES FOR LABOR REFORM PARTICULARLY IN THE 11:19:42 AGRICULTURAL SECTOR AND YET I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME SOME 11:19:47 INFORMATION REGARDING SOME VOTES THAT WE'VE TAKEN HERE IN 11:19:49 CONGRESS ON SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WOULD HELP RAISE WAGES FOR 11:19:53 WORKERS LIKE HR 2 THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE, INCREASING IT BY 11:20:00 $2.10 OVER TWO YEARS FROM $5.15. I NOTE MR. KING AND MR. LUNDGREN 11:20:08 ALL VOTED NO ON THAT PARTICULAR BILL. 11:20:11 I FIND IT CONTRADICTORY FOR THEM TO SAY THE WAGES NEED TO BE 11:20:15 HIGHER BUT WHEN WE TRY TO RAISE WAGES FOR WORKERS ACROSS THIS 11:20:20 COUNTRY THEY VOTE NO. >> WOULD THE GENTLELADY YIELD. 11:20:24 >> I WILL NOT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I WANT TO 11:20:27 ASK. MR. GLAIZE YOU SPOKE OF THE 11:20:28 NUMBER OF FARMS INCLUDING MANY IN MY HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA 11:20:31 WHO HAVE MOVED OR ARE CONSIDERING MOVING THEIR 11:20:35 OPERATIONS OVERSEAS AND I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU TALK IN A LITTLE 11:20:38 BIT GREATER DETAIL ABOUT WHY A FARM WOULD MOVE OPERATIONS TO 11:20:42 ANOTHER COUNTRY, AND WHAT THAT DOES TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES IN 11:20:46 THIS COUNTRY WHEN THOSE FARMS RELOCATE AND HOW CAN WE REDUCE 11:20:50 THE INCENTIVE FOR THOSE FARMS TO RELOCATE IN OTHER COUNTRIES? 11:20:55 >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN. ESSENTIALLY I'M A SMALL BUSINESS 11:20:59 PERSON. I NEED TO MAKE A PROFIT. 11:21:01 I OPERATE BY SUPPLY AND DEMAND. WORLD SUPPLY. 11:21:07 AND ESSENTIALLY IF A FARM IS GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO GROW 11:21:13 HARVEST, PACK AND SELL ITS CROP AT A PROFIT, THEN THAT FARM SER 11:21:16 GOING TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS, THAT FOOD THAT THE FARMER WAS 11:21:22 PRODUCING WILL COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 11:21:25 OUR APPLES COMPETE WITH CAN CHILEAN APPLES. 11:21:36 IF I CANNOT CONTINUE TO GROW AND PRODUCE AMS AND SELL THEM AT A 11:21:41 PROFIT, I'LL GO OUT OF BUSINESS, I WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PASS 11:21:47 ON. >> EVERYBODY SUPPORTED BY THAT 11:21:50 BUSINESS WOULD LOSE THEIR JOBS AS WELL? 11:21:53 >> CERTAINLY. BY THE TIME WE REINVEST $1.6 11:21:59 MILLION TO GET OUR CROP READY ON THE TREE THAT'S SPREAD OUT. 11:22:03 >> FINAL QUESTION. MR. COLBERT AFTER YOUR 11:22:05 EXPERIENCE OF WORKING ON THE FIELDS WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO 11:22:08 PAY YOU AS A CAREER DAY IN AND DAY OUT 365 DAYS A YEAR? 11:22:13 >> WHATEVER THE MINIMUM WAGE IS. ING? 11:22:16 >> THANK YOU. >> THE GENTLELADY'S TIME IS 11:22:19 EXPIRED. WE TURN NOW TO THE RANKING 11:22:21 MEMBER MR. KING FOR HIS FIVE MINUTES. 11:22:23 >> THANK YOU MARKS DAM CHAIR. AS I LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY 11:22:26 HERE I'VE ACCUMULATED A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE 11:22:32 REBUTTED NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE MINIMUM WAGE ISSUE. 11:22:37 MR. GLAIZE PACE HIS WORKERS $93 A DAY FOR NINE HOURS WORK. 11:22:41 THAT WORKS OUT TO BE $10.33 AN HOUR AND TO HEAR MISS SANCHEZ 11:22:47 SAY THAT ARE THERE NOT LAWS THAT APPLY TO AG WORKERS AND IT'S 11:22:52 TRUE TO SOME DEGREE AND WE NEED JUST TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM 11:22:55 WAGE SO WE CAN INCREASE THE WAGES TO FARM WORKERS AND BE 11:22:58 ACCUSE EVIDENCE LET ME SAME INCONSISTENT WITH THE RATIONALE. 11:23:06 IF MR. GLAIZE IS PAYING WHAT HE SAYS AND THE MINIMUM WAGE IN THE 11:23:09 UNITED STATES IS CURRENTLY $7.25 AN HOUR THERE MUST BE A REASON 11:23:12 MR. GLAIZE PAYS MORE THAN THE MINIMUM WAGE AND THAT'S CALLED 11:23:16 SUPPLY AND DEMAND AS I HEARD SOME OF THE WITNESSES REFERENCE 11:23:19 AND DR. SWAIN WOULD ADDRESS THAT WITHIN THAT CONTEXT. 11:23:22 I HAVE SAID LABOR IS A COMMODITY. 11:23:24 I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AS LABOR. I SPENT MORE TIME IN LABOR THAN 11:23:29 ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS PANEL. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SUPPLY AND 11:23:33 DEMAND. I LOOKED AT PEOPLE THAT COMPETED 11:23:39 AGAINST ME FOR THOSE JOBS. I STARTED ON THE PIPELINE IN THE 11:23:45 CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS BUT THOSE WORKERS THAT DUG DITCH BY HAND 11:23:48 AND IF THEY GOT TIRED AND COULDN'T DIG AND THEY HAD TO 11:23:52 STOP AND REST ON THE SHOVEL SOMEBODY WAS ASSISTING ON THE 11:23:55 DIRT PILE TO COME DOWN AND TAKE THE SHOVEL OUT OF THEIR HAND. 11:23:59 THESE WERE AMERICANS LINED UP TO TAKE THE JOB. 11:24:01 THE BACK OF THE LINE PIECE OF THIS, MR. RODRIGUEZ'S TESTIMONY 11:24:04 THAT THEY WOULD GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. 11:24:07 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT LINE IS. 11:24:10 IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINES IN EACH OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE 11:24:13 HAVE LINED UP TO LEGALLY APPLY TO COME TO AMERICA AND I HAVE 11:24:17 GREAT RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. 11:24:21 BUT THAT LINE IS ABOUT 50 MILLION LONG. 11:24:24 IF YOU ADD UP THE ACCUMULATED VISAS OUT THERE IN THE VARIOUS 11:24:30 VARIETIES WE HAVE AND WAITING TIME WE HAVE FROM MEXICO, WE 11:24:33 KNOW THAT IS SEVERAL YAERNS IT MIGHT BE SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE 11:24:38 YEARS. IT'S ABOUT THAT PER OF TIME EVEN 11:24:40 TO BRING IN A FAMILY MEMBER FROM, LET'S SAY A FOREIGN 11:24:43 COUNTRY. SO THE BACK OF THE LINE, IF 11:24:45 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BASKET LINE IT'S BEHIND THE 50 11:24:48 MILLION. NOT IN FRONT OF THE 50 MILLION. 11:24:51 THEN I OFTEN HEAR THE STATEMENT THAT THEY WOULD WYNTON CONTEXT 11:24:56 OF THE BROADER VERSION OF COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM 11:24:59 THAT THEY WOULD LEARN ENGLISH AND PAY A FINE AND THE FINES 11:25:03 START OUT AT $500 AND WENT TO $750 THEN PERHAPS $1500. 11:25:10 LEARNING ENGLISH IS NOT A PENALTY.

COLOR FILM. AUDIO FROM FOOTAGE IS NOT LICENSABLE. THIS IS HISTORICAL TRAVEL LOG FILM TAKEN IN AND AROUND THE STATE OF UTAH AROUND 1947.

Tourism film for Reno Nevada. Good establishing shots of Reno and surrounding areas. Exterior shots of Bank clubs (casinos), but no interior shots. Divorce ranches and activities at them: panning for gold (with old prospector with a donkey), milking cows (incorrectly), feeding animals, horseback riding. Good rodeo footage. Woman, after getting divorced, hugs column at courthouse and takes off wedding ring and throws it into the river.

Streets of Manhattan New York City crowded with pedestrians prior to World War II. Views of Americans at work: miners; farmers; factory workers; office workers. A drafting room. Montage of inventions in America: lightning rod atop roof; cotton gin in operation; telegrapher using a key; anesthetists in operating theater; rotary newspaper printing press; a telephone; an arc welder; early incandescent lamp; early submarines; steam turbine; 4-engine high wing airliner; early X-ray tube; gyroscope compass; singer sewing machine; early television; farmer hooks cows to mechanical milking machine, cat expresses dismay at not getting milk; architectural draftsmen at work; rows of apartment buildings; automobiles crowding roads; sanitation street sweeper truck at work; eggs and dairy products in refrigerated case; Surgical team in an operating theater; Scenes in a modern U.S. hospital; children being cared for, and in schools and colleges; Soldiers marching during World War I; U.S. soldiers marching in World War II; people relaxing on crowded beach; recreational hunting and fishing activity; A football game in progress; a baseball game; horseracing; track and field events; a rodeo; a basketball game; golfing; Ten pin bowling; boys play marbles; frog jumping contest; skiing; springboard diving; motorboat racing; water skiing;ice skaters with sails; Joe Louis boxing with Max Schmeling in 1938; auto racing with cars crashing; Railroad timetables in a rack; Henry Dreyfuss Commodore Vanderbilt New York Central locomotive and interior of dining car; 1935 Chevrolet sedan pulling a trailer; Road sign "Arizona welcomes you"; Motorcycle policeman pulls driver over; roadside motor hotel; girl serving at drive-in diner; signs for hot dogs, beer, cheesburgers; workers preparing sandwiches, pancakes,bacon and eggs, coffee and coca cola, using some machinery; Customers eating at a lunch counter; Welcome sign at Van Nuys California with symbols for Kiwanis, American Legion, Rotary; a Delta Sigma Phi fraternity building. Scene of a person's hand signing a membership certificate document for the Calibou Lake Mountain Club. Location: United States USA. Date: 1940.

b&w educational narrated war documentary - patriotic American scenes - propaganda - Americana - U.S. isolationism, involvement, montage of American work force - some brief clips - democratic ideal - democracy iris of camera opens - moving pov U.S.A. before WWII - h/a past crowded city street - pedestrians - workers - farmers in field - work on ranch, farm - c/u man at work bench - white collar worker at desk - architects at draft tables progress - inventiveness - inventors - technology - c/u lightning rod - cotton gin - c/u telegraph operator - ether - anesthesia - c/u medical doctor and nurse - c/u rotary printing press - c/u telephone - electric welder, sparks - incandescent lamp - h/a and w/s naval submarine - sailors - steam turbines air-to-air motor driven airplane - X-ray tube - gyroscope - compass - woman sews w/ Singer sewing machine - early television set - monitor w/ female dancer on screen (interior home) farm - interior barn - farmer w/ son milk cows, kitten nearby - h/a down to room full of draftsmen - standard of living - w/s city street w/ two lanes of traffic - apartment buildings - cars on road - traffic - sanitation - c/u street cleaning machine brushes - food products - jars - fruit on shelves - Velveeta Cheese - medical care - h/a down to operation, surgery in progress - establish & interior hospital - doctor w/ patient at bedside - nurse w/ small child - newborn baby boomers - nursery - infants / babies on kiddy ride - c/u girls eat, walk to school - interior Kindergarten - exterior Vine Street public school - entrance - children, students run out exterior 3 & 4 story private school - c/u trade school, brick building wall - High school - dx & evening classes - exterior school, students on college campus montage of American work force - some brief clips - democratic ideal - democracy, WWI - h/a down soldiers march to war - WWII soldiers march to war - statistics - comparisons, recreation, sports - w/s h/a down to beach, vacation spot - duck hunting - sports, football, baseball, horseracing - sprinters, rodeo, basketball - golfers, bowlers, marble shooters - c/u female dives backwards into pool off Beverly Hills hotel diving board - speed boats - two female water skiers - man crashes on water in small high speed craft - ice wind surfers (oddity) c/u professional boxers in ring - l/s race car drivers on track - car crashes - travel - c/u road maps on stand - steam train towards camera - interior train - dining car - car w/ trailer on country road - moving pov along highway - scenery, Arizona state welcome sign - motorcycle cop stops speeding car - exterior Portal Motor Hotel modern conveniences - fast food female server - (shots above are all available to order as 2K DPX or HD from 16mm film, see shots NTV-0061_013 through _017) (Food montage is SD only - no film available) food signs - Cheeseburgers - sandwich being prepared c/u Hot Dog & Beer sign - Coke machine - steak & eggs - cup of coffee being poured - c/u Coke bottle & opener, 8 slice toaster (professional use) - meat sandwiches - pie - pancake flipper - automated servings - patrons in diner or coffee shop eat & drink at counter - restaurant - food counter

Both the pretty Kansas ladies and the prize cows are all dolled up for the annual milking contest and selection of Miss Bovine America. Lady Skylark Alcarta Conductor is picked "best cow" in the competition.

01:18:29:00,Milky Way Galaxy, Map of New York State, Upstate lakes, valleys, hills, plains, Farmer at work, Corn field, cows in field, Cows chew grass in pasture (Gurnseys), Lots and lots of cows, Milk truck on highway, Steam train, freight train, Cartons of milk on conveyor belt (NICE), Milk bottles filled, Prety woman waves from boat, Milk poured into glass with sandwich, Milk poured over fruit, cereal, Diet plate of food Milk poured into sauce pan, Little girl drinks glass of milk, 1800s scientists at work in lab (Pasteaur?), Books with years 1890-1912 panned, 1900s scientist speaks in f ront of blackboard speaks of the great health benefits of milk, Trade magazines tossed on top of another (mostly with agricultural bent), Doctor speaks to teenager about nutrition, Couple on golf course, drive in convertible, play tennis, on sailboat, man tees off, three teens on bicycles, people in nice public pool, Handsome couple walk away from camera (heroic), Logo of State of New York

House Budget committee begins its markup of 10 year House Republican budget plan 17:00:00 AMERICAN EATS, AND WE CAN PROTECT THEM FROM FOOD-BORNE 17:00:02 ILLNESS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT 17:00:04 THIS AMENDMENT, AND I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO 17:00:10 MR. PRESCREL. I THANK McMcCALLUM FOR 17:00:15 PRESENTING THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT 17:00:19 AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT ENSURES THAT THE 17:00:23 HISTORIC FOOD SAFETY LEGISLATION SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT 17:00:29 OBAMA WILL BE FULLY FUNDED. MANY OF THE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES 17:00:34 OF THE AISLE VOTED FOR THAT LEGISLATION. 17:00:38 THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO HAVE ENOUGH INSPECTORS ON THE GROUND 17:00:42 TO KEEP OUR FOOD SUPPLY SAFE. I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENT THAT THE 17:00:47 UNITED STATES' FOOD SUPPLY IS 99.9% SAFE, AND THAT MARKET 17:00:55 FORCES SUCH AS COMPETITION, BRAND NAME VALUE, AND THE 17:01:01 ABILITY TO SUE -- GOD BLESS YOU -- ARE SUFFICIENT TO ENSURE 17:01:05 FOOD SAFETY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE AT 17:01:09 ALL. THE 99.9% FIGURE WAS FACED ON 17:01:17 VERY SIMPLE MATH AND REFLECTS THE CHANCE YOU WILL GET SICK 17:01:20 EATING THE NEXT MEAL. YES, THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH AN 17:01:23 INDIVIDUAL MEAL IS LOW. WE EAT OVER 1,000 MEALS A YEAR. 17:01:28 ADD UP THE AMERICANS, 1 IN 6, GETTING SICK 17:01:37 FROM FOOD EACH YEAR. THAT IS A FACT. 17:01:40 YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION AND I'M ENTITLED TO THE FACTS. 17:01:48 ECONOMISTS AT USDA CONCLUDED THAT THE C OF FOOD-BORNE 17:01:54 ILLNESSES ARE SHARED BY MANY SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY WHICH 17:01:59 LIMITS INCENTIVES TO FIRMS TO PRODE SAFER FOOD. 17:02:02 IF WE CUT SPENDING AS THE MAJORITY PROPOSES, THERE WILL 17:02:07 NOT BE NEARLY ENOUGH MEAT INSPECTORS ON THE GROUND. 17:02:10 I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT CHANCE. 17:02:11 I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THE AMENDMENT. 17:02:14 THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. IF YOU'VE BEEN IN A SITUATION 17:02:16 WHERE MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TAKEN ILL BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY 17:02:19 ATE IN GOOD FAITH. THANK YOU. 17:02:22 YIELD BACK. >SEE FOOD SALADS APRIL 1st, 17:02:48 FISH APRIL 31st, SPROUTS MARCH 25th, BUBBLE GUM MARCH 23rd, 17:02:54 FRESH CANTALOUPE MARCH 18th, PEPPERS MARCH 14, SANDWICHES 17:02:59 MARCH 12th, CO-COW NUT WATER MARCH 11th, CHOCOLATE MILK MARCH 17:03:05 10th. THESE ARE ALL RECALLS, AND IT'S 17:03:09 PRETTY UGLY STUFF THAT WAS IN THEM. 17:03:11 I'VE GOT PAGES OF THIS. THEY'RE HAPPENING EVERY DAY. 17:03:15 SIGN UP FOR THE FDA FOOD ALERTS ON YOUR BLACKBERRY. 17:03:20 YOU'RE BE AGHAST. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 17:03:26 DOES ANYONE WANT TIME IN THE AMEND. 17:03:33 M MENT. 17:03:34 GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA GETS TEN MINUTES. 17:03:35 THANK Y, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT, I THINK, IS -- 17:03:42 BASICAL DEALS WITH THE CORE AND FUNDAMENTALS AND BASICS OF EACH 17:03:45 OF US, AND THAT'S THE NECESSITY OF EATING AND OUR FOOD SUPPLY. 17:03:48 I CAN TELL YOU AS A FARMER FROM NORTHEAST INDIAN 17:03:52 A FOURTH GENERATIONAMILY FARM THAT FOOD IS OBVIOUSLY VERY NEAR 17:03:56 AND DEAR TO MY HEART. AND BEING ELECTED TO CONGRESS 17:04:01 LAST NOVEMBER AND BEING HERE FOR THE VOTE ON THE FOOD SAFETY ACT, 17:04:07 IT WAS ONE THAT I WAS VERY INTRIGUED BY. 17:04:11 AS I WATCHED THE PROCESS, I WAS QUITE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE AFTER 17:04:17 WATCHING AND HEARING THE DEBATES OVER YEARS OF WASHINGTON TO 17:04:21 CONTINUE TO GROW AND SIZE THE SCOPE OF THE GOVERNMENT, THIS 17:04:26 BILL DOES EXACTLY THAT. THIS BILL GROWS GOVERNMENT. 17:04:33 THIS BILL IS SPENDING DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE. 17:04:37 THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY LAST YEAR DID NOT FUND THIS BILL. 17:04:41 IT WOULD SPEND $1.4 BILLION, WHICH WOULD BE DIRECTLY ADDED TO 17:04:47 OUR NATIONAL DEBT. THE BILL IS PROPOSING TO HIRE 17:04:53 ALMOST 17,800 EMPLOYEES, WHICH WOULD BE DOING MORE REGULATION 17:04:58 AND REGULATORY SERVICES ENFORCEMENT INSPECTIONS ACROSS 17:05:07 THE COUNTRY. THIS BILL WOULD LEVY FEES ON 17:05:10 FACILITIES AND EXPORTERS, CONSUMERS WOULD BE THE ONES 17:05:13 ENDING UP PAYING FOR THESE FEES BECAUSE OF HIGHER FOOD COSTS. 17:05:17 I CAN TELL YOU AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH TIGHT BUDGETS 17:05:22 AS FAMILIES AND THE FAMILY FARMER ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, THIS 17:05:26 IS NOT WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW. ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 17:05:30 SAFETY OF OUR FOOD? ABSOLUTELY. 17:05:33 WE ARE ALL MORE EDUCATED TODAY THAN WE HAVE BEEN, WHETHER ITS 17:05:37 THROUGH OR FARM BUREAU AGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH OUR 17:05:40 SCHOOLS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH EXTENSION SERVICES, EACH OF US 17:05:44 ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR OD AND ABOUT THE 17:05:47 SAFETY OF OUR CITIZEN -- THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY. 17:05:51 THE UNITED STATES IS AWAY AHEAD OF THE REST OF THE 17:05:57 WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD PRODUCTION BUT THE SAFETY OF OUR 17:06:00 FOOD. AS I MENTIONED AS A FARMER I AM 17:06:03 VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRODUCTS THAT WE GROW, THE 17:06:08 PRODUCTS THAT WE PRODUCE. I CAN REMEMBER AS A YOUNG CHILD 17:06:13 WHEN MY MOM WOULD TAKE US DOWN TO THE LOCAL FARMERS MARKET TO 17:06:19 PICK OUT WHETHER IT WAS WATERMELON OR TOMATOES OR 17:06:23 CUCUMBERS, GREEN BEANS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH I'M SURE 17:06:26 PROBABLY MOST OF US ON THIS COMMITTEE HAVE HAD THAT 17:06:29 EXPERIENCE, AND IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE. 17:06:31 I KNOW THAT WE TRUST THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO 17:06:34 GROW THE PRODUCTS AND THE PRODUCE THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO 17:06:37 SELL TO US. WE DO LIVE IN A DIFFERENT DAY 17:06:40 AND A DIFFERENT AGE WHERE AMERICA IS NOW FEEDING NOT ONLY 17:06:47 OURSELVES BUT GREATER PARTS OF THE WORLD. 17:06:55 AND WE HAVE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO NOT ONLY FEED 17:06:59 AMERICANS BUT TO FEED AND EXPORT FOOD AROUND THE REST OF THE 17:07:04 WORLD. LET ME GIVE I A QUICK STATISTIC. 17:07:07 IN 1940 A FARMER WAS FEEDING 19 PEOPLE. 17:07:10 TODAY ONE FARMER FEEDS 155 PEOPLE. 17:07:17 THESE ARE FAMILY FARMS. THESE ARE NOT THE BIG CORPORATE 17:07:20 FARMS THAT MANY PEOPLE LIKE TO DESCRIBE. 17:07:24 98% OF FARM OPERATIONS TODAY ARE FAMILY FARMING OPERATIONS. 17:07:28 THAT MEANS ONLY 2% OF THESE FARMING OPERATIONS ARE 17:07:30 NON-FAMILY CORPORATIONS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE EPA STANDARDS 17:07:36 AND THE AMOUNT OF REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALREADY 17:07:38 ON THE BOOKS, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND 17 SECONDS OF REGULATIONS 17:07:43 RANGING FROM BOTTLED DRINKING WATER STANDARDS TO UNSAFE FOOD 17:07:49 ADDITIVES TO MARGARINE REGULATIONS. 17:07:53 I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE REALISTIC IN WHAT WE'RE 17:07:57 EXPECTING FROM NOT ONLY OUR SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS THE 17:08:02 COUNTRY AND OUR FARMFARMERS, BEE THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE THE COST 17:08:07 OF FOOD UP AT A TIME WHERE EVERY FAMILY IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT 17:08:11 HOW TO DO MORE WITH LESS. OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING 17:08:15 TO ADD ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS UPON NOT ONLY OUR FOOD SUPPLY 17:08:21 CHAIN BUT UPON THE FAMILIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND WHAT 17:08:24 THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IN THE COST OF FOOD. 17:08:27 LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ON WHAT THIS BILL IS 17:08:33 GOING TO DO AND WHY I BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT BE FUNDING THE HR 17:08:38 2751. REGISTRATION OF FOOD FACILITIES. 17:08:41 WE JUST GOT DONE REPEALING THE 1099 REQUIREMENT THAT ALL OF US 17:08:48 AGREED UPON THAT WAS DETRIMENTAL TO SMALL BUSINESSES AND WE 17:08:53 RECEIVED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN BOTH OF HOUSE AND SENATE IN 17:08:56 REPEALING THE 1099 LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE 17:09:02 MORE PAPERWORK FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. 17:09:05 WELL, THIS IS A PAPERWORK NIGHTMARE. 17:09:09 FACICILITY REGISTRATION AND WOU REQUIRE TO SUSPEND AND REINSTATE 17:09:20 R REGISTRATIONS. 17:09:22 THIS IS GIVING MASSIVE POWER TO OUR FEDERAL AGENCY AND THE 17:09:25 HAZARD PREVENTION PLANS. IT REQUIRES THE OWNER, OPERATOR 17:09:29 OR AGENT IN CHARGE OF A FACILITY TO DEVELOP A WRITTEN HAZARD 17:09:33 PREVENTION PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ALL 17:09:36 ENTAILS BUT I CAN IMAGINE OUT OF WASHINGTON WHAT IT WILL RESULT 17:09:38 IN. THAT'S GOING TO BE A MASSIVE 17:09:40 PILE OF PAPERWORK FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, FAMILY FARMS, THOSE 17:09:46 WHO ARE PROCESSING FOOD AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR NOT ONLY OUR 17:09:51 ENJOYMENT BUT FOR THE VERY NEED FOR US TO EAT. 17:09:57 THIS SECTION ALSO -- I'M SORRY. THE BILL ALSO IS VERY GENEROUS 17:10:02 IN ITS LANGUAGE AND WHERE THE MONEY IS TO BE AND FUNDING FOR 17:10:10 FOOD SAFETY FOR 2011 THROUGH 2014 FOR ACTIVITIES OF FDA 17:10:14 CENTERS FOR FOOD SAFETY AND APPLIED NUTRITION AND CENTER FOR 17:10:21 VETERINARY MEDICINE AND AGENCIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR SUCH SUMS AS 17:10:27 MAY BE NECESSARY. WE'RE GIVING POWER AGAIN TO 17:10:31 UNELECTED BUREAUCRACIES AND UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS NOT 17:10:34 RESPONSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE BACK HOME WHO ARE ELECTED US. 17:10:38 MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE 17:10:42 DEFEATED IN THAT WE ALREADY CAN WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT WE 17:10:47 CURRENTLY HAVE. I WANT TO -- THE GENTLELADY 17:10:58 MENTIONED SOME OF THE RECALLS. WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR 17:11:00 PHILOSOPHY FROM A REACTIVE SYSTEM TO A PREVENTATIVE-BASED 17:11:07 SYSTEM. GOVERNMENT CANNOT PREVENT EVERY 17:11:09 ACCIDENT FROM HAPPENING, LIKE IT DID WHEN THE FDA MISTAKENLY 17:11:14 POINTED AT THE TOMATOES FOR 13 DIFFERENT ILLNESSES IN 2008. 17:11:18 IT WASN'T TOMATOES. IT WAS THE TAINTED JALAPENOS. 17:11:22 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE -- WE'RE GOING TO HURT INDUSTRIES BY 17:11:26 SAYING, WE WANT TO PREVENT OUTBREAKS OF CERTAIN FOOD 17:11:30 AILMENTS AND ILLNESSES, BUT WE CANNOT STOP EVERY INSTANCE. 17:11:34 WE CAN LEARN FROM THEM, AND I CAN TELL YOU AS A PRODUCER I 17:11:38 DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE -- I DON'T WANT TO BE PRODUCING FOOD THAT'S 17:11:41 GOING TO GENERTE ANY ILLNESS OR BE A HINDRANCE TO THE SAFETY OF 17:11:48 IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I FIND IT ACTUALLY INSULTING 17:11:51 THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE TO REACH 17:11:53 DOWN INTO OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE OUR FOOD SUPPLY -- WHERE THE 17:11:58 SALT OF THE EARTH PEOPLE ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY, WORKING 17:12:01 THE SOIL IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOOD FOR 17:12:05 THE MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE NOT ONLY HERE BUT AROUND THE WORLD. 17:12:10 SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK THIS AMENDMENT BE 17:12:14 DEFEATED. CAN YOU YIELD FOR A ANYONE 17:12:18 KNIT OTTO MATE TOES? ON THE TOMATOES? 17:12:23 I HAVE A COUPLE POINTS I WANT TO MAKE, AND THEN I'LL FINISH UP. 17:12:27 SOME OF THE BILL'S MAIN CRITICS HAVE BEEN ORGANIC FOOD OUTFITS, 17:12:31 WHICH I BELIEVE IS A -- THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR IN THIS 17:12:35 TOWN FOR ORGANIC FOODS. ONE LSD MY FAMILY FARM HAS BEEN 17:12:40 ACTUALLY BEEN PRODUCING OVER THE YEARS. 17:12:43 THIS IS GOING TO GAIN NEW POWERS OVER THE 2.2 MILLION FARMS AND 17:12:48 28,000 FOOD PRODUCERS IN AMERICA. 17:12:51 SO AS WE CAN SEE, AT A TIME WHEN NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE FISCAL 17:12:55 PROBLEMS HERE IN WASHINGTON, WE NOW WANT TO GENERATE MORE 17:13:00 REGULATION AND MORE CONTROL FROM WASHINGTON OVER THE FOLKS THAT 17:13:05 PROVIDE THE DAILY NEEDS FOR US IN THE FOOD SUPPLY. 17:13:10 MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK. THE GENTLELADY FROM MINNESOTA 17:13:15 HAS A MINUTE TO CLOSE. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR 17:13:19 THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I THINK YOU POINTED OUT A COUPLE 17:13:21 OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE AGREEMENT ON. 17:13:23 ONE IS WE HAVE TO HAVE AVAILABLE ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO 17:13:28 TRACK DOWN FOOD-BORNE ILLNESSES. THE INCIDENT WITH THE TOMATOES 17:13:33 WHERE THEY FOUND OUT IT WAS THE JALAPENO PEPPERS WAS DISCOVERED 17:13:37 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF FUNDING 17:13:40 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT KEEPING THAT PROGRAM MOVING 17:13:44 FORWARD SO THAT CONSUMERS ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES FOUND 17:13:49 OUT. HERE'S WHAT -- JUST A COUPLE OF 17:13:52 FACTS HERE IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT OVERREGULATION. 17:13:55 WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS ABOUT 17:13:59 INSPECTION. THIS IS FROM A CRS OFFICIAL. 17:14:04 FDA OFFICIALS RANGE TO EVERY TEN YEARS ON AVERAGE, THOUGH THE 17:14:08 AGENCY CLAIMS TO VISIT 6,000 SO-CALLED HIGH RISK FACILITIES 17:14:12 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THIS IS FROM THE INSPECTOR 17:14:13 GENERAL. TIME EXPIRED. 17:14:18 WE DON'T DO THE INSPECTIONS. ALL TIME IS EXPIRED. 17:14:21 QUESTION IS ON AGREEING TO THE AMENDMENT BY THE GENTLELADY 17:14:26 FROM MINNESOTA. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE 17:14:29 NOS HAVE IT IT. RECORD OF VOTE IS REQUESTED. 17:14:32 THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. MR. GARRETT. 17:14:39 MR. SIMPSON. MR. SIMPSON, NO. 17:14:42 MR. CAMPBELL. MR. CALVERT. 17:14:50 MR. CALVERT, NO. MR. AIKEN. 17:14:54 MR. AIKEN, NO. MR. KOHL. 17:14:59 MR. KOHL, NO. MR. PRICE. 17:15:05 MR. PRICE, NO. MR. McCLINTOCK. 17:15:10 MR. McCLINTOCK, NO. MR. CHAFITZ, NO. 17:15:19 MR. STUTSMAN, NO. MR. LANGFORD, NO. 17:15:25 MISS BLACK. MISS BLACK, NO. 17:15:29 MR. RIBL. MR. RIBLE, NO. 17:15:33 MR. FLORES. MR. FLORES, NO. 17:15:39 MR. MULL VEINY. MR. MULVANEY, NO. 17:15:51 MR. YOUNG, NO. MR. AMASH, NO. 17:15:56 MR. OKITA, NO. MR. GINTA, NO. 17:16:04 MR. WOODALL, NO. MR. GARRETT. 17:16:11 MR. GARRETT, NO. MR. CAMPBELL. 17:16:14 MR. CAMPBELL, NO. MR. VAN HOLLAND. 17:16:24 MISS SCHWARTZ. MISS SCHWARTZ, AYE. 17:16:28 MISS CAPTOR. MISS CAPTOR, AYE. 17:16:33 MR. DOGGET, AYE. MR. BLOOMHAUR. 17:16:44 MISS McCALLUM. MISS McCALLUM, AYE. 17:16:48 MR. YARMOUTH. MR. YARMOUTH, AYE. 17:16:53 MR. PASCREL. MR. PASCREL, AYE. 17:16:58 MR. HONDA. MR. HONDA, AYE. 17:17:04 MR. RYAN. MR. RYAN, AYE. 17:17:08 MISS WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. MISS WASSERMAN SCHULTZ AYE. 17:17:15 MISS MOORE. MISS MOORE, AYE. 17:17:19 MISS CASTER. MISS CASTER, AYE. 17:17:22 MR. SCHULER. MR. SCHULER, NO. 17:17:28 MR. TONKO, AYE. MISS BASS. 17:17:36 MISS BASS, AYE. MR. HULESCAMP, NO. 17:17:51 CHAIRMAN RYAN. NO. 17:17:53 CHAIRMAN RYAN, NO. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO 17:17:55 WISHES TO VOTE OR CHANGE THEIR VOTE? 17:17:57 IF NOT, THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE VOTE. 17:17:59 MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THAT VOTE THE AYES ARE 13, THE NOS ARE 23. 17:18:08 THERE BEING 15 AYES AND 23 NOS THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED 17:18:13 TO. 13 AYES. 17:18:14 13. EXCUSE ME. 17:18:16 DID I SAY THAT? I WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT 17:18:18 THERE. 13 AYES AND 23 NOS AND THE 17:18:21 AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO THE LAST 17:18:24 TIER 1 AMENDMENT, AND I THINKABLE IT'S MR. PASCRELS. 17:18:31 ARE YOU COUNTING FROM NEW JERSEY? 17:18:33 NO, I'M FROM WISCONSIN. CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMEND: 17:18:37 AMENDMENT DESIGNATED AS NUMBER 10 OFFERED BY 17:18:42 MR. PASCREL. STOP CUTS TO POLICE AND 17:18:46 FIREFIGHTERS. GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY HAS 17:18:48 TEN MINUTES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M TALKING 17:18:51 ABOUT OUTLAYS FOR POLICE, WHICH IS IN FUNCTION 750. 17:18:56 THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE. AND THEN THE OUTLAYS ARE 17:19:02 FIREFIGHTERS, WHICH ARE IN FUNCTION 450 OF THE COMMUNITY 17:19:05 AND REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 17:19:11 THIS AMENDMENT INCREASES BUDGET AUTHORITY AND OUTLAYS TO ENSURE 17:19:18 PROGRAMS CRITICAL TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE AND FIRE GRANTS 17:19:21 RECEIVE ADEQUATE FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR 2012. 17:19:26 AS YOU REMEMBER JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHEN WE DEALT WITH HR 17:19:30 1, AMENDMENTS WERE PUT ON THE FLOOR. 17:19:32 THE MONEY WAS RESTORED TO THE COPS PROGRAM, AND THE MONEY WAS 17:19:37 RESTORED TO THE FIRE PROGRAMS. WHETHER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 17:19:40 THE FIRE GRANTS THEMSELVES OR WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 17:19:44 SAFER ACT, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, YOUR DISTRICT HAS -- I CAN 17:19:48 TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOUR DISTRICT HAS RECEIVED SINCE 2001 17:19:55 WHEN THESE WENT INTO EFFECT. THE COPS LEGISLATION WENT INTO 17:19:59 EFFECT, OF COURSE, DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. 17:20:03 WHICH WILL THESE -- WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN PRESERVING THESE FUNDS 17:20:08 ON THE STREETS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT SMALL 17:20:11 TOWNS AND LARGE TOWNS, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF POLICE, 17:20:17 THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FIREFIGHTERS TO KEEP OUR 17:20:20 COMMUNITIES SAFE. YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN 17:20:23 YOUR LOCAL BUDGETS AND IN YOUR STATE BUDGETS. 17:20:26 IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 CONTINUING RESOLUTION, WE 17:20:30 RESTORED THE MONEY FOR THE 2011 BUDGET. 17:20:34 THE EFFECT OF THIS CUT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEVASTATING TO OUR 17:20:37 LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS. AS A FORMER MAYOR, I'VE ALWAYS 17:20:41 BELIEVED THAT OUR NATION'S FIRST RESPONDERS CONSTITUTE BOTH OUR 17:20:46 FIRST AND LAST LINE OF DEFENSE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HERE AT 17:20:51 HOME. THEY ARE THE FIRST ONES TO SHOW 17:20:54 AND BE ON HAND GOD FORBID A DEVASTATING THING HAPPENS IN ANY 17:20:59 OF OUR COMMUNITIES. OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS 17:21:03 DEPEND ON THESE GRANTS. THEY ARE NECESSARY. 17:21:06 THESE ARE COMPETITIVE. THAT'S WHY THEY WORK. 17:21:08 THEY'VE BEEN CALLED THE MOST SUCCESSFUL DEPARTMENT GRANTS IN 17:21:11 THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY GO DIRECTLY TO THE LOCAL 17:21:16 COMMUNITY SO NO STATES CAN SKIM OFF THE TOP. 17:21:20 THAT'S WHY THEY ARE THE BEST. THAT'S WHY YOU TAKE PICTURES BH 17:21:24 THOSE CHECKS COME INTO YOUR LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND YOUR 17:21:27 POLICE DEPARTMENTS. OF COURSE, SOME HAVE TAKEN THOSE 17:21:30 PICTURES EVEN THOUGH THEY VOTED NO AGAINST THOSE PROGRAMS. 17:21:34 SO DURING DEBATE ON HR 1 WE HAD A VERY ILLUMINATING DEBATE WITH 17:21:40 OVERWHELMING SUPPORT. MY FRIENDS, BY OVERWHELMING 17:21:42 SUPPORT. BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. 17:21:44 PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT A DEMOCRATIC ISSUE OR REPUBLICAN 17:21:48 ISSUE. WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. 17:21:51 THIS IS OUR FIRST RESPONSIBILITY. 17:21:53 THESE AMENDMENTS PASSED WITH LARGE MAJORITIES. 17:21:57 I BELIEVE WE HAVE A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT ON THE IMPORTANCE OF 17:22:00 THESE PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 17:22:04 REAL HOMELAND SECURITY STARTS ON OUR STREETS AND OUR PUBLIC 17:22:07 SAFETY PROFESSIONALS ARE OUR FIRST AND LAST LINES OF DEFENSE. 17:22:11 SO I URGE A YES ON THE AMENDMENT. 17:22:14 PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AND I YIELD TO MISS SCHWARTZ OF 17:22:18 PENNSYLVANIA. WELL, I THINK HIM FOR HIS 17:22:24 ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF FIRE COMPANIES AND FIREFIGHTERS, 17:22:27 POLICE OFFICERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND COPS AND POLICE 17:22:30 OFFICERS AS WELL. SO I KNOW HE'S BEEN HONORED ON 17:22:34 NUMEROUS OCCASIONS TO DO THAT, AND HE'S SPOKEN UP. 17:22:38 AS MR. PASCRAL POINTED OUT WHEN HE OFFERED A SIMILAR AMENDMENT 17:22:43 ON THE FLOOR, IT DID PASS. I HOPE THERE CONTINUES TO BE 17:22:48 BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC SAFETY 17:22:55 INITIATIVE. I KNOW IT HELPS ENABLE THE 17:22:58 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA TO PUT SOME COPS 17:23:01 ON THE STREET, POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET, COMMUNITY 17:23:04 OFFICERS WHO KNOW THE DISTRICT AND HELP REDUCE THE RATE OF 17:23:08 CRIME AND OF COURSE TACKLE SOME OF THE WORST CRIMES THAT CAN 17:23:11 EXIST ANYWHERE. I'VE BEEN -- I DON'T KNOW IF 17:23:14 OTHERS OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO UNFORTUNATELY POLICE FUNERALS. 17:23:18 UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THEM. 17:23:19 I WENT TO FOUR DIFFERENT POLICE FUNERALS IN ONE YEAR. 17:23:24 THAT WAS PRETTY TOUGH. THAT'S WHAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS 17:23:26 ARE UP AGAINST. THEY'RE OUTGUNNED, AND HAVING 17:23:28 THE RESOURCES, THE EQUIPMENT, AND THE NUMBERS OF OFFICERS ON 17:23:32 THE STREET IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU 17:23:37 TALK ABOUT DRUG TRAFFICKING. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WE 17:23:41 KNOW OF GREAT CONCERN. FOR FIREFIGHTERS. 17:23:45 IN MY SUBURBAN DISTRICT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE FIRE COMPANIES 17:23:48 USE SOME OF THESE FIRE GRANTS WHEN THEY'VE GOTTEN THEM TO HELP 17:23:51 MAKE SURE THEY WORK WITH EACH OTHER FOR TRAINING AND 17:23:54 EQUIPMENT, SHARING EQUIPMENT AND BEING ABLE TO SHARE TRAINING IN 17:23:58 MY SUBURBAN PART OF MY DISTRICT. THIS HAS HELPED TO MAKE SURE 17:24:01 THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES SOMETIMES FAR TOO EXPENSIVE FOR 17:24:06 ANY ONE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY TO DO ON THEIR OWN, BEING ABLE 17:24:09 TO GET SOME FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FROM TIME TO TIME FOR THEM TO BE 17:24:13 SMARTER AND MORE EFFICIENT AND PROVIDE THE KIND OF SAFETY IN 17:24:15 OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US RELEASE 17:24:19 ON. WE CAN'T MANY OF US IMAGINE WHAT 17:24:24 HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S A FIRE IN OUR COMMUNITIES OR HOMES OR, IN 17:24:27 FACT, SOME KIND OF POLICE ACTION NEEDED. 17:24:30 WE RELY ON OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. 17:24:35 I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. WESHLD PROTECT THESE GRANTS AND 17:24:39 UNDERSTAND THIS IS A CHOICE BETWEEN THE TAX CUTS FOR THE 17:24:42 WEALTHIEST AMERICANS AND SOME OF OUR SPECIAL INTEREST TAX 17:24:47 DEDUCTIONS. INSTEAD WE OUGHT TO BE MAKING 17:24:50 SURE THAT WE PROTECT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS AT HOME WITH THESE 17:24:54 GRANTS. THAW VERY MUCH, AND I YIELD 17:24:57 BACK. MR. XHARM, I YIELD ONE MINUTE 17:25:00 FOR THE GENTLELADY FROM OHIO. MISS CAPTOR. 17:25:03 I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS EXCELLENT AMENDMENT. 17:25:06 THE LAST PLACE WE SHOULD SHORT CHANGE OUR COMMUNITIES IS OUR 17:25:11 FIRST RESPONDS. CERTAINLY OUR POLICE AND FIRE, 17:25:13 AND I SUSPECT YOUR AMENDMENT IN MEMORY OF OFFICER ANDREW DUNN 17:25:18 FROM THE CITY OF SANDUSKY, OHIO FOR THE FUNERAL I ATTENDED ONE 17:25:24 WEEK AGO. I HAVE ATTENDED MANY FUNERALS IN 17:25:27 MY LIFE. THE GRIEF IN THAT COMMUNITY OVER 17:25:29 THE LOSS OF LIFE OF THIS YOUNG OFFICER WHO WAS OUT AT 3:00 A.M. 17:25:33 IN THE MORNING ALONE AND FOLLOWED ALL THE RULES SHOT 17:25:36 MULTIPLE TIMES LEAVING HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO CHILDREN WHO WILL 17:25:39 NEVER KNOW THEIR FATHER. NO COMMUNITY IN AMERICA SHOULD 17:25:42 HAVE OFFICERS GOING OUT ALONE LIKE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 17:25:46 NIGHT. OUR COMMUNITIES IN PLACES THAT 17:25:48 HAVE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT ARE SHORT CHANGED OF FUNDS, AND I JUST -- 17:25:54 I ACTUALLY SAT WITH THE WIDOWS AND WITH THE WIVES OF OFFICERS 17:26:00 IN THAT DEPARTMENT, AND THE GRIEF WAS SO HEAVY THERE ISN'T A 17:26:05 PERSON THAT ATTENDED THAT WON'T REMEMBER THAT FOR THE REST OF 17:26:08 THEIR LIVES. IN MEMORY OF OFFICER ANDREW DUNN 17:26:12 I FULLY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. 17:26:18 LET ME SAY THIS IN CONCLUSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I 17:26:21 MAY. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 17:26:22 WE CAN ALL AGREE ON. WHEN WE PASSED THE FIRE 17:26:28 LEGISLATION IN 2000, YOU COULD FIT US ALL IN THE PHONE BOOTH, 17:26:33 THOSE THAT HAD THEIR NAME. IT WAS BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION 17:26:35 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. I'VE INSISTED UPON THAT. 17:26:38 WE'VE DONE WHAT WE HAD TO DO. I THINK WE WILL DO IT AGAIN. 17:26:41 I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL. THE COPS PROGRAM HAS BROUGHT 17:26:47 DIVIDENDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY TO OUR COMMUNITIES. 17:26:51 IT'S ALREADY TO PAT THESE GUYS AND GALS ON THE BACK, BUT THEY 17:26:54 NEED OUR SUPPORT OUT IN THE FIELD AND OUT IN THE STREETS NOW 17:26:58 MORE THAN EVER. THE CITY I COME FROM, PATTERSON, 17:27:01 NEW JERSEY, JUST LAYING OFF 100 POLICE OFFICERS. 17:27:04 WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST CITY IN NEW JERSEY. 17:27:07 I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO WITHSTAND THAT. 17:27:10 IN THE TOWNS TARND US, LAYING OFF LESS BUT STILL REDUCING THE 17:27:15 PUBLIC SAFETY FORCE. I AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT, 17:27:20 M MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THIS AMENDMENT. 17:27:23 I THINK IF MAKES SENSE AND I YIELD BACK. 17:27:24 THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. 17:27:26 I WISH TO CLAIM THAT TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN. 17:27:32 YIELD TEN MINUTES TO MR. GUNTA. 17:27:35 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I EXPRESSED MY APPRECIATION FOR 17:27:39 NOT JUST THIS AMENDMENT BUT WHAT YOU DID ON HR 1. 17:27:43 I CERTAINLY VOTED FOR THAT AMENDMENT AND I THANK YOU FOR 17:27:45 YOUR KIND NOTE IN RESPONSE. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOW ON A NEW DAY 17:27:51 SDPSHGS WE ARE FACED WITH THE CONTEXT OF A $1.6 TRILLION 17:27:56 DEFICIT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. I, TOO, SERVED AS A MAYOR OF THE 17:28:02 GREAT CITY OF MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THE LAST FOUR 17:28:05 YEARS BEFORE COMING HERE, AND I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AND 17:28:08 CHALLENGES THAT YOU DID WHEN YOU SERVED AS MAYOR. 17:28:11 SO I CERTAINLY WALKED IN THOSE SAME FOOTSTEPS. 17:28:14 NO DECISION IS EVER EASY FOR AN EXECUTIVE, PARTICULARLY AT THE 17:28:18 LOCAL LEVEL, BUT WE MAKE THEM AND WE MOVE GUARD IN THE BEST 17:28:22 FASHION THAT WE KNOW HOW. I WAS PROUD TO CUT TAXES IN MY 17:28:27 CITY, BUT ALSO PRIORITIZE LIKE WE HAVE TO DO HERE TODAY. 17:28:30 ICHS ABLE TO INCREASE FUNDING TO POLICE AND FIRE, BUT CUT TAXES 17:28:34 AND PROTECT PROPERTY TAXPAYERS. WHEN WE STARTED THIS HEARING 17:28:38 THIS MORNING, IF YOU CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WE'VE 17:28:42 ACCUMULATED TO NOW, IT'S ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS. 17:28:45 IT'S IN THAT CONTEXT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER EVERY 17:28:51 FUNDING RECOMMENDATION IN THIS BUDGET. 17:28:53 WHEN I LOOKED AT FUNCTION 450 AND FUNCTION 750, I NOTICED A 17:29:01 COUPLE INTERESTING THINGS. THIS DOESN'T DEMEAN THE NEED 17:29:06 ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR FEDERAL SUPPORT IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT IN 17:29:10 FUNCTION 750 WE'RE INCREASING FROM 2000 TO 201 87.5%. 17:29:22 THOSE ARE DOLLARS THAT ARE WORTH VALUE TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE 17:29:25 COUNTRY, BUT IN FUNCTION 450 THE SAME THING. 17:29:28 WE HAD AN INCREASE OF 125% FROM 2000 TO 120, 10.6 BILLION, THE 17:29:35 23.8 BILLION. THIS HAS GOTTEN US INTO THE 17:29:39 CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE OF OUR $1.6 TRILLION DEFICIT. 17:29:44 THE FURTHER CONCERN I HAVE WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT THE 17:29:49 MEMBER AND I WILL DISAGREE BUT THIS RAISES TAXES TO PAY FOR IT, 17:29:54 A FURTHER BURDEN FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. 17:29:58 I WAS HAPPY IT TO SUPPORT IN THE FISCAL YEAR '11 CR ADDITIONAL 17:30:04 DOLLARS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC WITH EVERYBODY IN 17:30:06 AMERICA SXLET THEM KNOW WEEM BE FIRM BUT FAIR AND SET 17:30:12 APPROPRIATE CAPS HERE IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND WE'RE GOING 17:30:14 TO ASK THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE TO DO ITS WORK AND 17:30:17 KEEP IN MIND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING 17:30:20 ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I WILL CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE 17:30:56 MEMBER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FAIR AND FIRM. 17:30:59 WE TRY TO GET THIS DEBT AND DEFICIT ON A BETTER TRAJECTORY, 17:31:04 SOMETHING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN C 17:31:10 CLEARLY. I'D LIKE TO YIELD FOR THE TIME 17:31:12 THAT HE REQUIRES. SURE. 17:31:15 WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD FOR JUST 30 SECONDS? 17:31:17 I WILL AFTER I GO TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, 17:31:20 MR. MULVANEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 17:31:28 I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO HOW ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS WORK. 17:31:32 I'M SURE EVERYONE AROUND HERE IS FAMILIAR WITH THEM, BUT I THINK 17:31:34 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROGRAM THAT 17:31:38 THE -- THE COPS PROGRAM WORKS AND THE RISKS IT RUNS. 17:31:42 I'VE HEARD THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE PROGRAM, AND THEN I'VE HEARD 17:31:44 THAT MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES INCLUDING MINE ARE FACING WITH 17:31:46 LAYING OFF PEOPLE. THERE'S PROGRAMS SET UP FOR BY 17:31:56 SHERIFFS FOR THE SET LENGTH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS AT 17:32:05 ANOTHER TIME, BUT IT'S A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 17:32:10 THERE'S LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS HOOKED ON HAVING THOSE PEOPLE 17:32:12 THERE, AND WHEN THE GRANT MONEY RUNS OUT, THEY'RE FACED WITH THE 17:32:19 DEVIL'S BARGAIN. DO YOU RAISE LOCAL TAXES OR FIRE 17:32:23 THE PEOPLE? IN MANY COMMUNITIES WE DON'T 17:32:27 HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE TAXES CHLS HE SAID ONE COMMUNITY IS 17:32:30 LAYING OFF 100 PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE TAX BASE 17:32:33 NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL. 17:32:34 THIS IS AN ADDICTION. THIS IS A VERY SMALL EXAMPLE OF 17:32:37 WHAT WE FACE AS A NATION. WE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ARE 17:32:41 NOT ONLY HOOKED ON SPENDING, BUT WE'RE GETTING OUR LOCALITIES 17:32:44 HOOKED ON THE SPENDING AS WELL. HERE, TAKE THE MONEY FOR TWO OR 17:32:47 THREE YEARS. TAKE IT. 17:32:49 IT'S FREE. YOU KNOW YOU NEED IT. 17:32:51 GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS MONEY AND HIRE PEOPLE. 17:32:53 AND THEN TWO OR THREE YEARS LATER THEY TURN AROUND AND ARE 17:32:56 FACED WITH THAT CHOICE. DO WE HAVE TO LAY OFF LAW 17:33:01 ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE OR RAISE TAXES? 17:33:03 THAT'S A BARGAIN WE SHOULDN'T MAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 17:33:06 THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I VOTED AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR 17:33:09 AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST 17:33:11 THIS TODAY. WE NEED TO BREAK THE ADDICTION 17:33:13 OF SPENDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BUT THE ADDICTION WE'RE ENABLING 17:33:19 AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS. YILD TWO MINUTES TO THE 17:33:23 GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. McCLINTON. 17:33:26 I WAS WONDERING WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE DOCTRINE THAT 17:33:29 PROGRAMS THAT EXCLUSIVELY BENEFIT A LOCAL COMMUNITY OUGHT 17:33:32 TO BE EXCLUSIVELY PAID FOR BY THAT LOCAL COMMUNITY? 17:33:38 LOCAL POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS OPERATE EXCLUSIVELY 17:33:42 IN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AND OUGHT TO BE FINANCED BY THE TAXPAYERS 17:33:45 IN THOSE JURISDICTIONS. WHENEVER WE TAKE TAXES FROM ONE 17:33:48 COMMUNITY TO PAY FOR LOCAL SERVICES IN ANOTHER, WE 17:33:52 LITERALLY END UP ROBBING ST. PETER 17:33:57 PETERSBURG TO PAY ST. PAUL. ONE COMMUNITY PAYS FOR ITS OWN 17:34:03 POLICE AND FIRE AND PLUNDERRING TO PAY FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY'S 17:34:08 PLIS AND FIRE AS WELL. WE ALL KNOW THAT ALL FUNDS ARE 17:34:12 FUNDABLE. A GRANT TO ONE COMMUNITY'S 17:34:14 POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS TAKEN FROM THE TAXPAYERS OF 17:34:17 ANOTHER COMMUNITY, DOESN'T EVEN NECESSARILY GO TO THAT LUCKY 17:34:21 COMMUNITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE GRANT MERELY HAS LOCAL FUNDS 17:34:26 THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE HAVE GONE TO THE LOCAL POLICE 17:34:28 DEPARTMENT BUT ARE FREE TO FUND LOWER PRIORITIES THAT HAVE 17:34:32 NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICE SERVICES. 17:34:34 I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE MINORITY PARTY HAS 17:34:37 ABANDONED THE PRINCIPLES OF FAIRNESS AND FEDERALISM UPON XH 17:34:41 OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED AND ENDED UP MISMANAGING BILLIONS OF 17:34:46 DOLLARS AS A RESULT. THANK YOU, YIELD ONE MINUTE 17:34:52 TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH. HIS PASSION IS REAL AND 17:34:56 SINCERE AND APPRECIATED AND CONTAGIOUS QUITE FRANKLY. 17:34:59 DIE APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE 17:35:03 XHARM SUPPORTS THE PRESIDENT'S LEVEL FOR HOMELAND SECURITY 17:35:06 ACTIVITIES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEREFORE, MEETING 17:35:08 THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE 17:35:12 TO FIREFIGHTER GRANTS. THE COLLEAGUE SHOULD RECOGNIZE 17:35:15 THAT THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED $302 MILLION FOR THE COPS 17:35:20 PROGRAM. PASSING THIS AMENDMENT WOULD 17:35:23 DOUBLE THE REQUEST. T 17:35:28 THE PASSING WOULD DOUBLE THE ADMINISTRATION'S REQUEST. 17:35:31 ALSO OF NOTE, BY 2015 THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BUDGET IS 17:35:35 PROJECTED TO REACH $30 BILLION, A NEARLY 50% GREATER THAN IT WAS 17:35:40 IN JUST 2005. THIS IS ONE OF THE SHARPEST 17:35:43 INCREASES WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 17:35:45 WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE DOLLARS. 17:35:47 AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S PASSION ON THIS 17:35:50 ISSUE. WE ALSO NEED TO BE REALISTIC 17:35:52 ABOUT THE COLORS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. 17:35:56 WE ALL SUPPORT FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS IN OUR 17:36:00 OWN COMMUNITY AND FIRST RESPONDERS. 17:36:01 THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB AND WE CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR 17:36:05 THEIR PASSION AND WHAT THEY DO. I YIELD BACK. 17:36:08 MR. GARRETT. I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN 17:36:11 FROM NEW JERSEY IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND GENTLEMAN 17:36:14 SAID BEFORE HE COULD GIVE US A LIST OF EVERY DISTRICT AS TO HOW 17:36:18 MUCH MONEY WE RECEIVED. I WONDER IF HE CAN GIVE US A 17:36:24 LIST OF HOW MANY MONEY OUR DISTRICTS HAVE SENT TO 17:36:29 WASHINGTON AND NOT GOTTEN BACK, THAT NEW JERSEY IS A DON OR 17:36:32 STATE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE 17:36:36 SUB SID DIESING EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE. 17:36:38 IF YOU LIKE GOING BACK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND SAYING THE 17:36:41 REASON THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE FIRE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED, THE 17:36:44 REASON THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE POLICE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED IS 17:36:47 BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED LEGISLATION THAT YOU WOULD SEND 17:36:49 THOSE DOLLARS TO OTHER STATES AS OPPOSED TO KEEPING THEM IN NEW 17:36:53 JERSEY AS MR. McCLINTON SAYS ON THE LOCAL LEVEL. 17:36:56 THOSE ARE THE FIGURES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 17:36:58 I YIELD BACK. 20 SECONDS. 17:37:02 THANK YOU FOR YIELDING BACK. IF WE DEPEND ON MR. McCLINTON 17:37:06 AND MR. GARRETT, DON'T TAKE IT IT PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN 17:37:09 FIGHTING TO GET MORE RETURNS IN NEW JERSEY. 17:37:12 WHEN A FOREST FIRE AND LASTS 30 OR 40 DAYS, I DON'T SIT HERE AND 17:37:16 SAY, THAT'S NOT MY STATE. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. 17:37:19 9/11 CHANGED THE WHOLE COMPOSURE OF WHAT WE DO, SIR. 17:37:24 THERE ARE NEEDS WITHIN FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND POLICE 17:37:27 DEPARTMENTS. YOU CAN SMILE ALL YOU WANT. 17:37:29 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL THINGS OF LIVES -- I STILL HAVE 17:37:34 THE FLOOR, MR. XHARM CHAIRMAN. RECLAIM MY TIME. 17:37:38 HE YIELDED IT TO ME. MR. PASCRELL, ORDER. 17:37:45 MR. GINTA CONTROLS THE TIME. CAN I FINISH MY STATEMENT? 17:37:51 NO. DO YOU WANT 30 SECONDS. 17:37:54 I WOULD LIKE TEN SECONDS TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE PASSION ON 17:37:57 THIS ISSUE. I BELIEVE THIS CONGRESS HAS AND 17:37:59 WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT POLICE AND FIRE. 17:38:01 WE ARE FOCUSING RIGHT ON REDUCING OUR DEBT AND DEFICIT 17:38:04 AND WE WILL DO THIS APPROPRIATELY AS OUTLINED IN 17:38:07 THIS BUDGET. I YIELD BACK. 17:38:09 THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. IF YOU WANT TO TEE OFF, YOU 17:38:11 HAVE A MINUTE TO DO IT NOW. OKAY. 17:38:13 IF YOU THINK, MR. CLARM, THAT IS JUST PASSION, YOU ARE SADLY 17:38:19 MISTAKEN. YOU'RE GOING TO BE -- 17:38:21 I JUST LIKE HAVING -- I'M FINISHING. 17:38:24 I HAVE ONE MINUTE YOU GAVE ME. YOU'RE DARN RIGHT I'M PASSIONATE 17:38:28 ABOUT IT, AND I'M SURE YOU ARE TOO. 17:38:30 BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS. THERE IS A CUT OF $4 BILLION 17:38:35 RIGHT HERE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF YOU 17:38:38 COME OUT WITH THE SAME MA LARKY WE DID AND HEARD TWO OR THREE 17:38:43 HOURS AGO, THAT THERE'S NO CUT HERE, THERE'S A CUT IN THE 17:38:46 BOTTOM NUMBER IN THESE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS AND I 17:38:49 LAID IT OUT IN THE VERY BEGINNING. 17:38:51 WHY IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH ENTERING THE CONSENSUS OF THIS 17:38:56 COMMITTEE TO DEMONSTRATE OUR SUPPORT FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS 17:38:59 AND FIREFIGHTERS? WE TAKE THE MONEY, MR. GARRETT 17:39:05 POINTED OUT, ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY NEW JERSEY SENDS. 17:39:08 HE WE DO THAT FOR A REASON. STATES HAVE NEEDS OTHER THAN THE 17:39:12 STATE OF NEW JERSEY. WE ARE A HIGH -- 17:39:15 THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. 17:39:17 YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS. THE QUESTION IS AGREEING TO 17:39:20 THE AMENDMENT BY NEW JERSEY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 17:39:23 AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. 17:39:26 IN THE OPINION OF CHAIR THE NOS HAVE IT. 17:39:28 THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLE. MR. GARRETT. 17:39:32 MR. GARRETT, NO. MR. SIMPSON. 17:39:35 MR. SIMPSON, NO. MR. CAMPBELL. 17:39:39 MR. CAMPBELL, NO. MR. CALVERT. 17:39:42 MR. CALVERT, NO. MR. AIKEN. 17:39:46 MR. AIKEN, NO. MR. KOHL. 17:39:50 MR. KOHL, NO. MR. PRICE. 17:39:54 MR. PRICE, NO. MR. McCLINTOCK. 17:40:00 MR. McCLINTON, NO. MR. CHAFITZ, NO. 17:40:07 MR. STUTSMAN. MR. STUTSMAN, NO. 17:40:11 MR. LANGEFORD, NO. MISS BLACK. 17:40:15 MISS BLACK, NO. MR. RIBLE. 17:40:19 MR. RIBLE, NO. MR. FLORES. 17:40:25 MR. FLORES, NO. MR. MULVANEY. 17:40:29 MR. MULVANEY, NO. MR. HULESCAMP, NO. 17:40:36 MR. YOUNG. MR. YOUNG, NO. 17:40:39 MR. AMASH. MR. AMASH, NO. 17:40:44 MR. OKITA, NO. MR. GINTA, MR. GINTA, NO. 17:40:52 MR. WOODALL. MR. WOODALL, NO. 17:40:57 MR. VAN HOLLAND. MR. VAN HOLLAND, AYE. 17:41:02 MISS SCHWARTZ. MISS SCHWARTZ, AYE. 17:41:07 MY CAPTOR. IN MEMORY OF OFFICER ANDY 17:41:11 DUNN FROM SANDUSKY, OHIO, YES. MISS CAPTOR, AYE. 17:41:17 MR. DOGGET, AYE. MR. BLOOMENHOWER, AYE. 17:41:26 McMcCALLUM, AYE. MR. YARMOUTH, AYE. 17:41:32 MR. PASSCRELL. VOTING FOR THE POLICE AND 17:41:39 FIREFIGHTERS OF THIS COUNTRY, YES. 17:41:41 MR. HONDA, AYE. MR. RYAN. 17:41:47 MISS WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, AYE. MISS MOORE. 17:41:55 MISS MOORE, AYE. MISS CASTER. 17:41:59 MISS CASTER, AYE. MR. SCHULER, AYE. 17:42:08 MR. TONKO, AYE. MISS BASS. 17:42:12 MISS BASS, AYE. CHAIRMAN RYAN. 17:42:16 CHAIRMAN RYAN, NO. IS THERE ANY MEMBER WHO 17:42:21 WISHES TO VOTE OR CHANGE THEIR VOTE? 17:42:25 MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THAT VOTE THE AYES ARE 15 AND THE NOS ARE 17:42:28 22. THERE BEING 15 AYES AND 22 17:42:33 NOS, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. 17:42:36 NOW WE MOVE TO TIER 2. I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO MISS 17:42:43 BASS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 17:42:46 CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. 17:42:48 AMENDMENT DESIGNATED AS NUMBER 12 OFFERED BY MISS BASS, 17:42:53 STOP HARMFUL CUTS TO VETERANS. THE GENTLELADY FROM 17:42:57 CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR SIX AND A HALF MINUTES. 17:43:00 THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. VETERANS FROM IRAQ AND 17:43:02 AFGHANISTAN WARS HAVE EXPERIENCED MORE DAYS IN COMBAT, 17:43:04 MORE TOURS OF DUTY, AND FORTUNATELY HAVE SURVIVED 17:43:08 PHYSICAL INJURIES NEVER IMAGINED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 17:43:12 UNFORTUNATELY, A SAD CONSEQUENCE HAVE BEEN VETERANS SUFFERING 17:43:15 FROM EXTREME ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL HARDSHIPS, AND IN FAR TOO MANY 17:43:19 CASES RESULTING IN HOMELESSNESS. MEMBERS, THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS 17:43:23 KEEP OUR PROMISE TO OUR VETERANS. 17:43:26 WHAT IS AT RIFB FOR FUNDING FOR NEW HUD VETERAN AFFAIRS 17:43:32 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SERVICES. THIS PROGRAM IS SPECIFICALLY 17:43:34 DESIGNED TO HELP HOMELESS VETERANS SECURE SAFE AND 17:43:38 PERMANENT HOUSING, SECURE COUNSELING AND HELP FINDING JOB 17:43:41 TRAINING AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THE VETERAN HOUSING PROGRAM HAS 17:43:46 PROVIDED HOMES TO 30,000 VETERANS SLEEPING ON THE 17:43:53 STREETS. THIS IS KEEP TO ENDS 17:43:55 HOMELESSNESS. CHAIRMAN RYAN'S MARK FOR 2012 17:43:57 CONTINUES THE ELIMINATION OF $75 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR HOUSING 17:44:02 AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR HOMELESS VETS. 17:44:07 THE CHAIR'S MARK FAILS TO PROVIDE THE PRESIDENTIAL REQUEST 17:44:11 LEVEL FOR FUNCTION 700 FOR 2013 AND 2021, THE OUT YEARS, 17:44:16 PROVIDING $18.8 BILLION LESS OVER THE PERIOD, EVEN AS THE 17:44:21 NUMBER OF VETERANS RETURNING FROM IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN IN 17:44:23 NEED OF HEALTH CARE GROWS. IT IS A DISGRACE THAT VETERANS 17:44:28 WHO HAVE HONORABLY SERVED TO DEFEND OUR FREEDOM ARE LIVING ON 17:44:32 THE STREETS. I 17:44:37 IF WE DON'T ADEQUATELY FUND HEALTH CARE FOR VETERANS. 17:44:40 FOR 5% OF THE COST FOR EXTENDING TAX CUTS FOR MILLIONAIRES WE 17:44:47 COULD RESTORE THE DUTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A STORY 17:44:50 WITH YOU. JOHN IS AN ARMY VETERAN FROM MY 17:44:53 DISTRICT. AFTER SERVING HIS COUNTRY 17:44:57 HONORABLY IN AFGHANISTAN JOHN RETURNED TO L.A. WITH SEVERE S 17:45:05 PTSD. HE SLIPPED INTO A SPIRAL OF 17:45:09 SELF-DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR AND HE SOUGHT HELP AT NEW DIRECTIONS, A 17:45:12 NONPROFIT THAT WORKS WITH VETERANS. 17:45:14 AFTER YEARS OF HARD WORK AND HELP FROM NEW DIRECTIONS, JOHN 17:45:18 NOW HAS STEADY EMPLOYMENT AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY MUSEUM OF 17:45:22 ART. HOWEVER, HE'S ONLY ABLE TO 17:45:23 AFFORD HIS STUDIO APARTMENT BECAUSE OF SUPPORT FROM THE 17:45:26 VETERANS HOUSING PROGRAM. LOS ANGELES IS HOME TO MORE 17:45:31 RETURNING VETS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NATION. 17:45:33 IN MY DISTRICT WE RECEIVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOHNS AND JANES 17:45:37 WHO COME HOME EVERY MONTH, AND THE VETERANS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM 17:45:41 ALLOWS VETERANS THE FREEDOM TO PUT THEIR LIVES TOGETHER AFTER 17:45:44 FACING THE HORRORS OF WAR. AFTER ALL WE ASK PEOPLE LIKE 17:45:48 JOHN TO SACRIFICE FOR US WHEN THEY GO OVERSEAS, WE CANNOT IN 17:45:55 GOOD CONSCIENCE TURN OUR BACKS THOEM WHEN THEY RETURN HOME. 17:45:59 VETERANS HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH THAT WE LIVE FREE AND MUST MAKE 17:46:03 GOOD ON THE PROMISE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEN THEY RETURN HOME. 17:46:05 THE CHART YOU SEE UP THERE LISTS AN EXAMPLE OF FOUR MEMBERS IN 17:46:09 THEIR DISTRICTS AND THE NUMBER OF RESOURCES THAT ARE OFFERED IN 17:46:15 THEIR DISTRICTS. I NOW YIELD ONE MINUTE AND A 17:46:17 HALF TO MY FRIEND AND CO-SPONSOR OF MY AMENDMENT, REPRESENTATIVE 17:46:22 BETTY McCULLOUGH FROM MINNESOTA. I DO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT TO 17:46:31 RESTORE FUNDING FOR HOMELESS VETERANS PROGRAMS. 17:46:34 IN FEBRUARY THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS AND THE 17:46:36 DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT RELEASED ITS FIRST 17:46:40 EVER JOINT REPORT ON THE HOMELESSNESS OF VETERANS. 17:46:45 AS CONGRESSWOMAN BASS POINTED OUT, THAT REPORT AND IT'S 17:46:49 DISCOVER WAS DISTURBING TO SAY THE LEAST. 17:46:52 VETERANS MAKE UP ONLY 10% OF THE POPULATION. 17:46:55 I DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY THAT ENOUGH. 17:46:56 10% OF THE POPULATION ARE VETERANS. 17:47:00 THEY ACCOUNT FOR 16% OF HOMELESS ADULTS. 17:47:04 NOW, I COMMEND PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE GOAL HE SET FOR OUR 17:47:08 COUNTRY OF ALL BUT ELIMINATING THE PROBLEM OF HOMELESS VETERANS 17:47:11 BY 2015. IT'S AN AMBITIOUS GOAL BUT ONE 17:47:15 WE MUST DO. WE HAVE AN HONOR TO SERVE THOSE 17:47:18 THAT SERVED OUR COUNTRY. WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO MAKE SURE 17:47:21 THAT NO VETERAN IS WITHOUT A 17:47:27 ADEQUATE SHELTER. MR. CHAIRMAN, MORE WOMEN 17:47:29 VETERANS ARE STARTING TO BECOME HOMELESS. 17:47:32 WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM. I ENCOURAGE MEMBERS TO GO TO THE 17:47:36 STAND DOWN AND TALK WITH THE HOMELESS VETERAN POPULATION. 17:47:40 THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT OF THE 17:47:43 COLD. I ENCOURAGE MY MEMBERS TO 17:47:44 SUPPORT THIS. GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK HER 17:47:51 TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? 17:47:54 I DO. MR. FLORES IS RECOGNIZED. 17:47:56 I WANT TO THANK MISS BASS FOR THIS AMENDMENT. 17:47:59 I THINK IT WAS DONE IN GOOD FAITH. 17:48:01 I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE ISSUES. 17:48:04 THE ISSUES RELATED TO VETERANS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. 17:48:07 I HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DISTRICTS IN MY DISTRICT NEXT TO 17:48:11 FT. HOOD, TEXAS AND I'M ON THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE WHICH 17:48:14 WORKS HARD EVERY DAY ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS TO DO THE RIGHT 17:48:18 THING FOR OUR VETERANS. THAT SAID, THIS IS ANOTHER 17:48:22 ATTEMPT TO RE-LITIGATE THE WILL OF THE HOUSE EXPRESSED IN HR 1. 17:48:26 THE APPROPRIATORS WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS ISSUE. 17:48:31 THERE ARE 30,000 VOUCHERS AVAILABLE TODAY, AND 20,000 OF 17:48:34 SHOEZ VOUCHERS WERE USED. 10,000 OF THESE VOUCHERS WEREN'T 17:48:39 USED. WHY WEREN'T THEY? 17:48:40 IN SOME CASES THEY WEREN'T WHERE THEY WERE NEEDED. 17:48:43 IN OTHER CASES IT WAS TO DELAYS THAT THE HUD AND VA ARE WORKING 17:48:48 TO RESOLVE. TODAY THE VA COMMITTEE IS 17:48:50 WORKING HARD TO DETERMINE WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. 17:48:54 WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE IT'S DUE TO LACK OF DOLLARS. 17:48:57 IT'S DUE TO A PROCESS AGAINST YOU. 17:48:59 THIS IS AN AREA WHERE FEDERAL DOLLARS DON'T CURE EVERY ISSUE. 17:49:03 THIS IS AN TISSUE WHERE BUREAUCRACY CANNOT TAKE CARE OF 17:49:09 THEIR OWN BUSINESS IN A GOOD MARNG. 17:49:10 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. 17:49:12 THIS BUDGET -- WE ALSO NEED TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE FACTS. 17:49:15 THIS BUDGET PROVIDES A RECORD HIGH LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR 17:49:19 VETERANS FOR MEDICAL CARE. THIS BILL PROVIDES ACCESS FOR 17:49:22 THE 6 MILLION PATIENTS THAT THE VA EXPECTS AND WILL COST UP $55 17:49:28 BILLION. THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE WE OWE THAT 17:49:31 TO OUR VETERANS. THE MARK IMPLEMENTS THE 17:49:34 ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY AND KEEPS FATE WITH THE MEN AND 17:49:38 WOMEN THAT RISK LIVES FOR OUR FREEDOM AND DOES WITHOUT RAISING 17:49:42 TAXES OR HURTING ECONOMIC GROWTH. 17:49:45 ACTUALLY THE CONVERSE IS TRUE BECAUSE THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK 17:49:48 CREATES ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND JOBS FOR THIS COUNTRY. 17:49:50 THE BEST WAY TO TAKE CARE OF VETERANS AS THEY RETURN IS TO 17:49:54 HAVE A ROBUST ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN FIND 17:49:57 GOOD-PAYING JOBS. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE BEST 17:50:00 SOCIAL PROGRAM EVER DESIGNED BY HUMANKIND WAS A PRIVATE SECTOR 17:50:04 JOB. THAT'S WHERE FAMILIES ARE FED, 17:50:06 WHERE THEY'RE HOUSED AND CHILDREN ARE 17:50:09 EDUCATED, AND THEY GROW THE LOCAL PROPERTY TAX BASE TO FUND 17:50:11 THELE SCHOOLS AND ALSO WHERE THEY CAN BECOME VALID 17:50:15 CONTRIBUTORS TO THE ECONOMY AND GROW OUR GDPP AND GROW ECONOMIC 17:50:18 OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHERS, SO WITH THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO 17:50:22 YIELD TO MR. STUTZMAN. THANK YOU, MR. FLORES. 17:50:27 YOU HAVE MADE YOUR POINTS VERY WELL MADE AND ACTUALLY I JUST 17:50:32 WANT TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID, 17:50:35 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON SOME OF MY COMMENTS AND MY THOUGHTS 17:50:37 AS WELL. HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE 17:50:40 ON THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US 17:50:45 ON THIS COMMITTEE AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY ON THE V.A. 17:50:48 COMMITTEE AS WELL WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO TAKE CARE OF 17:50:51 THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED US AND IN HARM'S WAY, AND THOSE WHO ARE 17:50:56 FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM HERE IN OUR COUNTRY, AND AS MR. FLORES 17:51:02 MENTIONED, THIS IS ONE THAT I THINK THAT IS ONE THAT THE 17:51:08 APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO HANDLE AND AS WE LOOK AT THE 17:51:14 PROBLEM OF HOMELESS VETERANS, THAT THERE MIGHT BE FUNDING 17:51:18 AVAILABLE. IT IS A MATTER OF GETTING 17:51:21 FURTHER INTO THE NUMBERS AND THAT IS ONE WHERE THE ISSUE IS 17:51:25 REALLY TO BE HANDLED BY THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, 17:51:28 BECAUSE AS WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL HEARINGS ON THE V.A. COMMITTEE, 17:51:31 WE ARE FINDING THAT THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN OUR 17:51:36 BUREAUCRACY AS WELL AS AND THE VETERANS. 17:51:41 THERE'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION, AND THERE'S ALSO THE INABILITY 17:51:47 TO REALLY REACH OUT AND WHETHER IT IS ON THE DEMAND SIDE OF OUR 17:51:53 VETERANS REALLY NEEDING THE HELP AND PURSUING IT OR WHETHER IT IS 17:51:56 A COMPLICATED SYSTEM, AND THEM BEING ABLE TO MANEUVER THROUGH 17:52:01 THE CHANNELS OF BUREAUCRACY AND GOVERNMENT OR WHETHER IT IS OUR 17:52:05 BUREAUCRACIES BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT AND LETTING THOSE 17:52:09 FOLKS KNOW THE BENEFITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. 17:52:19 SO, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE PASSIONATELY AS WELL THAT WE 17:52:20 NEED TO HELP THE VETERANS AND HELP THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO 17:52:22 SERVE US IN THE MILITARY, BUT AT THIS TIME, I THINK THAT THIS IS 17:52:26 AN AMENDMENT THAT IS BETTER SERVED IN ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAN 17:52:29 THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I YIELD BACK MY TIME TO MR. 17:52:35 STUTZMAN. IN SUMMARY I WOULD LIKE TO 17:52:37 SAY TWO THINGS. WE ARE PROVIDING THE FUNDING IN 17:52:39 THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK THAT THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED FOR 2012. 17:52:42 NUMBER TWO, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE FIXED WITHOUT 17:52:45 DOLLARS AND FIXED BY THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND 17:52:48 WORKING WITH THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO HOLD 17:52:51 THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE, AND TO MAKE THE 17:52:54 BUREAUCRACY WORK THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO IN ORDER TO TAKE 17:52:58 CARE OF THE VETERANS IN A BIPARTISAN BASIS. 17:53:00 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY 17:53:06 TIME BACK TO YOU. GENTLEMEN, A MINUTE TO CLOSE. 17:53:12 I'M GLAD TO HEAR -- OH. FIRST OF ALL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR 17:53:17 FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE THAT THERE IS 17:53:21 TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FOR THIS ISSUE. 17:53:24 MR. FLORES POINTED OUT A PROBLEM OF THE VOUCHERS BEING UNUSED AND 17:53:28 MR. STUTZMAN SAID THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BUREAUCRATIC 17:53:31 PROBLEM, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE PROBLEM WAS RESOLVED 17:53:35 AND SO THAT THE RESOURCES WERE USED, AND THE PROBLEM THAT YOU 17:53:38 ARE REFERRING TO FROM MY INFORMATION HAS GONE AWAY. 17:53:42 I DO HAVE TO SAY THOUGH THAT FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE 17:53:47 OF THE AISLE FOR AMENDMENTS THAT YOU DO SUPPORT IN GENERAL, I AM 17:53:51 BEGINNING TO HEAR A PATTERN, AND THAT PATTERN IS THAT IT SHOULD 17:53:53 BE SOLVED IN THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF 17:53:57 THAT INDICATES IT IS A CUT THAT YOU ARE NOT PARTICULARLY 17:54:00 COMFORTABLE WITH OR WHAT, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A 17:54:04 STAND HERE IN THIS COMMITTEE AS TO WHAT WE SUPPORT WHEN IT COMES 17:54:11 TO VETERANS AND HOMELESS VETERANS. 17:54:17 YOU ARE OUT OF TIME. THE TIME FOR GENTLE LADY HAS 17:54:22 EXPIRED. THE AMENDMENT IS ON GREEN FOR 17:54:24 THE GENTLEWOMAN OFFERED. IN FAVOR AYES AND OPPOSED NOES. 17:54:29 THE NOES HAVE IT. A ROLL CALL VOTE IS REQUESTED 17:54:33 THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. MR. GARRETT. 17:54:38 MR. SIMPSON. MR. SIMPSON, NO. 17:54:42 MR. CAMPBELL. MR. CAMPBELL, NO. 17:54:47 MR. CALVERT, NO. MR. AKIN, NO. 17:54:56 MR. COLE, NO. MR. PRICE. 17:55:03 MR. PRICE, NO. MR. McCLINTOCK, NO. 17:55:10 MR. CHAFFETZ, NO. MR. STUTZMAN, NO. 17:55:17 MR. LANKFORD, NO. MS. BLACK. 17:55:25 MS. BLACK, NO. MR. RIBBLE, NO. 17:55:32 MR. FLORES, NO. MR. MULVANEY, NO. 17:55:44 MR. HUELSKAMP, NO. MR. YOUNG, NO. 17:55:49 MR. AMASH, NO. MR. ROKITA, NO. 17:56:01 MR. GIUNTA, NO. MR. WOODALL, NO. 17:56:07 MR. GARRETT, NO. MR. VAN HOLLEN, AYE. 17:56:17 MRS. SCHWARTZ, AYE. MRS. CAPTUR, AYE. 17:56:27 MR. DOGGETT, AYE. MR. BLUMENAUER, AYE. 17:56:35 MS. McCOLLUM, AYE. MR. YARMUTH, AYE. 17:56:49 MR. PASCARELL, AYE. MR. HONDA, AYE. 17:56:56 MR. RYAN. MRS. WASSERMANN SCHULTZ, AYE. 17:57:03 MRS. MOORE, AYE. MRS. CASTOR, AYE. 17:57:11 MR. SHULER, AYE. MR. TONKO, AYE. 17:57:25 MS. BASS, AYE. CHAIRMAN RYAN. 17:57:30 NO. CHAIRMAN RYAN, NO. 17:57:33 ANYONE WISH TO VOTE OR WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? 17:57:36 THE CLERK WILL REPORT. ON THAT VOTE, THE AYES ARE 17:57:39 15, AND THE NOES ARE 22. THERE BEING 15 AYES AND 22 17:57:47 NOs, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. 17:57:51 NEXT, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT FROM MR. VAN HOLLEN, AND THE CLERK 17:57:57 WILL REPORT. AMENDMENT DESIGNATED AS 17:58:00 NUMBER 13 OFFERED BY RANKING MEMBER VAN HOLLEN, REJECTING 17:58:03 CUTS TO MEDICARE BENEFITS TO SEENEER -- SENIORS SUCH AS HELP 17:58:10 FOR PRESCRIPTION CARE COSTS. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED 17:58:14 FOR SIX MINUTES. THIS AMENDMENT IS VERY SIMPLE 17:58:18 AND STRAIGHT FORWARD. IT SAYS, LET'S NOT CUT BENEFITS 17:58:22 TO SENIORS UNDER MEDICARE, AND THOSE BENEFITS ADDED TO MEDICARE 17:58:28 UNDER THE HEALTH CARE REFORM ACT THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR. 17:58:31 AS WE INDICATED EARLIER, DESPITE ALL OF THE CAMPAIGN ADS RUN LAST 17:58:37 FALL AGAINST DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, ATTACKING THEM FOR 17:58:44 SUPPOSEDLY CUTTING MEDICARE, THE SAVINGS THAT WERE ACHIEVED 17:58:50 THROUGH THE REFORMS ARE IN FACT INCLUDED IN THE REPUBLICAN 17:58:56 BUDGET. LET'S JUST BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT 17:58:58 THAT. WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED

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boy walks into little red school house school, town, fields train passes factories, houses man runs spinning-wheel device, man milks cow, office worker talks on phone, doctor examines child, all on same screen three college buildings people college students listen to professor in cap, gown, doctor, lawyer, professor, butcher, baker, buggy whip maker professor carries stack of books, film cans, or large gold coins factory worker holds same professor pulls down screen labeled BIRTH RATE line shows birth rate growth line shows growth of STUDENT ENROLLMENT line shows growth of NATIONAL WEALTH professor watches car full of wild 1910 students pass car full of wild 1960 students passes town, airport, factories scientists work machines, cows, office workers, doctor tends patient, all in same screen factory outline: men in caps and gowns work at desks factory outline changes to test tubes outline, scientists work in lab test tubes outline changes to Capitol Building outline, workers work at desks Capitol outline changes to Pentagon outline, army officers work at desks people in caps, gowns (seen again) people people in various occupations professor puts math formula on board professor, doctor, lawyer, businessman next to stacks of gold coins people of various occupations drive cars professor's car bucks, bounces, dies professor throws away cap, gown, approaches factory professor enters door marked PROFESSORS WANTED VACATIONS PENSIONS TOP PAY OPPORTUNITY FOR ADVANCEMENT PROFIT SHARING boy at desk draws, in notebook, stick figures holding bags of money, labels them PROF, ENGINEER professor pulls down screen labeled BIRTH RATE 1910 1920 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 line shows rise in birth rate school outline labeled STUDENT ENROLLMENT 1960 1970 profs in school outline college buildings question mark Dollar sign $ changes to stack of gold coins labeled 4 1/2 BILLION, outline of school, stacks of gold under: pipe, liquor bottle, sports equipment, jockey on horse art: stacks of coins grow higher, money amounts grow higher as years of 60s pass coins fall into new stack, which floats past students coins fall into new stack in front of college building coins fall in front of professor, who stands next to doctor, lawyer coins fall in front of people of various occupations, some of whom change to professors coins fall in front of college buildings question mark question mark in front of gold coins capitol buildings buildings labeled PHILANTHROPIC FOUNDATION, UNION HALL, UNIVERSITY college building labeled ALDER HALL, banner reads HOMECOMING, sign DONATED BY CLASS OF 1929 various workers in cutaway building hands write checks for college funds office buildings, factories (seen again) company PRESIDENT talks on phone, factory BG, cap appears on head, he pushes buttons, capped men enter man talks sternly to meeting, some wear caps scientists wear caps, work in lab coins fall into stack 500 MILLION question mark stack of coins stack of coins grows from school outline past US map full of factories (seen again) coins fall into Erlenmeyer flask, liquid drips from flask, turns into coins 500 MILLION, all in outline map of US (seen again) stacks of coins 250 BILLION, coin expands, turns to wedge 500 MILLION coins in school outline professor looks at stack of coins labeled PALEOZOIC PSYCHIC PHENOMENA professor sees collapsed LIBRARY coins fall college buildings AUDITORIUM conductor bows, conducts SCIENCE building microscope, hypodermic, plants grow around them building man works big stone age computer submarine submerged college buildings (seen again) people students in caps, gowns US map globe, silhouette of student FG foreign buildings, vases, musical instruments, people US founding fathers, Abe Lincoln, Vikings, scientists through the ages including Newton, Einstein silhouettes of students, globe BG student walks to modern building, casts large shadow on brick wall

Vermont - This Land of Ours Carl Dudley 1947 1940s B/W B/W North America United States Vermont An educational film about the State of Vermont Vermont, map of New England, pan countryside, high tension power lines, Lake Champlain, bridge, Brattleboro, loom, Rutland, marble quarry, marble warehouse, Barre, Rock of Ages granite quarry, breaking block, granite on train flatcar, Montpelier, capitol building, Burlington, Ethan Allen statue, State University of Vermont, Bennington, monument, Bennington School for Girls, Calvin Coolidge birthplace at Plymouth, farms, poultry, chickens, turkeys, harvesting potatoes, potatoes, cattle, cows, dairy farm, milk, cream, butter, cheese, milk tank truck, maple syrup, sap gathering, maple syrup candy, covered bridge, old inn, hotel, fishing, snow skiing, dog sled, Brattleboro, marble quarry, granite, maple syrup, dairy farm, fly fishing, capitol building, tractor, country road. TFA-92B

From a vintage newsreel about World War II Canadian solders stationed in the UK visit a royal farm in Windsor. They inspect the cattle and watch a sow with her piglets. A soldier receives a bottle of milk from a milkmaid.

A ranch near Kerrville, Texas, United States. A sign reads 'ED C Henke, Ranch'. The Henke family sits and eats in the dining room. The sons of the Texas family are overseas serving in World War 2. Mr Henke and his youngest son work in the ranch. They milk cows. The grandchild, a young boy, helps at the ranch with feeding livestock and collecting eggs from hens. A woman churns butter in the kitchen and women hang clothes on a clothesline to dry. A woman collects wood and brings it inside the kitchen to fuel the stove. View of cattle in a corral. The men ride horses. Mrs Henke works in the kitchen and views a rack of filled canning jars in the pantry. A teenage boy in the family carries a deer buck he has hunted over his shoulder and brings it home as his pet dog follows. A man and his grandson go fishing. The man's horse stands by. The family exit the house to go to church in their sedan car. They talk with the neighbors and the family attends the Church service. Views inside the church during the service. The family enjoys a board game at home in the evening. Location: Kerrville Texas USA. Date: 1945.