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Press Conference with Representative Michelle Bachmann on Tea Party Caucus Also Attending: Ana Puig Homemaker - Pennsylvania Katrina Pierson - Dallas, TX Involved with Dallas Tea Party Cathy Trauernicht - Potomac, MD. Small Business Owner Diana Reimer - Philadelphia, PA Homemaker Danielle Hollars - Woodbridge, VA Veteran, Mother Tito Munoz - Dale City, VA Construction Company owner Keli Carender - Seattle, WA Tea Party Organizer, Actress William Oldfield - Annapolis, MD Businessman, Entrepreneur SLUG: 1000 BACHMANN PRESSER RS25 79 AR: 16x9 Disc:949 Press Conference with Rep. Michelle Bachmann on Tea Party Caucus SLUG: 1000 BACHMANN PRESSER RS25 79 AR: 16x9 Disc:949 10:09:56 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, everyone, for coming today. We're very thrilled that you're here and we thank you for your interest in the Tea Party Caucus. My name is Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, I'm from Minnesota's Sixth Congressional District and we're grateful and gratified that you have this level of interest. But there's probably been in this last year and a half no more interest than any group other than the Tea Party because they represent mainstream American people who have decided to get up off the couch because they want to take their country back. They've come essentially under a banner of three things and it's this, 10:10:32 they believe that we are taxed enough already, that the federal government should not spend more money than it takes in and that Congress should act within the constitutional limitations as given to us by the founding fathers. That is the banner that we believe in. (Applause.) And to that end, we have seen people show up for town hall meetings and come here for demonstrations. And so the other thing that we have heard along that line is that Congress is not listening to those people. 10:11:06 So we decided to form a Tea Party Caucus for one very important purpose, to listen to the concerns of the Tea Party. Now, what we are not, we are not the mouthpiece of the Tea Party and controlling it from Washington, D.C. I am not the head of the Tea Party nor are any of these members of Congress the head of the Tea Party movement. 10:11:27 The people are the head of the Tea Party movement in all of their forms. (Applause.) We are also not here to vouch for the Tea Party or to vouch for any Tea Party organizations or to vouch for any individual people or actions or billboards or signs or anything of the Tea Party. We are here to listen and to be receptacle (sic). We had a wonderful opening meeting this morning. We had 24 members of the United States Congress in attendance at our Tea Party Caucus and we had these wonderful people that I'd like have you hear from behind me. We have several members of Congress who have asked also to speak, 10:12:08 but first what I'd like to ask is one of the people who spoke to us today and please come, identify yourself, where you're from, the beautiful baby you're holding and what you told everyone today in the Tea Party Caucus. 10:12:23 MS. HOLLERS: Good morning, my name is Danielle Hollers (sp), I'm from Woodbridge, Virginia and I'm here for my children. I'm a stay at home mother of five. I'm an Army veteran and I was very dismayed to hear that people deem the Tea Party a bunch of terrorists. As a veteran of our Army, I'm not a terrorist; I'm a patriot and I have a right to protest against any legislation that goes against the will of the people. And I am here because I want to tell America, we are not terrorists, we are not racists, we are Americans who care about our country and the future for our children and our grandchildren. And that's all I have to say. Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. Thank you. 10:13:08 MS. PUIG: My name is Ana Puig (sp.) I'm originally from Brazil. I came to this country back in 1986 looking for the pursuit of happiness, life, liberty and opportunity. I have lived the American dream together with my family and what I see going on here in this country, I make no apologies anymore, I'm going to tell the truth. What I see going on is exactly what has taken place throughout Latin America under dictators such as Lula in Brazil, Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. We are going down the same path and it's called 21st century Marxism. It's no longer a bloody war; it's an ideological war and we have to turn the tide around now in 2010 by electing conservative candidates such as Mrs. Bachmann here with us, so we can bring conservatism back to this country and turn the tide around for our children and grandchildren. Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Please state who you are and where you're from. 10:14:00 MR. MUNOZ: My name is Tito Munoz, I live in Woodbridge, Virginia. This morning I have to go to my job site, five in the morning, get my construction site ready, tell the instructions to the employees so I could come here and talk to the congressmen that opened the doors and opened the ears for us, the people. Unfortunate for many of -- (inaudible) -- that we have done, they have not done so. They have called us racists. They have called us many names and they have insulted the Americans who are against big government or against socialist policies. As an immigrant who came here to America, I came here for liberty and I didn't come here for dependency. I came here for opportunity. I didn't come here to receive from the government or to be told by the government what I should do or what I should not do. I was a fighter in Colombia when I was a teenager and I fought against corruption and against government. I know what the price you pay sometimes. I was arrested in Colombia a couple of times and I know that it doesn't matter, I'm going to fight here in America because this is my country, this is my new country and I love this country. I love it deeply and I'm very happy that congressmen are listening to us, hopefully, more members of Congress will listen to the American people. We do not want a socialist democracy. We want a constitutional republic back to the basics of how it was founded for. Thank you very much. (Applause.) 10:15:46 MS. MUNOZ: Hi, I'm Debbie Bornstein Munoz and I'm here because I care about the Tea Party movement, not the Tea Party as a party, but the Tea Party movement. What most of us are concerned about is there has been a lack of transparency in the current administration. We feel frustrated. I, myself, I'm very concerned with the way our country seems to be regarding our traditional allies. I'm very concerned about Colombia in South America. We need them as an ally and I'd like Congress to pass the free trade agreement with Colombia. I'm very concerned immensely about Israel and I want you all to know and I want Congress to know that we need to care about the traditional allies and that's what's good for America and it's also what's good for the world. (Applause.) 10:16:41 MS. PEARSON: I'm Katrina Pearson with the Dallas Tea Party and founder of the Garland Tea Party. I'm a member and advocate for this movement simply because I grew up having to struggle, raise a child by myself, watch my grandparents work their fingers to the bone with nothing to show for it. And as I got educated, I realized that there are ways and mechanisms that can be put in place to help hardworking Americans achieve their dream. Unfortunately, we have many systems that are broken that need to be fixed and I fully support conservatives moving forward in this cause. Now, for racism, racism is not a Tea Party principle nor is it in any bylaws. Racism is not the fight of the Tea Party. If black leaders want to come together in this country and put it on the table, then we can discuss that. As of today, please understand that racism is not an issue of the Tea Party nor will it ever be. Thank you. (Applause.) 10:17:41 MS. KARENDER: Hi, my name is Kelly Karender (sp). I'm from Seattle, Washington and I'm here because I am done with the mentality of this current congressional leadership, which, to me, appears to be extremely arrogant, as some sort of aristocracy rather than the republic that we should be and that we are. I'm tired of these double standards that we're not supposed to fly to places, but the presidential dog gets his own jet to go somewhere. I'm tired that we're being lectured on things and how to live our lives, but that somehow this elitist class above us, they get to do whatever they want to do and I think it's time that we all become equal again as we should be, as is the American dream. And lastly, I'm done with people defining who I am, who know nothing about me and smearing my integrity and my character. People don't know how I was raised. They have no idea where my heart lies and to have them anonymously smear me like that is horrific especially when it comes from the mouth of your own representative on the floor of the United States Congress and that is totally unacceptable in the USA. Thank you. (Applause.) 10:19:04 MS. REIMER: I'm Diana Reimer (sp), Philadelphia Tea Party Patriots and national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots. I'm here today because I think this is just something great. It's about time that we're going to have our voices heard and this is our country. My husband and I are busy teaching people about what is happening to our country and bringing it back to our founding fathers' principles and I thank everyone, all the Caucus members and all the media here today. Thank you. (Applause.) 10:19:38 MS. TRAUNICH: My name is Cathy Traunich (sp) from Potomac, Maryland and I think perhaps the most overused word today is unsustainable. Members of Congress use the word, the president uses the word to talk about the unsustainable level of federal spending and the mounting federal debt. The Tea Party movement understands the meaning of unsustainable; it truly must be stopped and reversed and that's one of the principles that we're fighting for, to restore fiscal integrity to our government. Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana. REP. BURTON: I think, first of all, I want to thank Michele and the others that formed this caucus. I think you've heard today from people across the country, from various ethnic groups about how they feel about this government and the Tea Party movement. That should dispel an awful lot of the rumors about racism and other things because we have people from all ethnic backgrounds who are here today to talk about how they feel about America and constitutional government and lower taxes and less spending. So I hope all of you in the media today will carry that message back, that the Tea Party movement is all across this country, there's all races involved, all ethnic groups and they speak for America and they're speaking for them and their families and that's the message they should be giving to the people of this country through the media. Thank you. REP. BACHMANN: Louie Gohmert of Texas. (Applause.) 10:21:02 REP. GOHMERT: Thank you. This is an important movement to try to get both parties back on track, back to the things that made America great. And let me say something about this charge of things being tossed out here. When we walk through here when the health-care bill was being debated, I got up on the sidewalk over here that was just full of people, supposedly Tea Party folks that came on such short notice and I went and shook hands with everybody up and down that sidewalk as I moved toward the Cannon Building. And about every 10 to 15 feet, I encountered someone who said, I am not for you, I am for this health-care bill. So whatever they did, there were plants all the way through the crowd that nobody has talked about and, in fact, I got cussed by one when I got to the end of this street. I didn't come running to the media and whining and crying because, you know, we move on. We got elected to do a job. We have people yell names at us and I'm particularly surprised to find out under the definitions today, all of those who voted against Alan Keyes in 1996 who I voted for must have been racists, but anyway, thank you. This is a great day. Thank you, Michele, for pushing this. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. 10:22:27 MR. ALTFIELD: Hello, everyone, I'm Bill Altfield (sp) from Annapolis, Maryland, originally from Ohio where commercials first, government second and I came out here a few years ago and had to change a whole paradigm and start working in the government environment and everything I found was -- didn't make sense, was inefficient. There was no performance measurement and people never had an incentive or disincentive when they did something right or wrong and it made no sense to me because I had never seen it before; I'd spent 40 years of my life in the commercial side of the world and I came right here to the emerald city and was basically shocked. And so what's happened now, I'm trying to start my own business in Annapolis and I cannot believe how difficult its been because there are so many regulations in everything I'm trying to accomplish I can't get anything done without hiring more people that I can't afford right now. So I'm just here saying that we need to support the private sector so the private sector can pay the taxes to support the government when the government provides constituent services and then we asked the government to provide those constituent services in a very, very efficient performance-based way. I think it's so simple that I think all these other problems we're all talking about will solve themselves if we actually start that way and focus on that. Thanks very much. REP. BACHMANN: Dr. Paul Broun of Georgia. 10:23:40 REP. BROUN: I'm Paul Broun of Georgia. The Tea Party movement is expressing the most powerful political force in America and it's written in the Constitution of the United States, "We, the people," we, the people expressing their concern about their loss of freedom, the fiscal irresponsibility of this administration and the leadership here in this House. They want to go back to constitutionally limited government and if we'd go to what this document says, what our founding fathers meant for the Congress and the government to be doing, then we would have a whole lot different government. We would have fiscal responsibility. We would have people that were free and not encumbered by government. So we've got to get our government back and that's what this is all about. We're listening. They're speaking. That's what this Tea Party Caucus is all about. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. Dr. Phil Gingrey of Georgia. 10:24:33 REP. GINGREY: Well, obviously, this press conference is all about the Tea Party patriot organization and the Tea Party Caucus that Michele Bachmann and other members, I'm proud to be founding member of that caucus. We had a meeting this morning. As Michele said at the outset, we're not the mouthpiece of the Tea Party patriots; we heard from about 20 of their organizational members, both at the national level and state levels and city levels and you heard from some of them just a little while ago. These people are true patriots. It's the greatest grassroots organization that I have ever seen and I call myself a Goldwater Republican, so I go back a pretty long ways. This is great. I cherish them. I say let's lean into the fight and let's take this country back in November. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Judge John Carter of Texas. 10:25:25 REP. CARTER: I'm John Carter from Texas and I want to tell you, I've never seen a greater gathering of patriots than the people that gathered with us this morning and the truth is these people are patriots who have decided to get up off the couch and lay down the channel changer and get involved in their government that they know they are in charge of. The people run this government and this is the voice of the people and we're here to listen. I'm just proud to be part of this. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Also, of Texas, John Culberson of Houston. REP. CULBERSON: Thank you. Thank you, Michele. It gives me great hope to see the spontaneous creation of the tea parties across the nation. Our country was founded on a constitution of limited federal government and checks and balances that we as constitutional conservatives share the commitment of the Tea Party members to return to the original design the founders gave us of a careful division of power between state and federal government. We're committed to the restoration of state sovereignty under the 10th Amendment and individual liberty. We're committed to restoring the checks and balances between the separate branches of government, but above all, we're committed to listening to the people across the country who have risen up with one voice, really, from coast to coast that the government is not governing with our consent. 10:26:45 Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama have awakened a sleeping giant from coast to coast that is building a tsunami that will sweep out these extremists that are governing the Congress in November and I am absolutely confident that America's best hope is in the Tea Party movement that has arisen spontaneously in a way that gives all of us great encouragement and inspiration. I'm very proud to be a member of the Tea Party Caucus, and work my heart out in the upcoming session to just say no to new spending and new taxes; and to get the government out of our lives, 10:27:22 out of our pockets; and leave us alone! Thank you, Michele, for doing this. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. You're welcome. We have other people here that I think that would like to speak, but in the interest of time, we may have to cut off questions, so -- or, I mean, cut off more speakers. So if there are any questions that you might have. Yes. Q Yes, Congresswoman Bachmann, by bringing this kind of a surprise here in the recent day, are you worried about putting your Republican colleagues in kind of a spot, in a with-us-or-against-us kind of a position? 10:27:49 REP. BACHMANN: Kevin, no, I'm not, because essentially what -- again, what we've heard from the people across the country is that Congress is not listening. As far as leadership goes, we have three members of the Republican leadership at least who've joined. The very first letter that I wrote was to Speaker Nancy Pelosi. I asked the speaker if she would join us in the Tea Party Caucus. And the last conversation I had here at Capitol Hill was with a Democratic colleague who has indicated he would like to join the Tea Party Caucus. So we are hoping to be bipartisan because this is all about constitutional conservatives returning under the banner of our Constitution. We're hoping to be bipartisan. 10:28:24 As for Republicans, as I said, we have three members of the Republican leadership that have joined. Another member who is in the leadership told me he's very supportive of what we're doing, and this is complementary, complementary to our UCUT program where we're asking the American taxpayers to vote on what they would like to see us cut in the budget, almost complementary to America Speaking Out, the website we launched where we want to dialogue with the American people. But this is unique because this is a caucus that is saying we are opening up our doors as members of Congress. We're letting real people with real stories and real lives coming in to speak to us about their very real concerns. It's not very often that you get an open door where you have 24 members of Congress listening to real people about what they're saying. 10:29:11 Again, we are not the Tea Party movement, as members -- (applause) -- we are listening, we are receptacles, and we are ears to listen to what the people have to say. So great question. Yes. Q Can you talk about the issue of the day, which is regulatory reform the president signed this morning? Are you hearing from Tea Party members any objections to that? Or is that high on the agenda? 10:29:32 REP. BACHMANN: Well, this is a perfect illustration where I can say I am not here to speak on behalf of the Tea Party movement. Whatever comments I would make about the regulatory reform bill -- I voted against; I think it's a very bad bill -- those comments are not to be associated with the Tea Party. They need to speak for themselves. But I think what the American people were told about that bill is that they were going to see Wall Street put in handcuffs and put in jail basically to be punished for what happened. We all agreed that the bad actors who got us into this situation needed to be punished. The only problem is a lot of the bad actors were missing from this bill. Freddie and Fannie were missing from this bill. The Community Reinvestment Act was missing from this bill. The first thing that we'll see for consumers is we will see -- we'll see ATM fees, in all likelihood, raised. We'll see the end, probably, of free checking for people. And then we'll probably also see credit very difficult to obtain for consumers. 10:30:32 That sounds like it's Main Street getting punished to me. That doesn't sound like it's Wall Street. So that's part of my concern. But, again, the perfect illustration I'm speaking words for Michele Bachmann, not for the Tea Party. Any other questions? Yes. Q As members of the -- Q Exactly what do you hope the caucus achieves? I mean, how -- and -- and -- and can you give us a -- sort of a scope of what you'll be doing, how often you'll meet et cetera? REP. BACHMANN: Well, we're meeting now for the first time. 10:30:56 We're very gratified because we filed the paperwork on Friday to start the caucus. It was approved on Monday. We thank the speaker and Chairman Brady for that. And now we -- as you see, we've just already had our first meeting with 24 members in attendance. We feel this was very successful. And so what -- going forward what we want to do is have a bigger earphone, if you will, to listen to the people. And we may possibly meet next week as well. And then, as you know, then we go back for a district work period. But our goal is to continue an ongoing dialogue in real time. And I would also ask the speaker here and now, 10:31:32 "Would you allow us to use Skype here in the United States Congress?" It's very difficult to ask people here -- (applause) -- to come and see us this morning. You heard from Tito. Tito's told us he had to go to his work site this morning at five o'clock this morning, prepare his construction work site, leave the work site, and drive all the way here to meet with members of Congress. I would say that was a challenge this morning, and he -- but we've seen people do that all across the country. What we want to be able to do is make it as convenient as possible, and we in the Tea Party Caucus would love to listen to people from Alaska, Hawaii, all of the states what do you want us to hear. And if we could use Skype, then people could wake up maybe in their district at five in the morning. We could be here. They -- and we could dialogue with each other. That's what we hope to do going forward. (Applause.) Q Do you see legislation coming out of this? REP. BACHMANN: We will see. But, again, we're here to be a receptacle. So we'll see from there. Q Ms. Bachmann -- REP. BACHMANN: Yes. Q -- do you count Mark Williams -- Q -- (inaudible) -- Tea Party movement broadly is factionalized, and has differences of opinion within itself about what appropriate communications rhetoric -- (off mike). We hear from the Tea Party coordinators here right and left, Mark and Jenny (ph) Bath (ph), about how they feel about the dissent and some of the criticism of their organization. It's part of it and the broader but numerous voices in the movement. 10:32:57 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you for asking the question that way because the message is getting through that we members of Congress are not the mouthpiece; those involved in the movement are the mouthpiece. So thank you. Q The question really was could you talk to some of the dissent in the movement, about the message, how it's communicated, and the absence of the presence of a singular one for the movement overall? MS. MARTIN: I'm Jenny Beth Martin, cofounder and national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots. And this is my fellow national coordinator and cofounder, Mark Meckler, TeaPartyPatriots.org. There is some dissent within some of the groups. What I think we can -- we all agree on are three core values that Tea Party Patriots laid out last June and July: fiscal responsibility, constitutionally- limited government and free markets. As far as this particular caucus goes that Congressman Bachmann has started, it came up on our weekly webinar last week with our local -- or this week with our local coordinators on Monday night. And they were enthusiastic about it because they hope that finally people in Congress are listening; you're going to promote our core values. And they were also cautious. They wanted to make sure that the people in Congress don't become the mouthpiece for the movement. And we've heard Congressman Bachmann and the rest of the congressmen here today say that that is not going to happen. MR. : And Carl, I think to deal more directly with your question, one of the issues that came up this week arising out of the NAACP's resolution against the Tea Party movement was the spokesperson for Tea Party Express, Mark Williams, stepped up, wrote what he considered a satirical essay from Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP, to President Lincoln. We found that essay to be racist, offensive, vile. Williams has a long history of making offensive, racist statements, referring to Muslims as animals, the president as an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug" and the "racist-in-chief." We believe there is no room for that sort of vile racism in political discourse or any other polite discourse in society today. We distanced ourselves from that organization long ago. That organization is made up of a bus and few people who travel around the country. They've stood up since and stood behind Mark Williams. Our members have asked us to step away in the strongest of terms. You'll never see us on stage with them. You'll never see us support that kind of rhetoric. In every large movement, 145 million people in the U.S, there is always a fringe. And so that doesn't represent the movement at large. Q Ms. Bachmann? REP. BACHMANN: Any other questions? Yes. Q Are you going to support Tea Party candidates being involved in congressional debates in various districts? (Inaudible) -- locked out of debates, is the Tea Party's Caucus going to support that? REP. BACHMANN: That will be up to the Tea Party organizations, and that will be up to the various -- Q I'm talking specifically about your caucus, not necessarily -- REP. BACHMANN: No. We -- our whole purpose is to be a listening ear to the Tea Party and nothing more. The Tea Party is a set of ideas. At this point, it's not a political organization. If they become a political organization, that's up to them, because the -- we have the Republican Party. We have the Democrat Party. They are political organizations. We are a listening ear, and we're not weighing into that. So thanks for asking the question. MR. : Last question. Q The Blue Dog Caucus has been quite successful on the Democratic side, holding up legislation it finds to be too fiscally irresponsible -- REP. GOHMERT: And caving at the last minute -- (inaudible) -- (Laughter.) MR. : (Inaudible) -- to the people! MR. : Thank you, Louie. Q (Inaudible) -- do you see your caucus playing a similar role -- (inaudible) -- think -- you know -- (inaudible) -- Republican side should the majority go back to the GOP? REP. BACHMANN: Well, as I said, we stand for three things. And it's the fact that the federal government should not spend more money than what it takes in. Number two, our people are taxed enough already. And, number three, Congress needs to get to acting within the limitations placed on it by the Constitution. And we may -- you may hear us weighing in on those issues going forward. So thank you very much, everyone. Thank you for coming today. REP. GOHMERT: Let me -- let me -- let me just add one thing. The importance of listening to this movement is this. Despite so many in the media trying to marginalize the Tea Party, what you have in the Tea Party are taxpayers. And we've seen the numbers. We may be at 53 percent of the country, we're told, who will be paying income tax. We've -- also have seen the numbers that 28 percent of Americans identify themselves with the Tea Party. Do the math. Over half of the people who are paying the taxes in this country are part of the Tea Party. That's a group you need to listen to, and that's why we're here. Thank you all. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, everyone. Thank you for coming.
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Press Conference with Representative Michelle Bachmann on Tea Party Caucus Also Attending: Ana Puig Homemaker - Pennsylvania Katrina Pierson - Dallas, TX Involved with Dallas Tea Party Cathy Trauernicht - Potomac, MD. Small Business Owner Diana Reimer - Philadelphia, PA Homemaker Danielle Hollars - Woodbridge, VA Veteran, Mother Tito Munoz - Dale City, VA Construction Company owner Keli Carender - Seattle, WA Tea Party Organizer, Actress William Oldfield - Annapolis, MD Businessman, Entrepreneur SLUG: 1000 BACHMANN PRESSER RS25 79 AR: 16x9 Disc:949 Press Conference with Rep. Michelle Bachmann on Tea Party Caucus SLUG: 1000 BACHMANN PRESSER RS25 79 AR: 16x9 Disc:949 10:09:56 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, everyone, for coming today. We're very thrilled that you're here and we thank you for your interest in the Tea Party Caucus. My name is Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, I'm from Minnesota's Sixth Congressional District and we're grateful and gratified that you have this level of interest. But there's probably been in this last year and a half no more interest than any group other than the Tea Party because they represent mainstream American people who have decided to get up off the couch because they want to take their country back. They've come essentially under a banner of three things and it's this, 10:10:32 they believe that we are taxed enough already, that the federal government should not spend more money than it takes in and that Congress should act within the constitutional limitations as given to us by the founding fathers. That is the banner that we believe in. (Applause.) And to that end, we have seen people show up for town hall meetings and come here for demonstrations. And so the other thing that we have heard along that line is that Congress is not listening to those people. 10:11:06 So we decided to form a Tea Party Caucus for one very important purpose, to listen to the concerns of the Tea Party. Now, what we are not, we are not the mouthpiece of the Tea Party and controlling it from Washington, D.C. I am not the head of the Tea Party nor are any of these members of Congress the head of the Tea Party movement. 10:11:27 The people are the head of the Tea Party movement in all of their forms. (Applause.) We are also not here to vouch for the Tea Party or to vouch for any Tea Party organizations or to vouch for any individual people or actions or billboards or signs or anything of the Tea Party. We are here to listen and to be receptacle (sic). We had a wonderful opening meeting this morning. We had 24 members of the United States Congress in attendance at our Tea Party Caucus and we had these wonderful people that I'd like have you hear from behind me. We have several members of Congress who have asked also to speak, 10:12:08 but first what I'd like to ask is one of the people who spoke to us today and please come, identify yourself, where you're from, the beautiful baby you're holding and what you told everyone today in the Tea Party Caucus. 10:12:23 MS. HOLLERS: Good morning, my name is Danielle Hollers (sp), I'm from Woodbridge, Virginia and I'm here for my children. I'm a stay at home mother of five. I'm an Army veteran and I was very dismayed to hear that people deem the Tea Party a bunch of terrorists. As a veteran of our Army, I'm not a terrorist; I'm a patriot and I have a right to protest against any legislation that goes against the will of the people. And I am here because I want to tell America, we are not terrorists, we are not racists, we are Americans who care about our country and the future for our children and our grandchildren. And that's all I have to say. Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. Thank you. 10:13:08 MS. PUIG: My name is Ana Puig (sp.) I'm originally from Brazil. I came to this country back in 1986 looking for the pursuit of happiness, life, liberty and opportunity. I have lived the American dream together with my family and what I see going on here in this country, I make no apologies anymore, I'm going to tell the truth. What I see going on is exactly what has taken place throughout Latin America under dictators such as Lula in Brazil, Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. We are going down the same path and it's called 21st century Marxism. It's no longer a bloody war; it's an ideological war and we have to turn the tide around now in 2010 by electing conservative candidates such as Mrs. Bachmann here with us, so we can bring conservatism back to this country and turn the tide around for our children and grandchildren. Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Please state who you are and where you're from. 10:14:00 MR. MUNOZ: My name is Tito Munoz, I live in Woodbridge, Virginia. This morning I have to go to my job site, five in the morning, get my construction site ready, tell the instructions to the employees so I could come here and talk to the congressmen that opened the doors and opened the ears for us, the people. Unfortunate for many of -- (inaudible) -- that we have done, they have not done so. They have called us racists. They have called us many names and they have insulted the Americans who are against big government or against socialist policies. As an immigrant who came here to America, I came here for liberty and I didn't come here for dependency. I came here for opportunity. I didn't come here to receive from the government or to be told by the government what I should do or what I should not do. I was a fighter in Colombia when I was a teenager and I fought against corruption and against government. I know what the price you pay sometimes. I was arrested in Colombia a couple of times and I know that it doesn't matter, I'm going to fight here in America because this is my country, this is my new country and I love this country. I love it deeply and I'm very happy that congressmen are listening to us, hopefully, more members of Congress will listen to the American people. We do not want a socialist democracy. We want a constitutional republic back to the basics of how it was founded for. Thank you very much. (Applause.) 10:15:46 MS. MUNOZ: Hi, I'm Debbie Bornstein Munoz and I'm here because I care about the Tea Party movement, not the Tea Party as a party, but the Tea Party movement. What most of us are concerned about is there has been a lack of transparency in the current administration. We feel frustrated. I, myself, I'm very concerned with the way our country seems to be regarding our traditional allies. I'm very concerned about Colombia in South America. We need them as an ally and I'd like Congress to pass the free trade agreement with Colombia. I'm very concerned immensely about Israel and I want you all to know and I want Congress to know that we need to care about the traditional allies and that's what's good for America and it's also what's good for the world. (Applause.) 10:16:41 MS. PEARSON: I'm Katrina Pearson with the Dallas Tea Party and founder of the Garland Tea Party. I'm a member and advocate for this movement simply because I grew up having to struggle, raise a child by myself, watch my grandparents work their fingers to the bone with nothing to show for it. And as I got educated, I realized that there are ways and mechanisms that can be put in place to help hardworking Americans achieve their dream. Unfortunately, we have many systems that are broken that need to be fixed and I fully support conservatives moving forward in this cause. Now, for racism, racism is not a Tea Party principle nor is it in any bylaws. Racism is not the fight of the Tea Party. If black leaders want to come together in this country and put it on the table, then we can discuss that. As of today, please understand that racism is not an issue of the Tea Party nor will it ever be. Thank you. (Applause.) 10:17:41 MS. KARENDER: Hi, my name is Kelly Karender (sp). I'm from Seattle, Washington and I'm here because I am done with the mentality of this current congressional leadership, which, to me, appears to be extremely arrogant, as some sort of aristocracy rather than the republic that we should be and that we are. I'm tired of these double standards that we're not supposed to fly to places, but the presidential dog gets his own jet to go somewhere. I'm tired that we're being lectured on things and how to live our lives, but that somehow this elitist class above us, they get to do whatever they want to do and I think it's time that we all become equal again as we should be, as is the American dream. And lastly, I'm done with people defining who I am, who know nothing about me and smearing my integrity and my character. People don't know how I was raised. They have no idea where my heart lies and to have them anonymously smear me like that is horrific especially when it comes from the mouth of your own representative on the floor of the United States Congress and that is totally unacceptable in the USA. Thank you. (Applause.) 10:19:04 MS. REIMER: I'm Diana Reimer (sp), Philadelphia Tea Party Patriots and national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots. I'm here today because I think this is just something great. It's about time that we're going to have our voices heard and this is our country. My husband and I are busy teaching people about what is happening to our country and bringing it back to our founding fathers' principles and I thank everyone, all the Caucus members and all the media here today. Thank you. (Applause.) 10:19:38 MS. TRAUNICH: My name is Cathy Traunich (sp) from Potomac, Maryland and I think perhaps the most overused word today is unsustainable. Members of Congress use the word, the president uses the word to talk about the unsustainable level of federal spending and the mounting federal debt. The Tea Party movement understands the meaning of unsustainable; it truly must be stopped and reversed and that's one of the principles that we're fighting for, to restore fiscal integrity to our government. Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana. REP. BURTON: I think, first of all, I want to thank Michele and the others that formed this caucus. I think you've heard today from people across the country, from various ethnic groups about how they feel about this government and the Tea Party movement. That should dispel an awful lot of the rumors about racism and other things because we have people from all ethnic backgrounds who are here today to talk about how they feel about America and constitutional government and lower taxes and less spending. So I hope all of you in the media today will carry that message back, that the Tea Party movement is all across this country, there's all races involved, all ethnic groups and they speak for America and they're speaking for them and their families and that's the message they should be giving to the people of this country through the media. Thank you. REP. BACHMANN: Louie Gohmert of Texas. (Applause.) 10:21:02 REP. GOHMERT: Thank you. This is an important movement to try to get both parties back on track, back to the things that made America great. And let me say something about this charge of things being tossed out here. When we walk through here when the health-care bill was being debated, I got up on the sidewalk over here that was just full of people, supposedly Tea Party folks that came on such short notice and I went and shook hands with everybody up and down that sidewalk as I moved toward the Cannon Building. And about every 10 to 15 feet, I encountered someone who said, I am not for you, I am for this health-care bill. So whatever they did, there were plants all the way through the crowd that nobody has talked about and, in fact, I got cussed by one when I got to the end of this street. I didn't come running to the media and whining and crying because, you know, we move on. We got elected to do a job. We have people yell names at us and I'm particularly surprised to find out under the definitions today, all of those who voted against Alan Keyes in 1996 who I voted for must have been racists, but anyway, thank you. This is a great day. Thank you, Michele, for pushing this. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. 10:22:27 MR. ALTFIELD: Hello, everyone, I'm Bill Altfield (sp) from Annapolis, Maryland, originally from Ohio where commercials first, government second and I came out here a few years ago and had to change a whole paradigm and start working in the government environment and everything I found was -- didn't make sense, was inefficient. There was no performance measurement and people never had an incentive or disincentive when they did something right or wrong and it made no sense to me because I had never seen it before; I'd spent 40 years of my life in the commercial side of the world and I came right here to the emerald city and was basically shocked. And so what's happened now, I'm trying to start my own business in Annapolis and I cannot believe how difficult its been because there are so many regulations in everything I'm trying to accomplish I can't get anything done without hiring more people that I can't afford right now. So I'm just here saying that we need to support the private sector so the private sector can pay the taxes to support the government when the government provides constituent services and then we asked the government to provide those constituent services in a very, very efficient performance-based way. I think it's so simple that I think all these other problems we're all talking about will solve themselves if we actually start that way and focus on that. Thanks very much. REP. BACHMANN: Dr. Paul Broun of Georgia. 10:23:40 REP. BROUN: I'm Paul Broun of Georgia. The Tea Party movement is expressing the most powerful political force in America and it's written in the Constitution of the United States, "We, the people," we, the people expressing their concern about their loss of freedom, the fiscal irresponsibility of this administration and the leadership here in this House. They want to go back to constitutionally limited government and if we'd go to what this document says, what our founding fathers meant for the Congress and the government to be doing, then we would have a whole lot different government. We would have fiscal responsibility. We would have people that were free and not encumbered by government. So we've got to get our government back and that's what this is all about. We're listening. They're speaking. That's what this Tea Party Caucus is all about. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. Dr. Phil Gingrey of Georgia. 10:24:33 REP. GINGREY: Well, obviously, this press conference is all about the Tea Party patriot organization and the Tea Party Caucus that Michele Bachmann and other members, I'm proud to be founding member of that caucus. We had a meeting this morning. As Michele said at the outset, we're not the mouthpiece of the Tea Party patriots; we heard from about 20 of their organizational members, both at the national level and state levels and city levels and you heard from some of them just a little while ago. These people are true patriots. It's the greatest grassroots organization that I have ever seen and I call myself a Goldwater Republican, so I go back a pretty long ways. This is great. I cherish them. I say let's lean into the fight and let's take this country back in November. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Judge John Carter of Texas. 10:25:25 REP. CARTER: I'm John Carter from Texas and I want to tell you, I've never seen a greater gathering of patriots than the people that gathered with us this morning and the truth is these people are patriots who have decided to get up off the couch and lay down the channel changer and get involved in their government that they know they are in charge of. The people run this government and this is the voice of the people and we're here to listen. I'm just proud to be part of this. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Also, of Texas, John Culberson of Houston. REP. CULBERSON: Thank you. Thank you, Michele. It gives me great hope to see the spontaneous creation of the tea parties across the nation. Our country was founded on a constitution of limited federal government and checks and balances that we as constitutional conservatives share the commitment of the Tea Party members to return to the original design the founders gave us of a careful division of power between state and federal government. We're committed to the restoration of state sovereignty under the 10th Amendment and individual liberty. We're committed to restoring the checks and balances between the separate branches of government, but above all, we're committed to listening to the people across the country who have risen up with one voice, really, from coast to coast that the government is not governing with our consent. 10:26:45 Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama have awakened a sleeping giant from coast to coast that is building a tsunami that will sweep out these extremists that are governing the Congress in November and I am absolutely confident that America's best hope is in the Tea Party movement that has arisen spontaneously in a way that gives all of us great encouragement and inspiration. I'm very proud to be a member of the Tea Party Caucus, and work my heart out in the upcoming session to just say no to new spending and new taxes; and to get the government out of our lives, 10:27:22 out of our pockets; and leave us alone! Thank you, Michele, for doing this. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. You're welcome. We have other people here that I think that would like to speak, but in the interest of time, we may have to cut off questions, so -- or, I mean, cut off more speakers. So if there are any questions that you might have. Yes. Q Yes, Congresswoman Bachmann, by bringing this kind of a surprise here in the recent day, are you worried about putting your Republican colleagues in kind of a spot, in a with-us-or-against-us kind of a position? 10:27:49 REP. BACHMANN: Kevin, no, I'm not, because essentially what -- again, what we've heard from the people across the country is that Congress is not listening. As far as leadership goes, we have three members of the Republican leadership at least who've joined. The very first letter that I wrote was to Speaker Nancy Pelosi. I asked the speaker if she would join us in the Tea Party Caucus. And the last conversation I had here at Capitol Hill was with a Democratic colleague who has indicated he would like to join the Tea Party Caucus. So we are hoping to be bipartisan because this is all about constitutional conservatives returning under the banner of our Constitution. We're hoping to be bipartisan. 10:28:24 As for Republicans, as I said, we have three members of the Republican leadership that have joined. Another member who is in the leadership told me he's very supportive of what we're doing, and this is complementary, complementary to our UCUT program where we're asking the American taxpayers to vote on what they would like to see us cut in the budget, almost complementary to America Speaking Out, the website we launched where we want to dialogue with the American people. But this is unique because this is a caucus that is saying we are opening up our doors as members of Congress. We're letting real people with real stories and real lives coming in to speak to us about their very real concerns. It's not very often that you get an open door where you have 24 members of Congress listening to real people about what they're saying. 10:29:11 Again, we are not the Tea Party movement, as members -- (applause) -- we are listening, we are receptacles, and we are ears to listen to what the people have to say. So great question. Yes. Q Can you talk about the issue of the day, which is regulatory reform the president signed this morning? Are you hearing from Tea Party members any objections to that? Or is that high on the agenda? 10:29:32 REP. BACHMANN: Well, this is a perfect illustration where I can say I am not here to speak on behalf of the Tea Party movement. Whatever comments I would make about the regulatory reform bill -- I voted against; I think it's a very bad bill -- those comments are not to be associated with the Tea Party. They need to speak for themselves. But I think what the American people were told about that bill is that they were going to see Wall Street put in handcuffs and put in jail basically to be punished for what happened. We all agreed that the bad actors who got us into this situation needed to be punished. The only problem is a lot of the bad actors were missing from this bill. Freddie and Fannie were missing from this bill. The Community Reinvestment Act was missing from this bill. The first thing that we'll see for consumers is we will see -- we'll see ATM fees, in all likelihood, raised. We'll see the end, probably, of free checking for people. And then we'll probably also see credit very difficult to obtain for consumers. 10:30:32 That sounds like it's Main Street getting punished to me. That doesn't sound like it's Wall Street. So that's part of my concern. But, again, the perfect illustration I'm speaking words for Michele Bachmann, not for the Tea Party. Any other questions? Yes. Q As members of the -- Q Exactly what do you hope the caucus achieves? I mean, how -- and -- and -- and can you give us a -- sort of a scope of what you'll be doing, how often you'll meet et cetera? REP. BACHMANN: Well, we're meeting now for the first time. 10:30:56 We're very gratified because we filed the paperwork on Friday to start the caucus. It was approved on Monday. We thank the speaker and Chairman Brady for that. And now we -- as you see, we've just already had our first meeting with 24 members in attendance. We feel this was very successful. And so what -- going forward what we want to do is have a bigger earphone, if you will, to listen to the people. And we may possibly meet next week as well. And then, as you know, then we go back for a district work period. But our goal is to continue an ongoing dialogue in real time. And I would also ask the speaker here and now, 10:31:32 "Would you allow us to use Skype here in the United States Congress?" It's very difficult to ask people here -- (applause) -- to come and see us this morning. You heard from Tito. Tito's told us he had to go to his work site this morning at five o'clock this morning, prepare his construction work site, leave the work site, and drive all the way here to meet with members of Congress. I would say that was a challenge this morning, and he -- but we've seen people do that all across the country. What we want to be able to do is make it as convenient as possible, and we in the Tea Party Caucus would love to listen to people from Alaska, Hawaii, all of the states what do you want us to hear. And if we could use Skype, then people could wake up maybe in their district at five in the morning. We could be here. They -- and we could dialogue with each other. That's what we hope to do going forward. (Applause.) Q Do you see legislation coming out of this? REP. BACHMANN: We will see. But, again, we're here to be a receptacle. So we'll see from there. Q Ms. Bachmann -- REP. BACHMANN: Yes. Q -- do you count Mark Williams -- Q -- (inaudible) -- Tea Party movement broadly is factionalized, and has differences of opinion within itself about what appropriate communications rhetoric -- (off mike). We hear from the Tea Party coordinators here right and left, Mark and Jenny (ph) Bath (ph), about how they feel about the dissent and some of the criticism of their organization. It's part of it and the broader but numerous voices in the movement. 10:32:57 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you for asking the question that way because the message is getting through that we members of Congress are not the mouthpiece; those involved in the movement are the mouthpiece. So thank you. Q The question really was could you talk to some of the dissent in the movement, about the message, how it's communicated, and the absence of the presence of a singular one for the movement overall? MS. MARTIN: I'm Jenny Beth Martin, cofounder and national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots. And this is my fellow national coordinator and cofounder, Mark Meckler, TeaPartyPatriots.org. There is some dissent within some of the groups. What I think we can -- we all agree on are three core values that Tea Party Patriots laid out last June and July: fiscal responsibility, constitutionally- limited government and free markets. As far as this particular caucus goes that Congressman Bachmann has started, it came up on our weekly webinar last week with our local -- or this week with our local coordinators on Monday night. And they were enthusiastic about it because they hope that finally people in Congress are listening; you're going to promote our core values. And they were also cautious. They wanted to make sure that the people in Congress don't become the mouthpiece for the movement. And we've heard Congressman Bachmann and the rest of the congressmen here today say that that is not going to happen. MR. : And Carl, I think to deal more directly with your question, one of the issues that came up this week arising out of the NAACP's resolution against the Tea Party movement was the spokesperson for Tea Party Express, Mark Williams, stepped up, wrote what he considered a satirical essay from Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP, to President Lincoln. We found that essay to be racist, offensive, vile. Williams has a long history of making offensive, racist statements, referring to Muslims as animals, the president as an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug" and the "racist-in-chief." We believe there is no room for that sort of vile racism in political discourse or any other polite discourse in society today. We distanced ourselves from that organization long ago. That organization is made up of a bus and few people who travel around the country. They've stood up since and stood behind Mark Williams. Our members have asked us to step away in the strongest of terms. You'll never see us on stage with them. You'll never see us support that kind of rhetoric. In every large movement, 145 million people in the U.S, there is always a fringe. And so that doesn't represent the movement at large. Q Ms. Bachmann? REP. BACHMANN: Any other questions? Yes. Q Are you going to support Tea Party candidates being involved in congressional debates in various districts? (Inaudible) -- locked out of debates, is the Tea Party's Caucus going to support that? REP. BACHMANN: That will be up to the Tea Party organizations, and that will be up to the various -- Q I'm talking specifically about your caucus, not necessarily -- REP. BACHMANN: No. We -- our whole purpose is to be a listening ear to the Tea Party and nothing more. The Tea Party is a set of ideas. At this point, it's not a political organization. If they become a political organization, that's up to them, because the -- we have the Republican Party. We have the Democrat Party. They are political organizations. We are a listening ear, and we're not weighing into that. So thanks for asking the question. MR. : Last question. Q The Blue Dog Caucus has been quite successful on the Democratic side, holding up legislation it finds to be too fiscally irresponsible -- REP. GOHMERT: And caving at the last minute -- (inaudible) -- (Laughter.) MR. : (Inaudible) -- to the people! MR. : Thank you, Louie. Q (Inaudible) -- do you see your caucus playing a similar role -- (inaudible) -- think -- you know -- (inaudible) -- Republican side should the majority go back to the GOP? REP. BACHMANN: Well, as I said, we stand for three things. And it's the fact that the federal government should not spend more money than what it takes in. Number two, our people are taxed enough already. And, number three, Congress needs to get to acting within the limitations placed on it by the Constitution. And we may -- you may hear us weighing in on those issues going forward. So thank you very much, everyone. Thank you for coming today. REP. GOHMERT: Let me -- let me -- let me just add one thing. The importance of listening to this movement is this. Despite so many in the media trying to marginalize the Tea Party, what you have in the Tea Party are taxpayers. And we've seen the numbers. We may be at 53 percent of the country, we're told, who will be paying income tax. We've -- also have seen the numbers that 28 percent of Americans identify themselves with the Tea Party. Do the math. Over half of the people who are paying the taxes in this country are part of the Tea Party. That's a group you need to listen to, and that's why we're here. Thank you all. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, everyone. Thank you for coming.
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FTG FOR DAN HARRIS CS VO ON A CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THE TEA PARTY, THE NATION'S OLDEST CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE (NAACP) HAS JUST ADOPTED A RESOLUTION AT ITS ANNUAL CONVENTION CONDEMNING "RACIST BEHAVIOR" BY TEA PARTY MEMBERS, AND TEA PARTY IS FIGHTING BACK / INTV W/ DAVID WEBB, CO-FOUNDER OF TEA PARTY 365 NEW YORK CITY AND SIRIUS XM TALK SHOW HOST / HARRIS ISO How did you get involved in the Tea Party? 15:37:33 I .. last April I was asked to help put together the rally. I took a look at what their about, what they were planning to do and I put together the big rally down at city hall park. In your view does the Tea Party have an issue with racism? 15:37:50 I think that in any movement, any size movement on either side of the political aisle you are going to get a fringe element or an occasional element. But across the Tea Party not in just my experience. my organization, but in others I've not seen any outward signs of a racist element. You've never seen anything personally that made you feel uncomfortable? 15:38:12 No. I never have. I what I . uh to be fair -- There are times when people will bring something that's over the top in a sign. If any Tea Party leader sees that you come out, you denounce it, you ask them to put it away. It doesn't belong there. That's not what we're there for. 15:38:29 This is an issue about fiscal responsibility not about racism. Racism detracts from the issue. What do you think of what the NAACP is doing? 15:38:44 I think the NAACP in its march towards irrelevancy as an organization needs an enemy to maintain its power base. That's why they are doing this. 15:38:56 There is absolutely no true empirical evidence that supports what they are saying about the movement and what it appears they are going to say about the leadership. And I am one of the leaders and I interact with many of the other leaders. 15:39:14 We may not all agree on everything, but the one thing we agree on is that racism doesn't belong here. It's not accepted here and we denounce it if it is ever brought up. We have offered rewards, we have contacted the CBC, we have said show us the evidence. Let's prove it did or didn't happen. 15:39:31 They have refused to respond. It's a false argument. So you think this is all about politics? 15:39:38 I think this is about politics and energizing the base. You have an organization that has evolved into a leftist organization for the most part. When you look at their positions on school choice in the black community, their national policy . When you look at their support of unions on the far left with their ideas. When you look at the fact that the culture has changed in America . and shouting racism and playing the race card doesn't have what it used to. 15:40:05 But it does for a very small group. And they need to get that base together as the march to November continues it doesn't look good for the left. So let me push you a little bit. We've all seen the signs. There have been signs that compare Barak Obama to a monkey. There have been signs that have had the "N" word on them. When you see those signs how do you feel? 15:40:30 They're offensive. They don't belong there, but I'm going to use the same tact on the other side. 15:40:37 Condoleezza Rice having sex with a monkey giving birth to a monkey baby. George Bush is a Nazi. Whichever side that comes from it doesn't belong here. 15:40:47 And the people that bring that sign again, detract from what we're here to do. 15;40:51 Left . right dynamic there will always be fringe elements. Anyone who says otherwise is dishonest. 15:40:59 What the movement is about is something completely different. It represents a large broad and in according to some polls a majority of Americans and their views. And this is not based on just conservative vs. democrat. This is based on principles, on fiscal responsibility and limited government. So when you see obviously offensive signs . your conclusion is there are a few idiots out there but it doesn't represent the whole movement? 15:41:25 Absolutely. When you get a million people on the mall in Washington, DC you're going to find somebody who goes way beyond. But if the NAACP wants to condemn racism then I suggest they start with the New Black Panther Party. 15:41:39 That's video evidence. I'm going to kill cracker babies. I'm going to kill crackers. I hate crackers. Denigrating in the video I think most of America's seen a black man with a white woman. The same dynamic by the way that produced the President of the United States. 15:41:57 Why hasn't the President who had a beer summit after a Cambridge professor was arrested he said without knowing all the facts, the cops acted stupidly and had a bear summit November 2009 .where are we now with the summit again and the outcry by both the president, Mrs. Obama, and the NAACP against King Sami Shabaaz? Let me ask you about something else. While you dispute the merits of the NAACP's plan . setting that aside for a moment, what about the political reality. Do you think it will work . that they'll be able to sully the image of the Tea Party? 15:42:42 I think it will work for their base. But fundamental truths aside or rather based on the fundamental truths that Americans are looking at -- pocketbook issues, the NAACP will not win that argument. 15:42:57 They denigrated the Tea Parties in the beginning. The President said I don't even pay attention. Nancy Pelosi spoke fervently and emotionally about what she has seen. All this bad, racist element, these non-existent Americans - the few of them and yet millions have come out and spoken and you can't fail to see the truth after awhile. 15:43:21 This is a big nation and people are accepting the truth. --------------------------------------------------------------
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FTG FOR DAN HARRIS CS VO ON A CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THE TEA PARTY, THE NATION'S OLDEST CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE (NAACP) HAS JUST ADOPTED A RESOLUTION AT ITS ANNUAL CONVENTION CONDEMNING "RACIST BEHAVIOR" BY TEA PARTY MEMBERS, AND TEA PARTY IS FIGHTING BACK / INTV W/ DAVID WEBB, CO-FOUNDER OF TEA PARTY 365 NEW YORK CITY AND SIRIUS XM TALK SHOW HOST / WEBB ISO How did you get involved in the Tea Party? 15:37:33 I .. last April I was asked to help put together the rally. I took a look at what their about, what they were planning to do and I put together the big rally down at city hall park. In your view does the Tea Party have an issue with racism? 15:37:50 I think that in any movement, any size movement on either side of the political aisle you are going to get a fringe element or an occasional element. But across the Tea Party not in just my experience. my organization, but in others I've not seen any outward signs of a racist element. You've never seen anything personally that made you feel uncomfortable? 15:38:12 No. I never have. I what I . uh to be fair -- There are times when people will bring something that's over the top in a sign. If any Tea Party leader sees that you come out, you denounce it, you ask them to put it away. It doesn't belong there. That's not what we're there for. 15:38:29 This is an issue about fiscal responsibility not about racism. Racism detracts from the issue. What do you think of what the NAACP is doing? 15:38:44 I think the NAACP in its march towards irrelevancy as an organization needs an enemy to maintain its power base. That's why they are doing this. 15:38:56 There is absolutely no true empirical evidence that supports what they are saying about the movement and what it appears they are going to say about the leadership. And I am one of the leaders and I interact with many of the other leaders. 15:39:14 We may not all agree on everything, but the one thing we agree on is that racism doesn't belong here. It's not accepted here and we denounce it if it is ever brought up. We have offered rewards, we have contacted the CBC, we have said show us the evidence. Let's prove it did or didn't happen. 15:39:31 They have refused to respond. It's a false argument. So you think this is all about politics? 15:39:38 I think this is about politics and energizing the base. You have an organization that has evolved into a leftist organization for the most part. When you look at their positions on school choice in the black community, their national policy . When you look at their support of unions on the far left with their ideas. When you look at the fact that the culture has changed in America . and shouting racism and playing the race card doesn't have what it used to. 15:40:05 But it does for a very small group. And they need to get that base together as the march to November continues it doesn't look good for the left. So let me push you a little bit. We've all seen the signs. There have been signs that compare Barak Obama to a monkey. There have been signs that have had the "N" word on them. When you see those signs how do you feel? 15:40:30 They're offensive. They don't belong there, but I'm going to use the same tact on the other side. 15:40:37 Condoleezza Rice having sex with a monkey giving birth to a monkey baby. George Bush is a Nazi. Whichever side that comes from it doesn't belong here. 15:40:47 And the people that bring that sign again, detract from what we're here to do. 15;40:51 Left . right dynamic there will always be fringe elements. Anyone who says otherwise is dishonest. 15:40:59 What the movement is about is something completely different. It represents a large broad and in according to some polls a majority of Americans and their views. And this is not based on just conservative vs. democrat. This is based on principles, on fiscal responsibility and limited government. So when you see obviously offensive signs . your conclusion is there are a few idiots out there but it doesn't represent the whole movement? 15:41:25 Absolutely. When you get a million people on the mall in Washington, DC you're going to find somebody who goes way beyond. But if the NAACP wants to condemn racism then I suggest they start with the New Black Panther Party. 15:41:39 That's video evidence. I'm going to kill cracker babies. I'm going to kill crackers. I hate crackers. Denigrating in the video I think most of America's seen a black man with a white woman. The same dynamic by the way that produced the President of the United States. 15:41:57 Why hasn't the President who had a beer summit after a Cambridge professor was arrested he said without knowing all the facts, the cops acted stupidly and had a bear summit November 2009 .where are we now with the summit again and the outcry by both the president, Mrs. Obama, and the NAACP against King Sami Shabaaz? Let me ask you about something else. While you dispute the merits of the NAACP's plan . setting that aside for a moment, what about the political reality. Do you think it will work . that they'll be able to sully the image of the Tea Party? 15:42:42 I think it will work for their base. But fundamental truths aside or rather based on the fundamental truths that Americans are looking at -- pocketbook issues, the NAACP will not win that argument. 15:42:57 They denigrated the Tea Parties in the beginning. The President said I don't even pay attention. Nancy Pelosi spoke fervently and emotionally about what she has seen. All this bad, racist element, these non-existent Americans - the few of them and yet millions have come out and spoken and you can't fail to see the truth after awhile. 15:43:21 This is a big nation and people are accepting the truth. --------------------------------------------------------------
NAACP'S TEA PARTY RESOLUTION / DAVID WEBB INTERVIEW / WEEB ISO
FTG OF DAN HARRIS INTV W/ DAVID WEBB, CO-FOUNDER OF TEA PARTY365 NEW YORK CITY AND SIRIUS XM TALK SHOW HOST / WEBB ISO How did you get involved in the Tea Party? 15:37:33 I .. last April I was asked to help put together the rally. I took a look at what their about, what they were planning to do and I put together the big rally down at city hall park. In your view does the Tea Party have an issue with racism? 15:37:50 I think that in any movement, any size movement on either side of the political aisle you are going to get a fringe element or an occasional element. But across the Tea Party not in just my experience. my organization, but in others I've not seen any outward signs of a racist element. You've never seen anything personally that made you feel uncomfortable? 15:38:12 No. I never have. I what I . uh to be fair -- There are times when people will bring something that's over the top in a sign. If any Tea Party leader sees that you come out, you denounce it, you ask them to put it away. It doesn't belong there. That's not what we're there for. 15:38:29 This is an issue about fiscal responsibility not about racism. Racism detracts from the issue. What do you think of what the NAACP is doing? 15:38:44 I think the NAACP in its march towards irrelevancy as an organization needs an enemy to maintain its power base. That's why they are doing this. 15:38:56 There is absolutely no true empirical evidence that supports what they are saying about the movement and what it appears they are going to say about the leadership. And I am one of the leaders and I interact with many of the other leaders. 15:39:14 We may not all agree on everything, but the one thing we agree on is that racism doesn't belong here. It's not accepted here and we denounce it if it is ever brought up. We have offered rewards, we have contacted the CBC, we have said show us the evidence. Let's prove it did or didn't happen. 15:39:31 They have refused to respond. It's a false argument. So you think this is all about politics? 15:39:38 I think this is about politics and energizing the base. You have an organization that has evolved into a leftist organization for the most part. When you look at their positions on school choice in the black community, their national policy . When you look at their support of unions on the far left with their ideas. When you look at the fact that the culture has changed in America . and shouting racism and playing the race card doesn't have what it used to. 15:40:05 But it does for a very small group. And they need to get that base together as the march to November continues it doesn't look good for the left. So let me push you a little bit. We've all seen the signs. There have been signs that compare Barak Obama to a monkey. There have been signs that have had the "N" word on them. When you see those signs how do you feel? 15:40:30 They're offensive. They don't belong there, but I'm going to use the same tact on the other side. 15:40:37 Condoleezza Rice having sex with a monkey giving birth to a monkey baby. George Bush is a Nazi. Whichever side that comes from it doesn't belong here. 15:40:47 And the people that bring that sign again, detract from what we're here to do. 15;40:51 Left . right dynamic there will always be fringe elements. Anyone who says otherwise is dishonest. 15:40:59 What the movement is about is something completely different. It represents a large broad and in according to some polls a majority of Americans and their views. And this is not based on just conservative vs. democrat. This is based on principles, on fiscal responsibility and limited government. So when you see obviously offensive signs . your conclusion is there are a few idiots out there but it doesn't represent the whole movement? 15:41:25 Absolutely. When you get a million people on the mall in Washington, DC you're going to find somebody who goes way beyond. But if the NAACP wants to condemn racism then I suggest they start with the New Black Panther Party. 15:41:39 That's video evidence. I'm going to kill cracker babies. I'm going to kill crackers. I hate crackers. Denigrating in the video I think most of America's seen a black man with a white woman. The same dynamic by the way that produced the President of the United States. 15:41:57 Why hasn't the President who had a beer summit after a Cambridge professor was arrested he said without knowing all the facts, the cops acted stupidly and had a bear summit November 2009 .where are we now with the summit again and the outcry by both the president, Mrs. Obama, and the NAACP against King Sami Shabaaz? Let me ask you about something else. While you dispute the merits of the NAACP's plan . setting that aside for a moment, what about the political reality. Do you think it will work . that they'll be able to sully the image of the Tea Party? 15:42:42 I think it will work for their base. But fundamental truths aside or rather based on the fundamental truths that Americans are looking at -- pocketbook issues, the NAACP will not win that argument. 15:42:57 They denigrated the Tea Parties in the beginning. The President said I don't even pay attention. Nancy Pelosi spoke fervently and emotionally about what she has seen. All this bad, racist element, these non-existent Americans - the few of them and yet millions have come out and spoken and you can't fail to see the truth after awhile. 15:43:21 This is a big nation and people are accepting the truth.
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TEA PARTY PROTEST AT FREEDOM PLAZA - DISC 1 OF 2
Tea Party protest: "People's Tax Revolt" at Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC. Slug: RS20 1045 TEA PARTY 84 AR: 16x9 Disc: 387 NYRS: Wash 6 11:04:09 MS of people listening on street 11:04:48 WS of crowd 11:06:09 WS of crowd during national anthem 11:07:08 CU of tea party flags 11:08:21 CU of man hold "Fair Tax" sign 11:08:36 pan across crowd 11:13:32 WS of capitol building 11:14:50 MS of crowd with signs 11:17:51 MS of crowd with signs 11:18:27 zoom on capitol building 11:18:44 MS of sign "truely energized American" 11:19:03 MS of man with sign "real hope." Dmac in: 34:00 -44:00 11:20:32 Grover Norquist 11:20:52 as you watch demo across America, those three are real community organizers. They've organized American against what they're trying to do. 11:21:26 what obama and reid and Pelosi are trying to do it use the power of Washington dc to change America to something else 11:22:37 they are going to do this 800 billion times, and we will have a big deflate, that is why they're stimulus spending didn't create jobs 11:23:16 they're not paying attention. We're all united because we're active today.b/c we all want one simple thing from our government, we would like to be left alone. 11:27:20 man in obama mask 11:28:25 MS of signs "abolish the fed" 11:29:26 MS of speaker 11:29:32 when one more than 50 percent are in the wagon instead of pulling the wagon, the wagon's going to stop 11:33:43 Neal Boortz 11:34:04 how'd you like the news stories last week, 47 percent of the people in this country don't pay any federal income taxes. 11:34:48 and you just think it's bad now, wait until the drop the (?) tax on you 11:35:34 you know when we heard that the last time? When they passed the 16th amendment 11:36:37 now you're also hearing stories lately that our economy is in a recovery.and I've already talked to some of you in the crowd 11:37:25 the media has down a really pathetic job of explaining to you the when the dems talk about raining taxes on people who make 200,000 a year. 11:38:14 then they want to raise taxes on dividends.and then god knows what sort of penalties they want to put on me and my business if I don't provide healthcare 11:39:28 are you going to tell me to get off the stage? Good 11:39:38 about 250 years ago the man for whom this city was named lead a revolutionary war.and there were people waiting to shoot them 11:40:16 there is no excuse for you not to show up on November the 2. We know what kind of change *this country needs. We need to change that brings people to Washington of people who appreciate words like liberty and freedom.American is great because of people like you 11:41:06 we have a chance to change things on November the 2 11:42:26 Amy Kremer, tea party express leader 11:42:47 I just finished up this morning at 3 am a us tour going across the country 11:44:27 you guys made that happen. 11:46:33 I read somewhere yesterday that it's time to put down our protest sign but it's time to pick up campaign signs 11:47:07 we need to educate to empower 11:47:52 you need to get involved in these campaigns that are going on.with your time and with your money. It costs money to run these campaigns.they need us. You can't sit back now 11:48:22 in nov you're going to be voting for the lesser of two evils *11:48:38 harry reid is number one on our list. Just last week we targets bart Stupak 11:49:03 we are having a great impact. If we weren't having an impact, those people on the media risers would not be here 11:51:01 Mark Williams 11:51:30 we celebrate America, we celebrate our liberty 11:52:07 Rivoli Revue music group 11:53:17 don't let them call you a racist, I don't care if my president is purple, it's the policies that I don't agree with 11:55:06 this is a bailout song. 11:55:11 sings song 11:58:31 Victoria Jackson, from SNL 12:00:21 they use profanity, did you hear the VP use the F word.I don't think George Washington would use the F word.the constitution says you can impeach a president for bridery.and I know a little something about communism because I grew up in Miami 12:02:11 obama is offering free stuff to people so they'll vote for him. And in my two year education in politics, I learned 50 percent of Americans are paying taxes, and 50 percent 12:03:16 this is America, we don't turn in our friends for what they're thinking 12:03:29 sings song 12:07:04 there's a communist living in the white house.what are we going to do about it? 12:09:35 WS of stage 12:10:17 CU of man yelling in crowd
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DC TAX DAY TEA PARTY P2
Tea Party protest: "People's Tax Revolt" at Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC. WASHINGTON (AP) - Tea party activists streamed into the capital they love to hate on Thursday, carrying signs that read "Don't Tread on Me" and "Follow the Constitution" as they marked tax day - April 15. On a sun-splashed morning and serenaded by patriotic songs, the protesters gathered as Washington's Freedom Plaza for an 11 a.m. rally. Several wore T-shirts with the date "April 15" and some carried American flags. The Tea Party Express cross-country tour was wrapping up in Washington. Local events are also planned in Oklahoma, Ohio, Wisconsin and other states. Tea party protesters opened their tour nearly three weeks ago with a Nevada rally that drew at least 9,000 and heard from one of the few politicians embraced by the conservative, anti-tax movement, Sarah Palin. Palin also starred at a tea party gathering of 5,000 on Wednesday in Boston but is not scheduled at the finale. Radio host Neal Boortz is among the listed speakers. 11:04:09 MS of people listening on street 11:04:48 WS of crowd 11:06:09 WS of crowd during national anthem 11:07:08 CU of tea party flags 11:08:21 CU of man hold "Fair Tax" sign 11:08:36 pan across crowd 11:13:32 WS of capitol building 11:14:50 MS of crowd with signs 11:17:51 MS of crowd with signs 11:18:27 zoom on capitol building 11:18:44 MS of sign "truely energized American" 11:19:03 MS of man with sign "real hope." 11:20:32 Grover Norquist 11:20:52 as you watch demo across America, those three are real community organizers. They've organized American against what they're trying to do. 11:21:26 what obama and reid and Pelosi are trying to do it use the power of Washington dc to change America to something else 11:22:37 they are going to do this 800 billion times, and we will have a big deflate, that is why they're stimulus spending didn't create jobs 11:23:16 they're not paying attention. We're all united because we're active today.b/c we all want one simple thing from our government, we would like to be left alone. 11:27:20 man in obama mask 11:28:25 MS of signs "abolish the fed" 11:29:26 MS of speaker 11:29:32 when one more than 50 percent are in the wagon instead of pulling the wagon, the wagon's going to stop 11:33:43 Neal Boortz 11:34:04 how'd you like the news stories last week, 47 percent of the people in this country don't pay any federal income taxes. 11:34:48 and you just think it's bad now, wait until the drop the (?) tax on you 11:35:34 you know when we heard that the last time? When they passed the 16th amendment 11:36:37 now you're also hearing stories lately that our economy is in a recovery.and I've already talked to some of you in the crowd 11:37:25 the media has down a really pathetic job of explaining to you the when the dems talk about raining taxes on people who make 200,000 a year. 11:38:14 then they want to raise taxes on dividends.and then god knows what sort of penalties they want to put on me and my business if I don't provide healthcare 11:39:28 are you going to tell me to get off the stage? Good 11:39:38 about 250 years ago the man for whom this city was named lead a revolutionary war.and there were people waiting to shoot them 11:40:16 there is no excuse for you not to show up on November the 2. We know what kind of change *this country needs. We need to change that brings people to Washington of people who appreciate words like liberty and freedom.American is great because of people like you 11:41:06 we have a chance to change things on November the 2 11:42:26 Amy Kremer, tea party express leader 11:42:47 I just finished up this morning at 3 am a us tour going across the country 11:44:27 you guys made that happen. 11:46:33 I read somewhere yesterday that it's time to put down our protest sign but it's time to pick up campaign signs 11:47:07 we need to educate to empower 11:47:52 you need to get involved in these campaigns that are going on.with your time and with your money. It costs money to run these campaigns.they need us. You can't sit back now 11:48:22 in nov you're going to be voting for the lesser of two evils *11:48:38 harry reid is number one on our list. Just last week we targets bart Stupak 11:49:03 we are having a great impact. If we weren't having an impact, those people on the media risers would not be here 11:51:01 Mark Williams 11:51:30 we celebrate America, we celebrate our liberty 11:52:07 Rivoli Revue music group 11:53:17 don't let them call you a racist, I don't care if my president is purple, it's the policies that I don't agree with 11:55:06 this is a bailout song. 11:55:11 sings song 11:58:31 Victoria Jackson, from SNL 12:00:21 they use profanity, did you hear the VP use the F word.I don't think George Washington would use the F word.the constitution says you can impeach a president for bridery.and I know a little something about communism because I grew up in Miami 12:02:11 obama is offering free stuff to people so they'll vote for him. And in my two year education in politics, I learned 50 percent of Americans are paying taxes, and 50 percent 12:03:16 this is America, we don't turn in our friends for what they're thinking 12:03:29 sings song 12:07:04 there's a communist living in the white house.what are we going to do about it? 12:09:35 WS of stage 12:10:17 CU of man yelling in crowd 12:24:14 and then we understood what was going on, it was a government take over. 12:25:06 I will tell you that president obama voted to the left of Bernie sanders when he was in the senate.I'm not going to add to that dialogue anymore. But I can tell you, we can get out liberty back *NEW DISC* Disc: 437 12:27:04 rep. jack kingston (savannah ga) (?) 12:28:36 what usually happens the day after the rally leaves.there's trash.that's never the case with the tea party movement 12:30:25 for those of you who do it yourself, god bless you.we need tax simplification 12:32:26 that's why you're here today, because you've had enough. We need to reduce spending 12:33:48 Michelle Bachmann 12:34:13 isn't it interesting how freedom is so attractive.that's because you get it and you're smart enough to get off your couch and do something about it 12:34:33 this November let's take back our country. How many of you think we're going to do it 12:34:58 barack obama is a one term president 12:35:08 we aren't just taking anybody to Washington this November, we're taking constitutional conservatives 12:35:34 it is so unbelievable to all of us as we watched what happened over the last 8 months. Our private economy has been private. But what have we seen over the past 18 months. 12:37:06 and then there was taking over the student loan industry, and healthcare 12:37:38 and for some reason, beyond me, these people who are running Washington dc.doesn't seem to bother them, it's not enough for president obama 12:40:27 I just found out this morning that I'm the target of an extremist group. 12:41:15 this far and no more 12:41:19 it's all about November 12:41:25 God bless you and god bless the united states of America 12:42:32 rep. john linder 12:42:57 and you've heard the president say as recently as a few weeks ago that the new stimulus bill was 50 percent tax cuts 12:44:57 MS of sign "it's not about his race" sign 12:46:53 does anyone here remember Ronald Reagan 12:48:01 ordinary people do extraordinary things, and if you can continue this charge. 12:50:02 Dick Armey 12:52:36 now I live by an ocean.and I can't steal your money 12:53:29 I was on a tv show one night 12:54:05 I have been warning us for years.they're going to give us the sales tax, for the bat tax
BACHMANN AND GOP PRESSER ON IRS TARGETING TEA PARTY
EXT BROLL MICHELLE BACHMANN AND GOP MEMBERS PRESSER ON IRS TARGETING TEA PARTY SCANDAL Thursday, May 16, 2013 TRANSCRIPT: Press Conference on the IRS Targeting Tea Party Groups with Rep. Michele Bachmann, Sens. Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and others DC SLUG: 0930 BACHMANN AVAIL RS5 79 AR: 16X9 DISC# 914 NYRS: 5114 09:28:32 REPRESENTATIVE MICHELE BACHMANN (R-MN): Thank you, everyone, for being here, by the way. Thank you, everyone, for being here. My name is Michele Bachmann. I'm a member of Congress from Minnesota's 6th Congressional District. I'm also the chairman of the Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives and a former federal tax litigation attorney for the IRS as well as the author of the bill to repeal "Obamacare." This is a momentous day. One week ago today we held hearings in the House of Representatives on Benghazi. Questions were asked one week ago today: Were decisions made about rescuing Americans in Benghazi based upon political considerations? One week ago tomorrow we found out devastating information again, that the IRS apparently used, for political purposes, information about people's beliefs, whether it is -- whether they were religious beliefs or political beliefs, potentially to deny people their tax status if they tended to have beliefs that were against this administration. And then we learned subsequently that applications were approved if they had beliefs in line with this administration. Subsequent to the original story, we had an admission from the IRS that they in fact made these decisions. 09:29:42 This is extremely troubling because the axiom is the power to tax is the power to destroy. And now with the implementation of "Obamacare" at hand and knowing that it is the IRS, the Internal Revenue Service, that will be the enforcing mechanism for this new entitlement program of "Obamacare," it's very important to ask, and now it is reasonable to ask, could there potentially be political implications regarding health care, access to health care, denial of health care -- will that happen based upon a person's political beliefs or their religiously held beliefs? These questions would have been considered out of bounds a week ago. Today these questions are considered more than reasonable and more than fair for the American people. 09:30:33 What you will hear today are shocking stories of common people from across United States who wanted to be able to exercise their First Amendment free speech rights as American citizens, but they were denied those rights. Why? Because their tax status was denied in order to be able to speak out as an organization. We've collected an impressive group of individuals that have very important things to say to you today. We have members of the United States Senate, members of the House of Representatives. And -- but most importantly, we will hear from those people who were victimized by this administration and this administration's policies. And first I would like to ask to come to the microphone Leader Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader of the United States Senate. Thank you, Mr. Leader. (Applause.) 09:31:22 SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): Well, thank you very much, Michele. As -- Eric Wilson from Kentucky is here, and I first heard about this issue from him in the summer of 2012 and in fact made a speech about the threat of the federal government using the apparatus of the federal government to quiet the voices of critics. At the time, The Washington Post and others said it was just a red herring, and now we know it really happened. These horror stories of the government attempting to quiet the voices of critics is apparently rather rampant. And it's interesting to note that the IRS apparently even gave to a left-wing group, ProPublica, information on one of the conservative groups before their tax status had even been established. 09:32:16 This is runaway government at its worst. Who knows who they'll target next. There is going to be a complete and thorough investigation of this in Congress, not only who above may have known about it but what the rank and file believed was their mission. This -- the truth will come out. It always does. It can come out sooner or later, but I guarantee you, we'll find out everything that happened. Thank you so much for the opportunity to be here. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Leader. (Applause.) Next, we have Senator Rand Paul, also from Kentucky. Senator Paul. 09:32:59 SENATOR RAND PAUL (R-KY): There is something profoundly un- American about targeting your political opponents. Whether you're a Republican or a Democrat or an independent in this country, to take the abuse of a $3.8 trillion government, the power of that government, and to use it it stifle opposition is profoundly un-American. I'm a physician. I'm quite worried about the privacy of medical records. I'm quite worried that your medical records now will be evaluated by the IRS that seems to have the ability and seems to have the penchant to use political persuasion and political -- to search out political opponents. So I'm very concerned about this. Someone needs to be held responsible. Someone needs to be imprisoned. Someone needs to be prosecuted. The resignation is a step in the right direction, but we need to find out who wrote this policy, who approved this policy, and they need to be held accountable. 09:33:59 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Senator. And that goes all the way to the White House. We need to know what the White House knew and when they knew it. And Senator Paul is also the chair of the Tea Party Caucus in the United States Senate; I neglected to mention that. We have with us also Senator Mike Lee from Utah. 09:34:13 SENATOR MIKE LEE (R-UT): These three events that have gotten so much attention over the last few days -- IRS, AP, Benghazi -- tend to confirm a lot of our worst fears about our government. They tend to tell us what we don't want to believe but that sometimes might be true, that your government's targeting you, that your government's spying on you and that your government is lying to you. We need to remember that this isn't just an act of a Democratic administration attacking Republicans. It's much, much more than that. This is an act of a political ruling class in Washington, regardless of political affiliation, targeting the American people. You see, we have to remember that when the federal government gets too big, it becomes unmanageable. In this respect, I agree wholeheartedly with what David Axelrod said yesterday. I don't think I've ever uttered those words before. (Laughter.) He said that the federal government's simply too vast for the president of the United States to control, to manage, to supervise appropriately. And he's right. 09:35:31 No one can manage something this big. And therein lies the problem. Our federal government, while created for purposes that James Madison described as few and defined, has become a government without limit, without end. No one can manage a $4 trillion annual government. No one, certainly, can manage a $5 trillion government. We don't want it to become that. We need to roll it back. We need to return it to a simpler, more manageable government because that's the only way that we're ever going to prevent things like this from happening. When it gets too big, it gets too expensive. And when that happens, nobody's going to be able to manage the whole thing effectively. And when that happens, people are going to be targeted. They'll be targeted unfairly. We need to simplify our laws and we need to downsize our federal government. Thank you. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Senator Lee. A man who has been fearless in asking the tough questions in the last few months, of Texas, Senator Ted Cruz. (Applause.) 09:36:18 SENATOR TED CRUZ (R-TX): Thank you very much. I'd like to begin by thanking Michele for organizing this, thanking our friends from the House for your leadership on this very important issue, and thanking the men and women from across the country who have come up here to join us today, including a number of Texans, my friends Katrina Pierson, Toby Walker, who have devoted thousands of hours to their lives to trying to turn this country around. You know, Thomas Jefferson told us, when government fears the citizens, there is liberty, but when citizens fear the government, there is tyranny. The last couple of weeks, we've had a series of disturbing revelations, all of which share common elements, between Benghazi, the IRS and the HHS Secretary pressuring private companies to support political efforts to support "Obama care." The unifying themes in those patterns are, number one, an arrogance and view of government -- the machinery of government as a tool for partisan ends, a tool to be put in place in partisan politics to punish your political enemies, and number two, a really dismaying willingness to mislead and to deceive the American people. 09:27:32 And I think the American people have every right to expect better. The men and women who are here today are here because they are working to try to hold their elected officials accountable -- to hold us accountable. And that is exactly their prerogative, protected in the Constitution, protected in the Bill of Rights, to hold every one of us accountable. And the idea that the federal government and the IRS in particular would be targeting citizens, and in particular, looking, if they had the temerity to actually speak out, exercise their Constitutional rights to speak the truth, they would be subjected to special harassment, special scrutiny, special targeting. Seems to me there are great many questions that need to be asked, including who knew about this, who didn't act to stop it, whose favor was being curried doing this. One of the most disturbing stories I've read on the IRS was that confidential taxpayer records were handed over to the co-chairman of President Obama's presidential campaign in the middle of the campaign. If the federal government is being made to behave as if it is an arm of a political partisan campaign apparatus, we are losing the constraints that the Constitution is meant to put on our government, and I'm so thankful to the citizens who are here today to hold all of us accountable. 09:38:55 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Ted. Thank you. (Applause.) We also have with us a significant number of members of the United States Congress: Congressman Joe Barton of Texas; Congressman Diane Black of the state of Tennessee; we have Congressman Jim Bridenstine; we have Congressman Paul Broun, from Georgia; Congressman John Fleming, from Louisiana; Congressman Bill Flores, from Texas; Congressman Louie Gohmert, also from Texas; Congressman Tim Huelskamp, from Kansas; Congressman Randy Hultgren; we have Congressman David Joyce; Congressman Steve King of Iowa; Congressman Jack Kingston of Georgia; Congressman Doug Lamborn, from Colorado; Congressman James Lankford, from Oklahoma; Congressman Mick Mulvaney, from South Carolina; Congressman Ted Poe, from Texas; Congressman Matt Salmon, as well as Congressman Tim Walberg, from Michigan, and Congressman Jeff Duncan, from South Carolina, among others. Now we'd like to present to you real people who have been adversely affected by the actions and decisions by the IRS and who knows who else who made these decisions to attack the liberties of the American people. First we'll hear from Dianne Belsom, who's from Laurens County Tea Party. Dianne. 09:40:12 DIANNE BELSOM: Hi. I'm Dianne Belsom, representing Laurens County Tea Party. And our group filed for 501(c)(4) status with the IRS in June of 2010. And we heard nothing for over two years, and then right before the election, we received a communication from the IRS requesting lengthy amounts of information. And at that point I contacted the ACLJ, who's been representing other tea party groups, because we all knew this was a pattern. We were being targeted. And they represented us. And we complied to the best as we could with the questions the first time. We sent that in in January. They wanted more information. We sent even more things in. That ended, like, March 5th. And we still have not received any word from the IRS. So almost three years later, our -- we are still in the dark as to whether we're getting approved for 501(c)(4) status. And you know, we live in a free republic. At least, I thought we did. This more smacks of a totalitarian system. And when you think about "Obamacare" being implemented and 16,000 more people added to the IRS, are they going to be next determining who can get health care based on your political views? So I have a very simple solution to this. Let's abolish the IRS and institute something like a fair tax, which'll make things much simpler and remove this problem. And let's repeal "Obamacare." Thank you. (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Dianne. Also a tea party leader from across the United States who's been adversely affected, from the Ohio Liberty Coalition, Mr. Tom Zawistowski. Thank you, Tom. 09:41:50 TOM ZAWISTOWSKI: Thank you, Michele. We are here today, you know, not to represent ourselves or even to represent the millions of tea party people from around this nation. We're here today to represent all the American people, who want what we all want, and that's our constitutional rights, who want the freedom of speech, freedom of assembly that we are entitled to under our Constitution. And this IRS targeting is evidence that we were being denied that opportunity. And while we are grateful for our representatives for taking this on and trying to find the truth about this, we're not here to speculate about how far this goes. The wheels of justice are turning, and they will find that out. But what we're here to do is put, you know, real faces to the stories. We're here to, you know, give you Marion Bower (s) from Fremont (sp), who was asked what books they read and wanted a book report by the IRS. We're here to have you meet George Brennaman (sp) from the Cincinnati area, who's a Cincinnati tea party leader, whose wife and he were personally audited because, the IRS said, they were members of the tea party. 09:42:47 This is an out-of-control government. And as one of the senators said, you know, the whole problem is too much government; you know, government that's too large. But the real heroes, you know, real heroes are the moms and pops and aunts and uncles and the people around this country who are members of the tea party movement who stood up and who didn't need to be told, you know, what was right or wrong. You know, the people -- we wrote this letter February 16th and said we will not comply, because we know what's right and wrong. And that's what the story is. And I ask people in American public to go to your local tea party website and take another look at the tea party because we're standing up for the rights of everyone. And I thank the ACLJ for representing us, because I don't think we would have got here if it wasn't for them. I thank the Tea Party Patriots and Freedom Works for helping to make it possible to bring these people here. And we look forward to meeting you. Thank you very much. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Tom. And the ACLJ is the American Center for Law and Justice. We have with us next Jenny Beth Martin, who is the head of the Tea Party Patriots. 09:43:49 JENNY BETH MARTIN (Tea Party Patriots): The IRS veneer of impartiality is shattered, and the IRS must be audited. Tea Party Patriots insist on an independent, transparent, outside and thorough investigation because the IRS cannot be trusted to self-police. And the Justice Department is suffering from extreme lack of credibility at this moment. Tea Party groups have been waiting for years for the IRS to treat us fairly and equally. Instead, they have singled us out and discriminated and persecuted us. Government agents have used the IRS as a weapon to silence speech, harass innocent Americans and perhaps sway elections. 09:44:40 It took over a year to get answers from the Inspector General's investigation, which was sparked when Landmark Legal Foundation asked for questions -- asked questions in March of 2012. The answers in this week's report only serve to raise even more questions. For instance, who in the IRS, began targeting groups? Why were we targeted, but groups with "progress" in their name were not? We still do not have answers to the most basic questions. All Tea Party groups -- all Tea Party Patriot groups have seen from the IRS for the last year and a half, are corrosive and deceitful cover- ups and contradictions. In the past week, those lies are coming out for the media and the American public to see as well. 09:45:31 The damage the IRS has caused may be immeasurable. There are concrete monetary damages, there are individuals like Justin Binik- Thomas, who the IRS targeted by name. There are groups of volunteers who gave up -- gave up collectively petitioning their government, and others who never even attempted to apply for tax-exempt status because they saw what other citizens were enduring. There are groups like Tea Party Patriots who, to this day, the IRS is still stringing along. How do we measure the impact of a public who is rapidly losing faith in the IRS, in its ability to impartially apply the law in a fair and equal manner to all citizens? It is easy to dismiss theoretical faceless groups. The pain and suffering that a government inflicted upon our fellow citizens is real and profound. These are Americans who simply care enough about our country to become actively engaged in a representative democracy. 09:46:34 Tea Party Patriots brought as many of these groups to D.C. as time would allow. Today we stand with patriots like Joe Dugan and Gerri McDaniel from Myrtle Beach Tea Party. They believe they lost a hundred members as a result of the overbearing nature of the of the IRS's inquisition, and they still have not received word from the IRS. Julia Hodges from the Mississippi Tea Party withdrew their group's application after months of delay tactics designed to intimidate Americans. The IRS questioned Marion Bower and her group, American Patriots Against Government Excess, asking for a list of every book their group had read and a book report on each book. A government this intrusive is clearly excessive. 09:47:22 We also join all those across the country who have felt abused and threatened by the IRS. Tea Party Patriots has not backed down, and we will keep fighting. If you want to start a tea party group, sign up with Tea Party Patriots and we will help you. We will not allow the IRS or any branch of the government or any government agency to take away our First Amendment rights or any of our constitutional rights. The IRS's thuggish, discriminatory, abusive schemes and tactics perfectly illustrate why we must have a government that is constitutionally limited, meaning we must have a government small enough to manage and execute its duties competently and with integrity and, most importantly, a government we, the people, can trust. That's how a constitutionally limited government operates, and that's what Tea Party Patriots have fought for over the last four years. 09:48:27 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Jenny Beth. (Applause.) The tea party -- the tea party movement has been falsely aligned (sic) from its inception because it was feared. It was feared because it was an organic, spontaneous uprising against big government, against the bailouts, against the trillion-dollar stimulus and also against "Obamacare" and Dodd-Frank. This was a spontaneous movement and one that the administration obviously wanted to silence, but it's also to -- important to know what the tea party is. They stand for three very simple American concepts. And they are these. Number one, we believe that the American people are taxed enough already. We believe that government should not spend more money that it takes in. And number three, we believe that the American government should follow the Constitution of the United States. That's what the tea party believes. Next we'll be hearing from Amy Kremer from the Tea Party Express. Is Amy Kremer here? MR. : (Off mic.) REP. BACHMANN: Pardon me? MS. : (Off mic.) REP. BACHMANN: Jordan Sekulow from the American Center of Law and Justice. They've been referenced several times already by individuals. Mr. Sekulow 09:49:28 JORDAN SEKULOW: Thank you, Congresswoman. And at first I want to say thank you to Congresswoman Bachmann, the members of the Senate and the House that are here today standing with people like Tom (sp), one of our clients, who got approved by the IRS in January of 2013, a little bit after the election, right, when he applied in 2010, and Dianne, who is still waiting. We are now -- and we have announced over -- about 16 of our clients out of the 27 we have represented since March of 2012 are here with us today. We have 17 clients ready to sue the IRS and bring legal action, which, regardless, if they are approved by Friday -- we've set a noon deadline for approval for our 10 remaining clients. Even if that deadline is met for them, we've got clients were approved, like Tom (sp) and others, that were not able -- they suffered damages. They lost membership and donations. They missed the election cycle. They missed key moments. They were not able to bring speakers in. So the IRS -- this is far from over, even if they do approve the remaining groups. Notice in that inspector general's report that zero groups have been denied, zero groups were denied that fell into this category, but 28 withdrew. We've also got some of our clients who withdrew because they just were sick and tired of fighting with the IRS, and basically, their organization was destroyed through this process who are now ready to start fighting again. So this is far from over. And for any of the organizations out there, if they are interested in taking legal action here, whether they were approved late or they have not been approved, go to aclj.org, give us a call, contact us, send us an email. We represent you. We don't charge for our services. 09:51:11 And I have to think, finally, all of the tea party leaders, people like Diane (sp) and Tom (sp) and the groups we represent -- because without them, without our 27 clients and the other groups that spoke out, do you think we would have figured out that this was happening a year ago? If they didn't fight back, they would have withdrawn. Most people would have gotten these questions from the IRS and said, thank you very much, I'm not -- I'm not even dealing with this membership list, what books are you reading, are you thinking about maybe running for public office one day. This is not only unconstitutional. It's illegal. The Department of Justice and our government will have -- and our members of Congress can find out if it's criminal. But we're going to handle the civil side of that as well. We have clients who are damaged, whether they got approved two or -- two and -- 2 1/2 years later or they're still waiting today -- one that applied at the end of 2009 that has not yet been approved. Thank you very much to our clients who are brave to take on the IRS. And again, thank you, Congresswoman. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Jordan. We appreciate your presence. (Applause.) We also have, from the TheTeaParty.net, another national Tea Party organization, Mr. Todd Cefaratti. 09:52:16 TODD CEFARATTI: Good morning, everyone. My name's Todd Cefaratti; I'm the founder of TheTeaParty.net. We're one of the largest national Tea Party organizations in the country, with about 3 million members. First of all, I'd like to thank the press for being here, welcoming you back from your four-and-a-half year vacation in covering events like this. The IRS event -- the scandal is a pattern, actually. It's not an isolated event. This is why we started Tea Party organizations over three years ago. We've seen these patterns of government tyranny happening, and this is just the house of cards beginning to fall apart. You've seen it, as you know, in the press, also, with the seizing of the phone records. This is not a left or a right issue. It's an American issue, OK? TheTeaParty.net was actually one of those organizations targeted. We were targeted. And we applied for a 501(c)(4) over three years ago, and to date, have not received the status. We've had three rounds of questions -- the first round was acceptable -- a normal vetting process, but the questions got longer and more intrusive into our over 3 million members. They wanted things like our donor lists, our private emails for the last three years, our Facebook communications -- Twitter communications. We have over 2 million people on Facebook; this is private information. It has to make a chill go down your spine. Why would the government want this personal information on American citizens? And we're not about to give that information to them. It's not required for a 501(c)(4), and we're not going to provide it. And again, getting back to the government seizing the press records, I would just like to be the first one to welcome the press as part of the Tea Party movement. So welcome. (Laughter.) (Applause.) REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Todd, for your remarks. We have next, from FreedomWorks, Mr. Adam Brandon. 09:54:24 ADAM BRANDON (FreedomWorks): Good morning, everyone. On my way over here this morning, two different reporters asked me what are the implications for 2014. And one thing I don't want -- I don't want anything to misunderstand this. This is not a short-term political issue. This is a civil rights issue. This is a long-term issue that is going to have an impact far beyond just the next midterm election. I'm often asked where is the tea party movement, what's going on with the tea party movement. But one thing you'll see that we've been trying to do is not just be a protest movement on the street. As a group, we've been trying to organize, get together in our community. And that's why having the legal status that we've been asking for from the IRS is so important. And the fact that the government's going in there messing around with it, it's more like a Third World junta than a constitutional republic. So we're very concerned, as you can see by the crowd that's standing here today, but this is not a short-term, you know, couple weeks from now this issue is going to be gone away. Expect to be hearing a lot more about this as time goes on. I mean, I'm personally curious, is this coming from the White House, is this coming from some agency, or is this just individual -- you know, people in the bureaucracy, just bureaucracy on spring break gone wild? And it's probably going to take a couple years for us to figure this out. And everyone that's standing behind me, we're going to be there. Thanks very much for -- 09:55:48 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. As someone who formerly worked for the IRS, I can tell you this is the largest ramp-up and expansion both of employees but also on an area of jurisdiction on one of the largest new entitlement programs that the American people have seen in decades. That's why it is crucial that we ask these questions now, when the most sensitive personal intimate information, our health care information, will be all centralled (ph) -- centralized in a national federal database. Who will have access to that database, for what purpose? Will our most personal sensitive information be used to deny health care or to delay access to health care? Or could it be possible that our sensitive information could be used to blackmail Americans or even potentially to embarrass Americans, who -- again, this question would have been considered unreasonable and out of bounds a week ago. Today this question is highly relevant. We also have Niger Innis from the TeaParty.net with us today. 09:56:49 NIGER INNIS: I want to thank the congresswoman for putting together an extraordinary press conference today. I'm Niger Innis with the TeaParty.net, chief strategist. And you know, a lot of folk have made comparisons to this crisis and Watergate. But there's a fundamental difference. And that fundamental difference is -- it's all of you. See, 40 years ago the press actually had an adversarial relationship with the chief executive, Dick Nixon. Today it is quite different. Some might say that it's casual, cordial, you know, folk coming in from the Obama administration into the media, people coming in from the media to the Obama administration. Some might say that it's incestuous. But what is perhaps most disgusting is the degree to which that many of you in the establishment media have taken your marching orders from the DNC and from other liberal operatives and -- reference to the tea party. After the tea party revolution of 2010, many of you consumed and then projected some of the most vile, unfair things about the tea party, that it's racist, which I find particularly ironic -- (laughter) -- that it's sexist, that it's violent -- disgraceful. He had no grounds for perpetuating this mythology about the tea party. So I want all of you to ask the question to yourselves: What did you do to help create this environment where the IRS, an agent of government, can operate with such impunity? We don't ask -- (applause) -- we don't ask for special treatment. We only ask for decency and fairness. Thank you. Thank you, Congressman. (Applause.) 09:58:29 REP. BACHMANN: Thank you, Niger. That was excellent. I appreciate it. We have a number of other leader from tea party organizations from across the United States -- from California, from Mississippi, from Tennessee, from Oklahoma. We have them all across the United States that are here and present. Again, we have many members of Congress that are standing behind. They could tell you the stories that they have heard. Diane Black has had tea party organizations in Tennessee that have been adversely affected. We have also from Georgia -- Paul Broun is here from the state of Georgia -- tea party organizations that have been adversely affected from the state of Texas. We have Representative Louie Gohmert, Bill Flores. We have a number of members of Congress, all of whom are available to speak with the press afterwards. We have so many people here with so many stories. We could be here for a long time. But what we'd like to do is open up and take a few questions. But again, we want to make it very clear: Our members of Congress are here and available to answer your questions, as well as the leadership from tea party organizations from across the United States. I encourage you to speak directly and personally with our members of Congress and with the tea party organizations. They have a lot of shocking details and stories to share with you. And with that, I'd like to open up your -- 09:59:35 REPRESENTATIVE LOUIE GOHMERT (R-TX): Michele, I got a question. Do you think the problem's fixed since the president let somebody go that came on board about six months ago? 09:59:45 REP. BACHMANN: Well, my colleague Representative Louie Gohmert has just joined your ranks now. He's a part of the media. He's asking some of the questions. (Laughter.) Louie, you're asking a great question. He asked if -- yesterday the president engaged in Damage Control 101. He wanted to stop the story because the president's had a no-good, very bad week this last week. And so what we saw again is one more canard coming out of the White House where they said that they were asking for the resignation -- and it looked like this was going to be a big shakedown -- by taking down the head, Mr. Steven Miller, of the IRS, when we find out subsequently that Mr. Miller was scheduled to resign anyway and leave the IRS as of the early part of June. Again, the American people have not been told the truth. And what we need to know is what does the White House know and when did they know it. So with that, we'll open up to your questions. Q: (Off mic) -- legislation being planned to address -- (off mic)? 10:00:42 REP. BACHMANN: Right now -- and the question is regarding legislation -- right now in the immediate we will have hearings, and various committee chairs have already indicated that -- Darrell Issa in the House of Representative, as well as Dave Camp, the chair of Ways and Means. But there is legislation that is being promoted. Mike Turner of Ohio has already indicated that he wants to put forward legislation with criminal penalties for individuals within the IRS who misused tax data. I can tell you, as a former tax litigation attorney, we -- because of the very sensitive nature and the understanding from the common-sense point of view that it is wrong for the IRS to misuse personal tax data, we had very, very strict requirements that we could not act without the area of our jurisdiction. We had very thick manuals for standard operating procedures. We had to check every box. Our work product -- it didn't matter if you were an attorney, if you were in appeals, if you were in collection or if you were writing the statutory notices of deficiency, it didn't matter; your work product was checked by your supervisor, and you could not act beyond your jurisdiction. So -- Q: Michele, do you -- (off mic) -- believe that the administration knew about the targeting? 10:01:55 REP. BACHMANN: The question was asked if we have any reason to believe that the administration knew about this targeting. This is the question that the American people want to know. This is what all of the tea party leaders behind me want to know, as well as members of Congress: What was it that the White House knew? Were they involved? Did they know? Were they involved in the directives? That's why there will be a request for emails from the president of the United States. And what the president needs to say is that he and his administration will be fully cooperative with the United States Congress so that we can restore the American people's trust and the credibility of the IRS. Q: Congresswoman, earlier this week we've heard the word "impeachment" tossed around up here on Capitol Hill. Is that something that should be considered? Do some of you feel like that -- that some of that should be considered in this case? 10:02:41 REP. BACHMANN: I'll let anyone come to the microphone who'd like to answer that, but I will tell you, as I have been home in my district in the 6th district of Minnesota, there isn't a weekend that hasn't gone by that someone says to me, Michele, what in the world are you all waiting for in Congress? Why aren't you impeaching the president? He's been making unconstitutional actions since he came into office. So I will tell you what I'm hearing from people back home, but I'll -- is there anyone here that would like to address that? Has anyone heard something? Jenny Beth? 10:03:12 MS. MARTIN: Right now, what we're saying is, we want to -- we want to know -- that's why we need an investigation. It's why we need to know who started this and why and when and if -- is it only contained to the IRS, or does it go further? REP. BACHMANN: We also don't want to jump to conclusions. We want to go where the facts lead us, and we aren't interested in creating our own facts, contrary to some of our federal agencies. So is there anyone else -- Q: Congresswoman, when you talk about why Tea Party groups want government recognition, especially as nonprofits, considering that, by all appearances, they're pretty political -- REP. BACHMANN: Let's have some Tea Party organizations answer that question. MS. : We have an attorney here. (Cross talk.) OK, let's have -- Jordan -- Alan? We're going to hear from Alan, an attorney who is going to answer that question. Thank you, Alan; go ahead. ALAN DYE: Thank you. I'm Alan Dye. What's the question again? Why -- Q: His question was, why do Tea Party groups want political -- any kind of recognition from the government, particularly tax exempt status, when they seem to be largely political? 10:04:05 MR. DYE: I think you're making an assumption that's not correct. Q: OK -- (inaudible) -- MR. DYE: The organizations -- the organizations vary and most of them are not entirely political. Most of them are interested in legislation and public policy, which is not politics and which is permitted for (c)4 organizations. REP. BACHMANN: Go ahead, Tom. Thank you, that's a great answer. 10:04:26 MR. ZAWISTOWSKI: This is -- this is really an important point for all the media and all the American public to understand. We did not seek 501(c)4 status. We are businessmen, we're farmers, we're teachers, we're machinists, and we just were trying to do the prudent thing to run our Tea Parties. And when we start taking bus trips to Washington, D.C., you have to have money and you have to handle that money. You have to have insurance. You have to take care of your business. So, we did the prudent thing. We thought we were going to be corporations. But in a pre-Citizens United world, we learned that you couldn't be a corporation because your corporation didn't have the ability to do these type of things. It was considered political taking a bus trip. We did not seek 501(c)4 status. What happened was when we started to say, what do we do, the IRS told us we must seek it. And they told us we must seek tax exemption. We did not want that. We're happy to pay our taxes. The Tea Party people -- we pay our taxes, OK. And just quickly, I'm -- REP. BACHMANN: Jordan Sekulow from American Center of Law and Justice. 10:05:20 MR. DYE: I would add this. All of our clients here, they voluntarily subjected themselves -- voluntarily subjected themselves to government oversight. They're not rogue. These were individuals who said, we are -- we want to do the right thing -- as Tom was just talking about -- we are subjecting ourselves to voluntarily -- not just government oversight one time but for the rest of our existence; our records, our 990s that we're have to file, our forms that we'll have to file. So, these were individuals not trying to flout the law and skirt the law but the opposite: to do the right thing, to say "here I am, government, here's what we're doing, here's the money we're spending, and here's what we're -- here's how we're using it." And so that is the key. They were submitting themselves to the IRS. It was the IRS who unconstitutionally and illegally targeted them. This is -- this is harassment at a level that is certainly a civil suit-worthy and possibly criminal. And I want everybody in the media to understand that, OK? It's -- it is at least the civil suit. They're going to be filed next week, even for groups that got approved, like Tom's (sp), who got approved after the election. But the criminal investigation is real and serious. And that is why I think you've seen -- that's not just tea party members and groups speaking out. It's the whole country that's outraged. REP. BACHMANN: We have Mr. Joe Dugan of South Carolina, who would also like to address that answer. 10:06:39 JOE DUGAN: I'm chairman of the board of the Myrtle Beach Tea Party in South Carolina. And our motto is to educate, inspire and empower the American people and tell them about what is happening to their country so that they can make the judgment, when it comes to Election Day, whether they -- which direction they want the future of our country to go into and how -- what opportunities their grandchildren and future generations can have. We are trying to put forth the principles of the United States Constitution, on which this country was founded and became the most successful country and envy of the world in the history of mankind. And our political activities are severely limited under the guidelines of a 501(c)(4), and we adhere to those guidelines. And yet we still received an egregious eight-page letter from the IRS asking for every minutiae of detail, turning over our donors' names, sponsors' names. Our funding has dried up because of this. Our membership has been hurt because the IRS has asked for the names of every member and every volunteer, and it's just absolutely outrageous. REP. BACHMANN: We have Amy Kremer, who's also a national tea party leader from the Tea Party Express, and she also wanted to be able to weigh in on this important issue this morning. Amy Kremer. 10:08:10 AMY KREMER: Thank you, Congresswoman Bachmann. And thanks to all the members and all the activists that are here today. This is an extremely important issue that obviously, I think we're just scratching the surface. We've been focused on it for quite some time. Last February I reached out to the speaker's office and to the Senate because it was obviously a targeted efforts to these grass- roots groups that were popping up across the country. And so I'm glad that it's finally coming to light, and I think that we all need to band together and not let this be brushed under the rug because this is a violation of our First Amendment rights, and that's a fundamental part of being an American. And this government, they work for us. We hire them. And this is an absolute abuse of power, and it's concerning that when the IRS is abusing their power and they're going to be the ones to implement "Obamacare," they've already got a class action lawsuit against them for medical records out in California, accessing private medical records -- I mean, what's going to happen to our medical records when they are implementing "Obamacare"? This is not acceptable, and we need to stand strong on this. And I thank you for holding this today and including me. REP. BACHMANN: Thank you. And that's why -- MR. : (Off mic.) Q: Have any tea party groups been denied status, and do you have a number on that? 10:09:23 REP. GOHMERT: There are a bunch who have been -- have not been granted. REP. BACHMANN: This is Louie Gohmert of Texas. REP. GOHMERT: -- has not been granted. Some have withdrawn. Some are still waiting. I found out about a new one in Florida just awhile ago. They're not here. They thought they were suffering in silence. But I want to go back to this question here about, you know, why were you seeking legal status. If you heard what has happened, you have a government that is forcing people to get a legal status in order to just come up here and have their voices heard. And then once they force you into this funnel of having to have legal status, then they use that to intimidate and abuse to prevent opposite views from being heard. This is a government gone -- run amok. And if the AP story has taught anything, it should be to the media that when there is a tyrannical despot, the media will be one of the early victims. You will be used as helpful savants for a while, and then, when you are no longer needed, you'll be pressured and put out of business as well. This is a very, very dangerous time. And it's an interesting question: Why would you want legal status, because this is the way a tyrannical government comes into being and perpetuates itself. 10:10:44 REP. BACHMANN: And again, I just want to remind that later today, we'll be voting in the House of Representatives to repeal "Obamacare." (Applause.) We have even more impetus than ever to repeal "Obamacare." I vote -- many people have said this issue was dead. Many people have said that "Obamacare" is here to stay. We are here as the people's representatives, as real people from across the United States, to say this issue is now revived. It is back on the table. We fully believe that the American people will demand -- because what they've seen with the abuse of power from this administration, the IRS, a full-scale repeal of "Obamacare," not just in the House of Representative but also in the United States Congress, we believe that the heat will become so hot that even the president of the United States will be forced to repudiate his signature legislation. We thank you for being here today. We make available to you all of the members of the United States Congress who have so much to say on this issue. We have over 20 real tea party organizations who have been hurt and abused. They're up here, and we encourage you to take advantage of the people to speak to them directly on this story. And we thank you for coming today. News Conference on Conservative Groups and the IRS Republican House members and Senators as well as representatives of Tea Party groups from around the country hold a news conference on the IRS targeting of conservative groups.
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