SENATE ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE HEARING ON JAPAN 1500
Senate environment committee hearing on the nuclear emergency in Japan and implications for the U.S. with Lisa P. Jackson of the EPA and Gregory Jaczko the chair of the NRC and others
15:00:00 SYSTEM OF SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING SO PEOPLE ARE
15:00:02 COMFORTABLE WITH WHATEVER RISKS THEY ARE.
15:00:04 AND AS WE LOOK AT OUR OWN HISTORY, ACTUALLY, WE'VE DONE A
15:00:08 FAIR JOB OF THAT. AT THREE-MILE ISLAND SPAWNED
15:00:14 SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE INSTITUTE FOR NUCLEAR POWER
15:00:17 OPERATIONS WHICH HAVE IMPROVED SAFETY.
15:00:20 THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS TO KNOW THAT WHILE THREE-MILE
15:00:23 ISLAND WAS A SIGNIFICANT ACCIDENT AND A BIG PROBLEM THAT
15:00:25 NO ONE WAS HURT AT THREE-MILE ISLAND.
15:00:28 THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. SEPTEMBER 11, THAT HAD NOTHING
15:00:33 TO DO WITH NUCLEAR POWER BUT IT CAUSED NUCLEAR POWER OPERATORS
15:00:36 AROUND THE COUNTRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
15:00:39 THERE WERE A TERRORIST ATTACK, AND YOU CAN GO ON YOUTUBE AND
15:00:43 SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN F4 PHANTOM JET RUNS INTO A CONCRETE
15:00:47 WALL AT 500 MILES AN HOUR. THE JET VAPORIZES BUT THE PLANT
15:00:52 IS STILL THERE. HURRICANE KATRINA HAD NOTHING TO
15:00:55 DO WITH NUCLEAR POWER, BUT IT CAUSED OPERATORS IN THE 104
15:01:00 NUCLEAR PLANTS AROUND THE COUNTRY TO THINK, WHAT WOULD
15:01:04 HAPPEN IF WE HAD A HORRIFIC EVENT LIKE THE SIZE OF HURRICANE
15:01:08 KATRINA? SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LOT
15:01:10 TO LEARN FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN JAPAN.
15:01:15 FOR EXAMPLE, ON SPENT FUEL STORAGE, A LOT OF TALK ABOUT
15:01:18 THAT. IT HELPS US THINK ABOUT, IS IT
15:01:22 PROPER TO -- HOW LONG SHOULD IT BE IN POOLS?
15:01:26 HOW SOON COULD IT GO TO DRY CASTS?
15:01:32 IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW, AS DR. CHU HAS SAID, THE
15:01:39 PRESIDENT'S NOBEL PRIZE WINNING CHIEF, THAT IT'S OKAY TO STORE
15:01:46 FUEL ON-SITE FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS.
15:01:49 AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT ALL THE FUEL WE'VE STORED WOULD
15:01:53 FIT ON ONE FOOTBALL FIELD TO A DEPTH OF ABOUT 20 FEET.
15:01:56 THAT'S THE MASS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
15:02:03 THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK. WHAT ABOUT YUCCA MOUNTAIN?
15:02:08 WE DO NEED TO DISPOSE OF IT. WE HAVE INVESTED MILLIONS OF
15:02:13 DOLLARS TO DISPOSE OF IT. WHY SHOULDN'T WE DO IT?
15:02:18 WE HAVE BEEN THINKING OF NEW REACTORS.
15:02:25 . WE HAVE A WATCHED BAR.
15:02:28 HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S EVEN SAFER AS SENATOR CARPER SAID WE HAVE
15:02:34 NOT HAD ONE SINGLE FATALITY RELATD TO A REACTOR IN THE
15:02:38 HISTORY OF THOSE FACILITIES. SO THERE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS
15:02:42 TO ASK. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO
15:02:44 LEARN FROM THE JAPAN DISASTER, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT AT THE SAME
15:02:50 TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE SAFETY RECORD THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS
15:02:55 FORM OF ENERGY PRODUCTION IN THE UNITED STATES AND KEEP IT ALL IN
15:03:00 PERSPECTIVE. SENATOR CARPER AND SENATOR
15:03:02 BOXER, I WELCOME THESE HEARINGS. THE MORE OF THEM THE BETTER.
15:03:07 I BELIEVE THE MORE WE UNDERSTAND AND TALK ABOUT THIS COMPLEX OF
15:03:10 CITY ENERGY PROTECTION, THE SAFEST WE'RE LIKELY TO BE, AND
15:03:14 THE MORE USEFUL IT WILL BE TO PROPOSE CLEAN AIR IN OUR
15:03:21 COUNTRY. EXCUSE ME, I AM GOING TO
15:03:25 SENATOR UDALL AND BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU.
15:03:32 I THANK MY CLIENTS IN THE HOUSE AND CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO
15:03:38 HEARING THEIR TESTIMONY. AS SENATOR CARPER HAS SAID, OUR
15:03:41 THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS REALLY DO GO OUT TO THE JAPANESE PEOPLE
15:03:44 FOR THIS TRAGEDY AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM.
15:03:46 I KNOW WHEN I TALKED THE OTHER DAY WITH JAPAN'S AMBASSADOR TO
15:03:50 THE UNITED STATES, HE WAS VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE LEVEL
15:03:55 OF SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT THAT WE WERE GIVING JAPAN.
15:04:00 I KNOW MANY SCIENTISTS HAVE COME FROM CALIFORNIA, NEW MEXICO AND
15:04:05 FROM OUR NATIONAL LABS, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY APPRECIATE
15:04:08 AND I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF.
15:04:11 THIS IS A THREE-PART DISASTER, AN EARTHQUAKE, I SUE NAUCHL I,
15:04:18 AND IT TRAGIC. AMERICANS SHOULD FOCUS ON THEIR
15:04:26 SIX KIDS, THE JAPANESE. NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS ARE RARE BUT
15:04:32 THEIR CONSEQUENCES CAN BE SEVERE.
15:04:37 SAFETY MUST BE THE TOP PRIORITY FOR GOVERNMENT REGULATORS AND IT
15:04:40 SHOULD BE THE TOP PRIORITY FOR THE INDUSTRY AS WELL.
15:04:43 THE JAPANESE CRISIS UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR INFORMATION FCHL
15:04:49 TRANSPARENCY. NUCLEAR ENERGY WILL GULF OF
15:04:53 MEXICO BE TERRIBLY IMPORTANT TO. WE HAVE 400 REACTORS TODAY, AND
15:05:05 MORE WILL BE BUILT. BUT IT'S HARD TO BUILD REACTORS
15:05:08 IF THE PUBLIC REMAINS IN FEAR OF THEM.
15:05:12 MY JOP IS TO ENSURE THAT THE EPA AND THE PRC SAFETY STANDARDS
15:05:20 ARE OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANT AND WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO, QUOTE,
15:05:28 UNQUOTE, STREAMLINE OR CUT CORNERS ON SAFETY STANDARDS.
15:05:33 IT WILL BE UP TO THE BANK AND LOCAL COMMUNITY ON WHETHER TO
15:05:37 INVEST IN COMMUNITY PROJECTS COMPARED TO THE OTHER OPTIONS
15:05:40 OUT THERE. NATIONS LIKE FRANCE WHICH RELY
15:05:44 HEAVILY ON NUCLEAR POWER ALSO HAVE TAXPAYERS PICKING UP MOST
15:05:47 OF THE TAB. AND THAT IS NOT REALISTIC FOR
15:05:49 THE UNITED STATES' CURRENT BUDGET SITUATION.
15:05:54 SO I PRECH APPRECIATE THIS LENGTH OF WITNESSES TODAY, AND
15:05:59 I'M GOING TO YIELD BACK MY TIME SO WE CAN GET QUICKLY TO THE
15:06:05 SOCCER YARD. SENATOR GRASSO, THANK YOU FOR
15:06:12 YOUR PATIENCE. WE APPRECIATE OUR GUESTS FOR
15:06:14 BEING HERE TO TESTIFY, AND I WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH
15:06:16 THE OPENING REMARKS OF SENATOR UDALL REGARDING HIS CONCERNS FOR
15:06:19 THE PEOPLE OF JAPAN, ABSOLUTELY. INCREDIBLE CHAL LEPGZ,
15:06:25 INCREDIBLE LOSS. I THINK -- THE TSUNAMI AND THE
15:06:35 EARTHQUAKE OCCURRED IN JAPAN, NOT THE UNITED STATES.
15:06:38 THE MACHINE THAT PRECEDED THE U 'NAM I AND EARTHQUAKE OCCURRED
15:06:42 IN JAPAN. THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE IS
15:06:45 OCCURRING IN JAPAN WITH THE HELP FROM THE UNITED STATES.
15:06:53 BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE REGULATORY
15:07:00 COMMISSION IS ACTING ON HIS EMERGENCY POWERS SINCE THE
15:07:04 DISASTER FIRST OCCURRED. THE REASON WHY THESE EMERGENCY
15:07:12 ROPZ, DOESN'T HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE UNITED STATES NUCLEAR
15:07:17 SAFETY RESPONSE. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
15:07:19 I BELIEVE THE HEARING TODAY IS SO IMPORTANT.
15:07:31 SOMEONE TO USE THIS IN JAPAN TO HELP WIPE OUT NUCLEAR REACTION
15:07:36 IN THE UNITED STATES. THE ARTICLE STATES THAT, QUOTE,
15:07:44 ENVIRONMENTALISTS ARE STEPPING UP EFFORTS TO PUSH THE EPA TO
15:07:52 OVERMINE OPERATIONS IN LIGHT OF THE NUCLEAR DISASTER, TARGETING
15:07:55 THE PROCESSING OF METAL BECAUSE ITS DISTRACTION MARKS THE FIRST
15:07:58 STEP IN THE NUCLEAR FUEL CYCLE THAT ITS PROPONENTS TOUT AS AN
15:08:05 ALTERNATIVE TO FOSSIL FUELS, CLOSED QUOTE.
15:08:08 HOW URANIUM MINING IS TIED TO A NUCLEAR EMERGENCY IS BEYOND ME.
15:08:13 I WISH THEY WOULD NOT IGNORE THESE TYPE OF STOPS WHICH WOULD
15:08:19 OCCUR IF THE JAPANESE CATASTROPHE HAD OCCURRED OR NOT.
15:08:22 WE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM THOSE WHO WANT TO STOP HYDRAULIC
15:08:26 FRACTURING. THIS IS A PROCESS WHERE WE CAN
15:08:31 TAP THE HYDRAULIC RESERVES. THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT NATURAL
15:08:36 GAS, EITHER. BY TAPPING ALL ENERGY SOURCES,
15:08:38 INCLUDING NUCLEAR AND NATURAL GAS, ACTIVISTS ARE DRIVING UP
15:08:42 THE COST OF ENERGY. THEY ARE RAISING THE COST OF
15:08:44 RUNNING A FACTORY, OR A MINOR A SMALL BUSINESS.
15:08:48 THEY ARE RAISING THE FACT OF COOLING HOMES IN THIS COUNTRY.
15:08:52 THIS WILL COST THOUSANDS OF JOBS DURING OUR ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.
15:08:55 WE CANNOT REACH A CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE WITHOUT NATURAL GAS OR
15:09:02 SOME POWER. THAT MEANS COLE, SOLAR, HYDRO --
15:09:16 POWER. THE CHEAPEST ENERGY IS ENERGY
15:09:18 THAT'S NOT USED. WE NEED THE TYPE OF THING THAT
15:09:21 KEEPS FACTORIES RUNNING AND HOMES HEATED.
15:09:24 PLACES LIKE GERMANY WHO ARE PHASING OUT NUCLEAR POWER ARE
15:09:29 RECOGNIZING THIS FACT. THERE WAS A PRESS STORY ON APRIL
15:09:33 6 ENTITLED "UTILITIES: IT GOES ON AND CHANTS, STATE ANGELA
15:09:43 MERKLE'S ATTEMPTS TO TAKE POWER LINES OFF LINE OF JAPAN'S
15:09:50 DISASTER MEANS THEY ARE NO LONGER COUNTING ON THEIR
15:09:55 NEIGHBORS. IT PPZ ABOUT 30-GIGABYTE HOURS
15:10:00 FROM FRANCE AND THE CZECH REPUBLIC EVERY DAY.
15:10:06 SO THIS SAME PATTERN WE'RE SEEING IN GERMANY WILL OCCUR IN
15:10:08 THE UNITED STATES. AMERICAN STATES THAT DECLARE
15:10:13 THEMSELVES NUCLEAR FREE, WHETHER CALIFORNIA OR ELSEWHERE,
15:10:17 WHATEVER STATES DECLARE THEMSELVES NUCLEAR FREE AND SHUT
15:10:19 DOWN NUCLEAR PLANTS WILL HAVE TO HAVE POWER SHIPPED IN FROM
15:10:22 NEIGHBORING STATES. IT'S AN ENERGY SHELL GAME AND IT
15:10:28 WILL NOT HIDE AMERICA'S FOREIGN NEED TO POWER THIS GAIN.
15:10:33 LET'S NOT TRY TO SUT DOWN ANOTHER ENERGY SOURCE.
15:10:39 LET'S TRY AND BE AS CLEAN AS WE CAN AND AS FAST AS WE CAN
15:10:46 WITHOUT INTERRUPTING OTHER JOBS. AS WE SAID, WE ALL AGREE THAT
15:10:56 OUR SYMPATHIES, OUR CONCERN, AND OUR DESIRE TO BE OF HELP TO THE
15:10:59 PEOPLE IN JAPAN WHO ARE AFFECTED AS A RESULT OF THE EARTHQUAKE
15:11:06 TSUNAMI AND THE NUCLEAR EMERGENCY.
15:11:08 BUT WE WANT TO LEARN FROM IT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
15:11:15 WE'RE DOING WHAG WE CAN FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY.
15:11:23 DO AMERICANS THINK OF VLG TIME. WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE?
15:11:29 SOON AFTER THE MELTDOWN IN N JAPAN, I ASKED THEM TO PERFORM A
15:11:40 COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW WHICH PROVIDE OUR STATE WITH ABOUT
15:11:43 HALF OF ITS ELECTRICITY. I ALSO REQUESTED THE THE CHIEF
15:11:50 EXECUTIVES OF NEW JERSEY POWER COMPANIES TO JOIN ME IN MY
15:11:53 OFFICE WHERE THEY AGREED WITH A THOROUGH, SHAKY REVIEW OF EACH
15:11:59 OF THE FOUR REACTORS. THE PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY NEED TO
15:12:01 KNOW THAT IF OUR PLANTS ARE SAFE, THEN WE'RE DETERMINED TO
15:12:06 SEE THAT THEY GET THE PEACE OF MIND THAT THEY DESERVE, OF THE
15:12:12 REALITY OF BEING PROTECTED. THIS ISN'T THE ONLY CONCERN IN
15:12:15 NEW JERSEY, A NUCLEAR REACTOR PROVIDES 20% OF AMERICA'S
15:12:20 ELECTRICITY, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE NUCLEAR SAFETY A NATIONAL
15:12:23 PRIORITY. THE UNITED STATES HAS A GOOD
15:12:25 TRACK RECORD OF KEEPING OUR PLANTS SAFE.
15:12:27 THERE HAVE BEEN FEW ACCIDENTS AND FEW FATALITIES, BUT WE'VE
15:12:30 GOT TO REMAIN VIGILANT IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THIS RECORD.
15:12:35 JAPAN, THE WORLD LEADER OF TECHNOLOGY, BUT AS WE KNOW, IT
15:12:42 WASN'T ENOUGH. SO HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WE
15:12:45 CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED. KEEP AMERICANS SAFE.
15:12:49 WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE OUR CITIZENS A CLEAR GUIDE
15:12:53 IN STEERING EMERGENCIES. AND I WAS TRUCKED.
15:12:55 WHEN AMERICAN CITIZENS IN JAPAN WERE TOLD TO STAY AT LEAST 50
15:12:58 MILES AWAY FROM THE SITE OF THE EMERGENCY.
15:13:05 IN OUR COUNTRY, GUIDELINES REQUIRE PEOPLE TO ONLY STAY
15:13:09 WITHIN 10 MILES AWAY FROM A NUCLEAR EMERGENCY.
15:13:12 MAKE NO MISTAKE, NUCLEAR POWER DEMONSTRATIONS MAKE ENERGY AND
15:13:19 THEY WILL BE PART OF OUR ENERGY FUTURE.
15:13:21 BUT WE CANNOT EVER TRADE PEOPLE'S SAFETY FOR THE SAKE OF
15:13:25 MEETING OUR ENERGY DEMANDS. WE SAW CHERNOBYL A QUARTER
15:13:29 CENTURY AGO. THE EFFECTS OF A SINGLE NUCLEAR
15:13:33 ACCIDENT THAT WILL LINGER FOR GENERATIONS.
15:13:36 SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM TODAY'S WITNESSES.
15:13:39 I THANK OUR COLLEAGUES FROM THE HOUSE ABOUT HOW WE CAN LEARN
15:13:43 FROM PAST MISTAKES AND MAKE SURE THE NUCLEAR POWER REMAINS A
15:13:47 SAFE, CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE. I WANT TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING
15:13:50 THAT WE HEARD TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, AND THAT IS, WELL,
15:13:56 COSTS. COSTS.
15:13:59 NUCLEAR POWER DOES SO MUCH FOR US, BUT HAS RISKS.
15:14:03 WHEN WE THINK OF THE CONTRIBUTION THAT NUCLEAR POWER
15:14:05 BRINGS TO OUR ENERGY NEEDS, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON
15:14:12 HAVING NUCLEAR POWER CREATED. BUT BURNING FOSSIL FUEL HAS AN
15:14:18 AFTERCOST. IT HAS A LASTING EFFECT ON OUR
15:14:21 ENVIRONMENT AND ON THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF OUR CITIZENS.
15:14:24 SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST FOR ENERGY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE
15:14:30 COST OF -- ON FEDAIR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE ASTHMA AND OTHERWISE
15:14:38 AND POLLUTION GENERALLY. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE
15:14:41 PICTURE. I ASSURE YOU THAT WE'D LIKE TO
15:14:43 DO JUST THAT. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:14:46 THANK YOU, SENATOR. SENATOR MARKLAND?
15:14:50 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND I EXPRESS MY DEEP SYMPATHIES TO
15:14:53 THE FAMILIES OF JAPAN, VICTIMS OF THE TRIPLE TRAGEDY, THE
15:14:58 EARTHQUAKE, TSUNAMI AND CERTAINLY THE NUCLEAR DISASTER.
15:15:01 AND I THANK ALL THE HEROES IN JAPAN WHO RACED TO THE SCENE TO
15:15:05 PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO VICTIMS OF THE EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI, AND
15:15:08 THOSE WHO ARE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO COOL THE NUCLEAR
15:15:11 REACTORS AND CONTAIN THE RADIATION THAT IS BEING
15:15:18 RELEASED. IT IS VERY MUCH OUR WORST
15:15:19 NIGHTMARE THAT A NATURAL DISASTER OF SOME KIND SHOULD
15:15:23 CAUSE A SIMILAR TRAGEDY IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THAT'S WHY
15:15:28 IT'S CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE AND IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING
15:15:32 POSSIBLE TO TAKE AND LOOK AT THE LESSONS IN JAPAN AND APPLY THEM
15:15:38 TO OUR OWN SYSTEM JUST AS WE APPLIED A STRESS TEST TO THE
15:15:43 BANKS AND THE FINANCIAL CRISIS, WE NEED TO APPLY A STRESS TEST
15:15:46 TO OUR NUCLEAR PLANTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WEAKNESSES
15:15:52 ARE. WHEN THE DISASTER HAPPENED IN
15:15:57 JAPAN, CERTAINLY A LOT OF DISCUSSION WAS AROUND THE
15:16:00 COOLING POOLS FOR RODS. I WAS TAKEN BACK TO WHEN I WAS
15:16:04 TRAVELING THROUGH HANFORD MANY YEARS AGO, ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO,
15:16:08 AND WAS LOOKING AT THE COOLING POOL AT HANFORD, AND YOU HAD
15:16:11 THAT KIND OF EERIE BLUE GLOW DOWN IN THE POOL, AND I ASKED
15:16:21 THE QUESTION, IF A NUCLEAR REACTOR BROKE, WHAT HAPPENS TO
15:16:24 THE WATER IF IT RUSHES OUT? THE ANSWER WAS BASICALLY A BLANK
15:16:29 LOOK THAT SAID, THAT WOULD BE BAD.
15:16:31 CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED IN FAR BETTER WAYS THAN SIMPLY
15:16:35 SAYING SOMETHING WOULD BE BAD. IN THE LAST TWO DECADES, WE'VE
15:16:39 BUILT ONLY THREE NEW NUCLEAR REACTORS AND BY THE TIME WE
15:16:49 ACCOUNT FOR A NUCLEAR DISASTER AND BY THE TIME WE ACCOUNT FOR
15:16:54 TERRORIST ATTACK. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
15:16:55 BECAUSE THE RISK IS SUBSTANTIAL. THAT IS CERTAINLY A FACTOR.
15:16:59 WE HAVE STRATEGIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORTH BY GROUPS LIKE
15:17:04 NEW STALE IN OREGON. OWE PATTERNS THAT HAVE FAIL-SAFE
15:17:12 MECHANISMS OR PASSIVE PROTECTIONS THAT I THINK
15:17:16 CERTAINLY SHOULD BE -- WE SHOULD LOOK INTO AND UNDERSTAND THAT
15:17:18 PART OF THIS CONVERSATION WHETHER FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT
15:17:23 DESIGNS WOULD GREATLY MITIGATE THE RISKS.
15:17:27 THESE DISASTERS OCCUR BECAUSE WE LOSE THE HEATING TRANSFER MEDIUM
15:17:29 AND PLANTS OVERHEAT. BUT THEY ARE DESIGNS INTENDED TO
15:17:32 MAKE SURE THERE IS NO MELTDOWN EVEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHETHER
15:17:35 THE MEDIUM BE WATER OR THE MEDIUM BE HELIUM.
15:17:41 THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
15:17:42 SO THE WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND I YIELD
15:17:46 BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THANK YOU, SO MUCH, MR.
15:17:53 CHAIRMAN, FOR HOLDING THE HEARING.
15:17:56 MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, I APPRECIATE YOU HOLDING THIS HEARING AS
15:17:59 WELL. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE WE
15:18:01 SHARE GREAT PASSION FOR, AND IN LIGHT OF THE DISASTER IN
15:18:06 JANUARY, I'M REALLY JUST THANKSING YOU BOTH TO DRAWING
15:18:10 OUR ATTENTION TO SUCH A SERIOUS ISSUE.
15:18:16 THANK YOU FOR SPENDING TIME AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
15:18:19 I MAY NOT HAVE THE TIME TO MANS QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO
15:18:23 HIGHLIGHT MY AREAS FOR CONCERN AND I WILL HAND THEM IN FOR
15:18:34 REVIEW. IN ANY PLANLT WHICH IS THE ONE
15:18:36 THAT SERVES ABOUT 30% OF NEW YORK'S ELECTRICITY RIGHT NOW, IT
15:18:39 WAS WITHIN A 50-MILE RADIUS. IT HIT 16 MILLION PEOPLE.
15:18:44 SO WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERN TO FOCUS ON THAT, AND ALL THE
15:18:46 PLANTS IN NEW YORK TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE.
15:18:49 AT INDIAN POINT, THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF WAIVERS GIVEN.
15:18:56 ARE YOU GOING TO RELOOK AT THE. IF SHE SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED
15:19:01 AND PERHAPS WITHDRAWN. SO THE ISSUE OF WAIVERs AND
15:19:15 EVACUATION. THE PLANS WITH REGARD TO INDIAN
15:19:17 POINT IS A TEN-MILEY EVACUATION PLANT.
15:19:20 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE REASON WHY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN
15:19:23 EVACUATION PLANS. TO DO A 10-MILEY EVACUATION FOR
15:19:26 INDIAN POINT TAKES NINE HOURS. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A
15:19:31 DIFFERENT TYPE OF REDUNDANCY, AND ANOTHER SL TO BACK UP A
15:19:39 VEHICLE. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE EVACUATIONS
15:19:47 AND HOW TRIVIAL THEY CARE ABOUT THESE ITEMS.
15:19:51 OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE LOOMING ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 2011, AND ONE
15:19:57 RECOMMENDATION WAS TO STEER CLEAR OF ALL THEY STAND AND WHAT
15:20:05 KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS ARE YOU DOING WITH REGARD TO EMPLOYEES
15:20:10 WITH REGARD TO I MARK AND VULNERABLE STRUCTURE ISSUES.
15:20:15 AND THE LAST ISSUE IS THE POOL AND DRY STORAGE ISSUES.
15:20:19 ARE THESE POOLS DESIGNED TO BE LONG-TERM STORAGE?
15:20:22 WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO DO TO MOVE THEM FROM A FUEL POOL TO DRY
15:20:29 CAST STORAGE FACILITIES, AS A GENERAL MATTER, FOR SAFETY.
15:20:33 OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A LONG LIST OF CONCERNS AND ISSUES.
15:20:39 IF YOU DO GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR
15:20:44 OPINION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
15:20:46 INTRODUCING CONGRESSWOMAN CAPS AND CONGRESSMAN BILL GATES.
15:20:52 CONGRESSWOMAN CAPS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US.
15:20:55 SHE'S GIFTED TO THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE.
15:20:57 SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. IN FACT, WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
15:21:02 CONGRESSWOMAN LOIS CAPS, 23rd DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, AND
15:21:07 FOLLOWED BY CONGRESSMAN BRIAN LARAY.
15:21:18 WE'RE GLAD YOU HEAR, ROADWAYS YOU AND HAVE MERCY.
15:21:22 THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOIPG UT ROCKY
15:21:31 MOUNTAIN CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR
15:21:33 HOLDING THIS HEARING AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY.
15:21:41 WE COULD BBLG ESSENTIAL FOCUS IN THE WEEKS FOLLOWING THE JAPANESE
15:21:49 AND A -- WE BELIEVE IT KENLA AND OTHER POTENTIAL THREATS.
15:22:01 YESTERDAY, PG&E ASKED THE NCA TO DELAY ITS LICENSE RENEWAL WHILE
15:22:08 IT STILL COMPLETES STUDIES. HERE TODAY, IN LIGHT OF THE PG&E
15:22:14 ACTION, I'M RENEWING MINE IN LIGHT OF THE PROCESS.
15:22:17 I DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY. LAST MONTH I TOURED THE POWER
15:22:24 PLANT. I LEFT WITH TWO THINGS.
15:22:27 FIRST, THAT EMPLOYEES ARE MEANT TO DO IT RIGHT.
15:22:34 I WANT TO BE JOINED BY CALIFORNIA STATE SENATOR ROBERT
15:22:42 BLAXLY. STATE SENATOR BLAKESLY WILL
15:22:48 TESTIFY TODAY ALONG WITH A P HRNGS D.
15:22:52 I'M SURE THE INFORMATION WILL OFFER THE COMMITTEE VALUABLE
15:22:59 ON-THE-GROUND SITE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS.
15:23:04 WE DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS WE NEED TO COMFORT BELIEVELY MOVE
15:23:12 FORWARD. AND BECAUSE THE REACTORS DO NOT
15:23:15 NEED TO BE LICENSED FOR MORE THAN A DOZEN YEARS, WE HAVE
15:23:19 PLENTY OF TIME TO FIND THOSE ANSWERS.
15:23:22 MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT HAPPENED SO TRAGICALLY IN JAPAN OFFERS US
15:23:26 THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION AND QUESTION AGAIN, WHETHER WE'RE
15:23:35 R READY.
15:23:36 THEY HAVE SAID THERE COULD BE A MULTIPLE CATASTROPHE SUCH AS AN
15:23:41 EARTHQUAKE AND A MELTDOWN AT DIABLO NUCLEAR PLANT.
15:23:47 A QUOTE: SOMETHING NUCLEAR HAPPENING IS FAIRLY SMALL.
15:23:57 THE UNTHINKABLE DID HAPPEN IN JAPAN.
15:24:00 AN EARTHQUAKE, A TSUNAMI AND A NUCLEAR ACCIDENT COULD OCCUR,
15:24:13 TRULY. MR. CHAIRMAN, LET'S BExD
15:24:18 WE KNOW THE PLANT EXIST. THEY DISCOVERED THE FALLS LESS
15:24:22 THAN THREE MILES AWAY, FORCING A MAJOR RESIGN AND PUSHING THE
15:24:27 PROJECT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER BUDGET.
15:24:31 2008 THEY BASICALLY DISCOVERED ANOTHER SITE.
15:24:36 IT LIES OFFSHORE ABOUT AN HOUR FROM THE PLANT.
15:24:41 DIABLO WAS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE TWO LARGEST POWER PLANTS FOR A
15:24:47 HIGH RISK AREA. CAN THIS PLANT, -- CAN THIS
15:25:00 PLANT BE SUSTAINED FOR A LONG TIME?
15:25:02 MANY OF US ON THE COAST OF CENTRAL CALIFORNIA REMAIN
15:25:05 CONCERNED THAT THE NRC HAS NOT TAKEN ACTION TO ADDRESS THESE
15:25:09 QUESTIONS OR ADDRESS THESE WARNINGS.
15:25:11 SO MUCH SO THAT THE CALIFORNIA COMMISSION IS SAID AND THEY HAVE
15:25:18 DIRECTED THAT PEER-REVIEWED REACTOR PLACE SHOULD BE STUDIED.
15:25:27 I AGREE WITH THAT. WE NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET
15:25:30 ALL THE ANSWERS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT I'M
15:25:33 NOT TALKING ABOUT DIABLO. I'M ASKING THAT YOU CAN BE
15:25:45 HAUNTED UNTIL UPDATED SIZ MICK 303 STUDIES BE COMPLETED IN
15:25:54 LIGHT OF THE PROCESS AND THAT THEY BE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY
15:26:00 WITH THEIR SIN TIS. IT WILL CAUSE TAXPAYERS BILLIONS
15:26:04 OF DOLLARS TO, ONCE AGAIN, BELATEDLY ADDRESS ISSUES THAT
15:26:10 SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH BEFOREHAND.
15:26:13 THAT'S WHY I'M HOPEFUL THE NRC WILL WORK WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
15:26:19 IF WE GET TO THIS POINT, REMAIN STEADY AND REMAIN UNRESOLVED.
15:26:29 I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY.
15:26:32 CONGRESSMAN BILL BRAY, WELCOME.
15:26:39 IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE. LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF SAN JOSE
15:26:49 COUNTY. I HAVE THE CONCERNS THAT
15:26:50 EVERYONE HAS AFTER SEEING WHAT HAPPENED IN JAPAN.
15:26:52 EVERY ONE OF MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN EXCEPT TO THOSE
15:26:57 WHO HAVE BEEN EXILED TO HELEN IN MONTANA NOT ONLY LIVE DOWN WIND.
15:27:08 THE STATE NOCCHES BUT SOMEONE WHO THE EVACUATION AND RESPONSE
15:27:22 TO NOT JUST THE NUCLEAR ISSUE BUT ALSO THE TSUNAMI ISSUE.
15:27:28 AND ALSO AS A PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE CALIFORNIA
15:27:31 COASTAL COMMISSION, AN AGENCY THAT HAS OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW OF
15:27:34 THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS IN CALIFORNIA.
15:27:37 THIS ISSUE REALLY DID BRING BACK MEMORIES OF ALL THE HEARINGS AND
15:27:43 PROCESSES WE'VE HAD THE FRANKLY THERE ARE STILL THE FACTS TO BE
15:27:46 TAKEN, STILL RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT I THINK THERE
15:27:49 ARE SOME INDICATIONS THAT ARE VERY, VERY ENLIGHTENING.
15:27:52 ONE IS THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE JAPANESE PLANT WAS NOT
15:27:56 DESIGNED TO THOSE ENGINEERED IN OUR CALIFORNIA PLANTS, THAT IT
15:28:00 DID SURVIVE AN EARTHQUAKE THAT'S WELL OVER WHAT OUR PLANTS EVER
15:28:04 PERCEIVED TO BE. IN FACT, THE POINT THAT WE'RE
15:28:08 TALKING ABOUT THAT HAS STRUCK THIS PLANT, WE'RE LOOKING AT 7
15:28:13 MAXIMUM OR 7.2 MAXIMUM IN CALIFORNIA.
15:28:16 THAT FREQUENCY OF 7.2, AS POINTED OUT BY SECRETARY CHU,
15:28:24 OCCURS EVERY 7 TO 10,000 YEARS. SO IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE
15:28:30 ENGINEERING. THE JAPANESE WERE HIT WITH A
15:28:34 GROUND MOTION OF .52. OUR CALIFORNIA SANTA NOFRA TO A
15:28:45 POINT .2 TO A 1.7. IT WILL NOT GET OVER A 7.2 AND
15:28:54 THAT WILL BE NO SOONER THAN SEVEN YEARS.
15:29:01 IT WAS NOT AN EARTHQUAKE AS WE GET THE INFORMATION NOW.
15:29:03 IT WAS A TSUNAMI. AND AS A SURFER, LET ME TELL YOU
15:29:07 THIS IS ONE THING THAT IS NOT JOKING IN ANY MANNER, BUT IT IS
15:29:11 ONE THAT'S VERY DISCONCERTING. THE FACT IS THAT JAPAN HAD A
15:29:17 10-FOOT SURGE WALL. THEY'RE SITTING ON A POSSIBILITY
15:29:29 IN AN AREA WHERE THE EXPERTS SAID THE TIDAL WAVES WOULD NEVER
15:29:32 REACH THAT LEVEL, BUT IF THEY DID, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
15:29:36 CALIFORNIA FACILITIES AND THE JAPANESE FACILITIES IS THE
15:29:39 CALIFORNIA FACILITIES HAVE GRAVITY FEED COOLING BUILT INTO
15:29:43 THEIR SYSTEMS AND THEY HAVE THEIR PUMP SYSTEMS TOTALLY
15:29:46 PROTECTED WHICH THE JAPANESE DID NOT HAVE.
15:29:48 THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THEIR FUEL TANKS PROTECTED, WHICH WAS A
15:29:51 MAJOR FLAW. I THINK THAT'S WHERE GOOD
15:29:54 ASSESSMENT CAN REALLY BE MADE ON THIS ISSUE.
15:29:56 REMEMBER, AS WE TALK ABOUT NUCLEAR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
15:29:59 AS A FORMER MEMBER OF SIX YEARS ON THE RESOURCES BOARD, WE'RE
15:30:04 TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT A VOIDS EMISSIONS,
15:30:08 INCLUDING 86% OF ALL AUTOMOBILES THAT ARE DRIVING ON AMERICAN
15:30:13 SOIL. I THINK WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZES
15:30:17 THE CHALLENGES, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH THE U.S. HAVE TO BE PART OF
15:30:30 ANY PLAN TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.
15:30:32 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS, MADAM
15:30:35 CHAIR AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IS WHERE ARE WE TODAY, HAVE WE
15:30:39 OVERENGINEERED, AND WAS THAT OVERENGINEERING PROOF?
15:30:42 I THINK ONE THING IT LOOKS LIKE IN CALIFORNIA IS THAT WE HAVE,
15:30:47 AND THAT SHOULD BE REASSURING. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WE'RE NOT
15:30:53 JUST TALKING SAN OFRIO AND SAN DIEGO BUT RELATIVE NUMBERS OF
15:31:03 YARDS THAT THE GOVERNMENT OWNS. THOSE ARE ISSUES WE IGNORE AND I
15:31:07 THINK IT'S ONE WE ADDRESS. THE BIGGEST ISSUE I'D LIKE TO
15:31:10 AGREE WITH YOU STRONGLY ON, SENATOR, IS HOW DO WE ADDRESS
15:31:15 THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S 40 YEARS OLD THAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND
15:31:18 OPERATING TODAY, BUT HOW DO WE MOVE TO TECHNOLOGY THAT'S THERE,
15:31:28 BUT ALSO CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT WASTE PROBLEM,
15:31:32 THAT 100 YARD BY 20 FOOT WHICH NOW IT COULD NOT ONLY BE A FUEL,
15:31:38 IT COULD BE BURNED IN THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S NOT SAFE BUT
15:31:42 ALSO A TECHNOLOGY WHICH COULD USED UP THAT.
15:31:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
15:31:56 LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU SOON. THANK YOU.
15:32:06 WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO INVITE OUR SECOND PANEL, JIM YASCO,
15:32:12 ADMINISTRATOR JACKSON, TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE, PLEASE.
15:32:27 NEITHER OF OUR MEMBERS ON THE SECOND PANEL ARE STRANGERS TO
15:32:30 US. WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARDSHIP AND
15:32:33 YOUR RESPONSE TO THE DISASTERS IN JAPAN.
15:32:35 FIRST WE'LL HEAR FROM LISA JACKSON, WHO THE ADMINISTRATOR
15:32:38 OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AND FOLLOWING HER
15:32:42 TESTIMONY, WE'LL HEAR FROM GREG YASCO, WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF THE
15:32:46 NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION. WE'LL ASK YOU TO USE ABOUT FIVE
15:32:48 MINUTES FOR YOUR STATEMENT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
15:32:51 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. YOUR STATEMENT WILL BE MADE PART
15:32:54 OF THE RECORD. THANK YOU, ALL THE MEMBERS OF
15:33:00 THIS COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TESTIFY ON EPA'S
15:33:04 ROLE IN RESPONDING TO THE TRAGEDY IN JAPAN.
15:33:06 I DO WANT TO BEGIN BY EXPRESSING MY SYMPATHY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE
15:33:10 LOST LOVED ONES FROM THE EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI AND MY
15:33:18 SUPPORT FOR THOSE TRYING TO CONTROL THE RADIATION AT THE
15:33:21 FUKUSHIMA NUCLEAR PLANT IN JAPAN.
15:33:23 THEIR EFFORTS ARE TRULY HEROIC. AS JAPAN TRIES TO CONTROL THEIR
15:33:29 REACTORS, MANY AMERICANS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THE MANY
15:33:33 RELEASES TO THE ATMOSPHERE MAY MEAN TO THEM, AND WHAT THE
15:33:35 GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE HERE IN THE UNITED
15:33:39 STATES. LET ME BEGIN BY SPEAKING
15:33:40 DIRECTLY TO THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RADIATION
15:33:44 DETECTION, THAT MONITORING AND SAMPLING FROM THE EPA AND OTHER
15:33:48 FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE PICKING UP THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
15:33:53 LET ME BE CLEAR. THE EPA DOES NOT EXPECT TO SEE
15:33:56 RADIATION IN OUR AIR OR WATER REACHING HARMFUL LEVELS IN THE
15:34:01 UNITED STATES. ALL THE DATA WE HAVE SEEN, WHICH
15:34:04 WE CONTINUE TO BE MAKING PUBLIC ON OUR WEB SITE, INDICATES THAT
15:34:08 WHILE THE LEVELS ARE RADIATED IN SOME PLACES, THEY ARE
15:34:13 SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW MODERATE LEVELS.
15:34:16 IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE TSUNAMI STRUCK, WE DETECTED RADIOACTIVE
15:34:26 ISOTOPES. THESE NUMBERS WERE SO MINISCULE,
15:34:28 THAT THEY WERE 100 TIMES THE EXPOSURE WE ALL RECEIVE.
15:34:32 WE'RE EXPOSED TO RADIATION EVERY DAY, SUCH AS RESOURCES IN THE
15:34:37 GROUND AND MANMADE SOURCES, SUCH AS X-RAYS.
15:34:41 WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE EVENT FOR RADIATION.
15:34:46 WE'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THE DATA MEAN TO THE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES THAT
15:34:49 WE SERVE. AS I'VE SAID IN THIS COMMUNITY,
15:34:57 TRANSPARENCY WILL GUIDE ALL OF OUR ACTIONS.
15:35:00 IF YOU REMAIN, A RESPONSE TO THIS ROLE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
15:35:04 USING A VARIETY OF TECHNIQUES, WE EXPOSE RELEASES INTO THE
15:35:09 ENVIRONMENT IN THE UNITED STATES.
15:35:11 THESE RADIOACTIVE RELEASES ARE ONES THAT DISAPPEAR FROM THE
15:35:16 ENVIRONMENT WITHIN DAYS, SUCH AS IODINE, AND THOSE SUCH AS
15:35:21 PLUTONIUM. LET ME SPEAK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT
15:35:23 THOSE MONITORING EFFORTS. A MONITORING EFFORT CALLED RAD
15:35:35 NET, INVOLVE LONG-TERM TRENDS AND ALLOWS THEM TO DETECT
15:35:42 MINISCULE INCREASES. IT'S HELD UP TO CREATE DETEXZ.
15:35:58 THEY'RE SENDING REAL-TIME DATA TO OUR LABORATORY.
15:36:01 IN RESPONSE TO THE JAPANESE NUCLEAR INCIDENT, WE RESPONDED
15:36:04 BY QUICKLY DEPLOYING LOCAL AIR MONITORS TO FAR OFF
15:36:09 DESTINATIONS, INCLUDING ALASKA AND ISLANDS IN THE PACIFIC, TO
15:36:14 DETECT RADIATION IT AS SLOWLY MOVED AWAY FROM JAPAN.
15:36:22 WE CAN FIND EVEN MINISCULE AMOUNTS OF RADIOACTIVITY IN THE
15:36:27 AIR. MONITORING STATIONS ACROSS THE
15:36:29 COUNTRY SUBMIT PRECIPITATION SAMPLES TO EPA LABORATORIES AS
15:36:40 RAIN, FALL, SNOW AND SLEET OCCUR.
15:36:41 UNDER THIS RESPONSE WE ARE ANALYZING PRECIPITATION SAMPLES
15:36:44 AS THEY COME INTO THE LABORATORY AND QUICKLY POST THE RESULTS ON
15:36:47 OUR PUBLIC WEB SITE. ALSO, EPA ROUTINELY SAMPLES MILK
15:36:51 AND DRINKING WATER FROM SITES ACROSS THE NATION.
15:36:55 LIKE RAINWATER, THESE SITES ARE COLLECTED AND ANALYZED ON A
15:36:59 QUARTERLY BASIS, BUT IN RESPONSE TO THE NUCLEAR ACTIVITY IN
15:37:07 JAPAN, WE MEASURE THE LEVEL. THE INFORMATION IS ALL AVAILABLE
15:37:12 ON EPA'S WEBSITE. THIS WEB SITE WAS QUICKLY
15:37:20 EXPANDED AFTER THIS SUE SUE, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE NOT
15:37:26 INTO PHYSICS, COULD EASILY TELL WHAT THE MONITORS WERE
15:37:33 INDICATING. IT R -- MADAM CHAIRMAN, THANK
15:37:40 YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THESE ISSUES.
15:37:44 BOTH OF OUR CHAIRMEN, EXCUSE ME. WE WILL CONTINUE OUR OUTREACH TO
15:37:48 THE PUBLIC AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PROVIDE
15:37:56 AUTHORIZATION ON OUR RESULTS. THANK YOU.
15:37:58 BEFORE YOU TESTIFY, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU, TO THE OTHER
15:38:03 COMMISSIONERS, TO MEMBERS ON THE STAFF OF THE REGULATORY
15:38:06 COMMISSION THAT WE APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU STEPPED UP AND TRIED
15:38:08 TO BE AS HELPFUL AS YOU CAN TO THE PEOPLE OF -- THIS WASN'T
15:38:16 JUST TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LET UP. THANK YOU.
15:38:19 PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,
15:38:22 MADAM CHAIRMAN, AND RANKING MEMBER BROSSO.
15:38:27 I ALSO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TRAGIC EVENTS ACROSS
15:38:37 JAPAN. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TOUCHED
15:38:39 AROUND THE COUNTRY AND ALONG THE WORLD ARE FOLLOWING THIS IN
15:38:46 JAPAN AND MANY COUNTRY AROUND THE WORLD.
15:38:48 AS INDICATED, OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THOSE DEALING WITH THE
15:38:52 AFTERMATH OF THESE NATIONAL DISASTERS.
15:38:54 ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I MADE A BRIEF VISIT TO JAPAN AND MADE A
15:39:02 MESSAGE AND DISCUSS THE ONGOING SITUATION.
15:39:03 AS PART OF THAT VISIT, I MEANT WITH SENIOR JAPANESE GOVERNMENT
15:39:08 AND TETCO OFFICIALS. JUST TO BRIEFLY RECAP, ON
15:39:16 FRIDAY, MARCH 11, WHEN THE EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI STRUCK,
15:39:21 THE NRC'S HEADPOSITION. UNDER THE REORGANIZATION ACT OF
15:39:32 1980. FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THEY
15:39:36 HAVE BEEN MONITORING EVENT IN JAPAN.
15:39:41 DESPITE THE EFFORTS, THE NTHS STILL HAVE REACTORS FOR
15:39:53 FACILITIES HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
15:39:55 I, NEEDLESS TO SAY, AM INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THEIR WORK.
15:39:58 AS REGARDS THE CURRENT SITUATION OF THE REACTORS IN JAPAN, FROM
15:40:01 THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, WE BELIEVE THE SITUATION CURRENTLY
15:40:05 IS STATIC. WE DON'T SEE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES
15:40:07 ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WITH THE REACTORS.
15:40:10 IT IS NOT YET, HOWEVER, WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE STABLE.
15:40:15 NAMELY, THAT GIVING ADDITIONAL EVENTS OR OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES
15:40:20 THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
15:40:23 ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS AT THE REACTORS.
15:40:25 SO THE EFFORTS CONTINUE TO BE ON THESE EFFORTS TO TRANSITION FROM
15:40:30 STATIC TO STABLE TO ENSURE A LONG TERM, ULTIMATELY, ABILITY
15:40:34 TO PROVIDE COOLING FOR THE SPENT FUEL POOLS.
15:40:37 LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT WE HAVE AS AN NEGATIVE DEALING
15:40:44 WITH FUGITIVES IN THIS COUNTRY, ON MONDAY, MARCH 21st, THE
15:40:50 COMMISSION ACTED QUICKLY TO MOVE AND EXPLORE TO DETERMINE WHETHER
15:41:00 THE AGENCY SHOULD MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR REGULATORY
15:41:06 SYSTEM. T
15:41:09 THIS ISs AN INVITATION TO TAKE A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW OF OUR OWN
15:41:13 FACILITIES IN LIGHT OF THE JAPAN SITUATION.
15:41:15 THIS REVIEW WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A SHORT TERM AND LONGER TERM
15:41:18 TIME FRAME. THE SHORT TERM REVIEW, WHICH
15:41:21 WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS, HAS ALREADY BEGUN AND WILL
15:41:25 IDENTIFY POTENTIAL OR PRELIMINARY NEAR TERM
15:41:27 OPERATIONAL OR REGULATORY ISSUES.
15:41:30 A LONG TERM REVIEW WILL BEGIN AS SOON AS WE HAVE SUFFICIENT
15:41:33 INFORMATION FROM JAPAN. BUT WE EXPECT THAT REVIEW TO BE
15:41:37 COMPLETED WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE GOOD IT IN THAT TIME.
15:41:43 AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE LESSONS LEARNED THAN OTHER
15:41:50 COUNTERPARTS AROUND THE WORLD. I RECENTLY RETURNED FROM THE
15:41:54 FIFTH REVIEW MEETING ON NUCLEAR SAFETY WHICH PROVIDED AN
15:41:59 IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR NATIONS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE IN
15:42:03 JAPAN, AND BEGIN THE TERMS FOR SHORT AND LONG-TERM COOPERATION.
15:42:06 IN CONCLUSION, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE TON TO TAKE
15:42:12 LICENSES AND OVERSIGHT WITH THE U.S. LICENSE SEES.
15:42:22 BASED ON THE 90-DAY REVIEW AND UNDER -- ON BEHALF OF THE
15:42:32 COMMISSION, I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU
15:42:34 TODAY AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
15:42:36 MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.
15:42:37 THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR TESTIFYING.
15:42:41 MADAM CHAIRMAN? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR.
15:42:44 CHAIRMAN. FIRST I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF
15:42:47 YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THOSE OF US ON BOTH
15:42:50 SIDES OF THE AISLE HERE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
15:42:52 I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. I WANT TO PUT IN THE RECORD
15:43:03 SOMETHING I GOLT FROM USGS, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED IN JAPAN, IT
15:43:09 DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE, OBVIOUSLY. BUT HOW MANY EARTHQUAKES, I
15:43:13 WOULD SAY TO MY FRIEND, HAVE WE HAD IN AMERICA THAT THEY HAVE
15:43:19 MANAGED TO DOCUMENT, AND IT'S 157 EARTHQUAKES ALL OVER THIS
15:43:26 GREAT NATION AND IN EVERY PART OF THIS COUNTRY.
15:43:35 THESE ARE OVER 6.0. 157 EARTHQUAKES OVER 6.0.
15:43:41 I ALSO ASKED FOR THE DOCUMENTATION ON TSUNAMIS, AND
15:43:44 WHAT I DO HAVE IS THE AREAS WHERE THE HIGHEST RISKS ARE.
15:43:48 THAT WOULD BE ALASKA, HAWAII VERY HIGH, WEST COAST HIGH,
15:43:54 PUERTO RICO, VIRGIN ISLANDS HIGH, THE OTHERS LOW TO VERY
15:43:57 LOW. SO I'M GOING TO PUT THOSE BOTH
15:43:59 IN THE RECORD. NO OBJECTION.
15:44:03 THANK YOU. MR. YASCO, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
15:44:06 VERY INVOLVED, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN HELPING THE PEOPLE IN JAPAN.
15:44:09 EVERY ONE OF US ON BOTH SIDES ARE GRATEFUL, BECAUSE I THINK
15:44:13 AMERICA IS AT ITS BEST WHEN WE'RE THERE FOR OUR FRIENDS AND
15:44:16 WE CERTAINLY ARE. RIGHT NOW YOU DESCRIBED -- YOU
15:44:20 SAID IT'S A STATIC SITUATION NOT A STABLE SITUATION.
15:44:24 SO LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT'S THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN
15:44:27 RIGHT NOW WITH THOSE REACTORS, AND WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT
15:44:33 COULD HAPPEN? I'M RELUCTANT TO SPECULATE ON
15:44:43 THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS
15:44:48 SOMETHING. WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
15:44:50 WHAT'S THE BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN, WHAT'S THE WORST?
15:44:52 WE ALL HOPE FOR THE BEST, BUT WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT CAN
15:44:55 HAPPEN? RIGHT NOW WHAT OUR FOCUS IS
15:45:00 ON IS THAT IT ENSURES TO PROVIDE OR THAT THE JAPANESE CAN
15:45:04 CONTINUE TO PROVIDE COOLING TO THE REACTOR AND WATER INTO THE
15:45:06 SPENT FUEL POOLS, AND THAT IS A PROCESS THAT IS WORKING RIGHT
15:45:13 NOW. AS I SAID, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
15:45:16 THE MOST STABLE CONFIGURATION. FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS AN
15:45:24 AFTERSHOCK LAST NIGHT, SO THEY HAD TO REMOVE SOME OF THE
15:45:27 INDIVIDUALS, THEY LOST SOME OF THE POWER, SO SOME OF THE PUMPS
15:45:31 THEY WERE USING WERE NOT ABLE TO WORK FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
15:45:35 WHAT WE WANT IS TO MOVE INTO A SITUATION WHERE THAT KIND OF
15:45:38 SITUATION WOULD BE DEALT WITH IN A MORE PREDICTABLE MANNER AND
15:45:43 LESS FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF THE LOSS OF THE COOLING SYSTEMS.
15:45:46 EVERY DAY THE REACTORS CONTINUE TO HAVE COOLING AND CONTINUE TO
15:45:55 RECEIVE WATER AND OTHER TYPES OF COOLING, THE LIKELIHOOD OF A
15:46:00 SIMILAR EVENT GOES DOWN. SO THE COOLING, OBVIOUSLY,
15:46:04 HERE IS KEY, AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT COULD GO WRONG, IN
15:46:07 YOUR MIND? THAT'S CORRECT.
15:46:12 THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS TO MAINTAIN COOLING.
15:46:15 IF YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO COOL THE REACTORS, THEN YOU HAVE THE
15:46:18 POSSIBILITY OF A FURTHER DEGRADATION IN THE FUEL WHICH
15:46:22 COULD LEAD TO A GREATER RELEASE THAN WHAT'S GOING ON.
15:46:25 IS A LEAK STILL GOING ON IN THE OCEAN?
15:46:27 WE BELIEVE NOW THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN STOPPED, BUT
15:46:30 THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE ARE OTHER LEAKS AND OTHER
15:46:34 MATERIAL BEING RELEASED. HOW RADIOACTIVE IS THAT
15:46:39 WATER? RIGHT NOW THE JAPANESE ARE
15:46:44 SURVEYING THE WATER THAT'S GOING OUT INTO THE OCEAN.
15:46:56 I HAVEN'T SEEN FIGURES OF THAT. WILL YOU LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH
15:47:00 CONTAMINATION IS FLOWING INTO THE OCEAN?
15:47:04 ABSOLUTELY. YOUR BOARD FOUND THAT EPA
15:47:09 FIXED MONITORS HAD A TAMPERING BIAS AGAINST LARGER PARTICLES,
15:47:14 WHICH COULD INCLUDE HOT PARTICLES.
15:47:16 HAVE YOU TAKEN ANY ACTIONS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS?
15:47:20 YES. YES, CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE.
15:47:22 THAT REPORT WAS DONE SEVERAL KWHEERZ AGO, AND SINCE THAT
15:47:25 REPORT WAS DONE, EPA RESPONDED TO DO AN ADDITIONAL STUDY ON THE
15:47:32 EFFICACY OF MONITORING EQUIPMENT IN CATCHING ALL SIZES OF
15:47:40 PARTICLES. THE REAL TRAUMATIC ONES ARE THE
15:47:42 SMALLER ONES, AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THROUGH THAT STUDY, OUR SIX
15:47:46 MONITORS CAN COLLECT THE VERY SMALLEST PARTICLES REASONABLY
15:47:51 EFFECTIVELY. I DO WANT TO SAY, HAVING NEWER
15:47:54 MONITORS, THERE ARE NEWER MONITORS OUT THERE THAT GET EVEN
15:47:56 GREATER CAPTURE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF THE SYSTEM,
15:47:59 WHICH IS TO GIVE BROAD LEVELS OF BACKGROUND FOR EVENTS THAT ARE
15:48:04 KNOWN, THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS CERTAINLY EFFECTIVE.
15:48:06 MY TIME IS EXPIRED, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO CHAIRMAN JASZKO,
15:48:14 I'VE GOT THESE TWO NUCLEAR PLANTS THAT WERE BUILT A VERY
15:48:16 LONG TIME AGO, AND NOW APPARENTLY PG&E AND CENTRAL
15:48:24 CALIFORNIA HAVE DROPPED THEIR RELICENSING PERSONALLY NOW.
15:48:30 I GUESS I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT -- AND NOBODY HAS TO
15:48:35 RESPOND TO THIS. I'M THINKING COMMON SENSE.
15:48:39 . YOU'VE GOT MORE THAT LIVE
15:48:49 WITHIN 50 MILES OF ONE OF MY CLIENTS AND ABOUT HALF THE
15:48:53 RADIUS THAT LIVE WITHIN 50 MILES OF THE OTHER.
15:48:55 ABOUT HALF OF THESE ARE NEAR EARTHQUAKE FAULTS.
15:48:59 SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO YOU AND THE OTHERS WHEN WE GET TO
15:49:02 SPEAK TO THEM, AND I THINK WE WILL, TO MY MIND, I THINK THE
15:49:06 COMMISSION WHEN YOU'RE RELICENSING, HAS TO LOOK AT THIS
15:49:09 AS THOUGH IT'S A NEW OPPORTUNITY.
15:49:11 WOULD YOU LICENSE A PLANT THAT CAME TO YOU NOW WITH THAT
15:49:15 CIRCUMSTANCE RIGHT BY OR NEAR EARTHQUAKE FAULTS, STUDIES THAT
15:49:20 IS THERE WILL BE MORE FREQUENT EARTHQUAKES AND BOTH INVOLVE
15:49:27 TSUNAMIS THOUGH ONE IS THE MORE VULNERABLE.
15:49:31 I JUST HOPE THAT YOU -- AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO THINK LOPG
15:49:41 A AND HARD ABOUT THIS, BUT IF YOU
15:49:42 WOULD SAY NO TO A NEW OPERATOR, I HOPE YOU'LL THINK ABOUT HOW IT
15:49:47 MAKES ANY SENSE TO JUST KEEP ON GOING.
15:49:50 UNLESS THERE IS A MAJOR REINFORCEMENT AND HARDENING OF
15:49:55 SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THE REST.
15:49:57 SO I JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THAT THOUGHT THAT THOSE ARE MY
15:50:01 CONCERNS. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
15:50:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:50:07 I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU BEING HERE TODAY AND CHAIRMAN I
15:50:12 APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'VE BEEN AVAILABLE TO ME, VISITING BY
15:50:15 OFFICE AND ADDRESSING THESE VARIOUS CONCERNS THAT ARE
15:50:18 CRITICAL, QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO
15:50:23 BE ANSWERED. I NOTICED LAST WEEK THE
15:50:25 CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION CONCLUDED THAT A NUCLEAR
15:50:28 EMERGENCY SUCH AS IS OCCURRING IN JAPAN IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY
15:50:32 AT THE STATE'S TWO OPERATING NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS.
15:50:34 WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION'S
15:50:38 CONCLUSION? WE THINK IT'S VERY UNLIKELY
15:50:41 TO SEE A LARGE EARTHQUAKE AND A TSUNAMI.
15:50:44 THEY WENT ON TO SAY, THE COMBINATION OF A STRONG GROUND
15:50:46 MOTION AND MASSIVE TSUNAMI THAT OCCURRED IN JAPAN CAN'T BE
15:50:50 GENERATED BY THE KINDS OF FAULTS THAT EXIST IN THE VICINITY OF
15:50:54 THE TWO PLANTS IN NUCLEAR PLANTS IN CALIFORNIA.
15:50:57 YOU AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THERE?
15:50:59 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE TYPE OF FAULT IN JAPAN WAS A
15:51:02 DIFFERENT TYPE OF FAULT THAT DOESN'T EXIST OFF THE COAST OF
15:51:08 CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU.
15:51:09 I MENTIONED IN MY OPENING STATEMENT THAT ON APRIL 6th,
15:51:16 ACTIVIST, STRENGTHEN AND OVERSIGHT ON URANIAN RECOVERY
15:51:22 AND I NOTICED HOW THEY ARE USING THAT IN JAPAN WHEN APPROVING
15:51:29 URANIAN MINES DOMESTICALLY IN THE UNITED STATES.
15:51:31 DO YOU SEE A CONNECTION WITH THE URANIAN MINING IN THE UNITED
15:51:39 STATES? NO DIRECT CONNECTIONS.
15:51:41 THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN WE LAST
15:51:44 HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT MY OFFICE, I DISCUSSED MY CONCERNS
15:51:48 ABOUT THE DELAY IN APPROVING PERMITS FOR URANIAN MINES AND
15:51:56 YOU MENTIONED THE DELAY WAS WORKING THINGS OUT WITH THE EPA
15:51:59 AND WE FINALLY ACHIEVED THE RESOLUTION NECESSARY.
15:52:02 YOU THOUGHT YOU NOW HAD A TEMPLATE TO MOVE FORWARD
15:52:06 APPROVING ADDITIONAL MINES. DO YOU BELIEVE YOU WORKED OUT OF
15:52:13 THOSE ISSUES SO WE CAN NOW PROCEED WITH A FASTER PERMITTING
15:52:17 PROCESS? I BELIEVE WE WORKED OUT --
15:52:18 COME TO A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE DEAL WITH OUR
15:52:21 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS. WE ARE, HOWEVER, CONTINUING TO
15:52:25 WORK THROUGH ISSUES THAT ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER TWO
15:52:30 CONSULT WITH TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS AS PART OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS
15:52:35 AND THAT IS THE LAST ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WE
15:52:39 FINALIZE OUR EFFORTS ON THESE URANIAN RECOVERY OPERATIONS.
15:52:46 ADMINISTRATOR, YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND ANY ISSUES
15:52:52 IN A TIMELY MANNER. I REMAIN COMMITTED TO RESOLVE
15:52:57 ANY ISSUES WE MIGHT HAVE WITH RESPECT TO WYOMING.
15:53:00 I DON'T BELIEVE THE ARTICLE REFERENCED SITES IN WYOMING.
15:53:03 THE OVERALL APPROVAL. THANK YOU.
15:53:08 I WANTED TO GET BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THE NRC RESPONSE
15:53:13 IN JAPAN AND YOU HAVE 250 STAFF BOTH FUNCTION S AND WORKING HARD
15:53:19 ON THIS. GIVEN THE COMMITMENT TO THE
15:53:21 RESOURCES TO JAPAN, IF WE HAD ANY SORT OF EMERGENCY IN THE
15:53:25 UNITED STATES, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO REDEPLOY IN A WAY WE WOULD
15:53:28 NOT PUT OURSELVES IN A DISADVANTAGE?
15:53:31 ABSOLUTELY. AS THIS EVENT HAS GONE FORWARD
15:53:33 WE HAVE LOOKED AT OUR STAFFING LEVELS AND ACTUALLY WE'VE
15:53:37 TRANSITIONED OUR APPROACH TO THE STAFF IN OUR OPERATIONS CENTER
15:53:40 TO HAVE A SMALLER TEAM THERE WHO CAN RESPOND QUICKLY BUT THEN
15:53:44 WOULD REACH BACK TO OUR LARGER AGENCY TO GET INFORMATION
15:53:48 REQUESTS AS THEY NEED. IT ALLOWS US TO RESPOND BUT IN
15:53:53 AWAY THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR OTHER IMPORTANT
15:53:58 RESPONSIBILITIES. SENATOR INHOFE RAISED THE
15:54:00 ISSUE ABOUT YOU INVOKING AN EMERGENCY POWERS AS A RESULT OF
15:54:03 THIS. COULD YOU DESCRIBE TO ME HOW YOU
15:54:06 INTERACTED WITH YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DURING THIS
15:54:11 NUCLEAR INCIDENT AND HOW YOU RELIED ON THEM ON MAKING
15:54:15 DECISIONS AS WELL? THERE'S NOT SO MUCH INVOKING
15:54:20 OF THE EMERGENCY AUTHORITIES. THAT'S AN AUTHORITY THAT THE
15:54:23 CHAIRMAN HAS. MOST OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT I'M
15:54:25 ENGAGED IN AS PART OF THIS RESPONSE HAVE BEEN NORMAL SUPER
15:54:32 ADVISORY AND COMMUNICATION RESPONSIBILITIES.
15:54:35 I WOULD NOTE AND WE CAN PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION FOR THE RECORD,
15:54:39 BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE ENTERED OUR MONITORING MODE ON MARCH
15:54:43 11th. AN E-MAIL WAS SENT DOWN
15:54:45 INDICATING WE HAD DONE THAT. WITHIN THE FIRST 24 HOURS WE HAD
15:54:49 FOUR BRIEFINGS OF THE ASSISTANCE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
15:54:54 OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I'VE DONE AT LEAST 26 BRIEFINGS
15:54:57 TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMISSION, INCLUDING ONE PUBLIC
15:55:00 COMMISSION MEETING THAT WAS HELD ABOUT A WEEK AFTER THE EVENT
15:55:06 STARTED. THERE'S BEEN ABOUT OVERALL,
15:55:08 ABOUT 60 BRIEFINGS TO STAFF OF THE COMMISSION ASSISTANCE AND
15:55:13 ABOUT 80 PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION
15:55:15 INDICATING THE STATUS TO THE RESPONSE EFFORTS AND ACTIVITIES
15:55:18 THAT ARE ONGOING. I THINK THERE'S BEEN GOOD
15:55:20 COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
15:55:22 DOING AND HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH RESPONSE.
15:55:24 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MISS CHAIRMAN, AS A POINT OF
15:55:29 PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AS THE SENATOR MENTIONED, THE PLANTS IN
15:55:32 MY STATE, I APPRECIATE HIS CONCERN.
15:55:34 LET ME PUT INTO THE RECORD TWO LETTERS BY THE CALIFORNIA
15:55:40 COASTAL COMMISSION, THEY WANT NEW EARTHQUAKE STUDIES, NUMBER
15:55:45 ONE. NUMBER TWO, WHAT MY FRIENDS SAID
15:55:47 ABOUT THE FACT IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY WE WOULD HAVE SUCH AN
15:55:50 ACCIDENT IN CALIFORNIA ABSOLUTELY VERY UNLIKELY.
15:55:54 IT'S UNLIKELY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID
15:55:56 ABOUT JAPAN. TO THE WORD.
15:55:59 SO WE'VE GOT TO MOVE BEYOND TALK.
15:56:04 AND GET TO THIS SERIOUS QUESTION OF WHAT DO WE DO TO DO
15:56:07 EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE IT SAFE.
15:56:09 IS THERE AN OBJECTION TO THE UNANIMOUS REQUEST?
15:56:13 SO ORDERED. MY FIRST QUESTION OF THE
15:56:19 CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO QUOTE ALBERT IN STEEN,
15:56:27 IN ADVERSITY LIES OPPORTUNITY. WHEN ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS
15:56:31 THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN FOLLOWING UP ON THIS TRAGEDY?
15:56:34 ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN, WE WOULDN'T LEARN
15:56:37 ANYTHING FROM IT. THAT'S ONE OF WORST THINGS THAT
15:56:39 COULD HAPPEN. WE HAVE HAD NOT A WHOLE LOT OF
15:56:43 TIME BUT SOME TIME HAS PASSED SINCE THIS SAD CHAPTER BEGAN
15:56:48 UNFOLDING. TALK TO US ABOUT THE LESSONS WE
15:56:50 HAVE LEARNED IN THE PAST WEEKS. AND LET'S -- MAYBE THAT WOULD
15:56:57 SUGGEST THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS APPROPRIATE, GOOD, SMART, SAFE
15:57:00 AND MAYBE SOME THINGS WE LEARNED THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
15:57:04 I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE REALLY COME TO RECOGNIZE
15:57:09 IS THAT THE STATION EVENT IS A VERY SERIOUS EVENT.
15:57:12 THE GOOD ASPECT IS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT IS A VERY
15:57:15 SERIOUS TYPE OF EVENT AND TYPE OF SITUATION WHICH YOU LOSE THE
15:57:19 ABILITY TO HAVE ELECTRICAL POWER TO THE SITE.
15:57:22 FUNDAMENTALLY WE THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF THE
15:57:26 PROBLEM. WHAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING TO
15:57:28 ESTABLISH IS WHY EXACTLY THEY GOT INTO THE STATION WITH THE
15:57:31 STATION BLACKOUT AND WHAT WERE THE LEAD FACTORS AFFECTING THAT.
15:57:39 I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE IMPORTANCE OF EMERGENCY PLANNING
15:57:40 IN HAVING THE ABILITY TO RESPOND AND PROVIDE EMERGENCY GUIDANCE
15:57:45 TO THE POPULATION AROUND THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT AND WE'VE
15:57:51 SEEN THAT THAT -- CARRIES OUT ITS INTENDED FUNCTION, IT MOVES
15:57:55 PEOPLE OUT OF AN AREA THEY CAN BE EXPOSED TO HARMFUL LEVELS OF
15:58:00 RADIATION. IF WE LOOK AT THE KINDS OF
15:58:02 THINGS WE'VE SEEN RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE THE BIG LESSONS WE'VE
15:58:07 LEARNED. WE HAVE THIS 90-DAY TASK FORCE
15:58:09 THAT WILL LOOK AT VERY SPECIFIC THINGS IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS,
15:58:12 TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR IN
15:58:15 FRONT OF THE WORK THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE THEY PUT TOGETHER
15:58:19 TALENTED PEOPLE AT THE AGENCY. WE'RE GOING TO DO A GOOD
15:58:21 THOROUGH LOOK. I WANT THEM TO START GIVING THE
15:58:25 ANSWERS THAT THEY HEAR ME SAY AT A HEARING.
15:58:28 I THINK THAT IF THERE'S ANY ONE OTHER LESSON WE'VE LEARNED,
15:58:32 AFTER THREE MILE ISLAND, WE LEARNED IT IS IMPORTANT TO GO
15:58:37 ABOUT THIS KIND OF REVIEW IN A SYSTEM BEING AND METHOD
15:58:41 CALLAWAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
15:58:43 THAT WILL BE THE CONTINUED FOCUS I HAVE WITH THE AGENCY.
15:58:46 BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT IN PLACE THE KIND OF CHANGES
15:58:51 THAT MAKE SAFETY BETTER AND NOT THE KIND OF CHANGES THAT IN THE
15:58:56 END WIND UP UNDERMINING SAFETY. I T