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INTERVIEW BEGINS: David Susskind And now to talk about disco and their own Saturday night fevers. I'd like you to meet my guests first. Victor Medina works in a paint store as a salesman. Carmen Pisani is a hairdresser. Jody Oliver is a professional actress. Gene Robinson works as a delivery man. Chuck Rusinak is a DJ at the 2001 Odyssey disco. Susan Rainone is a perfume salesperson, salesperson I like that. Diane Ludwig is a senior in high school. And finally Alex Marchak is studying to be a mortician. All of you are in the movie Saturday Night Fever so I take your victims of it. Yes. What? What is that fever what happens on Saturday night in that kind of place? Gene Robinson Well, Sunday night you just can't wait to get out. Alex Marchak You want to release your energy? David Susskind The energy that's been pent up all week. Because your jobs are boring. Alex Marchak Just life. let it out like some people, some people snort coke and some people, you know, some people like to just Just Dance, David Susskind party dance, party dance. Victor Medina There's been times I mean store and put on radio and paint store. I dance right there. Some big thing to me when I go over somebody else's house like if I go to their house I say, Let's get together, see if we could get some new turns. Relax David Susskind when you're in a disco and the music is going in the lights and all of that stuff. Are you transported? Are you no longer a paint salesman? Jody Oliver You forget about anything and everything David Susskind You do? Forget it. Victor Medina I'm dancing. The same way, he's a DJ, he's a light man. on the floor? Jody Oliver You're in your own world? Do you just let all your emotions go and you pour everything into your dancing and you project an exhibit yourself to the best way you can while you're on that dance floor. While you hear that music? Gene Robinson Surely build yourself up. You only want to show people you can do and you will have fun when you hear that music. Everybody is in their own mind. David Susskind Do you go alone? Or do you go as couples? You go as a couple once a week, twice a week? Alex Marchak Well, it depends what you know. Depends what kind of mood she's in or David Susskind which one are you talking about. Oh that's your couple, right? Diane Ludwig Just depends if we have other things to do. We'll step down the Odyssey later and dance. We go to the movies we go out to eat first. Whatever's going on in town we might go see that most of the time. At the end of the night. We went up in the Odyssey dancing, we meet our friends there. And it's very comfortable atmosphere there. Jody Oliver usually Friday nights or like single nights clubs and Saturday nights a couple nights. David Susskind Oh, wait a second. You as a couple. Would you leave her home on a Friday night? Are you a couple? Victor Medina I'm a couple and I think I would leave a home on a Friday. David Susskind Is that the other piece? Victor Medina That's my parter. That's my one and only David Susskind Wait a minute. you leave her home Friday is why. Victor Medina Friday to me. He's a solo night Carmen Pisani Friday is his night. If I want to go out I go out. But I go to school all week long. Victor Medina She wants to wait for me. David Susskind She wants to wait for you? I know you're living another age. When you know he's out at the disco on Friday. You're sitting there sewing twiddling your thumbs are you out having a good time Victor Medina I think she falls asleep Carmen Pisani Either I fall asleep my house is like a disco David Susskind are you jealous? Carmen Pisani No. I used to. Forget it. David Susskind used to get jealous. You'd be through. You take her what night? Victor Medina Saturday night. I'd say a couple night. Sport night David Susskind I saw the dancing at the beginning of the show that you did. And the other couples and it's very sensual. very sexual. Alex Marchak Its pride pride pride the way you look for it the way you know the way you look. Your appearence who dress Diane Ludwig It's a competition I think it's like one couple wants to try and do better than the next couple you want to practice you want to do you know the best you can on the dance floor you want other people to look to and say hey, that guy's good dancer. David Susskind Chuck Rusinak, talk about it. I mean, do you feel a kind of euphoria out there Chuck Rusinak Well I'm in a different position because on the being the DJ. I'm more or less taking it all in. And rather than being a part of it, you know, at the end of the night, I get on the floor myself David Susskind He's a judge. You learn what? Victor Medina Just from watching the people alone. Dancing David Susskind You learn what other stuff? Oh, I see you learn other steps you don't learn about other people's characters. Personality. Victor Medina Just you can learn that step. Once you got it in you just look and you wouldn't have to go to any of these dance studios. I know I never did David Susskind about it sensuality. Do you get heated up? I mean, do you think at the end of the evening? Yeah. I'm I'm ready to take this girl home if I if I knew where home was Gene Robinson always a challenge. You build yourself up with all that confidence to sweep a girl off her feet. You're always trying to show David Susskind Well, when you twirl her around, Bender over and right. When do you know you own her? Gene Robinson Just about when she's real close to you David Susskind when she meets you every week. Victor Medina She'll call you up and tell you I am I gonna be at the club this weekend. Come down. I'll say Yeah, maybe. And find me today I'll go with somebody else. David Susskind Boy you're cruel. Gloria Steinem. Your using them as a sex item? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The other half of your couples says Yeah. How long does it take you to prepare for the evening? Gene Robinson It takes me about an hour, an hour all week I can't wait till Friday comes or Saturday. When Saturday comes. Once you get in there Victor Medina Sometimes it takes me all day David Susskind all day? Victor Medina all day to get ready, go shoping. wash the car. David Susskind Shop for what? Victor Medina clothes for shoes, whatever. That's what mostly I spend my money on. Clothes. Yeah. David Susskind So you're shopping for shoes, right? Then you're doing polishing the car Victor Medina polishing the car making that Saturday, Friday. Right? Make it look clean. It's been turned. That's what he spends his day or we would call him up and say, Where's Alex? Alex would wax in the car. Right? Alex Marchak That's one thing in the movie that I was really dissatisfied about the way he was such you know, a superstar like, you know, Travolta was a Disco King. I think he should have had, you know, he should have had a nice car. So, you know, you know, parading down like, Well, we do 86 stree where all foxes, you know, on a Saturday afternoon are all thrown back and forth. You know, that was like, anybody who talked from Brooklyn. So the way it is, I mean, a Saturday actually going down and checking out the girls for the night. So when they go to the club at night, they say that's the girl and so on 86th street they will move into a niche so like that, you know, the way it was not like the way it was a Hollywood movie the way it was? Wasn't really true. Diane Ludwig I think the guys take a lot of pride in their cars. I think even like as much as their dressing. I know. He spends most of his day waxing his car, you ride down the blocks and there they all are out with the polish on the car. Really, it's like getting as though they were getting dressed. They have to dress their car also. David Susskind In other words before the dance before the night come you are going up and down the avenue. Alex Marchak No not me Friends, you know David Susskind I mean your car and you Alex Marchak Yeah my car? Yeah. Well the other guys cars David Susskind your other women parading up and down? Alex Marchak Well, the parading in a sense going through stores buying things you know, and you checking them out. David Susskind But you got a girl? Alex Marchak I'm not saying me. That's the act of Bensonhurst or Bayridge or 86 street. That's what's going on? that's the true. You know the true scene. Not the Hollywood Scene. David Susskind What about the women? How much preparation? Are you beauty parlor? Are you getting? Carmen Pisani No Just whatever you have or get something new. Just stay home fixing your hair. getting ready to go out Jody Oliver yeah, usually takes me about two hours to get ready for only the time it takes David Susskind Wait a minute. why does it take you two hours. What are you doing? Jody Oliver I have to dry my hair. I don't use a blower. I just let it dry naturally. Right. So it takes like two hours before it's dry. David Susskind Then the eyes. the mascara Jody Oliver getting ready takes me like 15 minutes, just the hair Victor Medina Like my girlfriend would get dressed and take about three or four hours. Let's say this only takes what man 20 minutes to get dressed, shower, shave whatever you had to do. And you'd be waiting around the suit beyond and we'd be sweating. By the end of the day you will sweat it up ready to go into the disco old sweat it up. You know feel right? We go into disco. When you go into a disco you want to feel fresh? You've started from the beginning. David Susskind Right? How many hours do you put in? What time you get there? Victor Medina You get there about 10. Right? And I would stay the longest I could. If it would go on to the next day I think I would stay Alex Marchak The later it gets the more the more active. You can get like mean by three four in the morning. Chuck's got a turn the music off whatever and everybody just hit turn the music off. Victor Medina But the music has been happy times when you know a lot of people stood late and they say come on Chuck just keep playing it. Yeah, everybody get to Jody Oliver Yeah it's surpring though. The crowd seems to get much larger around one or two in the morning at a disco. I mean like 10 o'clock you walk into places empty at one o'clock all of a sudden you have mobs you know mobs coming in, and it's much it's packed. You can't move on the dance floor. It's a pleasure to dance earlier, but a lot more difficult to dance later on. Gene Robinson The combination of like people going out more enthusiastic the crowd is the better it's gonna be. David Susskind Is it true that most of you live at home? No, you have your own place. Yes, . You live at home, you Victor Medina No I live by myself. Carmen Pisani I live with my mother David Susskind You live with your mother Carmen Pisani sisters and brother. David Susskind What is their attitude toward your creeping in exhausted four or five in the morning? Carmen Pisani It don't bother them as long as I'm alright. Victor Medina You got the good excuse. Well, they were they know that she's with a good man Jody Oliver I know when I left home I used to have one o'clock curfew. a one o'clock curfew when I lived home. So I moved out because nothing ever happened till one o'clock. Jody Oliver I have a very early curfew also David Susskind you're in high school. Diane Ludwig Right And my father's quite strict on that he gives me all the curfews, but I still can't say that I don't enjoy it. I still have very good time. Even if I have to be home one two o'clock. I enjoy it just as much as I would if I had to stay later David Susskind But he only springs in the Real Glory at three, four. No, no, I Diane Ludwig No, no, I wouldn't say that. I I think we have a good time all night. I wouldn't say that, you know, places dead until three, four. I think all night. We have very good time. What time we leave. Well, you know, it doesn't really matter. Because you could still enjoy yourself. Even if you have to be home at one two o'clock. David Susskind Susan, are you with us? Okay, yes. You agree with me this? Are you living at home alone? Susan Rainone No I'm living at home David Susskind You're living at home? Wouldn't it be better? How old are you? Susan Rainone 20 David Susskind Oh, when do you intend to open your own establishment? I mean, have a place of your own. While you're here right now. I see he has a place of his own. No. You live at home too. Chuck Rusinak Yes, currently? I've been in that house. I've had my own apartment. David Susskind Right? Aren't you a little old? You live in a home? Well, you like it at home. good cooking Diane Ludwig I don't think You really have to put on an age on what age you should not be living home anymore. I don't see anything wrong with living at home. No, I don't think there's much of a difference. All right. So you might get a curfew. When you're old enough. You don't get a car curfew. So I've been homeless, you have problems with somewhere else. Victor Medina That would be a problem with the family. Like I have older brothers and they never gotten along with them. So I just went out on my own. And now they're following me. I'm the youngest. Alex Marchak And it's like a lot of parents got bad attitudes towards disco. you know, they think it's like, just like drugs. David Susskind Well is it Alex Marchak you know? It's no, it's no, it's not. David Susskind Are there drugs. Diane Ludwig There's drugs anywhere you go today David Susskind Are people sniffing cocaine. Gene Robinson No, not in our place. David Susskind Smoking refer Victor Medina outside and when they come in like they they're a little whacked out we try to throw them out. Even I would try to throw them out. I don't even work there. And I don't want any hassles against them. Because they would figure is a good couple on the dance floor, let me try to rap to the girl. There would be a fight going on. They don't look like David Susskind so actually, there's very little dope of any kind Alex Marchak Yeah, the Odyssey at the at the Odyssey, David Susskind which is your palace. Victor Medina Right? Come here and say we're taking over No. Okay. I mean, just because we dance, we're not fags. No, we're there. We're gonna protect the place David Susskind Disco dancing and Disco records have a style all their Own. Now what makes a good disco record? Good beat. Good beat. Gene Robinson Good disco record the combination of like, background music, like guitar like bass. Enough that everybody's gonna enjoy it. When is the right word? David Susskind What are samples of some real top disposed songs at the moment? Jody Oliver Well, I think everything from the movie from Saturday Night Fever, the whole entire soundtrack. Oh, well, I think it's very hot. As far as young people go Alex Marchak bionic Boogie risky changes. Diane Ludwig Songs something you could dance to they have fast be fast enough to dance to. They have words that are catchy and slowly catches on. David Susskind How would you answer the charge that all that disco music is kind of monotonous? Because it all sounds kind of the same? No, no, Chuck Rusinak it's not. It's not when I cue records, meaning I go from one record to another. I do my homework I do I use a metronome and I tempo out the beats and so on. It's all different. Like you have 90 beats to a record up to 130 beats to record. It varies. We have some slow disco and fast disco domestic European discos is very big now music machine Gene Robinson It only sounds the same to people that don't understand music. You know, people don't like classical music, but to them it all sounds the same but they don't understand the meaning what the song is about actually David Susskind right now let's talk about the chuck You could use the analogy between that and let's say a parent telling the child and all that rock sounds the same but the child you know the round the Rock sounds different. David Susskind Alright, let's talk about the dancing. The steps change who invents the steps? Alex Marchak by accident, you're fooling around. And you could just do something like that look sharp like, you David Susskind know, you're fooling around the funeral parlor. No, right? Victor Medina No at the Odyssey, well we fool around like on a Wednesday night, we'll go dance, hang out practice. All of us Diane Ludwig Pick up steps from other people. You watch other people dancing. You like that turns you sort of work it into your dance, right? Victor Medina Its all the same steps. Seven steps, seven steps seven. basic steps, your company's do your own thing, which your body was turning wise, David Susskind can you show us the seven steps if I take your mic off? Victor Medina Not me. Chuck can do it David Susskind Chuck. show us the seven basic steps. Oh you need her to Okay, take your mic off
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION PT. 5 (1988)
B-ROLL OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION WITH SPEAKERS SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN, ACTOR TOM SELLECK, AND FIRST LADY NANCY REAGAN.
(HZ) China Outdoors - China's growing middle class enjoys a ramble in the countryside
NAME: CHN OUTDOORS 20060703HZflat TAPE: EF06/0595 IN_TIME: 10:33:23:17 DURATION: 00:04:55:13 SOURCES: AP TELEVISION DATELINE: Nr. Beijing RESTRICTIONS: SHOTLIST 1. Medium to wide of hikers walking through orchard 2. Wide of hikers on Great Wall 3. Medium of boots walking by 4. Wide of steep hike up Great Wall 5. Medium people walking out of Great Wall tower 6. SOUNDBITE : (Mandarin), Ma Yue, Hike Leader "A tour guide wouldn't take you on this trail. Because, the guide wouldn't be able to handle the hike, he would get too tired. They would take you to visit a park. But this is our own plan, our own group of people, and we found this site ourselves. That's one of the best things about our approach. " 7. Various of Ma Yue 8. Medium hikers climbing Great Wall 9. SOUNDBITE: (Mandarin), Qiao Ao, Student "Today, I was feeling like, even though the seasoned hikers on the trip thought it was an easy hike, I was extremely tired. The first few minutes when I started climbing, I was sweating like crazy." 10. Medium hiker adjusting gear 11. Wide person abseiling down a dam 12. SOUNDBITE: (Mandarin), Zhao Zhen, Software engineer "The traditional Chinese way is, not to go out like this. They like to stay inside, at home." 13. Medium Zhao Zhen picking fruit 14. Medium Zhao Zhen taking photo of friend on great wall 15. SOUNDBITE (Mandarin), Qin Yan, Minerals trader "It allows people who don't know each other, and who are in every profession, and love the outdoors, to get together, and make friends." 16. Medium of Qin Yan and Ma Yue on the bus 17. Close screen shot of Luye website 18. Medium of Hai Guang and colleague at work 19. SOUNDBITE : (Mandarin), Hai Guang, founder of Luye website (organises hiking trips) "Trip organisers use the site to make plans. They rarely use the phone, or had meetings, they all use our site to send out a plan, and everyone who wants to, participates." 20. Medium Hai Guang, walking across office 21. Medium Hai Guang pointing at map of China 22. Close to Medium of horse rider on computer screen Hai Guang looking at computer screen 23. Shot of picture of Luye member on top of Mt. Everest 24. Close old man peasant working on a stick 25. SOUNDBITE : (Mandarin) Hai Guang, founder of Luye website (organises hiking trips) "When they were young, the atmosphere in Chinese society was one of hardship. It was very backwards, so none of these activities existed in our society." 26. Medium Zhang Heng climbing up climbing wall 27. Wide pan from big Beijing buildings to front of San Fu shop 28. SOUNDBITE : (Mandarin) Zhang Heng, Owner of San Fu sporting goods shop "Ten years ago my shop was in a back alley and we only had 20 square meters of space." 29. Wide pan of shop floor 30. Medium-close walk by of shoe rack 31. Close pan-up of climbing gear 32. SOUNDBITE : (Mandarin) Zhang Heng, Owner of San Fu sporting goods shop "In fact, 70 percent of the foreign-branded goods that we sell are manufactured in China. Only a small percentage are imported." 33. Medium hikers talking to farmer 34. Medium hikers cleaning up bottles 34. SOUNDBITE : (Mandarin), Qin Yan, Hike Leader "We make a few cents for every bottle we bring back to the city. If during every trip, each person brings back a couple of bottles, when we get back, we can make a few yuan. And if we save that up, after a lot of trips, we can send a young person from the remote mountain regions to school." 35. Medium hiker picking up bottle out of a bush 36. Medium of Zhang Heng holding a boot in his store 37. Wide of hikers on the Great Wall LEAD IN: China's booming economy has created a new class of affluent young people who work hard and want to relax away from the stresses of city life at the weekend. Many have discovered that the best remedy is a brisk walk in the fresh air with a group of friends. These internet savvy walkers organise their trips online, gathering in remote locations for exercise and as a way to meet like minded people. STORYLINE: Like many young professionals tied to city jobs, these Beijing residents are delighted to escape the confines of the capital for a challenging country walk. This is a little known stretch of the China's Great Wall, on the outskirts of Beijing, making it the perfect daytrip. These hikers are among China's growing, white-collar workforce, they spend most days behind their desks in office buildings. On the weekends, they are eager to get out of the city and join China's fast growing outdoor sports craze. Ma Yue helped organise this trip. He's better known by his fellow hikers as "Shandi Qishi" or "Mountain Biker," his Internet nickname. He says that self-organised hikes mean you can visit places where the travel guides never bring tourists. This is Qiao Ao, first excursion and she says she found it very gruelling. As China's economy continues to grow, more and more, young Beijingers have the time, money, and desire to get close to nature. But outdoor sports is a fairly new concept in China. Less than a decade ago, few Chinese people even considered hiking a form of recreation. Zhao Zhen is a single, twenty-something, software developer. On weekend hikes, he's "Gudu Haixia" or "Lonely Shrimp," another Internet nickname. He says that his parents' generation would never have considered walking as a way to relax. Qin Yan's Internet name is "Wo Ai Ji Wa Wa--I Love Chihuahuas." She organised the trip with Mountain Biker (Ma Yue), whom she met on a similar trip, and is now her fiance. Qin Yuan says it's a great way to meet people. They organised the excursion through a website called "Luye" or "Green and Wild", which was started in 1999 by a hiker and techie called Hai Guang. Hai Guang says the internet makes organising lots of people very easy, you just post the details and people turn up. The site has over 70,000 members, who go on over 40 trips, from hiking and skiing to horseback riding, every single weekend in provinces all over China. Hai sells ads on the site to keep the service free of charge, and make it accessible to more members. He says poverty was the main reason his parents' generation missed out on outdoor sports. The interest in outdoor pursuits has brought financial rewards to some entrepreneurs... Zhang Heng is the owner of San Fu sporting goods shop, he says that a decade ago, his shop struggled to survive. Over the past ten years Zhang has turned his passion for hiking into a thriving business. But thanks to the boom in popularity of outdoor pursuits he now owns China's largest chain of sporting goods stores. From those humble beginnings Zhang's business has boomed at the same fast pace as China's economy. He has a handful of outlets in Beijing and Shanghai, as well as cities across China. Zhang says his business has also been helped by the fact that much of the world's supply of outdoor equipment is now manufactured in China. But doing business is the last thing on the minds of these hikers on this Saturday. In fact, on top of getting a workout, they are also doing community service. Great Wall trip leader Qin Yan picks up plastic bottles as she goes. In addition to keeping the countryside litter free, Qin says that for every bottle they bring back to the city they earn a few yuan, which goes into a fund to pay for the education of a child in a remote village. During the past half century in China, even people's leisure time was regulated by government-run work units. Now young people are organising their own weekend adventures, and discovering a new freedom--and a new sense of responsibility--in the great outdoors.
1970S TELEVISION SHOWS
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RUSSELL, JR. 23203 CHICAGO (T) 11/04/73 PART I: IS HE IRRITABLE, TIRED, AND IMPOTENT? -- MAYBE IT'S MALE MENOPAUSE DR. HAROLD LEAR, DR. DAVID REED, DR. DAVID MCWHIRTER, DR. HERBERT S. KUPPERMAN, DR. ISADORE ROSSMAN 23210 11/04/73 PART II: GORE VIDAL ON THE NIXON MESS 23210 11/11/73 MARILYN MONROE: THE LIFE AND DEATH OF A SEX GODDESS -- 5 OF HER CLOSEST FRIENDS INCLUDING ELI WALLACH & JOSHUA LOGAN ELI WALLACH, JOSHUA LOGAN, NORMAN ROSTEN, AMY AND MILTON GREENE 23207 11/18/73 07/21/74 "DID YOU HEAR THE ONE ABOUT...?" -- LOTSA LAUGHS WITH 6 COMEDIANS FREDDIE ROMAN, VIC ARNELL, DICK LORD, DICK CAPRI, JACK EAGLE, MICKEY MANNERS 23209 CHICAGO, DC 11/25/73 PART I: WORLD'S GREATEST JEWEL THIEF ALBIE BAKER 23211 DC 11/25/73 PART II: ARE BLACKS INFERIOR TO WHITES? -- DR. WILLIAM SHOCKLEY & DR. ALVIN POUSSAINT 23211 CHICAGO, DC 12/02/73 WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO SPIRO AGNEW? FRANK VAN DER LINDEN, ROY COHN, PETE HAMILL, JAMES NAUGHTON, JULES WITCOVER, WILLIAM RUSHER 23215 12/09/73 PART I: CONFESSIONS OF A CROOKED COP WILLIAM PHILLIPS 23216 12/09/73 PART II: ANGRY AIRLINE HOSTESSES KAREN EITELBERG, LIZ RICH, CYNTHIA GLACKEN, LYNN SMYDEN, SANDY OSIP 23216 12/16/73 PART I: THE BIG STEAL: SHOPLIFTING BILL LANDRES, JACK BOGASKY, SANDI SUTTON, GEORGE GORRA, ROY MCPOLAND, PETER TRIER 23217 CHICAGO 12/16/73 02/03/74 07/14/74 PART II: CLIVE BARNES -- DRAMA CRITIC, THE NEW YORK TIMES 23217 CHICAGO 12/23/73 PART I: SINGLES SING THE BLUES BUNNY BERKE, IRVING GRUBER, GLORIA BENTLEY, SOL RICHFIELD, BARBARA LEWIS, SCOTT WARNER 23213 DC 12/23/73 PART II: "THE SINGLES BUSINESS" NIC CHRISTOFF, KENNETH ENOCHS, HY STEIRMAN 23213 DC 12/30/73 PART I: SEEN ANY FLYING SAUCERS LATELY? -- THE UFO CONTROVERSY STANTON FRIEDMAN, BETTY HILL, JOHN HEALEY, JOHN FULLER, PHILIP KLASS 23212 12/30/73 PART II: TOP STUDENTS FROM LEADING LAW SCHOOLS 23212 01/06/74 WOULD YOU SLEEP BETTER WITH A FORD IN THE WHITE HOUSE? CONGRESSMAN LAWRENCE J. HOGAN, CONGRESSMAN ELFORD A. CEDERBERG, CONGRESSMAN JOHN CONYERS, JR., JOSEPH L. RAUH, JR., KIERAN O'DOHERTY 23221 CHICAGO 01/06/74 PART II: JESSICA MITFORD 23221 01/13/74 A CONVERSATION WITH DICK CAVETT 23223 CHICAGO 01/20/74 07/07/74 PART I: GIVE 'EM HELL HARRY -- THE TRUMAN NOBODY KNEW MERLE MILLER, ROBERT ALAN AURTHUR 23220 CHICAGO 01/20/74 07/07/74 PART II: THE VITAMIN CRAZE GARY NULL, DR. EMANUAL CHERASKIN, DR. VICTOR HERBERT, MARCELLA KATZ 23220 CHICAGO 01/27/74 THE BEAUTY BUSINESS -- BILLION DOLLAR RIP-OFF? DR. EARLE BRAUER, LINDA SCHOEN, SHIRLEY LORD, BRENDA JOHNSON, DR. JAMES LEYDEN 23214 02/03/74 07/14/74 PART I: WOULD YOU WANT YOUR DAUGHTER TO BE A PRIEST? -- ANGRY WOMEN VERSUS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FATHER WILLIAM B. SMITH, DR. WILLIAM MARRA, THERESE ICKINGER, CLARA HENNING, WALDA HESS, DR. 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CLINE, WILLIAM RUSHER, TAD SZULC 25508 10/27/74 PORTRAIT OF A FUNNYMAN: MILTON BERLE MILTON BERLE 25506 CHICAGO (T), UCLA 11/03/74 PART I: GORE VIDAL ON THE DECLINE & FALL OF AMERICA GORE VIDAL 11/03/74 PART II: AS OTHERS SEE US -- FOREIGN CORRESPONDENTS GITTA BAUER, STEPHEN BARBER, CLAUDE MOISY 11/10/74 07/27/75 PART I: "DEAR ANN LANDERS...I HAVE A PROBLEM" ANN LANDERS 23244 CHICAGO 11/10/74 07/25/75 PART II: HOW TO BE YOUR OWN BEST FRIEND -- DRS. NEWMAN & BERKOWITZ MILDRED NEWMAN, BERNARD BERKOWITZ 23244 CHICAGO 11/17/74 09/14/75 FACING DEATH: A YOUNG MAN WHO HAS SIX MONTHS TO LIVE LARRY & MARIAN BOHNE, ROBERT NEALE, SAMUEL KLAGSBRUN 25513 DC 11/24/74 07/13/75 PART I: THE TRUTH ABOUT FAT FARMS EMILY WILKINS, JAMES VILLAS, KAY THOMAS, SUZANNE PIEROT 23238 DC 11/17/74 07/13/75 PART II: "I AM THE SON OF THE REAL GODFATHER": A CONVERSATION WITH BILL BONANNO BILL BONANNO 23238 DC 12/01/74 SIX SOVIET STUDENTS COMPARE LIFE IN THE U.S. AND THE U.S.S.R. ALEXANDER TSEPELEV, EVGENY KRAMARENKO, ANDREY MALOV, ALEXANDER MARKIN, SERGEY KARMENSKY, IGOR POLUYAN DAVID KUNST 25509 12/08/74 ARE DOCTORS GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER? -- THE MEDICAL MALPRACTICE MESS RONNIE HARRISON, N. CARL SCHWARTZ, DR. BURTON WHITE, DR. GEORGE SAYPOL, DR. CYRIL WECHT, JOHN J. BOWER, ALFRED JULIEN 25505 12/15/74 CAN WE FEED 500 MILLION STARVING PEOPLE DR. JOHN KNOWLES, SARWAR LATEEF, GARRETT HARDIN, ALAN BERG, LESTER BROWN 25512 12/22/74 PART I: THE IRREPRESSIBLE REX REED REX REED 25514 DC 12/22/74 07/20/75 PART II: THE SECRET WORLD OF PLANTS RANDALL FONTES, RICHARD CHAMPION, RALPH SNODSMITH, PROFESSOR ARTHUR GALSTON, PETER TOMPKINS 25514 DC 12/29/74 07/06/75 PART I: THE LAST OF THE MOVIE MOGULS: JOSEPH E. LEVINE JOSEPH E. LEVINE 25515 DC 12/29/74 07/06/75 PART II: THE MEANEST CRITIC IN AMERICA: JOHN SIMON JOHN SIMON 25515 DC 01/05/75 08/24/75 PART I: TO SLEEP, PER CHANCE TO DREAM -- ALL ABOUT INSOMNIA DR. RICHARD BOOTZIN, JUNE FREBERGE, ABRAHAM WEINBERG, RICHARD KAGAN, DR. PETER HAURI 25516 DC 01/05/75 08/24/75 PART II: GROWING OLD IN AMERICA MAE LAUFER, MOLLY POLLAK, JULIA AVERY, MARY KEALTY, SARA RICKARD, CHRISTINE TARATETA 25516 DC 01/12/74 06/29/75 SIX JUDGES DEBATE CRIME AND PUNISHMENT ALPHONSO SEPE, BRUCE WRIGHT, NICHOLAS TSOUCALAS, ALFRED BURKA, CHARLES HALLECK, BURTON ROBERTS 25518 01/19/75 PART I: PROFILE OF A FASCINATING WOMAN: CLARE BOOTHE LUCE CLARE BOOTH LUCE 25507 01/19/75 08/10/75 PART II: SHERLOCK HOLMES IS ALIVE AND WELL NICHOLAS MEYER, JOHN BENNETT SHAW, ALBERT ROSENBLATT, SAM ROSENBERG 25507 CHICAGO 01/26/75 IT'S HELL BEING UNEMPLOYED -- SIX VICTIMS OF THE RECESSION CHARLES GROHE, PAUL JARVIS, ANNE IMHOFF, RICHARD CAMPBELL, MARY LOU BRIGGS, VERNON MCCOY 25520 01/26/75 PART II: EXPERTS LOUIS LEVINE, JAMES FUCHS 25520 02/02/75 08/17/75 PART I: TEEN-AGE CRIMINALS TELL ALL 25517 CHICAGO, DC 02/02/75 08/17/75 PART II: EXPERTS DISCUSS TEEN-AGE CRIMINALS DR. ESTHER ROTHMAN, ASSEMBLYMAN ALFRED DELLIBOVI, DETECTIVE IRWIN SILVERMAN, CHARLES KING 25517 CHICAGO, DC 02/09/75 PART I: NATURAL CHILDBIRTH -- A LABOR OF LOVE DR. IRWIN CHABON, CAROLYN HECHT, ROGER AND CAROL AUGLIERA, JULIE AND TOM CORE 25522 02/09/75 PART II: WILLIAM "FISHBAIT" MILLER WILLIAM "FISHBAIT" MILLER 25522 02/16/75 HAS HENRY KISSINGER OUTLIVED HIS USEFULLNESS SENATOR JACOB JAVITS, JOSEPH KRAFT, ANTHONY LEWIS, DR. ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI 25525 02/23/75 09/07/75 PART I: THE MYSTERY OF THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE JOHN WALLACE SPENCER, CLAES ROOTH, DON HENRY, DAMIAN HOUSMAN, CHARLES BERLITZ 25519 CHICAGO, DC 02/23/75 09/07/75 PART II: THE AGONY OF BEING BLACK IN SOUTH AFRICA JOHN KANI, WINSTON NTSHONA 25519 CHICAGO, DC 03/02/75 IS PSYCHIATRY DEAD -- 6 PSYCHIATRISTS IN HEATED DEBATE DR. NATHAN S. KLINE, DR. SAUL TUTTMAN, DR. E. FULLER TORREY, DR. THEODORE LIDZ, DR. RICHARD M. RESTAK, DR. RAYMOND VEEDER 25526 03/09/75 CAN ARABS AND ISRAELIS LIVE IN PEACE? PART I: EGYPTIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N. DR. ESMAT ABDEL-MEGUID 25533 03/09/75 CAN ARABS AND ISRAELIS LIVE IN PEACE? PART II: AN ISRAELI ANSWER -- DR. SHLOMO AVINERI 25530 03/16/75 PART I: ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO LIVE IN FEAR 25528 03/16/75 PART II: EXPERTS DEBATE DEPORTATION OR AMNESTY FATHER LOUIS GIGANTE, EDWARD KAVAZANJIAN, IRA GOLLOBIN, JAMES BISHOP, ARTHUR FRIEDMAN, NICHOLAS KISBURG 25528 03/23/75 07/27/75 PART I: WHAT GOES ON BEHIND LOCKED DOORS: 12 JURORS DISCUSS THEIR VERDICT JOHN BURDSALL, BUNNY WEISS, HAROLD KEELING, KAREN SEITEL, PHINEAS YOSHIDA, THERESA MORRISON, NED HOPKINS, GLORIA MORALES, MAE JOHNSON, ELICH BUDOVSKY, CHARITY SHACKELFORD, ARTHUR COLLINS 25531 DC 03/23/75 07/27/75 PART II: JOSEPH BURTON -- FORMER SPY FOR THE F.B.I. 25531 DC 03/30/75 06/22/75 PART I: GOD AND THE REVEREND COFFIN AT YALE WILLIAM SLOANE COFFIN, JR. 25529 DC 03/30/75 06/22/75 PART II: DAVID KLEIN - A CONSUMER WHO FIGHTS BACK PROFESSOR DAVID KLEIN 25529 DC 04/06/75 THE DESPERATION OF THE BLACKS REVEREND JESSE JACKSON, MARGARET BUSH WILSON, CONG. RONALD DELLUMS, VERNON JORDAN, JR., BAYARD RUSTIN, JULIAN BOND 25523 04/13/75 PART I: WILLIAM LOEB: THE MAN POLITICIANS FEAR MOST 25532 04/13/75 PART II: A SNEAK PREVIEW OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY JOHN PERRONI, DAVID BANKS, ROBERT RAICHE, LUCILLE KELLEY, KIM ZACHOS, JERRY CARMEN 25532 04/20/75 PART I: THE INSIDE STORY OF AN ACADEMY AWARD MOVIE: "HEARTS AND MINDS" PETER DAVIS, BERT SCHNEIDER, WALTER GOODMAN 25534 04/20/75 PART II: TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION HERBERT MOSS, DENISE DENNISTON, DON PEASE, DR. ALFRED JENKINS, JAMES SINCLAIR, CHARLES DONAHUE 25534 04/27/75 HOW TO FIND A "GOOD" NURSING HOME -- PART I: ELDERLY PEOPLE HAPPY IN THEIR HOMES ANNETTE RUEFF, LORETTA GERARD, DR. RICHARD BLACK, TILLIE LEVY, LENA ROUDA, ANNA WEISS 25533 DC 04/27/75 HOW TO FIND A "GOOD" NURSING HOME -- PART II: NURSING HOME ADMINISTRATORS WHO CARE JACOB REINGOLD, MOTHER M BERNADETTE, PASTOR RICHARD REICHARD, DR. EVERETT LUTHER, REV. HOWARD WASHBURN 25533 DC 05/04/75 PART I: J.F.K. WITHOUT TEARS BENJAMIN BRADLEE 25535 05/04/75 PART II: BUTLERS TELL ALL TONY BECKETT, HENRY BURKE, ERIC BERTENSHAW, LORENZE ARMENDARIZ 25535 05/11/75 PART I: THE P.L.O. OBSERVER TO THE U.N. SAADAT HASAN 25538 05/11/75 PART II: ISRAEL'S NEW AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: GEN. CHAIM HERZOG 25538 05/18/75 PART I: KISS & TELL -- THE LIFE AND LOVES OF HELEN LAWRENSON 25536 05/18/75 PART II: FOREIGN MEDICAL STUDENTS RICHARD LANDER, MIKE RITOTA, THOMAS MATRKA, ANDREW WELLMAN, ROBERT BRAUN, JUDY WRIGHT 25536 05/25/75 THE DECLINE & FALL OF RICHARD NIXON -- PART I: THEODORE WHITE 25539 05/25/75 THE DECLINE & FALL OF RICHARD NIXON -- PART II: JIMMY BRESLIN 25539 06/01/75 STOP THE PRESSES: 6 JOURNALISTS CRITICIZE THEIR CRAFT JAMES WECHSLER, PATRICK BUCHANAN, RICHARD POLLAK, NEIL SHEEHAN, PAUL WEAVER, J. ANTHONY LUKAS 25537 06/08/75 CAMPUS '75: CUTTHROAT COMPETITION FOR GRADES -- PART I: STUDENTS FRED WEISS, JOHN MACEY, RICHARD SANDLER, FRAN CARPENTIER, "KIP" EAWLEY, GENE BUCKNER, JONATHAN DAVIS 25524 06/08/75 CAMPUS '75: CUTTHROAT COMPETITION FOR GRADES -- PART II: DEANS DR. ERNEST BUCK, DR. PHILLIP MAYERSON, DR. ELDON NONNAMAKER, ARCHIE EPPS, LEE VERSTANDIG 25524 06/15/75 PART I: A CONVERSATION WITH A CHIMP NIM CHIMPSKY, STEPHANIE LAFARGE, DR. HERBERT TERRACE, DR. GEOFFREY BOURNE 25540 DC 06/15/75 07/20/75 PART II: "THE KIDNAPPING OF THE PRESIDENT" CHARLES TEMPLETON 25540 DC 06/15/75 PART III: 102 YEAR OLD MAN MORTIMER CHESHIRE 25540 DC THE DAVID SUSSKIND SHOW 1975-76 09/21/75 WHO KILLED JOHN F. KENNEDY - PART I DAVID BELIN, WESLEY LIEBELER, JOSIAH THOMPSON, DR. JOHN K. LATTIMER, DR. ROBERT JOLING, ALLARD LOWENSTEIN 26701 DC 09/28/75 WHO KILLED JOHN F. KENNEDY - PART II DAVID BELIN, WESLEY LIEBELER, ALLARD LOWENSTEIN, PETER DALE SCOTT, FRANK MANKIEWICZ 26702 DC 10/05/75 06/20/76 DIVORCED MEN WHO WON CUSTODY OF THEIR CHILDREN JERRY RENKE, RICHARD DAVAMOS, BILL BELICKIS, THOMAS SCHENDORF, DR. PAUL HANSON, ALFRED PASCARELLA 25541 DC 10/05/75 06/20/76 PART II: BILL GERAWAY 25541 DC 10/12/75 ARE EUROPEAN WOMEN DIFFERENT MRS. OSCAR DE LA RENTA, DIANE VON FURSTENBERG, ADELA HOLZER, MAXIME DE LA FALAISE MCKENDRY 25542 10/12/75 PART II: VEGETARIANS FRANCES GOULART, VIRGINIA BELL, HOHN MCMATH, FRANCES MOORE LAPPE, LYNNE SKRESKO, JAY DINSHAH 25542 10/19/75 THE BATTLE OVER BUSING IN BOSTON JANET PALMARILLO, LEON SNEED, BEVERLY LEWIS, QUINCY ALLEN, LUTHER ALLEN, RICHARD LAWS, MRS. R. JOHNNENE, CAROL MURPHY, ROBERT JOHNNENE, MARIE CLARKE, MARY PERRY, MARY FOREMAN 26703 DC 10/26/75 IS ASTROLOGY A FAKE? DR. ZIPPORAH DOBYNS, ROBERT HAND, CHARLES JAYNE, DR. PAUL KURTZ, LAWRENCE JEROME, DR. RICHARD BERENDZEN 26704 11/02/75 06/27/76 PART I: DWARFS -- THE WORLD OF LITTLE PEOPLE GERALD RASA, GINA ZINGARO, CHARLES BEDOW, GEORGE BAEHM, JANET PICKARD 26707 11/02/75 06/27/76 PART II: COLLEGE SUPERSTARS -- 5 POPULAR PROFESSORS JEROME LETTVIN, PETER STANSKY, VINCENT SCULLY, J. ALAN HYNEK, ROBERT GURLAND 26707 11/09/75 08/15/76 TRAMPS & THIEVES? GYPSIES STRIKE BACK PART I: MICHAEL JOSEPH, BARBARA GILK, MANUEL GILK, DINAH GILK, GEORGE GILK, MARY YOFON, DAVID GILK, PAT YOFON 26710 11/09/75 TRAMPS & THIEVES? GYPSIES STRIKE BACK PART II: STEVE, JOHN COSTELLO, GEORGE, NICK 26710 11/16/75 PART I: WHO KILLED HOFFA? FRANK RAGANO 26713 11/16/75 PART II: THE PRIVATE LIVES OF THE RICH AND THE POWERFUL MYRA MCPHERSON, MARILYN BENDER 26713 08/01/76 PART I: LITTLE MICHAEL -- MIRACLES FOR SALE "LITTLE MICHAEL" LORD 26705 CHICAGO 08/01/76 PART II: ADDICTED DOCTORS -- THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN MEDICINE 26705 CHICAGO 11/30/75 PART I: "ON THE TRACK OF MURDER": HOMICIDE DETECTIVES BARBARA GELB, JAMES GRANT, SGT. GERALD MCQUEEN, SGT. RICHARD DAVIES, DET. THOMAS KILCULLEN, DET. JEFF GREENE 26709 11/30/75 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH ROBERT ALTMAN 26709 12/07/75 PART I: WHO SAYS WOMEN CAN'T BE PRIESTS? REV. JEANETTE PICCARD, REV. LEE MCGEE, REV. BETTY BONE SCHIESS, REV. ALISON PALMER 26711 CHICAGO 12/07/75 PART II: MALE PRIESTS -- THAT'S WHO MRS. EMILY GARDINER NEAL, REV. GEORGE RUTLER, REV. ROBERT TERWILLIGER, MOTHER ELISE 26711 12/14/75 GORE VIDAL ON SEX, POLITICS AND TURNING 50 26716 12/21/75 PART I: WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NEW LIFE SAVING DRUGS: DOCTORS VS. F.D.A. DR. JOHN LARAGH, DR. STEPHEN L. DEFELICE, DR. J. RICHARD CROUT, DR. ROBERT TEMPLE, DR. SIDNEY WOLFE, DR. JAMES HOLLAND 26718 12/21/75 PART II: SHOULD THE RAILROADS BE SUBSIDIZED FRED CURRY, PAUL REISTRUP 26718 01/04/76 PART I: THE BRILLIANT ANTHONY BURGESS 26714 01/04/76 PART II: OLDER WOMEN WITH YOUNGER MEN NICK & BEA UNGARD, RANDY MUDGETT, MYRTIS COLLINS 26714 01/04/76 PART III: CRIME FIGHTER - DENIS DILLON 26714 01/11/76 07/11/76 "OH, YOUR ACHING BACK": HOW TO PREVENT AND CURE BACK PAIN ROBERT HIGGENS, YVONNE LAPPAS, DR. MERVIN RHOADES, DR. LYMAN SMITH, DR. LEON ROOT, DR. HANS KRAUS, DR. ALBERT FINKELSTYNE, DR. KEITH MACELROY 26715 CHICAGO, DC 01/18/76 THE TRUTH ABOUT LYNDON JOHNSON JACK VALENTI, ALLARD LOWENSTEIN 26720 01/25/76 08/29/76 PART I: HOMOSEXUALITY IN PRO FOOTBALL -- DAVE KOPAY 26719 01/25/76 08/29/76 PART II: WE'VE GONE BANKRUPT JUNE RENO, MAURICE ALEVY, RICHARD RUBINO, KAREN KOWALSKI, JUDGE ROY BABITT, JEROME MEYERS, LINN TWINEM 26719 02/01/76 THE HOWARD HUGHES CONNECTION: WHAT WATERGATE WAS ALL ABOUT J. ANTHONY LUKAS, TERRY LENZNER, HANK GREENSPUN 26723 02/08/76 PART I: MARION JAVITS TALKS ABOUT MARION JAVITS 26721 02/08/76 PART II: THE NEW MILLIONAIRES BOB GUCCIONE, DAVID BROWN 26721 02/15/76 09/12/76 PART I: LOAN SHARKS REVEAL THEIR DIRTY BUSINESS JACK, SAL 26717 CHICAGO, DC 02/15/76 09/12/76 PART II: VICTIMS OF LOAN SHARKS BERNIE PALMER, JERRY, GEORGE IRWIN 26717 CHICAGO, DC 02/22/76 08/08/76 PART I: WE'VE SEEN THE LOCH NESS MONSTER DR. ROBERT RINES, ROY P. MACKAL, CHARLES WYCKOFF, ISAAC BLONDER 26722 02/22/76 08/08/76 PART II: EX-CONS DEBATE GUN CONTROL GARLAND LANIER, JOE YEAMENS, JOE SULLIVAN, BOB DAVIS, BURR LEYSON 26722 02/29/76 PART I: JACK ANDERSON REVEALS THE LOVE LIFE OF J.F.K. 26725 02/29/76 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH WYATT COOPER 26725 03/07/76 THE SELLING OF A PRESIDENT 1976 FRED DUTTON, FRANK MANKIEWICZ, JOHN SEARS, ROBERT KEEFE, F. CLINTON WHITE 26726 03/14/76 PART I: WHY THE RICH GET A KICK FORM COCAINE JOHN CUSACK, DR. ROBERT DUPONT, RICHARD ASHLEY, RICHARD WOODLEY 26724 CHICAGO 03/14/76 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH JONATHAN KOZOL 26724 CHICAGO 03/21/76 07/25/76 THE EST WAY TO HAPPINESS AND SUCCESS EST GRADUATES 26728 DC 03/28/76 PART I: IS EST GOOD FOR YOU? LUKE RHINEHART, JESSE KORNBLUTH, ADELAIDE BRY, CARL FREDERICK 26729 DC 03/28/76 PART II: UNWED TEENAGE MOTHERS NAOMI, LINDA, LYDIA, RENEE, CYNTHIA, MIRIAM, SUSAN 26729 DC 03/28/76 PART III: A CONVERSATION WITH JERRY RUBIN 26729 04/04/76 ADOPTEES WHO FOUND THEIR MOTHERS ELEANOR KAY, CRYSTAL HOLJES, ELLEN TURNER, FRAN BLANKENSTEIN, HOLLY CABOT, YODY WORCESTER, KATRINA MAXTONE-GRAHAM, CHARLES LEVENSOHN, MRS. ZORAH BUCHTMAN, LINDA TRAUM 26730 DC 04/11/76 UNFIT DOCTORS, UNNECESSARY SURGERY -- THE MEDICAL CRISIS DR. WILLIAM NOLEN, DR. MAX PARROTT, DR. WILLIAM STAHL, DR. MARVIN BELSKY, DR. MICHAEL HALBERSTAM 26727 04/18/76 07/04/76 RAPE, ROBBERY AND ASSAULT IN OUR SCHOOLS IRVING WITKIN, LINDA SADUR, WILLIAM BELL, GAIL RAE HORN, JOSEPH SHERMAN, BRUCE CARR 26733 04/18/76 07/04/76 PART II: POLISH-AMERICANS STANLEY KOKOSKA, TED MALISZEWSKI, EUGENE KUSIELEWICZ, MAGDA RATASKI 26733 04/25/76 WIFE BEATING -- 6 BATTERED WOMEN PAM, DIANE, RUTH, CAREY, CINDY, SALLY, KATY 26731 DC 04/25/76 PART II: EXPERTS DISCUSS BATTERED WOMEN DR. RICHARD GELLES, DR. ERIKA FREEMAN, DR. MURRAY STRAUS, MARJORY FIELDS 26731 DC 05/02/76 YOU CAN HARDLY AFFORD TO DIE ANYMORE JOHN KASTING, JOHN CURRAN, BURTON HIRSCH, MARIAN LIGON, BARBARA KRONMAN, VAL WASHINGTON, RAYMOND ARVIO, BECKY COHEN 26734 CHICAGO, DC 05/02/76 PART II: ADLAI STEVENSON REMEMBERED -- JOHN BARTLOW MARTIN 26734 DC 05/09/76 07/18/76 SOVIET JEWS TELL WHY THEY LEFT RUSSIA YURI BROKHIN, DR. LEONID TARASSUK, VALERY KUHARETZ, HELENA SHALAMOV, DR. IRENE GUNTHER 26732 DC 05/09/76 07/18/76 PART II: NARCOLEPSY - THE URGE TO SLEEP WILLIAM BAIRD, DR. CHARLES POLLAK, DR. WILLIAM DEMENT, JEAN LYMAN, GENE RALSTON, MARY REID 26732 DC 05/16/76 08/22/76 PART I: "STRAIGHT LIB" STRIKES BACK RICHARD, PETER, RITA, JOAN, BOB 26735 DC 05/16/76 08/22/76 PART II: CAMPUS QUEENS KAREN DAVIS, JANE WERTZ, ANDREA FOXE, NANCY WHITE 26735 DC 05/16/76 08/22/76 PART III: CLEANING WOMEN EDNA RADIGAN, DARLENE WILLIS, MELBA TONGE, MIRIAM BLUE 26735 DC 05/23/76 FACE TO FACE CONFRONTATION BETWEEN AN ISRAELI AND A P.L.O. SPOKESMAN YOSEF TEKOAH, IBRAHIM ABU-LUGHOD 26736 DC 05/30/76 IS SOCIAL SECURITY GOING BROKE? ROBERT TILOVE, IRWIN SCHIFF, BERT SEIDMAN, WARREN SHORE, NELSON CRUIKSHANK 26738 DC 05/30/76 PART II: AN UNAUTHORIZED LOOK AT NELSON ROCKEFELLER SAM ROBERTS, MICHAEL KRAMER 26738 DC 06/06/76 NEW BREAKTHROUGHS IN THE WAR AGAINST CANCER DR. JAMES HOLLAND, DR. JORDAN GUTTERMAN, DR. NORMAN JAFFE, DR. DONALD MORTON, DR. VINCENT DEVITA, JR.26740 DC 06/13/76 HOW TO BEAT THE BLUE COLLAR BLUES DR. SIDNEY HARMAN, DR. MICHAEL MACCOBY, IRVING BLUESTONE, ARTHUR MCCARVER, LILLIE GATEWOOD, AUGUSTA HOWARD 26741 DC 06/13/76 PART II: FRANK MUIR 26741 DC THE DAVID SUSSKIND SHOW 1976-77 09/19/76 PART I: HOPELESS AND DESPERATE: BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT 27801 DC 09/19/76 PART II: COMMUNITY WORKERS DONALD MORRIS, ROSEMARIE HARRIS, FREDERICK JONES, SANDY KOONTZ, HERBERT CROSSMAN 27801 DC 09/26/76 07/03/77 PART I: HOW TO COPE WITH JET LAG DR. JAMES CRANE, MARIAN KARPEN, WILLIAM HOOVER, HARVEY SCHEIN, EVA MAKITALO, CAPT. ROD GILSTRAP 27802 DC 09/26/76 07/03/77 PART II: WHITHER THE WEATHER: THE ALARMING CHANGES IN OUR CLIMATE LOWELL PONTE, DR. STEPHEN SCHNEIDER, DR. REID BRYSON 27802 10/03/76 PART I: IS COLLEGE NECESSARY ANYMORE? HENRY SCHUYLER, LEON BOTSTEIN, FRED WHITEHEAD, DR. J. HERBERT HOLLOMON, DR. JOHN SILBER, STEVEN FISCHER 27803 10/03/76 PART II: CHINA AFTER MAO: A CONVERSATION WITH HAN SUYIN 27803 10/10/76 06/19/77 ARE WE WINNING THE ARE AGAINST HEART ATTACKS? DR. MICHAEL DEBAKEY, DR. ISADORE ROSENFELD 27804 DC 10/17/76 FAMILIES IN TROUBLE: CONFRONTATION BETWEEN PARENTS AND CHILDREN JOE GAULD, EDWARD LEGG 27806 CHICAGO 10/24/76 THE MAFIA-CIA CONNECTION WITH NORMAN MAILER, ROBERT SAM ANSON, NICHOLAS GAGE, HARRY ROSITZKE 27807 10/31/76 08/14/77 11/06/77 SUPER SLEUTHS: PRIVATE EYES REVEAL THEIR SECRETS FRED OTASH, JERRY MCAWARD, MIKE PASCAL, FRED RAYNE, DAVID FREENBERG, IRWIN BLYE 27809 CHICAGO, DC 11/07/76 06/26/77 12/31/78 RE-INCARNATION -- IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH DICK SUTPHEN, RUTH MONTGOMERY, GINA CERMINARA, HUGH LYNN CAYCE 26737 CHICAGO, DC 11/14/76 PART I: HELL NO! WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR PRESIDENT HOWARD SINGER, MARY PRITZ, WILLARD ESPY, LARRY SHERMAN, ANN WEBSTER MARVEL, WILLIAM SLATTERY 27808 11/14/76 PART II: CONVERSATION WITH A 100 YEAR OLD MAN MR. AND MRS. RODNEY JONES 27808 11/21/76 CARTER VERSUS FORD -- DID THE MEDIA PLAY FAIR? ELIE ABEL, THOMAS VAIL, EDWARD KOSNER, MICHAEL DANN, FREDERICK TAYLOR, BURNS ROPER 27810 11/28/76 07/24/77 PART I: THE NAZI NEXT DOOR -- WAR CRIMINALS HIDING IN THE U.S.A. CHARLES ALLEN, VINCENT SCHIANO, SAM BERNSEN, JOHN BARRY, HOWARD BLUM, ANTHONY DEVITO 27811 DC 11/28/76 07/24/77 PART II: WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING ABOUT IT CONGRESSMAN JOSHUA EILBERG, CONGRESSWOMAN ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN 27811 DC 12/05/76 PART I: PEPSI COLA & SOYBEANS -- DOING BUSINESS WITH THE RUSSIANS DWAYNE ANDREAS, DONALD KENDALL 27812 12/05/76 PART II: AMERICANS WHO'VE LIVED IN RUSSIA LEONA & JERROLD SCHECTER, ALAN ZEITHAMER, WILLIAM DYESS 27812 10/23/76 12/12/76 07/31/77 PART I: THIS SHOW COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE -- HOW TO RESCUE A HEART ATTACK VICTIM? DR. JOSEPH ORNATO, FRED HEWITT, GERARD CASE, EDWARD FRIEDMAN 27805 DC 12/12/76 07/31/77 PART II: ARE WE CHANGING OUR DRINKING HABITS? JAMES VILLAS, MARK KELLER, PATRICK CAMPBELL, MARVIN SHANKEN, CHARLES BURCK, KIRKE WALSH 27805 DC 01/30/77 "IS IT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT DIXIE?" TOM WICKER, SHELDON HACKNEY, A.J. COOPER, WILLIAM EMERSON, BRANDT AYERS, BETTY TALMADGE, BARRY BINGHAM 27820 02/06/77 THE TRUTH ABOUT SPORTS -- FUNNY, GLAMOROUS, AND SEEDY RED SMITH, DAN JENKINS, DICK SCHAAP, MORRIE SIEGEL, DAVE ANDERSON PETE AXTHELM 27821 02/13/77 NEVER AGAIN -- THE BITTER LEGACY OF VIET NAM WILLIAM COLBY, DAVID HALBERSTAM, GLORIA EMERSON 27823 02/20/7 08/21/77 PART I: THE BARE FACTS ABOUT BALDNESS JERRY DELLA FEMINA, KENNETH BATTELLE, ROBERT TEMLIAK, ELLIOT NONAS, DENIS LAMARSH, DR. JAY BARNETT 27824 CHICAGO, DC 02/20/77 08/21/77 PART II: GET THE COCKROACHES OUT OF YOUR HOME ALICE GRAY, NORMAN COOPER, RICHARD ELDREDGE, NORMAN GOLDENBERG 27824 CHICAGO, DC 02/27/77 07/17/77 GIVE 'EM DEATH? THE BATTLE OVER CAPITAL PUNISHMENT JUDGE BURTON ROBERTS, ROBERT LEONARD, BRYANT HUFF, MORRIS DEES, SENATOR JOHN RUSSO, JOE FREEMAN BRITT 27826 DC 03/06/77 08/07/77 PART I: SINGLES IN THE SUBURBS LINDA NARD, JEFF BEAL, SARA HUDSON, KELLY EMMONS, ED ZEIDNER, JACQUE DEJOHN, GENE MIKOLS, KITTY GREENSETIN. 27827 DC 02/22/77 03/06/77 08/07/77 PART II: REGGAE MUSIC TIMOTHY WHITE, MICHAEL COOPER, STEPHEN COORE, PERRY HENZELL, BARBARA GLOUDON, MAX ROMEO, BRETT ALEXANDER 27827 DC 03/01/77 03/13/77 09/11/77 05/27/79 PART I: CONVERSATION WITH A PIMP TOM 27829 CHICAGO 03/01/77 03/13/77 09/11/77 05/27/79 PART II: THE PIMP SQUAD SERGEANT GEORGE TRAPP, JOHN MCMORMICK, ARTIE STOECKER, EDWARD MILLER, RICHIE CONFORT 27829 CHICAGO 02/12/77 03/20/77 HOW TO GET RID OF YOUR HEADACHES A. PATIENTS - JOELLA CRAMBLIT, BEN SMITH, JAMES ANDERSON, SHERRY HUBER B. EXPERTS - DR. DAVID CODDON, DR. SEYMOUR DIAMOND, DR. CHARLES DEMIRJIAN, DR. WALTER CASKEY 27825 DC 03/08/77 03/27/77 GORE VIDAL UNCENSORED 27832 03/02/77 03/11/77 04/03/77 TEENAGE MUGGERS CONFESS A. MUGGERS: JOHN, BILL, MIKE, PETER SAVAGE, MICHELLE, TOM, GENE B. BLACK KIDS WHO'VE MADE IT: CARLOS GRIFFITH, VERNICE MILLER, GEORGE O'NEAL LYONS, VIETTA JOHNSON, ROBERT HARPER 27830 DC 03/11/77 04/10/77 DON'T GET SICK IN AMERICA -- THE RUNAWAY COST OF MEDICAL CARE DR. MILES GALIN, DR. JAMES G. HAUGHTON, DR. MARTIN CHERKASKY, DR. C. ROLLINS HANLON, WALTER J. MCNERNEY, CONGRESSMAN ANDREW MAGUIRE 27833 DC 03/01/77 04/17/77 PART I: YOU SHOULD MEET STUDS TERKEL 27828 03/02/77 04/17/77 PART II: JEWS WHO'VE BECOME CATHOLICS & OTHER CONVERTS TOBY STEIN, ALBERT SIMON, PAUL MAYER, CLARE ROSEN, BEVERLY SPERRY 27828 04/19/77 04/24/77 TERRORISTS: HOSTAGES, POLICE AND THE MEDIA A. LIEUTENANT FRANK BOLZ, LARRY HABER, ANTHONY COOPER, JULIE HARSTON, DR. FREDERICK HACKER, BERNARD SIMON B. ROBERT MACNEIL, EUGENE METHVIN, JAMES HOGE, BERNARD JOHNPOLL, PAT POLILLO 27834 04/20/77 05/01/77 PART I: HOW CHILDREN FEEL ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THE WORLD AROUND THEM KARA ZAITZ, JEREMIAH AND JOSHUA COHEN, CLAUDE BROOKS, AISSIA RICHARDSON, MATTHEW NEWTON, ORIANA ZILL, POLLY ERICKSEN, PETER BURRIS, ADAM MICHAELS 27835 04/20/77 05/01/77 PART II: EXPERTS ON CHILD BEHAVIOR DR. LEE SALK, DR. NICHOLAS ZILL, PEGGY CHARREN 27835 DC 04/26/77 05/08/77 PART I: WE'VE COME A LONG WAY: WOMEN MOVIE MAKERS NANCY DOWD, BARBARA KOPPLE, ELEANOR PERRY, JOAN MICKLIN SILVER 27836 04/26/77 05/08/77 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH JOHN CHEEVER 27836 05/03/77 05/15/77 PART I: WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE EAT PEARL WONG, ARMANDO ORSINI, PAUL KOVI, SHELDON TANNEN, WALLY GANZI, WARNER LEROY 27838 05/03/77 05/15/77 PART II: ARE WE A NATION OF JUNK FOOD JUNKIES? JOHN HESS, MIMI SHERATON, MARVIN HEAPS, DAVID SISK, WEXLER, CALVIN TRILLIN 27838 05/17/77 05/22/77 YOU CAN SURVIVE A PLANE CRASH -- HERE'S HOW A. SURVIVORS: ALAN BRESLAU, JANET MACAA, DICK SMITH, SARAH UZZELL B. EXPERTS: JAMES O. ROBINSON, HARRY ROBERTSON, CAPT. RAY GERBER, CAPT. J.D. SMITH, RICHARD WITKIN, CHARLES O. MILLER, NORMAN COUSINS 27837 DC 05/20/77 05/29/77 THE BIG BOOM ON BROADWAY ALEXANDER COHEN, DAVID MAMET, ZELDA FICHANDLER, HAROLD PRINCE, ANTHONY PERKINS, CLIVE BARNES 27840 DC 05/24/77 06/05/77 WE STILL LIKE NIXON: THREE DIEHARDS BRUCE HERSCHENSOHN, HENRY CASHEN, ARAM BAKSHIAN 27841 DC 07/10/77 PART I: THE CAT'S MEOW -- SEVEN FELINES AND THEIR OWNERS JOAN BREARLEY, DR. ALFRED GROSSMAN, BILL WIELER, JUDY FIREMAN, LINDA WORTHINGTON 27815 CHICAGO, DC 07/10/77 PART II: DR. HERBERT BENSON AND "THE RELAXATION RESPONSE" 27815 CHICAGO, DC 08/28/77 PART I: MISTRESSES ANNONYMOUS BARBARA CONDOS, MELISSA SANDS 27842 DC 08/28/77 PART II: HITLERMANIA: OUR FASCINATION WITH THE NAZIS DR. ROBERT JAY LIFTON, ROBERT G.L. WAITE, DR. LOUIS SNYDER, JOHN TOLAND, DR. WILLIAM SHERIDAN ALLEN, DR. HENRY TURNER, TIM MASON 27842 DC THE DAVID SUSSKIND SHOW 1977-78 06/07/77 09/18/77 PART I: SHAPE-UP AMERICA -- THE PHYSICAL FITNESS EXPLOSION DR. HERMAN HELLERSTEIN, DR. NORBERT SANDER, KATHERINE SWITZER, DR. PAUL MILVY 27843 DC 05/31/77 09/18/77 PART II: CONFESSIONS OF THREE WHITE COLLAR CRIMINALS JOE BRISBOIS, JACKIE BUTNER, BILL SCHONOWSKI 27843 05/17/77 09/25/77 WE'RE MAD AS HELL -- SECRETARIES STRIKE BACK PAT FITZGERALD, JUDITH RINK, RENEE LORD, TESSA GEORGE, MARGIE ALBERT, JUDI FREEMAN 27839 CHICAGO, DC 06/07/77 09/25/77 FORMER SECRETARIES CHARLOTTE JONES, PAULA HUGHES 27839 CHICAGO, DC 09/21/77 10/02/77 WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD? JACK ANDERSON, ROBERT SAM ANSON, DAVID PHILLIPS, ROBERT GEMBERLING, JONES HARRIS, PETER DALE SCOTT 29201 09/24/77 10/09/77 PART I: THIN IS IN RAYSA BONOW, BLAIR SABOL, ROBERT L. GREEN, DR. MARCI GREENWOOD 29203 CHICAGO (T) 10/01/77 10/09/77 PART II: SUCCESS -- LOOKING OUT FOR #1 DR. WAYNE DYER, ROBERT J. RINGER, MICHAEL KORDA, JANE TRAHEY 29203 CHICAGO (T) 10/01/77 10/16/77 06/25/78 PART I: MAFIA INFORMERS -- NO PLACE TO HIDE FRED GRAHAM, EDWIN STIER, JAMES DRUKER, MARVIN EVANS, HERB HARWOOD 29202 CHICAGO 09/24/77 10/16/77 06/25/78 PART II: TODAY'S WORLD OF ROCK DAVE MARSH, JOHN ROCKWELL, DEE ANTHONY, JOHNNY WINTER, GEORGE FRAYNE aka COMMANDER CODY 29202 10/08/77 10/23/77 06/18/78 PART I: HYPNOSIS CURES: DOCTORS AND PATIENTS DEMONSTRATE DR. ERNEST ROCKEY, DR. BARBARA DEBETZ, DR. HERBERT SPIEGEL, DR. DAVID SPIEGEL, DR. JEFFREY TARTE, D.D.S., CHARLES SNYDER, MARJORIE STRIDER, ELYCE ENGLAND, HERBERT KLIEGERMAN, SANDRA BEHRMAN 29204 CHICAGO, DC 10/29/77 10/30/77 PART I: "TORTURE AND MURDER -- THE HUMAN RIGHTS DEBATE" AMBASSADOR ALLARD LOWENSTEIN, CONGRESSMAN PHILIP CRANE, REVEREND WILLIAM SLOANE COFFIN, JR., DR. FRED WARNER NEAL 29207 10/29/77 10/30/77 PART II: THE WORLD OF ADVERTISING GEORGE LOIS, BOB GIRALDI, GENE FEDERICO 29207 10/19/77 11/13/77 PART I: CELEBRITY WATCHING -- JACKIE, BARBRA, REDFORD AND FARRAH TOO! RICHARD B. STOLLEY, LIZ SMITH, ALBIN KREBS, REX REED, JAMES BRADY 29206 10/19/77 11/13/77 PART II: BETTING ON SPORTS -- TOUTS AND TIPSTERS RICHARD BOMZE, GREG PELLINI, JULIUS "GAFFNEY" SCHANZER, JIM FEIST 29206 10/15/77 11/20/77 PART I: ALL ABOUT SEX THERAPY DR. HELEN SINGER KAPLAN, M.D., DR. JOSEPH LOPICCOLO, PH. D., DR. MAJ-BRITT ROSENBAUM, M.D., DR. BENJAMIN SADOCK, M.D., DR. VIRGINIA SADOCK, M.D., ROBERT KOLODNY, M.D. 29205 CHICAGO 10/15/77 11/20/77 PART II: CHILDREN OF THE HOLOCAUST JODY CUKIER, JACOB FRUCHTMAN, ABRAHAM KRIEGER, CHAIM ZLOTOGORSKY, DIANA WYSHOGROD ZLOTOGORSKY 29205 *11/12/77 11/27/77 09/10/78 02/10/85 TALK SHOW HOSTS SPEAK OUT -- DICK CAVETT, PHIL DONAHUE AND STANLEY SIEGEL 29210 CHICAGO (T), DC (copy @ NY TV MUSEUM) 11/05/77 12/04/77 PART I: IS THERE TOO MUCH SEX AND VIOLENCE ON TELEVISION? ALFRED R. SCHNEIDER, DR. FOY VALENTINE, JIM KARAYN, VAN GORDON SAUTER, DR. EVERETT C. PARKER 29208 DC 11/05/77 12/04/77 04/29/79 PART II: THE NEW BREED OF IMMIGRANT -- RICH AND GLAMOROUS JACLINE MAZARD, JOHN RICHARDSON, COUNTESS MARINA DE BRANTES, BARNEY GOODMAN, MARIAN SCHIANO 29208 CHICAGO, DC 11/12/77 12/11/77 PART I: "WHITES NEED NOT APPLY" -- THE FIGHT OVER REVERSE DISCRIMINATION ARNOLD FORSTER, PAUL J. ASCIOLLA, CONG. JOHN CONYERS, JOSEPH L. RAUH 29209 DC 11/19/77 12/11/77 PART II: THE WHISTLE BLOWERS RALPH STAVINS, DR. ANTHONY MORRIS, ERNIE FIRZGERALD, DR. STANLEY MAZALESKI, FRED KISTLER 29209 DC 11/30/77 12/18/77 "DOES THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL KILL?" DR. NATALEE S. GREENFIELD, JAMES LUGGEN, HEIDI EVANS, ILA COOPER, BARBARA SEAMAN, HOWARD SHAPIRO, M.D., EDWIN ORTIZ, M.D., BEN-ZION TABER, M.D., MELVIN TAYMOR, M.D. 29213 12/17/77 12/25/77 07/09/78 OUR HOUSES ARE HAUNTED -- SPIRITS, PHANTOMS AND TRUE GHOST STORIES JAY ANSON, ARNOLD COPPER, FRED MOORE, BETTY MOORE, DR. JOHN FRANK, SUSAN C. GIGLIO, EDWARD WARREN, LORRAINE WARREN, FR. ALPHONSUS TRABOLD, OFM, DR. ALEX THOMAS 29217 CHICAGO, DC 12/07/77 01/08/78 PART I: ARE CRIMINALS BORN OR MADE? DR. STANTON SAMENOW, WILLIAM HELLERSTEIN, MEL RIVERS, DR. EMANUEL HAMMER, JOSEPH BORKIN, JOEL KLEIN 29214 12/07/77 01/08/78 PART II: HOW TO SAVE YOUR TEETH FRANK BOWYER, D.D.S., JERRY LYNN, D.D.S., DAVID SCOTT, D.D.S., STANLEY BEHRMAN, D.S.S. 29214 12/10/77 01/15/78 PART I: RUSSIAN SPIES ARE EVERYWHERE -- THE TRUTH ABOUT THE KGB JOHN BARRON, JACK FISHMAN, LEW NAVROZOV, HARRY ROSITZKE 29215 11/19/77 01/15/78 PART II: WEST POINT GOES COED JOAN ZECH, DIANE HAASE, KATHY ANN WILDEY 29215 01/21/78 01/22/78 PART I: FEELING DEPRESSED? -- HOW TO OVERCOME IT MYRNA WEISSMAN, PH.D., HELEN DEROSIS, M.D., RONALD FIEVE, M.D., AARON BECK, M.D. PATIENTS: HILDA ROBBINS, RAYMOND GUMBRECHT, NANCY SMITH, MICHAEL BAVAR 29221 CHICAGO 12/10/77 01/22/78 PART II: SECOND LADY AT THE WHITE HOUSE -- PRESIDENTIAL ASSISTANT MIDGE COSTANZA MIDGE COSTANZA 29221 01/14/78 01/29/78 HOUSE-HUSBANDS, LONG-DISTANCE MARRIAGE, AND OTHER LOVING COUPLES BURT WOLF, LINDA HOWARD, TUCKER CLARK, JAMES & LINDA FOX, LANA SKIRBALL, ANTHONY COLLIS 29219 CHICAGO 01/14/78 01/29/78 PART II: DR. ROBER LIBBY, DR. ROBERT RYDER, NENA O'NEILL 29219 01/07/78 02/05/78 07/30/78 01/07/79 THE FUNNIEST WOMEN AROUND -- ANNE MEARA, JANE CURTIN, MARILYN SOKOL AND OTHERS COMEDIANS: ANNE MEARA, JANE CURTIN, ZORA RASMUSSEN, REBECCA REYNOLDS, NANCY PARKER, MARILYN SOKOL 29216 DC 01/21/78 02/05/78 01/07/79 THE FUNNIEST WOMEN AROUND - PART II WRITERS: DEANNE STILLMAN, ANNE BEATTS, MARILYN MILLER, ROSIE SHUSTER 29216 DC 01/28/78 02/12/78 09/17/78 PART I: HOMOSEXUALS VS. COPS: A CONFRONTATION GAYS: DAVID ROTHENBERG, GREGORY NORRIS, ALAN BELL, JEREMY WEISS, NICK BOLLMAN COPS: JOHN TOBACCO, IGNATIUS SCLAFANI, FRANK ODESSA, STEVEN BERVINE, JOHN CODIGLIA 29222 CHICAGO, DC 01/28/78 02/12/78 09/17/78 PART II: THE HORROR OF MEXICAN PRISONS PRISONERS: DWIGHT WORKER, DAVID SEIGLINGER, DAVID ALSOP, CONGRESSMAN FORTNEY STARK, ROBERT HENNEMEYER 29222 DC 01/07/78 02/19/78 PART I: YOUR SMOKE GETS IN MY EYES - THE BATTLE OVER SMOKING JACOB J. MEYER, CHARLES MORGAN, JR., RHODA NICHTER, WILLIAM DWYER, PETER GEORGIADES, ETHEL GOLDBERG 29218 CHICAGO, DC 12/17/77 02/19/78 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH LEO ROSTEN 29218 DC 02/11/78 02/26/78 07/23/78 04/29/79 PART I: OUR WIVES BEAT US UP -- CONFESSIONS OF THREE BATTERED HUSBANDS VICTIMS: MICHAEL FRENCH, JOHN, BOB EXPERTS: ROGER LANGLEY, PAULETTE OWENS, JAMES WALSH 29224 CHICAGO, DC 02/11/78 02/26/78 07/23/78 PART II: BOBBY HALPERN - A REAL LIFE ROCKY BOBBY HALPERN, CHARLIE CASERTA 29224 CHICAGO, DC 02/08/78 03/05/78 07/02/78 SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER - THE REAL TONY MANEROS DISCO: VICTOR MEDINA, CARMEN PISANI, JODY OLIVER, GENE ROBINSON, CHUCK RUSINAK, SUSAN RAINONE, DIANE LUDWIG, ALEX MARCHAK SOLO INTERVIEW: STEVE RUBELL BALLROOM: DON DENATALE, OLGA VARVARO, NORMA MCLAIN STOOP, NICK PARNELL, JOHN LUCHESE, NANCY BRECKER LEEDS, ALAN & JOSEPHINE HALL TAP: HOWARD "SANDMAN" SIMS, CHUCK GREEN, BUNNY BRIGGS 29223 CHICAGO, DC 02/25/78 03/19/78 MORRIS UDALL -- THE MAN WHO SHOULD BE PRESIDENT CONGRESSMAN MORRIS UDALL 29225 03/11/78 03/26/78 08/13/78 PART I: SHOW BIZ KIDS AND STAGE MOTHERS CHILDREN: SUZANNE FIERO, DAWN WALKER, DAVID REED, MONICA WOLFF, TINA FOX, WAYNE HARDING, GLYNIS BIG, JUSTIN FREIMAN, MISSY HOPE PARENTS: ANINA REED, LOIS FREIMAN, BETTE FOX, CAROL FIERO, KAY BIG 29228 CHICAGO 03/02/78 03/26/78 08/13/78 PART II: CHARLES TEMPLETON CHARLES TEMPLETON 29228 06/18/78 PART II: TIMOTHY LEARY 29204 07/16/78 PART I: ELVIS LIVES AGAIN - THREE PRESLEY IMPERSONATORS 29230 CHICAGO (T), DC 07/16/78 PART II: ON THE WATERFRONT -- DOCK WORKERS SPEAK OUT 29230 CHICAGO (T), DC 08/06/78 YOU CAN'T LOCK US UP -- MENTAL PATIENTS ARE ROAMING THE STREETS 29229 CHICAGO 08/20/78 YOUR COMPLETE MEDICAL EXAM -- DR. ISADORE ROSENFELD 29239 CHICAGO 08/27/78 PART I: WE WON'T PAY -- TAXPAYERS IN REVOLT 29227 CHICAGO, DC 08/27/78 PART II: TERRORISTS BEWARE: PROFESSIONAL PROTECTORS 29227 CHICAGO, DC
US Woodstock 2 - Preparations well under way for 40th anniversary of festival
NAME: USWOODSTOCK2 20090815E TAPE: EF09/0777 IN_TIME: 10:05:41:05 DURATION: 00:01:40:15 SOURCES: AP TELEVISION DATELINE: Bethel, 14 Aug 2009 RESTRICTIONS: SHOTLIS Music/video/performance rights must be cleared AP Television Bethel, USA 14 Aug 2009 1. Wide of musician Richie Havens playing before audience 2. UPSOUND (English) Havens singing "Freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom!." 3. SOUNDBITE (English) Richie Havens, musician: "I see where my guitar has to go and it's 'Freedom', so I started singing 'Freedom' because my generation deserved it and this was going to give us the opportunity to have it. So I started singing that, and 'Motherless Child' came out. Now." 4. Couple posing for picture holding peace signs 5. Close up of hand holding a marijuana cigarette or 'joint' 6. SOUNDBITE: (English) Stewart King, Woodstock enthusiast: "It's that time of the year here. Get ourselves back to the garden, set our souls free." 7. SOUNDBITE (English) Bill Bleyer, Woodstock veteran: "It changed my life. I always tell people I'm part of the Woodstock Generation, it made me very positive, and idealistic, and despite Watergate and everything that's happened, I still feel that way - like this very positive outlook towards live." 8. Monsignor Edward Straub walking up to podium 9. SOUNDBITE (English) Monsignor Edward Straub, attended the original Woodstock as a priest: "You can bring a lot of people together and if they're consciously in tune to something bigger than themselves, they can get along and help one another when there's a disaster going on and not turn violent." 10. Wide of Sam Yasgur, son of Max Yasgur the farmer whose farm hosted the original Woodstock 11. Black and White photo of Max Yasgur 12. SOUNDBITE (English) Sam Yasgur, son of Max Yasgur: "Max Yasgur was a conservative, Republican, pro-war, 49-year old businessman, but if there was one thing in this world he hated, it was haters." 13. Wide of two Woodstock enthusiasts 14. Men looking at memorial monument STORYLINE WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS ON Rock lovers young and old prepared to mark the 40th Anniversary of the world's most famous festival on Friday. Woodstock veterans and more recent enthusiasts have gathered at the original site, now home to a '60s museum and an outdoor concert pavilion, for a weekend of performances by Jefferson Airplane and others to commemorate the anniversary. Musician Richie Havens was on hand on Friday to warm up the crowd with the time honoured Woodstock song 'Freedom'. Not that all of them needed that much encouragement. "It's that time of the year here. Get ourselves back to the garden, set our souls free" said one Woodstock enthusiast on Friday. Giant rock festivals come out every summer with ambitions for just a fraction of Woodstock's impact that featured Santana, The Who, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane and Jimi Hendrix, among others. Forty years ago the promoters of Woodstock; Michael Lang, Joel Rosenman, John Roberts and Artie Kornfeld hoped their frantic, last-minute efforts would be enough to pull off what today would take a year to prepare. The concert, which drew more than 400 thousand to Bethel, New York on August 15-18, 1969, did come off however, and its many problems (the miles-long traffic, the rain, the lack of food and water) only enhanced its mythology. Woodstock was many things, a brief, innocent moment of peace and music, but it was also a trailblazer to a festival circuit that has exploded in recent years. "It changed my life. I always tell people I'm part of the Woodstock Generation, it made me very positive, and idealistic" said Woodstock veteran Bill Bleyer on Friday. Woodstock was not the first big American rock festival. There were others such as 1967 Monterey Pop and the 1968, the Miami Pop Festival. The New York Times nearly didn't cover Woodstock, partly expecting it to be merely a sequel to the previous gatherings. In the years after Woodstock, much of the hippie culture was commercialised. Though the European festival circuit continued to grow, rock festivals in the US generally declined in the late '70s and '80s as the music and culture shifted. Today's celebration was much more subdued with attendees in a 'relaxed' state. Also on hand was, Sam Yasgur, whose father Max hosted the original festival on his farm. He says his father decided to host the festival, even though lots of people in the town did not want it. "Max Yasgur was a conservative, Republican, pro-war, 49-year old businessman, but if there was one thing in this world he hated, it was haters." In the last decade, the spirit of Woodstock has been taken up by a number of well-attended, well-organised mega-festivals. These days the line-ups are well-curated, portable toilet lines are short, security is mostly handled professionally, the sound is generally good and amenities are easily purchased. In an Internet age where human contact is increasingly unnecessary, rock festivals are still bringing as many as 80 thousand together, even if the events aren't as groovy as Woodstock. Woodstock has been resurrected a couple of times since 1969, at least in name. Promoters staged a 25th-anniversary concert near Woodstock in 1994 that was a musical success. But a 30th-anniversary performance at a former Air Force Base in Rome, NY, ended in disaster after crowds lit bonfires and looted on the last night. The unrelenting heat and 4 US dollar (5.70 Euros) bottles of water taxed any vestiges of Woodstock spirit. Yasgur's old farm, meanwhile, has gone establishment in recent years. Local cable television (b) billionaire Alan Gerry quietly snapped up the land in the 1990s and started a not-for-profit foundation to run a museum and concert space. The gently sloping hill that provided a natural amphitheatre in 1969 is nicely tended and fenced in. Concerts are regularly scheduled over the hill from the original stage at a modern, 4,800-seat amphitheatre.
DBS NEWS CONFERENCE / NPC PT. 1 (1992)
NEWS CONFERENCE HELD AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB TO DISCUSS DIRECT BROADCAST SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA REMARKS: DEMO DAY - STIX
Tuesday, August 4, 2015 President Obama's Remarks at the White House Demo Day SLUG: 1500 WH OBAMA DEMO DAY STIX RS37 73 & 1515 WH OBAMA DEMO DAY CUTS RS33 74 DISC#: 977 & 476 NYRS: WASH-3 & WASH-4 OBAMA: Look at you guys with all your gadgets. (Laughter.) PARTICIPANT: Happy Birthday! 16:16:57 OBAMA: Thank you! (Laughter.) Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm so gray. (Laughter.) But I feel good otherwise. Welcome to the White House, everybody. As a birthday treat to me, I thought I'd invite business leaders, investors, and government officials here for the first-ever White House Demo Day. (Applause.) 16:17:21 I think it's fair to say that when I was eight, I would have been confused by that choice. (Laughter.) But now I think it's really cool, and I am so grateful to have all of you participating. On a typical Demo Day, entrepreneurs, like many of you, pitch your ideas to potential investors in venture capital or elsewhere. And it is a high-stress, make-or-break moment that can change the course of your life. Folks are peppering you with questions, you don't know what's going to be coming. Today was much more relaxed because you just had to pitch the President of the United States your ideas. (Laughter.) So no problem -- in front of TV cameras that everybody is going to watch. (Laughter.) 16:18:14 Fortunately, everybody did a stellar job that I had a chance to meet. And here in this room, we've got some of the best and brightest entrepreneurs America has to offer, folks from all across the country who are working every day to transform the way we live and learn and communicate. They have taken over my house. We've got people who are developing the next generation of lithium-ion batteries. A system of radio sensors that notices when a senior takes a fall while they're in their home. A robotic teddy bear that helps kids with diabetes learn about managing their health and staying active. There was an app that helps military families transition to their new communities; another app that helps you order replacement parts just by snapping a photo of the old one. And then there are the folks at Astrobotic Technology in Pittsburgh. They are shooting for the moon -- literally -- with plans to land a rover on the lunar surface in the next couple of years, which is pretty exciting. I wouldn't mind seeing how that turns out. (Laughter.) 16:19:34 You know, in America, that's who we've always been. We explore next frontiers, we're pioneers with a vision for tomorrow -- whether it's Lewis and Clark, Sally Ride. We're the nation of Franklin and Edison, and Carver and Salk; Jobs, Gates. And the folks here today are heirs to that legacy, and they're the driving force in a 21st century economy. Startups, young firms account for almost 40 percent of new hires. And as we've fought back from the worst economic crisis of our lifetimes, those firms have helped our private sector create more than 12.8 million jobs over the last 64 straight months, which is the longest streak of private sector job growth on record. 16:20:20 So as President, I've worked to make it easier for entrepreneurs to strike out on their own. We've made it easier for folks to buy health insurance, making it portable so you can strike out and do your thing. We've made it easier to pay off student loan debt -- although there was an app that I just saw, somebody who's really good at working with businesses to help manage student loan debt in an efficient way. We have tried to download government data sets for new apps and innovations, following in the path of the National Weather Service and other data that's turned into commercial ventures. We've worked to connect to high-speed broadband and open access for a free and open Internet. And we're working on trade agreements to open up new markets for companies to sell their products overseas. Thanks to the bipartisan JOBS Act that I signed, it's easier for innovative companies to take that next step and go public. And when it's fully implemented, more startups and small businesses will be able to accept support from regular investors through crowdfunding. 16:21:32 So today, America is home to more high-tech companies than anyplace else in the world. And business leaders have declared that China is no longer the world's number one place to invest -- America is. With technological advancements like cloud computing and big data and 3D printing, the fact is there has never been a better time to launch an idea and bring it to scale right here in the United States, right now. But we've got to make sure that we're taking full advantage of this moment by tapping all the talent America has to offer, no matter who they are or where they set up shop. And obviously there are chronic challenges for any entrepreneur. Capital is tough to come by, but it's even tougher if you're not in one of a handful of cities that have a well-developed venture capital presence. It's always hard to get in front of the right people, but sometimes it's harder if you're a woman or an underrepresented minority who all too often have to fight just to get a seat at the table. 16:22:43 Right now, one study shows that fewer than 3 percent of venture capital-backed companies have a woman as their CEO. Another study showed that fewer than 1 percent have an African American founder. Yet we've seen again and again that companies with diverse leadership often outperform those that don't. That's the market that is out there -- not just here in the United States, but globally. So that lack of participation from everybody isn't good for business. 16:23:19 We've got to make sure that everybody is getting a fair shot -- the next Steve Jobs might be named Stephanie or Esteban. They might never set foot in Silicon Valley. We've got to unleash the full potential of every American -- not leave more than half the team on the bench. And that's something that a growing number of tech companies have begun to recognize. So in January, Intel announced that by 2020 they would achieve full representation of women and minorities in their U.S. workforce. Last week, Pinterest also announced ambitious new diversity goals of their own. Today, we've got a series of public and private commitments to build on those efforts. We've got more than 40 leading venture capital firms who are pledging more -- pledging to do more to track and hire and support women and underrepresented minorities and veterans at their firms and portfolio companies. A pair of leading pension funds are committing to diversifying the ranks of those who manage their money. We got companies like Xerox, Box, and others that are going to institute their own version of the NFL's "Rooney Rule," named after my good friend Dan Rooney, of the Pittsburgh Steelers, which means interviewing at least one woman and one person of color for every senior position -- just so that folks get a chance to get in the door. 16:24:43 And more than 100 deans at America's engineering schools are committing to recruit and retain more diverse student bodies, building the pipeline for the next generation of innovators and entrepreneurs because this is something we are seeing again and again and again. We are not producing all the technical talent, all the engineers that we need. And part of the reason is because too many girls and too many young people of color are getting intimidated and winnowed out of the process, not being mentored, not being encouraged, and we deprive ourselves of the talent that we need in order for us to continue to be a dynamic, innovative economy -- because that's the part of the population that's growing. So my administration is also going to do our part. We're expanding our TechHire initiative to 10 new cities and states -- bringing together employers and local governments to create newer, faster training pathways, like coding boot camps, so that a more diverse group of workers can get hired and perhaps eventually start a business of their own. 16:25:47 We're scaling up the National Science Foundation's successful Innovation Corps program at six more federal agencies so we can help more of our scientists move their ideas out of the lab and into the marketplace. More than 50 new cities have signed up to our "Startup in a Day" initiative. Many of them have earned cash prizes from the Small Business Administration to help them clear away all the red tape so that a local entrepreneur can apply for all the licenses and permits that they need to start a business in just one day. 16:26:17 So we hope that these efforts are going to open up new opportunities for all of our entrepreneurs -- all of our would-be entrepreneurs. And in the months ahead, I look forward to seeing more folks across this country -- investors, accelerators, universities, civic leaders, corporate giants, growing startups -- all take new steps to build on these actions. Because you never know who's going to have the next big idea, or what path will lead them there. So I'm just going to give you a couple of examples because these are folks who are here. Take the story of Ramona Pierson. Where's Ramona? There -- Ramona is right back here. So I was just talking to Ramona. Ramona is -- this is a pretty remarkable story. Back in 1984, when she was 22 years old, Ramona had already been a U.S. Marine. She was a young, dedicated, highly skilled professional in the prime of her life. One day, she's out for a run, and she was hit by a drunk driver. And she was in a coma for 18 months -- woke up 18 months later, weighed 64 pounds, was bald and was blind, could not walk, could not speak, was moved into a nursing home. I think it's fair to say that a lot of people would be broken by that. 16:27:38 In that nursing home, Ramona was surrounded by dozens of senior citizens, folks with a lifetime of knowledge, and expertise, and skills of their own as parents, teachers, and community leaders. And they helped coach Ramona back to health. They became her mentors. And over the next few years, Ramona had to relearn the most basic skills -- walking, speaking, crossing the street -- and she gained the perspective of others with challenges. Decades later now, Ramona looks back on that process of learning by connecting with others as the catalyst for a startup she launched three years ago called Declara. And it's a technology platform that combines the power of a search engine with a worldwide network of experts, so that we can all learn things faster from our fellow citizens and their lifetimes of knowledge. It's sort of like a Google meets Facebook, but there's all kind of stuff to it. Ramona was explaining it to me and it was fascinating, and I understood about half of it. (Laughter.) So today, Declara has users all around the world. It's attracted millions of dollars of capital. They've got a team of 65 employees, with women serving as CEO, COO, and head of data sciences. 16:28:58 That's the power of a good idea. And when Ramona was in that nursing home, I don't think anybody would have imagined that she was going to be a candidate to be a significant tech entrepreneur. Ideas can come from anybody and anywhere, and can be inspired by any kind of life experience. And we've got to judge those ideas on their merits. We've got to make sure they're not filtered by misperceptions about who people are or who's capable of dreaming something up. That's at the very heart of America -- the idea that any of us can make it if we try. And together, if we have enough effort and enough urgency, our idea can move the world. We can all be a part of making sure everybody has that chance. And that's what the Demo Day is about here today. That's what our initiatives are about. That's what our outstanding 40 partners that are making announcements are all about here today. I'm very proud of them. And I can't wait to see what all of you end up doing. 16:30:09 And keep in mind that in about 18 months I'm going to need a job. (Laughter and applause.) I've got some skills. (Applause.) Thank you very much, everybody. Appreciate it. (Applause.) END
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PART I - THE WOMEN:JEANNIE SAKOL, MONA ROMAN, VALERIE PASCAL DELACORTE, LUCI ANNE GOLDBERG, SUZANNE JAMES, CAROL GREGER PART II - THE MEN: TIMOTHY COONEY, DR. SHEPARD ARONSON, MARC FASTEAU, CARTER BALES, GERALD GARDNER 19437 11/22/70 GROUP ENCOUNTERS MEAN TOUCHING, FEELING, SCREAMING, STRIPPING HANNAH WEINER, HARRY SLOAN, BOB KRIEGEL, DAVIS SCHIFFMAN, MARTIN SHEPARD M.D, STEVE GELMAN 19444 12/27/70 OVERWEIGHT? UNHAPPY? EXPERTS ON DIETING DR. ROBERT ATKINS, ALYCE FINELL, DR. MORTON GLEN, JEREMY STEVENS, NANCY GOULD, DR. IRWIN STILLMAN 19445 12/27/70 WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE SWING DEREK HALL - CAINE, ELAINE KAUFMAN, PIERRE GROLEAU, OLEG CASSINI, WARNER LEROY 19445 01/24/71 THE PRO AND CON OF THE JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE PRO: RABBI MEIR KAHANE, NBERTRAM ZWEIBON, DOV SPERLING, JOSHUA JOFFEE CON: RABBI MARC TANENBAUM, MORRIS ABRAM, RABBI ARTHUR SCHNEIER, ARNOLD FORSTER 19457 01/31/71 LANDLORDS AND TENANTS AT WAR LANDLORDS: ROBERT KOENIG, WILLIAM MOSES, ABRAHAM KATZ, ROBERT MALOOF TENANTS: RUDY TOLBERT, VERTELLE X REEDER, REVEREND WILFREDO VELEZ, BERNARD LEONARD 19456 02/07/71 BEAUTIFUL ACTRESSES TURNED AUTHORS - VIVA, DIANE CILENTO, JOANNA BARNES 19831, 19458 02/14/71 ARE YOU HUNG UP AND NEUROTIC? 6 PSYCHIATRISTS! DR. NATHANIEL ROSS, DR. ROBERT JAY LIFTON, DR. ABRAHAM WEINBERG, DR. CHARLES SOCARIDES, DR. ANDREW FERBER, DR. CYRIL FRANKS 19459 02/21/71 ROCK MUSIC THAT SOUNDS GOOD: SEALS AND CROFTS! JIMMY SEALS AND DASH CROFTS 19460 02/28/71 HOW TO CONQUER THE FEAR OF DEATH DR. MORTON M. KLIGERMAN, MRS. MARY BRITTEN, DR. MICHAEL BRESCIA, SISTER MAUREEN PATRICIA FLANNERY, DR. MELVIN J. KRANT, REVEREND CARL NIGHSWONGER 19447 03/14/71 THE EXPLOSION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! KENNETH L. WOODWARD, WILLIAM VAN ETTEN CASEY, SJ, THOMAS DAVIS, FRANCINE GRAY, KENNETH BAKER, SJ, DR. EVER CURTIS 19462 03/21/71 ANGRY TAXPAYERS BATTLE MILITANT WELFARE MOTHERS! MARVIN DANSINGER, EMMA MCPHERSON, BOGDAN WASIUTYNSKI, GEORGEANN SALISBURY, JACKI MCKINNEY, EUGENE BARFOOT, DAVID HIMMELSTEIN, HELEN REICHENBECHER 19463 03/28/71 WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE OUT OF WORK - 5 EXECUTIVES HIT BY THE RECESSION VERNON MACKIE, JANE MILLER, EDWARD BOTWIN, FRED THOME, SAL CAVALLARO 19464 04/11/71 6 WHO'VE QUIT THE RAT RACE ANDRE GROS DAILLON, HELENGROS DAILLON, REV. HAROLD SKIDMORE, MARY ORPIN, SIDNEY DICKLER, FRANK VAN DYK 19458 04/11/71 THE OUTRAGEOUS WITH OF GORE VIDAL 19458 04/18/71 WHAT HAPPENS AT THE MASTERS AND JOHNSON SEX CLINIC JOAN AND HAROLD K 19466 04/18/71 UNWED MOTHERS CLAIM HUSBANDS ARE OBSOLETE MARY JANE GEIGER, JANE HARRIMAN, ODE BITTON, BARBARA CROSBY 19466 04/25/71 THE HELL OF VIETNAM AS YOU'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! 6 VETERANS BRADFORD BRITT, ROBERT O. MULLER, STEPHEN MCDONOUGH, CHARLES KNIGHT, JERRY CONER, STEVEN UZZI 19468 05/02/71 THE MATING GAME - THE SWINGING SINGLES SCENE ALICE WAYNE, MARTY O'HARA, JOE MAURO, SANDY SCHNALL, IRVING GRUBER, ANETTA LABOURENE, SAUL RITCHFIELD, GLORIA BENTLEY, AL STILLMAN, BARBARA KASENETZ 19469 05/09/71 WHITE PARENTS WHO ADOPT BLACK CHILDREN JOHN AND STEPHANIE HARAKAL, GEORGE AND MARJORIE RUBIN, TONY AND PEGGY MANGOGNA 19471 05/09/71 THE MAN WHO RUNS AGAINST NIXON - REPRESENTATIVE PAUL N. 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TOM WICKER, SHELDON HACKNEY, A.J.COOPER, WILLIAM EMERSON, BRANDT AYERS, BETTY TALMADGE, BARRY BINGHAM 27820 02/06/77 THE TRUTH ABOUT SPORTS - FUNNY, GLAMOROUS AND SEEDY RED SMITH, DAN JENKINS, DICK SCHAPP, MORRIE SIEGEL, DAVE ANDERSON, PETE AXTHELM 27821 02/13/77 NEVER AGAIN - TEH BITTER LEGACY OF VIETNAM WILLIAM COLBY, DAVID HALBERSTAM, GLORIA EMERSON 27823 02/20/77 PART I: THE BARE FACTS ABOUT BALDNESS JERRY DELLA FEMINA, KENNETH BATTELLE, ROBERT TEMLIAK, ELLIOT NONAS, DENIS LAMARSH, DR.JAY BARNETT 27824 02/20/77 PART II: GET THE COCKROACHES OUT OF YOUR HOME ALICE GRAY, NORMAN COOPER, RICHARD ELDREDGE, NORMAN GOLDENBERG 27824 03/06/77 PART I: SINGLES IN THE SUBURBS LINDA NARD, JEFF BEAL, SARA HUDSON, KELLY EMMONS, ED ZEIDNER, JACQUE DEJOHN, GENE MIKOLS, KITTY GREENSETIN 27827 03/06/77 PART II: REGGAE MUSIC TIMOTHY WHITE, MICHAEL COOPER, STEPHEN COORE, PERRY HENZELL, BARBARA GLOUDEN, MAX ROMEO, BRETT ALEXANDER 27827 03/13/77 PART I: CONVERSATION WITH A PIMP TOM 27829 03/20/77 HOW TO GET RID OF YOUR HEADACHES A.PATIENTS - JOELLA CRAMBLIT, BEN SMITH, JAMES ANDERSON, SHERRY HUBER B.EXPERTS - DR.DAVID CODDON, DR.SEYMOUR DIAMOND, DR.CHARLES DEMIRJIAN, DR.WALTER CASKEY 27825 03/27/77 GORE VIDAL UNCENSORED 27832 04/03/77 TEENAGE MUGGERS CONFESS A.MUGGERS: JOHN,BILL,MIKE,PETER SAVAGE,MICHELLE,TOM,GENE B.BLACK KIDS WHO'VE MADE IT: CARLOS GRIFFITH, VERNICE MILLER, GEORGE O'NEAL LYONS, VIETTA JOHNSON, ROBERT HARPER 27830 05/01/77 PART I: HOW CHILDREN FEEL ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THE WORLD AROUND THEM KARA ZAITZ, JEREMIAH & JOSHUA COHEN, CLAUDE BROOKS, AISSIA RICHARDSON, MATTHEW NEWTON, ORIANA ZILL, POLLY ERICKSEN, PETER BURRIS, ADAM MICHAELS 27835 05/01/77 PART II: EXPERTS ON CHILD BEHAVIOR DR.LEE SALK, DR.NICHOLAS ZILL, PEGGY CHARREN 27835 05/08/77 PART I: WE'VE COME A LONG WAY: WOMEN MOVIE MAKERS NANCY DOWD, BARBARA KOPPLE, ELEANOR PERRY, JOAN MICKLIN, SILVER 27836 05/15/77 PART I: WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE EAT PEARL WONG, ARMANDO ORSINI, PAUL KOVI, SHELDON TANNEN, WALLY GANZI, WARNER LEROY 27838 05/15/77 PART II: ARE WE A NATION OF JUNK FOOD JUNKIES? 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MILLER, NORMAN COUSINS 27837 05/29/77 THE BIG BOOM ON BROADWAY ALEXANDER COHEN, DAVID MAMET, ZELDA FICHANDLER, HAROLD PRONCE, ANTHONY PERKINS, CLIVE BARNES 27840 06/05/77 WE STILL LIKE NIXON: THREE DIEHARDS BRUCE HERSCHENSOHN, HENRY CASHEN, ARAM BAKSHIAN 27841 07/10/77 PART I: THE CATS MEOW - SEVEN FELINES AND THEIR OWNERS JOAN BREARLEY, DR.ALFRED GROSSMAN, BILL WIELER, JUDY FIREMAN, LINDA WORTHINGTON 27815 07/10/77 PART II: DR.HERBERT BENSON AND "THE RELAXATION RESPONSE" 27815 08/28/77 PART I: MISTRESSES ANONYMOUS BARBARA CONDOS, MELISSA SANDS 27842 08/28/77 PART II: HITLERMANIA: OUR FASCINATION WITH THE NAZIS DR.ROBERT JAU LIFTON, ROBERT G.L.WAITE, DR.LOUIS SNYDER, JOHN TOLAND, DR.WILLIAM SHERIDAN ALLEN, DR.HENRY TURNER, TIM MASON 27842 03/16/77 RELIGOUS CONVERTS 27831 09/18/77 PART I: SHAPE UP AMERICA - THE PHYSOCAL FITNESS EXPLOSION DR.HERMAN HELLERSTEIN, DR.NORBERT SANDER, KATHERINE SWITZER, DR.PAUL MILVY 27843 09/18/77 PART II: CONFESSIONS OF THREE WHITE COLLAR CRIMINALS JOE BRISBOIS, JACKIE BUTNER, BILL SCHONOWSKI 27843 09/25/77 WE'RE MAD AS HELL - SECRETARIES STRIKE BACK PAT FITZGERALD, JUDITH RINK, RENEE LORD, TESSA GEORGE, MARGIE ALBERT, JUDI FREEMAN 27839 09/25/77 FORMER SECRETARIES CHARLOTTE JONES, PAULA HUGHES 27839 10/02/77 WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD? JACK ANDERSON, ROBERT SAM ANSON, DAVID PHILLIPS, ROBERT GEMBERLING, JONES HARRIS, PETER DALE SCOTT 29201 10/16/77 PART II: TODAY'S WORLD OF ROCK DAVE MARSH, JOHN ROCKWELL, DEE ANTHONY, JOHNNY WINTER, GEORGE FRAYNE 29202 10/23/77 PART I: HYPNOSIS CURES: DOCTORS AND PATIENTS DEMONSTRATE DR.ERNEST ROCKEY, DR.BARBARA DEBETZ, DR.HERBERT SPIEGEL, DR.DAVID SPIEGEL, DR.JEFFREY TARTE D.D.S., CHARLES SNYDER, MARJORIE STRIDER, ELYCE ENGLAND, HERBERT KLIEGERMAN, SANDRA BEHRMAN 29204 11/13/77 PART II: BETTING ON SPORTS - TOUTS AND TIPSTERS RICHARD BOMZE, GREG PELLINI, JULIUS GAFFNEY SCHANZER, JIM FEIST 29206 11/20/77 PART I: ALL ABOUT SEX THERAPY DR.HELEN SINGER KAPLAN M.D., DR.JOSEPH LOPICCOLO PH.D., DR.MAJ-BRITT ROSENBAUM M.D., DR. 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NATALEE GREENFIELD, JAMES LUGGEN, HEIDI EVANS, ILA COOPER, BARBARA SEAMAN, HOWARD SHAPIRO M.D., EDWIN ORITZ M.D., BEN-ZION TABER M.D., MELVIN TAYMOR M.D. 29213 12/25/77 OUR HOUSES ARE HAUNTED - SPIRITS, PHANTOMS AND TRUE GHOST STORIES JAY ANSON, ARNOLD COOPER, FRED MOORE, BETTY MOORE, DR. JOHN FRANK, SUSAN C. GIGLIO, EDWARD WARREN, LORRAINE WARREN, FATHER ALPHONSUS TRABOLD, DR. 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ISADORE ROSENFELD 29239 08/27/78 PART I: WE WON'T PAY - TAXPAYERS IN REVOLT 29227 08/27/78 - PART II: TERRORISTS BEWARE: PROFESSIONAL PROTECTORS 29227 09/24/78 PART I: BABIES FOR SALE - THE BLACK MARKET IN CHILDREN DAVID LEAVITT, BEATTY LIPMAN, LINDA, CONGRESSMAN HENRY HYDE, NANCY BAKER, ROBERT BURNS, JUNE MATZ 29243 10/01/78 JOHN J. O'CONNOR 30703 10/01/78 PART II: TURNING OFF THE TUBE - LIFE WITHOUT TELEVISION A. CHILDREN: FRED IFRAH, DAWN KAYNO, DEREK LIPPNER, CHRISSY MAGLIOCCO, LEAH PIKE, DAVID STEINGLASS B. PARENTS AND TEACHERS: JOYCE SUSSKIND, NANCY PIKE, BARBARA GOLDFARB, PAT MAGLIOCCO, JUDITY ROHN, TANYA KAUFMAN 30703 10/08/78 PART I: FED UP WITH THE SEXUAL REVOLUTION - SIX ASEXUALS GAIL RACHLIN, BILL PRIEST, DANIELLA GIOSEFFI, RICHARD MILNER, MARIAN TESSA, GARY NULL 29240 10/08/78 PART II: HOW TO COPE WITH LONELINESS ERICA ABEEL, DR. 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GREEN 30710 11/19/78 PART II: SUPER SALESMEN JOE GIRARD, LOIS BECKER, TOM WOLF, BOB SHOOK 30710 11/26/78 PART I: STARTLING STORIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH DR. MAURICE RAWLINGS, CHARLES MCKAIG, VIRGINIA FALCY, KENNETH RING, HELEN NELSON, DR. MICHAEL SABOM 30712 11/26/78 PART II: ANGRY CITIZENS VS. THE POST OFFICE JAMES FINCH, BOB GRANT, ROBERT MEYERS, JAMES LAPENTA, PAT BRENNAN 30712 12/03/78 PART I: SURGEON / SALESMAN BILL MACKAY 30714 12/03/78 PART II: LONELY, UNHAPPY & BROKE - DISPLACED HOMEMAKERS FLORENCE GRIFFIN, JACQUELINE BACHMAN, LESLIE WALD WALDHORN, SANDRA JACOBS, JANE LEE LITTLETON 30714 12/10/78 PART I: IF BETTY FORD COULD DO IT - ALL ABOUT FACE LIFTS RICHARD KIELING, LILLIAM FRASER, D. RALPH MILLARD, M.D., DIRIS LILLY, MICHAEL HOGAN, M.D. 30716 12/10/78 PART II: TO JOG OR NOT TO JOG DAVID BRODY, M.D., DAVID NOONAN, RICHARD A.SCHWARTZ, M.D., RICHARD RESTAK, M.D., PAUL FETSCHER 30716 12/17/78 WE WANT A BABY - NEW HOPE FOR INFERTILE COUPLES A. 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NOLEN, M.D. 32129 05/11/80 PART II: SOUTHERN JOURNALISTS TALK ABOUT JIMMY CARTER AND OTHER GOOL OLE BOYS LARRY KING AUTHOR: OF OUTLAWS, CON MEN, WHORES, POLITICIANS AND OTHER ARTIST'S. MARSHALL FRADY, AUTHOR: SOUTHERNERS. ROT BLLUNT JR., AUTHOR: CRACKERS 32132 05/25/80 PART II: THE LAST OF THE COWBOYS - 5 TRUCKERS RUSSELL "CAPTAIN ZIG ZAG" PATE, GEORGE "WILDMAN" RALES, ED "SKY PILOT" WINTERSTEEN, MIKE "DOUBLE R" CRAKER, JAMES "BUCKY" BUCKOWSKI 32134 06/01/80 PART I: BEAT INFLATION WITH DIAMONDS, ART, STAMPS AND COINS NICOLA BULGARI, RICHARD L. FEIGEN, RAYMOND WEIL AND HARVEY STACK 32128 06/01/80 PART II: HOLLYWOOD PRODUCER - JENNINGS LANG JENNINGS LANG 32128 06/08/80 PART I: INFLATION IS KILLING US! 5 ANGRY VICTIMS NITA DENNIS, JOE CURLEY, JOSPEH MULHOLLAND, ANNE AND GEORGE ANDREWS 32133 06/08/80 PART II: MIND OVER BODY - A DEMONSTRATION OF THE MARTIAL ARTS LINDA LUTES AND NELSON HOWE 32133 06/15/80 PART I: UPDATE ON MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGHS - DR. ISADORE ROSENFELD ISADORE ROSENFELD M.D. 32140 06/15/80 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH CORINNA MARSH CORINNA MARSH 32140 06/22/80 WHY ARE THE BULLS RUNNING ON WALL STREET JOSEPH GRANVILLE, BURTON MALKIEL, DAVID DREMAN, RAYMOND DEVOE, JOHN NEFF 32142 06/29/80 PART II: THE TWO PAYCHECK MARRIAGE JUDY HUNT, CHARLES MITCHELL, MEG WHITCOMB, JEANNE CANTEEN, PRATT 32141 10/12/80 A DESPERATE TIME - WILLIAM SIMON ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FORMER TREASURE SECRETARY, WILLIAM E. SIMON 33605 10/19/80 A CONVERSATION WITH HAL GULLIVER HAROLD GULLIVER, EDITOR, ATLANTA CONSTITUTION 33606 11/02/80 - 07/05/81 PART I: BIG, BEAUTIFUL WOMEN - NO SIN TO BE A SIZE 18 MADALINE SPARKS, ILVIRA TORTORA, BARBARA BETZA, STELL REICHMAN, LILLIAM NILSON 33602 11/02/80 - 07/05/81 PART II: IS THIN STILL IN? SUZIE BERTIN, JILL DIRKS, JOHNA JOHNSON, BARBARA PEARLMAN 33602 11/09/80 - 10/04/81 PART I: MEET AND MARRY THROUGH THE PERSONAL ADS JUDI MCMAHON, BILL JAMES, STEPHEN T. HEYMANN, STEPHANIE KAPILIAN, BOB EVANS 32139 11/09/80 - 10/04/81 PART II: NO KIDS FOR US PLEASE SNNE SEIFERT, WALTER CALLAHAN, BARBARA COFFEY, DOROTHY WILSON, IVAN MENDELSON 32139 11/16/80 - 07/12/81 PART I: LIFE AFTER DARK - NIGHT PEOPLE TELL ALL RICHARD WEXLER, CINDY CAPALDO, BLEECKER BOB PLOTNIK, ABLE ABEL, SAVARIO COSTANZA 33601 11/23/80 - 09/20/81 PART I: WOMEN RATE MEN: LOVERS AND LOSERS NAN ROBERTSON, SUSANNA HOFFMAN, CAROL BOTWIN 32136 11/30/80 PART I: THE JEANING OF AMERICA: MODELS, MOGULS AND MAKERS JOSEPH NAKASH (JORDACHE), PAUL GUEZ (SASSOON), WARREN HIRSH (GLORIA VANDERBILT) 33603 11/30/80 PART II: NOT FOR WOMEN ONLY - MEN'S COSMETICS TONY CARVETTE (GEORGETTE KLINGER), TOM DAY (CLINIQUE), JAN STUART (JAN STUART), CHIP TOLBERT (MENS FASHION ASSOCIATION), PAUL WILMOT (HALSTON) 33603 12/07/80 - 08/02/81 PART II: A CONVERSATION WITH MICHAEL THOMAS MICHAEL THOMAS, AUTHOR GREEN MONDAY 33609 12/14/80 - 07/18/81 PART I: ARE LAWYERS RUINING OUR LIVES? PHILIP M. STERN, GEOFFREY C. HAZARD, FRANK R. ROSINY, ALAN B. MORISON, JUDGE WILLIAM B. LAWLESS 33607 12/14/80 PART II: NORMAN DACEY, ROSEMARY FURMAN 33607 12/21/80 - 08/30/81 PART I: FEELING GOOD ALL UNDER - THE ELEGANT NEW LINGERIE REBECCA ASPAN, BELL TICE, ORA FEDER, DAVID STIFFLER, SAMI 33613 12/21/80 - 08/30/81 PART II: BEST FRIENDS AND BEST SELLERS CONSUELO BAEHR, SUSAN ISAACS, HILMA WOLITZER 33613 12/28/80 THE REMARKABLE JONATHAN SCHWARTZ - A SPECAL PERFORMANCE JONATHAN SCHWATRZ 33612 01/11/81 - 09/13/81 PART I: THE INCREDIBLE WORLD OF MOTHER TERESA JOYCE DAVIDSON SUSSKIND 33608 01/11/81 - 09/13/81 PART II: HOW TO SUCCEED? GO TO BUSINESS SCHOOL SUSAN THOMAS, JED DALY, ROBERT FRIEDMAN, JAY ESSEY. ELIZABETH CLOSTERMAN 33608 01/18/81 - 04/15/84 PART I: WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE JOHN SIMON, RICHARD MITCHELL, EDWIN NEWMAN 33611 01/18/81 PART II: WHERE THE BODIES ARE BURIED - WASHINGTON LOWDOWN DONALD LAMBRO, CHARLES PETERS, MICHAEL J. MALBIN, FRANK SILBEY 33611 01/25/81 PART II: HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR EATING HABITS RICHARD S. RIVLIN M.D., RICHARD PASSWATER, DR. ROBERT PALMER, JOSEPH RECHTSCHAFFEN M.D. 33616 02/08/81 - 08/23/81 PART I: TAKE THOSE INCHES OFF! SHAPE UP WITH EXCERCISE MARJORIE CRAIG, LYDIA BACH, CHARLES GAINES, MARUSCHKA 33614 02/08/81 - 08/23 81 PART II: THE ESTABLISHMENT LEONARD AND MARK SILK, STEPHEN BIRMINGHAM 33614 02/15/81 CELEBRITY WATCHING WITH LIZ SMITH, TAKI, JAMES BRADY AND JODY JACOBS 33620 02/22/81 HOW TO SURVIVE AND PROSPER IN THE 80'S HOWARD RUFF, DOUGLAS CASEY, JEROME SMITH, THOMAS HOLT 33621 03/01/81 - 08/09/81 PART 1: PRETTY BABIES - THE NEW TEEN AGE MODELS BETTINA, LORI LOUGHLIN, CATHLEEN ESS, FELICE SCHACHTER, LENA REID 33619 03/01/81 - 08/09/81 PART II: ARE YOUR CHILDREN BECOMING ADULTS TOO SOON? DR. AARON HASS, PATRICIA O'BRIEN, ARTHUR KORNHABER M.D., ADELE HOFFMAN, M.D. 33619 03/08/81 BIGOTRY RIDES AGAIN WILLIAM SLOANE COFFIN, ARNOLD FORSTER, WILLIAM A. FUSHER, CONGRESSMAN JOHN CONYERS, DR. M. MORAN WESTON 33622 03/15/81 THE BATTLE FOR SURVIVAL - THE AMERICAN AUTO INDUSTRY WENDELL H. MILLER, STEPHEN L. SCHLOSSBERG, TOM HANNA, JERRY FLINT, DAVID HEALY 33623 03/22/82 - 07/26/81 PART I: POURING OUT YOUR TROUBLES - BARTENDERS TELL ALL PADDY QUINN, CHARLIE SCHOENEMAN, RAY FOLEY, JOHN "SHIRTS" HUGHES, KITTY FITZKE 33615 03/22/81 - 07/26/81 PART II: TWINS WHO MARRIED TWINS BARBI GOLDENBERG, D.D.S., BRUCE GOLDENBERG, D.D.S., CHERYL GOLDENBERG, D.D.S., BARRY GOLDENBERG, D.D.S., 33615 03/29/81 - 09/27/81 THE MORAL MAJORITY ON THE WAR PATH DR. TIM LA HAYE, DR. DAN C. FORE, SENATOR FRANK CHURCH. DR. DANIEL C. MAQUIRE 33624 04/05/81 - 08/16/81 PART I: WOMEN AND SUCCESS - MAKING IT TO THE TOP JUDY MELLO, ANNE P. HYDE, SUSAN HOROWITZ, PAULA D. HUGHES, JO FOXWORTH 33625 04/05/81 - 08/16/81 - 05/06 84 PART II: THE TRUTH ABOUT SENILITY ROBERT N. BUTLER, M.D., DENNETH L. DAVIS, M.D., DR. PETER DAVIES, DR. ROSE ROBROF 33625 04/12/81 PART I: BANKS ON THE BRINK MURIEL SIEBERT, LEE GUNDERSON, H. ERICH HEINEMANN, WILLIAM E. DONOGHUE, DR. SAUL B. KLAYMAN 33626 04/12/81 - 05/20/84 PART II: DOCTORS WIVES CARLA FINE, LINDA SHIPLEY, LINDA SEDA, LORI TAYLOR 33626 04/26/81 THE AMERICAN MILITARY MACHINE: ARE WE READY FOR BATTLE? CONGRESSMAN JIM COURTER, BARRY R. POSEN, BRIGADIER GENERAL ALBION KNIGHT JR., EDWARD LUTTWALK, GENERAL VOLNEY F. WARNER 33628 05/10/81 FROM HOLLYWOOD TO BROADWAY - PART II: MCCANN AND NUGENT NELLE NUGENT AND ELIZABETH MCCANN 33631 05/18/81 PART I: HOMELESS AND HELPLESS - PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS ANN MARIE ROUSSEAU, WILLIAM KUEHNE, ANTON GALENOS, SELMA (MARIE) PRICE, SYD ROLFS, VERONICA (VIRGINIA) WILLIAMS, GENE PALMER 33632 05/17/81 PART II: SPORTS AMERICAN STYLE: BIG, BRUISING BUSINESS DICK SHAAP, PETER BONVENTRE, MIKE LUPICA, DAN JENKINS 33632 05/24/81 PART I: SURVIVALISTS: PREPARING FOR DOOMSDAY KURT SAXON, JOSEPH RUSTICK M.D., ROBERT FIRTH, GENE AND PEARL TARMAN 33633 05/24/81 PART II: DELAYED MOTHERHOOD - HAVING CHILDREN AT AGE 35 JULIE HOUSTON, LYNN POVICH, JACQULINE PESUT, LUISA LA VIOLA, DR. PEGGY EWING 33633 06/07/81 PART II: A VANISHING BREED - THE PROFESSIONAL VOLUNTEER VIVIAN HARRIS, MARY LINDSAY, JEAN DELAFIELD, ISABELLE STEVENSON, GLORIA W. MILLIKEN 33635 06/14/81 PART II: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TONY AWARDS ALEXANDER H. COHEN, HILDY PARKS 33636 06/21/81 PART I: REPORT FROM THREE DOCTORS - THE LATEST IN MEDICINE ISADORE ROSENFELD, M.D., DR. JOHN H. LARAGH, DR. JOSEPH WILDER 33630 06/21/81 PART II: HOW TO SUE WITHOUT A LAWYER JOHN STRIKER, ANDREW SHAPIRO 33630 06/28/81 PART I: SHOW BUSINESS COUPLES RENEE TAYLOR, JOSEPH BOLOGNA, MERGE REDMOND, JACK WESTON 33634 06/28/81 PART II: WHO REMEMBERS CARTER - JOSEPH CALIFANO DOES, THAT'S WHO 33634 10/11/81 - 08/08/82 STARTING OVER AFTER DIVORCE: MIDDLE AGED SINGLES RICHARD SCHICKEL, ANNE PARK, MARTHA HUGHES, STEVEN BRALOVE, RITA MCDOWELL 33637 10/18/81 - 08/01/82 PART I: THE REAL CHORUS LINE: BROADWAY DANCERS DONNA DRAKE, BOB HEATH, MARYBETH KURDOCK, DAVID EVANS, RON SCHWINN, JOAN BELL, DEAN BADOLATE, MARY ANN NILES 33638 10/18/81 - 08/01/82 PART II: FACES IN THE CROWD - MOVIE EXTRAS ROZ BRAVERMAN, ANDREW MURPHY, BARRY WISEMAN, SHANNON SORIN, VELA CERES 33638 10/25/81 PART I: MAKING MARRIAGE WORK: MARRIAGE COUNSELORS LAURA SINGER, DR. ROBERT RYDER, DR. MEL KRANTZLER, DR. FREDERICK HUMPHREY 35451 10/25/81 PART II: DIVORCE MEDIATORS DR. JOHN M. HAYNES, LAWRENCE GAUGHAN, SAMUEL MARGUILES, VIRGINIA STAFFORD 35451 11/01/81 WHAT PLASTIC SURGERY CAN DO FOR YOU DR. RALPH MILLARD, DR. CHRISTOPHER WEATHERLEY-WHITE, DR. BRUCE CONNELL, DR. MICHAEL HOGAN 35452 11/08/81 - 07/18/82 PART II: THE MYSTERY OF SLEEP DR. RICHARD BOOTZIN, DR. QUENTIN REGESTEIN, DR. ELLIOT WEITZMAN 35453 11/15/81 PART I: MOTHERS WITHOUT CUSTODY ELLEN KIMBALL, "JACKIE", BARBARA 35455 11/15/81 PART II: CAMPUS CONSERVATIVES KEENEY JONES, JOHN GOODWIN, BENNETT COOPER, TERRY QUIST 35455 11/22/81 PART I: A TALK WITH FATHER THEODORE HESBURGH 34556 11/29/81 - 07/04/82 PART I: THE SWINGERS PARADISE OF CLUB MED ROD FRANKEL, DOREEN WOODRUM, SUSAN FRAYTUS, RICKY DETRES, BOB LEIGHTON, CLAUDE KEBBE 35454 11/29/81 - 07/04/82 PART II: RETURN TO THE NEST STEPHANIE GANGI, TOM RIPP, FRANK SCHIRALLI, SCOTT MARTONE, ANGELA DIVERGILIO 35454 12/20/81 - 06/27/82 PART I: DON'T GO NEAR THE WATER! ELEGANT NEW SWIMWEAR LIZA BRUCE, ANNE COLE, STANLEY REGENBOGAN, FRANK FRIEND, MIRIAM RUZOW 35459 12/20/81 - 06/27/82 - 01/08/84 - 07/22/84 - 02/16/86 PART II: ALL ABOUT HANGOVERS DAVID OUTERBRIDGE, NELSON DEMILLE, PETER WALSH, HERBERT GOULD, M.D. 35459 01/03/82 PART I: AN INTERVIEW WITH GLADYCE BEGELMAN: CO-AUTHOR OF "NEW YORK ON $1000.00 A DAY" 35457 01/03/82 - 08/29/82 - 04/01/84 PART II: CAN YOU ERASE THOSE WRINKLES? THE TRUTH ABOUT SILICON AND COLLAGEN DR. LEWIS FEDER. DR. ROBERT AUERBACH, DR. JAMES LEYDEN 35457 01/20/82 - 07/25/82 PART I: TOUGHLOVE: PARENTS FIGHT BACK PHYLLIS AND DAVID YORK, LANE PEER, RICHARD SURVING, JEAN BAKER WUNDER 35459 01/10/82 - 07/25/82 PART II: ALL ABOUT CATS ANITRA FRAZIER, SIMON BOND, SAMANTHA SUSSKIND, JERRY BENISATTO, PATRICIA NELL WARREN, RICHARD GEBHARDT 35459 01/17/82 - 08/15/82 PART I: WEIGHT LOSS NORMA SKOPIN, STEVE SILVA, GERALDINE O'CONNOR, ANNE MCCARTHY, IRENE CURTIN 35459 01/17/82 - 08/15/82 - 03/25/84 - 09/16/84 - 02/09/86 - 07/06/86 PAT II: "LISA H." OPERATION LINTON WHITAKER, M.D., JAMES KATOWITZ, M.D., DEREK BRUCE, M.D., CH.B 35462 01/24/82 "NO MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE NOT BETTER OFF" PART I: VICTIMS OF THE BUDGET CUTS MATILDE COLON, ZELDA WEINER, MARY GARBUTT, MURIEL ZGARDOWSKI, MARY GALE 35463 02/07/82 - 09/26/82 PART I: BACHELORS OF THE MONTH MICHAEL JEFFREY GRIFFITH, PETER KUHN, O. STEVEN FREDRICKSON, JIM ZERBE, JOEL DIAMOND 35465 02/07/82 - 09/26/82 PART II: CHIROPRACTORS VS. M.D.'S DR. STEPHEN BARRETT, LOUIS SPORTELLI, D.C., CHESTER WILK, D.C., REUBEN HOPPENSTEIN, M.D. 35465 02/21/82 WHO'S HOT, WHO'S NOT - WHO'S IN, WHO'S OUT - THE LATEST GOSSIP MADELLEINE SCHAAP, MAXINE MESSINGER, LIZ SMITH, JAMES BRADY, BOB COLACELLO 35467 02/28/82 PART I: ASTROLOGERS PREDICRT WHAT'S IN THE STARS FOR 1982 MARIA ELISA CRUMMERE, MARTIN SCHULMAN, DARRELL MARTINI, MAE WILSON-LUDLAM 35464 02/28/82 PART II: SABINA SHALOM 35464 03/07/82 THE WILD WORLD OF SPORTS DICK SCHAPP, DAN JENKINS, MIKE LUPICA, DAVE ANDERSON, MIKE DOWNEY 35469 03/07/82 TRAVELLING SALESMEN JIM O'CONNOR, JOEL KATZ, JIM PRENDERGAST, DICK ORNSTEIN 35469 03/14/82 - 07/11/82 CRIMINALS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER PHIL SEELIG, BILL CLARK, JUDGE EDWIN TORRES, SEYMOUR WISHMAN 35471 03/21/82 - 09/12/82 PART I: ARE WOMEN THEIR OWN WORST ENEMIES? MARY VANN HUNTER, MONIQUE VAN VOOREN, KATHRYN LIVINGSTON, DORIS LILLY 35471 03/21/82 - 09/12/82 PART II: NICE GIRLS DO DR. IRENE KASSORLA 35471 04/04/82 - 08/29/82 SUPERMOMS COLETTE ROSSANR, KATHRYN DARROW, MEG WHITCOMB, PENNY HAWKEY 35470 04/18/82 PUBLIC SERVICE OR PUBLIC RIP OFF? - UTILITIES EDWARD LARKIN, EDWARD HYNES, THOMAS FITZPATRICK, KAREN BURSTEIN, CAROL BARGER, ALFRED NARDELLI 35473 04/25/82 ON THE VERGE OF RUIN: AMERICA'S DESPERATE FARMERS NITA GIBSON, WAYNE CRYTS, JOHN STULP, PETER CURRA, VAREL BAILEY 35476 05/02/82 COUNTDOWN TO DOOMSDAY: THE NUCLEAR ARMS DEBATE ADMIRAL ELMO ZUMWALT, DR. DANIEL MACGUIRE, DR. SCOTT THOMPSON, JACK GEIGER, M.D., FRITZ ERMARTH, CONGRESSMAN THOMAS DOWNEY 35477 05/09/82 PART I: FAST AND FUNNY - COLLEGE DEBATERS DAVID BAILIN, HARRY WALTERS, LARRY EICHENFIELD, EDWARD O'TOOLE, DAVID KIDD, J.J. GERTLER, GRANT OLIPHANT, RICHARD SOMMER 35473 05/09/82 PART II: VIDEO GAME CRAZE EDWIN VELAQUEZ, CRAIG ROSS, JEFF LOMBARDI, OPHELLA VONBRANDON, JOHNNY ZADUBARA, NANDO RAMOS, MICHAEL BLANCHET 35473 05/23/82 - 10/03/82 "I'M ON WELFARE AND I HATE IT" - A WELFARE MOTHER SHARON HUNT 35478 05/30/82 PART I: NOT FOR MEN ONLY - BLUE COLLAR WOMEN TINA NANNARONE, LAURA SCHWARTZ, JANE KELLEY, SHARON HOLMES, JUDY HUGHES 35480 05/30/82 PART II: OUT OF CASH - TRY BARTER ANNIE PROULX, JERRY WEINER, GENE HOLYZMAN, CONNIE STAPLETON 35480 06/13/82 WHO CAN AFFORD COLLEGE ANYMORE? - PART I: ADMINISTRATORS JAMES POWELL, STEPHEN TRACHTENBERG, WILLIAM MAXWELL, HARVEY GROTRAIN 35482 06/13/82 WHO CAN AFFORD COLLEGE ANYMORE? - PART II: PARENTS JOSEPH ZULLO, JOHN KAUFMAN, FREDERIC KRAMER, GLORIA GATTI, ALEXANDRA GREELEY 35482 06/20/82 NO MORE LAND OF PLENTY NORMAN BERG, KREKEL KARCH, NEIL SAMPSON 35484 06/20/82 CAREER COUNSELORS JOHN CRYSTAL, STANLEY HYMAN, ROBERT SWAIN, IRENE ANSHER 35484 10/24/82 - 08/28/83 TOP TRIAL LAWYERS DEMONSTRATE THE ART OF JURY SELECTION PHILIP CORBOY, HAROLD PRICE FAHRINGER, AARON BRODER, BILL COLSON 35483 10/31/82 - 07/17/83 PART I: COCAINE: A 30 BILLION DOLLAR EPIDEMIC ROBERT MILLMAN, M.D., ANDY KOWL, TOM HENDERSON, "AMY" "A.J.", "LIZA" 35475 11/21/82 - 01/26/86 - 05/25/86 - 08/17/86 PART I: DOLLAR A DANCE - TAXI DANCERS ARIEL LUCAS, PAUL PRICKETT, PENNY PRUCHA, ELLEN STOKES, CAROL SUNDQUIST 37030 02/27/83 PART II: THE MYSTERY OF THE COMMON COLD STEVEN MOSTOW, M.D., R. 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MAYOR DE BLASIO EBOLA PRESSER / HD
EXT BROLL NEW YORK CITY MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO PRESSER ON EBOLA NY INTERPLAY SLUG: 5515 WABC DE BLASIO PRESSER MAYOR 5146 Introduction of Melissa Mark Viverito, Council speaker. MELISSA VIVERITO 5231 I wanted to just take a moment as a New Yorker outside of the hat of speaker to personally thank you Mr. Mayor. 5354 So our city is working really hard at all levels, every single one, my colleagues here in government, we all play a role to address this issue in New York with clear protocols and obviously also with compassion for anyone who may be impacted. 5419 Our thoughts and prayers remain with Dr. Spencer and we thank him for bravely helping and taking care of individuals abroad who may not have the same access to resources and medical care as we do here in the United States and especially here in New York City. 5436 Obviously now it is our turn to help him and that is exactly what the brave members of FDNY EMS stations 10, 13, and 14 did by transferring Dr. Spencer from his home to Bellevue Hospital. These EMS workers went above and beyond to make sure the patient would get the care he needed while also observing the necessary protocols to ensure that our city was kept safe from any potential threat or exposure. 5503 Being a member of FDNY and EMS takes commitment compassion and bravery. (Thanks them). 5521 [Spanish] MAYOR 5547 Introduces Borough President of Brooklyn Eric Adams. ERIC ADAMS, BOROUGH PRESIDENT OF BROOKLYN 5610 I too want to add my voice and...recalling how when you wear a hazmat suit and the challenge of doing a difficult job when you're wearing a difficult suit...remarkable. 5709 They immediately use their training their brain and training muscle kick into gear where they don't have to wonder what to do. Countless hours of practicing of drilling, countless hours of tabletops, countless hours of scenarios and knowing how to respond. They were ready. 5730 They were prepared they were just waiting for the moment for Ebola to hit the soil of New York so they can implement what they already was prepared for. We have a great group of men and women in this city who are our first responders. MAYOR 5820 Applaud these individuals. Q&A 3837 Mayor or the commissioner, what kind of efforts are being made to monitor these EMS workers so that we don't have a Dallas situation where there was a mistake made. I mean, I don't know if their temperature is taken every day or what it is. And the second thing is, despite everything you've said about their bravery and all of the great work they've done, weren't they a little bit afraid? 5858 MAYOR: Let me say a couple of things before I turn to the Commissioner, first of all I talked to some of these individuals to ask that very same question, how did it feel? And what I always admired about our first responders is the response is always something like, "all in a day's work." 5916 MAYOR: There's a certain calm focused tranquil attitude that makes them so good at what they do. I don't think every human being is meant for this level of work I think it's a special kind of human being who can do this work. . 5953 MAYOR: I want to emphasize, I gave a lot of respect to the folks in Dallas and the leadership in Dallas who have come out very openly and said, we wish we had done things differently and they've been very honest about it and they've actually reached out around the country trying to share with others the lessons they learned. 140009 MAYOR: And those lessons have been taken to heart, so I think the very fact that the buddy system that's in place here, the great deal of care that's taken in every step of the process, speaks volumes about the fact that we believe this is a very secure approach to protecting the health and wellbeing of our first responders. 0029 MAYOR: I mentioned being on the isolation floor at Bellevue the other day, the number of steps taken, the number of people supervising, the checks and balances, this is supremely professional work being done by great professionals. So, what happened in Dallas was very very sad and they've owned up to that fact. 0051 MAYOR: When people are in country in the three affected countries, obviously medical professionals are dealing with exceedingly difficult conditions, although thank god the ones--the medical professionals who have come back, even those who got sick in one of the three countries, brought back here were able to fully recover. 0109 MAYOR: But, I think the bottom line to your question is there's a tremendous amount of care being done to monitor each and every step along the way. 0116 COMMISSIONER: Well, I think that's very true and the members certainly trust their training and they trust their equipment, and the manner in which they suit up, the manner in which they doff or decontaminate certainly protects them from exposure. 0129 That being said, with an excess of caution we do monitor the members temperature for 21 days. But, we do not believe it's an exposure, we do not treat it as an exposure, the members don't take it as such, they are fully confident in what they do and how they do it. 0148 Is there anyone here from the FDNY who was involved in the operation who can describe what it was like a little bit? 0152 MAYOR: There are people here who were involved...but the attitude is that they are a team they work as a unit they want to be thought of as a unit. 0209 Mr. Mayor you've mentioned in recent days or in the past week that the city's public health system, specifically Bellevue, has benefitted from some of the experiences that we've dealt with in the city like the AIDS epidemic. I'm wondering if there's a parallel here if there's certain scenarios of hazmat or otherwise that the city's EMS force has trained for, especially in the wake of 9/11, that have helped us be more prepared now? 0238 MAYOR: Let me--to the commissioner or anyone else who wants to speak to the question, what did we learn from 9/11 that's helping us now. But, just one point on the reality of Bellevue that speaks to the same thing, that unit that is playing a crucial role right this moment. 0337 MAYOR: That was from a crisis 20 years ago, no one was thinking we'd ever see Ebola on our shores, but the work done in that time has given us the foundation to handle Dr. Spencer safely and to protect the first responders in the process. 0355 COMMISSIONER: Especially what's gone on in the world since 9/11, of course the fire dept. has been training itself since and preparing for any possibility any possible type of attack. Therefore we have units that are prepared for chemical, biological agents, that type of training and that type of equipment lent itself to this type of event, in which people are comfortable in operating in these types of suits. 0421 COMMISSIONER: Ebola coming just presented itself as an opportunity to use their training. 0430 Mayor, has anyone from Dallas reached out to New York City and if so, what advice have they given? 0436 MAYOR: I got a very gracious call from the Mayor Dallas, Mayor Rawlings. .. If there's any part of history that would be helpful . he was really extraordinary and really ready to help. 0501 MAYOR: Clearly what's happened was that when I was on the isolation floor at Bellevue the other day is doctors are talking to other doctors in the country as a normal part of perfecting the treatment. Literally while I was there they were on the phone with Nebraska and Emory University talking through treatment approaches, so there's been a great spirit in the medical community, in the emergency medical services community to share what they're learning as they go along. 0530 MAYOR: And that has become really a national phenomenon. 0534 The stakes of Dallas and this city would be (unintel)? 0536 MAYOR: Well look I think what's clear and I'll speak and the commissioner and others may want to add...what happened in Dallas was that there wasn't a clear protocol that every individual up and down the food chain understood, right? And that has been the difference here. And I give credit to all the great leaders of our agencies, Commissioner Nigro, to Commissioner Bratton, Commissioner Bassett, Dr. Raju (sp?), all of them have been working together for weeks and weeks perfecting the protocols and the messages that have to be clearly articulated to each and every member of their agencies. 0614 And that's why it worked. Everyone knew what their role was and everyone knew to communicate with their supervisors and get information up the chain of command so that could be acted on quickly. 0628 So, I think uh there's been nothing Ad Hoc about the New York City response. Everything is meticulously planned and drilled and there's constant communication. I've been very struck you know, we had a series of meetings where we were doing planning with a whole host of agencies. And everyone has continued talking to each other trying to make sure that each other had what they needed. It's been very powerful. The other day when um, we've obviously had a number of different situations where we had to work with community folks. 0657 And um in light of the situation in Dr. Spencer's building or even last night with this five year old child, to see the way that EMS and FDNY have played a role, NYPD has played a very active role, working with community residents as I said. Health departments have people on the scene and the whole goal has been to support each other in the effort. 0723 When we brought Dr. Spencer's fiancée back to the apartment, just seamless coordination between all the agencies. I think everyone knows that the other agencies have their back and that's something that wasn't as obvious in other places. That's become a clear tradition here in New York City. 0753 MAYOR: So on Dr. Spencer, condition remains serious, but stable. Emphasizing we've said for a few days, that this is the tough part of the trajectory that things will get worse before they get better. Um so he's got some tough days ahead, but I mention my conversation with him a few days ago. He's got an extraordinary spirit. Everyone I've talked to that's been involved in his direct treatments say he's a fighter. He, um, he's keeping his sense of humor despite everything he's dealing with and he's getting the best care in the world. But it will be a challenging next few days. 0837 Can you describe exactly from the EMTs perspective what happens when the 911 call comes in and there's a possible Ebola patient, what exactly is happening, what are they doing first, do they gear up after they arrive on the scene, or they...how does it all happen? 0853 COMMISSIONER: Sure, it comes in a "call fever transport case, suspected case of Ebola," it goes to a specific group of units in the city, haztac ambulances. They suit up on the scene and their equipment protects them entirely from contact with the patient from head to toe. 0913 COMMISSIONER: That patient is transported, they're met at the hospital by another team from the fire dept. of decontamination specialists who assist them in taking the gear off when that time comes, so that no breach occurs. 0928 COMMISSIONER: And that's pretty much in a nutshell from start to finish. 0935 How many people right now are you directly monitoring, calling up and asking what their temperatures are etc. etc. per day. And also, where are we right how as far as quarantining is concerned [unintell] our standards are concerned. And can you talk about if there's any pressure from the White House to change the standards of quarantine. 0957 MAYOR: if think the fact is, you know the CDC put out some additional you know, standards yesterday. We're working with them, we're working with our state gov. our state health dept. We know this is, as I said this is a fast evolving situation and every level of government is keeping up with the situation and making decisions accordingly. 1018 MAYOR: We believe fundamentally that the approach we're taking is working here in the city and we'll continue to do that but we by definition--I said very clearly, there's a hierarchy here that's very important to respect in a time of crisis. 1034 MAYOR: State government, federal government, we're working with everyone in constant communication with everyone. We've got folks the three folks obviously who were in direct contact with Dr. Spencer, his fiancé and two friends, in quarantine, they're checked twice a day. 1053 MAYOR: I get reports as they're checked all of them have continued to have absolutely good health, no fever, no symptoms, so that's very good news. We are now have begun as of yesterday additionally, monitoring individuals who have come back from the affected countries but have shown no symptoms. 1114 MAYOR: In other words, upon arrival they did not have symptoms they did not have a history of being around anyone with the disease, but per CDC guidelines we're doing the extra thing, we're going the extra mile and reaching out to them. As we have continued that outreach, no one has shown any symptoms or had anything that was concerning, so that will continue for each individual until they get to the 21 day mark. 1140 What about the medical--If you could talk about the capacity of the city to handle a number of cases, if you were to get 8 or 10 people that have suspected Ebola at once can the commissioner.? 1153 MAYOR: I'll speak about the overview and then the commissioner can certainly speak about in particular the capacity of haztac and hazmat, which is very substantial. We now have five facilities determined by the state to be particularly able to handle an Ebola case. 1212 MAYOR: Bellevue being the first among them. Those facilities have adequate capacity, we I'm thrilled to say, we have news today to say that the one additional suspected case is not a case of Ebola, it's a different respiratory disease thank God, but again that child needs treatment for that disease and he will get that treatment at Bellevue. 1235 MAYOR: But to date we have the one case, we have capacity at all five hospitals, so we re prepared on that front. 1248 COMMISSIONER: Well I would hesitate to say unlimited but we have 36 haztac and rescue ambulances in the city of New York, we have four engine companies that are prepared to do decon along with the squad companies and rescue companies. 1303 COMMISSIONER: I don't see--and these people can, once they're deconned, can go back into service and transport another patient. So, we're certainly not concerned with being overloaded at this time with the possibility of too many folks to transport. 1319 Could you go back to the quarantine question again, Commissioner Basset has said that given the way the state's policy was unveiled that there were two to three passengers that would come to JFK a day that might meet the quarantine criteria, so far the dept. of health has said that there's no one else who's being quarantined. Is the city following the states quarantine? 1340 MAYOR: Well, absolutely we're working very closely with the city. Let's be clear, the quarantine criteria, meaning you're meeting one of two scenarios. You're either a medical professional who worked directly with people afflicted with Ebola or you are a average citizen who was in one of the three countries and in contact with someone who was directly affected by Ebola. 1401 MAYOR: Since the announcement of those standards, to the best of my understanding no one has arrived who met those qualifications but because the CDC guidelines, even if someone arrived who did not meet those qualifications, simply had been in one of those three countries, we will continue to monitor them but that does not require quarantine. 1420 How many medical professionals are being monitored so having their temperature taken twice a day--the doctors at Bellevue, the EMTs, how many medical professionals? 1431 MAYOR: I can't give you the exact number certainly our colleagues at the dept. of health and at HHC can tell you how the Bellevue scenario is being handled. But I can tell you from my own experience, as I said I went on the isolation floor and came off and they said here's your thermometer. It's pretty common for health professionals to know that that is something to do constantly and it's not a burden for them. 1451 MAYOR: It's part of their work. 1454 What is the capacity for the group at Bellevue to handle Ebola and could you just go over the four other facilities? 1503 MAYOR: Yeah, there's four beds at Bellevue and then the other facilities are Montefiore, Sinai, Columbia Presbyterian, and Long Island Jewish. 1517 There are many African citizens being stigmatized because of what is happening right now. To young boys were brutally beaten Friday and the African community hasn't seen you around and some people are wondering when you will be coming to reassure them. 1537 MAYOR: We've obviously been focused on the core of our response, that's been job one to make sure that everything we have to do to serve people is in place. 1547 MAYOR: I will say before Thursday Dr. Bassett had spent substantial time reaching out to members of African-American communities as had a number of my officials of my administration. What happened to those two young men is unconscionable and unacceptable, we've made that very clear. 1604 MAYOR: We won't tolerate any bullying, any stereotyping, any stigmatizing, the school involved stepped in very aggressively and I think has sent a clear message to that school community that this will not be accepted. So, I mentioned separately a few days ago that some nurses from Bellevue had also suffered discrimination. 1625 MAYOR: Because they were affiliated with Bellevue and I couldn't think of anything more unfair than treating folks who are doing work on our behalf with a sense of discrimination so, the message all over the city is, the situation is under control, this is a very difficult disease to contract, again only through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an individual who has the disease, not airborne, not casual contact, people have to pay attention to those facts. 1656 MAYOR: Show absolute respect for all New Yorkers show respect for members of the African immigrant community in our city and I certainly will continue to get that message across and I look forward to meeting with members of the community as well. 1708 Governor Christie was asked yesterday whether he would apologize to the nurse who was held in Newark- 1729 Uh Governor Christie was asked yesterday whether he would apologize to the nurse who's now in Maine and he refused to apologize. I think you criticized what happened over there. Do you think he owes her an apology? 1743 MAYOR: You know again this is a moment that's not about personalities .This is something a little more serious than everyday current events you know, this is a crisis. And so what I want to say is that Nurse Hickox is a hero. Um she went and did something that few people would do to try and protect others and to protect this country. Uh we're going to need a lot more medical professionals like her to go and serve just like our military is going to go and serve. 1812 So she did not deserve what happened to her. It was absolutely unfair and inappropriate. She was treated disrespectfully and she was not even given the dignity of being informed of the circumstance and why she was being treated that way. 1824 So to me, I think it is not about looking back. It's about one, truly honoring the people that do that work and supporting them, recruiting more people to do that work, and providing support in that process. Um and recognizing that anyone who has served upon arrival should be treated as a returning hero. Thanks everyone. This is tape turn on RS 5515 INGEST IS ROLLING SOURCE: WABC NO EMBARGO NNS CAN HAVE, STANDARD NYC EMBARGOES APPLY UPDATED PUBLIC SCHEDULE FOR MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2014 ***Updated: Added Press Arrival Instructions for the 12:30 PM Media Availability*** On Tuesday, Mayor de Blasio will visit FDNY EMS Station 10 to thank FDNY members involved in the transfer of Dr. Spencer from his apartment to Bellevue Hospital. The Mayor's visit will be closed press. Following the visit, he will hold a media availability, and there will be Q-and-A. In the evening, the Mayor and First Lady Chirlane McCray will host Gracie Mansion's Halloween Open House. This event will be open press, and there will be no Q-and-A. Press Schedule 12:30 PM - Holds Media Availability 1918 First Avenue New York, NY 10029 Once at the location, turn right onto 99th Street and move toward the end of 99th Street. Just before the FDR, the station will be on your right. Press should enter at 99th Street and FDR. Footage will be provided by NYC TV and will be available shortly following the event on Encompass Port CTY- 4205. Official photos will be available at flickr.com/nycmayorsoffice <http://www.flickr.com/nycmayorsoffice> shortly following the event. Kaci Hickox, the nurse forced into quarantine at a New Jersey Hospital even though she showed no symptoms of Ebola, is now back in Maine. He lawyer told ABC News Hickox was "very pleased" the state released her and that she is now at an "undisclosed location" where she can get "some rest and relaxation." The Hickox case has brought to light the muddle of state and federal guidelines over how health-workers coming from Ebola-infected countries are treated. In NYC, the 5 year-old boy who tested negative for Ebola at Bellevue hospital, still remains in isolation, there. And in Atlanta, nurse Amber Vinson is now Ebola-free and will be discharged from Emory Hospital this afternoon.
PENTAGON BRIEFING WITH STG HILL AND SGT SAFI
Videoconference from Afghanistan with ISAF Command Sergeant Major Marvin Hill and Sergeant Major of the Afghan National Army Roshan Safi SLUGGED: 1030 DOD BRIEF ISO RS46 71 AR: 4X3 DISC# 149 **FED TO NY ON 5102** COL. DAVID LAPAN (director, Directorate for Press Operations, Office of the Secretary of Defense): I'd like to welcome to the Pentagon Briefing Room for the first time, U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major Marvin Hill, the senior enlisted leader of the International Security Assistance Force and U.S. Forces-Afghanistan; as well as Sergeant Major of the Afghan National Army, Afghan Sergeant Major of the Army Roshan Safi. As you would expect, both noncommissioned officers have extraordinary records of service. Command Sergeant Major Hill has spent much of his 33 years of service in the Army in infantry units, during which he deployed multiple times to the Middle East, to include two deployments to Iraq with General Petraeus. He assumed his duties in Afghanistan in September of last year, after serving 21 months as the command senior enlisted leader of U.S. Central Command. Following the fall of the Taliban in 2001, Sergeant Major of the Army Roshan joined the newly established Afghan National Army, serving in positions from squad leader to command sergeant major. 10:39:31 In June 2006, he was appointed as the first sergeant major of the Afghan National Army. He has been instrumental in improving the professionalism of Afghan noncommissioned officers, particularly in terms of training and education. The sergeants major join us today from their headquarters in Kabul. They'll provide a brief operational update and then take your questions. So with that, gentlemen, I will turn it over to you. 10:38:22 SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, good morning, and thank you for having us. I'm excited to have the opportunity to speak with you all today. There's a phrase in Afghanistan called "shana-ba-shana." And "shana-ba-shana" means shoulder to shoulder. And today I'm proud to be sitting shoulder to shoulder with my Afghan counterpart, Sergeant Major of the Army Roshan Safi. I've been working with Sergeant Major Roshan for nearly three years, both at U.S. Central Command and, now, at ISAF. I first met him while he was a student at the United States Army Sergeant Major Academy. And my next encounter with him was at a conference while I was serving as the command sergeant major of Multinational Force Iraq, and then several times while I was serving as the command senior enlisted leader for United States Central Command. I participated in his induction into the hall of honor of the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy and have conducted several battlefield circulations with him since my arrival here at ISAF. He's a true professional, and he has my utmost confidence as the senior enlisted leader who will help lead the Afghan National Army into the future. 10:41:07 To give you a quick overview, the ANA is just one branch of the Afghan national security forces, which also include the Afghan National Police and the Afghan air force. The Afghan National Army, like the entire ANSF, has come a long way in just a short period of time. Since 2009, the ANA has grown more than 56 percent, and over the past year, the ANA has grown by about 50,000 soldiers, and there are more than 23,000 soldiers currently in training. The ANA is consistently meeting its recruiting goals. The ANA not only met the growth objective for 2010, but they reached their target earlier than anticipated. However, the bigger challenge is creating an entire structure of military education and development that will professionalize the entire force. In 2009, 86 percent of the ANA new recruits were literate, and there was no mandatory literacy training. Soldiers faced substandard pay, equipment and quality-of-life shortages, as well as an extremely high attrition rate. Today, there is 100-percent mandatory literacy training, and wages and quality of life has vastly improved. ANA soldiers are outfitted with Afghan-made uniform items and NATO weapons and high- quality equipment. Eleven of the 12 branch schools, to include infantry, engineer and intelligence, are open, and in many cases Afghan soldiers are already taking the lead as instructors. All of this has led to improved morale and high retention. In fact, the attrition rate has already dropped 1.6 percent per month. 10:43:08 Through all of these changes, Sergeant Major of the Army Roshan has been hard at work to expand and professionalize the ANA noncommissioned officer corps. Under Sergeant Major Roshan's leadership, there's been a 76-percent increase in trained, noncommissioned officers. ANA NCOs are already filling key positions such as instructors for professional courses, as well as setting the example for standards and discipline. In 2009, I attended the ribbon-cutting ceremony for the opening of the ANA Sergeants Major Academy. And since then they have completed three six-month courses, graduating more than 60 students, including in the classes ANA, ANP and Afghan border police. The fourth class is currently in session, with Sergeant Major Roshan's Afghan National Police counterpart attending the course today. The school that trains Afghans' most senior noncommissioned officers is Afghan-resourced and Afghan-led. The ANA grows professionally, and so does the relationship between ISAF and the ANA forces. This relationship is based on the shared experiences and -- as ISAF and ANA forces live, train, plan and fight together: true partner(s). As I travel around the country, I'm amazed by the success stories, such as local nationals who were denied economic development by insurgents in Zabul who now have direct road access to major economic and government hubs due to the Afghan-led route-clearance and route-security operations. The elements of the 205th Corps executed this mission by providing security for the people of Zabul and reduced travel time by up to 14 hours while decreasing the locals' possibility of exposure to the IED. But the best person to tell you about the successes of the Afghan National Army is my counterpart, my battle buddy, Sergeant Major of the Army Roshan Safi. SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: Good morning! (Inaudible) -- a soldier and it's a great day to be a soldier. I have the pleasure of working side by side with the ISAF command sergeant major, with Sergeant Major Marvin Hill. Let me give you an overview of the Afghanistan National Army. The Afghanistan National Army is built on the pride of its people. We are an army of all ethnicity group -- (inaudible) -- Pashtun, Tajik, Hazara and Uzbek. 10:45:41 The army is a well-respected organization because of its soldiers. We take pride in being the protector of the people and the nation. We are here to serve the people. The army has gone from one battalion, approximately 152,000 soldiers and growing. We have -- (inaudible) -- need a military force to better fight our country's enemies, to protect our nation and preserve our way of life. An army cannot exist if it is not well organized and well trained. The training that NATO, NATO force have given us made our leader and soldier disciplined, disciplined and professionals. 10:46:50 We have received a lot of support from the United States and coalition force. And as a result, we have begun to take the lead in a number of combat operation. We are well on our way to taking full control and leading our all-combat operation by 2014. By working shoulder to shoulder today, we will be -- stand on our own tomorrow. SGT. MAJ. HILL (?): Hoo-ah. SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: The ANA is also a reflection of all Afghans, including women. Just 10 years ago, women were not allowed to attend school. In fact, women had very little rights at the time. Now we see women attending school and they hold meaningful jobs in our community and position in our government. The ANA has officially recognized women's service since 2009. And since 2009, we have developed an NCO education system for women. At this moment, the Afghanistan National Army training center is training our future female NCOs. In late 2009, 20 women graduated from the first female officer candidates school. And there are currently 20 women in school right now. There are also women enrolled in the military medical school. We have also had significant changes in the NCO course. We now have courses from junior NCO course to the sergeant major academy. The Afghanistan National Army NCO education system is under one umbrella. Looking ahead to the future, my priority, this is my focus area as sergeant major of the army. We are conducting first central promotion board in March. The purpose of the -- the purpose is to place the right person in the right position and provide a road map for career progression. I'm working to improve retirement benefits to guarantee a better future for soldier and their families. 10:49:15 I will continue to focus on NCO professional development to include a soldier and NCO competition. (Inaudible) -- I am very proud to be part of the -- (inaudible). We are planning and we are executing this competition and also the seminar. As I work side by side with the chief of staff of the army, I hope our example leads the way for all officer and NCO relationship in the army. Other -- that's your -- (inaudible) -- sergeant major. SGT. MAJ. HILL: As Sergeant Major Roshan has said, the ANA has made a lot of progress since 2009. However, there's a lot of challenges ahead, especially in the areas of equipment and international trainers. The end state is that by 2014, the ANA is a self-sufficient professional force. This process will take time, but ISAF is fully committed to an enduring relationship and partnership with the Afghan National Army and the Afghan national security force as a whole. And with that, we'll take your questions. COL. LAPAN: Andrew -- (inaudible). Q: Sergeant Major Hill, this is Andrew Tilghman with Army Times. I'm curious as to whether you have actually, from your end, heard anything about the "don't ask, don't tell" training and how -- if so, how you think the carrying out that training in a combat environment might be unique and what kind of challenges it poses. SGT. MAJ. HILL: Yes, I have heard about the training that will be forthcoming to the -- to the battlefield. We will take our directions from the Department of Defense, from the secretary of defense, the chairman, as well as the service chiefs of each service. Our plan is to take their direction, and we're going to execute that training right here on the battlefield. Our goal is to not allow a unit to return to home station and have the unit responsible for that. While we own those soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, we're going to execute that training on the ground. We hope that it will have little impact on their combat and security operations here. COL. LAPAN: Luis. Q: Sergeants Major, it's Luis Martinez with ABC News. 10:52:45 You -- can I ask you about attrition in the Afghan force? You spoke about how attrition is going down 1.6 percent per month, but that's overshadowed by the significantly higher numbers of soldiers and police who are leaving the force. How are you combating that escape of soldiers? SGT. MAJ. HILL: I didn't quite understand your question. It was due to the sound. Could you -- could you repeat it again, please? Q: (Off mic) -- again, the question has to do with attrition. You said that you're cutting down on those numbers by 1.6 percent a month, but yet the numbers of those who are leaving the forces is significantly higher. What are you doing to trying to overcome that -- those forces that are leaving? SGT. MAJ. HILL: Attrition has not been -- has not dropped by 1.6 percent, it has dropped to 1.6 percent a month. And one of the things that we're doing to even combat that -- and that's a -- that's really a good number. One of the things we're doing to combat that -- we have a good retention program, and what we've done, we've brought in trainers to help train the Afghan National Army on standing up a good retention program, as well as a good recruiting program. We've stood up a recruiting command as well. So between recruiting and retention, we're going to overcome even that 1.6 percent. Q: Sir, if I could follow up: For comparison's sake, what was the per-month-percentage attrition rate so we can just compare? And when did that drop-off begin? SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, the attrition rate was obviously higher than 1.6 percent. At some points it was high as 10 (percent) to 12 percent. And one of the things that -- I mean, some of the things that we've done, we've -- one, we've increased the pay. 10:54:05 They have a better pay program. Other things that we've done, we've automated the pay system so our troops don't have to get paid, go on leave, take the -- take their pay to their families and try to come back. And in some cases they didn't come back and we had soldiers AWOL or drop from the rolls. So, you know, through the automation of pay and increase of pay, that -- those are a couple of things that we've done to really drive down that attrition rate. Q: Mike Evans from The London Times here. Can I ask you both what is, do you think, the main motivation for the guys who are coming in to join the Afghan National Army? Is it because they're getting good pay, getting trained and getting professionalized, or is it because they want to defeat the Taliban? SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: When they are joining in Afghanistan National Army in the (three hour and up ?), the recruiting is going very well. And we are bringing the soldier because they are -- the Afghanistan National Army is one of the respected organization. They are coming there. They are joining to the Afghanistan National Army. When we are bringing to justice to the soldier, there are always the six steps we are bringing one soldier. And the first step, and we are giving the guy -- we are bringing the soldier. We are testing the soldier and we are -- we are testing the soldier, and also we are looking to the soldier citizenship and we are also looking that your background check about the soldier. They are things what we are doing. And we have enough soldier and we have enough -- the recruiting is going very well. Q: Doesn't really answer the question. Could, possibly, the other sergeant major give a reply, too? 10:56:33 SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, from my perspective and from the ISAF perspective, they see -- I mean, they see good leadership when they see the ANA forces. They also see a pretty good mission. I mean, really, when you talk about respect -- protecting your own people, what more noble calling could there be? So I think, from my perspective, the example that the ANA forces are setting and the good leadership, and the outstanding mission of protecting your own people, is some of the things that's driving the young men and women from their homes into the formations of the Afghan National Army. Q: Thank you. COL. LAPAN: (Raghubir ?). Q: This is Raghubir Goyal, from India Globe and Asia Today -- again, thank you -- this is Raghubir Goyal, from India Globe and Asia Today. My question is for both of you. One, how much confidence you think the Afghan community now have, or had, in the -- in your mission there; and second, how much news Afghans are getting as far as events going on in the Middle East, all these waves of freedom and change. SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, if I can under -- if I understand your question, it's about some of the other things that's going on in the Middle East. We watch the news just like everyone else, and we stay attuned to some of the things that's going on and try to see, you know, if they're going to impact what we're doing here. But our focus at ISAF, our focus at U.S. Forces-Afghanistan and the ANA focus is on the fight that's right here within the borders of Afghanistan. We're concerned about the things that's happening around us, but we are more focused on the -- on the battle that we're fight right here. 10:58:17 COL. LAPAN: I think the question is more directed at the Afghan people, and what kind of support you see from the Afghan people and whether the Afghan public is aware of the news from the Middle East. SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: The support from the United States, like you can -- you are seeing the Sergeant Major -- command -- Sergeant Major -- (inaudible) -- Sergeant Major Marvin Hill. We are (seating ?) -- we are working together side-by-side and we are working to the shoulder-by-shoulder. The Afghanistan people, the public, they are -- they will never forget what the great united -- the coalition -- the United States and the coalition force did for the Afghanistan -- for the Afghanistan people. Right now, the Afghanistan -- if you look to Afghanistan, we have great progress in Afghanistan in the good education. We have the economy, we have good economy. They are doing the education of the Afghanistan National Army, of the Afghanistan National Police. That's the best thing is going. If you look, the Afghanistan people are -- the bottom line is Afghanistan people are getting education. Every day, they are getting to the -- they will be going to the (www.google.Afghanistan ?). How was the Afghanistan like 10 years ago? Ten years ago, if you look to the Afghanistan, we did not have education, we did not have Afghanistan National Army like today we have that. 10:59:52 Thus, we will never (for ?) all of these great things, you know, for what is that the great America -- what the United States and the coalition force did for Afghanistan. COL. LAPAN: Cheryl. Q: Hi. Cheryl Pellerin, American Forces Press Service. Excuse me. For Sergeant Major Roshan, could you say more about women in the army, how many women are training and how many women are actually in the army now? SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: (Audio break) -- women in Afghanistan National Army, in 2009 we opened new period in the history of Afghanistan. We start -- we recognize women to join in Afghanistan National Army, like the first we have the OCS, Officer Candidate School. The first time there was the women, there were 29, 29 women, they joined to Afghanistan in the national army. (They were very proud of ?) -- and they were based on the criteria. The criteria was, they should be the high school graduated, and they should be also the guarantee letter from the father and the mother. They can then (join ?) to the army. And right now (when ?) they graduating three, four months ago -- in country right now we have 20 women in Afghanistan National Army. We have also women that are working (admin ?) kind of job. We have in medical school, (right, or like ?) nurses -- (we have to that one ?) -- we have women in Afghanistan National Army. Q: May I have a follow -- and can you say some of the issues that you're dealing with, having women in the army, and how many more women you expect over the next several years to join? SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: Can you -- would you like to repeat the question again? Okay. Q: What are some of the issues that women are having to overcome to join the army? Are there issues, problems with women -- (off mic) -- SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: Mm-hmm, yeah. Q: -- problems with women -- (off mic)? SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: There's -- (we know ?) right now that there should -- there -- as major of the army, I didn't see any issue, because the women, they have the rights. This is -- they have the same rights that male -- that the female -- the women, they have the same right too -- the first time (we do a talk ?) on the television in couple weeks, you know -- that's one week there was, you know, women -- they were (willing/volunteering ?) to join to the Afghanistan National Army, and we didn't see any issues. And before that, when -- first in Afghanistan National Army, you know, I have other logistical support commander. I have women -- I have -- there was one on my -- I have -- (inaudible) -- sergeant major in Afghanistan National Army. In the future there should be that the -- you know, that that should be like the command position. We can put that in the future; you know, that to ask your -- to answer your question, there's -- we do not have any issue, any concern that -- in the army. COL. LAPAN: Andrew. Q: This is Andrew with Army Times again. For Sergeant Major Safi, you said at the beginning that the army is made up of Pashtuns, Hazaris, Tajiks and Uzbeks. I'd like to ask you: About how many Pashtuns are in the Afghan army, and would you like to see more of them? Is there an effort to reach out to the Pashtun community? 11:03:55 SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: We have two step in Afghanistan National Army. The first step's when the -- they are coming soldier in the recruiting command and we are -- (inaudible) -- by ethnicity balance, like the ethnicity balance -- like the Pashtun, like if the Pashtun 46 percent -- now 46 persons, that should not be oversize. But when we -- (inaudible) -- to Afghanistan National Army, we -- as Afghanistan, we have just one tribe and one ethnicity, which is -- (inaudible). When you ask me, (am I corps ?) sergeant major, what -- where are you come from? Afghanistan. And he would be telling this is my -- (inaudible) -- my tribe is the chief of staff of the army, and this should be one day -- (inaudible) -- if you want to say Pashtun, Tajik and Hazara. Right now we are -- (inaudible) -- for. (That's ?) the beginning. That should be not oversized. But everybody is -- if he's the Pashtun, he's from Afghanistan, and he's the Tajik, we are like brother, we are like this -- you know, we have the different (soldiers ?), and we have the one flag. The purpose is the same. The -- (inaudible) -- is different. We will never -- that will -- Pashtun, Tajik, Hazara, no matter. (Inaudible.) You know, one of my -- in my unit, I have the soldier -- I don't know -- my -- the majority of my soldiers didn't know which ethnicity I am, because they speak Pashtu, (Uzbek ?), Tajik, Hazara. Q: Could I ask him just how many? I mean, he's seeking the ethnic balance, but how many Pashtuns are in the army currently? SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: The Afghanistan National Army, the Pashtun -- we have -- the army right now, we have the percentages, we have the percentages like -- (inaudible) -- the Pashtun, 46 percent of the Pashtun -- we have the people. There should be -- (inaudible) -- we are grouping by the ethnicity. That was -- at that point, we are coming to the recruiting station -- when they are coming to the unit -- the unit, we are not talking to that one. 11:05:47 You know what, let me tell you this. When we are attacking -- when we attack -- the bad guys are attacking, they are not going, hey, Pashtun, go on that side, I will not kill you; hey Tajik -- (inaudible) -- we have the same enemy. They are not telling to us, Pashtun, hey, I will be killing Hazara, I will be not -- you know, we are all together. In Afghanistan, in like all of the (force ?), they are working together -- coalition force, civilian community, and Afghanistan National Army, police, Afghanistan National Army and -- (inaudible) -- coalition forces, we are working like -- (inaudible). There is no -- if anybody wants to beat Afghanistan, we will be beaten like that. There's -- no matter Pashtun, Hazara. That was like expired medicine we were eating. We will never eat that medicine again. Q: Okay. (Off mic) -- expired medicine. COL. LAPAN: (Name inaudible.) Q: If I could follow up on the -- if I could follow up on the question of the Pashtuns, I think -- I believe there was an effort to recruit Pashtuns from the south, from Helmand and Kandahar, because most of the Pashtuns are from the north that are currently in the ANA. How is that recruiting going in Helmand and Kandahar? 11:07:10 SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: Recruiting is going very well. We have this operation, you know, in the south, right -- you know, there's one other example, like the Marja, we didn't have -- in the past, we had 45 recruiting stations, and we didn't have enough recruiting stations there. When we -- (inaudible) -- the delegation that they (weren't the people ?) and they attack the people, right -- you know, we have also large number from the south, from Helmand, from the Kandahar, people -- they are (enjoined ?) to the people because they are looking to Afghanistan National Army every day. They are watching and they are -- they are seeing Afghanistan National Army as a respected organization. And they are proud (to serve ?). They are watching that if anything happen in Afghanistan. The people of the civilian community -- any natural disaster happen, they are (guarding ?), Afghanistan National Army. And they are coming if there is flood, earthquake, there are droughts, anything happen -- they are watching that one. That is -- they are seeing Afghanistan National Army because they are thinking (they're a real depender ?) in Afghanistan. And when they're seeing Afghanistan ANA soldier, they take a very (relaxed breath ?) and they are thinking, they're a real depender, they are here, you know. Afghanistan National Army like -- we are from the Afghanistan people -- we are at the service of Afghanistan people. COL. LAPAN: Mike. Q: Mike Evans from The Times again. Some time ago -- I think it was maybe a couple years ago -- you started introducing M-16s and taking away the Afghans' beloved AK-47s. Can you tell me how far that has gone now and whether the Afghan soldiers are happy with M-16s and not too unhappy with not having their AK-47s? SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: AK-47 -- I was -- you know, at that time when I was the battalion -- the corps sergeant major, there was one -- the biggest -- (inaudible) -- you know. When we had the AK-47, we were worried about the AK-47. Right now when we got the new NATO weapon -- M-16, M-4 -- we -- just the enemies worry about that weapon. We are not worried. We are good to go, but the enemy is thinking about the NATO weapon. That weapon -- when we got that, that was morale booster. As you know, there are the three things, three "R," right? Soldier -- be a right soldier, right training -- (inaudible) -- United States, they train my soldier -- we have good training and good NATO weapon like M-16, 29 -- (inaudible) -- this weapon (we have ?) to that one, that was a very good morale booster for my soldiers. Q: Could I possibly ask your American colleague the same question, whether he thinks that's worked pretty well? SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, the fielding of the NATO weapons is going extremely well. One of our subordinate commands and headquarters, NATO Training Mission-Afghanistan, has the responsibility for the fielding of the NATO weapons and all of the equipment for the Afghan national security force and then particularly the Afghan National Army. There are units that have the AK-47s that can't wait to get the M-16s or the M-4s. So we think that that's something that they want. They have confidence in it. And that's what it's all about, is having confidence in the -- in the equipment that you're operating and particularly the weapon that's in your hand. They feel that this is a superior weapon. They see U.S. and coalition soldiers armed with NATO weapons, and they want to be armed with them as well. And we're working extremely hard to outfit the entire army with it. COL. LAPAN: Okay, we have time for two more. (Off mic.) Cheryl, over to you. Q: I would like to ask Sergeant Major Roshan if -- why you -- why you changed the name from small sergeant -- of your noncommissioned officers from small sergeant to battle buddies. SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: Small sergeant to the -- (inaudible) -- we changed the name of the noncommissioned officer to the small sergeant to the -- (inaudible). The small sergeant, that was maybe poor word. That was one of the former -- you know, that word was very poor word. They were calling "small sergeant." And we (put ?) that word because -- (inaudible) -- with the noncommissioned officer, they brought -- they earned great respect because they -- when -- right -- you know, there was -- they are -- they were enforcing the standard and they were a primary -- you know, they were the primary training for the soldier. And also they were the first (lane ?) of the leadership. There would have been a different reason when we (had heard ?) the name. We are not the (source ?) of it. I'm sergeant major of the army. I can stop airplane in the sky. I'm not small sergeant. I'm sergeant major of the army. And that -- we are the noncommissioned officer. We are the backbone of the army. We are the bridge between the officer and the soldier. That's every day; that was my hard work on my noncommissioned officer. And they -- (and end to that one) -- this went all the way to the military service (law ?) -- and (this is ?) battle buddy, they are noncommissioned -- they are not small sergeant in the army. COL. LAPAN: Okay, Raghubir. Q: Thank you. Raghubir Goyal again. My question is now that, how much -- do you still have a security problem as far as protecting the people of Afghanistan as far as al-Qaida or Talibans are concerned in the country? SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, security is always a problem, whether it be here in Afghanistan or anywhere around the world. Protecting people is our number-one concern. Right now we have over 100,000 -- 110,000 more forces here in Afghanistan than we had at this time last year. We have 70,000 more Afghan national security forces, and we have 40,000 more U.S. and coalition forces here. And that's providing a better umbrella of security. 11:13:50 You know, just months ago the people in Marja could not -- I mean, they couldn't come out of their homes. And today bazaars are open. There's open shops. There's open markets. There are schools open. There's a girls' school open that has 180 students in it, and that wasn't the case just months ago. So, you know, security is always a problem anywhere, right, but here we are combatting that with the boots that we have on the ground and with a competent Afghan national security force. SGT. MAJ. ROSHAN: Our border security, when I'm sitting in the -- you know, that in the meeting with the chief of staff of the army, (there are ?) our corps commander -- I didn't see one of the corps commanders -- they are giving operational briefing, like I didn't see one route from Herat to Kabul, from Kabul to Mez, and from Kabul to the -- Jalalabad. Twenty-four plus seven -- (all of the route is there) -- they are open. They are driving the people. There is -- every day there is -- we will be having -- we will -- we will have the Afghanistan National Army and we will have professional police and the border police; they will be having control of the border. And it should be the -- it should be getting better. COL. LAPAN: All right, gentlemen. Thank you very much. I'll send it back to you if you have any closing remarks you'd like to make. 11:15:36 SGT. MAJ. HILL: Well, I'd first like to say thanks for the opportunity for noncommissioned officers to tell the Afghan story. We're here. We're in full support of the Afghan national security forces. Our role is to provide Afghan solutions to Afghan problems, and that's what we're standing here to do. I want to give a shout-out to all of our U.S. and coalition forces. I know the focus of this briefing was on the Afghan national security force and particularly the Afghan National Army, right? But I couldn't be more proud of the sacrifices and the courage and the commitment that our service members are making on the battlefield every day. They are true warriors. They are true diplomats. They are very versatile. And they -- I couldn't be more proud of them. And thanks again for having me and my battle buddy, and just thanks for what you all do for us as well. SGT. MAJ. RASHAN: I want to say thank you for all of the soldiers that are -- that are training Afghanistan National Army and that are -- and their families back in the great United States. They are coming -- they are sending their children, their (boys ?), men, women they are sending to Afghanistan for the security of the people of Afghanistan. They are sending all -- (inaudible) -- (1,000, 2,000 ?) men. 11:16:42 We (are the ?) Afghanistan. We will be -- never forget what they -- what they -- what they did for Afghanistan. (Inaudible) -- Afghanistan, like -- we have great progress in -- here in Afghanistan. Just if you want to say, like, google somebody Afghanistan, www-dot- google what was Afghanistan 10 years ago (in that town, we know ?). If you look into See Mars Record ----------------------------------------------------------------
BARACK OBAMA HOLDS A TOWN HALL MEETING IN DES MOINES, IA 1700
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA HOLDS A TOWN HALL MEETING IN DES MOINES, IOWA USA MISSING ARN DUNCAN and top of Russhaun Johnson video begins at 17:04 President Barack Obama town hall meeting at North High School in Des Moines, Iowa DC Slug: 1535 WH IA PATH1 RS33 73 & 1705 WH IA PATH1 RS33 73 AR: 16x9 Disc #647,636 NYRS: WASH3 (4523) 17:01:20 Secretary of Education Arne Duncan takes the stage 17:03:00 North High School Student Body President Russhaun Johnson takes the stage 17:05:25 Obama takes the stage 17:05:57 THE PRESIDENT: Everybody give it up for Russhaun! (Applause.) Hello, Iowa! (Applause.) Well, it is good to be back in Iowa. (Applause.) I was missing you guys. (Applause.) Go, Polar Bears! (Applause.) It is great to be back in Des Moines. You know, I landed at the airport and saw the Hampton Inn there that I -- I must have stayed there like a hundred days. (Laughter.) I'm sure I've got some points or something. I could get a couple free nights at the Hampton Inn. (Laughter.) 17:07:02 Everybody, have a seat. Have a seat. Relax. And I know it's September, so I know you guys are all about to be flooded with ads and calls from a bunch of folks who want this job. (Laughter.) I just can't imagine what kind of person would put themselves through something like this. (Laughter.) Although I noticed -- I didn't know Russhaun was on the ballot. During the introduction, he was all like, "the next President of the United States." We could not be prouder of Russhaun, not just for the introduction, but for the inspiring story that he's told. I think it's an example of what our young people can do when they put their minds to it. I want to thank your principal, Mike Vukovich. Where's Mike? (Applause.) There he is. Your Superintendent is here -- Tom Ahart is here. Where's Tom? (Applause.) Your Mayor, Frank Cownie is here, who is a great friend. Where's Frank? He was here. He had to go to a City Council meeting. He's missing out on the fun. Iowa Attorney General and great friend of mine, Tom Miller. (Applause.) Treasurer Mike Fitzgerald, great supporter. (Applause.) And, of course, Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan, for letting me crash his bus tour. (Applause.) 17:08:31 So I'm not going to give a long speech, because we want to spend most of the time taking questions from all of you. But I just want to explain that we came to North High School because you guys have done some great things over the past few years -- making sure more students have laptops and iPads, more AP classes, improving test scores. And so you've become a great example for the whole country of what's possible. (Applause.) So we thought we'd come to pay you a visit, talk with some of the students here in Des Moines and your parents. Because I know that there's nothing that high schoolers love more than being in public with their moms and dads. (Laughter.) I know that -- that's what Malia and Sasha tell me all the time. (Laughter.) 17:09:23 It was seven years ago this week that a financial crisis on Wall Street ended up ushering in some really hard years on Main Street. But thanks to the incredible resilience and grit and hard work of the American people, we've bounced back. We've created 13.1 million new private sector jobs over the past five and a half years. We've helped more than 16 million people have the security of health insurance, many of them for the first time. Our high school graduation rate is the highest that it has ever been. (Applause.) And I should point out, by the way, if you want to see the best graduation rate in America, it's right here in Iowa. (Applause.) 17:10:17 So we've been investing in things that help to grow the middle class and help provide opportunity for every young person. But no 21st century economy -- nobody in a 21st century economy is going to be able to do what they want to do with their lives unless they've got a great education. That's just the truth. By 2020, two in three job openings are going to require some form of post-high school education -- whether it's a four-year university, or a community college, or a tech school. And it's an investment that pays off. Now, partly it pays off -- and Russhaun mentioned this -- because it empowers you. It gives you a sense of who you are, and your hopes and your dreams. It helps to sharpen how you see the world, and empowers you in all sorts of ways. But it also has some pretty practical ramifications. Compared to a high school diploma, a degree from a two-year school could earn you an extra $10,000 a year -- a four-year degree could earn you a million dollars more over the course of your lifetime. That's how important education is in today's economy. And here's the thing -- just as higher education has never been more important, let's face it, it's never been more expensive. And that's why Arne and I have been working to try to make college and post-high school education more affordable. We've increased scholarships. We reformed our student loan system that funneled billions of taxpayer dollars into big banks -- we said, let's cut out the middleman, let's put that money directly to students. We created a new tax credit of up to $2,500 to help working families pay for tuition and books and fees. We're helping people cap their federal student loan payments at 10 percent of their income. So if you want to be a teacher, or you want to be a social worker, or some other profession that may not make a huge amount of money, you can still do that, knowing that you're not going to go -- you're still going to be able to afford to support yourself and your family while doing it. And we're fighting for two years of free community college for any student that's willing to work for it. (Applause.) 17:12:48 The bottom line is, is that no young person in America should be priced out of college. They should not be priced out of an education. And I know that finding the right school for you, the best school for you is a tough process. Malia is going through it right now. You guys are juggling deadlines and applications and personal statements. And some of you, in the back of your mind, are asking yourselves what you plan for a career and what you want to do with your life. I think we should make that process easier. So a couple of things that we've done that we're announcing over the course of this week during Arne's bus tour -- we've introduced something called College Scorecard. Right now, a lot of families don't have all the information they need to choose the right school. And a lot of the college ranking systems that you see, they reward schools just for spending more money, or for rejecting more students. And I think that's the wrong focus. I think that our colleges should be focusing on affordability and on serving students and providing them good value. So we've pulled together all sorts of data on college costs and value; we created this College Scorecard. And you can scroll through it to see which schools are more likely to graduate their students, are more likely to result in good jobs for the students, more likely to make sure that those students can pay off their student loans -- and you can then use that information to make choices that are right for your future and right for your budget. And you guys can go to CollegeScorecard.ED.gov. CollegeScorecard.ED.gov -- and we've already got half a million visits since we launched this thing on Saturday. So it's a valuable tool for students and parents as you're trying to make a decision about which school to go to. We're also simplifying the financial aid process to give you more time as you make a decision. Right now, about two million students don't claim the financial aid that they're eligible for. And part of it is it's just complicated and time-consuming. And so those young people are leaving money on the table. And there may be some young people here who are not aware of all the financial help you can get. So what we've done is we've shortened the federal student aid form -- it's called FAFSA -- down to about 20 minutes. It used to be about two, three times as long. And because only Congress has the power to eliminate certain requirements, we're asking them to simplify it even further. The good news is it's got some good bipartisan support. In fact, we've got a Congressman here from Virginia who traveled with us -- Congressman Bobby Scott -- where's Bobby? There he is way in the back there. (Applause.) And he's working -- he's a Democrat -- he's working with Republicans to see if we can further shorten and make this form simpler. 17:15:45 Today, I'm also announcing that beginning next year, families will be able to fill out FAFSA even earlier -- starting on October 1st, right around the time that college applications ramp up. That means you won't have to wait for months for your W-2s to arrive before you can get started, so you can get a jump on the college application process. You'll know sooner how much aid you qualify for; you'll have more time to evaluate your options. And we're also working with colleges and universities and scholarship programs to align their application and their financial aid processes with this new FAFSA start date. So all these steps taken together should help hundreds of thousands more students pay for college. And I know that's important to you. 17:16:27 I'm going to end my opening remarks with a story from somebody who couldn't be here today, but graduated from here last year, and his name is Neico Greene. (Applause.) You might remember Neico from the Polar Bear basketball team. (Applause.) And the reason that I want to tell his story is for the past few years, Neico was homeless. As a junior and senior, he was grateful to mostly stay with his coach or his counselor. But before that, he spent nights in shelters and in church basements, or in hotels with his mom -- sometimes sleeping next to drug addicts or worse. And this is something Neico wrote. He said, "I've seen some terrible things. but I'm thankful for what I've been through because it's taught me to be strong." And being strong meant studying. It meant keeping his eye on college. Applying for -- and winning -- some scholarships. Last year, he filled out his FAFSA, found out he qualified for thousands of dollars of federal and state aid. Today, Neico is a freshman at Graceland University. He's studying accounting. He's still playing ball, hoping to make enough money one day to build a career and give back to the mom that he loves. (Applause.) 17:17:54 So that's why we're here. That's what this is about -- the students like Neico and Russhaun. Students like many of you who want to take that next step and have big dreams. We want you to know that we're there to help you achieve those dreams. We want to make sure that we're giving every student who's willing to put in the effort all the tools that they need in order to succeed. That's not just good for the students, by the way. That's also good for America. Because this country was built on the notion that it doesn't matter where you come from, what you look like, what your last name is -- if you're willing to work hard, you can make it. And education is the key to making that future possible. That's how we grow this country. That's how we make it successful. And that's the incredible project, the great experiment in democracy that all of you are part of. 17:18:56 So, with that, Arne and I are looking forward to taking your questions. Thank you very much, everybody. (Applause.) All right. So here's how this is going to work. You raise your hand and I'll call on you. We're going to go girl, boy, girl, boy -- to make it fair. (Laughter.) There should be people in the audience with microphones, so wait until they get there. And introduce yourself. Try to keep your question short enough that we can get as many questions in as possible. And contrary to what Arne said, he's going to get all the tough questions and I just want the easy ones. (Laughter.) All right. So let's see who wants to go first? All right, well, this young lady, she shot her hand up quick. Right here. We need a microphone up here. All right. 17:20:03 Q: Hi, my name is Angelica. And my question is for your -- it's what do you believe the role of a teacher should be? 17:20:12 THE PRESIDENT: What do I believe the role of teacher should be? That's a great question. When I think about my own life -- some of you may know, my dad left when I was very young, so I really didn't know him. So I was raised by a single mom. And we didn't have a lot when we were coming up, although my mom had this great love of learning. But she was a teenager when she had me; she was 18. And she was still going to school and working at the same time as she was raising me and then my sister. She was my first great teacher. And what she taught me was compassion, caring about other people, but she also taught me to be curious. And when I think back to all the great teachers that I've had, it's not so much the facts that they've taught me -- because I can get those from books -- but it has been teachers who are able to spark in me a sense of curiosity, like, well, how does that work? Why is that the way it is? Somebody who has helped me want to learn more. That, to me, is the role of a great teacher. Somebody who can teach you to be so interested in the subject that you then start over time teaching yourself. And I'll bet there are a lot of great teachers here. Part of the challenge I think for being a teacher is, is that sometimes students don't always appreciate good teachers, let's face it. Because I think sometimes we think education is something that you just receive from somebody else. It's passive. They just kind of pour knowledge in here. But in fact, good teaching is a conversation that you're having with somebody where they're giving you not just answers but also asking you questions, and helping your brain get a workout and try to learn how to figure things out yourself. And also, I think great teachers are somebody who's got -- who have -- are people who have confidence in you and have high expectations for you, and they see something in you where they get a sense of, you know what, you're important, and you can do amazing things. And when you feel that from a teacher, that a teacher really thinks you've got something in you that's worth saying or writing or -- those are the teachers that you remember. Those are the teachers that inspire you. What do you think, Arne? 17:23:06 SECRETARY DUNCAN: I'll be quick. I think it's a really, really good answer. The only thing I would add is I think great teachers see things in students that they don't even see in themselves, and pull things out of you. And someone like Russhaun, who talked publicly, mom was locked up -- lots of folks could look at you and say, well, that's where he's going to go. Other teachers see him as a student body president, as a future teacher, as a future leader in the community. So those amazing teachers see things in us as kids. Those are the teachers I remember from my childhood, who saw things in me that I didn't even recognize myself and helped to bring that to life. (Applause.) THE PRESIDENT: Great question. All right. I think it's a guy's turn now. Let's see. That gentleman right back there, around the corner there. 17:23:53 Q Hi, my name is Dennis. I have a senior here at North High School. (Laughter.) What's so funny? THE PRESIDENT: Are you the dad that's embarrassing -- Q Maybe. THE PRESIDENT: Your daughter is just like, oh, dad, god. Q Well, it's a give-and-take; they embarrass me, I'm going to embarrass them. (Laughter.) THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I'm right there with you. (Laughter.) Q Okay. In your opinion, of all the next presidential candidates that are in line, which ones have the best ideas for education reform to make it more affordable and accessible? 17:24:26 THE PRESIDENT: Well, you know, I -- (laughter and applause) -- I'm going to beg off this question a little bit. I promise you I'm generally going to give you straight answers. On this one, I'm going to wiggle around a little bit. (Laughter.) Right now, I'm going to try to stay out of the campaign season until it -- partly because I can't keep track of all the candidates. (Laughter.) So I'll wait until it's winnowed down a little bit before I have an opinion. But here's what I can say -- that a society's values are reflected in where we put our time, our effort, our money. It is not sufficient for us to say we care about education if we aren't actually putting resources into education. (Applause.) Now, both Arne and I have gotten some guff sometimes from even within our own party because we've said that money alone is not enough; that it's important for us, if a school isn't teaching consistently kids so that they can achieve, then we've got to change how we do things, in collaboration with teachers and principals and parents and students. We've got to figure out how do we make it work better. So a lot of the initiatives we've had in terms of increased accountability and encouraging more creativity and empowering teachers more, those don't cost money. But what we also know is that if science labs don't have the right equipment, then it's harder to teach science. If kids don't have access to broadband and laptops in their classrooms, then they're at a disadvantage to those kids who do. If you've got a school that doesn't have enough counselors, and so, come time to apply for college, there aren't enough counselors to go around and kids aren't getting the best advice that they need, then they may end up selling themselves short in terms of their ability to go to college. So resources do matter. And part of the reason I'm making this point -- so that when you're evaluating candidates, you pay attention to this -- is we're going to be having a major debate in Congress coming up, because the budget is supposed to be done by the end of this month. And so far, Congress has not come up with a budget. And there are some in the other party who are comfortable with keeping in place something called sequester, which is going to be -- is going to result in significant cuts over the next several years in the amount of federal support for education. And that's going to force then either layoffs, or kids not getting the kinds of support that they need. It will have an effect on the education of students. So I just want everybody to be clear, without endorsing any particular candidate's ideas, that if somebody is running for President and they say they want to be the "education president," it means two things. One is that you care about every student doing well, not just some -- because whoever is President is the President for all people, not just some people. That's point number one. (Applause.) And point number two is, is that you've got to be willing to provide the resources, particularly for communities that may not have as much of a property tax base so they can't always raise money on their own in order to help their students achieve. All right? Anything you want to add on that? (Applause.) SECRETARY DUNCAN: Just very quickly, without getting into this candidate or that -- you've got about two dozen to choose from, and they all want your vote. Four questions I'd like you to ask every candidate, Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal -- it doesn't matter. 17:29:28 One: What are you willing to do to have more children have access to high-quality early childhood education? That's the best investment we can make. (Applause.) Two: What are you going to do to continue to increase our nation's high school graduation rate? And we're very proud, it's at an all-time high, but it's nowhere near where it needs to be. Three: What are you going to do to make sure high school graduates are truly college and career ready, and not having to take remedial classes in college,; that they've been taught to high standards? And fourth, we need to lead the world in college graduation rates again. We were first a generation ago; today, we're 12th. Other countries have passed us by. So if every candidate you ask, what are your concrete goals for those four things, and then what resources -- to the President's point -- are you willing to put behind that, our country would be a much stronger place. THE PRESIDENT: And not to be a tag team here, here's one last thing. Because -- I'm sorry, what was your name? Angelica asked a terrific question about what does it mean to be a great teacher. If you hear a candidate say that the big problem with education is teachers, you should not vote for that person. (Applause.) Because it is a hard job. And it is the most important job we've got. And folks who go into teaching don't go into it for the money. (Laughter.) They go into it because they are passionate about kids. 17:31:10 Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't some bad teachers, and it doesn't mean that we shouldn't hold teachers to high standards as well, and continue to work in terms of professional development and recruitment and retention of great teachers. And there have been times where Arne and I have had some disagreements with the teachers' unions on certain issues because we want to encourage experimentation. But the bottom line, though, is, is that you can measure how good a school is by whether or not it is respecting and engaging teachers in the classroom so that they are professionals and they feel good about what they're doing, and they're given freedom and they're not just being forced to teach to a test. And it is very important for us, then, to make sure that -- if what we hear is just a bunch of teacher-bashing, I can't tell you who to vote for, but -- at least not right now. Later I will. (Laughter.) But I can tell you who to vote against, and that is somebody who decides that somehow teachers don't deserve the kind of respect and decent pay that they deserve. (Applause.) All right. Let's see. It's a young lady's turn. Yes, you right there in the brown sweater right there. Go ahead. That's fine. 17:32:39 Q I'm Elena Hicks, and I'm a senior at Roosevelt and an intern at the Hillary Clinton campaign. THE PRESIDENT: Oh, okay. I guess I know who you're voting for. (Laughter.) Q Yes. And this was a standards question, but I'll make it more general. Do you think it's possible or realistic for there to be free tuition for college in the United States? 17:32:56 THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that it is absolutely realistic for us to, first of all, have the first two years of community college free, because it's in my budget and I know how to pay for it. (Applause.) And it would -- and essentially if you close up some corporate tax loopholes that aren't growing the economy and are just kind of a boondoggle, you take that money, you can then help every state do what Tennessee is already doing -- because Tennessee is already making community colleges free for the first two years. And what that does, then, is, first of all, it helps young people who may not right now want to go get a four-year college education but know that they still need some sort of technical training, or they want to get an associate's degree. Right away, that whole group, they now know they can get their education for free as long as they're working hard. But for those who are thinking about a four-year college education, they can also get their first two-years at the community college, then transfer those credits to a four-year college, and they've just cut their overall college costs in half. So it would be good for everybody, whether you're going two years or four years. Now, if we can get that done, then I think we can start building from there. In the meantime, I do want to make sure, though, that everybody understands what we were talking about in terms of FAFSA. You have to fill out this form. And we are making it easier for you to do. You have no excuse. Parents who are here, even if you didn't go to college, you need to nag your kids to make sure that this FAFSA form gets filled out so that people -- so that you know the student aid that you may be entitled to. My grandma, she didn't go to college, even though she was probably the smartest person I knew, but she did know that you had to go to college and that you had to fill out this form. So I want everybody here to make sure that you stay focused on that, because there's more help already than a lot of people are aware of. And this College Scorecard that we talked about -- CollegeScorecard.ED.gov -- what that does is it allows you to take a look at the schools to find out, do they graduate their students; how much debt do they have; are they generally getting a job after they graduate. So we're not, like, just ranking, here's the most prestigious school; we're giving you some news you can use here in evaluating whether the schools that you're applying to actually deliver on their commitment. Because a lot of times, the students who get big student loans debt after they graduate, it's because they didn't think through where they should go, what should they be studying, what resources are available. And we want you to on the front end to have as much information as possible in order to make a good choice. Arne, anything to add on that? SECRETARY DUNCAN: Very, very quickly, quick test. That FAFSA form the President talked about -- how much in grants and loans do we give out each year? Any guesses at the federal level? AUDIENCE MEMBER: A lot. SECRETARY DUNCAN: How much is a lot? THE PRESIDENT: See, I didn't test you. (Laughter.) You notice this. That's the head of the Education Department. SECRETARY DUNCAN: How much? 30,000? Any other thoughts? Yes, sir. What's that? Total -- How much? $30 billion? Any other guesses? All right, so very quickly, we give out $150 billion in grants and loans each year. THE PRESIDENT: That's real money. (Laughter.) 17:37:11 SECRETARY DUNCAN: And the President said we've got a long way to go, we want to do more, trying to make community colleges free. But we don't care whether your family has money or don't have money, or whether your family has gone to college or not, or where you live. If you work hard -- $150 billion. It's the only form -- 20 minutes, half an hour -- the only form you're ever going to fill out in your life that's going to give you access to $150 billion. So I just want to emphasize this point. You have to fill that out. THE PRESIDENT: Got to fill it out. (Laughter.) All right? A'ight. (Laughter.) This gentleman back here. I don't want to neglect the folks in the back here. Q How are you doing, Mr. President? THE PRESIDENT: How are you, sir? 17:37:40 Q Good, good. My name is Rudolph Dawson and I'm a graduate of Fort Valley State University in Georgia. My concern is that the Historically Black schools like Fort Valley State, a lot of the pressure is being put on them in terms of they're not getting the budget they need to continue to educate people like myself. They are not getting the programs that they need to attract students that want the higher pay. And it's to me -- what can you do, or what can your administration do, or the next administration do to right the wrong that's been done in the past? And it's continued to be done to these universities. Fort Valley State is also a land-grant college and they haven't been getting all the money they needed for agriculture like the University of Georgia. I'd like to see some changes there. 17:38:31 THE PRESIDENT: Okay. Well, first of all, for those of you -- because some of you -- we've got a lot of young people here so just to give you a little bit of history, the Historically Black Colleges and Universities arose at a time when obviously a lot of schools were segregated. And so African American students couldn't attend a lot of the traditional state colleges and universities that had been set up. And many of them went on to become incredible educational institutions that produced some of our greatest thinkers. So Morehouse College, Howard, Spelman -- all across the country, particularly in the South, a lot of these Historically Black Colleges and Universities were really the nurturer of an African American middle class -- many of whom then went on to become the civil rights pioneers that helped to lead to Dr. King and to the Civil Rights Movement and to all the history that I think you're aware of. A lot of those schools are still doing well. Some of them have gotten smaller and are struggling, partly because of -- good news -- University of Georgia isn't segregated anymore, for example, so it's good that African American students or Latino students have more diverse options. But they still serve an important role. And so working with people like Congressman Bobby Scott and others, we've continued to provide some support to those schools. But one thing that Arne and I have been doing is saying to these Historically Black Colleges and Universities, you've also got to step up your game in terms of graduation rates, because there are some of those schools, just like non-historically black colleges and universities, who take in a lot of students but don't always graduate those students. And those students end up being stuck with debt and it's not a good deal for them. So we're working together. We've got a whole task force and commission that's just devoted to working with these schools to make sure that they've got the resources they need to continue to perform a really important function, but that they're also stepping up their game so that kids who attend these universities and colleges, they're graduating on time and are able to then pursue the kind of careers that they need. I think it's a young lady's turn now. Oh, you know what, I need to go up top. That young lady in the striped shirt right there. I can barely see, but that's what happens when you get older, young people. (Laughter.) First time I came to Iowa, I had no gray hair. (Laughter.) I didn't. Look at me now. (Laughter.) 17:41:45 Q Hi, my name is Abba. I'm currently a junior at Lincoln High School here on the South Side of Des Moines. My question to you is -- I know you don't want to get involved with the presidential race at the moment, but a candidate has said that they want to cut government spending to politically biased colleges, and I was wondering if, say, that would hurt the education system for those who depend on that, or would it better the education as a whole? 17:42:17 THE PRESIDENT: First of all, I didn't hear this candidate say that. I have no idea what that means. (Laughter.) I suspect he doesn't either. (Laughter and applause.) 17:42:47 Look, the purpose of college is not just, as I said before, to transmit skills. It's also to widen your horizons; to make you a better citizen; to help you to evaluate information; to help you make your way through the world; to help you be more creative. The way to do that is to create a space where a lot of ideas are presented and collide, and people are having arguments, and people are testing each other's theories, and over time, people learn from each other, because they're getting out of their own narrow point of view and having a broader point of view. Arne, I'm sure, has the same experience that I did, which is when I went to college, suddenly there were some folks who didn't think at all like me. And if I had an opinion about something, they'd look at me and say, well, that's stupid. And then they'd describe how they saw the world. And they might have had a different sense of politics, or they might have a different view about poverty, or they might have a different perspective on race, and sometimes their views would be infuriating to me. But it was because there was this space where you could interact with people who didn't agree with you and had different backgrounds that I then started testing my own assumptions. And sometimes I changed my mind. Sometimes I realized, you know what, maybe I've been too narrow-minded. Maybe I didn't take this into account. Maybe I should see this person's perspective. 17:44:50 So that's what college, in part, is all about. The idea that you'd have somebody in government making a decision about what you should think ahead of time or what you should be taught, and if it's not the right thought or idea or perspective or philosophy, that that person would be -- that they wouldn't get funding runs contrary to everything we believe about education. (Applause.) I mean, I guess that might work in the Soviet Union, but it doesn't work here. That's not who we are. That's not what we're about. Now, one thing I do want to point out is it's not just sometimes folks who are mad that colleges are too liberal that have a problem. Sometimes there are folks on college campuses who are liberal and maybe even agree with me on a bunch of issues who sometimes aren't listening to the other side. And that's a problem, too. I was just talking to a friend of mine about this. I've heard I've of some college campuses where they don't want to have a guest speaker who is too conservative. Or they don't want to read a book if it has language that is offensive to African Americans, or somehow sends a demeaning signal towards women. And I've got to tell you, I don't agree with that either. I don't agree that you, when you become students at colleges, have to be coddled and protected from different points of views. (Applause.) 17:47:02 I think that you should be able to -- anybody should -- anybody who comes to speak to you and you disagree with, you should have an argument with them. But you shouldn't silence them by saying, you can't come because I'm too sensitive to hear what you have to say. That's not the way we learn, either. What do you think, Arne? SECRETARY DUNCAN: Amen. THE PRESIDENT: He said, amen. (Laughter.) Let's see. I think it's a guy's turn. This gentleman here in the tie, you had your hand up a couple times. Yes, I didn't want you to feel neglected. You almost gave up and I wanted to make sure to call on you. Hold on a second. Wait for the mic. 17:47:53 Q My name is James Quinn. This is my wife, Tatiana, and our daughter, Victoria. We've been saving for her college education for 10 years, and over that time, the federal deductibility of 529 contributions has gone away, even though we can still get that deduction from Iowa income taxes. It would be nice to see a little reward for saving, rather than just making borrowing money get easier. (Applause.) 17:48:23 THE PRESIDENT: I'm going to let Arne hit this one because he's an expert on our various savings programs. 17:48:30 SECRETARY DUNCAN: Yes. I'll just say, as a parent with two kids not quite this age, my wife and I are putting money actively into 529s to try to save. And getting the federal government to support that more or encourage that would be fantastic. And again, this is something we have to work with Congress to do the right thing. But for families who are saving -- we have some families now starting kindergarten, first grade, saving every year, just a little bit, to help their kids to go to college. We need to incentivize that and reward that. It's a great point. THE PRESIDENT: There was a time when the deductibility with student loans was more significant than it is today. Whenever you make something tax-deductible, that means that there's less money going into the Treasury. That, then, means that either somebody has got to pay for it with other taxes, or the deficit grows, or we spend less on something else. And this is part of why this argument, this debate that's going on right now in Congress about lifting the sequester is so important. It's a Washington term -- I hate the term -- but essentially what Congress did was it said, all right, we're just going to lop off spending at this level for the next decade. The problem is, of course, the population is going up, the economy is growing, and so even though the deficit right now has been cut by two-thirds since I came into office -- which is -- (applause) -- you wouldn't know that listening to some of the candidates around here, but it has. If, in fact, sequester stays in place, not only our ability to spend for education or to help families with student loans, but also things like early childhood education, Head Start programs, Pell grants -- all those things can end up being adversely affected. And this is one thing that I would just ask everybody to consider. When you hear budget debates, I know your eyes kind of glaze over, but the federal budget, that's really where we express our values. And a lot of times people say, well, we should just cut government spending because there's all this waste. But, in fact, the vast majority of government spending is for Social Security, it's for Medicare, it's for Medicaid, it's for helping vulnerable populations, and it's for defense. And not a lot is left over for helping middle-class families, for example, send their kids to college, or to save. And if you have this ceiling, this artificial cap, without take into account a growing population and more young people going to college, then you end up with a situation in which fewer people are getting help. And that's why it's important for us to lift this artificial cap. And it's also why it's important for us to close some of these tax loopholes that are going to either the very wealthy or to corporations that really don't need them, because they're doing just fine and they're not having a problem financing their college education -- their kids' college educations. (Applause.) All right. It's a young lady's turn. All right. I will go -- I'm going to go to this young lady because originally I called on her first and then -- but we got mixed up. Go ahead. What's your name? 17:52:39 Q My name is Rosalie and I go to Roosevelt High School. Hopefully, my question is not too difficult. And it's what is your best advice for Malia as she goes off to college? 17:52:50 THE PRESIDENT: My best advice to Malia. Now, this is assuming that Malia would listen to my advice. (Laughter.) She's very much like her mother at this point. (Laughter.) She's got her own mind. One piece of advice that I've given her is not to stress too much about having to get into one particular college. There are a lot of good colleges and universities out there, and it's important I think for everybody here to understand you can find a college or university that gives you a great education, and just because it's not some name-brand, famous, fancy school doesn't mean that you're not going to get a great education there. So one is, lower the stress levels in terms of just having to get into one particular school. I think that's important. The second piece of advice I have is keep your grades up until you get in, and after that, make sure you pass. (Laughter.) Because it's important that you kind of run through the tape in your senior year and not start feeling a little slack. I don't worry about that with her; she's a hard worker. And then the third thing is really the advice that I already mentioned, which is be open to new experiences when you go to college. Don't go to college just to duplicate the same experience you had in high school. Don't make your decision based on, well, where are all my friends going so that I can do the exact same things with the exact same friends that I did in high school. The whole point is for you to push yourself out of your comfort level, meet people you haven't met before, take classes that you hadn't thought of before. Stretch yourself. Because this is the time to do it, when you're young. Seek out new experiences. Because I think when you do that, you may discover you may think that you wanted to do one thing; it may turn out you wanted to do -- that you wanted to do something completely different, and you have an amazing talent for something completely different, but you just haven't been exposed to it yet. You've got to know what it is that's out there, and that requires you to do some things differently than you've been doing in high school. So, Arne, anything you wanted to add on that? SECRETARY DUNCAN: Just quickly, particularly for the seniors, please don't apply to one school -- sort of what the President said -- apply to four, five, six, seven schools. It's amazing to me how many young people just apply to one school. And it might be the best fit for you, but keep your options open. So look at what's out there -- close to home, less close to home, whatever it might be -- apply to a bunch of places. And a final thing, just to emphasize, the goal is not to go to college; the goal is to graduate. And so, figure out where you're going to go and graduate. It might take you three years, it might take you four, it might take you five. But the big thing we need all of you -- not to just go, not to attend, but to walk across those stages four or five years from now with that diploma in hand. (Applause.) THE PRESIDENT: Gentleman right here. Here, you can use my mic. 17:56:32 Q All right. (Laughter.) Thanks, Mr. President. I'm an elementary school principal here in Des Moines public schools, and one of the things that we really value is the diversity that we have within our community. And I'm really curious to hear from you and Secretary Duncan the value that you see that diversity brings to a young person's education. 17:56:50 THE PRESIDENT: That's a great question. How long have you been a principal? Q Five years. THE PRESIDENT: Five years? Q Five years. THE PRESIDENT: That's outstanding. We're getting old, though, man, because I thought he was a student. (Laughter.) He's the principal. He's not even just a teacher, he's a principal. (Laughter.) Well, thank you for the great work you're doing. To some degree, I've already answered this question. The value of diversity is getting to know and understand people who are different from you, because that's the world you will be living in and working in. And it's actually really interesting -- they've been showing through a variety of studies that people who can understand and connect with a wide range of people, that that ends up being as important a skill, if not more important a skill, than just about anything else in terms of your career success, whatever the field. It also, by the way, is part of what makes our democracy work. I was having a discussion about this earlier today. Our democracy is premised on an assumption that even if somebody is not just like me, that they're a good person and a generous person, and that we have things in common, and that we can work things out, and if we have a disagreement then we can have an argument based on facts and evidence. And I might sometimes lose the argument, I don't persuade as many people, and then -- that's how voting works, and majorities are formed, and they change. That's how our democracy is supposed to work. And I think that starts early. Because when you've got diversity in schools, then you're less likely as an adult to start thinking, well, that person, they're not like me, or those persons, they don't have the same values, or they don't care as much about their kids, or -- and then democracy starts breaking down, because then everything is a fight to the death because there's no sense that we can actually bridge our differences and disagree without being disagreeable, and find common ground. So it's not only good for your career, but it's also good for our country. The same goes -- the same holds true, by the way, as part of diversity -- studies show that organizations that have women in decision-making positions function better than those who don't. (Applause.) Seriously. That if you look at corporate boards, actually you can correlate their performance with the number of women that they've got on those boards. So it also is valuable for us to make sure that not only is there diversity, but that in leadership positions, different voices are heard. So, Arne, anything you want to add to that? Good. So keep it up. (Applause.) Young lady right there. Yes, you. Right there. Oh, I'm sorry, I'll call on you first and then I'll get back to you. I'm sorry. The mic is already there. I promise you'll be the next. 18:01:04 Q Hi. My name is Heidi. I'm a junior here at North High School. And actually, I have, like, two questions. One is one for my friend -- he's very shy, he can't speak up. We are part of a group called Upward Bound, and we work through Simpson College. There's been stories of our budget being cut, and we want to know what the government can -- help us and work with us for that. And my other question is, in your professional opinion, how much is visual arts an importance to our school, and how are you going to save it? (Applause.) 18:01:41 THE PRESIDENT: Okay. Why don't I -- I'll take the first -- I'll take the question on visual arts, you talk about Upward Bound. Arne, go ahead. 18:01:54 SECRETARY DUNCAN: Just very quickly, it really goes back to what the President talked about. It's not just Upward Bound that's at risk; it's Pell grants that are at risk, early childhood education. Folks in Congress want to zero that out of the budget. I think it's so important that all of us as students and as educators to not pit this program against the other, but to hold folks in Washington accountable for investing in education. As the President said, we want to make sure we're getting results. It's not blindly investing. But there are lots of things in our budget -- Upward Bound being a piece of it -- that honestly are in pretty significant danger right now. And the President is fighting very hard. We have some folks backing us, but the others that just sort of see these things as somehow extras. And I think it's so important that as young people, as voters, as family, your voices be heard. He cannot by himself prevent these cuts. That's not how our democracy works. And so we'll hold us accountable. We'll continue to push very, very hard. That's why we're out traveling the country all the time. But we need voters' voices being heard, saying, we need Upward Bound programs, we need TRIO, we need early childhood, we need after-school programs, we need the arts. And you can talk about the arts, as well. THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, I mean, the arts are what make life worthwhile, right? (Applause.) You need food and shelter and all that good stuff, but the things that make you laugh, cry, connect, love -- so much of that is communicated through the arts. And I don't want our young people to think that the arts are just something that you sit there passively and watch on a TV screen. I want everybody, even if you're not a great artist, to have the experience of making art, and have the experience of making music. Because that's part of what makes for a well-rounded education. We also know that young people learn better if they're not just looking at a textbook and multiple text quizzes all day long, and that it breaks up the monotony and it gives expression to different sides of themselves -- that that's good for the overall educational experience. So I think visual arts, music, it's all important. And we should not be depriving young people of those experiences. And they're not extras. They're central to who we are. Part of what makes us human is our ability to make art, to represent what's inside of us in ways that surprise and delight people. And I don't want us to start thinking that that's somehow something we can just push aside. Now, I want you to be able to read and be able to do your algebra, too. But I don't know where we got this idea we've got to choose between those two things. We've got to be able to do them all. And it used to be standard practice. There was no debate, even in the smallest town in a poor community or a rural community. There was always the art teacher and the math teacher -- or the art teacher and the music teacher, and nobody assumed somehow that that was an extra. That was part of it, just like having a sports program was part of it. (Applause.) And that's part of what a well-rounded education is all about. But it does cost some money. And that's something that I want to emphasize -- that you can't do all this stuff on the cheap all the time. How many more questions -- how much more time we got? Only one? I'm going to take two. (Laughter.) All right. I'm going to get to you because I promised I was going to -- I'll tell you, it's a guy's turn. This guy right there. (Applause.) All right. 18:06:37 Q All right. I've got two short questions. THE PRESIDENT: What's your name? Q My name is Marcus Carter. And I'm a senior. And out of all the schools in Iowa, why did you come here? And after this, can I get a picture with you? (Laughter.) 18:07:03 THE PRESIDENT: Now, Marcus, I'm going to answer your first question. Second question, though, if I start taking a picture with you -- look at this crowd right here. (Laughter.) We'd be taking a lot of selfies. So I'm imposing the no-selfie rule, although I'll definitely try to shake as many hands as possible. We came here because some really good work is being done here. And I think that your teachers, your principal, the superintendent deserve credit for the improvements that have been made. (Applause.) I want Arne to address this, because Arne travels to schools all across the country. And sometimes we get so focused on what's not working that we forget to lift up what is working. And when a school is doing a good job, I'm sure the principal and superintendent, the teachers here feel like they want to do even more and do even better. But when we've made progress, we've got to acknowledge that, because that makes us feel encouraged and hopeful that we can continue to make even more strides. Arne? SECRETARY DUNCAN: I'll just say a couple quick things. It's not a coincidence that we're here, but this is a school that historically struggled, had some hard times. And new leadership, new expectations -- the President talked about technology here, talked a much better sense of culture, different ways to discipline. But the thing I always go back to -- I don't know if my numbers are exact -- I think a couple years ago you had two AP classes, and now you have 15. (Applause.) And to go from two to 15 is a really big deal. But what I always say is the students here aren't seven times as smart as four years ago; it's just higher expectations, a different sense of belief among adults about what's possible. And so we try and highlight places that haven't always been successful but are trying to do the right thing and move in the right direction. As the President said, no one is satisfied. You guys are still hungry, you're still trying to get better. But that's real progress. That's adults saying, kids, students, young people deserve the opportunity to take college classes in high school, deserve to go to a safe school, deserve the technology. I think there are lots of lessons other schools could learn from the progress you're making here at North High School. (Applause.) THE PRESIDENT: All right. I promised I was going to call on this young lady last. Go ahead. Q Okay. THE PRESIDENT: What's your name? 18:09:47 Q My name is Tanya from North High School. And my question is, if you legalize college -- or free two-year college, is everyone, including illegal students with a good GPA able to get this benefit? 18:10:06 THE PRESIDENT: Well, right now, the way -- no, this is an important question, and I know this is a debate that's been taking place among some of the presidential candidates. Right now, the way that the federal student loan programs work is that undocumented students are not eligible for these loan programs. That's how the law is currently. And it is my view that -- well, two things I want to say. First, if you fall in that category, you should still fill out the FAFSA, because it may be that states or universities or colleges may have private scholarships or other mechanisms. So it doesn't automatically mean that you may not qualify for some benefits. So it's still important for you to kind of -- because that's a standard form that's used by everybody. But this raises the broader question that I've been talking about now for a couple of years, and that is that for young people who came here, their parents may have brought them here and they now are Americans, kids by every other criteria except for a piece of paper -- they may be your classmates, they may be your friends, they may be your neighbors -- the notion that somehow we would not welcome their desire to be full-fledged parts of this community and this country, and to contribute and to serve makes absolutely no sense. (Applause.) And this whole anti-immigrant sentiment that's out there in our politics right now is contrary to who we are. (Applause.) Because unless you are a Native American, your family came from someplace else. (Applause.) And although we are a nation of laws and we want people to follow the law, and we have been working -- and I've been pushing Congress to make sure that we have strong borders and we are keeping everybody moving through legal processes -- don't pretend that somehow 100 years ago the immigration process was all smooth and strict and -- that's not how it worked. There are a whole bunch of folks who came here from all over Europe and all throughout Asia and all throughout Central America and all -- and certainly who came from Africa, who it wasn't some orderly process where all the rules applied and everything was strict, and I came the right way. That's not how it worked. So the notion that now, suddenly, that one generation or two generations, or even four or five generations removed, that suddenly we are treating new immigrants as if they're the problem, when your grandparents were treated like the problem, or your great-grandparents were treated like the problem, or were considered somehow unworthy or uneducated or unwashed -- no. That's not who we are. It's not who we are. We can have a legitimate debate about how to set up an immigration system that is fair and orderly and lawful. And I think the people who came here illegally should have the consequences of paying a fine and getting registered, and all kinds of steps that they should have to take in order to get right with the law. But when I hear folks talking as if somehow these kids are different from my kids, or less worthy in the eyes of God, that somehow they are less worthy of our respect and consideration and care -- I think that's un-American. I do not believe that. I think it is wrong. (Applause.) And I think we should do better. Because that's how America was made -- by us caring about all our kids. 18:15:25 Thank you, everybody. I love you guys. (Applause.) 18:15:49 Obama glad hands with audience members 18:21:28 Obama waves and exits
HILLARY CLINTON AT ZAYED UNIVERSITY IN ABU DHABI, UAE
Secretary Hillary Clinton at Taping of MBC's Kalam Nawaem, Zayed University, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates ---- XDCAM Log supplied by Nancy_Hiegel_Jan 17 2011 12:12PM---- MODERATOR: (In Arabic.) (Applause.) Your Honor, Mrs. Clinton, it is such an honor to have you on our show tonight. SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. MODERATOR: You are a fascinating lady. SECRETARY CLINTON: (Laughter.) Thank you. MODERATOR: I mean, you have overcome so many obstacles on your way up to the status you are in now, the Secretary of State of the United States. Of course, you are an example to every woman who wants to achieve her ambition, and this is the way to enable her and strive for everything she wants to strive for, to achieve it. Welcome to our show, Mrs. Clinton. SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I want to thank each of you for the opportunity to be on this show, which I know has such a broad audience and for now, nearly nine years, has presented subjects that are of importance to women and men, but through a woman's perspective and with women's voices. And so it's a great honor for me to be here with you. MODERATOR: Thank you very much. We are so interested in hearing what you have to tell us tonight. We're going to have a lot of questions for you. I hope you're ready. SECRETARY CLINTON: I'm ready. MODERATOR: But first we're going to hear something. SECRETARY CLINTON: In 1995, in one voice, the world declared "Human rights are women's rights, and women's rights are human rights." And for many, those words have translated into concrete action. But for others, they remain a distant aspiration. Change on a global scale cannot and does not happen overnight. MODERATOR: Absolutely. SECRETARY CLINTON: Right. MODERATOR: And honestly, it's because you also said that there is no true democracy without women's voices being heard. Now, men are the decision-makers; every power decision-making in this world is made by men. How is a woman's voice going to be heard? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, first, I think that I'm in a country that has made a real commitment to education and to the inclusion of women in many if not all aspects of society. And I think that is a remarkable statement, that there has been so much progress. And in the region as a whole - not everywhere, but as a whole - there has been a change toward including women in government, business, the professions, academia, every walk of life. So when I talk about women's voices, I know women's voices are important in the home. I know that women are very often decision-makers in the family. I know that in society, women influence greatly what goes on in the lives of the society. But now, we're seeing women's voices like the three of yours emerge in a more public way. Change is inevitable. It's a question of how that change goes forward, whether it will be in a way that enhances the respect for culture, history, and identity, or whether it will try to turn the clock back and make it very difficult for societies to move forward. So I think that what you're doing on this show, which is one of the reasons I'm privileged to be here, is demonstrating that women's voices should be heard and should be respected. And I'm hoping that in parts of the world today where that is not the case at all, that there can be heart given, encouragement given to girls and women, and a real opportunity for them to feel that the future will be better. MODERATOR: Okay. Hillary, let me break the ice. You look much prettier than you look on TV. (Laughter.) SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, thank you, I think. (Laughter.) Thank you, and congratulations on your marriage. I'm just a tiny bit embarrassed that you came back from your honeymoon to do this show, and please give your husband my apologies - (laughter) - my best wishes. MODERATOR: (Inaudible.) Thank you. A lawyer, a wife, a mother, a senator, and now a Secretary of State - which of these are the real Hillary Clinton? SECRETARY CLINTON: They all are. They all are, as I think it is in any woman's life. Some of what I do has been acted out on the public stage now for a number of years. But I've always said that every woman I know is a multitasker, does a lot of different things, and assumes different roles, and not just in the home but also in the influence outside the home. So for me, being a wife and a mother, being an advocate, a very active citizen, as well as having the privilege to be the first lady of my country, a senator from New York, and now Secretary of State has been a great honor. And I look at all of them and I feel very blessed and fortunate that I've had those experiences, but that, of course, only challenges me to be more so that other women can make the choices that are right for them. Not everyone wants to be a Secretary of State or a senator, but every woman may want to do more with the talent that she has and the abilities that she's willing to invest in. And I love to see those opportunities available for young women. MODERATOR: Mrs. Clinton, you're talking about multitasking. SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes. MODERATOR: You travel a lot. SECRETARY CLINTON: I do. MODERATOR: Do you like traveling? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I like getting to where I'm going, yes. MODERATOR: We all do. SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes. MODERATOR: But in the course of your travels, you have met hundreds of women of different backgrounds, different cultures, and so on. I do want to ask you about the differences. I want you to tell me what are the common challenges that women face in today's world? SECRETARY CLINTON: That's an excellent question, and there are common challenges despite the differences that we all have, which I think makes life more interesting because we're not all the same. We have different experiences, we have different parents, we have different historical, cultural, religious backgrounds. But the vast majority of women whom I know in not only my own country, but around the world, they want to feel as though they are fulfilling their God-given potential, that they are able to contribute to family and society. And every one of us is in a constant balancing act, because in - I'll speak just for myself, and I've written about this in a couple of books that I've written - there is a constant challenge for women; are you doing enough of what you should be doing in every part of your life. So if you're working and you're a mother, how do you balance the responsibility which is the most important responsibility, in my opinion, namely to the next generation, to your children? How do you balance that with being a good worker outside the home? How do you balance the constant pressures from society to look good, to perform at the highest level of expectation from your society? So every woman I know is in a constant balancing act in her own life and in her family and her society. And I think that for many women, it becomes - it can become a bit distressing because you never measure up to everything that is expected of you. And at some point, you just have to relax and say, "I'm going to do the best I can, and that's all that can be expected of me." And so I have these conversations in practically every part of the world. MODERATOR: That's very interesting, Madam Secretary, and yet the Western media often depicts the Arab woman as oppressed, as having basically no human rights, as being uneducated. Why and how can we solve this problem? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think it comes from a lack of awareness or understanding that needs to be slowly but surely changed. And there - it's one of the reasons why I very much appreciate the chance to do a program like this, because I have a lot of the American press with me and they look at the three of you, and maybe that breaks down some stereotypes. Maybe that begins to create what I know to be a much more comprehensive and complex view of women's roles in this part of the world or in many parts of the world. I think that it's not only unfair to stereotype any group of people, but it does a great disservice because then you don't get the full appreciation of what is happening in this part of the world back in my own country. So I'm determined, through my travels, to do a lot of meetings like this. I do town halls, I do interviews like this, because I want to be someone who helps break down those stereotypes. I really do believe that despite the differences that exist among us, there is such a common desire for our children and for the next generation to live in peace and prosperity and to be free of violence and want of all kinds. So I think part of my job is not just to meet with leaders and officials - with whom I will be meeting later, with the president and others - but to be a vehicle by which my country and others can get a somewhat clearer sense of what's really happening. I can't take everybody; I can't take all 300 million Americans on my plane. But through the media, I can communicate a different message. MODERATOR: Thank you. Mrs. Hillary, thanks for those answers, and they really were interested to have this interview. But as you know, we are Zayed University, and we have lots of the students here. And I think they have lots of questions. So let us have one of the questions that you would like to ask for Mrs. Hillary. SECRETARY CLINTON: I'm looking forward to that. Now, don't be shy. MODERATOR: She's very sweet, (inaudible). SECRETARY CLINTON: There's a hand that's up right there. MODERATOR: Where is - SECRETARY CLINTON: Right there in the second row, I see this young woman raising her hand. MODERATOR: We'll start with -- MODERATOR: Ladies first. QUESTION: Good morning, Madam Secretary of State. I am (inaudible) with (inaudible). My question is: What do you think of a woman's right in term of to choose for what they wear, (inaudible)? SECRETARY CLINTON: I am in favor of women having the right to choose what they wear. I'm against women being forced to choose any particular form of dress. I think it should be respected what the women's choices for dress are. But I believe strongly that each woman should have the opportunity to choose. And so that is my hope. And I look around here and I see all different sorts of choices being expressed, and I think that's healthy, and it's also a reflection of one's identity. And so I hope that there will be that opportunity for choice. MODERATOR: Great. We need another - more question, please? Okay. Yeah, we should give the men some. QUESTION: Madam Secretary, a question: The Middle East is going through a tremendous change currently, and clearly and fortunately, they are being provided to women in the region. This provides - and also introduces challenges where women are now breaking out of shelter, the society that shelters women. And shelter is also an opportunity for women to depend on husbands, family, and I have aunts and mother and sisters, and they are also coming out of a shelter. These opportunities are being provided. I don't see that most women are taking these opportunities. What advice can you give the women? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think that's a very honest question because you're right, that many women have been, as you say, sheltered, protected within the family. I would hate to see the opportunities for women, particularly young women, to gain an education, to enter the workforce mean that they would not be respected within the family. So I think it is like any change that is going on in any society; there will be millions of decisions made over the next years about how best to do this. And I do think it's important to send a very clear message to the larger society that women who are going to school, who are being educated, who are participating publicly in their voice being heard in society, still retain the respect and the protection of their families. But at the same time, that's not used as an excuse or a reason to prevent women from pursuing those outside interests. So I'm very aware of the potential conflict and confusion that such changes create. And it's interesting to me; I've had many conversations about this with many men from this region, and many men are very proud of their daughters. And they're proud of their daughters' academic achievements and they're proud of what their daughters are becoming. And so as men see their own daughters achieve these levels of accomplishment, I think that helps to put into perspective how best to open up doors within society for other men's daughters. And that's what I would hope to see. MODERATOR: Absolutely. Madam Secretary, our evening is just beginning, but we're going to return after the break. SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. (Break.) SECRETARY CLINTON: The status of the world's women is not only a matter of morality and justice. It is also a political, economic, and social imperative. Put simply, the world cannot make lasting progress if women and girls in the 21st century are denied their rights and left behind. MODERATOR: Mrs. Hillary, you were talking about women achievers in the Arab - in general. But in the Arab world, have you met some of them? What did they change in your mind? SECRETARY CLINTON: Oh, I have. I've met many of them. And I think that whether it's the commitment to education that I've seen in the leadership of women from Jordan and Qatar, to the fight against violence against women that I've seen in Egypt, to the commitment to the new, very modern university in Saudi Arabia, to this university and so much that is happening here in the UAE and so many different places, I've met women who are leading the effort, who are very clearly speaking out in favor of what needs to be done within their societies. And I've been impressed by how strong the women are, how gracious the women are, and how effective the women are. And it is, for me, a great - it's a great lesson about how different women have different styles, just like men have different styles. And the impact of the women leaders whom I have met throughout this region, I think, has been both in private - and encouraging changes with their husbands, their fathers, their uncles, their brothers - and in public. So it's a very impressive effort. I also am impressed by the young women whom I've met. I had the opportunity to do town halls in Jeddah, in Manama and other places, and the young women have been extremely impressive. So just as I see young women in my own country standing up and speaking out in ways that, when I was their age, I did not see, I see the same here in this region. MODERATOR: Madam Secretary, are you ready for the $6 million question? SECRETARY CLINTON: (Laughter.) Do I win $6 million if I answer it? Of course. MODERATOR: Do you think the American public is ready for a woman president, seeing that they have enjoyed the leadership of three secretaries of state who are women? SECRETARY CLINTON: Right. Well -- MODERATOR: Are they ready or not? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I tried - (laughter) - back in 2008 and had an extraordinary experience. I think that my country is. It's just going to take a woman with very thick skin who will run for office and be successful. We have a political system in the United States which is extremely competitive and very difficult for men and women. But I think - certainly, I hope so in the near future to see a woman president, because as you say, we've had three women secretaries of state, starting with my friend Madeleine Albright and then, of course, Condoleezza Rice, and now I'm serving. So we certainly have women representing my country at the highest levels. We had women - just the recently retiring speaker of the house, which is the third most important position in my government, is a woman. So we've had it all the way up to vice president and president. We will break through that glass ceiling. I'm not sure when, but we'll get there, I hope, soon. MODERATOR: (Off-mike.) QUESTION: (Inaudible) in the political domain either in America or in some countries where women are not so effective? SECRETARY CLINTON: Oh, occasionally, I have. Well, lots of times, I laugh it off. Sometimes I confront it. But it is less common than it used to be. And yet there still are attitudes, even in my country, about a woman's place, a woman's role that - it's a minority, but it's sometimes, unfortunately, a vocal minority has. And yet it doesn't represent the trends, the historic trends and the changes or the vast majority of people. So I really think that we're getting to a point where we'll see less and less of that going forward. But I wouldn't sit here and tell you it's not still an issue, and it certainly is around the world. My biggest concerns are not with these incredibly bright young women here or with the three of you who have been so successful. It's in countries where women and girls are so discriminated against, so brutalized, so mistreated, denied their basic rights. Those are the places that I worry most about. And I think all of us, as women who have our voices, need to speak out. I went to the Democratic Republic of Congo a year ago summer and just the way that girls and women are treated there is just barbaric. And we have to stand up against that. And when I go to countries that don't let girls be educated or are still marrying off girls of nine or ten, depriving them of an education, depriving them of an opportunity - that is what I'm most concerned about. MODERATOR: If there is people like you, they are talking about us, talking, "One day, ladies will get the rights," we shall assume. SECRETARY CLINTON: I hope so. MODERATOR: Dear audience, if you have another question also for Mrs. Hillary, please make it as short as you can because of the time. QUESTION: (Off-mike.) SECRETARY CLINTON: We can't hear you. MODERATOR: Oh. Please use the mike. QUESTION: It's an honor for me and (inaudible) having you to be with us. And my question is: Hillary's direction toward the currently position of political women in the Arab positions? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I really should ask all of you what you think that should be. Now, I know that as a Secretary of State, I see a lot of diplomats. I know that several countries in the region - Bahrain, Oman - have women ambassadors to the United States, that was quite - and parliament members and ministers here and elsewhere. And I know that more and more women are expressing an interest in serving their countries in these ways. So I think that the opening has happened. It's a question of making sure that women are well prepared, able to perform, because, to go back to your question, it's not so much discrimination as a very high set of expectations. There's an old story in my country that a man who is doing a mediocre job is not particularly noticeable, but a woman who is doing a mediocre job is, because she's a woman and she is expected to perform at a much higher level. And the fact that she is doing whatever in the political arena somehow represents all women, and - which is not fair, but is still a commonly held opinion. So I think that the changes that I've seen in this region are just the beginning, and I would expect to see even more in the years to come. MODERATOR: A question - another question please? SECRETARY CLINTON: This gentleman has the microphone right there. QUESTION: Madam Secretary, on behalf of Zayed University Student Council, I'd like to welcome you here. SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. QUESTION: What advice do you have for young ladies such as the ones who are watching the show right now, or the young students who are going into politics? As a leader yourself, what advice do you have for them? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think the most important thing is what you're doing right now - to get the best possible education you can get. The world is so complex that our leaders need to be very well informed about what is going on. For example, I am going later to see the results of the work that is being done here in the UAE, from Masdar Institute on renewable energy. This is an incredibly important area. So you don't have to be someone who is thinking about going into politics to make a contribution. If you're an engineer who knows about environmental technology, if you're an architect who can build into the exciting future what will be energy-saving homes, if you're an expert in water and the work that is being done here in the UAE on water storage and desalinization - so yes, there are needs for people with expertise, and then there are needs for people who are well educated who know who to listen to, who know how to make decisions about some of the important issues of the future. So I would strongly urge you to continue what you're doing here to get the best possible education to be prepared for whatever the decisions that you would face as a leader or as a professional in some other walk of life. MODERATOR: I'm sure there are many more questions. Don't go away. We'll come back after the break. (Break.) PRESIDENT OBAMA: It is also undeniable that the Palestinian people, Muslims and Christians, have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years, they've endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations, large and small, that come with occupation. MODERATOR: Madam Secretary, a straight question needs a straight answer. Why could the U.S. of A not deliver? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, first of all, what you just heard President Obama say is the policy of our country and what I believe very strongly in pursuing. And as everyone knows, the United States is committed to a two-state solution. We are committed to a state for the Palestinian people and to security for the Israeli people. And we are pursuing that every single day. But if this were a conflict that could be resolved by effort, it would have been resolved. Each side has to make decisions that are very difficult for them. My husband got very, very close back in 2000. And if he had been successful at that point, we would have had 10 years already of a Palestinian state. It is hard for both the Palestinians and the Israelis to have enough trust and confidence in the other to take the risks for peace. So part of what I am trying to do is to build up outside support for these tough decisions. The Arab Peace Initiative that His Majesty King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia put forth was an extraordinary document. And the more that the Arab world and the Middle East can say that the Arab Peace Initiative needs to be implemented and it will be stood behind, the more confidence that gives to the parties that this will be a broad and comprehensive peace. So we are working all the time, literally every day, to try to build that level of confidence for each side to go ahead and make a decision. Now, two things have happened that I think are significant. First, the progress by the Palestinian Authority in building their state has been extremely impressive. The World Bank just last year issued a report which says that if the Palestinians stay on the track they're on, they will be ready for statehood within two years. President Abbas and Prime Minister Fayyad need the support of the world in order to continue that state-building effort, because this is really hard work. But they are making progress against very difficult odds. Secondly, the Israelis have a sense that when they left Lebanon, what they got was Hezbollah with 40,000 rockets aimed at them. And when they left Gaza, what they got was Hamas with 20,000 rockets aimed at them. So I ask people, and I know it's very difficult at times to put yourself ever in the shoes of the other - I ask the Israelis to put themselves in the shoes of the Palestinians, I ask the Palestinians and Arabs to put themselves in the shoes of the Israelis. So the Israelis have to believe that when they leave the West Bank, which they must in order for the Palestinians to have their state, that they're not going to be surrounded on all sides. So as we think through how difficult this conflict is to resolve, there is, I would say, an essential role for outsiders - certainly, our country tries very hard to bring the parties together - but also the Arab world to make it clear that the Arab Peace Initiative will be implemented if the parties can meet the agreement that's necessary on territory and on security and on refugees and on Jerusalem and all of the other issues that are dividing them. So I am absolutely committed, as is President Obama, to doing everything we can. But the end of the day, the parties have to want to do this. I have said and written before that when my husband left office, some months later, then-President Arafat called Bill and said, "Okay, I'm ready to take the deal now." And Bill said, "But I'm not president now." So let's seize this moment while we have President Obama, while we have progress on the state-building in the - by the Palestinians, while we do have an Israeli Government that will be able to deliver a peace if they can agree to the terms - let's make sure we don't let this moment pass so that in 10 years, somebody else gets a phone call and says, "Okay, now I'm ready." No, let's get ready now and let's deliver a two-state solution which will be an enormous step forward not just for Israelis and Palestinians, but for the entire region. MODERATOR: But now, Madam Secretary, there is some warning of war - I mean, the whole area, which is going to be pulling in Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranians, Israel, and all kinds of battles from all over the region. And this time, they're not talking about skirmishes; they're talking about a large-scale war and with many more casualties. How seriously should we take this warning? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think that we should do everything we can to make sure that those warnings are not accurate. For example, I know you're Lebanese. I am deeply worried about the effort to destabilize Lebanon. And I met recently with Prime Minister Hariri and I've also been working with the Saudis and the French and the Egyptians and others to try to make sure we stabilize Lebanon and prevent any outside interests or anyone within Lebanon who is getting direction from outside interests from taking steps that will destabilize Lebanon and perhaps provoke conflict. I think it's very important that we look at how disastrous such a war would be for everyone. And it still is a fact that there is no solution to the problems that beset the area through war. War will not resolve the longstanding concerns. Only intense negotiations to arrive at solutions such as exist between Israel and Egypt, Israel and Jordan - that is the only way forward that will build a lasting peace. So I would send a clear message that the responsible leadership in the region must do everything it can to prevent anyone from taking action that would launch such a conflict, because it would be a disaster. It would cause great suffering, it would cause more refugees, it would cause destruction, and we'd be right back where we are right now. And what good does that do anyone? What bothers me most is I have been in refugee camps of Palestinians. I have been in many parts of this region over the last 20 years. I've met with many Palestinians, many Israelis. And when you talk with them and say, "What is it you want," what they want is the same things. They want their children to grow up in peace. They want their children to have a better future. And that is what every - nearly every parent that I know of in the world wants. And we've got to get beyond the politics, we've got to get beyond the history, and create the circumstances that will maintain peace and will lead to an agreed negotiated outcome. So I'm aware of the drumbeats and I think that those unfortunately are being created for very cynical purposes. Now, let's just be very blunt here, because I like to be as clear as I can. I think that there is very little doubt that Iran does not want to see any kind of negotiated peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. For its own purposes, it wants to keep its attention off of what is the big concern for the future, which is a nuclear-armed Iran with weapons that threaten its neighbors and beyond. So if they can shift attention away from their own internal decisions about whether or not to pursue and produce nuclear weapons, they will be very happy about that. And we cannot let that attention get diverted and we cannot let any outside influence cause a conflict in the Middle East, which would be disastrous for everyone. MODERATOR: Madam Secretary, we really (inaudible) Sudan as a country. What is the new or the next reshaping in our region, in this region? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I'm very pleased you mentioned Sudan because this could be a great example of a peaceful outcome of a longstanding conflict. I give credit to the government in Khartoum for having agreed in 2005 to let the people of the South vote on their own future. So that is what is happening; the voting started yesterday, it goes for the rest of this week. So far, it has been peaceful, and it hopefully will remain peaceful. If, as is expected, Southern Sudan votes to have its own country, then I hope we will all, in this broader region and certainly the United States will help - will do two things - it will help the people of South Sudan meet their very many needs. It's a very poor place. It does not have a lot of infrastructure, it doesn't have enough schools, it doesn't have enough clinics or hospitals. So we have to help the people of South Sudan. But I think we also have to work with and invest in the North in Sudan so that they see the benefits of having done a very courageous action, which is move from conflict to compromise, because that is the way the world should work. It's very unlikely that any one person gets a hundred percent of whatever that person wants if you are negotiating peacefully. So let's work to help both the government in Khartoum and the government in Juba deliver results for their people, and I think that could make this a very successful transition. Other than what's happening in Sudan, I don't see any other actions like that where countries are dividing unless they are forced to by outside forces. And I would just mention briefly Iraq. Iraq now has an inclusive government, and I think that should be applauded by the region. It has a government that consists of the different sectors within Iraq. And it is a government that is going to try to put Iraq on a firm foundation and make sure that all the populations - Kurds, Sunni, Shia, minority groups, Christian, Muslim, everyone - has a safe home and can then go back to school, get freed of violence. But al-Qaida is trying to disrupt that. They've been attacking government installations, they've been attacking Christian churches, and Christians have lived peacefully in Iraq for thousands of years. So again, the outside has to try to help Iraq be stable. MODERATOR: We don't know whether al-Qaida or some other people clearly in the background - but I want to go back to the question of Iran. There is a nuclear danger in the Middle East coming from this - and we cannot deny this. And the sanctions, the imposed sanctions on Iran, hasn't really worked because the consensus is that Iran could have enriched uranium in - within a few months. If they want to have a nuclear weapon, they could. So what are the options that the U.S. is examining? SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think that the most recent analysis is that the sanctions have been working, they have made it much more difficult for Iran to pursue its nuclear ambition. Iran's had technological problems that have made it slow down its timetables. So we do see some problems within Iran. But the real question is how do we convince Iran that pursuing nuclear weapons will not make it safer and stronger, but just the opposite? I would ask you - I mean, those of you from countries here in the region - if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, won't you believe that you have to have a nuclear weapon too? I mean, it will be an arms race that will be extremely dangerous. So it's first and foremost in the interest of the region to persuade Iran not to pursue nuclear weapons. Now, I have said, and I will repeat on this program, Iran, as a signer of the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty, has both rights and obligations. One of its obligations is not to pursue nuclear weapons. One of its rights is to have access to peaceful nucl ---------------------------------------------------------------
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INT BROLL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRAYVON MARTIN TRIAL / SWITCHED POOL FEED **NOTE: JUDGE'S COMMENTS IN CAPS **NAMES OF WITNESSES IN RED **VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS IN (PARENTHESES) **GOOD STATEMENTS/VIDEO BOLD 8:58:37 (Zimmerman enters, tan suit blue shirt and brown tie) (court rearranged differently) 9:00:12 PLEASE BE SEATED, GOOD MORNING. ON THE RECORD. ONE JUROR IS A FEW MINUTES LATE, WAIT FOR THEM. COUNCIL APPROACH FOR ONE MOMENT 9:00:59 (sidebar) 9:09:51 RECESS UNTIL THE POTENTIAL JURORS GET HERE 9:10:08 COURT IN RECESS ============================ 9:27:02 ATTORNEYS REQUEST THE FRYE HEARING BE TOMORROW AT 2. (sidebar) 9:31:03 deputy: jurors are present 9:32:36 PLEASE BE SEATED. GOOD MORNING... BEGIN WHATS REALLY THE JURY SELECTION, BEFORE WAS PRE SELECTION PROCESS... INSTRUCTIONS: IN ORDER TO HAVE FAIR TRIAL, RULES JURY MUST FOLLOW. MUST DECIDE CASE ON EVIDENCE IN COURT. DON'T COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CASE. DO NOT DISCLOSE YOUR THOUGHTS OR ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO DECIDE. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES OR COMMUTERS TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS CASE. DO NOT SEND OR ACCEPT MESSAGES ABOUT THIS CASE. MUST NOT DO RESEARCH THAT MAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CASE. APPLIES IN COURT HOUSE, SEQUESTRATION, OR ANY WHERE ELSE. DEPENDING ON YOU TO FOLLOW RULES FOR A FAIR TRIAL. INVESTIGATE OR RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, NO WAY TO ASSURE THEY ARE PROPER OR RELEVANT TO CASE. NO OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE EVIDENCE. BECOME AWARE OF VIOLATIONS OF INSTRUCTIONS, MUST TELL ME BY NOTE FROM COURT DEPUTY. 9:35:40 GOING TO BEGIN JURY SELECTION PROCESS, KNOWN AS VOIR DIRE. PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE IF THE DECISION WOULD BE FAIR BASED ON EVIDENCE WITHOUT INFLUENCE FROM OUTSIDE FACTORS. NOT FOR PURPOSE OF PRYING INTO AFFAIRS... 9:36:27 CHARGES SET FORTH FOR ZIMMERMAN.... EVERY PERSON ACCUSED IS TO KNOW THE EXACT CHARGE. STATE OF FLORIDA VS. ZIMEMRMAN 12CF10838A COUNT 1 MURDER IN SECOND DEGREE. ON FEB. 26, 2012 ZIMMERMAN UNLAWFULLY KILLED MARTIN UNDER THE AGE OF 18, SHOOTING VICTIM. ZIMMERMAN CARRIED DISPLAYED USED ATTEMPT TO USE FIREARM. AS RESULT OF DEATH, INFLICTED UPON ANY PERSON.......... 9:38:13 INTRODUCED TO PARTICIPANTS OF THIS TRIAL. ARE ANY OF YOU RELATED TO ATTORNEYS OR ZIMMERMAN? NO HANDS ARE BEING RAISED 9:38:37 HANDED A LIST OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES IN THE CASE. IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY NAMES PLEASE CIRCLE THEM. MANY MORE NAMES LISTED THAN ACTUALLY CALLED... REVIEW THAT. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY INDIVIDUALS... ASK YOU TO TELL US WHAT PAGE AND WHAT NUMBER THEY ARE OR THEIR INITIALS. DONE READING, PLEASE LOOK UP. 9:46:19 SHOW OF HANDS BY FIRST ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE WITNESS NAMES? 9:46:46 (couldn't hear the juror number) ANYONE ON FRONT PAGE YOU RECOGNIZE? first page. HOW MANY? 2. they're both d's. FIRST NAME? j and d. first and fourth d. ATTORNEYS WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST? no. 9:48:06 SECOND ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE NAMES? B61? HOW MANY? just 1, perhaps the last page the first one. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND ROW? G63? HOW MANY? 2. WHAT PAGE? second page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? j. initial of first name? c. 5 OR 6TH DOWN FROM J's? 1 of them. the 5th. WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? last page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? w. INITIAL OF FIRST NAME? e. FIRST WD OR LAST WD? I only see one. oh it's the first. 9:50:14 ANYBODY ELSE? ON THE THIRD ROW? JUROR i33? WHO BY PAGE? first page last name b, first name c. THE LAST B? yes. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST YOU RECOGNIZE? number 32, last c. CB? correct. last page...last name w, first name n. OK. I do have one more. last name z first name s. OK, COVER ALL OF THOSE? yes. 9:52:21 ANYBODY ELSE? JUROR E6. on last page, last name w first name n and last name z and first name s. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9:53:20 rionda: good morning... introduce myself to you all. reviewing why this is important 9:55:11 spent last week and first two days of this week going through the process, asked all of you questions related to case regarding publicity. individual so it didn't contaminate other juror's knowledge. important at arriving a decision comes from this court room. agree? yes. issue with that, outside of courtroom can't factor into decision? 9:56:18 what you saw or read from media is irrelevant. now in stage 2. question you individually and collectively about this case or background stuff about you 9:56:45 assure us that you will give consideration to all questions asked? yes 9:56:59 if during this process I ask individually or as a group and you feel uncomfortable talking about it in a group, let us know.... 9:57:41 juror b7? correct. do you want us to bring up issues about that and the time of the question? yes sir 9:58:06 were trying to get a jury that speaks the truth and arrive at just verdict 9:58:20 some of you were talked to last week and others were Monday and Tuesday... anyone go home and celebrate going through to next round? nobody? 9:58:42 appreciate you've taken this time already. 9:58:59 juror b12.... as talked about individually, how long resident of Seminole county? at least 40 years. how long have you lived at current address? 19 years. live in state of Florida before that? Michigan. left there when I was 9. married? no. divorced? yes. how long married before divorce? a yr. what does former spouse do for living? he's dead. children? 2. how old? 32 and 19. what do they do for living? one's a full time student and the other one owns his own company. medical field and construction worker. how long have you been at current employer? since October. before that? home health nurse. how long? 5 years. supervise people in that position? no. before that? CNA. how long total? 5 years. members or involved in organizations at all? volunteer work for moose lodge and my church. how long, long time? yeah. 10:02:51 leadership position? no anymore. prior experience? no. outside work and volunteering, anything else? raising my daughter, I'm a mother. any other hobbies? part of red hat society. I like my wine and going to the beach. served on jury before? no. just don't like the media being there.... that takes away his privileges, they put everything everywhere.... 10:05:31 b29... originally from Chicago? yes. grew up there? yes. married? yes. how long? 10 years. kids, yes? lots. how many? 8. under age of 18? one is over 18. how old is that one? going to be 20. live with you and husband? resides with me now. going to school or working? arrived a few weeks ago, looking for work 10:06:32 how long at employment? 3 months. prior to that? CNA. how long? 7 years. member of organization? my house. military service? no. spend time outside work, but I know answer and what you're passionate about? kids. jury service? no. 10:07:34 b76... how long in Seminole? since 1995. how long at current address? 1 week. prior to that? another address. originally from? been here since 1966. marital status? married. how long? 30 years. children? 2. how old? 28 attorney, 26 CNA. does your son practice in Seminole? yes. what practice? not criminal, foreclosures, bankruptcies, divorce, and contract. ever practiced criminal law? no. 10:08:59 picked as jury and they haven't talked about law and you can't call your son and ask him? yes I understand. 10:09:25 how long at current place of employment? unemployed. prior? husband and I had construction company. how long? 15 yes. husband still involved in that business? no. helping out children built their home. manage rental properties. involvement? I rescue a lot of pets. how long? a long time. military service? no. outside house? managing properties and rescuing animals. passion? rescuing animals. prior jury service? no 10:10:43 b7.... living in Seminole? between orange and Seminole 30 years. born and raised in Florida. married? yes. how long? 10 years. what does spouse do? just got out of school to be a teacher. kids? no. current occupation? 11 years. any management duties? I will. tell us about that? going to be elite position among others in similar roles. how many will you supervise? just 2-3. member in organization? I'm sure I am through her. military service? no. outside work? watch sports... love video games. socialize with friends go out to bar. passion? not passionate about a lot of stuff. ever served as juror? I have. how long ago? before I was working at current job, 12-15 years. Seminole or orange? Seminole. criminal or civil? criminal. reach a verdict? yes. fore person? no. enjoy it? I did. it was one day. 10:13:37 b35.... how long in Seminole? since 1985. current address? 12 yes. marital status? married. how long? going on 20+ years. what does spouse do? local TV. is she a reporter? no. comments I made about media you won't hold against me. 10:14:24 any kids? yes. 1 son in college now. what is he studying? engineering. current occupation, how long? I manage tax office in the year, vending machines and rental... for about 7 years... before that? properties around central Florida. member in organization? fraternity and football coach. how long? 13 years. military service? yes Marine Corp Reserves. how long? 6 years. military police? no. how do you spend time out of work? watching sports, coaching, spending time together. 10:16:07 real passion in life? coaching football.... served as juror? no 10:16:19 b37.... Seminole county? 18 years. prior? dad was air force captain. born in California, but went from coast to other. married? yes. 20 years. spouse job? space attorney... rockets and space craft. how long has that been a specialty? always... since he graduated. corporate attorney? yes. practice criminal law? no. would that influence you? no he wouldn't answer me. kids? 24, pet groomer, 27 at ucf. how long at employment? 16 years. management position? now I am, converted because girl before retired. ever settle disputes? no, there's only 3 of us.. were a family. organizations? involved in rescue groups, got out because I couldn't take more animals. do you know the other juror? I do not. 10:19:08 does anybody know any other jurors here? 10:19:15 military service? no. outside, I know. jury service? called 4 times... excluded from last one because of where I work. 10:19:41 b51.... how are you? good. Seminole? 9 years. originally? orange county. central Florida? since 1987. before? Atlanta. married? no. kids? no. grand kids? no. employment? retired. retired from what work? real estate.. several careers? I have. prior to that? director of call center. how long? 10 years. managerial duties? direct reports and 1200 employees. resolve disputes? often. how? listen to all sides and make tough calls. 10:21:11 member of any organizations? no. just enjoying retirement? yes. in military? I wasn't. for fun? driving back and forth to Jacksonville... elderly parents, lots of brothers and sisters. jury service? yes, one was in Seminole county 3 years ago... called case before we were called. another one in orange county in 1991, I was an alternate. 10:22:20 b86... how long a resident? 1989. before that? 1971 in orange county. marital status? single. kids? 2. 20 and 21... full time student and trying to get the other one back in school, he was ill. the one in school, what does he want to be? childhood specialist. how long in employment? 10 years. member in organizations? not any more, once at birds of prey... worked in church with youth group. in military? no. jury service? 10:24:24 e6.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange. how long? since 2004. originally? Brevard. marital status? married. what does spouse do? engineer. how long married? 6 years. kids? 2, 11 and 13. current occupation? unemployed. 9 months before that and prior to that I was in school and raising kids. what filed before? financial services. member in organization? member of church and I used to volunteer at kids school 10:25:44 military? no. how do you spend time outside of work? taking care of kids, dogs, helping with the friends young kids, gardening. prior jury service? no, called but never... 10:26:09 e40... Seminole county? 7 months. before that? Iowa. how long? 2 years. before that? California. come to Florida to retire? came to work in Florida. what do you do? safety officer. how long? over 25 years. marital status? married. spouse living? chemical engineer. kids? 1 son, 28 looking for work. prior to that? he was working in western Pennsylvania in fast food service. organization? no. military? no. fun? travel, read, and sports. any particular? all but football mainly. prior jury service? yes I have served. in Pennsylvania. criminal or civil? drug dealing 10:28:14 go back and deliberate? yes. reach verdict? we were. forewoman? I was not. enjoy experience? I did 10:28:30 e54... how long in Seminole? 14 years. before that? orange. since I was 8. marital status? married for 5 years. spouse? engineering technician. kids? two step children, 16 living with us and the other is late 20s. how long working there? 3 years. before that? same field for 30 years. member involved in organizations? no. military? no. fun? reading, working on family tree, playing golf. where's family from originally? Maryland 10:29:58 passions I guess? it was for a while, now that we finished it's on the side 10:30:09 jury service? summoned but never sat 10:30:18 e73... Seminole? 13 years. prior? new jersey. grow up there? I did not. grew up? new York. current address? 13 years. marital status? married. how long? 33 years. spouse? retired. prior to that? telecommunications firm. kids? yes. how many? 2. how old and what they do? 15 on Sunday, 18. still in school? going to college. what he wants to do? I don't think he's there yet 10:31:34 retired or working? consultant. how long? 10 years. before that? large telecommunications firm. where your husband worked? yes. meet there? we did. organizations? not currently. before? various arts councils. military? no. fun? going to sporting events, children active in sports... make jewelry, read, I love the beach 10:32:28 prior jury service? yes. here in Seminole? 3 times in Seminole, once for federal court and once in Ohio. served 5 times? yes. enjoy it? not always. Ohio, criminal or civil? civil I think. deliberate? settled out of court after 5 days. federal? criminal. deliberate? I didn't get seated on jury. three here, criminal or civil? first was civil and I didn't do anything. next was criminal settled out of court, next one I didn't get seated. 10:34:16 m75.... how long in Seminole? since 2001. before that? new York. grow up there? yes. lived in current address? 2 months. prior to that? still in Seminole, just different space. married or single? single. kids? no. work? 2 months. prior? travel agent for cruise. how long? 1 year. before that? theme parks in Orlando. how long? almost 2 years. what did you do? guest service attendant moved to cashier and food service. member of organization? not currently, used to volunteer at animal shelter. military? no. fun? large family, visit with them. military service? no 10:36:22 b61... how long in Seminole? 5 years. current address for? 4 years. prior? orange, Volusia, army brat. marital status? married. how long? 2 months. husband? full time student. engineer. kids? no. engineer too? yes. how long? 7 years. member of organizations? church, professional society, and sorority. leadership? I have, but not now. military? no. fun? studying, reading and spending time with family. studying to be? for an exam. prior jury service? no 10:38:00 b72.... how long resident? 9 years. originally? Chicago. marital status? single. kids? no. work? coming to a year. same field but different job? yes. involved in organizations? alumni of fraternity. leadership? vice president of local chapter but I wouldn't say so. military? no. fun? arm wrestling, going to gym.... one arm pull up. how long? 2.5 years. wrestling in high school? weight lift, track, football 2 years. meets to arm wrestle? depends on venue, encompasses everything... I could talk about it all day 10:40:00 prior jury service? no 10:40:05 e22... how long in Seminole? 12 years. prior? orange. grow in central Florida? only since 92. up north? spend a lot of time there. married? single. kids? no. work? 19 years. organizations? social service with employer. military? no. spend time out of work? gardening, all things food. passionate about? yeah. jury service? called in asocial but didn't serve 10:41:34 e13.... how long in Seminole? 17 years. marital status? single. kids? no. how long have you been doing that? surgical assistant for 2 years. member of organizations? church. military? no. outside work? horses. passion is riding? yes. jury service? no 10:42:33 e28.... how long Seminole? 1985. before that? Texas. originally from? yes. marital? married for 28 years, 2 children... 27 and 23 work for theme park and hotel side of it. spouse do? teacher. work? 26 years. members? professional, relay for life. how you spend time out of work? yes. jury? summoned for federal, never called and served in Texas... read verdict? yes. deliberate? yes. forewoman? no. enjoy that? yes I did 10:44:16 k80... Seminole county? 2004. before? Virginia. grew up there? most of life. marital status? 15 years... spouse? maintenance tech. kids? 2. two girls. under 18? yes. work? over 5 years, same line of work for 15 years. member of organizations? attend church regularly, girl scouts, soccer. military? family members, father was navy grandfathers and cousins. fun? work absorbs time and then children. jury service? no first time 10:45:49 k95... how long in Seminole? 16 years. before that? orange for 7 and manatee for 4. marital? married. 15 years. spouse? electrician. kids? yes. how old? daughter that's 24, son that'll be 14, and a grandson. daughter? internship to be a dental hygienist. work? consultant, used to own company for 7 years. same industry for 10 10:46:51 member of organizations? yeah, ptk. pbl. fbi. Alzheimer's association, autism speaks and march of dimes. military? no. jury service? no 10:47:22 p67... why we can't do this in private... is there a way? do in private with nobody else? approach bench? VOIR DIRE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC FORM. YOU CAN APPROACH. your name is private if that's what you're worried about. I just don't want the media to put labels on me like finding something else. JURY SELECTION PROCESS HAS TO BE OPEN COURT, OPEN TO PUBLIC...ZIMMERMAN HAS RIGHT TO BE THERE, ATTORNEYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE... REMOVE OTHER JURY MEMBERS, WILL NOT CLEAR THE COURT ROOM... MAYBE A QUESTION ASKED THAT IS SENSITIVE NATURE TO YOU THAT I CAN'T CLEAR THE COURT ROOM, BUT I CAN DO IT OUTSIDE PRESENCE OF OTHER MEMBERS. 10:49:51 from where? been here since 2008. Seminole county how long? since 2008. before that? moved from Chicago. before that, originally? Mexico. how long in US? since I was 18 years old. married? yes. how long? about 20 years. kids? yes. how old? 18, and 16 and 11. still in school? just out of high school. work for how long? since 2008. involved in organizations? church. military? no. fun? helping wife, kids and watching sports. first time in jury? yes. looking forward to it? looking to have a nice experience, but it's been a nightmare. every day something is different. if it's going to affect my family I'm not looking forward to it...still feel it's a hardship for you? absolutely 10:52:34 g14... how long in Seminole? once before and recently from 2005 to now. grew up and moved out? no dad in military. marital status? divorced. former spouse? does not work at this time. what did he do? assembly. kids? 2 boys. 12 and 15. work? 3 years. before? sold print advertising. how long? 1996 to 2010. involved in organizations? boy scouts. how long? 6 years. military service? I have not been, but family. spend time outside work? boy scouts, taking care of my boys and reading. jury? summoned 2 other times, but never seated on jury 10:54:22 g29... Seminole county? 9 months. before that? in orange county. marital? single. kids? no. work? almost 6 years. before that? same field for total over 14 years. member of organizations? no. military? no. fun? friends and family and sports and TV. jury service? summoned in orange but never on jury 10:55:33 g47.... how long in Seminole? under 9 years. before? Boston, MA. marital? single. kids? nope. current job, how long? since October. before that? unemployed. member with organization? no. military? none. fun? sports friends beer. jury service? once, but it was settled 10:56:24 g63..... how long in Seminole? 4 years. before? orange. martial? single. kids? no. unemployed now, before that? teaching assistant and student. major? mathematics. member of any organizations? no. military service? no. fun? chess, Olympic weightlifting, piano. how long Olympic? a year. jury? no 10:57:40 g66.... Seminole? 2 years. prior? 12 years in Madison. prior to that? Chicago. marital? widow. spouse? mechanic for trucks. kids? 2 daughters. oldest is 36 works for entertainment company. 32 year old works for entertainment lighting... how long you work? retired. prior? at hospitals. financial advisor. member of organizations? started riding with Care Takers... motorcycle club. military? no. outside work? ride with my boyfriend, fish, spend time with family. what does boyfriend do? he sails. jury service? once in Chicago... alternate 10:59:45 g81.... how long in Seminole? 16 years. marital status? married. how long? 19 years. spouse? administrative assistant. how long? 19 years. member in organizations? professional. military service? no. fun? golf, travel, sports. prior service? no. 11:00:37 h6... Seminole? 1.5 years. prior? orange and Colorado. in Florida? since 2004. married? no. kids? no. current job? 5 months. prior to that? same line of work, but in it for 7 years now. member involved in organizations? no. military service? no. fun? relax... jury service? yes. in Seminole or others? orange. 2 years ago. criminal case. deliberate? yes. verdict? on most charges. foreman? no 11:02:04 h7.... in Seminole? 27 years, before Illinois, before Texas. married 44 years. 2 children ones 41 in Ireland. 39 in el Paso. spouse? weight watchers councilor for 25 years takes care of house. job? 40 years. member of organizations? professional associations, boy scouts for 35 years, instructor for merit badges, wife and I will have a small nursery. prior jury service? 1 in Seminole criminal case, foreperson we reached a verdict. 11:03:30 h18.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange county for almost a year. overseas before? yes. how long? 1996. marital status? going through divorce. kids? 1. girl is 7. job? in that field since I got to Florida, before that......... overseas in military? army and then contractor for defense company...involved in any organizations? no. fun? gym, tennis, swimming, with my daughter. jury service? no 11:05:05 h29... resident of Seminole? over 30 years, and orange... army brat. marital status? divorced. spouse? school teacher. kids? yeah 2 daughters, 28 and 30 year old... working with UCF and the other is handicapped. work? 30 years. member? professional and served on local city board for 15 years... leadership? yes. military? I also served too. how long? 4 years. military police? no. fun? beach, tennis... beer. jury service? summoned once 15 years ago... never sat 11:07:11 h18... military police? no 11:07:17 h35... Seminole? 24 years. martial? married. how long? 5 years. spouse? unemployed. before? lawn service. kids? no. job? unemployed taking care of grandfather before. member of organizations? was in 2010. military? no. spend time for fun? beach. jury service? no 11:08:17 h81... how long in Seminole? since 2000. prior to that? Pennsylvania. marital status? 31 years. spouse? supervisor at hotel. kids? 25 year old daughter in marketing son in navy. work? 25 years. member of organizations? 1 professional. military? no. fun? family and discovering cool internet technologies. jury service? yes. in Seminole criminal case. verdict? yes. foreman? no 11:09:39 h69... resident of Seminole? 21 years. marital status? married. how long? 11 months. spouse? technician with bright house. work? a year and 8 months. before that in school? IRA company. member of any organizations? church, human resources. military? no. fun? usually with mom or dad. prior jury service? no. 11:10:43 h86.... Seminole? born and raised. married? no. kids? no. job? 6 months. before? technician. organizations? professional and church. military? no. fun? volunteer and with family. jury? summoned, but away for school 11:11:37 i5.... how long in Seminole? 13 years. before that? Alaska for 27 years. what were you doing? working, originally in military, 7 years and then discharged work for financial... married? yes. spouse? auditor. kids? yes. 3. what do they do? oldest son is 40 worked for grocery chain, out in California. daughter is 38 works for utility company and my youngest works for IT group. work? almost 40 years. member of any organizations outside? no all professional. military police? no. fun? watching sports on TV, hang with friends, I like working with computers..... jury service? yes. Seminole or elsewhere? 2 assignments here in Seminole and when I lived in Alaska I think I had 4. 2 here, deliberate? just 1. criminal or civil? DWI. we deliberated. verdict? yes. foreman? yes. 4 in Alaska and deliberate all of them? yes. criminal or civil? all civil. foreman on 1 of them. reach verdict on all 4? yes. enjoy experiences? looking back I did... when I was on it I didn't 11:14:48 i19.... resident in Seminole? 3 years. before? orange. marital status? single. kids? no. work? 1 year. before that? retail. organizations? no. military? no. fun? school. health service admin. jury? no 11:15:36 i24... how long in Seminole? 1968. marital status? married. shy of 39 years. spouse? he is a coordinator transportation for theme park. kids? 29 athletic trainer, 22 student, 29 installer. student, studying? psychology. work? just shy of 42 years. organizations? no. military? no. fun? sports work in yard, beach, hit the road and go to mountains. jury? summoned once but never had to 11:17:09 i33... resident in Seminole? 30 years. marital? married. spouse? account manager. kids? no. work? searching for new career. how long in field before? 44 years. member in organization? yes. what kind? environmental advocacy and county board. how long? just over a year. military service? no. fun? small farm and enjoy offshore competition fishing. jury service? no. 11:18:29 i44... resident in Seminole? 2 years but 25 in orange. marital status? married. spouse? RN. kids? 3, 10, 12, and 9 month son. work? 12 years. field? before that in theme park industry. involved in organizations? Florida barbecue association. military service? no. fun? family raising little one. jury service? 4 years ago orange I was alternate 11:20:17 15 MINUTE RECESS, FOLLOW JARVIS OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. ================================================================ 11:41:13 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. approach? YES (sidebar) 11:42:19 jurors are present 11:43:26 PLEASE BE SEATED... RIONDA YOU MAY CONTINUE 11:43:39 group questions... and then individual too... sit here today, give the defendant a fair trial? yes. give the state a fair trial? yes. give both sides fair? yes. issue? believe both sides do not deserve fair trial? defendant and stat fair trial? yes 11:44:32 state has to prove defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. it's the law. court will give you instructions. states burden, understand? yes. states prove crime was committed and defendant did it? yes. 11:45:18 read like what it is not... a reasonable doubt is not forced, imaginary, speculative... must have reason for that doubt. not to a mathematical certainty, not absolute? yes 11:46:11 believe the burden should be higher than reasonable doubt, like perfection? 11:46:34 sit here today, do you all understand concept/law talks about presumption of innocence. this defendant is presumed innocent, understand? yes. not innocent, but presumed innocent? yes. abide by that? yes. 11:47:23 live in greatest country of world and our criminal justice allows for a trial. no matter what the charge, state has burden. understand? yes. trial is the way? yes 11:47:56 defendant has no obligation? yes. how do you render a verdict? court will give instructions on how to do that. rely on facts and law and also in the process you use common sense in arriving in verdict. 11:48:45 law also says you don't speculate... not allowed in arriving in verdict. speculation plays no role, rely on evidence. agree? yes 11:49:14 what witness says is evidence, no the questions 11:49:51 difference between real world and TV world or make believe. 11:50:08 b35... if attorney asks question of witness and the witness says no, what do you believe? what witness said. is that important? yes. why? he's the witness.. he knows what's going on 11:50:58 sympathy plays no role at all in verdict, understand? yes. 11:51:22 understand that sympathy can't be consider at all, agree? yes 11:51:32 k80... agree with that? yes. why? based off facts and not emotion 11:52:05 bias shouldn't play a role at all in arriving in verdict.... g63, do you believe people are bias to certain things? yes. sometimes about people with bald heads or whatever, people has bias? yes. agree bias shouldn't play role at all? correct. biases about how people dress, should play role? no. why? not relevant to the facts that happened. do you think were always able to pick if someone is bias? not always. how can you tell? maybe if they... if they act in a way with specific preference for something more if they didn't have any advice. 11:53:57 penalties in this case, judges job what the penalties are. m75... problem with that? no. can't consider what the penalties are, no role? I understand. I agree. 11:54:49 job is only to defend guilt or innocence? yes. will anyone consider the penalties, you can't do that, agree? yes. 11:55:12 agree with that b37... I agree. why? falls in sympathy part. shouldn't play role at all? should not 11:55:59 state proves evidence, direct evidence... circumstantial evidence.... direct is someone sees something. circumstantial is added to other piece of puzzle to prove something. 11:56:25 law allows that the state can use direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. I come home and wife tells me kid brought cookie jar and the kids say they didn't do it... no eye witness, question kids... but one has crumbs in her mouth... that's an inference to prove something else 11:57:55 i44... ever used circumstantial evidence? all the time. at work or home? at home. give me an example? who made the mess, it wasn't us. who had breakfast, both of us. what did you have... oatmeal and there's oatmeal all over the counter. 11:58:47 I used to ask who watches CSI, now I ask reverse. who hasn't heard of CSI? b7 you have not watched CSI? no. anyone else who hasn't watched? b29, b35, b86, b61, b72, e28, k95, p67, h69, h86, h29. 12:01:01 not the real world... people want to believe that's real, they expect that evidence to appear out of nowhere... that's not the real world. hold state of Florida to what they've seen on csi? E6 HAS A QUESTION.... E6: going back to circumstantial evidences... circumstances can be misleading, so does it have to be very... still proven beyond unreasonable doubt. 12:02:38 never watched any of those shows? still have a few. b29... why? I like drama. real world as opposed to make believe? yeah 12:03:14 also had in last 5 or 10 years an increase in real lawyer type shows... not the real world? 12:03:43 i5... ever watch those shows? watched them don't make sense to me. some of them may be lawyers? question integrity of them... real lawyer wouldn't do that 12:04:17 not going to determine guilt or innocence from TV? yes. b61, agree with that? yes. if they're not representing client they don't know the facts, may have special interest. 12:05:35 how people feel about attorneys, how many of you liked their commercials... love those commercials??? hold against state of Florida or omara because were attorneys? anybody? 12:06:11 we realize people come into court room with opinions? yes. all come in with opinion on things, right? yes. if people are exposed to things, how do we make sure they make their decision on evidence opposed to what opinion should be. e73, what do we do with people whit opinions? that's a tough one cause I don't know that you'd always know about their opinion. e54, question? I don't know how you can guarantee that's not going to happen... you hope they don't. agree with e73 and e54? yes 12:08:18 h29... how would you assure opinions do not factor in the decision? profile a jury, ask questions look for answers that will represent you and people that are fair. no good way to do it. everyone agree? yes. telling the truth to best of ability.... 12:09:34 can you follow the law as a group? be frank with us.. does anybody feel they cannot? anybody? no from everyone? yes sir 12:10:02 h6... agree with that? yes. how would you assure that it doesn't interfere? don't know how you find out how, but keep my opinion out of it 12:10:44 both sides get fair trial 12:11:08 b67.... too personal or it's alright? it's alright. g14? agree that sometimes we make assumptions that turn out not to be true? yes. ever done that? yes. example? meet somebody and think they're stuck up and then I would find out later they were shy. agree with g14? yes. has anyone ever been wrong about an assumption? 12:12:58 assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes sir 12:13:22 opinions and assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes 12:13:30 how do we know that happens? e40, how? check our personal values and hold others accountable and challenge if we see those bias. discrepancies raise an issue 12:14:13 attorneys, who knows any attorney? b12? yes. are they here in town? Tim Morgan. what practice? friend of his. talk to him about law? no. b76? my son. asked you that before? yes. b35? friend from hometown and friends I went to college with. civil or criminal? split. discuss law? no sir... b37? married to attorney, anybody else? attorneys from work that work on cases like personal injuries. criminal or civic? not that I'm aware of. interfere in any way? no sir. b51? neighbor. corporate lawyer... 12:17:03 e6? I know a woman in Colorado in contract law... e40? several from college, woman I rent house from is in real estate law and she's in Texas. e54? I do know people who are attorneys but I don't discuss with them. 12:17:53 e73? friends and family. criminal law? no 12:18:05 g47? friends' mother for Volusia. civil law. interfere? no. g14? I know a couple attorneys through boy scout, but I don't know criminal. no interference no. 12:18:59 k95? several from network associations, patent, tax and contract. no criminal? not that I know of. interference? no sir 12:19:23 k80? friends and legal counsel at our company. criminal? no. interference? no 12:19:43 e13? moms side of families, some attorneys? criminal? I have no idea.. influence? no 12:20:04 e22? three attorneys, all civil. interfere? no 12:20:14 b61? several from college, all civil and no interference 12:20:28 h6? know an attorney that does workers comp law. interfere? no 12:20:43 h7? department of defense, contract lawyers. nephew in environmentalism 12:20:50 h29? several from my profession. interfere? no 12:21:09 h81? I know 20-25 attorneys. criminal? a handful. discussions about the law? most involved around consumer law. interfere as juror? that wouldn't influence me 12:21:56 h86? past employers were attorneys... insight into law? no 12:22:09 i33? several lawyers both civil and criminal. interfere with decision? no. 12:22:40 anybody associated with law, judges? i33? I know a few sir... 12:23:01 interfere in any way to be a juror? no. 12:23:14 personal questions about arrest, victim of crime, if it's something you want in private let us know. need to know impact it may have. 12:24:02 front row, arrested? b12, here in Seminole? Daytona. still pending? no thrown out of court, never went. would that experience factor in to be fair juror? no. set aside? I was only 17 so yeah. feel you were treated fairly? for who I was with... hold against Florida? no. hold against Zimmerman? no. 12:25:07 b29? Chicago. still pending? it's been disposed of? yeah. interfere with you? no. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes. 12:25:36 b35? orange county. still pending? no. disposed of? yes. how long ago? 1987. unfairly treated? no. prosecuted or case dismissed? I was prosecuted. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes 12:26:24 e6? in Florida, Brevard back in 1999. pending? no. treated fairly. 12:27:13 h7? 40 years ago state of Texas. not pending? correct. treated fairly? absolutely. it was acquitted. hold against? no 12:28:04 h81? Seminole. pending? no. how long ago? yr. and a half ago. treated fairly? yes. no charges it was detained.. no charges. hold against? no 12:28:55 i33? Seminole. pending? no. treated unfairly? yes. arrested or prosecuted? both. won't hold it against anybody. what happened to your case? go to court, pay a fine. won't hold against? no sir. 12:30:00 anybody been a subject of criminal investigation? no from everybody 12:30:14 close friend arrested and you felt was treated unfairly? b7? family or close friend? close friend. pending? no. orange county. arrested unfairly. dropped? I don't know. hold against? no. 12:31:13 k95? friend in Ohio arrested and treated unfairly. pending? no. when she was incarcerated. drop charges on her? no. told by the judge she could take medicine and they didn't give to her, brought her to hospital 12:32:28 b61? someone was arrested, treated unfairly. charges were dropped. here in Florida? yes. pending? no. hold against? no. 12:33:06 A LOT OF YOU HERE.... AN HOUR ENOUGH? COME BACK AT 1:45. WHILE ON LUNCH BREAK, GO WITH EACH OTHER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THIS CASE. NO RADIO OR TV REPORTS. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES. ASSURANCE TO ABIDE BY INSTRUCTIONS? 12:34:23 COURT IN RECESS FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:45 ================================================ 13:46:07 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. DO WE HAVE THE JURORS BACK? COUNCIL APPROACH FOR JUST A MOMENT (sidebar) 14:02:46 PLEASE BE SEATED. WELCOME BACK. APPEARS TO BE HERE AND IN CORRECT PLACES. DURING LUNCH DID ANY OF YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? DID ANY OF YOU READ OR LISTEN TO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE? USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE ABOUT THE CASE? READ OR CREATE ANY THING ABOUT THE CASE? 14:03:39 rionda: welcome back. 14:04:05 h81... a friend or close family member? close friend. in Seminole? no. Pennsylvania. treated unfairly? yes. in prosecution. hold against us? I would no. interfere? it would not. 14:05:05 were you a victim of a crime that it impacted you so much you wouldn't be able to participate? 14:05:26 b76? yes. b7? yes. b86? yes. anybody else? e40? e73? second row: e22? k80? k95? last row: g81? h7? h35? h81? i33? i44? did I get everybody? 14:06:35 violent crime? e73, b86, k80, e22. 14:07:09 you have to set it aside for the purposes of this trial. agree to leave outside court room... think you cannot, raise your hand... e73? just because of the nature that happened to you? it was a very similar crime. wouldn't be able to.... set it aside? it's always in my mind. 14:08:27 anybody else? 14:08:49 victims of crime, let me broaden criteria... crime to your household, felt police did not do a good job investigating? b7. home break in. here in Seminole? it was. they didn't do a good job? they didn't investigate at all. do you think that would impact you at all in this case to sit as juror or can you set aside? no. it wasn't a big deal. agree to leave outside court? yeah. 14:10:17 in that case, were you present? I came home and scared of burglars I think. chase them? no. knew better? I didn't realize until later.... called police and they didn't respond? when I was in high school, police came and they asked what was stolen and officer asked me if any of my friends did this. ever find out who it was? no. anybody else? 14:11:31 b86... many years ago, fast food restaurant. police officer scared us more than the person who just robbed us with the gun. going to our car when gun was pulled on us, we ran back into the restaurant after guy grabbed a bag... police knocked on door and we thought it was the guy again. make him go around so we can see him. tell us you're a police officer, he said "this isn't TV". hold against? no. know who was arrested? yes. he hit us twice, finally got caught. testify? no I couldn't pick him out. 14:13:33 does anybody live in community in which there is no crime? anybody? collective no. 14:14:02 steps to address it in your neighborhood? e54... I assume there's crime in my neighborhood, not personally aware of it. 14:14:42 k95... I would put up a no soliciting sign in my neighborhood. effective? yes. anything further? no. there's a neighborhood watch. are you a part of it? no. 14:15:12 e73... we had a sudden increase in crime in neighborhood. they started a watch. join it? no, but went to a meeting. set up in uniform? no. armed? I don't think so. not involved in watch? no 14:15:54 anybody else? b76... just had teens vandalizing signs... police took care of it. we had a watch I just told them about it. any steps yourself to get involved? telling the other neighbors 14:16:30 b35...still with us... closing your eyes just want to make sure 14:16:51 b7: what was the question again. crime in community and you got involved? no. 14:17:26 feel like people have the right to take law into their own hands? anybody? i5 shaking your head.... there may be occasions, but basically I would say no. g63... crimes in neighborhood? I'm assuming? watch in your community? not that I'm aware of. your last question was very general we have governments that we authorize to do that. 14:19:17 as individuals people shouldn't. g7, agree? where is the process or a citizen's arrest. I don't know how it applies. 14:19:45 other than what law allows, try to arrest people on your own? never have. i24, ever crossed your mind to arrest someone? no but I would do something if they tried to break into my house. id protect my family 14:20:34 can everybody agree the law applies equally to everyone? yes. it should or it doesn't? 14:20:54 b7.... hear a lot about it in the news. always believe? not always. 14:21:13 law matter about which part of county? no. difference in wealth class? no. matter if gated or not? no. where they're from? no. b72, it shouldn't matter? no. why not? when you see the law, the law applies to everyone it doesn't discriminate or consider race or sex. if we use this as criteria, the whole system goes down. 14:22:26 should it matter about race gender or ethnicity? no. 14:22:53 ever been a witness and testify? g81... was it here in Seminole? no. orange. proceeding or hearing or trial? it was juvenile system, proceeding. testify? yes. treated fairly by lawyers and judge and deputies? yes I was. anything about that you felt would interfere? nothing that happened there 14:23:56 h7: I've given depositions before. was it unpleasant it would influence you? no it was not. representation from both sides and told them what I knew. told the truth as best you could remember? yes 14:25:03 h29... I've been deposed before. anything about that experience? I was on the good guy side, never got to the other side. 14:25:23 h81... deposition, hearing, trial? I've been a witness a few times... treated unfairly? no. 14:26:00 i24... I was a witness in a car accident. eye witness? yeah and we had to verify who hit who. more than one? several people. all have to come to court? no we all went to court and stood in front of judge and told her what we saw. questioning you? just the judge... 14:27:00 g63... witness for criminal trial in orange county. eye witness? I was an eye witness to nothing. still called? yes. badgered in any way by either side? no. it wasn't unpleasant it was inconvenient. impact you? no 14:27:48 k80.... witness in child custody case. in front of court? no jury, just a judge. treated fairly? yes, no badgering.. civil questions. 14:28:22 k95... federal lawsuit case, it wasn't a good experience. because of way you were treated? yes. by who? attorneys and judge. judge nelson? no. it wasn't in this state. attorneys were asking improper questions? I was told I was at an economic disadvantage. scream back at them? kept my cool and had to pay it off. terrible experience? yes. hold against? no this was business 14:29:50 e22... I've been deposed. treated fairly? yes. deposition end there or another proceeding? never went to trial. that experience that you were treated unfairly? no. 14:30:30 e6... custody trial and domestic violence... nothing about the proceedings. treated fairly? yes. impact? no. e40... witness to car accident, no jury... I was treated fairly. other people eye witness too. there when other witnesses testified? I was around... 20 years ago though. 14:31:40 all read the witness list... cover that. how you know the person and the impact of that.... 14:32:16 e6... SHES IN SEAT NUMBER 9, GIVE HER LIST. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. recognize that as yours? yes. circled two names on front page. one of them starts with d and j... professional or social? I recognize the name I don't personally know them. recognize them as physician. impact you? no it would not. also have under that name, three down from that. know the name? I don't know them personally, received referral to her for one of my children. impact? no. some on last page... last name with w recognize name or the person? just the name. impact? no. third from bottom starts with z and s? know them? no. recognize name? yes. impact? no. 14:35:16 i33.... first page, last name starts with b and first name is c. know them or recognize name? right, could be somebody that I name... I have no idea if I know them or not. assuming it's the same person you know, what do they do for a living? construction business. person you know is him? correct. with the work you do? yes. if he testified, find him more credible? no sir, not necessarily no. if it's the same person could you rely just on what they said as opposed to knowing them? absolutely. another name with a c and a b? correct. recognize? just heard the name. no impact on you? no sir. first person/ another relationship, fun thing and I see him once a year... fun thing, activity? yeah it would ID me. you interact with him though? yes sir 14:38:23 last page, last name w and n? yes. recognize or personal? recognize name. know them other than that? no. 14:38:45 toward bottom of page, z and s? recognize the name. impact? no sir 14:39:22 juror number.... second page j and c... know them? as a celebrity... not the person that were talking about here. ok? and someone else.... last page last name with w and d? how do you know them? name I think I recognize. impact? no. 14:40:29 b61.... last page, at top? yes. personal or professional? if same person it's personal but haven't seen them in 2-3 years. friends? yes. exercise together. hear them on witness stand find them more or less credible? it wouldn't impact if it were any other witness. how close, how much interaction? person in social organization, saw her a lot for a while. over a yr. or two? a couple years while I was in school. is this person still a member of that organization? yes. impact you? no 14:42:49 hear from witness, evaluate based on insurrections from court? yes. g47, depend if witness has job? no. why? irrelevant to the case. g29 does it matter if they're law enforcement? no. everyone agree? yes 14:43:37 e54 agree with that? sure 14:43:41 law allows for certain witnesses to be treated differently, experts can give opinion opposed to other witnesses. e13... agree with that? yes would say.. e28 agree? yes. why? they're experts in that field. evaluate and use instructions from court and the expertise? yes 14:44:43 b51.... agree with that? I do. why? education or experience and wouldn't call on them to discuss position or opinion without experience. ever had to rely on expert testimony? not testimony. go to expert for advice? no. anybody? b7.... rely on experts on constant basis 14:45:41 b35... agree? yes. why? practice in their field. b76 agree? yes. b12... agree? yes. why? education and school and have knowledge of that. H69 HAS QUESTIONS. h69: if attorney asked for opinion and they didn't just interject it? yes. that they asked for opinion and they didn't just interject opinion. if attorneys ask expert could you rely on his opinion? yes. why? I'm going to assume a witness researches before getting on the stand... rely on expert if both side find them to be an expert 14:47:55 in this type of case, since the trial is murder.... H86... also wondering if witness on stand only giving facts or opinions unless were asking for their opinion? right... e6... clarify to me I would believe an expert has studied and accumulated knowledge in area, but sometimes experts don't always agree even if in the same field, how is that treated? use your common sense and if it's credible. judge will give instructions about that. expert can give opinion. you can find an opinion with the one you wanted... You decide... 14:50:21 juror number..... person is an expert and we assume they are.. court will give you a ruling on that. expert is entitled to give opinion. if a juror finds a person is qualified as expert they don't have to accept that opinion. you would hear their qualifications and make that determination. 14:51:44 exposed to photos you've never been exposed to, problem looking at photos? does everyone understand the question? ok? yes 14:52:29 b37 you're fine with that... yes. b35.. yes 14:52:39 everyone else agree? yes 14:52:44 law enforcement experience? nobody. h86? not myself, but two aunts and uncles who are lieutenants. 14:53:19 h86, family in law enforcement? yes. departments here in Seminole? I believe it's orange. discuss matters with them about justice system? in the past I have. impact your decision? no. how extensive, more than 1? 3 family members. close with them? 2 of them. interact on weekly basis? yes. uniform? yes. how long in field? over 20 years. look up to them for advice? in general, yes. pursue law enforcement career? no. 14:54:37 k95... when you say law enforcement, but 40 years ago I worked in retail where I used to watch shop lifters... watched them and recorded them. apprehend them? no. I just do my job and report to manager.... someone else would apprehend? yes. successful? yes. how? bust a lot of my sisters friends. 14:55:50 anybody else I overlooked... i24? sort of in same situation... I didn't catch them. I did translation when they did get caught and they didn't speak English. for a company who had a lot of guests who got caught shop lifting. what language? Portuguese. several years? quite a lot. enjoy it? yes. anything that would interfere? no. k95... anything that would interfere? no 14:57:01 anybody else? k80.... family members. tell me? uncle who was in SWAT and cousin is NCIS agent. occasions to discuss with them? no. there are stories after the fact. interfere? no 14:57:42 b35.... family members mom worked for sheriff's department and cousins in police in Titusville. see them regularly? once or twice a year. discussions about job? 14:58:14 how come you didn't join department? first not to go into law enforcement because I went to school. not exciting enough? make a little more money and wanted to do my own thing. impact you one way or another? no. more incline to favor police officer? no 14:59:05 b7.... law enforcement, my wife used to work in the field, often had discussions about it. her job and dealing with victims? absolutely. how do you feel about that, would it impact you here? no. it was a while ago. in this case you have a victim, favor state in this case? no. wouldn't impact you? not when I last served on jury 15:00:13 b86... I used to do transcription for private investigator... a while ago? 15 yes ago in orange. former officer? yeah. record and you would transcribe? yes. impact favoring? no. 15:00:54 e6... include close friends? anybody important for us to know about.... family friend he was SWAT detective... he just left the force and went into private sector but served almost 17 years... impact your opinion? no 15:01:41 b12.... my dad was a Syracuse cop and my nephew is FBI agent. anything about nature of that would favor one side? no. 15:02:36 h69... any family member? yeah. cousin who works for government.... she's working with homeland security... opportunities to discuss her job? some times. anything about what she does you feel would impact you one way or another? no. desire to join her? it sounds exciting, but not for me 15:03:34 k95.... family or friends? yes someone important to let us know. acquaintances from homeland security and friend that is head of security. discuss criminal matters? no. the law? no. 15:04:14 k80.... friends? some close to you. neighbors son in law is US Marshall... and another Seminole county deputy and then another one and family friend have deputies at jail... discussions with them? no. interfere? no 15:05:02 e22.... close friend who was in law enforcement for 2 decades... discussions? interfere? no. 15:05:27 g66... my brother in law retired from police enforce, my niece is.... discuss matters? about what they do. desire to join? when I was younger. impact you? no 15:06:05 H7 HAS HAND UP... h7: friends through boy scouts. never discussed outside of scouts. no impact one way or another 15:06:29 i19... my uncle is police officer. still? yes. local? somewhere else. impact you? no. 15:06:57 i24... husband's niece is married to gentleman in fbi. anything about that? no. 15:07:19 i33... my wife's father is retired sheriff. no impact. in this county? different state. impact you? no 15:07:44 anybody in this room that has not had a dispute with another person? anybody? physical dispute? b35... verbal to physical. a long time ago? yeah. resolve it between you two? once or twice police were called. impact you? no sir 15:08:34 anybody else? e6... I was involved in domestic violence. impact? no. b7? fight in middle school... (Everyone laughs) I think I lost. any impact? no 15:09:33 k95... just domestic. impact you? no. 15:09:45 disputes where you worked it out? everyone? b61 have you? yes. how? talk about it. 15:10:19 g66? dispute where you resolved? yes. without violence? yes. talking loud walking away 15:10:34 medical experience, in the field one way or another? g47....registered EMT. impact? not that I'm aware of. k95... CNA and activity director. anyone else? e40... certified health care officer. b12.... 15:11:42 e28.... medical. h86? home health CNA before RN. 15:12:07 other than b72... fitness people? h18... work out all the time? lifting every morning, play tennis... e13.... weight lift and run and go to gym. b72... wrestling, anybody else wrestle? boxing? h29... trying to get more George Forman on.... in the military. how well? middle levels before someone was young. I remember 5, 6.... (everyone's laughing) 15:13:46 anybody else? g63... weight lifting? yes. training for sport. endurance type thing? weight lifting. for a year? yes. 15:14:09 h18... boxing? martial arts since I was a kid. 15:14:36 involved in martial arts? yes. green belt. b86.... tae-kwon-do with my kids... couple years senior blue belt. 15:15:16 training in phonetics? linguistics? I did sign language many years ago. (juror number) 15:15:41 e13... four years of sign language 15:15:49 live in gated community? g63... 4 years ago community had security guard in its entrance. i19, h86, h81.... 15:16:28 live in neighborhood with a watch? b7... seen the signs, but I'm... b35? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e73? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e22 watch? sign but I don't know who's on it? involved? no. k80? watch? yes. involved? no and my husband is block captain but I don't know what he does. k95? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. (two more jurors... not involved) 15:18:32 g63... not where I live but before, I don't know who was involved. 15:18:45 last row: h18? involved? no. h29... we have signs. involved? no. I know some ladies who are. 15:19:18 anybody consider expert in DNA? no from everybody 15:19:51 who does not have a cell phone? everyone has one. anyone an expert on cell phones? i44... working knowledge of that.... 15:20:27 expert someone beyond being able to turn it on. (juror number): I am... witness? no. records of calls?. anyone else. b7? same circumstance. e73? same responses. g47: I consider myself tech savvy. k95: I have a lot of jobs, work in IT. 15:21:53 agree people dress differently? way they dress does it matter? no. 15:22:22 assume certain things based on attire? e6... lots of different things. woman dressed or wearing expensive things....rich? either that or give that appearance. if they're not, they're poor? could mean many different things. known wealthy man who preferred to dress down. we make assumptions 15:23:30 in terms of law, what does it say about assumptions? they don't count. 15:24:04 this case the victim, martin and defendant are different race, does it matter? no. h35... does it matter? absolutely not. that doesn't matter ever anywhere.... everyone agree? yes 15:24:35 victim as court read was under 18... O'Mara: approach? YES (sidebar) 15:27:49 IS EVERYONE OK TO GO ON? GO AHEAD 15:27:58 rionda: victim was under 18, does anyone believe his life is worth less because he was a minor? no. black African America, worth less? no 15:28:37 believe in right to bear arms? yes 15:28:41 who has a firearm or access to one? b35... personally own? yes. more than one? yes. target practice and hunting. what kind? caliber and shot gun. proficient? yes train in military. how often? a couple months. holster? yes. more than one? yes. internal or external? external. concealed permit? yes. 15:29:54 b76... I don't have any in our home, but we have family members that do in their own home. any experience yourself? no 15:30:12 b37.... used to have concealed weapons permit. husband wanted me to renew but I don't have a gun... no point. I can shoot a gun. we used to go out to range and shooting. basic familiarity with it 15:30:49 e6... husband has 9 millimeter, .38 and rifles... my son has a hunting rifle and bb guns. you yourself involved in firing? went to range one time and sometimes target practice with bb guns 15:31:27 e40.. brother in law has hunting rifles 15:31:38 b12.... fired a gun one time in my life and fell on my but, my son has gun and my mom and sister 15:31:57 m75.... my brother in law has 2 guns, a .38 and another handgun. shooting with him? no... goes with my sister and daughter 15:32:25 b61 repeat? do you have a firearm or have access to one. 15:32:37 ever fired a gun... recreational... 15:32:49 b7 my father has some. 15:33:03 e22... good friend has a firearm 15:33:09 e13... my step dad has a few, went and fired once 15:33:20 b86.... fired one once 15:33:43 k80.... yes own firearms... fired before? yes. familiar. own one yourself and carry with holster? no. no concealed weapons 15:34:10 k95.... I do and my son does. 15:34:17 p67... no I don't 15:34:25 g66... yes I have a .32. fire on occasion? periodically. holster? no 15:34:46 i44... hand gun. fire yourself? yes 15:35:00 i33... rifles. shooting purposes? hunting 15:35:16 i24.... handguns. revolver? yes 15:35:26 i19.... my father has them for hunting.. shoot yourself? no 15:35:38 h86... my brother in law has several. shot yourself? yes. handgun and a rifle. know the difference between semi-automatic and revolver? yes 15:36:07 h81... go to range, but don't shoot my own guns 15:36:22 (juror number) .. mom has one 15:36:29 h29...... I have daughters, so I have shot guns.... revolver and rifle 15:36:48 h18... I do. 15:36:57 h7... yes I do. member of nra? yes. anybody else? no 15:37:08 h6... father owns numerous guns and I've gone with him to the range 15:37:34 have guns or are familiar, responsibility with having one? yes. believe than h7? absolutely. everyone agree with him? yes 15:37:55 agree with that i44? yes. 15:38:01 anybody not agree? everyone agrees 15:38:12 defendant charged with murder in second degree, haven't heard evidence I don't want opinion, but can you follow a law...state has to prove victim is dead, the death was caused by criminal act of Zimmerman, and unlawful killing of martin by an act dangerous to another in a depraved mind without regard to human life.... act includes series of related to.... immanently dangerous to a deprived mind if an act that a person of ordinary judgment was known to seriously kill or done from ill will or of such nature it indicates indifferent to human life... follow that? yes. 15:40:11 not necessary for state to prove intent... 15:40:28 doesn't require certain number of shots or motive 15:40:46 understand there can be defenses to crimes, understand? yes 15:41:10 insanity or self-defense... justifiable use of deadly force...follow instruction about that? yes. 15:41:38 last week and this week about media and publicity and hardship... most of you heard that both sides expect trial to last 2-4 weeks....jury will be sequestered... family member p67... letter that it would be hardship. in addition to what you said? yes. anybody else in that predicament? b61: can you explain sequestered 15:43:42 housed together, but interaction with others will be limited.... won't be able to go home at night. contact with outside world limited. have some contact, court will give instructions about that... monitored contact. 15:45:36 b7... first time I heard about it.... I have questions that are.... 15:45:48 e6... I didn't realize, does that include weekends... YES ENTIRE TIME OF TRIAL. ok.... 15:46:11 b37: you have some contact with family. ALL THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED LATER, WILL HAVE CONTACT BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED.. WILL HAVE CONTACT 15:46:37 b6... include telephone calls can they visit? ALLOWED TO VISIT, LIMITED AS TO TIME...LIMITED PHONE CONTACT... emails? YES IT WILL BE LIMITED. YOU WON'T BE CUT OFF FROM FAMILY, STAYING IN A FACILITY, HOTEL IN THE AREA AND ALL MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED AND TRANSPORTATION AND PERSON NEEDS DURING THE TRIAL. 15:47:38 k80: if this group is sequestered where we can't return to our homes, will this case be 7 days a week? NO. so everyone gets to go home on weekends but we can't? CORRECT. PLANNED ACTIVITIES FOR YOU, THERE WILL BE MEALS... I MEAN ITS... MORE WILL BE EXPLAINED 15:48:29 rionda: attorneys and court will be busy with other matters, were not going on vacation for the weekend 15:49:01 can all of you agree since you haven't heard evidence you have to keep open mind? yes. understand that part of process is that decision needs to be unanimous? yes. 15:49:31 haven't heard evidence, presuming defendant innocent? yes. use common sense and evidence for decision? yes. could you convict him if evidence showed he was guilty? yes. and opposite? yes 15:50:11 people should be held responsible and accountable for actions? yes. picked as juror and evaluating evidence, use god given common sense to get verdict that speaks the truth? yes. 15:50:40 I'm going to sit down.... but before I do... any matter that you think you need to bring to my attention? collective no. thank you very much 15:51:16 15 MINUTE... O'Mara: approach. YES (sidebar) 15:56:15 how long will we have to get our stuff in order... I WILL TELL YOU WHEN SELECTED ON JURY 15:56:34 b61: questionnaire did that say anything about sequestering. YES IT DID... ITS NOT AS LONG AS INDICATED 15:57:04 ITS BEEN A LONG DAY AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE O'MARA BEGIN VOIR DIRE AND KEEP YOU LATE AND HAVE SPLIT IT UP... RELEASE FOR THE NIGHT. COME BACK AT 9 AM. NOT TO READ OR LISTEN TO RADIO OR TV REPORTS, NOT TO DISCUSS CASE. NOT TO USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO GET ON INTERNET. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES ABOUT CASE. ASSURANCE YOU WILL ABIDE? yes. ANY ISSUE... PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. P67...INDICATED MAYBE HAVING THINGS TO DISCUSS, PLEASE REMAIN AND WILL DISCUSS AFTER THAT. EVERYONE ELSE AT A QUARTER TO 9 AM. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 15:59:54 COMFORTABLE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. 16:00:01 rionda: P67 letter from a family member? my wife wrote about it. trouble to serve? yes. tell us more? don't tell us where you work, but the media has rights to be present. work related? yes. express in letter? yes. wife wrote letter because she's more fluent in English? yes. had her write it because she could say it better? part for her and part for me she's worried about the situation. create hardship with wife and monetary? yes. like lately my little one I don't know what she heard in the news, lately she's been living with me thinking somebody is going to get me. also nice to discover how much she loves me 16:02:28 would that in your opinion impact you to pay attention? yes. of course. anything else you want to say to judge about that? that's all. just about my family. oh the other thing, the leveling or title... been things in media that my wife and older kids.. for example: media ask a resident or citizen or Hispanic, but then don't like how media express or a nickname all over the internet. media put your name on the internet or a certain way? yes. how did you find out? my wife found out through internet and my two biggest ones. they wanted to know what's going on with dad. your wife and kids saw on internet and alerted you and you said you didn't want to talk about it? yeah. impact on your kid and wife? yes. concern about that as a result? yes. interfere with paying attention? yes. 16:05:02 O'Mara: minor concerns and I want to see if they stack... media? yes. media in court room prohibited from putting you on camera... I am, but you are not... they can't put your face or information... not public, understand that? yes sir. concern to be they have identified you by some descriptors, like a white female whatever... and you they described as well? yes. concerned by a term the way the described you? I prefer they call me a resident or citizen or Hispanic. the other one telling my kids or wife..... something else on the internet? told me they saw "Mexican". concern to be Mexican than resident? yes. 16:07:22 sounds like they were labeling you? yes which I'm not happy about.... I represent the system, we apologize about any insensitivity from the media... as juror you're being exposed to that in a profile case its unavoidable... not sure we can un-do that.... maybe media will learn lesson to be culturally sensitive. 16:08:17 30 days your employer doesn't need to pay you? that's a part of it 16:08:28 about the service and the jury I noticed a couple things, seemed to me you were looking forward to it as a citizen, feel that way still? yes, but if it takes this long... issues. I was thinking 2-3 weeks, yeah let's get it done... without guessing too much we may start Monday.... last 2-4 weeks and then you deliberate and we'd be done.... timeline put out there now.... 16:09:38 mention that because of the publicity, your little ones was wrapping arms around your leg... a loss for you and family temporarily if here with us... such imposition that it is insurmountable, you can't do it for destroying purposes? my family will be destroyed. if not to that level... hoping you would consider it... inconvenient for you, accomplish if we ask you to, 2-4 weeks? definite inconvenience. not trying to minimize that, but as citizens as we take on the role of doing everything, there's not much more asked of our citizens but war and ask them to serve on jurors... 16:12:04 if we ask you, is it something that you can accomplish even past its inconvenience? 16:12:34 judge will clear up the confusion, but in sequestration being with us you will have contact with family, telephone monitored, visits with family members monitored... not in prison but in situation where you maintain contact but supervised way to protect process...any questions that I can help answer for you to make decision to sit as juror 16:13:54 I just want to you to consider my situation. if pick you can you sit with us? if that's the only option I guess... well you can say no, but if it's an inconvenience, say yes... if it's because of destruction than you can't.... call is yours. if you can under what we talked about.... I just can't with consequences coming if over 4 weeks. I don't want to end up on the street. if I was single, it wouldn't be a problem. 16:15:09 rionda: the media itself or the internet with comments? they saw on internet, I don't know where.... EXCUSED FOR EVENING, SEE YOU TOMORROW IN THE MORNING. 16:15:44 PLEASE BE SEATED, COUNCIL COME TO BENCH..(sidebar) 16:16:22 COURT RECESS FOR THE DAY ====================================
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL POOL 061913 P5
INT BROLL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRAYVON MARTIN TRIAL / SWITCHED POOL FEED **NOTE: JUDGE'S COMMENTS IN CAPS **NAMES OF WITNESSES IN RED **VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS IN (PARENTHESES) **GOOD STATEMENTS/VIDEO BOLD 8:58:37 (Zimmerman enters, tan suit blue shirt and brown tie) (court rearranged differently) 9:00:12 PLEASE BE SEATED, GOOD MORNING. ON THE RECORD. ONE JUROR IS A FEW MINUTES LATE, WAIT FOR THEM. COUNCIL APPROACH FOR ONE MOMENT 9:00:59 (sidebar) 9:09:51 RECESS UNTIL THE POTENTIAL JURORS GET HERE 9:10:08 COURT IN RECESS ============================ 9:27:02 ATTORNEYS REQUEST THE FRYE HEARING BE TOMORROW AT 2. (sidebar) 9:31:03 deputy: jurors are present 9:32:36 PLEASE BE SEATED. GOOD MORNING... BEGIN WHATS REALLY THE JURY SELECTION, BEFORE WAS PRE SELECTION PROCESS... INSTRUCTIONS: IN ORDER TO HAVE FAIR TRIAL, RULES JURY MUST FOLLOW. MUST DECIDE CASE ON EVIDENCE IN COURT. DON'T COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CASE. DO NOT DISCLOSE YOUR THOUGHTS OR ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO DECIDE. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES OR COMMUTERS TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS CASE. DO NOT SEND OR ACCEPT MESSAGES ABOUT THIS CASE. MUST NOT DO RESEARCH THAT MAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CASE. APPLIES IN COURT HOUSE, SEQUESTRATION, OR ANY WHERE ELSE. DEPENDING ON YOU TO FOLLOW RULES FOR A FAIR TRIAL. INVESTIGATE OR RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, NO WAY TO ASSURE THEY ARE PROPER OR RELEVANT TO CASE. NO OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE EVIDENCE. BECOME AWARE OF VIOLATIONS OF INSTRUCTIONS, MUST TELL ME BY NOTE FROM COURT DEPUTY. 9:35:40 GOING TO BEGIN JURY SELECTION PROCESS, KNOWN AS VOIR DIRE. PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE IF THE DECISION WOULD BE FAIR BASED ON EVIDENCE WITHOUT INFLUENCE FROM OUTSIDE FACTORS. NOT FOR PURPOSE OF PRYING INTO AFFAIRS... 9:36:27 CHARGES SET FORTH FOR ZIMMERMAN.... EVERY PERSON ACCUSED IS TO KNOW THE EXACT CHARGE. STATE OF FLORIDA VS. ZIMEMRMAN 12CF10838A COUNT 1 MURDER IN SECOND DEGREE. ON FEB. 26, 2012 ZIMMERMAN UNLAWFULLY KILLED MARTIN UNDER THE AGE OF 18, SHOOTING VICTIM. ZIMMERMAN CARRIED DISPLAYED USED ATTEMPT TO USE FIREARM. AS RESULT OF DEATH, INFLICTED UPON ANY PERSON.......... 9:38:13 INTRODUCED TO PARTICIPANTS OF THIS TRIAL. ARE ANY OF YOU RELATED TO ATTORNEYS OR ZIMMERMAN? NO HANDS ARE BEING RAISED 9:38:37 HANDED A LIST OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES IN THE CASE. IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY NAMES PLEASE CIRCLE THEM. MANY MORE NAMES LISTED THAN ACTUALLY CALLED... REVIEW THAT. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY INDIVIDUALS... ASK YOU TO TELL US WHAT PAGE AND WHAT NUMBER THEY ARE OR THEIR INITIALS. DONE READING, PLEASE LOOK UP. 9:46:19 SHOW OF HANDS BY FIRST ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE WITNESS NAMES? 9:46:46 (couldn't hear the juror number) ANYONE ON FRONT PAGE YOU RECOGNIZE? first page. HOW MANY? 2. they're both d's. FIRST NAME? j and d. first and fourth d. ATTORNEYS WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST? no. 9:48:06 SECOND ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE NAMES? B61? HOW MANY? just 1, perhaps the last page the first one. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND ROW? G63? HOW MANY? 2. WHAT PAGE? second page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? j. initial of first name? c. 5 OR 6TH DOWN FROM J's? 1 of them. the 5th. WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? last page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? w. INITIAL OF FIRST NAME? e. FIRST WD OR LAST WD? I only see one. oh it's the first. 9:50:14 ANYBODY ELSE? ON THE THIRD ROW? JUROR i33? WHO BY PAGE? first page last name b, first name c. THE LAST B? yes. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST YOU RECOGNIZE? number 32, last c. CB? correct. last page...last name w, first name n. OK. I do have one more. last name z first name s. OK, COVER ALL OF THOSE? yes. 9:52:21 ANYBODY ELSE? JUROR E6. on last page, last name w first name n and last name z and first name s. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9:53:20 rionda: good morning... introduce myself to you all. reviewing why this is important 9:55:11 spent last week and first two days of this week going through the process, asked all of you questions related to case regarding publicity. individual so it didn't contaminate other juror's knowledge. important at arriving a decision comes from this court room. agree? yes. issue with that, outside of courtroom can't factor into decision? 9:56:18 what you saw or read from media is irrelevant. now in stage 2. question you individually and collectively about this case or background stuff about you 9:56:45 assure us that you will give consideration to all questions asked? yes 9:56:59 if during this process I ask individually or as a group and you feel uncomfortable talking about it in a group, let us know.... 9:57:41 juror b7? correct. do you want us to bring up issues about that and the time of the question? yes sir 9:58:06 were trying to get a jury that speaks the truth and arrive at just verdict 9:58:20 some of you were talked to last week and others were Monday and Tuesday... anyone go home and celebrate going through to next round? nobody? 9:58:42 appreciate you've taken this time already. 9:58:59 juror b12.... as talked about individually, how long resident of Seminole county? at least 40 years. how long have you lived at current address? 19 years. live in state of Florida before that? Michigan. left there when I was 9. married? no. divorced? yes. how long married before divorce? a yr. what does former spouse do for living? he's dead. children? 2. how old? 32 and 19. what do they do for living? one's a full time student and the other one owns his own company. medical field and construction worker. how long have you been at current employer? since October. before that? home health nurse. how long? 5 years. supervise people in that position? no. before that? CNA. how long total? 5 years. members or involved in organizations at all? volunteer work for moose lodge and my church. how long, long time? yeah. 10:02:51 leadership position? no anymore. prior experience? no. outside work and volunteering, anything else? raising my daughter, I'm a mother. any other hobbies? part of red hat society. I like my wine and going to the beach. served on jury before? no. just don't like the media being there.... that takes away his privileges, they put everything everywhere.... 10:05:31 b29... originally from Chicago? yes. grew up there? yes. married? yes. how long? 10 years. kids, yes? lots. how many? 8. under age of 18? one is over 18. how old is that one? going to be 20. live with you and husband? resides with me now. going to school or working? arrived a few weeks ago, looking for work 10:06:32 how long at employment? 3 months. prior to that? CNA. how long? 7 years. member of organization? my house. military service? no. spend time outside work, but I know answer and what you're passionate about? kids. jury service? no. 10:07:34 b76... how long in Seminole? since 1995. how long at current address? 1 week. prior to that? another address. originally from? been here since 1966. marital status? married. how long? 30 years. children? 2. how old? 28 attorney, 26 CNA. does your son practice in Seminole? yes. what practice? not criminal, foreclosures, bankruptcies, divorce, and contract. ever practiced criminal law? no. 10:08:59 picked as jury and they haven't talked about law and you can't call your son and ask him? yes I understand. 10:09:25 how long at current place of employment? unemployed. prior? husband and I had construction company. how long? 15 yes. husband still involved in that business? no. helping out children built their home. manage rental properties. involvement? I rescue a lot of pets. how long? a long time. military service? no. outside house? managing properties and rescuing animals. passion? rescuing animals. prior jury service? no 10:10:43 b7.... living in Seminole? between orange and Seminole 30 years. born and raised in Florida. married? yes. how long? 10 years. what does spouse do? just got out of school to be a teacher. kids? no. current occupation? 11 years. any management duties? I will. tell us about that? going to be elite position among others in similar roles. how many will you supervise? just 2-3. member in organization? I'm sure I am through her. military service? no. outside work? watch sports... love video games. socialize with friends go out to bar. passion? not passionate about a lot of stuff. ever served as juror? I have. how long ago? before I was working at current job, 12-15 years. Seminole or orange? Seminole. criminal or civil? criminal. reach a verdict? yes. fore person? no. enjoy it? I did. it was one day. 10:13:37 b35.... how long in Seminole? since 1985. current address? 12 yes. marital status? married. how long? going on 20+ years. what does spouse do? local TV. is she a reporter? no. comments I made about media you won't hold against me. 10:14:24 any kids? yes. 1 son in college now. what is he studying? engineering. current occupation, how long? I manage tax office in the year, vending machines and rental... for about 7 years... before that? properties around central Florida. member in organization? fraternity and football coach. how long? 13 years. military service? yes Marine Corp Reserves. how long? 6 years. military police? no. how do you spend time out of work? watching sports, coaching, spending time together. 10:16:07 real passion in life? coaching football.... served as juror? no 10:16:19 b37.... Seminole county? 18 years. prior? dad was air force captain. born in California, but went from coast to other. married? yes. 20 years. spouse job? space attorney... rockets and space craft. how long has that been a specialty? always... since he graduated. corporate attorney? yes. practice criminal law? no. would that influence you? no he wouldn't answer me. kids? 24, pet groomer, 27 at ucf. how long at employment? 16 years. management position? now I am, converted because girl before retired. ever settle disputes? no, there's only 3 of us.. were a family. organizations? involved in rescue groups, got out because I couldn't take more animals. do you know the other juror? I do not. 10:19:08 does anybody know any other jurors here? 10:19:15 military service? no. outside, I know. jury service? called 4 times... excluded from last one because of where I work. 10:19:41 b51.... how are you? good. Seminole? 9 years. originally? orange county. central Florida? since 1987. before? Atlanta. married? no. kids? no. grand kids? no. employment? retired. retired from what work? real estate.. several careers? I have. prior to that? director of call center. how long? 10 years. managerial duties? direct reports and 1200 employees. resolve disputes? often. how? listen to all sides and make tough calls. 10:21:11 member of any organizations? no. just enjoying retirement? yes. in military? I wasn't. for fun? driving back and forth to Jacksonville... elderly parents, lots of brothers and sisters. jury service? yes, one was in Seminole county 3 years ago... called case before we were called. another one in orange county in 1991, I was an alternate. 10:22:20 b86... how long a resident? 1989. before that? 1971 in orange county. marital status? single. kids? 2. 20 and 21... full time student and trying to get the other one back in school, he was ill. the one in school, what does he want to be? childhood specialist. how long in employment? 10 years. member in organizations? not any more, once at birds of prey... worked in church with youth group. in military? no. jury service? 10:24:24 e6.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange. how long? since 2004. originally? Brevard. marital status? married. what does spouse do? engineer. how long married? 6 years. kids? 2, 11 and 13. current occupation? unemployed. 9 months before that and prior to that I was in school and raising kids. what filed before? financial services. member in organization? member of church and I used to volunteer at kids school 10:25:44 military? no. how do you spend time outside of work? taking care of kids, dogs, helping with the friends young kids, gardening. prior jury service? no, called but never... 10:26:09 e40... Seminole county? 7 months. before that? Iowa. how long? 2 years. before that? California. come to Florida to retire? came to work in Florida. what do you do? safety officer. how long? over 25 years. marital status? married. spouse living? chemical engineer. kids? 1 son, 28 looking for work. prior to that? he was working in western Pennsylvania in fast food service. organization? no. military? no. fun? travel, read, and sports. any particular? all but football mainly. prior jury service? yes I have served. in Pennsylvania. criminal or civil? drug dealing 10:28:14 go back and deliberate? yes. reach verdict? we were. forewoman? I was not. enjoy experience? I did 10:28:30 e54... how long in Seminole? 14 years. before that? orange. since I was 8. marital status? married for 5 years. spouse? engineering technician. kids? two step children, 16 living with us and the other is late 20s. how long working there? 3 years. before that? same field for 30 years. member involved in organizations? no. military? no. fun? reading, working on family tree, playing golf. where's family from originally? Maryland 10:29:58 passions I guess? it was for a while, now that we finished it's on the side 10:30:09 jury service? summoned but never sat 10:30:18 e73... Seminole? 13 years. prior? new jersey. grow up there? I did not. grew up? new York. current address? 13 years. marital status? married. how long? 33 years. spouse? retired. prior to that? telecommunications firm. kids? yes. how many? 2. how old and what they do? 15 on Sunday, 18. still in school? going to college. what he wants to do? I don't think he's there yet 10:31:34 retired or working? consultant. how long? 10 years. before that? large telecommunications firm. where your husband worked? yes. meet there? we did. organizations? not currently. before? various arts councils. military? no. fun? going to sporting events, children active in sports... make jewelry, read, I love the beach 10:32:28 prior jury service? yes. here in Seminole? 3 times in Seminole, once for federal court and once in Ohio. served 5 times? yes. enjoy it? not always. Ohio, criminal or civil? civil I think. deliberate? settled out of court after 5 days. federal? criminal. deliberate? I didn't get seated on jury. three here, criminal or civil? first was civil and I didn't do anything. next was criminal settled out of court, next one I didn't get seated. 10:34:16 m75.... how long in Seminole? since 2001. before that? new York. grow up there? yes. lived in current address? 2 months. prior to that? still in Seminole, just different space. married or single? single. kids? no. work? 2 months. prior? travel agent for cruise. how long? 1 year. before that? theme parks in Orlando. how long? almost 2 years. what did you do? guest service attendant moved to cashier and food service. member of organization? not currently, used to volunteer at animal shelter. military? no. fun? large family, visit with them. military service? no 10:36:22 b61... how long in Seminole? 5 years. current address for? 4 years. prior? orange, Volusia, army brat. marital status? married. how long? 2 months. husband? full time student. engineer. kids? no. engineer too? yes. how long? 7 years. member of organizations? church, professional society, and sorority. leadership? I have, but not now. military? no. fun? studying, reading and spending time with family. studying to be? for an exam. prior jury service? no 10:38:00 b72.... how long resident? 9 years. originally? Chicago. marital status? single. kids? no. work? coming to a year. same field but different job? yes. involved in organizations? alumni of fraternity. leadership? vice president of local chapter but I wouldn't say so. military? no. fun? arm wrestling, going to gym.... one arm pull up. how long? 2.5 years. wrestling in high school? weight lift, track, football 2 years. meets to arm wrestle? depends on venue, encompasses everything... I could talk about it all day 10:40:00 prior jury service? no 10:40:05 e22... how long in Seminole? 12 years. prior? orange. grow in central Florida? only since 92. up north? spend a lot of time there. married? single. kids? no. work? 19 years. organizations? social service with employer. military? no. spend time out of work? gardening, all things food. passionate about? yeah. jury service? called in asocial but didn't serve 10:41:34 e13.... how long in Seminole? 17 years. marital status? single. kids? no. how long have you been doing that? surgical assistant for 2 years. member of organizations? church. military? no. outside work? horses. passion is riding? yes. jury service? no 10:42:33 e28.... how long Seminole? 1985. before that? Texas. originally from? yes. marital? married for 28 years, 2 children... 27 and 23 work for theme park and hotel side of it. spouse do? teacher. work? 26 years. members? professional, relay for life. how you spend time out of work? yes. jury? summoned for federal, never called and served in Texas... read verdict? yes. deliberate? yes. forewoman? no. enjoy that? yes I did 10:44:16 k80... Seminole county? 2004. before? Virginia. grew up there? most of life. marital status? 15 years... spouse? maintenance tech. kids? 2. two girls. under 18? yes. work? over 5 years, same line of work for 15 years. member of organizations? attend church regularly, girl scouts, soccer. military? family members, father was navy grandfathers and cousins. fun? work absorbs time and then children. jury service? no first time 10:45:49 k95... how long in Seminole? 16 years. before that? orange for 7 and manatee for 4. marital? married. 15 years. spouse? electrician. kids? yes. how old? daughter that's 24, son that'll be 14, and a grandson. daughter? internship to be a dental hygienist. work? consultant, used to own company for 7 years. same industry for 10 10:46:51 member of organizations? yeah, ptk. pbl. fbi. Alzheimer's association, autism speaks and march of dimes. military? no. jury service? no 10:47:22 p67... why we can't do this in private... is there a way? do in private with nobody else? approach bench? VOIR DIRE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC FORM. YOU CAN APPROACH. your name is private if that's what you're worried about. I just don't want the media to put labels on me like finding something else. JURY SELECTION PROCESS HAS TO BE OPEN COURT, OPEN TO PUBLIC...ZIMMERMAN HAS RIGHT TO BE THERE, ATTORNEYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE... REMOVE OTHER JURY MEMBERS, WILL NOT CLEAR THE COURT ROOM... MAYBE A QUESTION ASKED THAT IS SENSITIVE NATURE TO YOU THAT I CAN'T CLEAR THE COURT ROOM, BUT I CAN DO IT OUTSIDE PRESENCE OF OTHER MEMBERS. 10:49:51 from where? been here since 2008. Seminole county how long? since 2008. before that? moved from Chicago. before that, originally? Mexico. how long in US? since I was 18 years old. married? yes. how long? about 20 years. kids? yes. how old? 18, and 16 and 11. still in school? just out of high school. work for how long? since 2008. involved in organizations? church. military? no. fun? helping wife, kids and watching sports. first time in jury? yes. looking forward to it? looking to have a nice experience, but it's been a nightmare. every day something is different. if it's going to affect my family I'm not looking forward to it...still feel it's a hardship for you? absolutely 10:52:34 g14... how long in Seminole? once before and recently from 2005 to now. grew up and moved out? no dad in military. marital status? divorced. former spouse? does not work at this time. what did he do? assembly. kids? 2 boys. 12 and 15. work? 3 years. before? sold print advertising. how long? 1996 to 2010. involved in organizations? boy scouts. how long? 6 years. military service? I have not been, but family. spend time outside work? boy scouts, taking care of my boys and reading. jury? summoned 2 other times, but never seated on jury 10:54:22 g29... Seminole county? 9 months. before that? in orange county. marital? single. kids? no. work? almost 6 years. before that? same field for total over 14 years. member of organizations? no. military? no. fun? friends and family and sports and TV. jury service? summoned in orange but never on jury 10:55:33 g47.... how long in Seminole? under 9 years. before? Boston, MA. marital? single. kids? nope. current job, how long? since October. before that? unemployed. member with organization? no. military? none. fun? sports friends beer. jury service? once, but it was settled 10:56:24 g63..... how long in Seminole? 4 years. before? orange. martial? single. kids? no. unemployed now, before that? teaching assistant and student. major? mathematics. member of any organizations? no. military service? no. fun? chess, Olympic weightlifting, piano. how long Olympic? a year. jury? no 10:57:40 g66.... Seminole? 2 years. prior? 12 years in Madison. prior to that? Chicago. marital? widow. spouse? mechanic for trucks. kids? 2 daughters. oldest is 36 works for entertainment company. 32 year old works for entertainment lighting... how long you work? retired. prior? at hospitals. financial advisor. member of organizations? started riding with Care Takers... motorcycle club. military? no. outside work? ride with my boyfriend, fish, spend time with family. what does boyfriend do? he sails. jury service? once in Chicago... alternate 10:59:45 g81.... how long in Seminole? 16 years. marital status? married. how long? 19 years. spouse? administrative assistant. how long? 19 years. member in organizations? professional. military service? no. fun? golf, travel, sports. prior service? no. 11:00:37 h6... Seminole? 1.5 years. prior? orange and Colorado. in Florida? since 2004. married? no. kids? no. current job? 5 months. prior to that? same line of work, but in it for 7 years now. member involved in organizations? no. military service? no. fun? relax... jury service? yes. in Seminole or others? orange. 2 years ago. criminal case. deliberate? yes. verdict? on most charges. foreman? no 11:02:04 h7.... in Seminole? 27 years, before Illinois, before Texas. married 44 years. 2 children ones 41 in Ireland. 39 in el Paso. spouse? weight watchers councilor for 25 years takes care of house. job? 40 years. member of organizations? professional associations, boy scouts for 35 years, instructor for merit badges, wife and I will have a small nursery. prior jury service? 1 in Seminole criminal case, foreperson we reached a verdict. 11:03:30 h18.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange county for almost a year. overseas before? yes. how long? 1996. marital status? going through divorce. kids? 1. girl is 7. job? in that field since I got to Florida, before that......... overseas in military? army and then contractor for defense company...involved in any organizations? no. fun? gym, tennis, swimming, with my daughter. jury service? no 11:05:05 h29... resident of Seminole? over 30 years, and orange... army brat. marital status? divorced. spouse? school teacher. kids? yeah 2 daughters, 28 and 30 year old... working with UCF and the other is handicapped. work? 30 years. member? professional and served on local city board for 15 years... leadership? yes. military? I also served too. how long? 4 years. military police? no. fun? beach, tennis... beer. jury service? summoned once 15 years ago... never sat 11:07:11 h18... military police? no 11:07:17 h35... Seminole? 24 years. martial? married. how long? 5 years. spouse? unemployed. before? lawn service. kids? no. job? unemployed taking care of grandfather before. member of organizations? was in 2010. military? no. spend time for fun? beach. jury service? no 11:08:17 h81... how long in Seminole? since 2000. prior to that? Pennsylvania. marital status? 31 years. spouse? supervisor at hotel. kids? 25 year old daughter in marketing son in navy. work? 25 years. member of organizations? 1 professional. military? no. fun? family and discovering cool internet technologies. jury service? yes. in Seminole criminal case. verdict? yes. foreman? no 11:09:39 h69... resident of Seminole? 21 years. marital status? married. how long? 11 months. spouse? technician with bright house. work? a year and 8 months. before that in school? IRA company. member of any organizations? church, human resources. military? no. fun? usually with mom or dad. prior jury service? no. 11:10:43 h86.... Seminole? born and raised. married? no. kids? no. job? 6 months. before? technician. organizations? professional and church. military? no. fun? volunteer and with family. jury? summoned, but away for school 11:11:37 i5.... how long in Seminole? 13 years. before that? Alaska for 27 years. what were you doing? working, originally in military, 7 years and then discharged work for financial... married? yes. spouse? auditor. kids? yes. 3. what do they do? oldest son is 40 worked for grocery chain, out in California. daughter is 38 works for utility company and my youngest works for IT group. work? almost 40 years. member of any organizations outside? no all professional. military police? no. fun? watching sports on TV, hang with friends, I like working with computers..... jury service? yes. Seminole or elsewhere? 2 assignments here in Seminole and when I lived in Alaska I think I had 4. 2 here, deliberate? just 1. criminal or civil? DWI. we deliberated. verdict? yes. foreman? yes. 4 in Alaska and deliberate all of them? yes. criminal or civil? all civil. foreman on 1 of them. reach verdict on all 4? yes. enjoy experiences? looking back I did... when I was on it I didn't 11:14:48 i19.... resident in Seminole? 3 years. before? orange. marital status? single. kids? no. work? 1 year. before that? retail. organizations? no. military? no. fun? school. health service admin. jury? no 11:15:36 i24... how long in Seminole? 1968. marital status? married. shy of 39 years. spouse? he is a coordinator transportation for theme park. kids? 29 athletic trainer, 22 student, 29 installer. student, studying? psychology. work? just shy of 42 years. organizations? no. military? no. fun? sports work in yard, beach, hit the road and go to mountains. jury? summoned once but never had to 11:17:09 i33... resident in Seminole? 30 years. marital? married. spouse? account manager. kids? no. work? searching for new career. how long in field before? 44 years. member in organization? yes. what kind? environmental advocacy and county board. how long? just over a year. military service? no. fun? small farm and enjoy offshore competition fishing. jury service? no. 11:18:29 i44... resident in Seminole? 2 years but 25 in orange. marital status? married. spouse? RN. kids? 3, 10, 12, and 9 month son. work? 12 years. field? before that in theme park industry. involved in organizations? Florida barbecue association. military service? no. fun? family raising little one. jury service? 4 years ago orange I was alternate 11:20:17 15 MINUTE RECESS, FOLLOW JARVIS OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. ================================================================ 11:41:13 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. approach? YES (sidebar) 11:42:19 jurors are present 11:43:26 PLEASE BE SEATED... RIONDA YOU MAY CONTINUE 11:43:39 group questions... and then individual too... sit here today, give the defendant a fair trial? yes. give the state a fair trial? yes. give both sides fair? yes. issue? believe both sides do not deserve fair trial? defendant and stat fair trial? yes 11:44:32 state has to prove defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. it's the law. court will give you instructions. states burden, understand? yes. states prove crime was committed and defendant did it? yes. 11:45:18 read like what it is not... a reasonable doubt is not forced, imaginary, speculative... must have reason for that doubt. not to a mathematical certainty, not absolute? yes 11:46:11 believe the burden should be higher than reasonable doubt, like perfection? 11:46:34 sit here today, do you all understand concept/law talks about presumption of innocence. this defendant is presumed innocent, understand? yes. not innocent, but presumed innocent? yes. abide by that? yes. 11:47:23 live in greatest country of world and our criminal justice allows for a trial. no matter what the charge, state has burden. understand? yes. trial is the way? yes 11:47:56 defendant has no obligation? yes. how do you render a verdict? court will give instructions on how to do that. rely on facts and law and also in the process you use common sense in arriving in verdict. 11:48:45 law also says you don't speculate... not allowed in arriving in verdict. speculation plays no role, rely on evidence. agree? yes 11:49:14 what witness says is evidence, no the questions 11:49:51 difference between real world and TV world or make believe. 11:50:08 b35... if attorney asks question of witness and the witness says no, what do you believe? what witness said. is that important? yes. why? he's the witness.. he knows what's going on 11:50:58 sympathy plays no role at all in verdict, understand? yes. 11:51:22 understand that sympathy can't be consider at all, agree? yes 11:51:32 k80... agree with that? yes. why? based off facts and not emotion 11:52:05 bias shouldn't play a role at all in arriving in verdict.... g63, do you believe people are bias to certain things? yes. sometimes about people with bald heads or whatever, people has bias? yes. agree bias shouldn't play role at all? correct. biases about how people dress, should play role? no. why? not relevant to the facts that happened. do you think were always able to pick if someone is bias? not always. how can you tell? maybe if they... if they act in a way with specific preference for something more if they didn't have any advice. 11:53:57 penalties in this case, judges job what the penalties are. m75... problem with that? no. can't consider what the penalties are, no role? I understand. I agree. 11:54:49 job is only to defend guilt or innocence? yes. will anyone consider the penalties, you can't do that, agree? yes. 11:55:12 agree with that b37... I agree. why? falls in sympathy part. shouldn't play role at all? should not 11:55:59 state proves evidence, direct evidence... circumstantial evidence.... direct is someone sees something. circumstantial is added to other piece of puzzle to prove something. 11:56:25 law allows that the state can use direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. I come home and wife tells me kid brought cookie jar and the kids say they didn't do it... no eye witness, question kids... but one has crumbs in her mouth... that's an inference to prove something else 11:57:55 i44... ever used circumstantial evidence? all the time. at work or home? at home. give me an example? who made the mess, it wasn't us. who had breakfast, both of us. what did you have... oatmeal and there's oatmeal all over the counter. 11:58:47 I used to ask who watches CSI, now I ask reverse. who hasn't heard of CSI? b7 you have not watched CSI? no. anyone else who hasn't watched? b29, b35, b86, b61, b72, e28, k95, p67, h69, h86, h29. 12:01:01 not the real world... people want to believe that's real, they expect that evidence to appear out of nowhere... that's not the real world. hold state of Florida to what they've seen on csi? E6 HAS A QUESTION.... E6: going back to circumstantial evidences... circumstances can be misleading, so does it have to be very... still proven beyond unreasonable doubt. 12:02:38 never watched any of those shows? still have a few. b29... why? I like drama. real world as opposed to make believe? yeah 12:03:14 also had in last 5 or 10 years an increase in real lawyer type shows... not the real world? 12:03:43 i5... ever watch those shows? watched them don't make sense to me. some of them may be lawyers? question integrity of them... real lawyer wouldn't do that 12:04:17 not going to determine guilt or innocence from TV? yes. b61, agree with that? yes. if they're not representing client they don't know the facts, may have special interest. 12:05:35 how people feel about attorneys, how many of you liked their commercials... love those commercials??? hold against state of Florida or omara because were attorneys? anybody? 12:06:11 we realize people come into court room with opinions? yes. all come in with opinion on things, right? yes. if people are exposed to things, how do we make sure they make their decision on evidence opposed to what opinion should be. e73, what do we do with people whit opinions? that's a tough one cause I don't know that you'd always know about their opinion. e54, question? I don't know how you can guarantee that's not going to happen... you hope they don't. agree with e73 and e54? yes 12:08:18 h29... how would you assure opinions do not factor in the decision? profile a jury, ask questions look for answers that will represent you and people that are fair. no good way to do it. everyone agree? yes. telling the truth to best of ability.... 12:09:34 can you follow the law as a group? be frank with us.. does anybody feel they cannot? anybody? no from everyone? yes sir 12:10:02 h6... agree with that? yes. how would you assure that it doesn't interfere? don't know how you find out how, but keep my opinion out of it 12:10:44 both sides get fair trial 12:11:08 b67.... too personal or it's alright? it's alright. g14? agree that sometimes we make assumptions that turn out not to be true? yes. ever done that? yes. example? meet somebody and think they're stuck up and then I would find out later they were shy. agree with g14? yes. has anyone ever been wrong about an assumption? 12:12:58 assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes sir 12:13:22 opinions and assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes 12:13:30 how do we know that happens? e40, how? check our personal values and hold others accountable and challenge if we see those bias. discrepancies raise an issue 12:14:13 attorneys, who knows any attorney? b12? yes. are they here in town? Tim Morgan. what practice? friend of his. talk to him about law? no. b76? my son. asked you that before? yes. b35? friend from hometown and friends I went to college with. civil or criminal? split. discuss law? no sir... b37? married to attorney, anybody else? attorneys from work that work on cases like personal injuries. criminal or civic? not that I'm aware of. interfere in any way? no sir. b51? neighbor. corporate lawyer... 12:17:03 e6? I know a woman in Colorado in contract law... e40? several from college, woman I rent house from is in real estate law and she's in Texas. e54? I do know people who are attorneys but I don't discuss with them. 12:17:53 e73? friends and family. criminal law? no 12:18:05 g47? friends' mother for Volusia. civil law. interfere? no. g14? I know a couple attorneys through boy scout, but I don't know criminal. no interference no. 12:18:59 k95? several from network associations, patent, tax and contract. no criminal? not that I know of. interference? no sir 12:19:23 k80? friends and legal counsel at our company. criminal? no. interference? no 12:19:43 e13? moms side of families, some attorneys? criminal? I have no idea.. influence? no 12:20:04 e22? three attorneys, all civil. interfere? no 12:20:14 b61? several from college, all civil and no interference 12:20:28 h6? know an attorney that does workers comp law. interfere? no 12:20:43 h7? department of defense, contract lawyers. nephew in environmentalism 12:20:50 h29? several from my profession. interfere? no 12:21:09 h81? I know 20-25 attorneys. criminal? a handful. discussions about the law? most involved around consumer law. interfere as juror? that wouldn't influence me 12:21:56 h86? past employers were attorneys... insight into law? no 12:22:09 i33? several lawyers both civil and criminal. interfere with decision? no. 12:22:40 anybody associated with law, judges? i33? I know a few sir... 12:23:01 interfere in any way to be a juror? no. 12:23:14 personal questions about arrest, victim of crime, if it's something you want in private let us know. need to know impact it may have. 12:24:02 front row, arrested? b12, here in Seminole? Daytona. still pending? no thrown out of court, never went. would that experience factor in to be fair juror? no. set aside? I was only 17 so yeah. feel you were treated fairly? for who I was with... hold against Florida? no. hold against Zimmerman? no. 12:25:07 b29? Chicago. still pending? it's been disposed of? yeah. interfere with you? no. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes. 12:25:36 b35? orange county. still pending? no. disposed of? yes. how long ago? 1987. unfairly treated? no. prosecuted or case dismissed? I was prosecuted. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes 12:26:24 e6? in Florida, Brevard back in 1999. pending? no. treated fairly. 12:27:13 h7? 40 years ago state of Texas. not pending? correct. treated fairly? absolutely. it was acquitted. hold against? no 12:28:04 h81? Seminole. pending? no. how long ago? yr. and a half ago. treated fairly? yes. no charges it was detained.. no charges. hold against? no 12:28:55 i33? Seminole. pending? no. treated unfairly? yes. arrested or prosecuted? both. won't hold it against anybody. what happened to your case? go to court, pay a fine. won't hold against? no sir. 12:30:00 anybody been a subject of criminal investigation? no from everybody 12:30:14 close friend arrested and you felt was treated unfairly? b7? family or close friend? close friend. pending? no. orange county. arrested unfairly. dropped? I don't know. hold against? no. 12:31:13 k95? friend in Ohio arrested and treated unfairly. pending? no. when she was incarcerated. drop charges on her? no. told by the judge she could take medicine and they didn't give to her, brought her to hospital 12:32:28 b61? someone was arrested, treated unfairly. charges were dropped. here in Florida? yes. pending? no. hold against? no. 12:33:06 A LOT OF YOU HERE.... AN HOUR ENOUGH? COME BACK AT 1:45. WHILE ON LUNCH BREAK, GO WITH EACH OTHER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THIS CASE. NO RADIO OR TV REPORTS. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES. ASSURANCE TO ABIDE BY INSTRUCTIONS? 12:34:23 COURT IN RECESS FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:45 ================================================ 13:46:07 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. DO WE HAVE THE JURORS BACK? COUNCIL APPROACH FOR JUST A MOMENT (sidebar) 14:02:46 PLEASE BE SEATED. WELCOME BACK. APPEARS TO BE HERE AND IN CORRECT PLACES. DURING LUNCH DID ANY OF YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? DID ANY OF YOU READ OR LISTEN TO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE? USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE ABOUT THE CASE? READ OR CREATE ANY THING ABOUT THE CASE? 14:03:39 rionda: welcome back. 14:04:05 h81... a friend or close family member? close friend. in Seminole? no. Pennsylvania. treated unfairly? yes. in prosecution. hold against us? I would no. interfere? it would not. 14:05:05 were you a victim of a crime that it impacted you so much you wouldn't be able to participate? 14:05:26 b76? yes. b7? yes. b86? yes. anybody else? e40? e73? second row: e22? k80? k95? last row: g81? h7? h35? h81? i33? i44? did I get everybody? 14:06:35 violent crime? e73, b86, k80, e22. 14:07:09 you have to set it aside for the purposes of this trial. agree to leave outside court room... think you cannot, raise your hand... e73? just because of the nature that happened to you? it was a very similar crime. wouldn't be able to.... set it aside? it's always in my mind. 14:08:27 anybody else? 14:08:49 victims of crime, let me broaden criteria... crime to your household, felt police did not do a good job investigating? b7. home break in. here in Seminole? it was. they didn't do a good job? they didn't investigate at all. do you think that would impact you at all in this case to sit as juror or can you set aside? no. it wasn't a big deal. agree to leave outside court? yeah. 14:10:17 in that case, were you present? I came home and scared of burglars I think. chase them? no. knew better? I didn't realize until later.... called police and they didn't respond? when I was in high school, police came and they asked what was stolen and officer asked me if any of my friends did this. ever find out who it was? no. anybody else? 14:11:31 b86... many years ago, fast food restaurant. police officer scared us more than the person who just robbed us with the gun. going to our car when gun was pulled on us, we ran back into the restaurant after guy grabbed a bag... police knocked on door and we thought it was the guy again. make him go around so we can see him. tell us you're a police officer, he said "this isn't TV". hold against? no. know who was arrested? yes. he hit us twice, finally got caught. testify? no I couldn't pick him out. 14:13:33 does anybody live in community in which there is no crime? anybody? collective no. 14:14:02 steps to address it in your neighborhood? e54... I assume there's crime in my neighborhood, not personally aware of it. 14:14:42 k95... I would put up a no soliciting sign in my neighborhood. effective? yes. anything further? no. there's a neighborhood watch. are you a part of it? no. 14:15:12 e73... we had a sudden increase in crime in neighborhood. they started a watch. join it? no, but went to a meeting. set up in uniform? no. armed? I don't think so. not involved in watch? no 14:15:54 anybody else? b76... just had teens vandalizing signs... police took care of it. we had a watch I just told them about it. any steps yourself to get involved? telling the other neighbors 14:16:30 b35...still with us... closing your eyes just want to make sure 14:16:51 b7: what was the question again. crime in community and you got involved? no. 14:17:26 feel like people have the right to take law into their own hands? anybody? i5 shaking your head.... there may be occasions, but basically I would say no. g63... crimes in neighborhood? I'm assuming? watch in your community? not that I'm aware of. your last question was very general we have governments that we authorize to do that. 14:19:17 as individuals people shouldn't. g7, agree? where is the process or a citizen's arrest. I don't know how it applies. 14:19:45 other than what law allows, try to arrest people on your own? never have. i24, ever crossed your mind to arrest someone? no but I would do something if they tried to break into my house. id protect my family 14:20:34 can everybody agree the law applies equally to everyone? yes. it should or it doesn't? 14:20:54 b7.... hear a lot about it in the news. always believe? not always. 14:21:13 law matter about which part of county? no. difference in wealth class? no. matter if gated or not? no. where they're from? no. b72, it shouldn't matter? no. why not? when you see the law, the law applies to everyone it doesn't discriminate or consider race or sex. if we use this as criteria, the whole system goes down. 14:22:26 should it matter about race gender or ethnicity? no. 14:22:53 ever been a witness and testify? g81... was it here in Seminole? no. orange. proceeding or hearing or trial? it was juvenile system, proceeding. testify? yes. treated fairly by lawyers and judge and deputies? yes I was. anything about that you felt would interfere? nothing that happened there 14:23:56 h7: I've given depositions before. was it unpleasant it would influence you? no it was not. representation from both sides and told them what I knew. told the truth as best you could remember? yes 14:25:03 h29... I've been deposed before. anything about that experience? I was on the good guy side, never got to the other side. 14:25:23 h81... deposition, hearing, trial? I've been a witness a few times... treated unfairly? no. 14:26:00 i24... I was a witness in a car accident. eye witness? yeah and we had to verify who hit who. more than one? several people. all have to come to court? no we all went to court and stood in front of judge and told her what we saw. questioning you? just the judge... 14:27:00 g63... witness for criminal trial in orange county. eye witness? I was an eye witness to nothing. still called? yes. badgered in any way by either side? no. it wasn't unpleasant it was inconvenient. impact you? no 14:27:48 k80.... witness in child custody case. in front of court? no jury, just a judge. treated fairly? yes, no badgering.. civil questions. 14:28:22 k95... federal lawsuit case, it wasn't a good experience. because of way you were treated? yes. by who? attorneys and judge. judge nelson? no. it wasn't in this state. attorneys were asking improper questions? I was told I was at an economic disadvantage. scream back at them? kept my cool and had to pay it off. terrible experience? yes. hold against? no this was business 14:29:50 e22... I've been deposed. treated fairly? yes. deposition end there or another proceeding? never went to trial. that experience that you were treated unfairly? no. 14:30:30 e6... custody trial and domestic violence... nothing about the proceedings. treated fairly? yes. impact? no. e40... witness to car accident, no jury... I was treated fairly. other people eye witness too. there when other witnesses testified? I was around... 20 years ago though. 14:31:40 all read the witness list... cover that. how you know the person and the impact of that.... 14:32:16 e6... SHES IN SEAT NUMBER 9, GIVE HER LIST. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. recognize that as yours? yes. circled two names on front page. one of them starts with d and j... professional or social? I recognize the name I don't personally know them. recognize them as physician. impact you? no it would not. also have under that name, three down from that. know the name? I don't know them personally, received referral to her for one of my children. impact? no. some on last page... last name with w recognize name or the person? just the name. impact? no. third from bottom starts with z and s? know them? no. recognize name? yes. impact? no. 14:35:16 i33.... first page, last name starts with b and first name is c. know them or recognize name? right, could be somebody that I name... I have no idea if I know them or not. assuming it's the same person you know, what do they do for a living? construction business. person you know is him? correct. with the work you do? yes. if he testified, find him more credible? no sir, not necessarily no. if it's the same person could you rely just on what they said as opposed to knowing them? absolutely. another name with a c and a b? correct. recognize? just heard the name. no impact on you? no sir. first person/ another relationship, fun thing and I see him once a year... fun thing, activity? yeah it would ID me. you interact with him though? yes sir 14:38:23 last page, last name w and n? yes. recognize or personal? recognize name. know them other than that? no. 14:38:45 toward bottom of page, z and s? recognize the name. impact? no sir 14:39:22 juror number.... second page j and c... know them? as a celebrity... not the person that were talking about here. ok? and someone else.... last page last name with w and d? how do you know them? name I think I recognize. impact? no. 14:40:29 b61.... last page, at top? yes. personal or professional? if same person it's personal but haven't seen them in 2-3 years. friends? yes. exercise together. hear them on witness stand find them more or less credible? it wouldn't impact if it were any other witness. how close, how much interaction? person in social organization, saw her a lot for a while. over a yr. or two? a couple years while I was in school. is this person still a member of that organization? yes. impact you? no 14:42:49 hear from witness, evaluate based on insurrections from court? yes. g47, depend if witness has job? no. why? irrelevant to the case. g29 does it matter if they're law enforcement? no. everyone agree? yes 14:43:37 e54 agree with that? sure 14:43:41 law allows for certain witnesses to be treated differently, experts can give opinion opposed to other witnesses. e13... agree with that? yes would say.. e28 agree? yes. why? they're experts in that field. evaluate and use instructions from court and the expertise? yes 14:44:43 b51.... agree with that? I do. why? education or experience and wouldn't call on them to discuss position or opinion without experience. ever had to rely on expert testimony? not testimony. go to expert for advice? no. anybody? b7.... rely on experts on constant basis 14:45:41 b35... agree? yes. why? practice in their field. b76 agree? yes. b12... agree? yes. why? education and school and have knowledge of that. H69 HAS QUESTIONS. h69: if attorney asked for opinion and they didn't just interject it? yes. that they asked for opinion and they didn't just interject opinion. if attorneys ask expert could you rely on his opinion? yes. why? I'm going to assume a witness researches before getting on the stand... rely on expert if both side find them to be an expert 14:47:55 in this type of case, since the trial is murder.... H86... also wondering if witness on stand only giving facts or opinions unless were asking for their opinion? right... e6... clarify to me I would believe an expert has studied and accumulated knowledge in area, but sometimes experts don't always agree even if in the same field, how is that treated? use your common sense and if it's credible. judge will give instructions about that. expert can give opinion. you can find an opinion with the one you wanted... You decide... 14:50:21 juror number..... person is an expert and we assume they are.. court will give you a ruling on that. expert is entitled to give opinion. if a juror finds a person is qualified as expert they don't have to accept that opinion. you would hear their qualifications and make that determination. 14:51:44 exposed to photos you've never been exposed to, problem looking at photos? does everyone understand the question? ok? yes 14:52:29 b37 you're fine with that... yes. b35.. yes 14:52:39 everyone else agree? yes 14:52:44 law enforcement experience? nobody. h86? not myself, but two aunts and uncles who are lieutenants. 14:53:19 h86, family in law enforcement? yes. departments here in Seminole? I believe it's orange. discuss matters with them about justice system? in the past I have. impact your decision? no. how extensive, more than 1? 3 family members. close with them? 2 of them. interact on weekly basis? yes. uniform? yes. how long in field? over 20 years. look up to them for advice? in general, yes. pursue law enforcement career? no. 14:54:37 k95... when you say law enforcement, but 40 years ago I worked in retail where I used to watch shop lifters... watched them and recorded them. apprehend them? no. I just do my job and report to manager.... someone else would apprehend? yes. successful? yes. how? bust a lot of my sisters friends. 14:55:50 anybody else I overlooked... i24? sort of in same situation... I didn't catch them. I did translation when they did get caught and they didn't speak English. for a company who had a lot of guests who got caught shop lifting. what language? Portuguese. several years? quite a lot. enjoy it? yes. anything that would interfere? no. k95... anything that would interfere? no 14:57:01 anybody else? k80.... family members. tell me? uncle who was in SWAT and cousin is NCIS agent. occasions to discuss with them? no. there are stories after the fact. interfere? no 14:57:42 b35.... family members mom worked for sheriff's department and cousins in police in Titusville. see them regularly? once or twice a year. discussions about job? 14:58:14 how come you didn't join department? first not to go into law enforcement because I went to school. not exciting enough? make a little more money and wanted to do my own thing. impact you one way or another? no. more incline to favor police officer? no 14:59:05 b7.... law enforcement, my wife used to work in the field, often had discussions about it. her job and dealing with victims? absolutely. how do you feel about that, would it impact you here? no. it was a while ago. in this case you have a victim, favor state in this case? no. wouldn't impact you? not when I last served on jury 15:00:13 b86... I used to do transcription for private investigator... a while ago? 15 yes ago in orange. former officer? yeah. record and you would transcribe? yes. impact favoring? no. 15:00:54 e6... include close friends? anybody important for us to know about.... family friend he was SWAT detective... he just left the force and went into private sector but served almost 17 years... impact your opinion? no 15:01:41 b12.... my dad was a Syracuse cop and my nephew is FBI agent. anything about nature of that would favor one side? no. 15:02:36 h69... any family member? yeah. cousin who works for government.... she's working with homeland security... opportunities to discuss her job? some times. anything about what she does you feel would impact you one way or another? no. desire to join her? it sounds exciting, but not for me 15:03:34 k95.... family or friends? yes someone important to let us know. acquaintances from homeland security and friend that is head of security. discuss criminal matters? no. the law? no. 15:04:14 k80.... friends? some close to you. neighbors son in law is US Marshall... and another Seminole county deputy and then another one and family friend have deputies at jail... discussions with them? no. interfere? no 15:05:02 e22.... close friend who was in law enforcement for 2 decades... discussions? interfere? no. 15:05:27 g66... my brother in law retired from police enforce, my niece is.... discuss matters? about what they do. desire to join? when I was younger. impact you? no 15:06:05 H7 HAS HAND UP... h7: friends through boy scouts. never discussed outside of scouts. no impact one way or another 15:06:29 i19... my uncle is police officer. still? yes. local? somewhere else. impact you? no. 15:06:57 i24... husband's niece is married to gentleman in fbi. anything about that? no. 15:07:19 i33... my wife's father is retired sheriff. no impact. in this county? different state. impact you? no 15:07:44 anybody in this room that has not had a dispute with another person? anybody? physical dispute? b35... verbal to physical. a long time ago? yeah. resolve it between you two? once or twice police were called. impact you? no sir 15:08:34 anybody else? e6... I was involved in domestic violence. impact? no. b7? fight in middle school... (Everyone laughs) I think I lost. any impact? no 15:09:33 k95... just domestic. impact you? no. 15:09:45 disputes where you worked it out? everyone? b61 have you? yes. how? talk about it. 15:10:19 g66? dispute where you resolved? yes. without violence? yes. talking loud walking away 15:10:34 medical experience, in the field one way or another? g47....registered EMT. impact? not that I'm aware of. k95... CNA and activity director. anyone else? e40... certified health care officer. b12.... 15:11:42 e28.... medical. h86? home health CNA before RN. 15:12:07 other than b72... fitness people? h18... work out all the time? lifting every morning, play tennis... e13.... weight lift and run and go to gym. b72... wrestling, anybody else wrestle? boxing? h29... trying to get more George Forman on.... in the military. how well? middle levels before someone was young. I remember 5, 6.... (everyone's laughing) 15:13:46 anybody else? g63... weight lifting? yes. training for sport. endurance type thing? weight lifting. for a year? yes. 15:14:09 h18... boxing? martial arts since I was a kid. 15:14:36 involved in martial arts? yes. green belt. b86.... tae-kwon-do with my kids... couple years senior blue belt. 15:15:16 training in phonetics? linguistics? I did sign language many years ago. (juror number) 15:15:41 e13... four years of sign language 15:15:49 live in gated community? g63... 4 years ago community had security guard in its entrance. i19, h86, h81.... 15:16:28 live in neighborhood with a watch? b7... seen the signs, but I'm... b35? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e73? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e22 watch? sign but I don't know who's on it? involved? no. k80? watch? yes. involved? no and my husband is block captain but I don't know what he does. k95? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. (two more jurors... not involved) 15:18:32 g63... not where I live but before, I don't know who was involved. 15:18:45 last row: h18? involved? no. h29... we have signs. involved? no. I know some ladies who are. 15:19:18 anybody consider expert in DNA? no from everybody 15:19:51 who does not have a cell phone? everyone has one. anyone an expert on cell phones? i44... working knowledge of that.... 15:20:27 expert someone beyond being able to turn it on. (juror number): I am... witness? no. records of calls?. anyone else. b7? same circumstance. e73? same responses. g47: I consider myself tech savvy. k95: I have a lot of jobs, work in IT. 15:21:53 agree people dress differently? way they dress does it matter? no. 15:22:22 assume certain things based on attire? e6... lots of different things. woman dressed or wearing expensive things....rich? either that or give that appearance. if they're not, they're poor? could mean many different things. known wealthy man who preferred to dress down. we make assumptions 15:23:30 in terms of law, what does it say about assumptions? they don't count. 15:24:04 this case the victim, martin and defendant are different race, does it matter? no. h35... does it matter? absolutely not. that doesn't matter ever anywhere.... everyone agree? yes 15:24:35 victim as court read was under 18... O'Mara: approach? YES (sidebar) 15:27:49 IS EVERYONE OK TO GO ON? GO AHEAD 15:27:58 rionda: victim was under 18, does anyone believe his life is worth less because he was a minor? no. black African America, worth less? no 15:28:37 believe in right to bear arms? yes 15:28:41 who has a firearm or access to one? b35... personally own? yes. more than one? yes. target practice and hunting. what kind? caliber and shot gun. proficient? yes train in military. how often? a couple months. holster? yes. more than one? yes. internal or external? external. concealed permit? yes. 15:29:54 b76... I don't have any in our home, but we have family members that do in their own home. any experience yourself? no 15:30:12 b37.... used to have concealed weapons permit. husband wanted me to renew but I don't have a gun... no point. I can shoot a gun. we used to go out to range and shooting. basic familiarity with it 15:30:49 e6... husband has 9 millimeter, .38 and rifles... my son has a hunting rifle and bb guns. you yourself involved in firing? went to range one time and sometimes target practice with bb guns 15:31:27 e40.. brother in law has hunting rifles 15:31:38 b12.... fired a gun one time in my life and fell on my but, my son has gun and my mom and sister 15:31:57 m75.... my brother in law has 2 guns, a .38 and another handgun. shooting with him? no... goes with my sister and daughter 15:32:25 b61 repeat? do you have a firearm or have access to one. 15:32:37 ever fired a gun... recreational... 15:32:49 b7 my father has some. 15:33:03 e22... good friend has a firearm 15:33:09 e13... my step dad has a few, went and fired once 15:33:20 b86.... fired one once 15:33:43 k80.... yes own firearms... fired before? yes. familiar. own one yourself and carry with holster? no. no concealed weapons 15:34:10 k95.... I do and my son does. 15:34:17 p67... no I don't 15:34:25 g66... yes I have a .32. fire on occasion? periodically. holster? no 15:34:46 i44... hand gun. fire yourself? yes 15:35:00 i33... rifles. shooting purposes? hunting 15:35:16 i24.... handguns. revolver? yes 15:35:26 i19.... my father has them for hunting.. shoot yourself? no 15:35:38 h86... my brother in law has several. shot yourself? yes. handgun and a rifle. know the difference between semi-automatic and revolver? yes 15:36:07 h81... go to range, but don't shoot my own guns 15:36:22 (juror number) .. mom has one 15:36:29 h29...... I have daughters, so I have shot guns.... revolver and rifle 15:36:48 h18... I do. 15:36:57 h7... yes I do. member of nra? yes. anybody else? no 15:37:08 h6... father owns numerous guns and I've gone with him to the range 15:37:34 have guns or are familiar, responsibility with having one? yes. believe than h7? absolutely. everyone agree with him? yes 15:37:55 agree with that i44? yes. 15:38:01 anybody not agree? everyone agrees 15:38:12 defendant charged with murder in second degree, haven't heard evidence I don't want opinion, but can you follow a law...state has to prove victim is dead, the death was caused by criminal act of Zimmerman, and unlawful killing of martin by an act dangerous to another in a depraved mind without regard to human life.... act includes series of related to.... immanently dangerous to a deprived mind if an act that a person of ordinary judgment was known to seriously kill or done from ill will or of such nature it indicates indifferent to human life... follow that? yes. 15:40:11 not necessary for state to prove intent... 15:40:28 doesn't require certain number of shots or motive 15:40:46 understand there can be defenses to crimes, understand? yes 15:41:10 insanity or self-defense... justifiable use of deadly force...follow instruction about that? yes. 15:41:38 last week and this week about media and publicity and hardship... most of you heard that both sides expect trial to last 2-4 weeks....jury will be sequestered... family member p67... letter that it would be hardship. in addition to what you said? yes. anybody else in that predicament? b61: can you explain sequestered 15:43:42 housed together, but interaction with others will be limited.... won't be able to go home at night. contact with outside world limited. have some contact, court will give instructions about that... monitored contact. 15:45:36 b7... first time I heard about it.... I have questions that are.... 15:45:48 e6... I didn't realize, does that include weekends... YES ENTIRE TIME OF TRIAL. ok.... 15:46:11 b37: you have some contact with family. ALL THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED LATER, WILL HAVE CONTACT BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED.. WILL HAVE CONTACT 15:46:37 b6... include telephone calls can they visit? ALLOWED TO VISIT, LIMITED AS TO TIME...LIMITED PHONE CONTACT... emails? YES IT WILL BE LIMITED. YOU WON'T BE CUT OFF FROM FAMILY, STAYING IN A FACILITY, HOTEL IN THE AREA AND ALL MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED AND TRANSPORTATION AND PERSON NEEDS DURING THE TRIAL. 15:47:38 k80: if this group is sequestered where we can't return to our homes, will this case be 7 days a week? NO. so everyone gets to go home on weekends but we can't? CORRECT. PLANNED ACTIVITIES FOR YOU, THERE WILL BE MEALS... I MEAN ITS... MORE WILL BE EXPLAINED 15:48:29 rionda: attorneys and court will be busy with other matters, were not going on vacation for the weekend 15:49:01 can all of you agree since you haven't heard evidence you have to keep open mind? yes. understand that part of process is that decision needs to be unanimous? yes. 15:49:31 haven't heard evidence, presuming defendant innocent? yes. use common sense and evidence for decision? yes. could you convict him if evidence showed he was guilty? yes. and opposite? yes 15:50:11 people should be held responsible and accountable for actions? yes. picked as juror and evaluating evidence, use god given common sense to get verdict that speaks the truth? yes. 15:50:40 I'm going to sit down.... but before I do... any matter that you think you need to bring to my attention? collective no. thank you very much 15:51:16 15 MINUTE... O'Mara: approach. YES (sidebar) 15:56:15 how long will we have to get our stuff in order... I WILL TELL YOU WHEN SELECTED ON JURY 15:56:34 b61: questionnaire did that say anything about sequestering. YES IT DID... ITS NOT AS LONG AS INDICATED 15:57:04 ITS BEEN A LONG DAY AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE O'MARA BEGIN VOIR DIRE AND KEEP YOU LATE AND HAVE SPLIT IT UP... RELEASE FOR THE NIGHT. COME BACK AT 9 AM. NOT TO READ OR LISTEN TO RADIO OR TV REPORTS, NOT TO DISCUSS CASE. NOT TO USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO GET ON INTERNET. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES ABOUT CASE. ASSURANCE YOU WILL ABIDE? yes. ANY ISSUE... PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. P67...INDICATED MAYBE HAVING THINGS TO DISCUSS, PLEASE REMAIN AND WILL DISCUSS AFTER THAT. EVERYONE ELSE AT A QUARTER TO 9 AM. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 15:59:54 COMFORTABLE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. 16:00:01 rionda: P67 letter from a family member? my wife wrote about it. trouble to serve? yes. tell us more? don't tell us where you work, but the media has rights to be present. work related? yes. express in letter? yes. wife wrote letter because she's more fluent in English? yes. had her write it because she could say it better? part for her and part for me she's worried about the situation. create hardship with wife and monetary? yes. like lately my little one I don't know what she heard in the news, lately she's been living with me thinking somebody is going to get me. also nice to discover how much she loves me 16:02:28 would that in your opinion impact you to pay attention? yes. of course. anything else you want to say to judge about that? that's all. just about my family. oh the other thing, the leveling or title... been things in media that my wife and older kids.. for example: media ask a resident or citizen or Hispanic, but then don't like how media express or a nickname all over the internet. media put your name on the internet or a certain way? yes. how did you find out? my wife found out through internet and my two biggest ones. they wanted to know what's going on with dad. your wife and kids saw on internet and alerted you and you said you didn't want to talk about it? yeah. impact on your kid and wife? yes. concern about that as a result? yes. interfere with paying attention? yes. 16:05:02 O'Mara: minor concerns and I want to see if they stack... media? yes. media in court room prohibited from putting you on camera... I am, but you are not... they can't put your face or information... not public, understand that? yes sir. concern to be they have identified you by some descriptors, like a white female whatever... and you they described as well? yes. concerned by a term the way the described you? I prefer they call me a resident or citizen or Hispanic. the other one telling my kids or wife..... something else on the internet? told me they saw "Mexican". concern to be Mexican than resident? yes. 16:07:22 sounds like they were labeling you? yes which I'm not happy about.... I represent the system, we apologize about any insensitivity from the media... as juror you're being exposed to that in a profile case its unavoidable... not sure we can un-do that.... maybe media will learn lesson to be culturally sensitive. 16:08:17 30 days your employer doesn't need to pay you? that's a part of it 16:08:28 about the service and the jury I noticed a couple things, seemed to me you were looking forward to it as a citizen, feel that way still? yes, but if it takes this long... issues. I was thinking 2-3 weeks, yeah let's get it done... without guessing too much we may start Monday.... last 2-4 weeks and then you deliberate and we'd be done.... timeline put out there now.... 16:09:38 mention that because of the publicity, your little ones was wrapping arms around your leg... a loss for you and family temporarily if here with us... such imposition that it is insurmountable, you can't do it for destroying purposes? my family will be destroyed. if not to that level... hoping you would consider it... inconvenient for you, accomplish if we ask you to, 2-4 weeks? definite inconvenience. not trying to minimize that, but as citizens as we take on the role of doing everything, there's not much more asked of our citizens but war and ask them to serve on jurors... 16:12:04 if we ask you, is it something that you can accomplish even past its inconvenience? 16:12:34 judge will clear up the confusion, but in sequestration being with us you will have contact with family, telephone monitored, visits with family members monitored... not in prison but in situation where you maintain contact but supervised way to protect process...any questions that I can help answer for you to make decision to sit as juror 16:13:54 I just want to you to consider my situation. if pick you can you sit with us? if that's the only option I guess... well you can say no, but if it's an inconvenience, say yes... if it's because of destruction than you can't.... call is yours. if you can under what we talked about.... I just can't with consequences coming if over 4 weeks. I don't want to end up on the street. if I was single, it wouldn't be a problem. 16:15:09 rionda: the media itself or the internet with comments? they saw on internet, I don't know where.... EXCUSED FOR EVENING, SEE YOU TOMORROW IN THE MORNING. 16:15:44 PLEASE BE SEATED, COUNCIL COME TO BENCH..(sidebar) 16:16:22 COURT RECESS FOR THE DAY ====================================
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL POOL 061913 P1
INT BROLL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRAYVON MARTIN TRIAL / SWITCHED POOL FEED **NOTE: JUDGE'S COMMENTS IN CAPS **NAMES OF WITNESSES IN RED **VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS IN (PARENTHESES) **GOOD STATEMENTS/VIDEO BOLD 8:58:37 (Zimmerman enters, tan suit blue shirt and brown tie) (court rearranged differently) 9:00:12 PLEASE BE SEATED, GOOD MORNING. ON THE RECORD. ONE JUROR IS A FEW MINUTES LATE, WAIT FOR THEM. COUNCIL APPROACH FOR ONE MOMENT 9:00:59 (sidebar) 9:09:51 RECESS UNTIL THE POTENTIAL JURORS GET HERE 9:10:08 COURT IN RECESS ============================ 9:27:02 ATTORNEYS REQUEST THE FRYE HEARING BE TOMORROW AT 2. (sidebar) 9:31:03 deputy: jurors are present 9:32:36 PLEASE BE SEATED. GOOD MORNING... BEGIN WHATS REALLY THE JURY SELECTION, BEFORE WAS PRE SELECTION PROCESS... INSTRUCTIONS: IN ORDER TO HAVE FAIR TRIAL, RULES JURY MUST FOLLOW. MUST DECIDE CASE ON EVIDENCE IN COURT. DON'T COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CASE. DO NOT DISCLOSE YOUR THOUGHTS OR ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO DECIDE. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES OR COMMUTERS TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS CASE. DO NOT SEND OR ACCEPT MESSAGES ABOUT THIS CASE. MUST NOT DO RESEARCH THAT MAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CASE. APPLIES IN COURT HOUSE, SEQUESTRATION, OR ANY WHERE ELSE. DEPENDING ON YOU TO FOLLOW RULES FOR A FAIR TRIAL. INVESTIGATE OR RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, NO WAY TO ASSURE THEY ARE PROPER OR RELEVANT TO CASE. NO OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE EVIDENCE. BECOME AWARE OF VIOLATIONS OF INSTRUCTIONS, MUST TELL ME BY NOTE FROM COURT DEPUTY. 9:35:40 GOING TO BEGIN JURY SELECTION PROCESS, KNOWN AS VOIR DIRE. PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE IF THE DECISION WOULD BE FAIR BASED ON EVIDENCE WITHOUT INFLUENCE FROM OUTSIDE FACTORS. NOT FOR PURPOSE OF PRYING INTO AFFAIRS... 9:36:27 CHARGES SET FORTH FOR ZIMMERMAN.... EVERY PERSON ACCUSED IS TO KNOW THE EXACT CHARGE. STATE OF FLORIDA VS. ZIMEMRMAN 12CF10838A COUNT 1 MURDER IN SECOND DEGREE. ON FEB. 26, 2012 ZIMMERMAN UNLAWFULLY KILLED MARTIN UNDER THE AGE OF 18, SHOOTING VICTIM. ZIMMERMAN CARRIED DISPLAYED USED ATTEMPT TO USE FIREARM. AS RESULT OF DEATH, INFLICTED UPON ANY PERSON.......... 9:38:13 INTRODUCED TO PARTICIPANTS OF THIS TRIAL. ARE ANY OF YOU RELATED TO ATTORNEYS OR ZIMMERMAN? NO HANDS ARE BEING RAISED 9:38:37 HANDED A LIST OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES IN THE CASE. IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY NAMES PLEASE CIRCLE THEM. MANY MORE NAMES LISTED THAN ACTUALLY CALLED... REVIEW THAT. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY INDIVIDUALS... ASK YOU TO TELL US WHAT PAGE AND WHAT NUMBER THEY ARE OR THEIR INITIALS. DONE READING, PLEASE LOOK UP. 9:46:19 SHOW OF HANDS BY FIRST ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE WITNESS NAMES? 9:46:46 (couldn't hear the juror number) ANYONE ON FRONT PAGE YOU RECOGNIZE? first page. HOW MANY? 2. they're both d's. FIRST NAME? j and d. first and fourth d. ATTORNEYS WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST? no. 9:48:06 SECOND ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE NAMES? B61? HOW MANY? just 1, perhaps the last page the first one. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND ROW? G63? HOW MANY? 2. WHAT PAGE? second page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? j. initial of first name? c. 5 OR 6TH DOWN FROM J's? 1 of them. the 5th. WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? last page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? w. INITIAL OF FIRST NAME? e. FIRST WD OR LAST WD? I only see one. oh it's the first. 9:50:14 ANYBODY ELSE? ON THE THIRD ROW? JUROR i33? WHO BY PAGE? first page last name b, first name c. THE LAST B? yes. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST YOU RECOGNIZE? number 32, last c. CB? correct. last page...last name w, first name n. OK. I do have one more. last name z first name s. OK, COVER ALL OF THOSE? yes. 9:52:21 ANYBODY ELSE? JUROR E6. on last page, last name w first name n and last name z and first name s. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9:53:20 rionda: good morning... introduce myself to you all. reviewing why this is important 9:55:11 spent last week and first two days of this week going through the process, asked all of you questions related to case regarding publicity. individual so it didn't contaminate other juror's knowledge. important at arriving a decision comes from this court room. agree? yes. issue with that, outside of courtroom can't factor into decision? 9:56:18 what you saw or read from media is irrelevant. now in stage 2. question you individually and collectively about this case or background stuff about you 9:56:45 assure us that you will give consideration to all questions asked? yes 9:56:59 if during this process I ask individually or as a group and you feel uncomfortable talking about it in a group, let us know.... 9:57:41 juror b7? correct. do you want us to bring up issues about that and the time of the question? yes sir 9:58:06 were trying to get a jury that speaks the truth and arrive at just verdict 9:58:20 some of you were talked to last week and others were Monday and Tuesday... anyone go home and celebrate going through to next round? nobody? 9:58:42 appreciate you've taken this time already. 9:58:59 juror b12.... as talked about individually, how long resident of Seminole county? at least 40 years. how long have you lived at current address? 19 years. live in state of Florida before that? Michigan. left there when I was 9. married? no. divorced? yes. how long married before divorce? a yr. what does former spouse do for living? he's dead. children? 2. how old? 32 and 19. what do they do for living? one's a full time student and the other one owns his own company. medical field and construction worker. how long have you been at current employer? since October. before that? home health nurse. how long? 5 years. supervise people in that position? no. before that? CNA. how long total? 5 years. members or involved in organizations at all? volunteer work for moose lodge and my church. how long, long time? yeah. 10:02:51 leadership position? no anymore. prior experience? no. outside work and volunteering, anything else? raising my daughter, I'm a mother. any other hobbies? part of red hat society. I like my wine and going to the beach. served on jury before? no. just don't like the media being there.... that takes away his privileges, they put everything everywhere.... 10:05:31 b29... originally from Chicago? yes. grew up there? yes. married? yes. how long? 10 years. kids, yes? lots. how many? 8. under age of 18? one is over 18. how old is that one? going to be 20. live with you and husband? resides with me now. going to school or working? arrived a few weeks ago, looking for work 10:06:32 how long at employment? 3 months. prior to that? CNA. how long? 7 years. member of organization? my house. military service? no. spend time outside work, but I know answer and what you're passionate about? kids. jury service? no. 10:07:34 b76... how long in Seminole? since 1995. how long at current address? 1 week. prior to that? another address. originally from? been here since 1966. marital status? married. how long? 30 years. children? 2. how old? 28 attorney, 26 CNA. does your son practice in Seminole? yes. what practice? not criminal, foreclosures, bankruptcies, divorce, and contract. ever practiced criminal law? no. 10:08:59 picked as jury and they haven't talked about law and you can't call your son and ask him? yes I understand. 10:09:25 how long at current place of employment? unemployed. prior? husband and I had construction company. how long? 15 yes. husband still involved in that business? no. helping out children built their home. manage rental properties. involvement? I rescue a lot of pets. how long? a long time. military service? no. outside house? managing properties and rescuing animals. passion? rescuing animals. prior jury service? no 10:10:43 b7.... living in Seminole? between orange and Seminole 30 years. born and raised in Florida. married? yes. how long? 10 years. what does spouse do? just got out of school to be a teacher. kids? no. current occupation? 11 years. any management duties? I will. tell us about that? going to be elite position among others in similar roles. how many will you supervise? just 2-3. member in organization? I'm sure I am through her. military service? no. outside work? watch sports... love video games. socialize with friends go out to bar. passion? not passionate about a lot of stuff. ever served as juror? I have. how long ago? before I was working at current job, 12-15 years. Seminole or orange? Seminole. criminal or civil? criminal. reach a verdict? yes. fore person? no. enjoy it? I did. it was one day. 10:13:37 b35.... how long in Seminole? since 1985. current address? 12 yes. marital status? married. how long? going on 20+ years. what does spouse do? local TV. is she a reporter? no. comments I made about media you won't hold against me. 10:14:24 any kids? yes. 1 son in college now. what is he studying? engineering. current occupation, how long? I manage tax office in the year, vending machines and rental... for about 7 years... before that? properties around central Florida. member in organization? fraternity and football coach. how long? 13 years. military service? yes Marine Corp Reserves. how long? 6 years. military police? no. how do you spend time out of work? watching sports, coaching, spending time together. 10:16:07 real passion in life? coaching football.... served as juror? no 10:16:19 b37.... Seminole county? 18 years. prior? dad was air force captain. born in California, but went from coast to other. married? yes. 20 years. spouse job? space attorney... rockets and space craft. how long has that been a specialty? always... since he graduated. corporate attorney? yes. practice criminal law? no. would that influence you? no he wouldn't answer me. kids? 24, pet groomer, 27 at ucf. how long at employment? 16 years. management position? now I am, converted because girl before retired. ever settle disputes? no, there's only 3 of us.. were a family. organizations? involved in rescue groups, got out because I couldn't take more animals. do you know the other juror? I do not. 10:19:08 does anybody know any other jurors here? 10:19:15 military service? no. outside, I know. jury service? called 4 times... excluded from last one because of where I work. 10:19:41 b51.... how are you? good. Seminole? 9 years. originally? orange county. central Florida? since 1987. before? Atlanta. married? no. kids? no. grand kids? no. employment? retired. retired from what work? real estate.. several careers? I have. prior to that? director of call center. how long? 10 years. managerial duties? direct reports and 1200 employees. resolve disputes? often. how? listen to all sides and make tough calls. 10:21:11 member of any organizations? no. just enjoying retirement? yes. in military? I wasn't. for fun? driving back and forth to Jacksonville... elderly parents, lots of brothers and sisters. jury service? yes, one was in Seminole county 3 years ago... called case before we were called. another one in orange county in 1991, I was an alternate. 10:22:20 b86... how long a resident? 1989. before that? 1971 in orange county. marital status? single. kids? 2. 20 and 21... full time student and trying to get the other one back in school, he was ill. the one in school, what does he want to be? childhood specialist. how long in employment? 10 years. member in organizations? not any more, once at birds of prey... worked in church with youth group. in military? no. jury service? 10:24:24 e6.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange. how long? since 2004. originally? Brevard. marital status? married. what does spouse do? engineer. how long married? 6 years. kids? 2, 11 and 13. current occupation? unemployed. 9 months before that and prior to that I was in school and raising kids. what filed before? financial services. member in organization? member of church and I used to volunteer at kids school 10:25:44 military? no. how do you spend time outside of work? taking care of kids, dogs, helping with the friends young kids, gardening. prior jury service? no, called but never... 10:26:09 e40... Seminole county? 7 months. before that? Iowa. how long? 2 years. before that? California. come to Florida to retire? came to work in Florida. what do you do? safety officer. how long? over 25 years. marital status? married. spouse living? chemical engineer. kids? 1 son, 28 looking for work. prior to that? he was working in western Pennsylvania in fast food service. organization? no. military? no. fun? travel, read, and sports. any particular? all but football mainly. prior jury service? yes I have served. in Pennsylvania. criminal or civil? drug dealing 10:28:14 go back and deliberate? yes. reach verdict? we were. forewoman? I was not. enjoy experience? I did 10:28:30 e54... how long in Seminole? 14 years. before that? orange. since I was 8. marital status? married for 5 years. spouse? engineering technician. kids? two step children, 16 living with us and the other is late 20s. how long working there? 3 years. before that? same field for 30 years. member involved in organizations? no. military? no. fun? reading, working on family tree, playing golf. where's family from originally? Maryland 10:29:58 passions I guess? it was for a while, now that we finished it's on the side 10:30:09 jury service? summoned but never sat 10:30:18 e73... Seminole? 13 years. prior? new jersey. grow up there? I did not. grew up? new York. current address? 13 years. marital status? married. how long? 33 years. spouse? retired. prior to that? telecommunications firm. kids? yes. how many? 2. how old and what they do? 15 on Sunday, 18. still in school? going to college. what he wants to do? I don't think he's there yet 10:31:34 retired or working? consultant. how long? 10 years. before that? large telecommunications firm. where your husband worked? yes. meet there? we did. organizations? not currently. before? various arts councils. military? no. fun? going to sporting events, children active in sports... make jewelry, read, I love the beach 10:32:28 prior jury service? yes. here in Seminole? 3 times in Seminole, once for federal court and once in Ohio. served 5 times? yes. enjoy it? not always. Ohio, criminal or civil? civil I think. deliberate? settled out of court after 5 days. federal? criminal. deliberate? I didn't get seated on jury. three here, criminal or civil? first was civil and I didn't do anything. next was criminal settled out of court, next one I didn't get seated. 10:34:16 m75.... how long in Seminole? since 2001. before that? new York. grow up there? yes. lived in current address? 2 months. prior to that? still in Seminole, just different space. married or single? single. kids? no. work? 2 months. prior? travel agent for cruise. how long? 1 year. before that? theme parks in Orlando. how long? almost 2 years. what did you do? guest service attendant moved to cashier and food service. member of organization? not currently, used to volunteer at animal shelter. military? no. fun? large family, visit with them. military service? no 10:36:22 b61... how long in Seminole? 5 years. current address for? 4 years. prior? orange, Volusia, army brat. marital status? married. how long? 2 months. husband? full time student. engineer. kids? no. engineer too? yes. how long? 7 years. member of organizations? church, professional society, and sorority. leadership? I have, but not now. military? no. fun? studying, reading and spending time with family. studying to be? for an exam. prior jury service? no 10:38:00 b72.... how long resident? 9 years. originally? Chicago. marital status? single. kids? no. work? coming to a year. same field but different job? yes. involved in organizations? alumni of fraternity. leadership? vice president of local chapter but I wouldn't say so. military? no. fun? arm wrestling, going to gym.... one arm pull up. how long? 2.5 years. wrestling in high school? weight lift, track, football 2 years. meets to arm wrestle? depends on venue, encompasses everything... I could talk about it all day 10:40:00 prior jury service? no 10:40:05 e22... how long in Seminole? 12 years. prior? orange. grow in central Florida? only since 92. up north? spend a lot of time there. married? single. kids? no. work? 19 years. organizations? social service with employer. military? no. spend time out of work? gardening, all things food. passionate about? yeah. jury service? called in asocial but didn't serve 10:41:34 e13.... how long in Seminole? 17 years. marital status? single. kids? no. how long have you been doing that? surgical assistant for 2 years. member of organizations? church. military? no. outside work? horses. passion is riding? yes. jury service? no 10:42:33 e28.... how long Seminole? 1985. before that? Texas. originally from? yes. marital? married for 28 years, 2 children... 27 and 23 work for theme park and hotel side of it. spouse do? teacher. work? 26 years. members? professional, relay for life. how you spend time out of work? yes. jury? summoned for federal, never called and served in Texas... read verdict? yes. deliberate? yes. forewoman? no. enjoy that? yes I did 10:44:16 k80... Seminole county? 2004. before? Virginia. grew up there? most of life. marital status? 15 years... spouse? maintenance tech. kids? 2. two girls. under 18? yes. work? over 5 years, same line of work for 15 years. member of organizations? attend church regularly, girl scouts, soccer. military? family members, father was navy grandfathers and cousins. fun? work absorbs time and then children. jury service? no first time 10:45:49 k95... how long in Seminole? 16 years. before that? orange for 7 and manatee for 4. marital? married. 15 years. spouse? electrician. kids? yes. how old? daughter that's 24, son that'll be 14, and a grandson. daughter? internship to be a dental hygienist. work? consultant, used to own company for 7 years. same industry for 10 10:46:51 member of organizations? yeah, ptk. pbl. fbi. Alzheimer's association, autism speaks and march of dimes. military? no. jury service? no 10:47:22 p67... why we can't do this in private... is there a way? do in private with nobody else? approach bench? VOIR DIRE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC FORM. YOU CAN APPROACH. your name is private if that's what you're worried about. I just don't want the media to put labels on me like finding something else. JURY SELECTION PROCESS HAS TO BE OPEN COURT, OPEN TO PUBLIC...ZIMMERMAN HAS RIGHT TO BE THERE, ATTORNEYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE... REMOVE OTHER JURY MEMBERS, WILL NOT CLEAR THE COURT ROOM... MAYBE A QUESTION ASKED THAT IS SENSITIVE NATURE TO YOU THAT I CAN'T CLEAR THE COURT ROOM, BUT I CAN DO IT OUTSIDE PRESENCE OF OTHER MEMBERS. 10:49:51 from where? been here since 2008. Seminole county how long? since 2008. before that? moved from Chicago. before that, originally? Mexico. how long in US? since I was 18 years old. married? yes. how long? about 20 years. kids? yes. how old? 18, and 16 and 11. still in school? just out of high school. work for how long? since 2008. involved in organizations? church. military? no. fun? helping wife, kids and watching sports. first time in jury? yes. looking forward to it? looking to have a nice experience, but it's been a nightmare. every day something is different. if it's going to affect my family I'm not looking forward to it...still feel it's a hardship for you? absolutely 10:52:34 g14... how long in Seminole? once before and recently from 2005 to now. grew up and moved out? no dad in military. marital status? divorced. former spouse? does not work at this time. what did he do? assembly. kids? 2 boys. 12 and 15. work? 3 years. before? sold print advertising. how long? 1996 to 2010. involved in organizations? boy scouts. how long? 6 years. military service? I have not been, but family. spend time outside work? boy scouts, taking care of my boys and reading. jury? summoned 2 other times, but never seated on jury 10:54:22 g29... Seminole county? 9 months. before that? in orange county. marital? single. kids? no. work? almost 6 years. before that? same field for total over 14 years. member of organizations? no. military? no. fun? friends and family and sports and TV. jury service? summoned in orange but never on jury 10:55:33 g47.... how long in Seminole? under 9 years. before? Boston, MA. marital? single. kids? nope. current job, how long? since October. before that? unemployed. member with organization? no. military? none. fun? sports friends beer. jury service? once, but it was settled 10:56:24 g63..... how long in Seminole? 4 years. before? orange. martial? single. kids? no. unemployed now, before that? teaching assistant and student. major? mathematics. member of any organizations? no. military service? no. fun? chess, Olympic weightlifting, piano. how long Olympic? a year. jury? no 10:57:40 g66.... Seminole? 2 years. prior? 12 years in Madison. prior to that? Chicago. marital? widow. spouse? mechanic for trucks. kids? 2 daughters. oldest is 36 works for entertainment company. 32 year old works for entertainment lighting... how long you work? retired. prior? at hospitals. financial advisor. member of organizations? started riding with Care Takers... motorcycle club. military? no. outside work? ride with my boyfriend, fish, spend time with family. what does boyfriend do? he sails. jury service? once in Chicago... alternate 10:59:45 g81.... how long in Seminole? 16 years. marital status? married. how long? 19 years. spouse? administrative assistant. how long? 19 years. member in organizations? professional. military service? no. fun? golf, travel, sports. prior service? no. 11:00:37 h6... Seminole? 1.5 years. prior? orange and Colorado. in Florida? since 2004. married? no. kids? no. current job? 5 months. prior to that? same line of work, but in it for 7 years now. member involved in organizations? no. military service? no. fun? relax... jury service? yes. in Seminole or others? orange. 2 years ago. criminal case. deliberate? yes. verdict? on most charges. foreman? no 11:02:04 h7.... in Seminole? 27 years, before Illinois, before Texas. married 44 years. 2 children ones 41 in Ireland. 39 in el Paso. spouse? weight watchers councilor for 25 years takes care of house. job? 40 years. member of organizations? professional associations, boy scouts for 35 years, instructor for merit badges, wife and I will have a small nursery. prior jury service? 1 in Seminole criminal case, foreperson we reached a verdict. 11:03:30 h18.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange county for almost a year. overseas before? yes. how long? 1996. marital status? going through divorce. kids? 1. girl is 7. job? in that field since I got to Florida, before that......... overseas in military? army and then contractor for defense company...involved in any organizations? no. fun? gym, tennis, swimming, with my daughter. jury service? no 11:05:05 h29... resident of Seminole? over 30 years, and orange... army brat. marital status? divorced. spouse? school teacher. kids? yeah 2 daughters, 28 and 30 year old... working with UCF and the other is handicapped. work? 30 years. member? professional and served on local city board for 15 years... leadership? yes. military? I also served too. how long? 4 years. military police? no. fun? beach, tennis... beer. jury service? summoned once 15 years ago... never sat 11:07:11 h18... military police? no 11:07:17 h35... Seminole? 24 years. martial? married. how long? 5 years. spouse? unemployed. before? lawn service. kids? no. job? unemployed taking care of grandfather before. member of organizations? was in 2010. military? no. spend time for fun? beach. jury service? no 11:08:17 h81... how long in Seminole? since 2000. prior to that? Pennsylvania. marital status? 31 years. spouse? supervisor at hotel. kids? 25 year old daughter in marketing son in navy. work? 25 years. member of organizations? 1 professional. military? no. fun? family and discovering cool internet technologies. jury service? yes. in Seminole criminal case. verdict? yes. foreman? no 11:09:39 h69... resident of Seminole? 21 years. marital status? married. how long? 11 months. spouse? technician with bright house. work? a year and 8 months. before that in school? IRA company. member of any organizations? church, human resources. military? no. fun? usually with mom or dad. prior jury service? no. 11:10:43 h86.... Seminole? born and raised. married? no. kids? no. job? 6 months. before? technician. organizations? professional and church. military? no. fun? volunteer and with family. jury? summoned, but away for school 11:11:37 i5.... how long in Seminole? 13 years. before that? Alaska for 27 years. what were you doing? working, originally in military, 7 years and then discharged work for financial... married? yes. spouse? auditor. kids? yes. 3. what do they do? oldest son is 40 worked for grocery chain, out in California. daughter is 38 works for utility company and my youngest works for IT group. work? almost 40 years. member of any organizations outside? no all professional. military police? no. fun? watching sports on TV, hang with friends, I like working with computers..... jury service? yes. Seminole or elsewhere? 2 assignments here in Seminole and when I lived in Alaska I think I had 4. 2 here, deliberate? just 1. criminal or civil? DWI. we deliberated. verdict? yes. foreman? yes. 4 in Alaska and deliberate all of them? yes. criminal or civil? all civil. foreman on 1 of them. reach verdict on all 4? yes. enjoy experiences? looking back I did... when I was on it I didn't 11:14:48 i19.... resident in Seminole? 3 years. before? orange. marital status? single. kids? no. work? 1 year. before that? retail. organizations? no. military? no. fun? school. health service admin. jury? no 11:15:36 i24... how long in Seminole? 1968. marital status? married. shy of 39 years. spouse? he is a coordinator transportation for theme park. kids? 29 athletic trainer, 22 student, 29 installer. student, studying? psychology. work? just shy of 42 years. organizations? no. military? no. fun? sports work in yard, beach, hit the road and go to mountains. jury? summoned once but never had to 11:17:09 i33... resident in Seminole? 30 years. marital? married. spouse? account manager. kids? no. work? searching for new career. how long in field before? 44 years. member in organization? yes. what kind? environmental advocacy and county board. how long? just over a year. military service? no. fun? small farm and enjoy offshore competition fishing. jury service? no. 11:18:29 i44... resident in Seminole? 2 years but 25 in orange. marital status? married. spouse? RN. kids? 3, 10, 12, and 9 month son. work? 12 years. field? before that in theme park industry. involved in organizations? Florida barbecue association. military service? no. fun? family raising little one. jury service? 4 years ago orange I was alternate 11:20:17 15 MINUTE RECESS, FOLLOW JARVIS OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. ================================================================ 11:41:13 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. approach? YES (sidebar) 11:42:19 jurors are present 11:43:26 PLEASE BE SEATED... RIONDA YOU MAY CONTINUE 11:43:39 group questions... and then individual too... sit here today, give the defendant a fair trial? yes. give the state a fair trial? yes. give both sides fair? yes. issue? believe both sides do not deserve fair trial? defendant and stat fair trial? yes 11:44:32 state has to prove defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. it's the law. court will give you instructions. states burden, understand? yes. states prove crime was committed and defendant did it? yes. 11:45:18 read like what it is not... a reasonable doubt is not forced, imaginary, speculative... must have reason for that doubt. not to a mathematical certainty, not absolute? yes 11:46:11 believe the burden should be higher than reasonable doubt, like perfection? 11:46:34 sit here today, do you all understand concept/law talks about presumption of innocence. this defendant is presumed innocent, understand? yes. not innocent, but presumed innocent? yes. abide by that? yes. 11:47:23 live in greatest country of world and our criminal justice allows for a trial. no matter what the charge, state has burden. understand? yes. trial is the way? yes 11:47:56 defendant has no obligation? yes. how do you render a verdict? court will give instructions on how to do that. rely on facts and law and also in the process you use common sense in arriving in verdict. 11:48:45 law also says you don't speculate... not allowed in arriving in verdict. speculation plays no role, rely on evidence. agree? yes 11:49:14 what witness says is evidence, no the questions 11:49:51 difference between real world and TV world or make believe. 11:50:08 b35... if attorney asks question of witness and the witness says no, what do you believe? what witness said. is that important? yes. why? he's the witness.. he knows what's going on 11:50:58 sympathy plays no role at all in verdict, understand? yes. 11:51:22 understand that sympathy can't be consider at all, agree? yes 11:51:32 k80... agree with that? yes. why? based off facts and not emotion 11:52:05 bias shouldn't play a role at all in arriving in verdict.... g63, do you believe people are bias to certain things? yes. sometimes about people with bald heads or whatever, people has bias? yes. agree bias shouldn't play role at all? correct. biases about how people dress, should play role? no. why? not relevant to the facts that happened. do you think were always able to pick if someone is bias? not always. how can you tell? maybe if they... if they act in a way with specific preference for something more if they didn't have any advice. 11:53:57 penalties in this case, judges job what the penalties are. m75... problem with that? no. can't consider what the penalties are, no role? I understand. I agree. 11:54:49 job is only to defend guilt or innocence? yes. will anyone consider the penalties, you can't do that, agree? yes. 11:55:12 agree with that b37... I agree. why? falls in sympathy part. shouldn't play role at all? should not 11:55:59 state proves evidence, direct evidence... circumstantial evidence.... direct is someone sees something. circumstantial is added to other piece of puzzle to prove something. 11:56:25 law allows that the state can use direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. I come home and wife tells me kid brought cookie jar and the kids say they didn't do it... no eye witness, question kids... but one has crumbs in her mouth... that's an inference to prove something else 11:57:55 i44... ever used circumstantial evidence? all the time. at work or home? at home. give me an example? who made the mess, it wasn't us. who had breakfast, both of us. what did you have... oatmeal and there's oatmeal all over the counter. 11:58:47 I used to ask who watches CSI, now I ask reverse. who hasn't heard of CSI? b7 you have not watched CSI? no. anyone else who hasn't watched? b29, b35, b86, b61, b72, e28, k95, p67, h69, h86, h29. 12:01:01 not the real world... people want to believe that's real, they expect that evidence to appear out of nowhere... that's not the real world. hold state of Florida to what they've seen on csi? E6 HAS A QUESTION.... E6: going back to circumstantial evidences... circumstances can be misleading, so does it have to be very... still proven beyond unreasonable doubt. 12:02:38 never watched any of those shows? still have a few. b29... why? I like drama. real world as opposed to make believe? yeah 12:03:14 also had in last 5 or 10 years an increase in real lawyer type shows... not the real world? 12:03:43 i5... ever watch those shows? watched them don't make sense to me. some of them may be lawyers? question integrity of them... real lawyer wouldn't do that 12:04:17 not going to determine guilt or innocence from TV? yes. b61, agree with that? yes. if they're not representing client they don't know the facts, may have special interest. 12:05:35 how people feel about attorneys, how many of you liked their commercials... love those commercials??? hold against state of Florida or omara because were attorneys? anybody? 12:06:11 we realize people come into court room with opinions? yes. all come in with opinion on things, right? yes. if people are exposed to things, how do we make sure they make their decision on evidence opposed to what opinion should be. e73, what do we do with people whit opinions? that's a tough one cause I don't know that you'd always know about their opinion. e54, question? I don't know how you can guarantee that's not going to happen... you hope they don't. agree with e73 and e54? yes 12:08:18 h29... how would you assure opinions do not factor in the decision? profile a jury, ask questions look for answers that will represent you and people that are fair. no good way to do it. everyone agree? yes. telling the truth to best of ability.... 12:09:34 can you follow the law as a group? be frank with us.. does anybody feel they cannot? anybody? no from everyone? yes sir 12:10:02 h6... agree with that? yes. how would you assure that it doesn't interfere? don't know how you find out how, but keep my opinion out of it 12:10:44 both sides get fair trial 12:11:08 b67.... too personal or it's alright? it's alright. g14? agree that sometimes we make assumptions that turn out not to be true? yes. ever done that? yes. example? meet somebody and think they're stuck up and then I would find out later they were shy. agree with g14? yes. has anyone ever been wrong about an assumption? 12:12:58 assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes sir 12:13:22 opinions and assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes 12:13:30 how do we know that happens? e40, how? check our personal values and hold others accountable and challenge if we see those bias. discrepancies raise an issue 12:14:13 attorneys, who knows any attorney? b12? yes. are they here in town? Tim Morgan. what practice? friend of his. talk to him about law? no. b76? my son. asked you that before? yes. b35? friend from hometown and friends I went to college with. civil or criminal? split. discuss law? no sir... b37? married to attorney, anybody else? attorneys from work that work on cases like personal injuries. criminal or civic? not that I'm aware of. interfere in any way? no sir. b51? neighbor. corporate lawyer... 12:17:03 e6? I know a woman in Colorado in contract law... e40? several from college, woman I rent house from is in real estate law and she's in Texas. e54? I do know people who are attorneys but I don't discuss with them. 12:17:53 e73? friends and family. criminal law? no 12:18:05 g47? friends' mother for Volusia. civil law. interfere? no. g14? I know a couple attorneys through boy scout, but I don't know criminal. no interference no. 12:18:59 k95? several from network associations, patent, tax and contract. no criminal? not that I know of. interference? no sir 12:19:23 k80? friends and legal counsel at our company. criminal? no. interference? no 12:19:43 e13? moms side of families, some attorneys? criminal? I have no idea.. influence? no 12:20:04 e22? three attorneys, all civil. interfere? no 12:20:14 b61? several from college, all civil and no interference 12:20:28 h6? know an attorney that does workers comp law. interfere? no 12:20:43 h7? department of defense, contract lawyers. nephew in environmentalism 12:20:50 h29? several from my profession. interfere? no 12:21:09 h81? I know 20-25 attorneys. criminal? a handful. discussions about the law? most involved around consumer law. interfere as juror? that wouldn't influence me 12:21:56 h86? past employers were attorneys... insight into law? no 12:22:09 i33? several lawyers both civil and criminal. interfere with decision? no. 12:22:40 anybody associated with law, judges? i33? I know a few sir... 12:23:01 interfere in any way to be a juror? no. 12:23:14 personal questions about arrest, victim of crime, if it's something you want in private let us know. need to know impact it may have. 12:24:02 front row, arrested? b12, here in Seminole? Daytona. still pending? no thrown out of court, never went. would that experience factor in to be fair juror? no. set aside? I was only 17 so yeah. feel you were treated fairly? for who I was with... hold against Florida? no. hold against Zimmerman? no. 12:25:07 b29? Chicago. still pending? it's been disposed of? yeah. interfere with you? no. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes. 12:25:36 b35? orange county. still pending? no. disposed of? yes. how long ago? 1987. unfairly treated? no. prosecuted or case dismissed? I was prosecuted. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes 12:26:24 e6? in Florida, Brevard back in 1999. pending? no. treated fairly. 12:27:13 h7? 40 years ago state of Texas. not pending? correct. treated fairly? absolutely. it was acquitted. hold against? no 12:28:04 h81? Seminole. pending? no. how long ago? yr. and a half ago. treated fairly? yes. no charges it was detained.. no charges. hold against? no 12:28:55 i33? Seminole. pending? no. treated unfairly? yes. arrested or prosecuted? both. won't hold it against anybody. what happened to your case? go to court, pay a fine. won't hold against? no sir. 12:30:00 anybody been a subject of criminal investigation? no from everybody 12:30:14 close friend arrested and you felt was treated unfairly? b7? family or close friend? close friend. pending? no. orange county. arrested unfairly. dropped? I don't know. hold against? no. 12:31:13 k95? friend in Ohio arrested and treated unfairly. pending? no. when she was incarcerated. drop charges on her? no. told by the judge she could take medicine and they didn't give to her, brought her to hospital 12:32:28 b61? someone was arrested, treated unfairly. charges were dropped. here in Florida? yes. pending? no. hold against? no. 12:33:06 A LOT OF YOU HERE.... AN HOUR ENOUGH? COME BACK AT 1:45. WHILE ON LUNCH BREAK, GO WITH EACH OTHER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THIS CASE. NO RADIO OR TV REPORTS. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES. ASSURANCE TO ABIDE BY INSTRUCTIONS? 12:34:23 COURT IN RECESS FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:45 ================================================ 13:46:07 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. DO WE HAVE THE JURORS BACK? COUNCIL APPROACH FOR JUST A MOMENT (sidebar) 14:02:46 PLEASE BE SEATED. WELCOME BACK. APPEARS TO BE HERE AND IN CORRECT PLACES. DURING LUNCH DID ANY OF YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? DID ANY OF YOU READ OR LISTEN TO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE? USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE ABOUT THE CASE? READ OR CREATE ANY THING ABOUT THE CASE? 14:03:39 rionda: welcome back. 14:04:05 h81... a friend or close family member? close friend. in Seminole? no. Pennsylvania. treated unfairly? yes. in prosecution. hold against us? I would no. interfere? it would not. 14:05:05 were you a victim of a crime that it impacted you so much you wouldn't be able to participate? 14:05:26 b76? yes. b7? yes. b86? yes. anybody else? e40? e73? second row: e22? k80? k95? last row: g81? h7? h35? h81? i33? i44? did I get everybody? 14:06:35 violent crime? e73, b86, k80, e22. 14:07:09 you have to set it aside for the purposes of this trial. agree to leave outside court room... think you cannot, raise your hand... e73? just because of the nature that happened to you? it was a very similar crime. wouldn't be able to.... set it aside? it's always in my mind. 14:08:27 anybody else? 14:08:49 victims of crime, let me broaden criteria... crime to your household, felt police did not do a good job investigating? b7. home break in. here in Seminole? it was. they didn't do a good job? they didn't investigate at all. do you think that would impact you at all in this case to sit as juror or can you set aside? no. it wasn't a big deal. agree to leave outside court? yeah. 14:10:17 in that case, were you present? I came home and scared of burglars I think. chase them? no. knew better? I didn't realize until later.... called police and they didn't respond? when I was in high school, police came and they asked what was stolen and officer asked me if any of my friends did this. ever find out who it was? no. anybody else? 14:11:31 b86... many years ago, fast food restaurant. police officer scared us more than the person who just robbed us with the gun. going to our car when gun was pulled on us, we ran back into the restaurant after guy grabbed a bag... police knocked on door and we thought it was the guy again. make him go around so we can see him. tell us you're a police officer, he said "this isn't TV". hold against? no. know who was arrested? yes. he hit us twice, finally got caught. testify? no I couldn't pick him out. 14:13:33 does anybody live in community in which there is no crime? anybody? collective no. 14:14:02 steps to address it in your neighborhood? e54... I assume there's crime in my neighborhood, not personally aware of it. 14:14:42 k95... I would put up a no soliciting sign in my neighborhood. effective? yes. anything further? no. there's a neighborhood watch. are you a part of it? no. 14:15:12 e73... we had a sudden increase in crime in neighborhood. they started a watch. join it? no, but went to a meeting. set up in uniform? no. armed? I don't think so. not involved in watch? no 14:15:54 anybody else? b76... just had teens vandalizing signs... police took care of it. we had a watch I just told them about it. any steps yourself to get involved? telling the other neighbors 14:16:30 b35...still with us... closing your eyes just want to make sure 14:16:51 b7: what was the question again. crime in community and you got involved? no. 14:17:26 feel like people have the right to take law into their own hands? anybody? i5 shaking your head.... there may be occasions, but basically I would say no. g63... crimes in neighborhood? I'm assuming? watch in your community? not that I'm aware of. your last question was very general we have governments that we authorize to do that. 14:19:17 as individuals people shouldn't. g7, agree? where is the process or a citizen's arrest. I don't know how it applies. 14:19:45 other than what law allows, try to arrest people on your own? never have. i24, ever crossed your mind to arrest someone? no but I would do something if they tried to break into my house. id protect my family 14:20:34 can everybody agree the law applies equally to everyone? yes. it should or it doesn't? 14:20:54 b7.... hear a lot about it in the news. always believe? not always. 14:21:13 law matter about which part of county? no. difference in wealth class? no. matter if gated or not? no. where they're from? no. b72, it shouldn't matter? no. why not? when you see the law, the law applies to everyone it doesn't discriminate or consider race or sex. if we use this as criteria, the whole system goes down. 14:22:26 should it matter about race gender or ethnicity? no. 14:22:53 ever been a witness and testify? g81... was it here in Seminole? no. orange. proceeding or hearing or trial? it was juvenile system, proceeding. testify? yes. treated fairly by lawyers and judge and deputies? yes I was. anything about that you felt would interfere? nothing that happened there 14:23:56 h7: I've given depositions before. was it unpleasant it would influence you? no it was not. representation from both sides and told them what I knew. told the truth as best you could remember? yes 14:25:03 h29... I've been deposed before. anything about that experience? I was on the good guy side, never got to the other side. 14:25:23 h81... deposition, hearing, trial? I've been a witness a few times... treated unfairly? no. 14:26:00 i24... I was a witness in a car accident. eye witness? yeah and we had to verify who hit who. more than one? several people. all have to come to court? no we all went to court and stood in front of judge and told her what we saw. questioning you? just the judge... 14:27:00 g63... witness for criminal trial in orange county. eye witness? I was an eye witness to nothing. still called? yes. badgered in any way by either side? no. it wasn't unpleasant it was inconvenient. impact you? no 14:27:48 k80.... witness in child custody case. in front of court? no jury, just a judge. treated fairly? yes, no badgering.. civil questions. 14:28:22 k95... federal lawsuit case, it wasn't a good experience. because of way you were treated? yes. by who? attorneys and judge. judge nelson? no. it wasn't in this state. attorneys were asking improper questions? I was told I was at an economic disadvantage. scream back at them? kept my cool and had to pay it off. terrible experience? yes. hold against? no this was business 14:29:50 e22... I've been deposed. treated fairly? yes. deposition end there or another proceeding? never went to trial. that experience that you were treated unfairly? no. 14:30:30 e6... custody trial and domestic violence... nothing about the proceedings. treated fairly? yes. impact? no. e40... witness to car accident, no jury... I was treated fairly. other people eye witness too. there when other witnesses testified? I was around... 20 years ago though. 14:31:40 all read the witness list... cover that. how you know the person and the impact of that.... 14:32:16 e6... SHES IN SEAT NUMBER 9, GIVE HER LIST. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. recognize that as yours? yes. circled two names on front page. one of them starts with d and j... professional or social? I recognize the name I don't personally know them. recognize them as physician. impact you? no it would not. also have under that name, three down from that. know the name? I don't know them personally, received referral to her for one of my children. impact? no. some on last page... last name with w recognize name or the person? just the name. impact? no. third from bottom starts with z and s? know them? no. recognize name? yes. impact? no. 14:35:16 i33.... first page, last name starts with b and first name is c. know them or recognize name? right, could be somebody that I name... I have no idea if I know them or not. assuming it's the same person you know, what do they do for a living? construction business. person you know is him? correct. with the work you do? yes. if he testified, find him more credible? no sir, not necessarily no. if it's the same person could you rely just on what they said as opposed to knowing them? absolutely. another name with a c and a b? correct. recognize? just heard the name. no impact on you? no sir. first person/ another relationship, fun thing and I see him once a year... fun thing, activity? yeah it would ID me. you interact with him though? yes sir 14:38:23 last page, last name w and n? yes. recognize or personal? recognize name. know them other than that? no. 14:38:45 toward bottom of page, z and s? recognize the name. impact? no sir 14:39:22 juror number.... second page j and c... know them? as a celebrity... not the person that were talking about here. ok? and someone else.... last page last name with w and d? how do you know them? name I think I recognize. impact? no. 14:40:29 b61.... last page, at top? yes. personal or professional? if same person it's personal but haven't seen them in 2-3 years. friends? yes. exercise together. hear them on witness stand find them more or less credible? it wouldn't impact if it were any other witness. how close, how much interaction? person in social organization, saw her a lot for a while. over a yr. or two? a couple years while I was in school. is this person still a member of that organization? yes. impact you? no 14:42:49 hear from witness, evaluate based on insurrections from court? yes. g47, depend if witness has job? no. why? irrelevant to the case. g29 does it matter if they're law enforcement? no. everyone agree? yes 14:43:37 e54 agree with that? sure 14:43:41 law allows for certain witnesses to be treated differently, experts can give opinion opposed to other witnesses. e13... agree with that? yes would say.. e28 agree? yes. why? they're experts in that field. evaluate and use instructions from court and the expertise? yes 14:44:43 b51.... agree with that? I do. why? education or experience and wouldn't call on them to discuss position or opinion without experience. ever had to rely on expert testimony? not testimony. go to expert for advice? no. anybody? b7.... rely on experts on constant basis 14:45:41 b35... agree? yes. why? practice in their field. b76 agree? yes. b12... agree? yes. why? education and school and have knowledge of that. H69 HAS QUESTIONS. h69: if attorney asked for opinion and they didn't just interject it? yes. that they asked for opinion and they didn't just interject opinion. if attorneys ask expert could you rely on his opinion? yes. why? I'm going to assume a witness researches before getting on the stand... rely on expert if both side find them to be an expert 14:47:55 in this type of case, since the trial is murder.... H86... also wondering if witness on stand only giving facts or opinions unless were asking for their opinion? right... e6... clarify to me I would believe an expert has studied and accumulated knowledge in area, but sometimes experts don't always agree even if in the same field, how is that treated? use your common sense and if it's credible. judge will give instructions about that. expert can give opinion. you can find an opinion with the one you wanted... You decide... 14:50:21 juror number..... person is an expert and we assume they are.. court will give you a ruling on that. expert is entitled to give opinion. if a juror finds a person is qualified as expert they don't have to accept that opinion. you would hear their qualifications and make that determination. 14:51:44 exposed to photos you've never been exposed to, problem looking at photos? does everyone understand the question? ok? yes 14:52:29 b37 you're fine with that... yes. b35.. yes 14:52:39 everyone else agree? yes 14:52:44 law enforcement experience? nobody. h86? not myself, but two aunts and uncles who are lieutenants. 14:53:19 h86, family in law enforcement? yes. departments here in Seminole? I believe it's orange. discuss matters with them about justice system? in the past I have. impact your decision? no. how extensive, more than 1? 3 family members. close with them? 2 of them. interact on weekly basis? yes. uniform? yes. how long in field? over 20 years. look up to them for advice? in general, yes. pursue law enforcement career? no. 14:54:37 k95... when you say law enforcement, but 40 years ago I worked in retail where I used to watch shop lifters... watched them and recorded them. apprehend them? no. I just do my job and report to manager.... someone else would apprehend? yes. successful? yes. how? bust a lot of my sisters friends. 14:55:50 anybody else I overlooked... i24? sort of in same situation... I didn't catch them. I did translation when they did get caught and they didn't speak English. for a company who had a lot of guests who got caught shop lifting. what language? Portuguese. several years? quite a lot. enjoy it? yes. anything that would interfere? no. k95... anything that would interfere? no 14:57:01 anybody else? k80.... family members. tell me? uncle who was in SWAT and cousin is NCIS agent. occasions to discuss with them? no. there are stories after the fact. interfere? no 14:57:42 b35.... family members mom worked for sheriff's department and cousins in police in Titusville. see them regularly? once or twice a year. discussions about job? 14:58:14 how come you didn't join department? first not to go into law enforcement because I went to school. not exciting enough? make a little more money and wanted to do my own thing. impact you one way or another? no. more incline to favor police officer? no 14:59:05 b7.... law enforcement, my wife used to work in the field, often had discussions about it. her job and dealing with victims? absolutely. how do you feel about that, would it impact you here? no. it was a while ago. in this case you have a victim, favor state in this case? no. wouldn't impact you? not when I last served on jury 15:00:13 b86... I used to do transcription for private investigator... a while ago? 15 yes ago in orange. former officer? yeah. record and you would transcribe? yes. impact favoring? no. 15:00:54 e6... include close friends? anybody important for us to know about.... family friend he was SWAT detective... he just left the force and went into private sector but served almost 17 years... impact your opinion? no 15:01:41 b12.... my dad was a Syracuse cop and my nephew is FBI agent. anything about nature of that would favor one side? no. 15:02:36 h69... any family member? yeah. cousin who works for government.... she's working with homeland security... opportunities to discuss her job? some times. anything about what she does you feel would impact you one way or another? no. desire to join her? it sounds exciting, but not for me 15:03:34 k95.... family or friends? yes someone important to let us know. acquaintances from homeland security and friend that is head of security. discuss criminal matters? no. the law? no. 15:04:14 k80.... friends? some close to you. neighbors son in law is US Marshall... and another Seminole county deputy and then another one and family friend have deputies at jail... discussions with them? no. interfere? no 15:05:02 e22.... close friend who was in law enforcement for 2 decades... discussions? interfere? no. 15:05:27 g66... my brother in law retired from police enforce, my niece is.... discuss matters? about what they do. desire to join? when I was younger. impact you? no 15:06:05 H7 HAS HAND UP... h7: friends through boy scouts. never discussed outside of scouts. no impact one way or another 15:06:29 i19... my uncle is police officer. still? yes. local? somewhere else. impact you? no. 15:06:57 i24... husband's niece is married to gentleman in fbi. anything about that? no. 15:07:19 i33... my wife's father is retired sheriff. no impact. in this county? different state. impact you? no 15:07:44 anybody in this room that has not had a dispute with another person? anybody? physical dispute? b35... verbal to physical. a long time ago? yeah. resolve it between you two? once or twice police were called. impact you? no sir 15:08:34 anybody else? e6... I was involved in domestic violence. impact? no. b7? fight in middle school... (Everyone laughs) I think I lost. any impact? no 15:09:33 k95... just domestic. impact you? no. 15:09:45 disputes where you worked it out? everyone? b61 have you? yes. how? talk about it. 15:10:19 g66? dispute where you resolved? yes. without violence? yes. talking loud walking away 15:10:34 medical experience, in the field one way or another? g47....registered EMT. impact? not that I'm aware of. k95... CNA and activity director. anyone else? e40... certified health care officer. b12.... 15:11:42 e28.... medical. h86? home health CNA before RN. 15:12:07 other than b72... fitness people? h18... work out all the time? lifting every morning, play tennis... e13.... weight lift and run and go to gym. b72... wrestling, anybody else wrestle? boxing? h29... trying to get more George Forman on.... in the military. how well? middle levels before someone was young. I remember 5, 6.... (everyone's laughing) 15:13:46 anybody else? g63... weight lifting? yes. training for sport. endurance type thing? weight lifting. for a year? yes. 15:14:09 h18... boxing? martial arts since I was a kid. 15:14:36 involved in martial arts? yes. green belt. b86.... tae-kwon-do with my kids... couple years senior blue belt. 15:15:16 training in phonetics? linguistics? I did sign language many years ago. (juror number) 15:15:41 e13... four years of sign language 15:15:49 live in gated community? g63... 4 years ago community had security guard in its entrance. i19, h86, h81.... 15:16:28 live in neighborhood with a watch? b7... seen the signs, but I'm... b35? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e73? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e22 watch? sign but I don't know who's on it? involved? no. k80? watch? yes. involved? no and my husband is block captain but I don't know what he does. k95? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. (two more jurors... not involved) 15:18:32 g63... not where I live but before, I don't know who was involved. 15:18:45 last row: h18? involved? no. h29... we have signs. involved? no. I know some ladies who are. 15:19:18 anybody consider expert in DNA? no from everybody 15:19:51 who does not have a cell phone? everyone has one. anyone an expert on cell phones? i44... working knowledge of that.... 15:20:27 expert someone beyond being able to turn it on. (juror number): I am... witness? no. records of calls?. anyone else. b7? same circumstance. e73? same responses. g47: I consider myself tech savvy. k95: I have a lot of jobs, work in IT. 15:21:53 agree people dress differently? way they dress does it matter? no. 15:22:22 assume certain things based on attire? e6... lots of different things. woman dressed or wearing expensive things....rich? either that or give that appearance. if they're not, they're poor? could mean many different things. known wealthy man who preferred to dress down. we make assumptions 15:23:30 in terms of law, what does it say about assumptions? they don't count. 15:24:04 this case the victim, martin and defendant are different race, does it matter? no. h35... does it matter? absolutely not. that doesn't matter ever anywhere.... everyone agree? yes 15:24:35 victim as court read was under 18... O'Mara: approach? YES (sidebar) 15:27:49 IS EVERYONE OK TO GO ON? GO AHEAD 15:27:58 rionda: victim was under 18, does anyone believe his life is worth less because he was a minor? no. black African America, worth less? no 15:28:37 believe in right to bear arms? yes 15:28:41 who has a firearm or access to one? b35... personally own? yes. more than one? yes. target practice and hunting. what kind? caliber and shot gun. proficient? yes train in military. how often? a couple months. holster? yes. more than one? yes. internal or external? external. concealed permit? yes. 15:29:54 b76... I don't have any in our home, but we have family members that do in their own home. any experience yourself? no 15:30:12 b37.... used to have concealed weapons permit. husband wanted me to renew but I don't have a gun... no point. I can shoot a gun. we used to go out to range and shooting. basic familiarity with it 15:30:49 e6... husband has 9 millimeter, .38 and rifles... my son has a hunting rifle and bb guns. you yourself involved in firing? went to range one time and sometimes target practice with bb guns 15:31:27 e40.. brother in law has hunting rifles 15:31:38 b12.... fired a gun one time in my life and fell on my but, my son has gun and my mom and sister 15:31:57 m75.... my brother in law has 2 guns, a .38 and another handgun. shooting with him? no... goes with my sister and daughter 15:32:25 b61 repeat? do you have a firearm or have access to one. 15:32:37 ever fired a gun... recreational... 15:32:49 b7 my father has some. 15:33:03 e22... good friend has a firearm 15:33:09 e13... my step dad has a few, went and fired once 15:33:20 b86.... fired one once 15:33:43 k80.... yes own firearms... fired before? yes. familiar. own one yourself and carry with holster? no. no concealed weapons 15:34:10 k95.... I do and my son does. 15:34:17 p67... no I don't 15:34:25 g66... yes I have a .32. fire on occasion? periodically. holster? no 15:34:46 i44... hand gun. fire yourself? yes 15:35:00 i33... rifles. shooting purposes? hunting 15:35:16 i24.... handguns. revolver? yes 15:35:26 i19.... my father has them for hunting.. shoot yourself? no 15:35:38 h86... my brother in law has several. shot yourself? yes. handgun and a rifle. know the difference between semi-automatic and revolver? yes 15:36:07 h81... go to range, but don't shoot my own guns 15:36:22 (juror number) .. mom has one 15:36:29 h29...... I have daughters, so I have shot guns.... revolver and rifle 15:36:48 h18... I do. 15:36:57 h7... yes I do. member of nra? yes. anybody else? no 15:37:08 h6... father owns numerous guns and I've gone with him to the range 15:37:34 have guns or are familiar, responsibility with having one? yes. believe than h7? absolutely. everyone agree with him? yes 15:37:55 agree with that i44? yes. 15:38:01 anybody not agree? everyone agrees 15:38:12 defendant charged with murder in second degree, haven't heard evidence I don't want opinion, but can you follow a law...state has to prove victim is dead, the death was caused by criminal act of Zimmerman, and unlawful killing of martin by an act dangerous to another in a depraved mind without regard to human life.... act includes series of related to.... immanently dangerous to a deprived mind if an act that a person of ordinary judgment was known to seriously kill or done from ill will or of such nature it indicates indifferent to human life... follow that? yes. 15:40:11 not necessary for state to prove intent... 15:40:28 doesn't require certain number of shots or motive 15:40:46 understand there can be defenses to crimes, understand? yes 15:41:10 insanity or self-defense... justifiable use of deadly force...follow instruction about that? yes. 15:41:38 last week and this week about media and publicity and hardship... most of you heard that both sides expect trial to last 2-4 weeks....jury will be sequestered... family member p67... letter that it would be hardship. in addition to what you said? yes. anybody else in that predicament? b61: can you explain sequestered 15:43:42 housed together, but interaction with others will be limited.... won't be able to go home at night. contact with outside world limited. have some contact, court will give instructions about that... monitored contact. 15:45:36 b7... first time I heard about it.... I have questions that are.... 15:45:48 e6... I didn't realize, does that include weekends... YES ENTIRE TIME OF TRIAL. ok.... 15:46:11 b37: you have some contact with family. ALL THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED LATER, WILL HAVE CONTACT BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED.. WILL HAVE CONTACT 15:46:37 b6... include telephone calls can they visit? ALLOWED TO VISIT, LIMITED AS TO TIME...LIMITED PHONE CONTACT... emails? YES IT WILL BE LIMITED. YOU WON'T BE CUT OFF FROM FAMILY, STAYING IN A FACILITY, HOTEL IN THE AREA AND ALL MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED AND TRANSPORTATION AND PERSON NEEDS DURING THE TRIAL. 15:47:38 k80: if this group is sequestered where we can't return to our homes, will this case be 7 days a week? NO. so everyone gets to go home on weekends but we can't? CORRECT. PLANNED ACTIVITIES FOR YOU, THERE WILL BE MEALS... I MEAN ITS... MORE WILL BE EXPLAINED 15:48:29 rionda: attorneys and court will be busy with other matters, were not going on vacation for the weekend 15:49:01 can all of you agree since you haven't heard evidence you have to keep open mind? yes. understand that part of process is that decision needs to be unanimous? yes. 15:49:31 haven't heard evidence, presuming defendant innocent? yes. use common sense and evidence for decision? yes. could you convict him if evidence showed he was guilty? yes. and opposite? yes 15:50:11 people should be held responsible and accountable for actions? yes. picked as juror and evaluating evidence, use god given common sense to get verdict that speaks the truth? yes. 15:50:40 I'm going to sit down.... but before I do... any matter that you think you need to bring to my attention? collective no. thank you very much 15:51:16 15 MINUTE... O'Mara: approach. YES (sidebar) 15:56:15 how long will we have to get our stuff in order... I WILL TELL YOU WHEN SELECTED ON JURY 15:56:34 b61: questionnaire did that say anything about sequestering. YES IT DID... ITS NOT AS LONG AS INDICATED 15:57:04 ITS BEEN A LONG DAY AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE O'MARA BEGIN VOIR DIRE AND KEEP YOU LATE AND HAVE SPLIT IT UP... RELEASE FOR THE NIGHT. COME BACK AT 9 AM. NOT TO READ OR LISTEN TO RADIO OR TV REPORTS, NOT TO DISCUSS CASE. NOT TO USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO GET ON INTERNET. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES ABOUT CASE. ASSURANCE YOU WILL ABIDE? yes. ANY ISSUE... PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. P67...INDICATED MAYBE HAVING THINGS TO DISCUSS, PLEASE REMAIN AND WILL DISCUSS AFTER THAT. EVERYONE ELSE AT A QUARTER TO 9 AM. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 15:59:54 COMFORTABLE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. 16:00:01 rionda: P67 letter from a family member? my wife wrote about it. trouble to serve? yes. tell us more? don't tell us where you work, but the media has rights to be present. work related? yes. express in letter? yes. wife wrote letter because she's more fluent in English? yes. had her write it because she could say it better? part for her and part for me she's worried about the situation. create hardship with wife and monetary? yes. like lately my little one I don't know what she heard in the news, lately she's been living with me thinking somebody is going to get me. also nice to discover how much she loves me 16:02:28 would that in your opinion impact you to pay attention? yes. of course. anything else you want to say to judge about that? that's all. just about my family. oh the other thing, the leveling or title... been things in media that my wife and older kids.. for example: media ask a resident or citizen or Hispanic, but then don't like how media express or a nickname all over the internet. media put your name on the internet or a certain way? yes. how did you find out? my wife found out through internet and my two biggest ones. they wanted to know what's going on with dad. your wife and kids saw on internet and alerted you and you said you didn't want to talk about it? yeah. impact on your kid and wife? yes. concern about that as a result? yes. interfere with paying attention? yes. 16:05:02 O'Mara: minor concerns and I want to see if they stack... media? yes. media in court room prohibited from putting you on camera... I am, but you are not... they can't put your face or information... not public, understand that? yes sir. concern to be they have identified you by some descriptors, like a white female whatever... and you they described as well? yes. concerned by a term the way the described you? I prefer they call me a resident or citizen or Hispanic. the other one telling my kids or wife..... something else on the internet? told me they saw "Mexican". concern to be Mexican than resident? yes. 16:07:22 sounds like they were labeling you? yes which I'm not happy about.... I represent the system, we apologize about any insensitivity from the media... as juror you're being exposed to that in a profile case its unavoidable... not sure we can un-do that.... maybe media will learn lesson to be culturally sensitive. 16:08:17 30 days your employer doesn't need to pay you? that's a part of it 16:08:28 about the service and the jury I noticed a couple things, seemed to me you were looking forward to it as a citizen, feel that way still? yes, but if it takes this long... issues. I was thinking 2-3 weeks, yeah let's get it done... without guessing too much we may start Monday.... last 2-4 weeks and then you deliberate and we'd be done.... timeline put out there now.... 16:09:38 mention that because of the publicity, your little ones was wrapping arms around your leg... a loss for you and family temporarily if here with us... such imposition that it is insurmountable, you can't do it for destroying purposes? my family will be destroyed. if not to that level... hoping you would consider it... inconvenient for you, accomplish if we ask you to, 2-4 weeks? definite inconvenience. not trying to minimize that, but as citizens as we take on the role of doing everything, there's not much more asked of our citizens but war and ask them to serve on jurors... 16:12:04 if we ask you, is it something that you can accomplish even past its inconvenience? 16:12:34 judge will clear up the confusion, but in sequestration being with us you will have contact with family, telephone monitored, visits with family members monitored... not in prison but in situation where you maintain contact but supervised way to protect process...any questions that I can help answer for you to make decision to sit as juror 16:13:54 I just want to you to consider my situation. if pick you can you sit with us? if that's the only option I guess... well you can say no, but if it's an inconvenience, say yes... if it's because of destruction than you can't.... call is yours. if you can under what we talked about.... I just can't with consequences coming if over 4 weeks. I don't want to end up on the street. if I was single, it wouldn't be a problem. 16:15:09 rionda: the media itself or the internet with comments? they saw on internet, I don't know where.... EXCUSED FOR EVENING, SEE YOU TOMORROW IN THE MORNING. 16:15:44 PLEASE BE SEATED, COUNCIL COME TO BENCH..(sidebar) 16:16:22 COURT RECESS FOR THE DAY ====================================
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL POOL 061913 P2
INT BROLL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRAYVON MARTIN TRIAL / SWITCHED POOL FEED **NOTE: JUDGE'S COMMENTS IN CAPS **NAMES OF WITNESSES IN RED **VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS IN (PARENTHESES) **GOOD STATEMENTS/VIDEO BOLD 8:58:37 (Zimmerman enters, tan suit blue shirt and brown tie) (court rearranged differently) 9:00:12 PLEASE BE SEATED, GOOD MORNING. ON THE RECORD. ONE JUROR IS A FEW MINUTES LATE, WAIT FOR THEM. COUNCIL APPROACH FOR ONE MOMENT 9:00:59 (sidebar) 9:09:51 RECESS UNTIL THE POTENTIAL JURORS GET HERE 9:10:08 COURT IN RECESS ============================ 9:27:02 ATTORNEYS REQUEST THE FRYE HEARING BE TOMORROW AT 2. (sidebar) 9:31:03 deputy: jurors are present 9:32:36 PLEASE BE SEATED. GOOD MORNING... BEGIN WHATS REALLY THE JURY SELECTION, BEFORE WAS PRE SELECTION PROCESS... INSTRUCTIONS: IN ORDER TO HAVE FAIR TRIAL, RULES JURY MUST FOLLOW. MUST DECIDE CASE ON EVIDENCE IN COURT. DON'T COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CASE. DO NOT DISCLOSE YOUR THOUGHTS OR ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO DECIDE. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES OR COMMUTERS TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS CASE. DO NOT SEND OR ACCEPT MESSAGES ABOUT THIS CASE. MUST NOT DO RESEARCH THAT MAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CASE. APPLIES IN COURT HOUSE, SEQUESTRATION, OR ANY WHERE ELSE. DEPENDING ON YOU TO FOLLOW RULES FOR A FAIR TRIAL. INVESTIGATE OR RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, NO WAY TO ASSURE THEY ARE PROPER OR RELEVANT TO CASE. NO OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE EVIDENCE. BECOME AWARE OF VIOLATIONS OF INSTRUCTIONS, MUST TELL ME BY NOTE FROM COURT DEPUTY. 9:35:40 GOING TO BEGIN JURY SELECTION PROCESS, KNOWN AS VOIR DIRE. PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE IF THE DECISION WOULD BE FAIR BASED ON EVIDENCE WITHOUT INFLUENCE FROM OUTSIDE FACTORS. NOT FOR PURPOSE OF PRYING INTO AFFAIRS... 9:36:27 CHARGES SET FORTH FOR ZIMMERMAN.... EVERY PERSON ACCUSED IS TO KNOW THE EXACT CHARGE. STATE OF FLORIDA VS. ZIMEMRMAN 12CF10838A COUNT 1 MURDER IN SECOND DEGREE. ON FEB. 26, 2012 ZIMMERMAN UNLAWFULLY KILLED MARTIN UNDER THE AGE OF 18, SHOOTING VICTIM. ZIMMERMAN CARRIED DISPLAYED USED ATTEMPT TO USE FIREARM. AS RESULT OF DEATH, INFLICTED UPON ANY PERSON.......... 9:38:13 INTRODUCED TO PARTICIPANTS OF THIS TRIAL. ARE ANY OF YOU RELATED TO ATTORNEYS OR ZIMMERMAN? NO HANDS ARE BEING RAISED 9:38:37 HANDED A LIST OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES IN THE CASE. IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY NAMES PLEASE CIRCLE THEM. MANY MORE NAMES LISTED THAN ACTUALLY CALLED... REVIEW THAT. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY INDIVIDUALS... ASK YOU TO TELL US WHAT PAGE AND WHAT NUMBER THEY ARE OR THEIR INITIALS. DONE READING, PLEASE LOOK UP. 9:46:19 SHOW OF HANDS BY FIRST ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE WITNESS NAMES? 9:46:46 (couldn't hear the juror number) ANYONE ON FRONT PAGE YOU RECOGNIZE? first page. HOW MANY? 2. they're both d's. FIRST NAME? j and d. first and fourth d. ATTORNEYS WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST? no. 9:48:06 SECOND ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE NAMES? B61? HOW MANY? just 1, perhaps the last page the first one. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND ROW? G63? HOW MANY? 2. WHAT PAGE? second page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? j. initial of first name? c. 5 OR 6TH DOWN FROM J's? 1 of them. the 5th. WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? last page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? w. INITIAL OF FIRST NAME? e. FIRST WD OR LAST WD? I only see one. oh it's the first. 9:50:14 ANYBODY ELSE? ON THE THIRD ROW? JUROR i33? WHO BY PAGE? first page last name b, first name c. THE LAST B? yes. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST YOU RECOGNIZE? number 32, last c. CB? correct. last page...last name w, first name n. OK. I do have one more. last name z first name s. OK, COVER ALL OF THOSE? yes. 9:52:21 ANYBODY ELSE? JUROR E6. on last page, last name w first name n and last name z and first name s. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9:53:20 rionda: good morning... introduce myself to you all. reviewing why this is important 9:55:11 spent last week and first two days of this week going through the process, asked all of you questions related to case regarding publicity. individual so it didn't contaminate other juror's knowledge. important at arriving a decision comes from this court room. agree? yes. issue with that, outside of courtroom can't factor into decision? 9:56:18 what you saw or read from media is irrelevant. now in stage 2. question you individually and collectively about this case or background stuff about you 9:56:45 assure us that you will give consideration to all questions asked? yes 9:56:59 if during this process I ask individually or as a group and you feel uncomfortable talking about it in a group, let us know.... 9:57:41 juror b7? correct. do you want us to bring up issues about that and the time of the question? yes sir 9:58:06 were trying to get a jury that speaks the truth and arrive at just verdict 9:58:20 some of you were talked to last week and others were Monday and Tuesday... anyone go home and celebrate going through to next round? nobody? 9:58:42 appreciate you've taken this time already. 9:58:59 juror b12.... as talked about individually, how long resident of Seminole county? at least 40 years. how long have you lived at current address? 19 years. live in state of Florida before that? Michigan. left there when I was 9. married? no. divorced? yes. how long married before divorce? a yr. what does former spouse do for living? he's dead. children? 2. how old? 32 and 19. what do they do for living? one's a full time student and the other one owns his own company. medical field and construction worker. how long have you been at current employer? since October. before that? home health nurse. how long? 5 years. supervise people in that position? no. before that? CNA. how long total? 5 years. members or involved in organizations at all? volunteer work for moose lodge and my church. how long, long time? yeah. 10:02:51 leadership position? no anymore. prior experience? no. outside work and volunteering, anything else? raising my daughter, I'm a mother. any other hobbies? part of red hat society. I like my wine and going to the beach. served on jury before? no. just don't like the media being there.... that takes away his privileges, they put everything everywhere.... 10:05:31 b29... originally from Chicago? yes. grew up there? yes. married? yes. how long? 10 years. kids, yes? lots. how many? 8. under age of 18? one is over 18. how old is that one? going to be 20. live with you and husband? resides with me now. going to school or working? arrived a few weeks ago, looking for work 10:06:32 how long at employment? 3 months. prior to that? CNA. how long? 7 years. member of organization? my house. military service? no. spend time outside work, but I know answer and what you're passionate about? kids. jury service? no. 10:07:34 b76... how long in Seminole? since 1995. how long at current address? 1 week. prior to that? another address. originally from? been here since 1966. marital status? married. how long? 30 years. children? 2. how old? 28 attorney, 26 CNA. does your son practice in Seminole? yes. what practice? not criminal, foreclosures, bankruptcies, divorce, and contract. ever practiced criminal law? no. 10:08:59 picked as jury and they haven't talked about law and you can't call your son and ask him? yes I understand. 10:09:25 how long at current place of employment? unemployed. prior? husband and I had construction company. how long? 15 yes. husband still involved in that business? no. helping out children built their home. manage rental properties. involvement? I rescue a lot of pets. how long? a long time. military service? no. outside house? managing properties and rescuing animals. passion? rescuing animals. prior jury service? no 10:10:43 b7.... living in Seminole? between orange and Seminole 30 years. born and raised in Florida. married? yes. how long? 10 years. what does spouse do? just got out of school to be a teacher. kids? no. current occupation? 11 years. any management duties? I will. tell us about that? going to be elite position among others in similar roles. how many will you supervise? just 2-3. member in organization? I'm sure I am through her. military service? no. outside work? watch sports... love video games. socialize with friends go out to bar. passion? not passionate about a lot of stuff. ever served as juror? I have. how long ago? before I was working at current job, 12-15 years. Seminole or orange? Seminole. criminal or civil? criminal. reach a verdict? yes. fore person? no. enjoy it? I did. it was one day. 10:13:37 b35.... how long in Seminole? since 1985. current address? 12 yes. marital status? married. how long? going on 20+ years. what does spouse do? local TV. is she a reporter? no. comments I made about media you won't hold against me. 10:14:24 any kids? yes. 1 son in college now. what is he studying? engineering. current occupation, how long? I manage tax office in the year, vending machines and rental... for about 7 years... before that? properties around central Florida. member in organization? fraternity and football coach. how long? 13 years. military service? yes Marine Corp Reserves. how long? 6 years. military police? no. how do you spend time out of work? watching sports, coaching, spending time together. 10:16:07 real passion in life? coaching football.... served as juror? no 10:16:19 b37.... Seminole county? 18 years. prior? dad was air force captain. born in California, but went from coast to other. married? yes. 20 years. spouse job? space attorney... rockets and space craft. how long has that been a specialty? always... since he graduated. corporate attorney? yes. practice criminal law? no. would that influence you? no he wouldn't answer me. kids? 24, pet groomer, 27 at ucf. how long at employment? 16 years. management position? now I am, converted because girl before retired. ever settle disputes? no, there's only 3 of us.. were a family. organizations? involved in rescue groups, got out because I couldn't take more animals. do you know the other juror? I do not. 10:19:08 does anybody know any other jurors here? 10:19:15 military service? no. outside, I know. jury service? called 4 times... excluded from last one because of where I work. 10:19:41 b51.... how are you? good. Seminole? 9 years. originally? orange county. central Florida? since 1987. before? Atlanta. married? no. kids? no. grand kids? no. employment? retired. retired from what work? real estate.. several careers? I have. prior to that? director of call center. how long? 10 years. managerial duties? direct reports and 1200 employees. resolve disputes? often. how? listen to all sides and make tough calls. 10:21:11 member of any organizations? no. just enjoying retirement? yes. in military? I wasn't. for fun? driving back and forth to Jacksonville... elderly parents, lots of brothers and sisters. jury service? yes, one was in Seminole county 3 years ago... called case before we were called. another one in orange county in 1991, I was an alternate. 10:22:20 b86... how long a resident? 1989. before that? 1971 in orange county. marital status? single. kids? 2. 20 and 21... full time student and trying to get the other one back in school, he was ill. the one in school, what does he want to be? childhood specialist. how long in employment? 10 years. member in organizations? not any more, once at birds of prey... worked in church with youth group. in military? no. jury service? 10:24:24 e6.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange. how long? since 2004. originally? Brevard. marital status? married. what does spouse do? engineer. how long married? 6 years. kids? 2, 11 and 13. current occupation? unemployed. 9 months before that and prior to that I was in school and raising kids. what filed before? financial services. member in organization? member of church and I used to volunteer at kids school 10:25:44 military? no. how do you spend time outside of work? taking care of kids, dogs, helping with the friends young kids, gardening. prior jury service? no, called but never... 10:26:09 e40... Seminole county? 7 months. before that? Iowa. how long? 2 years. before that? California. come to Florida to retire? came to work in Florida. what do you do? safety officer. how long? over 25 years. marital status? married. spouse living? chemical engineer. kids? 1 son, 28 looking for work. prior to that? he was working in western Pennsylvania in fast food service. organization? no. military? no. fun? travel, read, and sports. any particular? all but football mainly. prior jury service? yes I have served. in Pennsylvania. criminal or civil? drug dealing 10:28:14 go back and deliberate? yes. reach verdict? we were. forewoman? I was not. enjoy experience? I did 10:28:30 e54... how long in Seminole? 14 years. before that? orange. since I was 8. marital status? married for 5 years. spouse? engineering technician. kids? two step children, 16 living with us and the other is late 20s. how long working there? 3 years. before that? same field for 30 years. member involved in organizations? no. military? no. fun? reading, working on family tree, playing golf. where's family from originally? Maryland 10:29:58 passions I guess? it was for a while, now that we finished it's on the side 10:30:09 jury service? summoned but never sat 10:30:18 e73... Seminole? 13 years. prior? new jersey. grow up there? I did not. grew up? new York. current address? 13 years. marital status? married. how long? 33 years. spouse? retired. prior to that? telecommunications firm. kids? yes. how many? 2. how old and what they do? 15 on Sunday, 18. still in school? going to college. what he wants to do? I don't think he's there yet 10:31:34 retired or working? consultant. how long? 10 years. before that? large telecommunications firm. where your husband worked? yes. meet there? we did. organizations? not currently. before? various arts councils. military? no. fun? going to sporting events, children active in sports... make jewelry, read, I love the beach 10:32:28 prior jury service? yes. here in Seminole? 3 times in Seminole, once for federal court and once in Ohio. served 5 times? yes. enjoy it? not always. Ohio, criminal or civil? civil I think. deliberate? settled out of court after 5 days. federal? criminal. deliberate? I didn't get seated on jury. three here, criminal or civil? first was civil and I didn't do anything. next was criminal settled out of court, next one I didn't get seated. 10:34:16 m75.... how long in Seminole? since 2001. before that? new York. grow up there? yes. lived in current address? 2 months. prior to that? still in Seminole, just different space. married or single? single. kids? no. work? 2 months. prior? travel agent for cruise. how long? 1 year. before that? theme parks in Orlando. how long? almost 2 years. what did you do? guest service attendant moved to cashier and food service. member of organization? not currently, used to volunteer at animal shelter. military? no. fun? large family, visit with them. military service? no 10:36:22 b61... how long in Seminole? 5 years. current address for? 4 years. prior? orange, Volusia, army brat. marital status? married. how long? 2 months. husband? full time student. engineer. kids? no. engineer too? yes. how long? 7 years. member of organizations? church, professional society, and sorority. leadership? I have, but not now. military? no. fun? studying, reading and spending time with family. studying to be? for an exam. prior jury service? no 10:38:00 b72.... how long resident? 9 years. originally? Chicago. marital status? single. kids? no. work? coming to a year. same field but different job? yes. involved in organizations? alumni of fraternity. leadership? vice president of local chapter but I wouldn't say so. military? no. fun? arm wrestling, going to gym.... one arm pull up. how long? 2.5 years. wrestling in high school? weight lift, track, football 2 years. meets to arm wrestle? depends on venue, encompasses everything... I could talk about it all day 10:40:00 prior jury service? no 10:40:05 e22... how long in Seminole? 12 years. prior? orange. grow in central Florida? only since 92. up north? spend a lot of time there. married? single. kids? no. work? 19 years. organizations? social service with employer. military? no. spend time out of work? gardening, all things food. passionate about? yeah. jury service? called in asocial but didn't serve 10:41:34 e13.... how long in Seminole? 17 years. marital status? single. kids? no. how long have you been doing that? surgical assistant for 2 years. member of organizations? church. military? no. outside work? horses. passion is riding? yes. jury service? no 10:42:33 e28.... how long Seminole? 1985. before that? Texas. originally from? yes. marital? married for 28 years, 2 children... 27 and 23 work for theme park and hotel side of it. spouse do? teacher. work? 26 years. members? professional, relay for life. how you spend time out of work? yes. jury? summoned for federal, never called and served in Texas... read verdict? yes. deliberate? yes. forewoman? no. enjoy that? yes I did 10:44:16 k80... Seminole county? 2004. before? Virginia. grew up there? most of life. marital status? 15 years... spouse? maintenance tech. kids? 2. two girls. under 18? yes. work? over 5 years, same line of work for 15 years. member of organizations? attend church regularly, girl scouts, soccer. military? family members, father was navy grandfathers and cousins. fun? work absorbs time and then children. jury service? no first time 10:45:49 k95... how long in Seminole? 16 years. before that? orange for 7 and manatee for 4. marital? married. 15 years. spouse? electrician. kids? yes. how old? daughter that's 24, son that'll be 14, and a grandson. daughter? internship to be a dental hygienist. work? consultant, used to own company for 7 years. same industry for 10 10:46:51 member of organizations? yeah, ptk. pbl. fbi. Alzheimer's association, autism speaks and march of dimes. military? no. jury service? no 10:47:22 p67... why we can't do this in private... is there a way? do in private with nobody else? approach bench? VOIR DIRE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC FORM. YOU CAN APPROACH. your name is private if that's what you're worried about. I just don't want the media to put labels on me like finding something else. JURY SELECTION PROCESS HAS TO BE OPEN COURT, OPEN TO PUBLIC...ZIMMERMAN HAS RIGHT TO BE THERE, ATTORNEYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE... REMOVE OTHER JURY MEMBERS, WILL NOT CLEAR THE COURT ROOM... MAYBE A QUESTION ASKED THAT IS SENSITIVE NATURE TO YOU THAT I CAN'T CLEAR THE COURT ROOM, BUT I CAN DO IT OUTSIDE PRESENCE OF OTHER MEMBERS. 10:49:51 from where? been here since 2008. Seminole county how long? since 2008. before that? moved from Chicago. before that, originally? Mexico. how long in US? since I was 18 years old. married? yes. how long? about 20 years. kids? yes. how old? 18, and 16 and 11. still in school? just out of high school. work for how long? since 2008. involved in organizations? church. military? no. fun? helping wife, kids and watching sports. first time in jury? yes. looking forward to it? looking to have a nice experience, but it's been a nightmare. every day something is different. if it's going to affect my family I'm not looking forward to it...still feel it's a hardship for you? absolutely 10:52:34 g14... how long in Seminole? once before and recently from 2005 to now. grew up and moved out? no dad in military. marital status? divorced. former spouse? does not work at this time. what did he do? assembly. kids? 2 boys. 12 and 15. work? 3 years. before? sold print advertising. how long? 1996 to 2010. involved in organizations? boy scouts. how long? 6 years. military service? I have not been, but family. spend time outside work? boy scouts, taking care of my boys and reading. jury? summoned 2 other times, but never seated on jury 10:54:22 g29... Seminole county? 9 months. before that? in orange county. marital? single. kids? no. work? almost 6 years. before that? same field for total over 14 years. member of organizations? no. military? no. fun? friends and family and sports and TV. jury service? summoned in orange but never on jury 10:55:33 g47.... how long in Seminole? under 9 years. before? Boston, MA. marital? single. kids? nope. current job, how long? since October. before that? unemployed. member with organization? no. military? none. fun? sports friends beer. jury service? once, but it was settled 10:56:24 g63..... how long in Seminole? 4 years. before? orange. martial? single. kids? no. unemployed now, before that? teaching assistant and student. major? mathematics. member of any organizations? no. military service? no. fun? chess, Olympic weightlifting, piano. how long Olympic? a year. jury? no 10:57:40 g66.... Seminole? 2 years. prior? 12 years in Madison. prior to that? Chicago. marital? widow. spouse? mechanic for trucks. kids? 2 daughters. oldest is 36 works for entertainment company. 32 year old works for entertainment lighting... how long you work? retired. prior? at hospitals. financial advisor. member of organizations? started riding with Care Takers... motorcycle club. military? no. outside work? ride with my boyfriend, fish, spend time with family. what does boyfriend do? he sails. jury service? once in Chicago... alternate 10:59:45 g81.... how long in Seminole? 16 years. marital status? married. how long? 19 years. spouse? administrative assistant. how long? 19 years. member in organizations? professional. military service? no. fun? golf, travel, sports. prior service? no. 11:00:37 h6... Seminole? 1.5 years. prior? orange and Colorado. in Florida? since 2004. married? no. kids? no. current job? 5 months. prior to that? same line of work, but in it for 7 years now. member involved in organizations? no. military service? no. fun? relax... jury service? yes. in Seminole or others? orange. 2 years ago. criminal case. deliberate? yes. verdict? on most charges. foreman? no 11:02:04 h7.... in Seminole? 27 years, before Illinois, before Texas. married 44 years. 2 children ones 41 in Ireland. 39 in el Paso. spouse? weight watchers councilor for 25 years takes care of house. job? 40 years. member of organizations? professional associations, boy scouts for 35 years, instructor for merit badges, wife and I will have a small nursery. prior jury service? 1 in Seminole criminal case, foreperson we reached a verdict. 11:03:30 h18.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange county for almost a year. overseas before? yes. how long? 1996. marital status? going through divorce. kids? 1. girl is 7. job? in that field since I got to Florida, before that......... overseas in military? army and then contractor for defense company...involved in any organizations? no. fun? gym, tennis, swimming, with my daughter. jury service? no 11:05:05 h29... resident of Seminole? over 30 years, and orange... army brat. marital status? divorced. spouse? school teacher. kids? yeah 2 daughters, 28 and 30 year old... working with UCF and the other is handicapped. work? 30 years. member? professional and served on local city board for 15 years... leadership? yes. military? I also served too. how long? 4 years. military police? no. fun? beach, tennis... beer. jury service? summoned once 15 years ago... never sat 11:07:11 h18... military police? no 11:07:17 h35... Seminole? 24 years. martial? married. how long? 5 years. spouse? unemployed. before? lawn service. kids? no. job? unemployed taking care of grandfather before. member of organizations? was in 2010. military? no. spend time for fun? beach. jury service? no 11:08:17 h81... how long in Seminole? since 2000. prior to that? Pennsylvania. marital status? 31 years. spouse? supervisor at hotel. kids? 25 year old daughter in marketing son in navy. work? 25 years. member of organizations? 1 professional. military? no. fun? family and discovering cool internet technologies. jury service? yes. in Seminole criminal case. verdict? yes. foreman? no 11:09:39 h69... resident of Seminole? 21 years. marital status? married. how long? 11 months. spouse? technician with bright house. work? a year and 8 months. before that in school? IRA company. member of any organizations? church, human resources. military? no. fun? usually with mom or dad. prior jury service? no. 11:10:43 h86.... Seminole? born and raised. married? no. kids? no. job? 6 months. before? technician. organizations? professional and church. military? no. fun? volunteer and with family. jury? summoned, but away for school 11:11:37 i5.... how long in Seminole? 13 years. before that? Alaska for 27 years. what were you doing? working, originally in military, 7 years and then discharged work for financial... married? yes. spouse? auditor. kids? yes. 3. what do they do? oldest son is 40 worked for grocery chain, out in California. daughter is 38 works for utility company and my youngest works for IT group. work? almost 40 years. member of any organizations outside? no all professional. military police? no. fun? watching sports on TV, hang with friends, I like working with computers..... jury service? yes. Seminole or elsewhere? 2 assignments here in Seminole and when I lived in Alaska I think I had 4. 2 here, deliberate? just 1. criminal or civil? DWI. we deliberated. verdict? yes. foreman? yes. 4 in Alaska and deliberate all of them? yes. criminal or civil? all civil. foreman on 1 of them. reach verdict on all 4? yes. enjoy experiences? looking back I did... when I was on it I didn't 11:14:48 i19.... resident in Seminole? 3 years. before? orange. marital status? single. kids? no. work? 1 year. before that? retail. organizations? no. military? no. fun? school. health service admin. jury? no 11:15:36 i24... how long in Seminole? 1968. marital status? married. shy of 39 years. spouse? he is a coordinator transportation for theme park. kids? 29 athletic trainer, 22 student, 29 installer. student, studying? psychology. work? just shy of 42 years. organizations? no. military? no. fun? sports work in yard, beach, hit the road and go to mountains. jury? summoned once but never had to 11:17:09 i33... resident in Seminole? 30 years. marital? married. spouse? account manager. kids? no. work? searching for new career. how long in field before? 44 years. member in organization? yes. what kind? environmental advocacy and county board. how long? just over a year. military service? no. fun? small farm and enjoy offshore competition fishing. jury service? no. 11:18:29 i44... resident in Seminole? 2 years but 25 in orange. marital status? married. spouse? RN. kids? 3, 10, 12, and 9 month son. work? 12 years. field? before that in theme park industry. involved in organizations? Florida barbecue association. military service? no. fun? family raising little one. jury service? 4 years ago orange I was alternate 11:20:17 15 MINUTE RECESS, FOLLOW JARVIS OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. ================================================================ 11:41:13 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. approach? YES (sidebar) 11:42:19 jurors are present 11:43:26 PLEASE BE SEATED... RIONDA YOU MAY CONTINUE 11:43:39 group questions... and then individual too... sit here today, give the defendant a fair trial? yes. give the state a fair trial? yes. give both sides fair? yes. issue? believe both sides do not deserve fair trial? defendant and stat fair trial? yes 11:44:32 state has to prove defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. it's the law. court will give you instructions. states burden, understand? yes. states prove crime was committed and defendant did it? yes. 11:45:18 read like what it is not... a reasonable doubt is not forced, imaginary, speculative... must have reason for that doubt. not to a mathematical certainty, not absolute? yes 11:46:11 believe the burden should be higher than reasonable doubt, like perfection? 11:46:34 sit here today, do you all understand concept/law talks about presumption of innocence. this defendant is presumed innocent, understand? yes. not innocent, but presumed innocent? yes. abide by that? yes. 11:47:23 live in greatest country of world and our criminal justice allows for a trial. no matter what the charge, state has burden. understand? yes. trial is the way? yes 11:47:56 defendant has no obligation? yes. how do you render a verdict? court will give instructions on how to do that. rely on facts and law and also in the process you use common sense in arriving in verdict. 11:48:45 law also says you don't speculate... not allowed in arriving in verdict. speculation plays no role, rely on evidence. agree? yes 11:49:14 what witness says is evidence, no the questions 11:49:51 difference between real world and TV world or make believe. 11:50:08 b35... if attorney asks question of witness and the witness says no, what do you believe? what witness said. is that important? yes. why? he's the witness.. he knows what's going on 11:50:58 sympathy plays no role at all in verdict, understand? yes. 11:51:22 understand that sympathy can't be consider at all, agree? yes 11:51:32 k80... agree with that? yes. why? based off facts and not emotion 11:52:05 bias shouldn't play a role at all in arriving in verdict.... g63, do you believe people are bias to certain things? yes. sometimes about people with bald heads or whatever, people has bias? yes. agree bias shouldn't play role at all? correct. biases about how people dress, should play role? no. why? not relevant to the facts that happened. do you think were always able to pick if someone is bias? not always. how can you tell? maybe if they... if they act in a way with specific preference for something more if they didn't have any advice. 11:53:57 penalties in this case, judges job what the penalties are. m75... problem with that? no. can't consider what the penalties are, no role? I understand. I agree. 11:54:49 job is only to defend guilt or innocence? yes. will anyone consider the penalties, you can't do that, agree? yes. 11:55:12 agree with that b37... I agree. why? falls in sympathy part. shouldn't play role at all? should not 11:55:59 state proves evidence, direct evidence... circumstantial evidence.... direct is someone sees something. circumstantial is added to other piece of puzzle to prove something. 11:56:25 law allows that the state can use direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. I come home and wife tells me kid brought cookie jar and the kids say they didn't do it... no eye witness, question kids... but one has crumbs in her mouth... that's an inference to prove something else 11:57:55 i44... ever used circumstantial evidence? all the time. at work or home? at home. give me an example? who made the mess, it wasn't us. who had breakfast, both of us. what did you have... oatmeal and there's oatmeal all over the counter. 11:58:47 I used to ask who watches CSI, now I ask reverse. who hasn't heard of CSI? b7 you have not watched CSI? no. anyone else who hasn't watched? b29, b35, b86, b61, b72, e28, k95, p67, h69, h86, h29. 12:01:01 not the real world... people want to believe that's real, they expect that evidence to appear out of nowhere... that's not the real world. hold state of Florida to what they've seen on csi? E6 HAS A QUESTION.... E6: going back to circumstantial evidences... circumstances can be misleading, so does it have to be very... still proven beyond unreasonable doubt. 12:02:38 never watched any of those shows? still have a few. b29... why? I like drama. real world as opposed to make believe? yeah 12:03:14 also had in last 5 or 10 years an increase in real lawyer type shows... not the real world? 12:03:43 i5... ever watch those shows? watched them don't make sense to me. some of them may be lawyers? question integrity of them... real lawyer wouldn't do that 12:04:17 not going to determine guilt or innocence from TV? yes. b61, agree with that? yes. if they're not representing client they don't know the facts, may have special interest. 12:05:35 how people feel about attorneys, how many of you liked their commercials... love those commercials??? hold against state of Florida or omara because were attorneys? anybody? 12:06:11 we realize people come into court room with opinions? yes. all come in with opinion on things, right? yes. if people are exposed to things, how do we make sure they make their decision on evidence opposed to what opinion should be. e73, what do we do with people whit opinions? that's a tough one cause I don't know that you'd always know about their opinion. e54, question? I don't know how you can guarantee that's not going to happen... you hope they don't. agree with e73 and e54? yes 12:08:18 h29... how would you assure opinions do not factor in the decision? profile a jury, ask questions look for answers that will represent you and people that are fair. no good way to do it. everyone agree? yes. telling the truth to best of ability.... 12:09:34 can you follow the law as a group? be frank with us.. does anybody feel they cannot? anybody? no from everyone? yes sir 12:10:02 h6... agree with that? yes. how would you assure that it doesn't interfere? don't know how you find out how, but keep my opinion out of it 12:10:44 both sides get fair trial 12:11:08 b67.... too personal or it's alright? it's alright. g14? agree that sometimes we make assumptions that turn out not to be true? yes. ever done that? yes. example? meet somebody and think they're stuck up and then I would find out later they were shy. agree with g14? yes. has anyone ever been wrong about an assumption? 12:12:58 assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes sir 12:13:22 opinions and assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes 12:13:30 how do we know that happens? e40, how? check our personal values and hold others accountable and challenge if we see those bias. discrepancies raise an issue 12:14:13 attorneys, who knows any attorney? b12? yes. are they here in town? Tim Morgan. what practice? friend of his. talk to him about law? no. b76? my son. asked you that before? yes. b35? friend from hometown and friends I went to college with. civil or criminal? split. discuss law? no sir... b37? married to attorney, anybody else? attorneys from work that work on cases like personal injuries. criminal or civic? not that I'm aware of. interfere in any way? no sir. b51? neighbor. corporate lawyer... 12:17:03 e6? I know a woman in Colorado in contract law... e40? several from college, woman I rent house from is in real estate law and she's in Texas. e54? I do know people who are attorneys but I don't discuss with them. 12:17:53 e73? friends and family. criminal law? no 12:18:05 g47? friends' mother for Volusia. civil law. interfere? no. g14? I know a couple attorneys through boy scout, but I don't know criminal. no interference no. 12:18:59 k95? several from network associations, patent, tax and contract. no criminal? not that I know of. interference? no sir 12:19:23 k80? friends and legal counsel at our company. criminal? no. interference? no 12:19:43 e13? moms side of families, some attorneys? criminal? I have no idea.. influence? no 12:20:04 e22? three attorneys, all civil. interfere? no 12:20:14 b61? several from college, all civil and no interference 12:20:28 h6? know an attorney that does workers comp law. interfere? no 12:20:43 h7? department of defense, contract lawyers. nephew in environmentalism 12:20:50 h29? several from my profession. interfere? no 12:21:09 h81? I know 20-25 attorneys. criminal? a handful. discussions about the law? most involved around consumer law. interfere as juror? that wouldn't influence me 12:21:56 h86? past employers were attorneys... insight into law? no 12:22:09 i33? several lawyers both civil and criminal. interfere with decision? no. 12:22:40 anybody associated with law, judges? i33? I know a few sir... 12:23:01 interfere in any way to be a juror? no. 12:23:14 personal questions about arrest, victim of crime, if it's something you want in private let us know. need to know impact it may have. 12:24:02 front row, arrested? b12, here in Seminole? Daytona. still pending? no thrown out of court, never went. would that experience factor in to be fair juror? no. set aside? I was only 17 so yeah. feel you were treated fairly? for who I was with... hold against Florida? no. hold against Zimmerman? no. 12:25:07 b29? Chicago. still pending? it's been disposed of? yeah. interfere with you? no. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes. 12:25:36 b35? orange county. still pending? no. disposed of? yes. how long ago? 1987. unfairly treated? no. prosecuted or case dismissed? I was prosecuted. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes 12:26:24 e6? in Florida, Brevard back in 1999. pending? no. treated fairly. 12:27:13 h7? 40 years ago state of Texas. not pending? correct. treated fairly? absolutely. it was acquitted. hold against? no 12:28:04 h81? Seminole. pending? no. how long ago? yr. and a half ago. treated fairly? yes. no charges it was detained.. no charges. hold against? no 12:28:55 i33? Seminole. pending? no. treated unfairly? yes. arrested or prosecuted? both. won't hold it against anybody. what happened to your case? go to court, pay a fine. won't hold against? no sir. 12:30:00 anybody been a subject of criminal investigation? no from everybody 12:30:14 close friend arrested and you felt was treated unfairly? b7? family or close friend? close friend. pending? no. orange county. arrested unfairly. dropped? I don't know. hold against? no. 12:31:13 k95? friend in Ohio arrested and treated unfairly. pending? no. when she was incarcerated. drop charges on her? no. told by the judge she could take medicine and they didn't give to her, brought her to hospital 12:32:28 b61? someone was arrested, treated unfairly. charges were dropped. here in Florida? yes. pending? no. hold against? no. 12:33:06 A LOT OF YOU HERE.... AN HOUR ENOUGH? COME BACK AT 1:45. WHILE ON LUNCH BREAK, GO WITH EACH OTHER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THIS CASE. NO RADIO OR TV REPORTS. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES. ASSURANCE TO ABIDE BY INSTRUCTIONS? 12:34:23 COURT IN RECESS FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:45 ================================================ 13:46:07 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. DO WE HAVE THE JURORS BACK? COUNCIL APPROACH FOR JUST A MOMENT (sidebar) 14:02:46 PLEASE BE SEATED. WELCOME BACK. APPEARS TO BE HERE AND IN CORRECT PLACES. DURING LUNCH DID ANY OF YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? DID ANY OF YOU READ OR LISTEN TO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE? USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE ABOUT THE CASE? READ OR CREATE ANY THING ABOUT THE CASE? 14:03:39 rionda: welcome back. 14:04:05 h81... a friend or close family member? close friend. in Seminole? no. Pennsylvania. treated unfairly? yes. in prosecution. hold against us? I would no. interfere? it would not. 14:05:05 were you a victim of a crime that it impacted you so much you wouldn't be able to participate? 14:05:26 b76? yes. b7? yes. b86? yes. anybody else? e40? e73? second row: e22? k80? k95? last row: g81? h7? h35? h81? i33? i44? did I get everybody? 14:06:35 violent crime? e73, b86, k80, e22. 14:07:09 you have to set it aside for the purposes of this trial. agree to leave outside court room... think you cannot, raise your hand... e73? just because of the nature that happened to you? it was a very similar crime. wouldn't be able to.... set it aside? it's always in my mind. 14:08:27 anybody else? 14:08:49 victims of crime, let me broaden criteria... crime to your household, felt police did not do a good job investigating? b7. home break in. here in Seminole? it was. they didn't do a good job? they didn't investigate at all. do you think that would impact you at all in this case to sit as juror or can you set aside? no. it wasn't a big deal. agree to leave outside court? yeah. 14:10:17 in that case, were you present? I came home and scared of burglars I think. chase them? no. knew better? I didn't realize until later.... called police and they didn't respond? when I was in high school, police came and they asked what was stolen and officer asked me if any of my friends did this. ever find out who it was? no. anybody else? 14:11:31 b86... many years ago, fast food restaurant. police officer scared us more than the person who just robbed us with the gun. going to our car when gun was pulled on us, we ran back into the restaurant after guy grabbed a bag... police knocked on door and we thought it was the guy again. make him go around so we can see him. tell us you're a police officer, he said "this isn't TV". hold against? no. know who was arrested? yes. he hit us twice, finally got caught. testify? no I couldn't pick him out. 14:13:33 does anybody live in community in which there is no crime? anybody? collective no. 14:14:02 steps to address it in your neighborhood? e54... I assume there's crime in my neighborhood, not personally aware of it. 14:14:42 k95... I would put up a no soliciting sign in my neighborhood. effective? yes. anything further? no. there's a neighborhood watch. are you a part of it? no. 14:15:12 e73... we had a sudden increase in crime in neighborhood. they started a watch. join it? no, but went to a meeting. set up in uniform? no. armed? I don't think so. not involved in watch? no 14:15:54 anybody else? b76... just had teens vandalizing signs... police took care of it. we had a watch I just told them about it. any steps yourself to get involved? telling the other neighbors 14:16:30 b35...still with us... closing your eyes just want to make sure 14:16:51 b7: what was the question again. crime in community and you got involved? no. 14:17:26 feel like people have the right to take law into their own hands? anybody? i5 shaking your head.... there may be occasions, but basically I would say no. g63... crimes in neighborhood? I'm assuming? watch in your community? not that I'm aware of. your last question was very general we have governments that we authorize to do that. 14:19:17 as individuals people shouldn't. g7, agree? where is the process or a citizen's arrest. I don't know how it applies. 14:19:45 other than what law allows, try to arrest people on your own? never have. i24, ever crossed your mind to arrest someone? no but I would do something if they tried to break into my house. id protect my family 14:20:34 can everybody agree the law applies equally to everyone? yes. it should or it doesn't? 14:20:54 b7.... hear a lot about it in the news. always believe? not always. 14:21:13 law matter about which part of county? no. difference in wealth class? no. matter if gated or not? no. where they're from? no. b72, it shouldn't matter? no. why not? when you see the law, the law applies to everyone it doesn't discriminate or consider race or sex. if we use this as criteria, the whole system goes down. 14:22:26 should it matter about race gender or ethnicity? no. 14:22:53 ever been a witness and testify? g81... was it here in Seminole? no. orange. proceeding or hearing or trial? it was juvenile system, proceeding. testify? yes. treated fairly by lawyers and judge and deputies? yes I was. anything about that you felt would interfere? nothing that happened there 14:23:56 h7: I've given depositions before. was it unpleasant it would influence you? no it was not. representation from both sides and told them what I knew. told the truth as best you could remember? yes 14:25:03 h29... I've been deposed before. anything about that experience? I was on the good guy side, never got to the other side. 14:25:23 h81... deposition, hearing, trial? I've been a witness a few times... treated unfairly? no. 14:26:00 i24... I was a witness in a car accident. eye witness? yeah and we had to verify who hit who. more than one? several people. all have to come to court? no we all went to court and stood in front of judge and told her what we saw. questioning you? just the judge... 14:27:00 g63... witness for criminal trial in orange county. eye witness? I was an eye witness to nothing. still called? yes. badgered in any way by either side? no. it wasn't unpleasant it was inconvenient. impact you? no 14:27:48 k80.... witness in child custody case. in front of court? no jury, just a judge. treated fairly? yes, no badgering.. civil questions. 14:28:22 k95... federal lawsuit case, it wasn't a good experience. because of way you were treated? yes. by who? attorneys and judge. judge nelson? no. it wasn't in this state. attorneys were asking improper questions? I was told I was at an economic disadvantage. scream back at them? kept my cool and had to pay it off. terrible experience? yes. hold against? no this was business 14:29:50 e22... I've been deposed. treated fairly? yes. deposition end there or another proceeding? never went to trial. that experience that you were treated unfairly? no. 14:30:30 e6... custody trial and domestic violence... nothing about the proceedings. treated fairly? yes. impact? no. e40... witness to car accident, no jury... I was treated fairly. other people eye witness too. there when other witnesses testified? I was around... 20 years ago though. 14:31:40 all read the witness list... cover that. how you know the person and the impact of that.... 14:32:16 e6... SHES IN SEAT NUMBER 9, GIVE HER LIST. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. recognize that as yours? yes. circled two names on front page. one of them starts with d and j... professional or social? I recognize the name I don't personally know them. recognize them as physician. impact you? no it would not. also have under that name, three down from that. know the name? I don't know them personally, received referral to her for one of my children. impact? no. some on last page... last name with w recognize name or the person? just the name. impact? no. third from bottom starts with z and s? know them? no. recognize name? yes. impact? no. 14:35:16 i33.... first page, last name starts with b and first name is c. know them or recognize name? right, could be somebody that I name... I have no idea if I know them or not. assuming it's the same person you know, what do they do for a living? construction business. person you know is him? correct. with the work you do? yes. if he testified, find him more credible? no sir, not necessarily no. if it's the same person could you rely just on what they said as opposed to knowing them? absolutely. another name with a c and a b? correct. recognize? just heard the name. no impact on you? no sir. first person/ another relationship, fun thing and I see him once a year... fun thing, activity? yeah it would ID me. you interact with him though? yes sir 14:38:23 last page, last name w and n? yes. recognize or personal? recognize name. know them other than that? no. 14:38:45 toward bottom of page, z and s? recognize the name. impact? no sir 14:39:22 juror number.... second page j and c... know them? as a celebrity... not the person that were talking about here. ok? and someone else.... last page last name with w and d? how do you know them? name I think I recognize. impact? no. 14:40:29 b61.... last page, at top? yes. personal or professional? if same person it's personal but haven't seen them in 2-3 years. friends? yes. exercise together. hear them on witness stand find them more or less credible? it wouldn't impact if it were any other witness. how close, how much interaction? person in social organization, saw her a lot for a while. over a yr. or two? a couple years while I was in school. is this person still a member of that organization? yes. impact you? no 14:42:49 hear from witness, evaluate based on insurrections from court? yes. g47, depend if witness has job? no. why? irrelevant to the case. g29 does it matter if they're law enforcement? no. everyone agree? yes 14:43:37 e54 agree with that? sure 14:43:41 law allows for certain witnesses to be treated differently, experts can give opinion opposed to other witnesses. e13... agree with that? yes would say.. e28 agree? yes. why? they're experts in that field. evaluate and use instructions from court and the expertise? yes 14:44:43 b51.... agree with that? I do. why? education or experience and wouldn't call on them to discuss position or opinion without experience. ever had to rely on expert testimony? not testimony. go to expert for advice? no. anybody? b7.... rely on experts on constant basis 14:45:41 b35... agree? yes. why? practice in their field. b76 agree? yes. b12... agree? yes. why? education and school and have knowledge of that. H69 HAS QUESTIONS. h69: if attorney asked for opinion and they didn't just interject it? yes. that they asked for opinion and they didn't just interject opinion. if attorneys ask expert could you rely on his opinion? yes. why? I'm going to assume a witness researches before getting on the stand... rely on expert if both side find them to be an expert 14:47:55 in this type of case, since the trial is murder.... H86... also wondering if witness on stand only giving facts or opinions unless were asking for their opinion? right... e6... clarify to me I would believe an expert has studied and accumulated knowledge in area, but sometimes experts don't always agree even if in the same field, how is that treated? use your common sense and if it's credible. judge will give instructions about that. expert can give opinion. you can find an opinion with the one you wanted... You decide... 14:50:21 juror number..... person is an expert and we assume they are.. court will give you a ruling on that. expert is entitled to give opinion. if a juror finds a person is qualified as expert they don't have to accept that opinion. you would hear their qualifications and make that determination. 14:51:44 exposed to photos you've never been exposed to, problem looking at photos? does everyone understand the question? ok? yes 14:52:29 b37 you're fine with that... yes. b35.. yes 14:52:39 everyone else agree? yes 14:52:44 law enforcement experience? nobody. h86? not myself, but two aunts and uncles who are lieutenants. 14:53:19 h86, family in law enforcement? yes. departments here in Seminole? I believe it's orange. discuss matters with them about justice system? in the past I have. impact your decision? no. how extensive, more than 1? 3 family members. close with them? 2 of them. interact on weekly basis? yes. uniform? yes. how long in field? over 20 years. look up to them for advice? in general, yes. pursue law enforcement career? no. 14:54:37 k95... when you say law enforcement, but 40 years ago I worked in retail where I used to watch shop lifters... watched them and recorded them. apprehend them? no. I just do my job and report to manager.... someone else would apprehend? yes. successful? yes. how? bust a lot of my sisters friends. 14:55:50 anybody else I overlooked... i24? sort of in same situation... I didn't catch them. I did translation when they did get caught and they didn't speak English. for a company who had a lot of guests who got caught shop lifting. what language? Portuguese. several years? quite a lot. enjoy it? yes. anything that would interfere? no. k95... anything that would interfere? no 14:57:01 anybody else? k80.... family members. tell me? uncle who was in SWAT and cousin is NCIS agent. occasions to discuss with them? no. there are stories after the fact. interfere? no 14:57:42 b35.... family members mom worked for sheriff's department and cousins in police in Titusville. see them regularly? once or twice a year. discussions about job? 14:58:14 how come you didn't join department? first not to go into law enforcement because I went to school. not exciting enough? make a little more money and wanted to do my own thing. impact you one way or another? no. more incline to favor police officer? no 14:59:05 b7.... law enforcement, my wife used to work in the field, often had discussions about it. her job and dealing with victims? absolutely. how do you feel about that, would it impact you here? no. it was a while ago. in this case you have a victim, favor state in this case? no. wouldn't impact you? not when I last served on jury 15:00:13 b86... I used to do transcription for private investigator... a while ago? 15 yes ago in orange. former officer? yeah. record and you would transcribe? yes. impact favoring? no. 15:00:54 e6... include close friends? anybody important for us to know about.... family friend he was SWAT detective... he just left the force and went into private sector but served almost 17 years... impact your opinion? no 15:01:41 b12.... my dad was a Syracuse cop and my nephew is FBI agent. anything about nature of that would favor one side? no. 15:02:36 h69... any family member? yeah. cousin who works for government.... she's working with homeland security... opportunities to discuss her job? some times. anything about what she does you feel would impact you one way or another? no. desire to join her? it sounds exciting, but not for me 15:03:34 k95.... family or friends? yes someone important to let us know. acquaintances from homeland security and friend that is head of security. discuss criminal matters? no. the law? no. 15:04:14 k80.... friends? some close to you. neighbors son in law is US Marshall... and another Seminole county deputy and then another one and family friend have deputies at jail... discussions with them? no. interfere? no 15:05:02 e22.... close friend who was in law enforcement for 2 decades... discussions? interfere? no. 15:05:27 g66... my brother in law retired from police enforce, my niece is.... discuss matters? about what they do. desire to join? when I was younger. impact you? no 15:06:05 H7 HAS HAND UP... h7: friends through boy scouts. never discussed outside of scouts. no impact one way or another 15:06:29 i19... my uncle is police officer. still? yes. local? somewhere else. impact you? no. 15:06:57 i24... husband's niece is married to gentleman in fbi. anything about that? no. 15:07:19 i33... my wife's father is retired sheriff. no impact. in this county? different state. impact you? no 15:07:44 anybody in this room that has not had a dispute with another person? anybody? physical dispute? b35... verbal to physical. a long time ago? yeah. resolve it between you two? once or twice police were called. impact you? no sir 15:08:34 anybody else? e6... I was involved in domestic violence. impact? no. b7? fight in middle school... (Everyone laughs) I think I lost. any impact? no 15:09:33 k95... just domestic. impact you? no. 15:09:45 disputes where you worked it out? everyone? b61 have you? yes. how? talk about it. 15:10:19 g66? dispute where you resolved? yes. without violence? yes. talking loud walking away 15:10:34 medical experience, in the field one way or another? g47....registered EMT. impact? not that I'm aware of. k95... CNA and activity director. anyone else? e40... certified health care officer. b12.... 15:11:42 e28.... medical. h86? home health CNA before RN. 15:12:07 other than b72... fitness people? h18... work out all the time? lifting every morning, play tennis... e13.... weight lift and run and go to gym. b72... wrestling, anybody else wrestle? boxing? h29... trying to get more George Forman on.... in the military. how well? middle levels before someone was young. I remember 5, 6.... (everyone's laughing) 15:13:46 anybody else? g63... weight lifting? yes. training for sport. endurance type thing? weight lifting. for a year? yes. 15:14:09 h18... boxing? martial arts since I was a kid. 15:14:36 involved in martial arts? yes. green belt. b86.... tae-kwon-do with my kids... couple years senior blue belt. 15:15:16 training in phonetics? linguistics? I did sign language many years ago. (juror number) 15:15:41 e13... four years of sign language 15:15:49 live in gated community? g63... 4 years ago community had security guard in its entrance. i19, h86, h81.... 15:16:28 live in neighborhood with a watch? b7... seen the signs, but I'm... b35? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e73? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e22 watch? sign but I don't know who's on it? involved? no. k80? watch? yes. involved? no and my husband is block captain but I don't know what he does. k95? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. (two more jurors... not involved) 15:18:32 g63... not where I live but before, I don't know who was involved. 15:18:45 last row: h18? involved? no. h29... we have signs. involved? no. I know some ladies who are. 15:19:18 anybody consider expert in DNA? no from everybody 15:19:51 who does not have a cell phone? everyone has one. anyone an expert on cell phones? i44... working knowledge of that.... 15:20:27 expert someone beyond being able to turn it on. (juror number): I am... witness? no. records of calls?. anyone else. b7? same circumstance. e73? same responses. g47: I consider myself tech savvy. k95: I have a lot of jobs, work in IT. 15:21:53 agree people dress differently? way they dress does it matter? no. 15:22:22 assume certain things based on attire? e6... lots of different things. woman dressed or wearing expensive things....rich? either that or give that appearance. if they're not, they're poor? could mean many different things. known wealthy man who preferred to dress down. we make assumptions 15:23:30 in terms of law, what does it say about assumptions? they don't count. 15:24:04 this case the victim, martin and defendant are different race, does it matter? no. h35... does it matter? absolutely not. that doesn't matter ever anywhere.... everyone agree? yes 15:24:35 victim as court read was under 18... O'Mara: approach? YES (sidebar) 15:27:49 IS EVERYONE OK TO GO ON? GO AHEAD 15:27:58 rionda: victim was under 18, does anyone believe his life is worth less because he was a minor? no. black African America, worth less? no 15:28:37 believe in right to bear arms? yes 15:28:41 who has a firearm or access to one? b35... personally own? yes. more than one? yes. target practice and hunting. what kind? caliber and shot gun. proficient? yes train in military. how often? a couple months. holster? yes. more than one? yes. internal or external? external. concealed permit? yes. 15:29:54 b76... I don't have any in our home, but we have family members that do in their own home. any experience yourself? no 15:30:12 b37.... used to have concealed weapons permit. husband wanted me to renew but I don't have a gun... no point. I can shoot a gun. we used to go out to range and shooting. basic familiarity with it 15:30:49 e6... husband has 9 millimeter, .38 and rifles... my son has a hunting rifle and bb guns. you yourself involved in firing? went to range one time and sometimes target practice with bb guns 15:31:27 e40.. brother in law has hunting rifles 15:31:38 b12.... fired a gun one time in my life and fell on my but, my son has gun and my mom and sister 15:31:57 m75.... my brother in law has 2 guns, a .38 and another handgun. shooting with him? no... goes with my sister and daughter 15:32:25 b61 repeat? do you have a firearm or have access to one. 15:32:37 ever fired a gun... recreational... 15:32:49 b7 my father has some. 15:33:03 e22... good friend has a firearm 15:33:09 e13... my step dad has a few, went and fired once 15:33:20 b86.... fired one once 15:33:43 k80.... yes own firearms... fired before? yes. familiar. own one yourself and carry with holster? no. no concealed weapons 15:34:10 k95.... I do and my son does. 15:34:17 p67... no I don't 15:34:25 g66... yes I have a .32. fire on occasion? periodically. holster? no 15:34:46 i44... hand gun. fire yourself? yes 15:35:00 i33... rifles. shooting purposes? hunting 15:35:16 i24.... handguns. revolver? yes 15:35:26 i19.... my father has them for hunting.. shoot yourself? no 15:35:38 h86... my brother in law has several. shot yourself? yes. handgun and a rifle. know the difference between semi-automatic and revolver? yes 15:36:07 h81... go to range, but don't shoot my own guns 15:36:22 (juror number) .. mom has one 15:36:29 h29...... I have daughters, so I have shot guns.... revolver and rifle 15:36:48 h18... I do. 15:36:57 h7... yes I do. member of nra? yes. anybody else? no 15:37:08 h6... father owns numerous guns and I've gone with him to the range 15:37:34 have guns or are familiar, responsibility with having one? yes. believe than h7? absolutely. everyone agree with him? yes 15:37:55 agree with that i44? yes. 15:38:01 anybody not agree? everyone agrees 15:38:12 defendant charged with murder in second degree, haven't heard evidence I don't want opinion, but can you follow a law...state has to prove victim is dead, the death was caused by criminal act of Zimmerman, and unlawful killing of martin by an act dangerous to another in a depraved mind without regard to human life.... act includes series of related to.... immanently dangerous to a deprived mind if an act that a person of ordinary judgment was known to seriously kill or done from ill will or of such nature it indicates indifferent to human life... follow that? yes. 15:40:11 not necessary for state to prove intent... 15:40:28 doesn't require certain number of shots or motive 15:40:46 understand there can be defenses to crimes, understand? yes 15:41:10 insanity or self-defense... justifiable use of deadly force...follow instruction about that? yes. 15:41:38 last week and this week about media and publicity and hardship... most of you heard that both sides expect trial to last 2-4 weeks....jury will be sequestered... family member p67... letter that it would be hardship. in addition to what you said? yes. anybody else in that predicament? b61: can you explain sequestered 15:43:42 housed together, but interaction with others will be limited.... won't be able to go home at night. contact with outside world limited. have some contact, court will give instructions about that... monitored contact. 15:45:36 b7... first time I heard about it.... I have questions that are.... 15:45:48 e6... I didn't realize, does that include weekends... YES ENTIRE TIME OF TRIAL. ok.... 15:46:11 b37: you have some contact with family. ALL THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED LATER, WILL HAVE CONTACT BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED.. WILL HAVE CONTACT 15:46:37 b6... include telephone calls can they visit? ALLOWED TO VISIT, LIMITED AS TO TIME...LIMITED PHONE CONTACT... emails? YES IT WILL BE LIMITED. YOU WON'T BE CUT OFF FROM FAMILY, STAYING IN A FACILITY, HOTEL IN THE AREA AND ALL MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED AND TRANSPORTATION AND PERSON NEEDS DURING THE TRIAL. 15:47:38 k80: if this group is sequestered where we can't return to our homes, will this case be 7 days a week? NO. so everyone gets to go home on weekends but we can't? CORRECT. PLANNED ACTIVITIES FOR YOU, THERE WILL BE MEALS... I MEAN ITS... MORE WILL BE EXPLAINED 15:48:29 rionda: attorneys and court will be busy with other matters, were not going on vacation for the weekend 15:49:01 can all of you agree since you haven't heard evidence you have to keep open mind? yes. understand that part of process is that decision needs to be unanimous? yes. 15:49:31 haven't heard evidence, presuming defendant innocent? yes. use common sense and evidence for decision? yes. could you convict him if evidence showed he was guilty? yes. and opposite? yes 15:50:11 people should be held responsible and accountable for actions? yes. picked as juror and evaluating evidence, use god given common sense to get verdict that speaks the truth? yes. 15:50:40 I'm going to sit down.... but before I do... any matter that you think you need to bring to my attention? collective no. thank you very much 15:51:16 15 MINUTE... O'Mara: approach. YES (sidebar) 15:56:15 how long will we have to get our stuff in order... I WILL TELL YOU WHEN SELECTED ON JURY 15:56:34 b61: questionnaire did that say anything about sequestering. YES IT DID... ITS NOT AS LONG AS INDICATED 15:57:04 ITS BEEN A LONG DAY AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE O'MARA BEGIN VOIR DIRE AND KEEP YOU LATE AND HAVE SPLIT IT UP... RELEASE FOR THE NIGHT. COME BACK AT 9 AM. NOT TO READ OR LISTEN TO RADIO OR TV REPORTS, NOT TO DISCUSS CASE. NOT TO USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO GET ON INTERNET. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES ABOUT CASE. ASSURANCE YOU WILL ABIDE? yes. ANY ISSUE... PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. P67...INDICATED MAYBE HAVING THINGS TO DISCUSS, PLEASE REMAIN AND WILL DISCUSS AFTER THAT. EVERYONE ELSE AT A QUARTER TO 9 AM. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 15:59:54 COMFORTABLE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. 16:00:01 rionda: P67 letter from a family member? my wife wrote about it. trouble to serve? yes. tell us more? don't tell us where you work, but the media has rights to be present. work related? yes. express in letter? yes. wife wrote letter because she's more fluent in English? yes. had her write it because she could say it better? part for her and part for me she's worried about the situation. create hardship with wife and monetary? yes. like lately my little one I don't know what she heard in the news, lately she's been living with me thinking somebody is going to get me. also nice to discover how much she loves me 16:02:28 would that in your opinion impact you to pay attention? yes. of course. anything else you want to say to judge about that? that's all. just about my family. oh the other thing, the leveling or title... been things in media that my wife and older kids.. for example: media ask a resident or citizen or Hispanic, but then don't like how media express or a nickname all over the internet. media put your name on the internet or a certain way? yes. how did you find out? my wife found out through internet and my two biggest ones. they wanted to know what's going on with dad. your wife and kids saw on internet and alerted you and you said you didn't want to talk about it? yeah. impact on your kid and wife? yes. concern about that as a result? yes. interfere with paying attention? yes. 16:05:02 O'Mara: minor concerns and I want to see if they stack... media? yes. media in court room prohibited from putting you on camera... I am, but you are not... they can't put your face or information... not public, understand that? yes sir. concern to be they have identified you by some descriptors, like a white female whatever... and you they described as well? yes. concerned by a term the way the described you? I prefer they call me a resident or citizen or Hispanic. the other one telling my kids or wife..... something else on the internet? told me they saw "Mexican". concern to be Mexican than resident? yes. 16:07:22 sounds like they were labeling you? yes which I'm not happy about.... I represent the system, we apologize about any insensitivity from the media... as juror you're being exposed to that in a profile case its unavoidable... not sure we can un-do that.... maybe media will learn lesson to be culturally sensitive. 16:08:17 30 days your employer doesn't need to pay you? that's a part of it 16:08:28 about the service and the jury I noticed a couple things, seemed to me you were looking forward to it as a citizen, feel that way still? yes, but if it takes this long... issues. I was thinking 2-3 weeks, yeah let's get it done... without guessing too much we may start Monday.... last 2-4 weeks and then you deliberate and we'd be done.... timeline put out there now.... 16:09:38 mention that because of the publicity, your little ones was wrapping arms around your leg... a loss for you and family temporarily if here with us... such imposition that it is insurmountable, you can't do it for destroying purposes? my family will be destroyed. if not to that level... hoping you would consider it... inconvenient for you, accomplish if we ask you to, 2-4 weeks? definite inconvenience. not trying to minimize that, but as citizens as we take on the role of doing everything, there's not much more asked of our citizens but war and ask them to serve on jurors... 16:12:04 if we ask you, is it something that you can accomplish even past its inconvenience? 16:12:34 judge will clear up the confusion, but in sequestration being with us you will have contact with family, telephone monitored, visits with family members monitored... not in prison but in situation where you maintain contact but supervised way to protect process...any questions that I can help answer for you to make decision to sit as juror 16:13:54 I just want to you to consider my situation. if pick you can you sit with us? if that's the only option I guess... well you can say no, but if it's an inconvenience, say yes... if it's because of destruction than you can't.... call is yours. if you can under what we talked about.... I just can't with consequences coming if over 4 weeks. I don't want to end up on the street. if I was single, it wouldn't be a problem. 16:15:09 rionda: the media itself or the internet with comments? they saw on internet, I don't know where.... EXCUSED FOR EVENING, SEE YOU TOMORROW IN THE MORNING. 16:15:44 PLEASE BE SEATED, COUNCIL COME TO BENCH..(sidebar) 16:16:22 COURT RECESS FOR THE DAY ====================================
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL POOL 061913 P3
INT BROLL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRAYVON MARTIN TRIAL / SWITCHED POOL FEED **NOTE: JUDGE'S COMMENTS IN CAPS **NAMES OF WITNESSES IN RED **VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS IN (PARENTHESES) **GOOD STATEMENTS/VIDEO BOLD 8:58:37 (Zimmerman enters, tan suit blue shirt and brown tie) (court rearranged differently) 9:00:12 PLEASE BE SEATED, GOOD MORNING. ON THE RECORD. ONE JUROR IS A FEW MINUTES LATE, WAIT FOR THEM. COUNCIL APPROACH FOR ONE MOMENT 9:00:59 (sidebar) 9:09:51 RECESS UNTIL THE POTENTIAL JURORS GET HERE 9:10:08 COURT IN RECESS ============================ 9:27:02 ATTORNEYS REQUEST THE FRYE HEARING BE TOMORROW AT 2. (sidebar) 9:31:03 deputy: jurors are present 9:32:36 PLEASE BE SEATED. GOOD MORNING... BEGIN WHATS REALLY THE JURY SELECTION, BEFORE WAS PRE SELECTION PROCESS... INSTRUCTIONS: IN ORDER TO HAVE FAIR TRIAL, RULES JURY MUST FOLLOW. MUST DECIDE CASE ON EVIDENCE IN COURT. DON'T COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CASE. DO NOT DISCLOSE YOUR THOUGHTS OR ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO DECIDE. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES OR COMMUTERS TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS CASE. DO NOT SEND OR ACCEPT MESSAGES ABOUT THIS CASE. MUST NOT DO RESEARCH THAT MAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CASE. APPLIES IN COURT HOUSE, SEQUESTRATION, OR ANY WHERE ELSE. DEPENDING ON YOU TO FOLLOW RULES FOR A FAIR TRIAL. INVESTIGATE OR RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, NO WAY TO ASSURE THEY ARE PROPER OR RELEVANT TO CASE. NO OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE EVIDENCE. BECOME AWARE OF VIOLATIONS OF INSTRUCTIONS, MUST TELL ME BY NOTE FROM COURT DEPUTY. 9:35:40 GOING TO BEGIN JURY SELECTION PROCESS, KNOWN AS VOIR DIRE. PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE IF THE DECISION WOULD BE FAIR BASED ON EVIDENCE WITHOUT INFLUENCE FROM OUTSIDE FACTORS. NOT FOR PURPOSE OF PRYING INTO AFFAIRS... 9:36:27 CHARGES SET FORTH FOR ZIMMERMAN.... EVERY PERSON ACCUSED IS TO KNOW THE EXACT CHARGE. STATE OF FLORIDA VS. ZIMEMRMAN 12CF10838A COUNT 1 MURDER IN SECOND DEGREE. ON FEB. 26, 2012 ZIMMERMAN UNLAWFULLY KILLED MARTIN UNDER THE AGE OF 18, SHOOTING VICTIM. ZIMMERMAN CARRIED DISPLAYED USED ATTEMPT TO USE FIREARM. AS RESULT OF DEATH, INFLICTED UPON ANY PERSON.......... 9:38:13 INTRODUCED TO PARTICIPANTS OF THIS TRIAL. ARE ANY OF YOU RELATED TO ATTORNEYS OR ZIMMERMAN? NO HANDS ARE BEING RAISED 9:38:37 HANDED A LIST OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES IN THE CASE. IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY NAMES PLEASE CIRCLE THEM. MANY MORE NAMES LISTED THAN ACTUALLY CALLED... REVIEW THAT. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ANY INDIVIDUALS... ASK YOU TO TELL US WHAT PAGE AND WHAT NUMBER THEY ARE OR THEIR INITIALS. DONE READING, PLEASE LOOK UP. 9:46:19 SHOW OF HANDS BY FIRST ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE WITNESS NAMES? 9:46:46 (couldn't hear the juror number) ANYONE ON FRONT PAGE YOU RECOGNIZE? first page. HOW MANY? 2. they're both d's. FIRST NAME? j and d. first and fourth d. ATTORNEYS WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST? no. 9:48:06 SECOND ROW, DO YOU RECOGNIZE NAMES? B61? HOW MANY? just 1, perhaps the last page the first one. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND ROW? G63? HOW MANY? 2. WHAT PAGE? second page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? j. initial of first name? c. 5 OR 6TH DOWN FROM J's? 1 of them. the 5th. WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? last page. INITIAL OF LAST NAME? w. INITIAL OF FIRST NAME? e. FIRST WD OR LAST WD? I only see one. oh it's the first. 9:50:14 ANYBODY ELSE? ON THE THIRD ROW? JUROR i33? WHO BY PAGE? first page last name b, first name c. THE LAST B? yes. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST YOU RECOGNIZE? number 32, last c. CB? correct. last page...last name w, first name n. OK. I do have one more. last name z first name s. OK, COVER ALL OF THOSE? yes. 9:52:21 ANYBODY ELSE? JUROR E6. on last page, last name w first name n and last name z and first name s. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9:53:20 rionda: good morning... introduce myself to you all. reviewing why this is important 9:55:11 spent last week and first two days of this week going through the process, asked all of you questions related to case regarding publicity. individual so it didn't contaminate other juror's knowledge. important at arriving a decision comes from this court room. agree? yes. issue with that, outside of courtroom can't factor into decision? 9:56:18 what you saw or read from media is irrelevant. now in stage 2. question you individually and collectively about this case or background stuff about you 9:56:45 assure us that you will give consideration to all questions asked? yes 9:56:59 if during this process I ask individually or as a group and you feel uncomfortable talking about it in a group, let us know.... 9:57:41 juror b7? correct. do you want us to bring up issues about that and the time of the question? yes sir 9:58:06 were trying to get a jury that speaks the truth and arrive at just verdict 9:58:20 some of you were talked to last week and others were Monday and Tuesday... anyone go home and celebrate going through to next round? nobody? 9:58:42 appreciate you've taken this time already. 9:58:59 juror b12.... as talked about individually, how long resident of Seminole county? at least 40 years. how long have you lived at current address? 19 years. live in state of Florida before that? Michigan. left there when I was 9. married? no. divorced? yes. how long married before divorce? a yr. what does former spouse do for living? he's dead. children? 2. how old? 32 and 19. what do they do for living? one's a full time student and the other one owns his own company. medical field and construction worker. how long have you been at current employer? since October. before that? home health nurse. how long? 5 years. supervise people in that position? no. before that? CNA. how long total? 5 years. members or involved in organizations at all? volunteer work for moose lodge and my church. how long, long time? yeah. 10:02:51 leadership position? no anymore. prior experience? no. outside work and volunteering, anything else? raising my daughter, I'm a mother. any other hobbies? part of red hat society. I like my wine and going to the beach. served on jury before? no. just don't like the media being there.... that takes away his privileges, they put everything everywhere.... 10:05:31 b29... originally from Chicago? yes. grew up there? yes. married? yes. how long? 10 years. kids, yes? lots. how many? 8. under age of 18? one is over 18. how old is that one? going to be 20. live with you and husband? resides with me now. going to school or working? arrived a few weeks ago, looking for work 10:06:32 how long at employment? 3 months. prior to that? CNA. how long? 7 years. member of organization? my house. military service? no. spend time outside work, but I know answer and what you're passionate about? kids. jury service? no. 10:07:34 b76... how long in Seminole? since 1995. how long at current address? 1 week. prior to that? another address. originally from? been here since 1966. marital status? married. how long? 30 years. children? 2. how old? 28 attorney, 26 CNA. does your son practice in Seminole? yes. what practice? not criminal, foreclosures, bankruptcies, divorce, and contract. ever practiced criminal law? no. 10:08:59 picked as jury and they haven't talked about law and you can't call your son and ask him? yes I understand. 10:09:25 how long at current place of employment? unemployed. prior? husband and I had construction company. how long? 15 yes. husband still involved in that business? no. helping out children built their home. manage rental properties. involvement? I rescue a lot of pets. how long? a long time. military service? no. outside house? managing properties and rescuing animals. passion? rescuing animals. prior jury service? no 10:10:43 b7.... living in Seminole? between orange and Seminole 30 years. born and raised in Florida. married? yes. how long? 10 years. what does spouse do? just got out of school to be a teacher. kids? no. current occupation? 11 years. any management duties? I will. tell us about that? going to be elite position among others in similar roles. how many will you supervise? just 2-3. member in organization? I'm sure I am through her. military service? no. outside work? watch sports... love video games. socialize with friends go out to bar. passion? not passionate about a lot of stuff. ever served as juror? I have. how long ago? before I was working at current job, 12-15 years. Seminole or orange? Seminole. criminal or civil? criminal. reach a verdict? yes. fore person? no. enjoy it? I did. it was one day. 10:13:37 b35.... how long in Seminole? since 1985. current address? 12 yes. marital status? married. how long? going on 20+ years. what does spouse do? local TV. is she a reporter? no. comments I made about media you won't hold against me. 10:14:24 any kids? yes. 1 son in college now. what is he studying? engineering. current occupation, how long? I manage tax office in the year, vending machines and rental... for about 7 years... before that? properties around central Florida. member in organization? fraternity and football coach. how long? 13 years. military service? yes Marine Corp Reserves. how long? 6 years. military police? no. how do you spend time out of work? watching sports, coaching, spending time together. 10:16:07 real passion in life? coaching football.... served as juror? no 10:16:19 b37.... Seminole county? 18 years. prior? dad was air force captain. born in California, but went from coast to other. married? yes. 20 years. spouse job? space attorney... rockets and space craft. how long has that been a specialty? always... since he graduated. corporate attorney? yes. practice criminal law? no. would that influence you? no he wouldn't answer me. kids? 24, pet groomer, 27 at ucf. how long at employment? 16 years. management position? now I am, converted because girl before retired. ever settle disputes? no, there's only 3 of us.. were a family. organizations? involved in rescue groups, got out because I couldn't take more animals. do you know the other juror? I do not. 10:19:08 does anybody know any other jurors here? 10:19:15 military service? no. outside, I know. jury service? called 4 times... excluded from last one because of where I work. 10:19:41 b51.... how are you? good. Seminole? 9 years. originally? orange county. central Florida? since 1987. before? Atlanta. married? no. kids? no. grand kids? no. employment? retired. retired from what work? real estate.. several careers? I have. prior to that? director of call center. how long? 10 years. managerial duties? direct reports and 1200 employees. resolve disputes? often. how? listen to all sides and make tough calls. 10:21:11 member of any organizations? no. just enjoying retirement? yes. in military? I wasn't. for fun? driving back and forth to Jacksonville... elderly parents, lots of brothers and sisters. jury service? yes, one was in Seminole county 3 years ago... called case before we were called. another one in orange county in 1991, I was an alternate. 10:22:20 b86... how long a resident? 1989. before that? 1971 in orange county. marital status? single. kids? 2. 20 and 21... full time student and trying to get the other one back in school, he was ill. the one in school, what does he want to be? childhood specialist. how long in employment? 10 years. member in organizations? not any more, once at birds of prey... worked in church with youth group. in military? no. jury service? 10:24:24 e6.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange. how long? since 2004. originally? Brevard. marital status? married. what does spouse do? engineer. how long married? 6 years. kids? 2, 11 and 13. current occupation? unemployed. 9 months before that and prior to that I was in school and raising kids. what filed before? financial services. member in organization? member of church and I used to volunteer at kids school 10:25:44 military? no. how do you spend time outside of work? taking care of kids, dogs, helping with the friends young kids, gardening. prior jury service? no, called but never... 10:26:09 e40... Seminole county? 7 months. before that? Iowa. how long? 2 years. before that? California. come to Florida to retire? came to work in Florida. what do you do? safety officer. how long? over 25 years. marital status? married. spouse living? chemical engineer. kids? 1 son, 28 looking for work. prior to that? he was working in western Pennsylvania in fast food service. organization? no. military? no. fun? travel, read, and sports. any particular? all but football mainly. prior jury service? yes I have served. in Pennsylvania. criminal or civil? drug dealing 10:28:14 go back and deliberate? yes. reach verdict? we were. forewoman? I was not. enjoy experience? I did 10:28:30 e54... how long in Seminole? 14 years. before that? orange. since I was 8. marital status? married for 5 years. spouse? engineering technician. kids? two step children, 16 living with us and the other is late 20s. how long working there? 3 years. before that? same field for 30 years. member involved in organizations? no. military? no. fun? reading, working on family tree, playing golf. where's family from originally? Maryland 10:29:58 passions I guess? it was for a while, now that we finished it's on the side 10:30:09 jury service? summoned but never sat 10:30:18 e73... Seminole? 13 years. prior? new jersey. grow up there? I did not. grew up? new York. current address? 13 years. marital status? married. how long? 33 years. spouse? retired. prior to that? telecommunications firm. kids? yes. how many? 2. how old and what they do? 15 on Sunday, 18. still in school? going to college. what he wants to do? I don't think he's there yet 10:31:34 retired or working? consultant. how long? 10 years. before that? large telecommunications firm. where your husband worked? yes. meet there? we did. organizations? not currently. before? various arts councils. military? no. fun? going to sporting events, children active in sports... make jewelry, read, I love the beach 10:32:28 prior jury service? yes. here in Seminole? 3 times in Seminole, once for federal court and once in Ohio. served 5 times? yes. enjoy it? not always. Ohio, criminal or civil? civil I think. deliberate? settled out of court after 5 days. federal? criminal. deliberate? I didn't get seated on jury. three here, criminal or civil? first was civil and I didn't do anything. next was criminal settled out of court, next one I didn't get seated. 10:34:16 m75.... how long in Seminole? since 2001. before that? new York. grow up there? yes. lived in current address? 2 months. prior to that? still in Seminole, just different space. married or single? single. kids? no. work? 2 months. prior? travel agent for cruise. how long? 1 year. before that? theme parks in Orlando. how long? almost 2 years. what did you do? guest service attendant moved to cashier and food service. member of organization? not currently, used to volunteer at animal shelter. military? no. fun? large family, visit with them. military service? no 10:36:22 b61... how long in Seminole? 5 years. current address for? 4 years. prior? orange, Volusia, army brat. marital status? married. how long? 2 months. husband? full time student. engineer. kids? no. engineer too? yes. how long? 7 years. member of organizations? church, professional society, and sorority. leadership? I have, but not now. military? no. fun? studying, reading and spending time with family. studying to be? for an exam. prior jury service? no 10:38:00 b72.... how long resident? 9 years. originally? Chicago. marital status? single. kids? no. work? coming to a year. same field but different job? yes. involved in organizations? alumni of fraternity. leadership? vice president of local chapter but I wouldn't say so. military? no. fun? arm wrestling, going to gym.... one arm pull up. how long? 2.5 years. wrestling in high school? weight lift, track, football 2 years. meets to arm wrestle? depends on venue, encompasses everything... I could talk about it all day 10:40:00 prior jury service? no 10:40:05 e22... how long in Seminole? 12 years. prior? orange. grow in central Florida? only since 92. up north? spend a lot of time there. married? single. kids? no. work? 19 years. organizations? social service with employer. military? no. spend time out of work? gardening, all things food. passionate about? yeah. jury service? called in asocial but didn't serve 10:41:34 e13.... how long in Seminole? 17 years. marital status? single. kids? no. how long have you been doing that? surgical assistant for 2 years. member of organizations? church. military? no. outside work? horses. passion is riding? yes. jury service? no 10:42:33 e28.... how long Seminole? 1985. before that? Texas. originally from? yes. marital? married for 28 years, 2 children... 27 and 23 work for theme park and hotel side of it. spouse do? teacher. work? 26 years. members? professional, relay for life. how you spend time out of work? yes. jury? summoned for federal, never called and served in Texas... read verdict? yes. deliberate? yes. forewoman? no. enjoy that? yes I did 10:44:16 k80... Seminole county? 2004. before? Virginia. grew up there? most of life. marital status? 15 years... spouse? maintenance tech. kids? 2. two girls. under 18? yes. work? over 5 years, same line of work for 15 years. member of organizations? attend church regularly, girl scouts, soccer. military? family members, father was navy grandfathers and cousins. fun? work absorbs time and then children. jury service? no first time 10:45:49 k95... how long in Seminole? 16 years. before that? orange for 7 and manatee for 4. marital? married. 15 years. spouse? electrician. kids? yes. how old? daughter that's 24, son that'll be 14, and a grandson. daughter? internship to be a dental hygienist. work? consultant, used to own company for 7 years. same industry for 10 10:46:51 member of organizations? yeah, ptk. pbl. fbi. Alzheimer's association, autism speaks and march of dimes. military? no. jury service? no 10:47:22 p67... why we can't do this in private... is there a way? do in private with nobody else? approach bench? VOIR DIRE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC FORM. YOU CAN APPROACH. your name is private if that's what you're worried about. I just don't want the media to put labels on me like finding something else. JURY SELECTION PROCESS HAS TO BE OPEN COURT, OPEN TO PUBLIC...ZIMMERMAN HAS RIGHT TO BE THERE, ATTORNEYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE... REMOVE OTHER JURY MEMBERS, WILL NOT CLEAR THE COURT ROOM... MAYBE A QUESTION ASKED THAT IS SENSITIVE NATURE TO YOU THAT I CAN'T CLEAR THE COURT ROOM, BUT I CAN DO IT OUTSIDE PRESENCE OF OTHER MEMBERS. 10:49:51 from where? been here since 2008. Seminole county how long? since 2008. before that? moved from Chicago. before that, originally? Mexico. how long in US? since I was 18 years old. married? yes. how long? about 20 years. kids? yes. how old? 18, and 16 and 11. still in school? just out of high school. work for how long? since 2008. involved in organizations? church. military? no. fun? helping wife, kids and watching sports. first time in jury? yes. looking forward to it? looking to have a nice experience, but it's been a nightmare. every day something is different. if it's going to affect my family I'm not looking forward to it...still feel it's a hardship for you? absolutely 10:52:34 g14... how long in Seminole? once before and recently from 2005 to now. grew up and moved out? no dad in military. marital status? divorced. former spouse? does not work at this time. what did he do? assembly. kids? 2 boys. 12 and 15. work? 3 years. before? sold print advertising. how long? 1996 to 2010. involved in organizations? boy scouts. how long? 6 years. military service? I have not been, but family. spend time outside work? boy scouts, taking care of my boys and reading. jury? summoned 2 other times, but never seated on jury 10:54:22 g29... Seminole county? 9 months. before that? in orange county. marital? single. kids? no. work? almost 6 years. before that? same field for total over 14 years. member of organizations? no. military? no. fun? friends and family and sports and TV. jury service? summoned in orange but never on jury 10:55:33 g47.... how long in Seminole? under 9 years. before? Boston, MA. marital? single. kids? nope. current job, how long? since October. before that? unemployed. member with organization? no. military? none. fun? sports friends beer. jury service? once, but it was settled 10:56:24 g63..... how long in Seminole? 4 years. before? orange. martial? single. kids? no. unemployed now, before that? teaching assistant and student. major? mathematics. member of any organizations? no. military service? no. fun? chess, Olympic weightlifting, piano. how long Olympic? a year. jury? no 10:57:40 g66.... Seminole? 2 years. prior? 12 years in Madison. prior to that? Chicago. marital? widow. spouse? mechanic for trucks. kids? 2 daughters. oldest is 36 works for entertainment company. 32 year old works for entertainment lighting... how long you work? retired. prior? at hospitals. financial advisor. member of organizations? started riding with Care Takers... motorcycle club. military? no. outside work? ride with my boyfriend, fish, spend time with family. what does boyfriend do? he sails. jury service? once in Chicago... alternate 10:59:45 g81.... how long in Seminole? 16 years. marital status? married. how long? 19 years. spouse? administrative assistant. how long? 19 years. member in organizations? professional. military service? no. fun? golf, travel, sports. prior service? no. 11:00:37 h6... Seminole? 1.5 years. prior? orange and Colorado. in Florida? since 2004. married? no. kids? no. current job? 5 months. prior to that? same line of work, but in it for 7 years now. member involved in organizations? no. military service? no. fun? relax... jury service? yes. in Seminole or others? orange. 2 years ago. criminal case. deliberate? yes. verdict? on most charges. foreman? no 11:02:04 h7.... in Seminole? 27 years, before Illinois, before Texas. married 44 years. 2 children ones 41 in Ireland. 39 in el Paso. spouse? weight watchers councilor for 25 years takes care of house. job? 40 years. member of organizations? professional associations, boy scouts for 35 years, instructor for merit badges, wife and I will have a small nursery. prior jury service? 1 in Seminole criminal case, foreperson we reached a verdict. 11:03:30 h18.... Seminole county? 2 years. before? orange county for almost a year. overseas before? yes. how long? 1996. marital status? going through divorce. kids? 1. girl is 7. job? in that field since I got to Florida, before that......... overseas in military? army and then contractor for defense company...involved in any organizations? no. fun? gym, tennis, swimming, with my daughter. jury service? no 11:05:05 h29... resident of Seminole? over 30 years, and orange... army brat. marital status? divorced. spouse? school teacher. kids? yeah 2 daughters, 28 and 30 year old... working with UCF and the other is handicapped. work? 30 years. member? professional and served on local city board for 15 years... leadership? yes. military? I also served too. how long? 4 years. military police? no. fun? beach, tennis... beer. jury service? summoned once 15 years ago... never sat 11:07:11 h18... military police? no 11:07:17 h35... Seminole? 24 years. martial? married. how long? 5 years. spouse? unemployed. before? lawn service. kids? no. job? unemployed taking care of grandfather before. member of organizations? was in 2010. military? no. spend time for fun? beach. jury service? no 11:08:17 h81... how long in Seminole? since 2000. prior to that? Pennsylvania. marital status? 31 years. spouse? supervisor at hotel. kids? 25 year old daughter in marketing son in navy. work? 25 years. member of organizations? 1 professional. military? no. fun? family and discovering cool internet technologies. jury service? yes. in Seminole criminal case. verdict? yes. foreman? no 11:09:39 h69... resident of Seminole? 21 years. marital status? married. how long? 11 months. spouse? technician with bright house. work? a year and 8 months. before that in school? IRA company. member of any organizations? church, human resources. military? no. fun? usually with mom or dad. prior jury service? no. 11:10:43 h86.... Seminole? born and raised. married? no. kids? no. job? 6 months. before? technician. organizations? professional and church. military? no. fun? volunteer and with family. jury? summoned, but away for school 11:11:37 i5.... how long in Seminole? 13 years. before that? Alaska for 27 years. what were you doing? working, originally in military, 7 years and then discharged work for financial... married? yes. spouse? auditor. kids? yes. 3. what do they do? oldest son is 40 worked for grocery chain, out in California. daughter is 38 works for utility company and my youngest works for IT group. work? almost 40 years. member of any organizations outside? no all professional. military police? no. fun? watching sports on TV, hang with friends, I like working with computers..... jury service? yes. Seminole or elsewhere? 2 assignments here in Seminole and when I lived in Alaska I think I had 4. 2 here, deliberate? just 1. criminal or civil? DWI. we deliberated. verdict? yes. foreman? yes. 4 in Alaska and deliberate all of them? yes. criminal or civil? all civil. foreman on 1 of them. reach verdict on all 4? yes. enjoy experiences? looking back I did... when I was on it I didn't 11:14:48 i19.... resident in Seminole? 3 years. before? orange. marital status? single. kids? no. work? 1 year. before that? retail. organizations? no. military? no. fun? school. health service admin. jury? no 11:15:36 i24... how long in Seminole? 1968. marital status? married. shy of 39 years. spouse? he is a coordinator transportation for theme park. kids? 29 athletic trainer, 22 student, 29 installer. student, studying? psychology. work? just shy of 42 years. organizations? no. military? no. fun? sports work in yard, beach, hit the road and go to mountains. jury? summoned once but never had to 11:17:09 i33... resident in Seminole? 30 years. marital? married. spouse? account manager. kids? no. work? searching for new career. how long in field before? 44 years. member in organization? yes. what kind? environmental advocacy and county board. how long? just over a year. military service? no. fun? small farm and enjoy offshore competition fishing. jury service? no. 11:18:29 i44... resident in Seminole? 2 years but 25 in orange. marital status? married. spouse? RN. kids? 3, 10, 12, and 9 month son. work? 12 years. field? before that in theme park industry. involved in organizations? Florida barbecue association. military service? no. fun? family raising little one. jury service? 4 years ago orange I was alternate 11:20:17 15 MINUTE RECESS, FOLLOW JARVIS OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. ================================================================ 11:41:13 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. approach? YES (sidebar) 11:42:19 jurors are present 11:43:26 PLEASE BE SEATED... RIONDA YOU MAY CONTINUE 11:43:39 group questions... and then individual too... sit here today, give the defendant a fair trial? yes. give the state a fair trial? yes. give both sides fair? yes. issue? believe both sides do not deserve fair trial? defendant and stat fair trial? yes 11:44:32 state has to prove defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. it's the law. court will give you instructions. states burden, understand? yes. states prove crime was committed and defendant did it? yes. 11:45:18 read like what it is not... a reasonable doubt is not forced, imaginary, speculative... must have reason for that doubt. not to a mathematical certainty, not absolute? yes 11:46:11 believe the burden should be higher than reasonable doubt, like perfection? 11:46:34 sit here today, do you all understand concept/law talks about presumption of innocence. this defendant is presumed innocent, understand? yes. not innocent, but presumed innocent? yes. abide by that? yes. 11:47:23 live in greatest country of world and our criminal justice allows for a trial. no matter what the charge, state has burden. understand? yes. trial is the way? yes 11:47:56 defendant has no obligation? yes. how do you render a verdict? court will give instructions on how to do that. rely on facts and law and also in the process you use common sense in arriving in verdict. 11:48:45 law also says you don't speculate... not allowed in arriving in verdict. speculation plays no role, rely on evidence. agree? yes 11:49:14 what witness says is evidence, no the questions 11:49:51 difference between real world and TV world or make believe. 11:50:08 b35... if attorney asks question of witness and the witness says no, what do you believe? what witness said. is that important? yes. why? he's the witness.. he knows what's going on 11:50:58 sympathy plays no role at all in verdict, understand? yes. 11:51:22 understand that sympathy can't be consider at all, agree? yes 11:51:32 k80... agree with that? yes. why? based off facts and not emotion 11:52:05 bias shouldn't play a role at all in arriving in verdict.... g63, do you believe people are bias to certain things? yes. sometimes about people with bald heads or whatever, people has bias? yes. agree bias shouldn't play role at all? correct. biases about how people dress, should play role? no. why? not relevant to the facts that happened. do you think were always able to pick if someone is bias? not always. how can you tell? maybe if they... if they act in a way with specific preference for something more if they didn't have any advice. 11:53:57 penalties in this case, judges job what the penalties are. m75... problem with that? no. can't consider what the penalties are, no role? I understand. I agree. 11:54:49 job is only to defend guilt or innocence? yes. will anyone consider the penalties, you can't do that, agree? yes. 11:55:12 agree with that b37... I agree. why? falls in sympathy part. shouldn't play role at all? should not 11:55:59 state proves evidence, direct evidence... circumstantial evidence.... direct is someone sees something. circumstantial is added to other piece of puzzle to prove something. 11:56:25 law allows that the state can use direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. I come home and wife tells me kid brought cookie jar and the kids say they didn't do it... no eye witness, question kids... but one has crumbs in her mouth... that's an inference to prove something else 11:57:55 i44... ever used circumstantial evidence? all the time. at work or home? at home. give me an example? who made the mess, it wasn't us. who had breakfast, both of us. what did you have... oatmeal and there's oatmeal all over the counter. 11:58:47 I used to ask who watches CSI, now I ask reverse. who hasn't heard of CSI? b7 you have not watched CSI? no. anyone else who hasn't watched? b29, b35, b86, b61, b72, e28, k95, p67, h69, h86, h29. 12:01:01 not the real world... people want to believe that's real, they expect that evidence to appear out of nowhere... that's not the real world. hold state of Florida to what they've seen on csi? E6 HAS A QUESTION.... E6: going back to circumstantial evidences... circumstances can be misleading, so does it have to be very... still proven beyond unreasonable doubt. 12:02:38 never watched any of those shows? still have a few. b29... why? I like drama. real world as opposed to make believe? yeah 12:03:14 also had in last 5 or 10 years an increase in real lawyer type shows... not the real world? 12:03:43 i5... ever watch those shows? watched them don't make sense to me. some of them may be lawyers? question integrity of them... real lawyer wouldn't do that 12:04:17 not going to determine guilt or innocence from TV? yes. b61, agree with that? yes. if they're not representing client they don't know the facts, may have special interest. 12:05:35 how people feel about attorneys, how many of you liked their commercials... love those commercials??? hold against state of Florida or omara because were attorneys? anybody? 12:06:11 we realize people come into court room with opinions? yes. all come in with opinion on things, right? yes. if people are exposed to things, how do we make sure they make their decision on evidence opposed to what opinion should be. e73, what do we do with people whit opinions? that's a tough one cause I don't know that you'd always know about their opinion. e54, question? I don't know how you can guarantee that's not going to happen... you hope they don't. agree with e73 and e54? yes 12:08:18 h29... how would you assure opinions do not factor in the decision? profile a jury, ask questions look for answers that will represent you and people that are fair. no good way to do it. everyone agree? yes. telling the truth to best of ability.... 12:09:34 can you follow the law as a group? be frank with us.. does anybody feel they cannot? anybody? no from everyone? yes sir 12:10:02 h6... agree with that? yes. how would you assure that it doesn't interfere? don't know how you find out how, but keep my opinion out of it 12:10:44 both sides get fair trial 12:11:08 b67.... too personal or it's alright? it's alright. g14? agree that sometimes we make assumptions that turn out not to be true? yes. ever done that? yes. example? meet somebody and think they're stuck up and then I would find out later they were shy. agree with g14? yes. has anyone ever been wrong about an assumption? 12:12:58 assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes sir 12:13:22 opinions and assumptions play no role in a verdict? yes 12:13:30 how do we know that happens? e40, how? check our personal values and hold others accountable and challenge if we see those bias. discrepancies raise an issue 12:14:13 attorneys, who knows any attorney? b12? yes. are they here in town? Tim Morgan. what practice? friend of his. talk to him about law? no. b76? my son. asked you that before? yes. b35? friend from hometown and friends I went to college with. civil or criminal? split. discuss law? no sir... b37? married to attorney, anybody else? attorneys from work that work on cases like personal injuries. criminal or civic? not that I'm aware of. interfere in any way? no sir. b51? neighbor. corporate lawyer... 12:17:03 e6? I know a woman in Colorado in contract law... e40? several from college, woman I rent house from is in real estate law and she's in Texas. e54? I do know people who are attorneys but I don't discuss with them. 12:17:53 e73? friends and family. criminal law? no 12:18:05 g47? friends' mother for Volusia. civil law. interfere? no. g14? I know a couple attorneys through boy scout, but I don't know criminal. no interference no. 12:18:59 k95? several from network associations, patent, tax and contract. no criminal? not that I know of. interference? no sir 12:19:23 k80? friends and legal counsel at our company. criminal? no. interference? no 12:19:43 e13? moms side of families, some attorneys? criminal? I have no idea.. influence? no 12:20:04 e22? three attorneys, all civil. interfere? no 12:20:14 b61? several from college, all civil and no interference 12:20:28 h6? know an attorney that does workers comp law. interfere? no 12:20:43 h7? department of defense, contract lawyers. nephew in environmentalism 12:20:50 h29? several from my profession. interfere? no 12:21:09 h81? I know 20-25 attorneys. criminal? a handful. discussions about the law? most involved around consumer law. interfere as juror? that wouldn't influence me 12:21:56 h86? past employers were attorneys... insight into law? no 12:22:09 i33? several lawyers both civil and criminal. interfere with decision? no. 12:22:40 anybody associated with law, judges? i33? I know a few sir... 12:23:01 interfere in any way to be a juror? no. 12:23:14 personal questions about arrest, victim of crime, if it's something you want in private let us know. need to know impact it may have. 12:24:02 front row, arrested? b12, here in Seminole? Daytona. still pending? no thrown out of court, never went. would that experience factor in to be fair juror? no. set aside? I was only 17 so yeah. feel you were treated fairly? for who I was with... hold against Florida? no. hold against Zimmerman? no. 12:25:07 b29? Chicago. still pending? it's been disposed of? yeah. interfere with you? no. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes. 12:25:36 b35? orange county. still pending? no. disposed of? yes. how long ago? 1987. unfairly treated? no. prosecuted or case dismissed? I was prosecuted. hold against? no. treated fairly? yes 12:26:24 e6? in Florida, Brevard back in 1999. pending? no. treated fairly. 12:27:13 h7? 40 years ago state of Texas. not pending? correct. treated fairly? absolutely. it was acquitted. hold against? no 12:28:04 h81? Seminole. pending? no. how long ago? yr. and a half ago. treated fairly? yes. no charges it was detained.. no charges. hold against? no 12:28:55 i33? Seminole. pending? no. treated unfairly? yes. arrested or prosecuted? both. won't hold it against anybody. what happened to your case? go to court, pay a fine. won't hold against? no sir. 12:30:00 anybody been a subject of criminal investigation? no from everybody 12:30:14 close friend arrested and you felt was treated unfairly? b7? family or close friend? close friend. pending? no. orange county. arrested unfairly. dropped? I don't know. hold against? no. 12:31:13 k95? friend in Ohio arrested and treated unfairly. pending? no. when she was incarcerated. drop charges on her? no. told by the judge she could take medicine and they didn't give to her, brought her to hospital 12:32:28 b61? someone was arrested, treated unfairly. charges were dropped. here in Florida? yes. pending? no. hold against? no. 12:33:06 A LOT OF YOU HERE.... AN HOUR ENOUGH? COME BACK AT 1:45. WHILE ON LUNCH BREAK, GO WITH EACH OTHER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THIS CASE. NO RADIO OR TV REPORTS. NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES. ASSURANCE TO ABIDE BY INSTRUCTIONS? 12:34:23 COURT IN RECESS FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:45 ================================================ 13:46:07 PLEASE BE SEATED. BACK ON RECORD. DO WE HAVE THE JURORS BACK? COUNCIL APPROACH FOR JUST A MOMENT (sidebar) 14:02:46 PLEASE BE SEATED. WELCOME BACK. APPEARS TO BE HERE AND IN CORRECT PLACES. DURING LUNCH DID ANY OF YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? DID ANY OF YOU READ OR LISTEN TO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE? USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE ABOUT THE CASE? READ OR CREATE ANY THING ABOUT THE CASE? 14:03:39 rionda: welcome back. 14:04:05 h81... a friend or close family member? close friend. in Seminole? no. Pennsylvania. treated unfairly? yes. in prosecution. hold against us? I would no. interfere? it would not. 14:05:05 were you a victim of a crime that it impacted you so much you wouldn't be able to participate? 14:05:26 b76? yes. b7? yes. b86? yes. anybody else? e40? e73? second row: e22? k80? k95? last row: g81? h7? h35? h81? i33? i44? did I get everybody? 14:06:35 violent crime? e73, b86, k80, e22. 14:07:09 you have to set it aside for the purposes of this trial. agree to leave outside court room... think you cannot, raise your hand... e73? just because of the nature that happened to you? it was a very similar crime. wouldn't be able to.... set it aside? it's always in my mind. 14:08:27 anybody else? 14:08:49 victims of crime, let me broaden criteria... crime to your household, felt police did not do a good job investigating? b7. home break in. here in Seminole? it was. they didn't do a good job? they didn't investigate at all. do you think that would impact you at all in this case to sit as juror or can you set aside? no. it wasn't a big deal. agree to leave outside court? yeah. 14:10:17 in that case, were you present? I came home and scared of burglars I think. chase them? no. knew better? I didn't realize until later.... called police and they didn't respond? when I was in high school, police came and they asked what was stolen and officer asked me if any of my friends did this. ever find out who it was? no. anybody else? 14:11:31 b86... many years ago, fast food restaurant. police officer scared us more than the person who just robbed us with the gun. going to our car when gun was pulled on us, we ran back into the restaurant after guy grabbed a bag... police knocked on door and we thought it was the guy again. make him go around so we can see him. tell us you're a police officer, he said "this isn't TV". hold against? no. know who was arrested? yes. he hit us twice, finally got caught. testify? no I couldn't pick him out. 14:13:33 does anybody live in community in which there is no crime? anybody? collective no. 14:14:02 steps to address it in your neighborhood? e54... I assume there's crime in my neighborhood, not personally aware of it. 14:14:42 k95... I would put up a no soliciting sign in my neighborhood. effective? yes. anything further? no. there's a neighborhood watch. are you a part of it? no. 14:15:12 e73... we had a sudden increase in crime in neighborhood. they started a watch. join it? no, but went to a meeting. set up in uniform? no. armed? I don't think so. not involved in watch? no 14:15:54 anybody else? b76... just had teens vandalizing signs... police took care of it. we had a watch I just told them about it. any steps yourself to get involved? telling the other neighbors 14:16:30 b35...still with us... closing your eyes just want to make sure 14:16:51 b7: what was the question again. crime in community and you got involved? no. 14:17:26 feel like people have the right to take law into their own hands? anybody? i5 shaking your head.... there may be occasions, but basically I would say no. g63... crimes in neighborhood? I'm assuming? watch in your community? not that I'm aware of. your last question was very general we have governments that we authorize to do that. 14:19:17 as individuals people shouldn't. g7, agree? where is the process or a citizen's arrest. I don't know how it applies. 14:19:45 other than what law allows, try to arrest people on your own? never have. i24, ever crossed your mind to arrest someone? no but I would do something if they tried to break into my house. id protect my family 14:20:34 can everybody agree the law applies equally to everyone? yes. it should or it doesn't? 14:20:54 b7.... hear a lot about it in the news. always believe? not always. 14:21:13 law matter about which part of county? no. difference in wealth class? no. matter if gated or not? no. where they're from? no. b72, it shouldn't matter? no. why not? when you see the law, the law applies to everyone it doesn't discriminate or consider race or sex. if we use this as criteria, the whole system goes down. 14:22:26 should it matter about race gender or ethnicity? no. 14:22:53 ever been a witness and testify? g81... was it here in Seminole? no. orange. proceeding or hearing or trial? it was juvenile system, proceeding. testify? yes. treated fairly by lawyers and judge and deputies? yes I was. anything about that you felt would interfere? nothing that happened there 14:23:56 h7: I've given depositions before. was it unpleasant it would influence you? no it was not. representation from both sides and told them what I knew. told the truth as best you could remember? yes 14:25:03 h29... I've been deposed before. anything about that experience? I was on the good guy side, never got to the other side. 14:25:23 h81... deposition, hearing, trial? I've been a witness a few times... treated unfairly? no. 14:26:00 i24... I was a witness in a car accident. eye witness? yeah and we had to verify who hit who. more than one? several people. all have to come to court? no we all went to court and stood in front of judge and told her what we saw. questioning you? just the judge... 14:27:00 g63... witness for criminal trial in orange county. eye witness? I was an eye witness to nothing. still called? yes. badgered in any way by either side? no. it wasn't unpleasant it was inconvenient. impact you? no 14:27:48 k80.... witness in child custody case. in front of court? no jury, just a judge. treated fairly? yes, no badgering.. civil questions. 14:28:22 k95... federal lawsuit case, it wasn't a good experience. because of way you were treated? yes. by who? attorneys and judge. judge nelson? no. it wasn't in this state. attorneys were asking improper questions? I was told I was at an economic disadvantage. scream back at them? kept my cool and had to pay it off. terrible experience? yes. hold against? no this was business 14:29:50 e22... I've been deposed. treated fairly? yes. deposition end there or another proceeding? never went to trial. that experience that you were treated unfairly? no. 14:30:30 e6... custody trial and domestic violence... nothing about the proceedings. treated fairly? yes. impact? no. e40... witness to car accident, no jury... I was treated fairly. other people eye witness too. there when other witnesses testified? I was around... 20 years ago though. 14:31:40 all read the witness list... cover that. how you know the person and the impact of that.... 14:32:16 e6... SHES IN SEAT NUMBER 9, GIVE HER LIST. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. recognize that as yours? yes. circled two names on front page. one of them starts with d and j... professional or social? I recognize the name I don't personally know them. recognize them as physician. impact you? no it would not. also have under that name, three down from that. know the name? I don't know them personally, received referral to her for one of my children. impact? no. some on last page... last name with w recognize name or the person? just the name. impact? no. third from bottom starts with z and s? know them? no. recognize name? yes. impact? no. 14:35:16 i33.... first page, last name starts with b and first name is c. know them or recognize name? right, could be somebody that I name... I have no idea if I know them or not. assuming it's the same person you know, what do they do for a living? construction business. person you know is him? correct. with the work you do? yes. if he testified, find him more credible? no sir, not necessarily no. if it's the same person could you rely just on what they said as opposed to knowing them? absolutely. another name with a c and a b? correct. recognize? just heard the name. no impact on you? no sir. first person/ another relationship, fun thing and I see him once a year... fun thing, activity? yeah it would ID me. you interact with him though? yes sir 14:38:23 last page, last name w and n? yes. recognize or personal? recognize name. know them other than that? no. 14:38:45 toward bottom of page, z and s? recognize the name. impact? no sir 14:39:22 juror number.... second page j and c... know them? as a celebrity... not the person that were talking about here. ok? and someone else.... last page last name with w and d? how do you know them? name I think I recognize. impact? no. 14:40:29 b61.... last page, at top? yes. personal or professional? if same person it's personal but haven't seen them in 2-3 years. friends? yes. exercise together. hear them on witness stand find them more or less credible? it wouldn't impact if it were any other witness. how close, how much interaction? person in social organization, saw her a lot for a while. over a yr. or two? a couple years while I was in school. is this person still a member of that organization? yes. impact you? no 14:42:49 hear from witness, evaluate based on insurrections from court? yes. g47, depend if witness has job? no. why? irrelevant to the case. g29 does it matter if they're law enforcement? no. everyone agree? yes 14:43:37 e54 agree with that? sure 14:43:41 law allows for certain witnesses to be treated differently, experts can give opinion opposed to other witnesses. e13... agree with that? yes would say.. e28 agree? yes. why? they're experts in that field. evaluate and use instructions from court and the expertise? yes 14:44:43 b51.... agree with that? I do. why? education or experience and wouldn't call on them to discuss position or opinion without experience. ever had to rely on expert testimony? not testimony. go to expert for advice? no. anybody? b7.... rely on experts on constant basis 14:45:41 b35... agree? yes. why? practice in their field. b76 agree? yes. b12... agree? yes. why? education and school and have knowledge of that. H69 HAS QUESTIONS. h69: if attorney asked for opinion and they didn't just interject it? yes. that they asked for opinion and they didn't just interject opinion. if attorneys ask expert could you rely on his opinion? yes. why? I'm going to assume a witness researches before getting on the stand... rely on expert if both side find them to be an expert 14:47:55 in this type of case, since the trial is murder.... H86... also wondering if witness on stand only giving facts or opinions unless were asking for their opinion? right... e6... clarify to me I would believe an expert has studied and accumulated knowledge in area, but sometimes experts don't always agree even if in the same field, how is that treated? use your common sense and if it's credible. judge will give instructions about that. expert can give opinion. you can find an opinion with the one you wanted... You decide... 14:50:21 juror number..... person is an expert and we assume they are.. court will give you a ruling on that. expert is entitled to give opinion. if a juror finds a person is qualified as expert they don't have to accept that opinion. you would hear their qualifications and make that determination. 14:51:44 exposed to photos you've never been exposed to, problem looking at photos? does everyone understand the question? ok? yes 14:52:29 b37 you're fine with that... yes. b35.. yes 14:52:39 everyone else agree? yes 14:52:44 law enforcement experience? nobody. h86? not myself, but two aunts and uncles who are lieutenants. 14:53:19 h86, family in law enforcement? yes. departments here in Seminole? I believe it's orange. discuss matters with them about justice system? in the past I have. impact your decision? no. how extensive, more than 1? 3 family members. close with them? 2 of them. interact on weekly basis? yes. uniform? yes. how long in field? over 20 years. look up to them for advice? in general, yes. pursue law enforcement career? no. 14:54:37 k95... when you say law enforcement, but 40 years ago I worked in retail where I used to watch shop lifters... watched them and recorded them. apprehend them? no. I just do my job and report to manager.... someone else would apprehend? yes. successful? yes. how? bust a lot of my sisters friends. 14:55:50 anybody else I overlooked... i24? sort of in same situation... I didn't catch them. I did translation when they did get caught and they didn't speak English. for a company who had a lot of guests who got caught shop lifting. what language? Portuguese. several years? quite a lot. enjoy it? yes. anything that would interfere? no. k95... anything that would interfere? no 14:57:01 anybody else? k80.... family members. tell me? uncle who was in SWAT and cousin is NCIS agent. occasions to discuss with them? no. there are stories after the fact. interfere? no 14:57:42 b35.... family members mom worked for sheriff's department and cousins in police in Titusville. see them regularly? once or twice a year. discussions about job? 14:58:14 how come you didn't join department? first not to go into law enforcement because I went to school. not exciting enough? make a little more money and wanted to do my own thing. impact you one way or another? no. more incline to favor police officer? no 14:59:05 b7.... law enforcement, my wife used to work in the field, often had discussions about it. her job and dealing with victims? absolutely. how do you feel about that, would it impact you here? no. it was a while ago. in this case you have a victim, favor state in this case? no. wouldn't impact you? not when I last served on jury 15:00:13 b86... I used to do transcription for private investigator... a while ago? 15 yes ago in orange. former officer? yeah. record and you would transcribe? yes. impact favoring? no. 15:00:54 e6... include close friends? anybody important for us to know about.... family friend he was SWAT detective... he just left the force and went into private sector but served almost 17 years... impact your opinion? no 15:01:41 b12.... my dad was a Syracuse cop and my nephew is FBI agent. anything about nature of that would favor one side? no. 15:02:36 h69... any family member? yeah. cousin who works for government.... she's working with homeland security... opportunities to discuss her job? some times. anything about what she does you feel would impact you one way or another? no. desire to join her? it sounds exciting, but not for me 15:03:34 k95.... family or friends? yes someone important to let us know. acquaintances from homeland security and friend that is head of security. discuss criminal matters? no. the law? no. 15:04:14 k80.... friends? some close to you. neighbors son in law is US Marshall... and another Seminole county deputy and then another one and family friend have deputies at jail... discussions with them? no. interfere? no 15:05:02 e22.... close friend who was in law enforcement for 2 decades... discussions? interfere? no. 15:05:27 g66... my brother in law retired from police enforce, my niece is.... discuss matters? about what they do. desire to join? when I was younger. impact you? no 15:06:05 H7 HAS HAND UP... h7: friends through boy scouts. never discussed outside of scouts. no impact one way or another 15:06:29 i19... my uncle is police officer. still? yes. local? somewhere else. impact you? no. 15:06:57 i24... husband's niece is married to gentleman in fbi. anything about that? no. 15:07:19 i33... my wife's father is retired sheriff. no impact. in this county? different state. impact you? no 15:07:44 anybody in this room that has not had a dispute with another person? anybody? physical dispute? b35... verbal to physical. a long time ago? yeah. resolve it between you two? once or twice police were called. impact you? no sir 15:08:34 anybody else? e6... I was involved in domestic violence. impact? no. b7? fight in middle school... (Everyone laughs) I think I lost. any impact? no 15:09:33 k95... just domestic. impact you? no. 15:09:45 disputes where you worked it out? everyone? b61 have you? yes. how? talk about it. 15:10:19 g66? dispute where you resolved? yes. without violence? yes. talking loud walking away 15:10:34 medical experience, in the field one way or another? g47....registered EMT. impact? not that I'm aware of. k95... CNA and activity director. anyone else? e40... certified health care officer. b12.... 15:11:42 e28.... medical. h86? home health CNA before RN. 15:12:07 other than b72... fitness people? h18... work out all the time? lifting every morning, play tennis... e13.... weight lift and run and go to gym. b72... wrestling, anybody else wrestle? boxing? h29... trying to get more George Forman on.... in the military. how well? middle levels before someone was young. I remember 5, 6.... (everyone's laughing) 15:13:46 anybody else? g63... weight lifting? yes. training for sport. endurance type thing? weight lifting. for a year? yes. 15:14:09 h18... boxing? martial arts since I was a kid. 15:14:36 involved in martial arts? yes. green belt. b86.... tae-kwon-do with my kids... couple years senior blue belt. 15:15:16 training in phonetics? linguistics? I did sign language many years ago. (juror number) 15:15:41 e13... four years of sign language 15:15:49 live in gated community? g63... 4 years ago community had security guard in its entrance. i19, h86, h81.... 15:16:28 live in neighborhood with a watch? b7... seen the signs, but I'm... b35? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e73? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. e22 watch? sign but I don't know who's on it? involved? no. k80? watch? yes. involved? no and my husband is block captain but I don't know what he does. k95? yes. watch? yes. involved? no. (two more jurors... not involved) 15:18:32 g63... not where I live but before, I don't know who was involved. 15:18:45 last row: h18? involved? no. h29... we have signs. involved? no. I know some ladies who are. 15:19:18 anybody consider expert in DNA? no from everybody 15:19:51 who does not have a cell phone? everyone has one. anyone an expert on cell phones? i44... working knowledge of that.... 15:20:27 expert someone beyond being able to turn it on. (juror number): I am... witness? no. records of calls?. anyone else. b7? same circumstance. e73? same responses. g47: I consider myself tech savvy. k95: I have a lot of jobs, work in IT. 15:21:53 agree people dress differently? way they dress does it matter? no. 15:22:22 assume certain things based on attire? e6... lots of different things. woman dressed or wearing expensive things....rich? either that or give that appearance. if they're not, they're poor? could mean many different things. known wealthy man who preferred to dress down. we make assumptions 15:23:30 in terms of law, what does it say about assumptions? they don't count. 15:24:04 this case the victim, martin and defendant are different race, does it matter? no. h35... does it matter? absolutely not. that doesn't matter ever anywhere.... everyone agree? yes 15:24:35 victim as court read was under 18... O'Mara: approach? YES (sidebar) 15:27:49 IS EVERYONE OK TO GO ON? GO AHEAD 15:27:58 rionda: victim was under 18, does anyone believe his life is worth less because he was a minor? no. black African America, worth less? no 15:28:37 believe in right to bear arms? yes 15:28:41 who has a firearm or access to one? b35... personally own? yes. more than one? yes. target practice and hunting. what kind? caliber and shot gun. proficient? yes train in military. how often? a couple months. holster? yes. more than one? yes. internal or external? external. concealed permit? yes. 15:29:54 b76... I don't have any in our home, but we have family members that do in their own home. any experience yourself? no 15:30:12 b37.... used to have concealed weapons permit. husband wanted me to renew but I don't have a gun... no point. I can shoot a gun. we used to go out to range and shooting. basic familiarity with it 15:30:49 e6... husband has 9 millimeter, .38 and rifles... my son has a hunting rifle and bb guns. you yourself involved in firing? went to range one time and sometimes target practice with bb guns 15:31:27 e40.. brother in law has hunting rifles 15:31:38 b12.... fired a gun one time in my life and fell on my but, my son has gun and my mom and sister 15:31:57 m75.... my brother in law has 2 guns, a .38 and another handgun. shooting with him? no... goes with my sister and daughter 15:32:25 b61 repeat? do you have a firearm or have access to one. 15:32:37 ever fired a gun... recreational... 15:32:49 b7 my father has some. 15:33:03 e22... good friend has a firearm 15:33:09 e13... my step dad has a few, went and fired once 15:33:20 b86.... fired one once 15:33:43 k80.... yes own firearms... fired before? yes. familiar. own one yourself and carry with holster? no. no concealed weapons 15:34:10 k95.... I do and my son does. 15:34:17 p67... no I don't 15:34:25 g66... yes I have a .32. fire on occasion? periodically. holster? no 15:34:46 i44... hand gun. fire yourself? yes 15:35:00 i33... rifles. shooting purposes? hunting 15:35:16 i24.... handguns. revolver? yes 15:35:26 i19.... my father has them for hunting.. shoot yourself? no 15:35:38 h86... my brother in law has several. shot yourself? yes. handgun and a rifle. know the difference between semi-automatic and revolver? yes 15:36:07 h81... go to range, but don't shoot my own guns 15:36:22 (juror number) .. mom has one 15:36:29 h29...... I have daughters, so I have shot guns.... revolver and rifle 15:36:48 h18... I do. 15:36:57 h7... yes I do. member of nra? yes. anybody else? no 15:37:08 h6... father owns numerous guns and I've gone with him to the range 15:37:34 have guns or are familiar, responsibility with having one? yes. believe than h7? absolutely. everyone agree with him? yes 15:37:55 agree with that i44? yes. 15:38:01 anybody not agree? everyone agrees 15:38:12 defendant charged with murder in second degree, haven't heard evidence I don't want opinion, but can you follow a law...state has to prove victim is dead, the death was caused by criminal act of Zimmerman, and unlawful killing of martin by an act dangerous to another in a depraved mind without regard to human life.... act includes series of related to.... immanently dangerous to a deprived mind if an act that a person of ordinary judgment was known to seriously kill or done from ill will or of such nature it indicates indifferent to human life... follow that? yes. 15:40:11 not necessary for state to prove intent... 15:40:28 doesn't require certain number of shots or motive 15:40:46 understand there can be defenses to crimes, understand? yes 15:41:10 insanity or self-defense... justifiable use of deadly force...follow instruction about that? yes. 15:41:38 last week and this week about media and publicity and hardship... most of you heard that both sides expect trial to last 2-4 weeks....jury will be sequestered... family member p67... letter that it would be hardship. in addition to what you said? yes. anybody else in that predicament? b61: can you explain sequestered 15:43:42 housed together, but interaction with others will be limited.... won't be able to go home at night. contact with outside world limited. have some contact, court will give instructions about that... monitored contact. 15:45:36 b7... first time I heard about it.... I have questions that are.... 15:45:48 e6... I didn't realize, does that include weekends... YES ENTIRE TIME OF TRIAL. ok.... 15:46:11 b37: you have some contact with family. ALL THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED LATER, WILL HAVE CONTACT BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED.. WILL HAVE CONTACT 15:46:37 b6... include telephone calls can they visit? ALLOWED TO VISIT, LIMITED AS TO TIME...LIMITED PHONE CONTACT... emails? YES IT WILL BE LIMITED. YOU WON'T BE CUT OFF FROM FAMILY, STAYING IN A FACILITY, HOTEL IN THE AREA AND ALL MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED AND TRANSPORTATION AND PERSON NEEDS DURING THE TRIAL. 15:47:38 k80: if this group is sequestered where we can't return to our homes, will this case be 7 days a week? NO. so everyone gets to go home on weekends but we can't? CORRECT. PLANNED ACTIVITIES FOR YOU, THERE WILL BE MEALS... I MEAN ITS... MORE WILL BE EXPLAINED 15:48:29 rionda: attorneys and court will be busy with other matters, were not going on vacation for the weekend 15:49:01 can all of you agree since you haven't heard evidence you have to keep open mind? yes. understand that part of process is that decision needs to be unanimous? yes. 15:49:31 haven't heard evidence, presuming defendant innocent? yes. use common sense and evidence for decision? yes. could you convict him if evidence showed he was guilty? yes. and opposite? yes 15:50:11 people should be held responsible and accountable for actions? yes. picked as juror and evaluating evidence, use god given common sense to get verdict that speaks the truth? yes. 15:50:40 I'm going to sit down.... but before I do... any matter that you think you need to bring to my attention? collective no. thank you very much 15:51:16 15 MINUTE... O'Mara: approach. YES (sidebar) 15:56:15 how long will we have to get our stuff in order... I WILL TELL YOU WHEN SELECTED ON JURY 15:56:34 b61: questionnaire did that say anything about sequestering. YES IT DID... ITS NOT AS LONG AS INDICATED 15:57:04 ITS BEEN A LONG DAY AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE O'MARA BEGIN VOIR DIRE AND KEEP YOU LATE AND HAVE SPLIT IT UP... RELEASE FOR THE NIGHT. COME BACK AT 9 AM. NOT TO READ OR LISTEN TO RADIO OR TV REPORTS, NOT TO DISCUSS CASE. NOT TO USE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO GET ON INTERNET. NOT TO READ OR CREATE SOCIAL NETWORKING PAGES ABOUT CASE. ASSURANCE YOU WILL ABIDE? yes. ANY ISSUE... PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. P67...INDICATED MAYBE HAVING THINGS TO DISCUSS, PLEASE REMAIN AND WILL DISCUSS AFTER THAT. EVERYONE ELSE AT A QUARTER TO 9 AM. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 15:59:54 COMFORTABLE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. 16:00:01 rionda: P67 letter from a family member? my wife wrote about it. trouble to serve? yes. tell us more? don't tell us where you work, but the media has rights to be present. work related? yes. express in letter? yes. wife wrote letter because she's more fluent in English? yes. had her write it because she could say it better? part for her and part for me she's worried about the situation. create hardship with wife and monetary? yes. like lately my little one I don't know what she heard in the news, lately she's been living with me thinking somebody is going to get me. also nice to discover how much she loves me 16:02:28 would that in your opinion impact you to pay attention? yes. of course. anything else you want to say to judge about that? that's all. just about my family. oh the other thing, the leveling or title... been things in media that my wife and older kids.. for example: media ask a resident or citizen or Hispanic, but then don't like how media express or a nickname all over the internet. media put your name on the internet or a certain way? yes. how did you find out? my wife found out through internet and my two biggest ones. they wanted to know what's going on with dad. your wife and kids saw on internet and alerted you and you said you didn't want to talk about it? yeah. impact on your kid and wife? yes. concern about that as a result? yes. interfere with paying attention? yes. 16:05:02 O'Mara: minor concerns and I want to see if they stack... media? yes. media in court room prohibited from putting you on camera... I am, but you are not... they can't put your face or information... not public, understand that? yes sir. concern to be they have identified you by some descriptors, like a white female whatever... and you they described as well? yes. concerned by a term the way the described you? I prefer they call me a resident or citizen or Hispanic. the other one telling my kids or wife..... something else on the internet? told me they saw "Mexican". concern to be Mexican than resident? yes. 16:07:22 sounds like they were labeling you? yes which I'm not happy about.... I represent the system, we apologize about any insensitivity from the media... as juror you're being exposed to that in a profile case its unavoidable... not sure we can un-do that.... maybe media will learn lesson to be culturally sensitive. 16:08:17 30 days your employer doesn't need to pay you? that's a part of it 16:08:28 about the service and the jury I noticed a couple things, seemed to me you were looking forward to it as a citizen, feel that way still? yes, but if it takes this long... issues. I was thinking 2-3 weeks, yeah let's get it done... without guessing too much we may start Monday.... last 2-4 weeks and then you deliberate and we'd be done.... timeline put out there now.... 16:09:38 mention that because of the publicity, your little ones was wrapping arms around your leg... a loss for you and family temporarily if here with us... such imposition that it is insurmountable, you can't do it for destroying purposes? my family will be destroyed. if not to that level... hoping you would consider it... inconvenient for you, accomplish if we ask you to, 2-4 weeks? definite inconvenience. not trying to minimize that, but as citizens as we take on the role of doing everything, there's not much more asked of our citizens but war and ask them to serve on jurors... 16:12:04 if we ask you, is it something that you can accomplish even past its inconvenience? 16:12:34 judge will clear up the confusion, but in sequestration being with us you will have contact with family, telephone monitored, visits with family members monitored... not in prison but in situation where you maintain contact but supervised way to protect process...any questions that I can help answer for you to make decision to sit as juror 16:13:54 I just want to you to consider my situation. if pick you can you sit with us? if that's the only option I guess... well you can say no, but if it's an inconvenience, say yes... if it's because of destruction than you can't.... call is yours. if you can under what we talked about.... I just can't with consequences coming if over 4 weeks. I don't want to end up on the street. if I was single, it wouldn't be a problem. 16:15:09 rionda: the media itself or the internet with comments? they saw on internet, I don't know where.... EXCUSED FOR EVENING, SEE YOU TOMORROW IN THE MORNING. 16:15:44 PLEASE BE SEATED, COUNCIL COME TO BENCH..(sidebar) 16:16:22 COURT RECESS FOR THE DAY ====================================
Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore
[Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore] [NEW YORK, NY] Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore appears on the Regis Philbin show. (see dcbw2003K) Gore notes from Dana Hill (not time coded) 10/19/00 Live with Regis New York, NY Taped at ABC Studios in New York on Thursday, Oct. 19. Slide says the name of the show is "Live with Regis." ABC staff said the co-host was Ronda Jamgotchian, a lawyer from Anaheim, Calif., who was on her second day after winning a stint in a "real people" competition that had an online component. Gore wore a dark suit, white shirt without buttons and a powder blue tie with a small, dark pattern. Regis: "So how are you?" Gore: "I'm enjoying it. Great to see all of you here." Applause. Regis: "How do you relax on the campaign trail with all of these hands to shake and -" Gore: "I like to have some time to myself each day. Exercise. Make sure that I get enough sleep. That's-- [Chuckle] That's, that's really they key to it." Regis: "It's really all work now, isn't it. You know, so many questions I want to ask you. But story has it that your roommate at Harvard was -'' Ronda: "Tommy Lee Jones." Regis: "Tommy Lee Jones - I've interviewed before. Very intense guy." Gore: "He is intense." Regis: "Very, very intense guy." Gore: "Yeah." Regis: "Some people would even think, you know, Tommy can be a little scary." [Everyone laughs] Regis: "Your first night at Harvard. It's just you and Tommy in the room there." Gore: "Well, I'll tell you. This is a true story. When I arrived as a freshman, I walked into the room and the lights were off and I thought nobody was there. And I suddenly noticed that in the middle of the room, in a straight-backed chair, motionless, was this guy." [Laughter] Regis: "Oh, no kidding. So what did I tell ya?" Gore: "He was a great actor in college, also." Regis: "Really?" Gore: "And he was a STAR: football player. Did you know that?" Regis: "I didn't know that." Gore: "Absolutely. He was a fantastic football player." Regis: "What was he doing in the darkness, sitting there?" Gore: "He was getting used to the room, I guess. [Laughter] But we became very, very close friends that first year and we've remained close all these years." Regis: "Ah, that's great." Ronda: "We hear that you're a practical joker." Gore: "Yeah, sometimes. I like that." Ronda: "Any, uh, any you can tell us about - maybe on the president or someone else we might know?" Gore: One time, one time when Tipper and I were on our farm in Tennessee, I found a bottle of Nair. [Laughter] I was in the shower and so I used my regular shampoo and lathered my hair all up and then, you know, I wiped it away from eyes and I took the bottle of Nair and I walked out to Tipper and I said, 'What IS this stuff?'" [During the story, Gore made a lathering motion, and gently wiped shampoo from his eyes with both hands, then acted like he was holding up the bottle. Then big laughter.] Regis: Thank God it didn't work, huh? Gore: Yeah. She was already a little freaked about me losing my hair. Ronda: Didn't help matters. Gore: It didn't help, no. Regis: But you grew up in Tennessee. Here's a picture of you and your dad, the famous senator from Tennessee. Gore: I actually grew up in two places. I grew up - see, he worked in Washington, D.C., so I went to school there most of the time. And every summer was in Tennessee. Tennessee always felt like that was home even though I spent more months out of the year in Washington. Regis: But in the summers, you were in Tennessee on the farm. Gore: Right. Regis: Now as I understand it, they tell me that you could in your prime there as a farmboy - Gore: Yeah? Regis: -- hypnotize a chicken. Is that true? Gore: Your research staff has been too thorough. Regis: You can hypnotize a chicken. Gore: I can. I can. It is a little-known farm skill passed down from teenage wizard to teenage wizard. Regis: Would it work on a chicken like me? [Laughter] Gore: Well, you're no SPRING chicken. [Laughter and applause] I think it would. Regis: OK. Gore: I think it would. Regis: Show me. Gore: All right now, the way it works is, you stay right there. [Gore stands up.] Ronda: Should I back away cuz I don't want to - Gore: No - I think you're, I think you're fine. But with chicken, you, you, you draw a circle-- Regis: Bawk, bawk, bawk! Gore: --slowly around their heads [Gore is circling Rege's head with one finger] Gore: until [and now Gore slows his speech down hypnotically] Gore: all of a sudden they sudden they go under. Regis, incredulous, eyes wide open: That's it? Gore: No - no, no, no. It's not working yet. All right, now, Regis Regis; Yes? Gore, slow, rhythmic, hypnotic voice: "Between now and November seventh" [laughter from studio audience] Gore: "you will say good things about the Gore-Lieberman ticket." [Mild laughter] Regis: Gore: All right [Applause from studio audience] Regis: Let me just ask you now - you glad these debates are over? Gore: Well, I wanted more of them but I'm happy with the way they went. I had a good in the debates Regis: It was almost like a different Al Gore every night Gore: Different format. For me, it was kinda like the story of Goldilocks. The first one was too hot, the second too cool. The third one was just right [When Gore says "just right," he makes an OK sign with a thumb and finger in each hand, and drops his voice into a rich tone as if he were plugging Colombian coffee] Ronda: These town-hall-type forums are actually - you're comfortable with Gore: Yeah, I like that and I want to have them on a regular basis as president. And I may use the use same kind of technique that the debate commission used, to use the polling technique to get a real cross-section of each community and then instead of spending time talking with advisers in the nation's capital, go out all the time, on a regular basis at least, to cities all over the country and communities and talk to a cross-section of each community so that challenges that need to be discussed are always aired so that you're really getting it straight from the American people. Regis: Well, I guess you learned a lot during these last three months because you got out there and shook those hands Gore: Yeah. Regis: and listened to those voters. Gore: Yeah. Regis: Now, among other things, you had time to climb Mount Rainier. Gore: "I did, yeah." Regis: With your son? Gore: With my son. It was a wonderful father-son experience. [Regis starts to ask a question starting with "How," but Gore plunges ahead with his story] Gore: Tipper and I have four children. Our youngest is our son. And we went out and climbed that mountain together. We trained together and it was really a hard climb. Regis: Now, I notice everywhere you go, the Secret Service guys are all over. [crosstalk, laughter] Ronda: Did they accompany you to the top of the mountain Regis: To the top? Gore: Some of 'em did. Some of 'em did. Yeah. Ronda: Are you they still speaking to you now? Gore: "Oh, yeah. You know, a few - a couple of years ago, my two oldest daughters and I ran marathon together - the Marine Corps marathon. But the climb up Mount Rainier was significantly hard for me Regis: I'll bet Gore: than a marathon. It-that was REALLY tough. But it was a great - it's a great memory for my son and me to have. Regis: Absolutely. You've got the three girls. Now, would you say you're a strict father as far as dating is concerned. Gore: Oh, I don't know. My oldest daughter compared me to that Robert Deniro character in "Meet the Parents."[laughter] Regis: You give them a good look-over? Gore: Not really, not really. Regis: When they come in. Gore: Well, yeah, I did. They're all - Our daughters are almost grown up now. Regis: But they're very attractive girls, you know. Gore: Thank you. Ronda: In fact, you have a, you have a new grandchild ? is that? A year old? Gore: Yes. ["yes" was enthusiastic, like Yyyes, but not like Marv Albert] Gore: Our grandson is almost a year and a half old ? Wyatt. And did I mention he was born on the fourth of July? [laughter and Oh! From the studio audience] Ronda: No, you didn't! Gore: He has excellent timing. He's really great. He called me on the phone the other day. [Gore pauses] Regis: Did he? What did he say? Gore: Well, I had talked to his mom ? my oldest daughter, Karenna ?- the night before. And early the next morning, I was eatin' breakfast. The phone rang, and I heard a baby's voice. And the closer I listened ? this is a true story ? I listened more closely and I was certain that it was my grandson. And so I said, well, "Wyatt!" And Karenna was in the other room, heard the speakerphone and came in and picked up the phone and said, "Dad?" And I said, "Karenna?" And she said, "Oh, my gosh. Wyatt has called you on the phone." Now, and then she said, I didn't even know that that redial button worked. Now, see, I think that ? I think she was jumping, perhaps, to the wrong conclusion. I think he may have actually wanted to call me." [Laughter and big applause] Regis: He's a genius! We'll be right back with the Vice President Gore. [continuing applause] --- SEGMENT TWO [Applause] Regis: Vice President Al Gore, our guest. A nice cover of you on Rolling Stone this week. Gore: Oh, yes, very -- Regis: That was a nice story, there. And, incidentally, there's something about a good cop, bad cop routine that you've, have done with President Clinton from time to time. Gore: Yeah, well sometimes if, you know, a foreign leader comes in and there's ? you know, the role of vice president is sometimes, means that you have to deliver the hard-edge message. I much prefer, uh, the way ? Regis: Being a good guy? Gore: "Well, yeah, 'course. But when I was in the Congress ? I was in the House of Representatives for eight years and the Senate for eight years before I became vice president ? and there, I was known for working across party lines, working with Republicans. I supported former President Reagan in modernizing our military. I supported former President Bush ? Governor Bush's father ? by being one of the few Democrats to vote for the Persian Gulf War resolution. I like to work across party lines and bring people together. But I've certainly enjoyed the experience being part of the National Security Council the last eight years. And helping to bring some needed changes to the economy." Regis: Has the president given you any advice during this campaign? Gore: Not too much, no. Because it's something that you really have to do on your own. It's a new time, with new challenges. Regis: How is he taking this? Cuz his days, you know, are numbered. And I get the feeling; He don't want to go. Gore: Well, he, you know, he gets up every morning and, and really works hard. There are so many challenges that need to be attended to. You don't have much time to think about those kinds of things ? you're just working. Regis: I'm sure. Ronda: What's the first thing that you plan to do if you're elected president? Gore: To send the campaign finance reform legislation to the Congress?-the McCain-Feingold bill. And the reason is that all the other challenges really are affected by that. I want prescription drug benefits for all seniors under Medicare. But if the big drug companies have the ability to overwhelm popular opinion with campaign contributions and lobbying, then it's hard to get that done. I want to see a patient's bill of rights that take medical decisions away from the HMOs and give 'em back to the doctors. But if the HMOs and insurance companies have the ability to sway Congress against what the American people want, then it's hard to get that done. So that's the first bill I will send. And then my top priority of all is to bring dramatic, major improvements to public schools. I think that's where our future lies. Ronda: And you're against the voucher, voucher ? Gore: I just don't think that it makes sense to drain taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when too many classrooms are overcrowded, when too many teachers can't even have one-one-one time with students because they're operating in a crowd-control fashion with 35, 40 kids in the classroom. We need to modernize the schools, build new schools. I want to recruit 100,000 new teachers, test students, have new accountability. Also test all the new teachers. But instead of stopping there, then I want to make it the top priority for our national government to help local school boards recruit the teachers, treat teachers like professionals, give 'em the training and professional development they need, modernize all the facilities. And I want to give a $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition to all middle-class families so families can afford to send their kids to college. Regis: What about this Social Security? You and Governor Bush talked about it a lot over the last three debates. And he was saying, Look, the federal government is bringing us a 2 percent return on the money we've invested in our future as Social Security. And he ? Gore: That's not right, actually, but ? Regis: It's not right? Gore: No, because Social Security ? when you pay into Social Security, yes, there is a 2 percent addition to the value. But it's actually much more than that. And it seems lower, because money paid in this year goes to pay the benefits for those who are retired this year. Regis: Mmm. Hmm. Gore: That's the way it's always operated. The problem that I have raised with my opponent's plan is that he's promised a trillion dollars to young workers out of the Social Security trust fund, but he's promised the same trillion dollars to keep from cutting any benefits to retirees. And you can't keep both promises. What I propose, instead, is to put Social Security in a lockbox and protect it ? keep it from being used for anything other than Social Security -- and then give a new tax incentive for young families to save. If you make under $60,000 a year, under my plan, and you set aside a thousand dollars in a savings account, the federal government will match that with a thousand dollars. If you make under $30,000, you need only put $500 in a savings account and the federal government will match that it with $1,500. Regis: Where is that money coming from? Gore: That is coming from cuts in other programs. It's coming from the surplus and it's coming from my decision to have a smaller overall tax cut instead of giving $1.6 trillion in a huge tax cut that goes mostly to the wealthy. Under my opponent's plan, almost half of all his tax cut goes to the wealthiest 1 percent. And in order to qualify for the lion's share of it, you'd have to be able to answer all the questions on your other show. Regis, loudly, "And what's wrong with that?" Ronda: "So, for the undecided voters out there, if you had to put in one sentence why people should vote for you, what would that be?" Gore: "To keep prosperity going, and to make sure that everybody participates. I wanna fight for middle-class families. And remember: Prosperity itself really is on the ballot this year, in a real sense. If we squander the surplus on a tax cut that goes mostly to the very wealthy, then we go back into deficits again and we don't have the resources to invest in our schools and to clean up the environment and improve our health-care system. You know, people say, It's your money. It is. And that's why I don't want to give half of it to the very wealthy. It's your money. It's also your Social Security. It's your environment. It's your public schools. Regis: Mr. Vice President, let me ask you the most difficult question you're going to get all day here in New York City. Gore, anticipating, Yeah. Regis: We have a World Series Gore: Here it comes. Here it comes. Regis: We want to know, Mr. Vice President, who you're rooting for. Gore: I'm for New York City. Regis screeches into a laugh Gore: Who are you for? Regis: Yankees! Gore: Oh, OK. All right. All right. Regis: But that a great -- New York City. Gore: Who are you for when Notre Dame plays Tennessee? Regis: Puh-leaze. Gore: You know who I'm for. Regis: Good luck Gore: Thank you for having me. Applause Regis: We'll be right back
Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore
[Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore] [NEW YORK, NY] Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore appears on the Regis Philbin show. (see dcbw2003K) Gore notes from Dana Hill (not time coded) 10/19/00 Live with Regis New York, NY Taped at ABC Studios in New York on Thursday, Oct. 19. Slide says the name of the show is "Live with Regis." ABC staff said the co-host was Ronda Jamgotchian, a lawyer from Anaheim, Calif., who was on her second day after winning a stint in a "real people" competition that had an online component. Gore wore a dark suit, white shirt without buttons and a powder blue tie with a small, dark pattern. Regis: "So how are you?" Gore: "I'm enjoying it. Great to see all of you here." Applause. Regis: "How do you relax on the campaign trail with all of these hands to shake and -" Gore: "I like to have some time to myself each day. Exercise. Make sure that I get enough sleep. That's-- [Chuckle] That's, that's really they key to it." Regis: "It's really all work now, isn't it. You know, so many questions I want to ask you. But story has it that your roommate at Harvard was -'' Ronda: "Tommy Lee Jones." Regis: "Tommy Lee Jones - I've interviewed before. Very intense guy." Gore: "He is intense." Regis: "Very, very intense guy." Gore: "Yeah." Regis: "Some people would even think, you know, Tommy can be a little scary." [Everyone laughs] Regis: "Your first night at Harvard. It's just you and Tommy in the room there." Gore: "Well, I'll tell you. This is a true story. When I arrived as a freshman, I walked into the room and the lights were off and I thought nobody was there. And I suddenly noticed that in the middle of the room, in a straight-backed chair, motionless, was this guy." [Laughter] Regis: "Oh, no kidding. So what did I tell ya?" Gore: "He was a great actor in college, also." Regis: "Really?" Gore: "And he was a STAR: football player. Did you know that?" Regis: "I didn't know that." Gore: "Absolutely. He was a fantastic football player." Regis: "What was he doing in the darkness, sitting there?" Gore: "He was getting used to the room, I guess. [Laughter] But we became very, very close friends that first year and we've remained close all these years." Regis: "Ah, that's great." Ronda: "We hear that you're a practical joker." Gore: "Yeah, sometimes. I like that." Ronda: "Any, uh, any you can tell us about - maybe on the president or someone else we might know?" Gore: One time, one time when Tipper and I were on our farm in Tennessee, I found a bottle of Nair. [Laughter] I was in the shower and so I used my regular shampoo and lathered my hair all up and then, you know, I wiped it away from eyes and I took the bottle of Nair and I walked out to Tipper and I said, 'What IS this stuff?'" [During the story, Gore made a lathering motion, and gently wiped shampoo from his eyes with both hands, then acted like he was holding up the bottle. Then big laughter.] Regis: Thank God it didn't work, huh? Gore: Yeah. She was already a little freaked about me losing my hair. Ronda: Didn't help matters. Gore: It didn't help, no. Regis: But you grew up in Tennessee. Here's a picture of you and your dad, the famous senator from Tennessee. Gore: I actually grew up in two places. I grew up - see, he worked in Washington, D.C., so I went to school there most of the time. And every summer was in Tennessee. Tennessee always felt like that was home even though I spent more months out of the year in Washington. Regis: But in the summers, you were in Tennessee on the farm. Gore: Right. Regis: Now as I understand it, they tell me that you could in your prime there as a farmboy - Gore: Yeah? Regis: -- hypnotize a chicken. Is that true? Gore: Your research staff has been too thorough. Regis: You can hypnotize a chicken. Gore: I can. I can. It is a little-known farm skill passed down from teenage wizard to teenage wizard. Regis: Would it work on a chicken like me? [Laughter] Gore: Well, you're no SPRING chicken. [Laughter and applause] I think it would. Regis: OK. Gore: I think it would. Regis: Show me. Gore: All right now, the way it works is, you stay right there. [Gore stands up.] Ronda: Should I back away cuz I don't want to - Gore: No - I think you're, I think you're fine. But with chicken, you, you, you draw a circle-- Regis: Bawk, bawk, bawk! Gore: --slowly around their heads [Gore is circling Rege's head with one finger] Gore: until [and now Gore slows his speech down hypnotically] Gore: all of a sudden they sudden they go under. Regis, incredulous, eyes wide open: That's it? Gore: No - no, no, no. It's not working yet. All right, now, Regis Regis; Yes? Gore, slow, rhythmic, hypnotic voice: "Between now and November seventh" [laughter from studio audience] Gore: "you will say good things about the Gore-Lieberman ticket." [Mild laughter] Regis: Gore: All right [Applause from studio audience] Regis: Let me just ask you now - you glad these debates are over? Gore: Well, I wanted more of them but I'm happy with the way they went. I had a good in the debates Regis: It was almost like a different Al Gore every night Gore: Different format. For me, it was kinda like the story of Goldilocks. The first one was too hot, the second too cool. The third one was just right [When Gore says "just right," he makes an OK sign with a thumb and finger in each hand, and drops his voice into a rich tone as if he were plugging Colombian coffee] Ronda: These town-hall-type forums are actually - you're comfortable with Gore: Yeah, I like that and I want to have them on a regular basis as president. And I may use the use same kind of technique that the debate commission used, to use the polling technique to get a real cross-section of each community and then instead of spending time talking with advisers in the nation's capital, go out all the time, on a regular basis at least, to cities all over the country and communities and talk to a cross-section of each community so that challenges that need to be discussed are always aired so that you're really getting it straight from the American people. Regis: Well, I guess you learned a lot during these last three months because you got out there and shook those hands Gore: Yeah. Regis: and listened to those voters. Gore: Yeah. Regis: Now, among other things, you had time to climb Mount Rainier. Gore: "I did, yeah." Regis: With your son? Gore: With my son. It was a wonderful father-son experience. [Regis starts to ask a question starting with "How," but Gore plunges ahead with his story] Gore: Tipper and I have four children. Our youngest is our son. And we went out and climbed that mountain together. We trained together and it was really a hard climb. Regis: Now, I notice everywhere you go, the Secret Service guys are all over. [crosstalk, laughter] Ronda: Did they accompany you to the top of the mountain Regis: To the top? Gore: Some of 'em did. Some of 'em did. Yeah. Ronda: Are you they still speaking to you now? Gore: "Oh, yeah. You know, a few - a couple of years ago, my two oldest daughters and I ran marathon together - the Marine Corps marathon. But the climb up Mount Rainier was significantly hard for me Regis: I'll bet Gore: than a marathon. It-that was REALLY tough. But it was a great - it's a great memory for my son and me to have. Regis: Absolutely. You've got the three girls. Now, would you say you're a strict father as far as dating is concerned. Gore: Oh, I don't know. My oldest daughter compared me to that Robert Deniro character in "Meet the Parents."[laughter] Regis: You give them a good look-over? Gore: Not really, not really. Regis: When they come in. Gore: Well, yeah, I did. They're all - Our daughters are almost grown up now. Regis: But they're very attractive girls, you know. Gore: Thank you. Ronda: In fact, you have a, you have a new grandchild ? is that? A year old? Gore: Yes. ["yes" was enthusiastic, like Yyyes, but not like Marv Albert] Gore: Our grandson is almost a year and a half old ? Wyatt. And did I mention he was born on the fourth of July? [laughter and Oh! From the studio audience] Ronda: No, you didn't! Gore: He has excellent timing. He's really great. He called me on the phone the other day. [Gore pauses] Regis: Did he? What did he say? Gore: Well, I had talked to his mom ? my oldest daughter, Karenna ?- the night before. And early the next morning, I was eatin' breakfast. The phone rang, and I heard a baby's voice. And the closer I listened ? this is a true story ? I listened more closely and I was certain that it was my grandson. And so I said, well, "Wyatt!" And Karenna was in the other room, heard the speakerphone and came in and picked up the phone and said, "Dad?" And I said, "Karenna?" And she said, "Oh, my gosh. Wyatt has called you on the phone." Now, and then she said, I didn't even know that that redial button worked. Now, see, I think that ? I think she was jumping, perhaps, to the wrong conclusion. I think he may have actually wanted to call me." [Laughter and big applause] Regis: He's a genius! We'll be right back with the Vice President Gore. [continuing applause] --- SEGMENT TWO [Applause] Regis: Vice President Al Gore, our guest. A nice cover of you on Rolling Stone this week. Gore: Oh, yes, very -- Regis: That was a nice story, there. And, incidentally, there's something about a good cop, bad cop routine that you've, have done with President Clinton from time to time. Gore: Yeah, well sometimes if, you know, a foreign leader comes in and there's ? you know, the role of vice president is sometimes, means that you have to deliver the hard-edge message. I much prefer, uh, the way ? Regis: Being a good guy? Gore: "Well, yeah, 'course. But when I was in the Congress ? I was in the House of Representatives for eight years and the Senate for eight years before I became vice president ? and there, I was known for working across party lines, working with Republicans. I supported former President Reagan in modernizing our military. I supported former President Bush ? Governor Bush's father ? by being one of the few Democrats to vote for the Persian Gulf War resolution. I like to work across party lines and bring people together. But I've certainly enjoyed the experience being part of the National Security Council the last eight years. And helping to bring some needed changes to the economy." Regis: Has the president given you any advice during this campaign? Gore: Not too much, no. Because it's something that you really have to do on your own. It's a new time, with new challenges. Regis: How is he taking this? Cuz his days, you know, are numbered. And I get the feeling; He don't want to go. Gore: Well, he, you know, he gets up every morning and, and really works hard. There are so many challenges that need to be attended to. You don't have much time to think about those kinds of things ? you're just working. Regis: I'm sure. Ronda: What's the first thing that you plan to do if you're elected president? Gore: To send the campaign finance reform legislation to the Congress?-the McCain-Feingold bill. And the reason is that all the other challenges really are affected by that. I want prescription drug benefits for all seniors under Medicare. But if the big drug companies have the ability to overwhelm popular opinion with campaign contributions and lobbying, then it's hard to get that done. I want to see a patient's bill of rights that take medical decisions away from the HMOs and give 'em back to the doctors. But if the HMOs and insurance companies have the ability to sway Congress against what the American people want, then it's hard to get that done. So that's the first bill I will send. And then my top priority of all is to bring dramatic, major improvements to public schools. I think that's where our future lies. Ronda: And you're against the voucher, voucher ? Gore: I just don't think that it makes sense to drain taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when too many classrooms are overcrowded, when too many teachers can't even have one-one-one time with students because they're operating in a crowd-control fashion with 35, 40 kids in the classroom. We need to modernize the schools, build new schools. I want to recruit 100,000 new teachers, test students, have new accountability. Also test all the new teachers. But instead of stopping there, then I want to make it the top priority for our national government to help local school boards recruit the teachers, treat teachers like professionals, give 'em the training and professional development they need, modernize all the facilities. And I want to give a $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition to all middle-class families so families can afford to send their kids to college. Regis: What about this Social Security? You and Governor Bush talked about it a lot over the last three debates. And he was saying, Look, the federal government is bringing us a 2 percent return on the money we've invested in our future as Social Security. And he ? Gore: That's not right, actually, but ? Regis: It's not right? Gore: No, because Social Security ? when you pay into Social Security, yes, there is a 2 percent addition to the value. But it's actually much more than that. And it seems lower, because money paid in this year goes to pay the benefits for those who are retired this year. Regis: Mmm. Hmm. Gore: That's the way it's always operated. The problem that I have raised with my opponent's plan is that he's promised a trillion dollars to young workers out of the Social Security trust fund, but he's promised the same trillion dollars to keep from cutting any benefits to retirees. And you can't keep both promises. What I propose, instead, is to put Social Security in a lockbox and protect it ? keep it from being used for anything other than Social Security -- and then give a new tax incentive for young families to save. If you make under $60,000 a year, under my plan, and you set aside a thousand dollars in a savings account, the federal government will match that with a thousand dollars. If you make under $30,000, you need only put $500 in a savings account and the federal government will match that it with $1,500. Regis: Where is that money coming from? Gore: That is coming from cuts in other programs. It's coming from the surplus and it's coming from my decision to have a smaller overall tax cut instead of giving $1.6 trillion in a huge tax cut that goes mostly to the wealthy. Under my opponent's plan, almost half of all his tax cut goes to the wealthiest 1 percent. And in order to qualify for the lion's share of it, you'd have to be able to answer all the questions on your other show. Regis, loudly, "And what's wrong with that?" Ronda: "So, for the undecided voters out there, if you had to put in one sentence why people should vote for you, what would that be?" Gore: "To keep prosperity going, and to make sure that everybody participates. I wanna fight for middle-class families. And remember: Prosperity itself really is on the ballot this year, in a real sense. If we squander the surplus on a tax cut that goes mostly to the very wealthy, then we go back into deficits again and we don't have the resources to invest in our schools and to clean up the environment and improve our health-care system. You know, people say, It's your money. It is. And that's why I don't want to give half of it to the very wealthy. It's your money. It's also your Social Security. It's your environment. It's your public schools. Regis: Mr. Vice President, let me ask you the most difficult question you're going to get all day here in New York City. Gore, anticipating, Yeah. Regis: We have a World Series Gore: Here it comes. Here it comes. Regis: We want to know, Mr. Vice President, who you're rooting for. Gore: I'm for New York City. Regis screeches into a laugh Gore: Who are you for? Regis: Yankees! Gore: Oh, OK. All right. All right. Regis: But that a great -- New York City. Gore: Who are you for when Notre Dame plays Tennessee? Regis: Puh-leaze. Gore: You know who I'm for. Regis: Good luck Gore: Thank you for having me. Applause Regis: We'll be right back
Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore
[Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore] [NEW YORK, NY] Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore appears on the Regis Philbin show. (see dcbw2003K) Gore notes from Dana Hill (not time coded) 10/19/00 Live with Regis New York, NY Taped at ABC Studios in New York on Thursday, Oct. 19. Slide says the name of the show is "Live with Regis." ABC staff said the co-host was Ronda Jamgotchian, a lawyer from Anaheim, Calif., who was on her second day after winning a stint in a "real people" competition that had an online component. Gore wore a dark suit, white shirt without buttons and a powder blue tie with a small, dark pattern. Regis: "So how are you?" Gore: "I'm enjoying it. Great to see all of you here." Applause. Regis: "How do you relax on the campaign trail with all of these hands to shake and -" Gore: "I like to have some time to myself each day. Exercise. Make sure that I get enough sleep. That's-- [Chuckle] That's, that's really they key to it." Regis: "It's really all work now, isn't it. You know, so many questions I want to ask you. But story has it that your roommate at Harvard was -'' Ronda: "Tommy Lee Jones." Regis: "Tommy Lee Jones - I've interviewed before. Very intense guy." Gore: "He is intense." Regis: "Very, very intense guy." Gore: "Yeah." Regis: "Some people would even think, you know, Tommy can be a little scary." [Everyone laughs] Regis: "Your first night at Harvard. It's just you and Tommy in the room there." Gore: "Well, I'll tell you. This is a true story. When I arrived as a freshman, I walked into the room and the lights were off and I thought nobody was there. And I suddenly noticed that in the middle of the room, in a straight-backed chair, motionless, was this guy." [Laughter] Regis: "Oh, no kidding. So what did I tell ya?" Gore: "He was a great actor in college, also." Regis: "Really?" Gore: "And he was a STAR: football player. Did you know that?" Regis: "I didn't know that." Gore: "Absolutely. He was a fantastic football player." Regis: "What was he doing in the darkness, sitting there?" Gore: "He was getting used to the room, I guess. [Laughter] But we became very, very close friends that first year and we've remained close all these years." Regis: "Ah, that's great." Ronda: "We hear that you're a practical joker." Gore: "Yeah, sometimes. I like that." Ronda: "Any, uh, any you can tell us about - maybe on the president or someone else we might know?" Gore: One time, one time when Tipper and I were on our farm in Tennessee, I found a bottle of Nair. [Laughter] I was in the shower and so I used my regular shampoo and lathered my hair all up and then, you know, I wiped it away from eyes and I took the bottle of Nair and I walked out to Tipper and I said, 'What IS this stuff?'" [During the story, Gore made a lathering motion, and gently wiped shampoo from his eyes with both hands, then acted like he was holding up the bottle. Then big laughter.] Regis: Thank God it didn't work, huh? Gore: Yeah. She was already a little freaked about me losing my hair. Ronda: Didn't help matters. Gore: It didn't help, no. Regis: But you grew up in Tennessee. Here's a picture of you and your dad, the famous senator from Tennessee. Gore: I actually grew up in two places. I grew up - see, he worked in Washington, D.C., so I went to school there most of the time. And every summer was in Tennessee. Tennessee always felt like that was home even though I spent more months out of the year in Washington. Regis: But in the summers, you were in Tennessee on the farm. Gore: Right. Regis: Now as I understand it, they tell me that you could in your prime there as a farmboy - Gore: Yeah? Regis: -- hypnotize a chicken. Is that true? Gore: Your research staff has been too thorough. Regis: You can hypnotize a chicken. Gore: I can. I can. It is a little-known farm skill passed down from teenage wizard to teenage wizard. Regis: Would it work on a chicken like me? [Laughter] Gore: Well, you're no SPRING chicken. [Laughter and applause] I think it would. Regis: OK. Gore: I think it would. Regis: Show me. Gore: All right now, the way it works is, you stay right there. [Gore stands up.] Ronda: Should I back away cuz I don't want to - Gore: No - I think you're, I think you're fine. But with chicken, you, you, you draw a circle-- Regis: Bawk, bawk, bawk! Gore: --slowly around their heads [Gore is circling Rege's head with one finger] Gore: until [and now Gore slows his speech down hypnotically] Gore: all of a sudden they sudden they go under. Regis, incredulous, eyes wide open: That's it? Gore: No - no, no, no. It's not working yet. All right, now, Regis Regis; Yes? Gore, slow, rhythmic, hypnotic voice: "Between now and November seventh" [laughter from studio audience] Gore: "you will say good things about the Gore-Lieberman ticket." [Mild laughter] Regis: Gore: All right [Applause from studio audience] Regis: Let me just ask you now - you glad these debates are over? Gore: Well, I wanted more of them but I'm happy with the way they went. I had a good in the debates Regis: It was almost like a different Al Gore every night Gore: Different format. For me, it was kinda like the story of Goldilocks. The first one was too hot, the second too cool. The third one was just right [When Gore says "just right," he makes an OK sign with a thumb and finger in each hand, and drops his voice into a rich tone as if he were plugging Colombian coffee] Ronda: These town-hall-type forums are actually - you're comfortable with Gore: Yeah, I like that and I want to have them on a regular basis as president. And I may use the use same kind of technique that the debate commission used, to use the polling technique to get a real cross-section of each community and then instead of spending time talking with advisers in the nation's capital, go out all the time, on a regular basis at least, to cities all over the country and communities and talk to a cross-section of each community so that challenges that need to be discussed are always aired so that you're really getting it straight from the American people. Regis: Well, I guess you learned a lot during these last three months because you got out there and shook those hands Gore: Yeah. Regis: and listened to those voters. Gore: Yeah. Regis: Now, among other things, you had time to climb Mount Rainier. Gore: "I did, yeah." Regis: With your son? Gore: With my son. It was a wonderful father-son experience. [Regis starts to ask a question starting with "How," but Gore plunges ahead with his story] Gore: Tipper and I have four children. Our youngest is our son. And we went out and climbed that mountain together. We trained together and it was really a hard climb. Regis: Now, I notice everywhere you go, the Secret Service guys are all over. [crosstalk, laughter] Ronda: Did they accompany you to the top of the mountain Regis: To the top? Gore: Some of 'em did. Some of 'em did. Yeah. Ronda: Are you they still speaking to you now? Gore: "Oh, yeah. You know, a few - a couple of years ago, my two oldest daughters and I ran marathon together - the Marine Corps marathon. But the climb up Mount Rainier was significantly hard for me Regis: I'll bet Gore: than a marathon. It-that was REALLY tough. But it was a great - it's a great memory for my son and me to have. Regis: Absolutely. You've got the three girls. Now, would you say you're a strict father as far as dating is concerned. Gore: Oh, I don't know. My oldest daughter compared me to that Robert Deniro character in "Meet the Parents."[laughter] Regis: You give them a good look-over? Gore: Not really, not really. Regis: When they come in. Gore: Well, yeah, I did. They're all - Our daughters are almost grown up now. Regis: But they're very attractive girls, you know. Gore: Thank you. Ronda: In fact, you have a, you have a new grandchild ? is that? A year old? Gore: Yes. ["yes" was enthusiastic, like Yyyes, but not like Marv Albert] Gore: Our grandson is almost a year and a half old ? Wyatt. And did I mention he was born on the fourth of July? [laughter and Oh! From the studio audience] Ronda: No, you didn't! Gore: He has excellent timing. He's really great. He called me on the phone the other day. [Gore pauses] Regis: Did he? What did he say? Gore: Well, I had talked to his mom ? my oldest daughter, Karenna ?- the night before. And early the next morning, I was eatin' breakfast. The phone rang, and I heard a baby's voice. And the closer I listened ? this is a true story ? I listened more closely and I was certain that it was my grandson. And so I said, well, "Wyatt!" And Karenna was in the other room, heard the speakerphone and came in and picked up the phone and said, "Dad?" And I said, "Karenna?" And she said, "Oh, my gosh. Wyatt has called you on the phone." Now, and then she said, I didn't even know that that redial button worked. Now, see, I think that ? I think she was jumping, perhaps, to the wrong conclusion. I think he may have actually wanted to call me." [Laughter and big applause] Regis: He's a genius! We'll be right back with the Vice President Gore. [continuing applause] --- SEGMENT TWO [Applause] Regis: Vice President Al Gore, our guest. A nice cover of you on Rolling Stone this week. Gore: Oh, yes, very -- Regis: That was a nice story, there. And, incidentally, there's something about a good cop, bad cop routine that you've, have done with President Clinton from time to time. Gore: Yeah, well sometimes if, you know, a foreign leader comes in and there's ? you know, the role of vice president is sometimes, means that you have to deliver the hard-edge message. I much prefer, uh, the way ? Regis: Being a good guy? Gore: "Well, yeah, 'course. But when I was in the Congress ? I was in the House of Representatives for eight years and the Senate for eight years before I became vice president ? and there, I was known for working across party lines, working with Republicans. I supported former President Reagan in modernizing our military. I supported former President Bush ? Governor Bush's father ? by being one of the few Democrats to vote for the Persian Gulf War resolution. I like to work across party lines and bring people together. But I've certainly enjoyed the experience being part of the National Security Council the last eight years. And helping to bring some needed changes to the economy." Regis: Has the president given you any advice during this campaign? Gore: Not too much, no. Because it's something that you really have to do on your own. It's a new time, with new challenges. Regis: How is he taking this? Cuz his days, you know, are numbered. And I get the feeling; He don't want to go. Gore: Well, he, you know, he gets up every morning and, and really works hard. There are so many challenges that need to be attended to. You don't have much time to think about those kinds of things ? you're just working. Regis: I'm sure. Ronda: What's the first thing that you plan to do if you're elected president? Gore: To send the campaign finance reform legislation to the Congress?-the McCain-Feingold bill. And the reason is that all the other challenges really are affected by that. I want prescription drug benefits for all seniors under Medicare. But if the big drug companies have the ability to overwhelm popular opinion with campaign contributions and lobbying, then it's hard to get that done. I want to see a patient's bill of rights that take medical decisions away from the HMOs and give 'em back to the doctors. But if the HMOs and insurance companies have the ability to sway Congress against what the American people want, then it's hard to get that done. So that's the first bill I will send. And then my top priority of all is to bring dramatic, major improvements to public schools. I think that's where our future lies. Ronda: And you're against the voucher, voucher ? Gore: I just don't think that it makes sense to drain taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when too many classrooms are overcrowded, when too many teachers can't even have one-one-one time with students because they're operating in a crowd-control fashion with 35, 40 kids in the classroom. We need to modernize the schools, build new schools. I want to recruit 100,000 new teachers, test students, have new accountability. Also test all the new teachers. But instead of stopping there, then I want to make it the top priority for our national government to help local school boards recruit the teachers, treat teachers like professionals, give 'em the training and professional development they need, modernize all the facilities. And I want to give a $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition to all middle-class families so families can afford to send their kids to college. Regis: What about this Social Security? You and Governor Bush talked about it a lot over the last three debates. And he was saying, Look, the federal government is bringing us a 2 percent return on the money we've invested in our future as Social Security. And he ? Gore: That's not right, actually, but ? Regis: It's not right? Gore: No, because Social Security ? when you pay into Social Security, yes, there is a 2 percent addition to the value. But it's actually much more than that. And it seems lower, because money paid in this year goes to pay the benefits for those who are retired this year. Regis: Mmm. Hmm. Gore: That's the way it's always operated. The problem that I have raised with my opponent's plan is that he's promised a trillion dollars to young workers out of the Social Security trust fund, but he's promised the same trillion dollars to keep from cutting any benefits to retirees. And you can't keep both promises. What I propose, instead, is to put Social Security in a lockbox and protect it ? keep it from being used for anything other than Social Security -- and then give a new tax incentive for young families to save. If you make under $60,000 a year, under my plan, and you set aside a thousand dollars in a savings account, the federal government will match that with a thousand dollars. If you make under $30,000, you need only put $500 in a savings account and the federal government will match that it with $1,500. Regis: Where is that money coming from? Gore: That is coming from cuts in other programs. It's coming from the surplus and it's coming from my decision to have a smaller overall tax cut instead of giving $1.6 trillion in a huge tax cut that goes mostly to the wealthy. Under my opponent's plan, almost half of all his tax cut goes to the wealthiest 1 percent. And in order to qualify for the lion's share of it, you'd have to be able to answer all the questions on your other show. Regis, loudly, "And what's wrong with that?" Ronda: "So, for the undecided voters out there, if you had to put in one sentence why people should vote for you, what would that be?" Gore: "To keep prosperity going, and to make sure that everybody participates. I wanna fight for middle-class families. And remember: Prosperity itself really is on the ballot this year, in a real sense. If we squander the surplus on a tax cut that goes mostly to the very wealthy, then we go back into deficits again and we don't have the resources to invest in our schools and to clean up the environment and improve our health-care system. You know, people say, It's your money. It is. And that's why I don't want to give half of it to the very wealthy. It's your money. It's also your Social Security. It's your environment. It's your public schools. Regis: Mr. Vice President, let me ask you the most difficult question you're going to get all day here in New York City. Gore, anticipating, Yeah. Regis: We have a World Series Gore: Here it comes. Here it comes. Regis: We want to know, Mr. Vice President, who you're rooting for. Gore: I'm for New York City. Regis screeches into a laugh Gore: Who are you for? Regis: Yankees! Gore: Oh, OK. All right. All right. Regis: But that a great -- New York City. Gore: Who are you for when Notre Dame plays Tennessee? Regis: Puh-leaze. Gore: You know who I'm for. Regis: Good luck Gore: Thank you for having me. Applause Regis: We'll be right back
Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore
[Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore] [NEW YORK, NY] Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore appears on the Regis Philbin show. (see dcbw2003K) Gore notes from Dana Hill (not time coded) 10/19/00 Live with Regis New York, NY Taped at ABC Studios in New York on Thursday, Oct. 19. Slide says the name of the show is "Live with Regis." ABC staff said the co-host was Ronda Jamgotchian, a lawyer from Anaheim, Calif., who was on her second day after winning a stint in a "real people" competition that had an online component. Gore wore a dark suit, white shirt without buttons and a powder blue tie with a small, dark pattern. Regis: "So how are you?" Gore: "I'm enjoying it. Great to see all of you here." Applause. Regis: "How do you relax on the campaign trail with all of these hands to shake and -" Gore: "I like to have some time to myself each day. Exercise. Make sure that I get enough sleep. That's-- [Chuckle] That's, that's really they key to it." Regis: "It's really all work now, isn't it. You know, so many questions I want to ask you. But story has it that your roommate at Harvard was -'' Ronda: "Tommy Lee Jones." Regis: "Tommy Lee Jones - I've interviewed before. Very intense guy." Gore: "He is intense." Regis: "Very, very intense guy." Gore: "Yeah." Regis: "Some people would even think, you know, Tommy can be a little scary." [Everyone laughs] Regis: "Your first night at Harvard. It's just you and Tommy in the room there." Gore: "Well, I'll tell you. This is a true story. When I arrived as a freshman, I walked into the room and the lights were off and I thought nobody was there. And I suddenly noticed that in the middle of the room, in a straight-backed chair, motionless, was this guy." [Laughter] Regis: "Oh, no kidding. So what did I tell ya?" Gore: "He was a great actor in college, also." Regis: "Really?" Gore: "And he was a STAR: football player. Did you know that?" Regis: "I didn't know that." Gore: "Absolutely. He was a fantastic football player." Regis: "What was he doing in the darkness, sitting there?" Gore: "He was getting used to the room, I guess. [Laughter] But we became very, very close friends that first year and we've remained close all these years." Regis: "Ah, that's great." Ronda: "We hear that you're a practical joker." Gore: "Yeah, sometimes. I like that." Ronda: "Any, uh, any you can tell us about - maybe on the president or someone else we might know?" Gore: One time, one time when Tipper and I were on our farm in Tennessee, I found a bottle of Nair. [Laughter] I was in the shower and so I used my regular shampoo and lathered my hair all up and then, you know, I wiped it away from eyes and I took the bottle of Nair and I walked out to Tipper and I said, 'What IS this stuff?'" [During the story, Gore made a lathering motion, and gently wiped shampoo from his eyes with both hands, then acted like he was holding up the bottle. Then big laughter.] Regis: Thank God it didn't work, huh? Gore: Yeah. She was already a little freaked about me losing my hair. Ronda: Didn't help matters. Gore: It didn't help, no. Regis: But you grew up in Tennessee. Here's a picture of you and your dad, the famous senator from Tennessee. Gore: I actually grew up in two places. I grew up - see, he worked in Washington, D.C., so I went to school there most of the time. And every summer was in Tennessee. Tennessee always felt like that was home even though I spent more months out of the year in Washington. Regis: But in the summers, you were in Tennessee on the farm. Gore: Right. Regis: Now as I understand it, they tell me that you could in your prime there as a farmboy - Gore: Yeah? Regis: -- hypnotize a chicken. Is that true? Gore: Your research staff has been too thorough. Regis: You can hypnotize a chicken. Gore: I can. I can. It is a little-known farm skill passed down from teenage wizard to teenage wizard. Regis: Would it work on a chicken like me? [Laughter] Gore: Well, you're no SPRING chicken. [Laughter and applause] I think it would. Regis: OK. Gore: I think it would. Regis: Show me. Gore: All right now, the way it works is, you stay right there. [Gore stands up.] Ronda: Should I back away cuz I don't want to - Gore: No - I think you're, I think you're fine. But with chicken, you, you, you draw a circle-- Regis: Bawk, bawk, bawk! Gore: --slowly around their heads [Gore is circling Rege's head with one finger] Gore: until [and now Gore slows his speech down hypnotically] Gore: all of a sudden they sudden they go under. Regis, incredulous, eyes wide open: That's it? Gore: No - no, no, no. It's not working yet. All right, now, Regis Regis; Yes? Gore, slow, rhythmic, hypnotic voice: "Between now and November seventh" [laughter from studio audience] Gore: "you will say good things about the Gore-Lieberman ticket." [Mild laughter] Regis: Gore: All right [Applause from studio audience] Regis: Let me just ask you now - you glad these debates are over? Gore: Well, I wanted more of them but I'm happy with the way they went. I had a good in the debates Regis: It was almost like a different Al Gore every night Gore: Different format. For me, it was kinda like the story of Goldilocks. The first one was too hot, the second too cool. The third one was just right [When Gore says "just right," he makes an OK sign with a thumb and finger in each hand, and drops his voice into a rich tone as if he were plugging Colombian coffee] Ronda: These town-hall-type forums are actually - you're comfortable with Gore: Yeah, I like that and I want to have them on a regular basis as president. And I may use the use same kind of technique that the debate commission used, to use the polling technique to get a real cross-section of each community and then instead of spending time talking with advisers in the nation's capital, go out all the time, on a regular basis at least, to cities all over the country and communities and talk to a cross-section of each community so that challenges that need to be discussed are always aired so that you're really getting it straight from the American people. Regis: Well, I guess you learned a lot during these last three months because you got out there and shook those hands Gore: Yeah. Regis: and listened to those voters. Gore: Yeah. Regis: Now, among other things, you had time to climb Mount Rainier. Gore: "I did, yeah." Regis: With your son? Gore: With my son. It was a wonderful father-son experience. [Regis starts to ask a question starting with "How," but Gore plunges ahead with his story] Gore: Tipper and I have four children. Our youngest is our son. And we went out and climbed that mountain together. We trained together and it was really a hard climb. Regis: Now, I notice everywhere you go, the Secret Service guys are all over. [crosstalk, laughter] Ronda: Did they accompany you to the top of the mountain Regis: To the top? Gore: Some of 'em did. Some of 'em did. Yeah. Ronda: Are you they still speaking to you now? Gore: "Oh, yeah. You know, a few - a couple of years ago, my two oldest daughters and I ran marathon together - the Marine Corps marathon. But the climb up Mount Rainier was significantly hard for me Regis: I'll bet Gore: than a marathon. It-that was REALLY tough. But it was a great - it's a great memory for my son and me to have. Regis: Absolutely. You've got the three girls. Now, would you say you're a strict father as far as dating is concerned. Gore: Oh, I don't know. My oldest daughter compared me to that Robert Deniro character in "Meet the Parents."[laughter] Regis: You give them a good look-over? Gore: Not really, not really. Regis: When they come in. Gore: Well, yeah, I did. They're all - Our daughters are almost grown up now. Regis: But they're very attractive girls, you know. Gore: Thank you. Ronda: In fact, you have a, you have a new grandchild ? is that? A year old? Gore: Yes. ["yes" was enthusiastic, like Yyyes, but not like Marv Albert] Gore: Our grandson is almost a year and a half old ? Wyatt. And did I mention he was born on the fourth of July? [laughter and Oh! From the studio audience] Ronda: No, you didn't! Gore: He has excellent timing. He's really great. He called me on the phone the other day. [Gore pauses] Regis: Did he? What did he say? Gore: Well, I had talked to his mom ? my oldest daughter, Karenna ?- the night before. And early the next morning, I was eatin' breakfast. The phone rang, and I heard a baby's voice. And the closer I listened ? this is a true story ? I listened more closely and I was certain that it was my grandson. And so I said, well, "Wyatt!" And Karenna was in the other room, heard the speakerphone and came in and picked up the phone and said, "Dad?" And I said, "Karenna?" And she said, "Oh, my gosh. Wyatt has called you on the phone." Now, and then she said, I didn't even know that that redial button worked. Now, see, I think that ? I think she was jumping, perhaps, to the wrong conclusion. I think he may have actually wanted to call me." [Laughter and big applause] Regis: He's a genius! We'll be right back with the Vice President Gore. [continuing applause] --- SEGMENT TWO [Applause] Regis: Vice President Al Gore, our guest. A nice cover of you on Rolling Stone this week. Gore: Oh, yes, very -- Regis: That was a nice story, there. And, incidentally, there's something about a good cop, bad cop routine that you've, have done with President Clinton from time to time. Gore: Yeah, well sometimes if, you know, a foreign leader comes in and there's ? you know, the role of vice president is sometimes, means that you have to deliver the hard-edge message. I much prefer, uh, the way ? Regis: Being a good guy? Gore: "Well, yeah, 'course. But when I was in the Congress ? I was in the House of Representatives for eight years and the Senate for eight years before I became vice president ? and there, I was known for working across party lines, working with Republicans. I supported former President Reagan in modernizing our military. I supported former President Bush ? Governor Bush's father ? by being one of the few Democrats to vote for the Persian Gulf War resolution. I like to work across party lines and bring people together. But I've certainly enjoyed the experience being part of the National Security Council the last eight years. And helping to bring some needed changes to the economy." Regis: Has the president given you any advice during this campaign? Gore: Not too much, no. Because it's something that you really have to do on your own. It's a new time, with new challenges. Regis: How is he taking this? Cuz his days, you know, are numbered. And I get the feeling; He don't want to go. Gore: Well, he, you know, he gets up every morning and, and really works hard. There are so many challenges that need to be attended to. You don't have much time to think about those kinds of things ? you're just working. Regis: I'm sure. Ronda: What's the first thing that you plan to do if you're elected president? Gore: To send the campaign finance reform legislation to the Congress?-the McCain-Feingold bill. And the reason is that all the other challenges really are affected by that. I want prescription drug benefits for all seniors under Medicare. But if the big drug companies have the ability to overwhelm popular opinion with campaign contributions and lobbying, then it's hard to get that done. I want to see a patient's bill of rights that take medical decisions away from the HMOs and give 'em back to the doctors. But if the HMOs and insurance companies have the ability to sway Congress against what the American people want, then it's hard to get that done. So that's the first bill I will send. And then my top priority of all is to bring dramatic, major improvements to public schools. I think that's where our future lies. Ronda: And you're against the voucher, voucher ? Gore: I just don't think that it makes sense to drain taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when too many classrooms are overcrowded, when too many teachers can't even have one-one-one time with students because they're operating in a crowd-control fashion with 35, 40 kids in the classroom. We need to modernize the schools, build new schools. I want to recruit 100,000 new teachers, test students, have new accountability. Also test all the new teachers. But instead of stopping there, then I want to make it the top priority for our national government to help local school boards recruit the teachers, treat teachers like professionals, give 'em the training and professional development they need, modernize all the facilities. And I want to give a $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition to all middle-class families so families can afford to send their kids to college. Regis: What about this Social Security? You and Governor Bush talked about it a lot over the last three debates. And he was saying, Look, the federal government is bringing us a 2 percent return on the money we've invested in our future as Social Security. And he ? Gore: That's not right, actually, but ? Regis: It's not right? Gore: No, because Social Security ? when you pay into Social Security, yes, there is a 2 percent addition to the value. But it's actually much more than that. And it seems lower, because money paid in this year goes to pay the benefits for those who are retired this year. Regis: Mmm. Hmm. Gore: That's the way it's always operated. The problem that I have raised with my opponent's plan is that he's promised a trillion dollars to young workers out of the Social Security trust fund, but he's promised the same trillion dollars to keep from cutting any benefits to retirees. And you can't keep both promises. What I propose, instead, is to put Social Security in a lockbox and protect it ? keep it from being used for anything other than Social Security -- and then give a new tax incentive for young families to save. If you make under $60,000 a year, under my plan, and you set aside a thousand dollars in a savings account, the federal government will match that with a thousand dollars. If you make under $30,000, you need only put $500 in a savings account and the federal government will match that it with $1,500. Regis: Where is that money coming from? Gore: That is coming from cuts in other programs. It's coming from the surplus and it's coming from my decision to have a smaller overall tax cut instead of giving $1.6 trillion in a huge tax cut that goes mostly to the wealthy. Under my opponent's plan, almost half of all his tax cut goes to the wealthiest 1 percent. And in order to qualify for the lion's share of it, you'd have to be able to answer all the questions on your other show. Regis, loudly, "And what's wrong with that?" Ronda: "So, for the undecided voters out there, if you had to put in one sentence why people should vote for you, what would that be?" Gore: "To keep prosperity going, and to make sure that everybody participates. I wanna fight for middle-class families. And remember: Prosperity itself really is on the ballot this year, in a real sense. If we squander the surplus on a tax cut that goes mostly to the very wealthy, then we go back into deficits again and we don't have the resources to invest in our schools and to clean up the environment and improve our health-care system. You know, people say, It's your money. It is. And that's why I don't want to give half of it to the very wealthy. It's your money. It's also your Social Security. It's your environment. It's your public schools. Regis: Mr. Vice President, let me ask you the most difficult question you're going to get all day here in New York City. Gore, anticipating, Yeah. Regis: We have a World Series Gore: Here it comes. Here it comes. Regis: We want to know, Mr. Vice President, who you're rooting for. Gore: I'm for New York City. Regis screeches into a laugh Gore: Who are you for? Regis: Yankees! Gore: Oh, OK. All right. All right. Regis: But that a great -- New York City. Gore: Who are you for when Notre Dame plays Tennessee? Regis: Puh-leaze. Gore: You know who I'm for. Regis: Good luck Gore: Thank you for having me. Applause Regis: We'll be right back
Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore
[Vote 2000: Regis Philbin Show with Al Gore] [NEW YORK, NY] Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore appears on the Regis Philbin show. (see dcbw2003K) Gore notes from Dana Hill (not time coded) 10/19/00 Live with Regis New York, NY Taped at ABC Studios in New York on Thursday, Oct. 19. Slide says the name of the show is "Live with Regis." ABC staff said the co-host was Ronda Jamgotchian, a lawyer from Anaheim, Calif., who was on her second day after winning a stint in a "real people" competition that had an online component. Gore wore a dark suit, white shirt without buttons and a powder blue tie with a small, dark pattern. Regis: "So how are you?" Gore: "I'm enjoying it. Great to see all of you here." Applause. Regis: "How do you relax on the campaign trail with all of these hands to shake and -" Gore: "I like to have some time to myself each day. Exercise. Make sure that I get enough sleep. That's-- [Chuckle] That's, that's really they key to it." Regis: "It's really all work now, isn't it. You know, so many questions I want to ask you. But story has it that your roommate at Harvard was -'' Ronda: "Tommy Lee Jones." Regis: "Tommy Lee Jones - I've interviewed before. Very intense guy." Gore: "He is intense." Regis: "Very, very intense guy." Gore: "Yeah." Regis: "Some people would even think, you know, Tommy can be a little scary." [Everyone laughs] Regis: "Your first night at Harvard. It's just you and Tommy in the room there." Gore: "Well, I'll tell you. This is a true story. When I arrived as a freshman, I walked into the room and the lights were off and I thought nobody was there. And I suddenly noticed that in the middle of the room, in a straight-backed chair, motionless, was this guy." [Laughter] Regis: "Oh, no kidding. So what did I tell ya?" Gore: "He was a great actor in college, also." Regis: "Really?" Gore: "And he was a STAR: football player. Did you know that?" Regis: "I didn't know that." Gore: "Absolutely. He was a fantastic football player." Regis: "What was he doing in the darkness, sitting there?" Gore: "He was getting used to the room, I guess. [Laughter] But we became very, very close friends that first year and we've remained close all these years." Regis: "Ah, that's great." Ronda: "We hear that you're a practical joker." Gore: "Yeah, sometimes. I like that." Ronda: "Any, uh, any you can tell us about - maybe on the president or someone else we might know?" Gore: One time, one time when Tipper and I were on our farm in Tennessee, I found a bottle of Nair. [Laughter] I was in the shower and so I used my regular shampoo and lathered my hair all up and then, you know, I wiped it away from eyes and I took the bottle of Nair and I walked out to Tipper and I said, 'What IS this stuff?'" [During the story, Gore made a lathering motion, and gently wiped shampoo from his eyes with both hands, then acted like he was holding up the bottle. Then big laughter.] Regis: Thank God it didn't work, huh? Gore: Yeah. She was already a little freaked about me losing my hair. Ronda: Didn't help matters. Gore: It didn't help, no. Regis: But you grew up in Tennessee. Here's a picture of you and your dad, the famous senator from Tennessee. Gore: I actually grew up in two places. I grew up - see, he worked in Washington, D.C., so I went to school there most of the time. And every summer was in Tennessee. Tennessee always felt like that was home even though I spent more months out of the year in Washington. Regis: But in the summers, you were in Tennessee on the farm. Gore: Right. Regis: Now as I understand it, they tell me that you could in your prime there as a farmboy - Gore: Yeah? Regis: -- hypnotize a chicken. Is that true? Gore: Your research staff has been too thorough. Regis: You can hypnotize a chicken. Gore: I can. I can. It is a little-known farm skill passed down from teenage wizard to teenage wizard. Regis: Would it work on a chicken like me? [Laughter] Gore: Well, you're no SPRING chicken. [Laughter and applause] I think it would. Regis: OK. Gore: I think it would. Regis: Show me. Gore: All right now, the way it works is, you stay right there. [Gore stands up.] Ronda: Should I back away cuz I don't want to - Gore: No - I think you're, I think you're fine. But with chicken, you, you, you draw a circle-- Regis: Bawk, bawk, bawk! Gore: --slowly around their heads [Gore is circling Rege's head with one finger] Gore: until [and now Gore slows his speech down hypnotically] Gore: all of a sudden they sudden they go under. Regis, incredulous, eyes wide open: That's it? Gore: No - no, no, no. It's not working yet. All right, now, Regis Regis; Yes? Gore, slow, rhythmic, hypnotic voice: "Between now and November seventh" [laughter from studio audience] Gore: "you will say good things about the Gore-Lieberman ticket." [Mild laughter] Regis: Gore: All right [Applause from studio audience] Regis: Let me just ask you now - you glad these debates are over? Gore: Well, I wanted more of them but I'm happy with the way they went. I had a good in the debates Regis: It was almost like a different Al Gore every night Gore: Different format. For me, it was kinda like the story of Goldilocks. The first one was too hot, the second too cool. The third one was just right [When Gore says "just right," he makes an OK sign with a thumb and finger in each hand, and drops his voice into a rich tone as if he were plugging Colombian coffee] Ronda: These town-hall-type forums are actually - you're comfortable with Gore: Yeah, I like that and I want to have them on a regular basis as president. And I may use the use same kind of technique that the debate commission used, to use the polling technique to get a real cross-section of each community and then instead of spending time talking with advisers in the nation's capital, go out all the time, on a regular basis at least, to cities all over the country and communities and talk to a cross-section of each community so that challenges that need to be discussed are always aired so that you're really getting it straight from the American people. Regis: Well, I guess you learned a lot during these last three months because you got out there and shook those hands Gore: Yeah. Regis: and listened to those voters. Gore: Yeah. Regis: Now, among other things, you had time to climb Mount Rainier. Gore: "I did, yeah." Regis: With your son? Gore: With my son. It was a wonderful father-son experience. [Regis starts to ask a question starting with "How," but Gore plunges ahead with his story] Gore: Tipper and I have four children. Our youngest is our son. And we went out and climbed that mountain together. We trained together and it was really a hard climb. Regis: Now, I notice everywhere you go, the Secret Service guys are all over. [crosstalk, laughter] Ronda: Did they accompany you to the top of the mountain Regis: To the top? Gore: Some of 'em did. Some of 'em did. Yeah. Ronda: Are you they still speaking to you now? Gore: "Oh, yeah. You know, a few - a couple of years ago, my two oldest daughters and I ran marathon together - the Marine Corps marathon. But the climb up Mount Rainier was significantly hard for me Regis: I'll bet Gore: than a marathon. It-that was REALLY tough. But it was a great - it's a great memory for my son and me to have. Regis: Absolutely. You've got the three girls. Now, would you say you're a strict father as far as dating is concerned. Gore: Oh, I don't know. My oldest daughter compared me to that Robert Deniro character in "Meet the Parents."[laughter] Regis: You give them a good look-over? Gore: Not really, not really. Regis: When they come in. Gore: Well, yeah, I did. They're all - Our daughters are almost grown up now. Regis: But they're very attractive girls, you know. Gore: Thank you. Ronda: In fact, you have a, you have a new grandchild ? is that? A year old? Gore: Yes. ["yes" was enthusiastic, like Yyyes, but not like Marv Albert] Gore: Our grandson is almost a year and a half old ? Wyatt. And did I mention he was born on the fourth of July? [laughter and Oh! From the studio audience] Ronda: No, you didn't! Gore: He has excellent timing. He's really great. He called me on the phone the other day. [Gore pauses] Regis: Did he? What did he say? Gore: Well, I had talked to his mom ? my oldest daughter, Karenna ?- the night before. And early the next morning, I was eatin' breakfast. The phone rang, and I heard a baby's voice. And the closer I listened ? this is a true story ? I listened more closely and I was certain that it was my grandson. And so I said, well, "Wyatt!" And Karenna was in the other room, heard the speakerphone and came in and picked up the phone and said, "Dad?" And I said, "Karenna?" And she said, "Oh, my gosh. Wyatt has called you on the phone." Now, and then she said, I didn't even know that that redial button worked. Now, see, I think that ? I think she was jumping, perhaps, to the wrong conclusion. I think he may have actually wanted to call me." [Laughter and big applause] Regis: He's a genius! We'll be right back with the Vice President Gore. [continuing applause] --- SEGMENT TWO [Applause] Regis: Vice President Al Gore, our guest. A nice cover of you on Rolling Stone this week. Gore: Oh, yes, very -- Regis: That was a nice story, there. And, incidentally, there's something about a good cop, bad cop routine that you've, have done with President Clinton from time to time. Gore: Yeah, well sometimes if, you know, a foreign leader comes in and there's ? you know, the role of vice president is sometimes, means that you have to deliver the hard-edge message. I much prefer, uh, the way ? Regis: Being a good guy? Gore: "Well, yeah, 'course. But when I was in the Congress ? I was in the House of Representatives for eight years and the Senate for eight years before I became vice president ? and there, I was known for working across party lines, working with Republicans. I supported former President Reagan in modernizing our military. I supported former President Bush ? Governor Bush's father ? by being one of the few Democrats to vote for the Persian Gulf War resolution. I like to work across party lines and bring people together. But I've certainly enjoyed the experience being part of the National Security Council the last eight years. And helping to bring some needed changes to the economy." Regis: Has the president given you any advice during this campaign? Gore: Not too much, no. Because it's something that you really have to do on your own. It's a new time, with new challenges. Regis: How is he taking this? Cuz his days, you know, are numbered. And I get the feeling; He don't want to go. Gore: Well, he, you know, he gets up every morning and, and really works hard. There are so many challenges that need to be attended to. You don't have much time to think about those kinds of things ? you're just working. Regis: I'm sure. Ronda: What's the first thing that you plan to do if you're elected president? Gore: To send the campaign finance reform legislation to the Congress?-the McCain-Feingold bill. And the reason is that all the other challenges really are affected by that. I want prescription drug benefits for all seniors under Medicare. But if the big drug companies have the ability to overwhelm popular opinion with campaign contributions and lobbying, then it's hard to get that done. I want to see a patient's bill of rights that take medical decisions away from the HMOs and give 'em back to the doctors. But if the HMOs and insurance companies have the ability to sway Congress against what the American people want, then it's hard to get that done. So that's the first bill I will send. And then my top priority of all is to bring dramatic, major improvements to public schools. I think that's where our future lies. Ronda: And you're against the voucher, voucher ? Gore: I just don't think that it makes sense to drain taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when too many classrooms are overcrowded, when too many teachers can't even have one-one-one time with students because they're operating in a crowd-control fashion with 35, 40 kids in the classroom. We need to modernize the schools, build new schools. I want to recruit 100,000 new teachers, test students, have new accountability. Also test all the new teachers. But instead of stopping there, then I want to make it the top priority for our national government to help local school boards recruit the teachers, treat teachers like professionals, give 'em the training and professional development they need, modernize all the facilities. And I want to give a $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition to all middle-class families so families can afford to send their kids to college. Regis: What about this Social Security? You and Governor Bush talked about it a lot over the last three debates. And he was saying, Look, the federal government is bringing us a 2 percent return on the money we've invested in our future as Social Security. And he ? Gore: That's not right, actually, but ? Regis: It's not right? Gore: No, because Social Security ? when you pay into Social Security, yes, there is a 2 percent addition to the value. But it's actually much more than that. And it seems lower, because money paid in this year goes to pay the benefits for those who are retired this year. Regis: Mmm. Hmm. Gore: That's the way it's always operated. The problem that I have raised with my opponent's plan is that he's promised a trillion dollars to young workers out of the Social Security trust fund, but he's promised the same trillion dollars to keep from cutting any benefits to retirees. And you can't keep both promises. What I propose, instead, is to put Social Security in a lockbox and protect it ? keep it from being used for anything other than Social Security -- and then give a new tax incentive for young families to save. If you make under $60,000 a year, under my plan, and you set aside a thousand dollars in a savings account, the federal government will match that with a thousand dollars. If you make under $30,000, you need only put $500 in a savings account and the federal government will match that it with $1,500. Regis: Where is that money coming from? Gore: That is coming from cuts in other programs. It's coming from the surplus and it's coming from my decision to have a smaller overall tax cut instead of giving $1.6 trillion in a huge tax cut that goes mostly to the wealthy. Under my opponent's plan, almost half of all his tax cut goes to the wealthiest 1 percent. And in order to qualify for the lion's share of it, you'd have to be able to answer all the questions on your other show. Regis, loudly, "And what's wrong with that?" Ronda: "So, for the undecided voters out there, if you had to put in one sentence why people should vote for you, what would that be?" Gore: "To keep prosperity going, and to make sure that everybody participates. I wanna fight for middle-class families. And remember: Prosperity itself really is on the ballot this year, in a real sense. If we squander the surplus on a tax cut that goes mostly to the very wealthy, then we go back into deficits again and we don't have the resources to invest in our schools and to clean up the environment and improve our health-care system. You know, people say, It's your money. It is. And that's why I don't want to give half of it to the very wealthy. It's your money. It's also your Social Security. It's your environment. It's your public schools. Regis: Mr. Vice President, let me ask you the most difficult question you're going to get all day here in New York City. Gore, anticipating, Yeah. Regis: We have a World Series Gore: Here it comes. Here it comes. Regis: We want to know, Mr. Vice President, who you're rooting for. Gore: I'm for New York City. Regis screeches into a laugh Gore: Who are you for? Regis: Yankees! Gore: Oh, OK. All right. All right. Regis: But that a great -- New York City. Gore: Who are you for when Notre Dame plays Tennessee? Regis: Puh-leaze. Gore: You know who I'm for. Regis: Good luck Gore: Thank you for having me. Applause Regis: We'll be right back