POP MUSIC
Lou Reed 38:53
Someone I did this in Seattle at the bumper shoot festival and afterwards this kid came up to me said wow I love the raven and I don't remember liking it in high school. But I didn't know he said dickless liar
Pete Fornatale 39:11
tell him to very carefully read the credits in the in the CD booklet.
Lou Reed 39:16
Well what's interesting is you can like line it up you know stanza by stanza because psychologically it's it's matched the rhythms really exact. Because an obsessive was doing it. So yes, of writing about an obsessive it's perfect, isn't it? Sure it is. That's where being that way it works to your advantage. Big advantage.
Pete Fornatale 39:40
So you will take it out on the road. O
Lou Reed 39:43
Oh, yeah, sure. We're going out in May to Europe.
Pete Fornatale 39:48
Are you still a road warrior? Does it still appeal to you or is it drudgery that you have to
Lou Reed 39:52
the Traveling is a drag. You know, especially now that you're looking at you know, your fellow passengers wondering something They're set their shoes on fire, you know? Yeah. You can't sit and relax and watch a movie now because i Hey, what the fuck are you doing? Hey, put that plastic fork down.
Pete Fornatale 40:13
You talking to me?
Lou Reed 40:14
You know you just eat your food. What do you mean you talking me? What do you mean? eat my food? Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck am I? You talk it's the perfect scene for stewardess lot the cockpit door. Get somebody out here who's big? What's that guy doing stewardess? Look at that guy. Isn't he kind of weird looking over there? No, that one not that one that one. Jesus Christ
Pete Fornatale 40:45
You will for sure be pulled out a line and and checked out at an airport. No question about it.
Lou Reed 40:52
Lately for whatever reason I have not been pulled out
Pete Fornatale 40:55
They are leaving you alone. That Glad to hear it.
Lou Reed 40:58
old ladyies. They are pulling people out a line. That wouldn't hurt a fly. We are in our democracy so idiotic. I mean, like to prove that way even handed right? That pulling out like an 87 year old woman was like this. Right? Okay, man, take your shoes off. And bend over now. Some of these some of these people doing the searches.
Pete Fornatale 41:24
Enjoying it a little too much?
Lou Reed 41:25
I think so. Got a patch it down. That's hung, aren't you? Hey, can I do a search back there?
Pete Fornatale 41:35
That's always a danger, I suppose.
Lou Reed 41:40
You turn it off for a minute. What do you got under there? Now one of the things I love I'm in love America. I love Americans. Really? You know, going through security and I'm being frisked by a Sikh. Love it. Love it. What other country does things like this?
Pete Fornatale 42:02
Not a one. Not a one. You could live anywhere in the world, Lou, I suppose?
Lou Reed 42:09
Well, I'm not great with languages. Okay. I know New York. I really love New York.
Pete Fornatale 42:15
That's what I want to hear about why? Oh, everything's here.
Lou Reed 42:21
Everything's here. I mean, you know, new movie comes out. Where is it? It's here. New book comes out about where is it? It's here. The Japanese send over some great drum true for some great dancing, whereas it's here. Culturally. Can't beat New York. There's so many including, okay. The play version of this played were Brooklyn Academy music, the only place in the United States. So,
Pete Fornatale 42:50
yeah, that tells you something, you know? Yeah.
Lou Reed 42:53
Great actors, great musicians, great venues, great theaters. There's everything.
Pete Fornatale 43:01
There's a downside.
Lou Reed 43:02
And Plus you know, the people in New York are the best
Pete Fornatale 43:08
in terms of their treatment of you or one another or
Lou Reed 43:11
One another. Yeah. Yeah. If you get in trouble New York people not only will help you, but they'll know what to do. They won't just stand there.
Pete Fornatale 43:24
I was just trying to figure out a way to
Lou Reed 43:26
I don't know what to do. He was run over by a week thresher there was four fingers over there. What do you what do you do call Mr. Science? Why don't you do that? What does it say on the internet man? Hey, they chopped formaldehyde. Cool. Okay, that's the answer. Here you go get him to St Vincent's soaking in formaldehyde. So what up right now with the staple gun. See a
Pete Fornatale 43:54
computer internet websites? How has that affected your life your art.
Lou Reed 44:01
I always love the computer because I can't read my own handwriting. So what a great thing and then being able to do a bunch of versions of things have the spelling corrected. So you don't look like an idiot. Right off the bat that was great for somebody like me, that's mainly what I use it for. But then the internet and access to all the different information. That's fantastic. Yeah. And as far as downloading songs, there ought to be a way to use that as just a really great tool to get people to listen to other kinds of music or something because you can't stop it right? And it used to be you know, when they had tape cassettes, I said, Oh, they're going to take music off the radio. No one will ever buy a record again. That didn't happen. Right? Videotape now. Blah, blah blah and and went on and on now now the download a thing that really is something though because they can download the whole thing. In pristine one, pristine is the word somebody buys one copy of your album and 8 million people can have it if they want. So there's got to be some reason for them to buy it. So I think you have to give them a tracker. I don't know, I don't know how to handle it. I don't know how to handle it. It's the record companies have been ripping them off so badly. Like because why go out and buy something when it comes to this plastic shit. You know, you open those cases and they break in your hand. It makes you mad.